#how did dio know how to create heaven stands

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wooden hare
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A lot of research and study.

haughty geode
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so bro casualy reserched on wiki how to get a universal level stand

fair crypt
haughty geode
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yh but we are just going to ignore that just like araki ignored ger

tribal moth
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heaven stands aren't a thing

ancient juniper
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Only stands Made In Heaven

dreamy estuary
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Cuz they wanted to bring back dio but didnt know how so he was just enlightened with heavenly knowlege and gave it down to pucci so part 6 would happen

ancient juniper
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Fr

thin lynx
jovial compass
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it visibly is

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it shows the whole universe condensing into the big crunch

jovial compass
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also please dont use powerscaler language for stands
'universal'

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it doesnt mean anything for standsz since they only have one ability

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pucci affects the whole universe, but he only affects them in one way, accelerating time

thin lynx
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I do it for the jojo powerscalers

jovial compass
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based actually

thin lynx
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people need to know that pucci only sped up the process of the universe's own collapse

jovial compass
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yeah but he did it to the whole universe

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is that not what universal means

thin lynx
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no

jovial compass
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oh

thin lynx
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univeral means you can destroy them

jovial compass
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what term would be used for 'can affect the whole universe' then

thin lynx
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idk

jovial compass
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or do people not bother with such weaksauce awful bad characters when they powerscale (not weak, people just powercreep their powerscaling because of things like dbz and marvel comics)

compact hedge
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i mean bro been reading the bible a lot so he knew sm

gloomy prawn
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he didnt know, but he was basically philosophizing his perfect mindset, in which both him and pucci believed it would lead to heaven. because stands are a manifestation of ones fighting spirit and ideals, the changing of both affects the stand. EX: Koichi

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thats what i think at least

tribal moth
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manifestation of ideals??

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and koichi's case is because he sort of got a premature stand

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he wasn't meant to live it. he wasn't mentally strong

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hence egg and the acts

oblique lantern
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I don’t think it’s all that mysterious or random

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Time and gravity and fate are linked as dio found out

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The world can stop time and dio probably found a hidden potential in that, like how stand users are just aware of their abilities and capabilities of them

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The need for a trusted friend is more philosophical and the necessity of that trust, probably not related to the actual power mechanisms

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The souls of the sinners are explained, sinners hold more power in their souls

thin lynx
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and the trusted friend must carry out the other half of the plan as well since the world no longer exists

oblique lantern
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And stands being the manifestation of your soul…”spirit energy”, then the world being destroyed and absorbing those souls means it gains more power but the stand is deconstructed to its basics

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That being gravity

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Then as for the exact location and time, that’s probably just scientific research

thin lynx
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Isn’t it literally stated to be something “new”?

oblique lantern
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It is something else

thin lynx
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Entirely new

oblique lantern
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But you still need the power of the world

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Not entirely

thin lynx
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What instance of gravity is in the green baby?

oblique lantern
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If it were entirely new then it wouldn’t have any aspects of dio

oblique lantern
thin lynx
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After absorbing the souls it becomes a new being

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And you said the world gets deconstructed to the basic abilities of gravity

oblique lantern
oblique lantern
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That power being able to stop time

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Made in heaven uses gravity to accelerate time

thin lynx
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Just skip to the important part

oblique lantern
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And this is more established in part 7

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Tusk being able to move in timestop bc of gravity

oblique lantern
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The only real understanding dio would need is of gravity and alchemy, the only thing I would think is the most confusing is how he knew that when he destroyed his stand it would absorb the souls and become something else

thin lynx
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Alchemy?

oblique lantern
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Was an external resurrection necessary in the original plan? Because it implies dio would be alive to perform it then die

thin lynx
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If it’s just the world’s dying body collecting 36 strong souls and becoming a new being. Then dio’s revival isn’t necessary

oblique lantern
thin lynx
oblique lantern
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Like little humans

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Small people

thin lynx
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Could you like elaborate a bit?

oblique lantern
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The green baby

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I’m pretty sure it’s like a humoncolpus

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How ever u spell it

jovial compass
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homunculus

oblique lantern
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But since he’s already dead that removes the need for him having to destroy his stand and kill himself