#[26/2/11] What's the most complicated Stand?
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D4C
oh wait
epitaph is also a song wtf
Yea
and i dont remember that from the show my memory is betraying me
oh that mf
ššš
sorry i just couldnt get myself to start again
Alright bye I gotta see if Sop is back
the stand if infinite coffee
what is it called
It reverts any action into zero.
Therefore after Diavolo was supposed to die the action of him dying was reverted to zero over and over making it a dead loop
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It's basically a computer program loading up to 100% but it's always stuck at 99%
Exactly. (Great analogy btw)
King Crimson
I honestly felt like king crimson was really easy to understand
idk maybe im js tappened in
It's been explained a billion times
You're not alone on that front
It's quite easy to understand what it actually does
Yeah
I'd say whitesnake was more confusing due to the sheer volume of abilities it has
I was gonna say whitesnake but i realized that its actually not as complicated
lowkey
Like as i see it out to be its not
think again
I think the abilities themselves are alot and definitely powerful but once you understand you understand 
idk maybe thats just me
ngl Jumpin Jack Flash had me so confused
can rip out stands and memories and also random features of people like eyesight?? This is never elaborated on again
is made up of a goo that can literally melt people alive and it also can randomly melt down
can apperantly disguise as other people and influence dreams???? This is never touched upon again
also can influence people psychically by jamming it's hand into them??? Again never elaborated on again
probably because its a more realistically based stand but also because the arc was so boring and i hated it
It has SO MANY DAMN ABILITIES WHAT CAN'T IT DO
i think the memory thing because he can take peoples memories and souls because theyāre separate, he put them into jolyne and jotaro in the manhattan transfer fight
i think
thats what i had assumed anyway
That's easily understandable I meant the ripping out eyesight part
It rips out Pucci's eyesight and extracts it into a disc in the second Weather vs Pucci fight so Pucci can't be affected by Heavy Weather
I think he put a blind mans disk in his head
Maybe ifk
I might be a liar tho
Idk i pulled that out of my ass but he dxplained how he made himself blind for the fight
No he explicitly says he ripped out his eyesight so he can't see, and his blindness makes him fall for the blood spikes Weather does a bit later
that fight was so chaptic
Oh
okay so im just slow
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also what you said achieves the same point because he randomly takes a blind guy's eyesight
yeah š„¹š„¹
ok ok
Im just saying stuff just to say something atp
What I'm saying is, whitesnake=busted ass stand with a lot of abilities and stuff it can do on a whim
Also it's one of the few stands who can solo Ultimate Kars by ripping out his soul
presuming he can get close enough
I agree
definitely but some powerwiki bottom feeding sock drawer beard necks are gonna be like
āLight novel kars hehā
ok are we even talking about light novel kars
not even canon š„
No, regular Ultimate Kars from part 2
NO THATS RETORICAL
i know
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he lowkey my favorite villain though so I'm fine with using the light novel to glaze him
Ok honestly
I really liked kars
But like
not really
I was so frustrated watching part two because i was so sad over wammu or wamuu or whayevr
i loved him so mcuh i was heartbroken
wamuu is cool too
kars is absolutely amazing and a very cool villain but definitely not in MY top three
Actually im a liar
He is 3
I like him actually being wanting to avenge Esidisi and Wamuu
RIGHT
he's so cool....
wait guys lets go to #battle-tendency so we dont get shanked
king crimson i think
Itās gotta be chariot requiem cuz nobody has any idea why it does anything we just know to break the sun behind our heads
@real egret, your Stand Rank is now 8!
the weird one (i ofrgot its nme)
King Crimson.
Open smth = it spawns
Me
@wraith citrus, your Stand Rank is now 3!
Emperor
D4C
I agree with this one
letās not forget chariot requiem switched everyoneās souls and then proceeded to mutate them too
Like what?
And also where was chariot requiem even going?
Heās just aura farming I guess
GER or SCR
all of themš
Itās okay.
Araki is just really good at making an interesting manga
If you genuinely wanna know what a stand does just ask someone
This server is full of jojo fans obviously
ohio impressed
NOT king crimson, i donāt understand how it would be confusing to understand
Someone was paying attention
The boom boom family stand I never understood it is it like Mariahās stand?
Yk I honestly forgot about that arc in steel ball run
Boom boom family just pissed me off lowkey
Like why are they called boom boom
Or was it just boom
Ye
Also I donāt understand this
Who is Gojo?
Exactly 
scary pride flag
You look at it
Turn into snail
Exactly
Goofiest stand gotta be when the whole part 9 gang almost got soloed by a group of cats
Heavenās door just because araki wanted his self insert to be have the best power
Fr, he erases time
Not allat complicated
Ngl, if I remember correctly it was that old chinese man's stand, it kinda like a compass but not. (It's in part 6 before the birth of green baby, I believe...)
Dragons dream?
I think thatās what it was called
I couldn't remember what was the stand's name but it might be since it looks like a dragon
the correct answer is king crimson
Kind of simple in retrospect
King crimson not complicated at all
He skips ahead in time, the events that take place in that skip still happen though and only Diavolo has knowledge of what happened
Basically, he erases the time it takes to do something, but that thing still happens
My personal theory is that mutation was a last ditch attempt to bring polnareffās body back to life or to uncripple it so that he could fight with chariot requiem
Ger is a bit confusing
Real
Top 3 jjba stands making no sense
1king crimson
2star platinum (i still feel like the power gotta be adaptation)
3that fuckin dragon in pt6
Kc and Tattoo You!
Dragon's wish aint too hard, just show your or the enemy weak spots in a period of time
King crimson is not confusing AT ALL
Itās so simple
All it does is erase the time that it takes to carry out an action, but the action still happens
d4c
When Funny Valentine is in between two things (like in between a door and a wall) he can travel to another universe, and can take himself from that universe and give them D4C
D4C allows funny valentine to exist in an alternate universe while being near his alternate self, but if he takes someone elseās alternate self then they will merge together if they get too close and die
including love train
Dragons dream fr fr
also what about cloning
Love train is an ability that redirects misfortune (like bullets) to other parts of the world
Itās granted from the corpse
Itās the alternate universe thing
He can bring himself from other dimensions into the main dimension
Giving the effect of cloning
anyone who says king crimson just ain't paying attention
its obviously diver down or burning down the house
for anime only
Dragonās dream is a stand that gives directions to the most fortunate spot one can be in, so they have the best luck.
Itās works as a neutral stand and helps out enemies of the user too
Fr
that one
Bro wth is this a question everyone knows it's King Crimson
"Diavolo can't touch things during Time Skip"
Proceeds to show Diavolo killing Narancia and throwing his Blood in Giorno Giovanna
I love this stand but bro, Araki forgot EVERYTHING about the stand when he killed Narancia
Narancia underwent his fated events which is getting killed by Diavolo
that's the reason
wait when is this stated
He cannot directly interfere with things with his hands but he can blind people with his blood
what the person you're replying to doesn't understand is that Diavolo was fated to kill Narancia thus he dies
So, the future made the barriers break?
?
That's why I'm asking them when it's stated in canon that Diavolo can't touch things during time skip; I want to know if they have the reference
@cursive solstice
Baby head or how ever you spell it
That's why I'm asking how the barriers broke down
Tusk
Golden rectangle
Remember when Diavolo "Killed" Bucciarati, exactly why did he just kill him after Time Skip, and not during the time skip
...? So, it's not stated in canon, then?
š I'm confused, I just want to know if this is fact or opinion/guess based on the story
What barriers dude
Kc Isnāt that hard to understand it just erases the perception of time to ppl and what they are going to do in 10 canāt change but kc can move and change what his does
@echo lichen, your Stand Rank is now 2!
because the 10 seconds during the time skip are erased?
So he died after the erasure
Hmm, I guess I just misunderstood the situation then.....
He canāt touch ppl in time skip
white snake
sentient cd holder
that one guy in part 7 that passes sins or regrets
Acca Howlerās š
Ws can take stands from ppl in form of disc or can take different things like eyesight or use of arms but disc is smaller and can make white cm to make ppl have schizophrenia and ppl can put disc in their self and use whatever is in it
U taking about civil War?
yea
D4C in who shot johnny joestar still has me confused
Same
King crimson
idk
me jk idk
@wide token, your Stand Rank is now 1!
oh okk
king crimson
Cwimson
the logic of "so it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"
by that logic a handful of other stands would be able to use time stop too
One of the twink ones
it took me a while to figure out how King Crimson works
crimson
King Crimson
If someone else says king crimson
Chariot Requiem for me
Oml king crimson is simple
The sunšāļøš„šŖ«š
Actually wait true
King Crimson is simple
I need to get out of this herd mentality
Well the guy before me said if anyone else said King Crimson my balls would get chopped off

Oh
Thatās my second answer
Magicianās red
Finally weāre breaking away from the herd
Maybe survivor actually
@restive pilot, your Stand Rank is now 6!
He can create and manipulate fire at will
Like how does it just make people mad
When the user is angry, it makes everyone but the user want to kill someone really badly
Water I think
Like how on earth does it control their minds
It doesnāt, it just activates a primal instinct that makes them want to kill
Is that in like your left pinky or something
Itās in your brain
Because Iām pretty sure instincts are in the brain
And what if no one is around the person who wants to kill?
Then nothing happens probably
Would the person try to tear themself apart?
I donāt think so, but they might go looking for people
Well it would accomplish the goal of killing something
Yup
If they were in like a metal box
That stand would be very overpowered in a room where ||Toru|| is
Not exactly but the boosted endurance would help
Because ||the calamity would still affect them||
If itās one person and ||Toru|| in a room theyāll want to kill him
Yes
Iām probably explaining it horribly ngl, so hereās the wiki explanation
https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Survivor
So it would be op in that instance as long as the stand user doesnāt try to kill him
Sometimes, yes
Idek what Iām talking about at this point, so donāt take it from me
i think that's little feet
also survivor is gotta be the only instance where a hamon user could win in a 1v1
That would be left pinky toe
no like the stand bro
Fr lol
part 5
I lowkey forgot who little feet was
the guy that narancia fought at the start when we first saw aerosmith
Oh shit
Ooh yeah
Iām lowk stupid
baby face š
That was baby face Iām pretty sure
They both smallš
True
I just forgot which is which
dragons dream and d4c in the who killed johnny arc
the baby with the cubes?
oh yea, feung shi? was pretty confusing ngl
Fr
i deadass still dont know what dragons dream does
Ye, I now remember that thatās baby face and not little feet
Like, the dragon thing from part 6?
yea
like ancient chinese directional fighting luck
I think it tells you where your luck is best
and the dragon teleports you
coolio, thx
Its neutral tho, so it ends up helping his enemies
yea i remember that
Honestly, silver chariot requiem is probably the most mysterious stand, but d4c was the most confusing before the clarifications and during the who shot Johnny arc
D4C
I was joking lol
Oh, mb
Your mom
Your mom
ā¢If we're talking about misunderstood then probably talking head
Noone seems to actually understand their power
They can have Narancia say the opposite of what they're trying to convey no matter what he says. Can't say the reverse definition since it'll still make it the opposite of their intended statement.
ā¢If we're talking about Semantics then probably Diavolo as while their ability is very simple, because of how badly it's used by Diavolo and how badly it's implemented into the story it's constantly debated what its actual capabilities are
ā¢If were talking about what it actually does, probably GER as we got no explanation beyond "It can revert things to zero nullifying it" and all we can do is make assumptions past that
Notice how it's all part 5
Dragons Dream probably kind of
or just any other stand that araki felt he needed to straight up explain the concept behind it
D4c power up
@orchid geyser, your Stand Rank is now 1!
that's a W
Ger I think
echoes
all the 3 acts confuse the shit out of me
@jovial stream and next might be ger
king crimson
ngl i dont understand golden experience requiem
real
I think wonder of U is pretty complicated
Gold experience requiem is an amplified version of gold experienceās powers, but it can also return something to the position it once was.
It infinitely reset Diavolo and led to him receiving infinite death
prolly WOU or like Feng shui thingy
I think both of them are kinda simple
yk uh opinions ykyk
Wonder of U controls a force called calamity
The calamity controls objects and send them to the direction of anyone pursuing the stand or itās user.
The closer you get to WOU the more fatal itās attacks are
Itās essentially just maxed out bad luck
Dragonās dream is a stand that gives directions to the most fortunate or unfortunate spots one can be in, so they have knowledge of their luck.
Itās works as a neutral stand and helps out enemies of the user too
Do we wanna be normal and say Dragons Dream
Or do we wanna be pretentious and say Arrow Cross House
Jorge Joestar?
ion get it bro like how would it work against anybody other than diavolo
Tattoo You (Eleven men) I'm left scratching my head wondering how it even works
King crimson
Pucci's stands
d4c is pretty complicated
I'm not even gonna bring up the bullshit that is jorge joestar
I also honestly can't put my finger on wtf speed king even does
they can pass through each other's bodies and like, hide inside of one another but that's all i really gathered
It makes things hot
ok well, yeah
it just does it in a certain way
I know it can store heat and apply it to a surface
or even through a surface but
its explained so weirdly
or maybe it was just the translation I was reading whatever I'll look it up later
Donāt overthink it, it just makes things hot
If you are about to do something, you can skip the time that it takes to do the thing, but the thing still happens
So if I were to open a door, I can skip to the point where the door is already open, but I would still have my perception of time while itās being skipped. Other people would feel the skip
How is it complicated??? It just makes people ragebaited
Fr
The world
who the blin would use their stand to do just that
You donāt skip the time you just still have your perception of time for 10 seconds so itās not gonna make it any faster for you to āskipā time
hey ya
its so simple that its complicated
Im used to complicated shenanigans in jjba
Speed king can make something hotter within 10 cm being control fast they start to burn up so all you need to touch that thing and theyāll burn alive how fast you want and as long as you touch them they will even if youāre more than 10cm away
how is the greatest wingman of all time that complicated
Itās an example
Did I fix it?
Ye so if kc does time skip ppl live through the 10 seconds but canāt remember anything from the 10 seconds and what theyāre gonna do in the next 10 seconds canāt be changed but for kc he keeps his perception of time so if he looks 10 seconds into the future with his sub ability, and he sees he gets slapped in the next 10 seconds.Kc will āskip timeā and move out the way and (side note he canāt touch anything within the time skip and same goes for you and what I mean by this the person thatās time skip is used on. Itās like a. hologram so he could just put your hand right through you and when the 10 seconds are done, you will be dead
@echo lichen, your Stand Rank is now 3!
ouhh okay
Me but with D4C
Soft and wet :go beyond
D4C
King crimson