#What would have happened to someone else's Stand if he had followed the plan to ascend to heaven?

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full ether
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If DIO had followed the plan, would The World have evolved similarly to how White Snake became C-Moon?

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other question is Why didn't Pucci get a "White Snake Over Heaven" instead of Made in Heaven like dio?

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To extend and better explain the point, I mean that C-Moon can be seen as the fusion of the green baby with White Snake, but the same would happen with any stand that is following the steps until ascending to heaven. Following the same question, why did Dio get his promoted stand (The World Over Heaven) instead of Made in heaven like pucci?

noble gale
noble gale
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the original heaven plan was to bring everyone awareness of their future and grant peace of mind, the world over heaven is some completely other bullshit

full ether
sacred flaxBOT
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@full ether, your Stand Rank is now 1!

full ether
noble gale
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the plan in eoh is different, the end goal for the heaven plan is granting everyone future sight, not giving dio alone reality bending powers

full ether
noble gale
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they both share the "heaven plan" name but if eoh dio truly achieved the heaven he desired in part 6, he would've went from c-moon to made in heaven

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the world over heaven is just random fanservice fuckery that has nothing to do with the original plan

full ether
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So in a part 3 au, the final position you will have is MIH. TWOH is just fan service with another conception of the plan to heaven

noble gale
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yep

full ether
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Okk

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@noble gale i have seen that u answer all the question about jojo i awnt to ask you more things i have to create other post or can i ask here?

noble gale
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you can ask here

full ether
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What exactly does awake a requiem stand? I mean that I have seen theories in which they say that the Requiem Stands represent 2 things: 1st the opposite function of the Stand in the first instance: GER focusing on destruction and leaving aside the creation of life as Jonathan represents by obtaining the hamon and SCR that It becomes an entirely defensive Stand that does not allow its user to approach it, becoming slow and clumsy. 2nd, whatever the bearer wanted at that moment, but it seems too convenient and broken to me, and at the same time it makes me limp a little since what Polnareff did in the first instance when touching the arrow was to take care of it, but without fear of it, he gets scared of it. his potential by seeing what he is capable of. What is your opinion?

noble gale
# full ether What exactly does awake a requiem stand? I mean that I have seen theories in whi...

a requiem stand's ability is primarily dominion over souls, but how its ability and the stand functions is acted out based on the user's wishes
polnareff wanted to keep the arrow safe and away from diavolo, so requiem's soul controlling ability made it so that chariot requiem would protect the arrow, and made it impossible for enemies to attack chariot requiem and steal the arrow by making requiem the shadow of a person's soul, so attacking it attacks yourself
giorno wanted to defeat diavolo, so requiem's soul controlling ability made it so that gold experience requiem negated the actions and wills of anyone who attacked it

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so basically, requiem's true power is control over all souls, but what ability it has and how the requiem stand behaves is based on the user's wishes

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i hope the wording isn't too confusing, i know you're using a translator rohiyo

full ether
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no dw i know english but i dont want to have a mistakes so i use the translator for better compresion for you

noble gale
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oh nice

full ether
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Ok so its basically soul manipulation & plot? But what is consider dominion over souls? I suppose it refers to some type of metaphysical Stand ability such as the seen in the part 5 or some kind of power similar to White Snake, Heavens Door or Jail House Lock?

noble gale
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yea its basically soul manipulation manifested in however way the user wants at the current moment

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dominion over souls meaning... it controls all souls

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chariot requiem was able to switch the souls in people's bodies and mutate them slowly

full ether
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Ok its werid

sacred flaxBOT
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@full ether, your Stand Rank is now 2!

full ether
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My last message was deleted

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@noble gale Another question is about KC and the Requiem arrow. I saw you explained this but I still don't understand it. I mean the arrow clearly stabs KC, but why would SCR changing souls affect getting a requiem?

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i cant upload pics

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gg

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Anyway, if you want to check it, it's cap 37 min 3:20

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but I guess u know what I'm saying

noble gale
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king crimson didn't manage to stab himself with the arrow, because when bucciarati killed chariot requiem, it turned king crimson's soul ethereal, so his hands just passed through the arrow

full ether
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Oh