jojo-overall-discussion

[fleet estuary]

one does more evil than the other, but even then that makes it irrelevant

[raw dragon]

they're the same person

[fleet estuary]

i agree

[surreal plaza]

they are kinda different. part 1 dio is more sadistic, he's just doing psychotic shit for fun. while part 3 dio still retains some of those traits, he's more chill and usually only kill when it serves his goal.

still it's not that he gets kinder or anything, he just doesn't care enough to kill for fun anymore

[fleet estuary]

Don’t think that’s true

There are a lot of random bodies

[surreal plaza]

he had to kill them for their blood

ig u can say he made that dude ran over ppl for fun but im talking in general

[fleet estuary]

Also he had sex with(maybe non consensual/mind control) many women

[surreal plaza]

maybe

[timber moon]

He had to bone someone for Giorno to exist

[glossy mason]

I need everyone to start watching JJBA Musical Leitmotifs on YOUTUBE

[fleet estuary]

And versus and rikiel and ungalo

[hearty shuttle]

True. It depends on the circumstances

I like how stands got progressively more complex throughout the series

[ornate bay]

I mean there's only so much you can do with "bird makes fire" and "guy who punches"

[marsh bobcat]

@craggy swallow why did we vote howler

[marsh bobcat]

i mean

paco is just a guy who punches

i think its mostly like 40% stand 60% how the person uses it

the hustle is a very simple stand

but he uses it very well

he gets tapped by 200 balloons and shifts the bubble to inside ningbozo’s mouth

[hearty shuttle]

You're right 😭 But those were just the foundations of a new power system

[raw dragon]

i like to gauge stand complexity by which are the "gun" or "shooting" equivalents of each part

Part 3- Ghost Gun, can control bullets and whatnot

[hearty shuttle]

Araki definitely refined it

[raw dragon]

Part 4- Rat Gun, goop melting

[ornate bay]

Also what the fuck counts as an "attribute" to Soft and Wet

[raw dragon]

now they're slightly more elaborate and have more going on

[ornate bay]

Temperature and senses count

Uh

...

[raw dragon]

Part 5- bunch of little guys who direct the bullets, they're sentient

really getting into the complexity of the stands there

[hearty shuttle]

Fr. Like when he protected Jodio from Charming Man's knife attack

[ornate bay]

Part 4: GUNGUNGUNGUN

[raw dragon]

Part 6- fucking reading the wind currents to shoot or something

they're getting pretty complex here

[raw dragon]

oh right those guys too

cus part 4 also introduced swarm stands

[hearty shuttle]

Manhattan Transfer 🔥

[surreal plaza]

there's also whitesnake who just holding a glock lol

[hearty shuttle]

Very cool

[raw dragon]

part 7 is all about shooting, either balls or nails, and they play more on character studies and development, because this is Araki's narrative peak (so far)

then part 8 doesn't have a shooting stand cus it suuuuckssss ayo 🗣️ 🔥

[surreal plaza]

bubbles

[craggy swallow]

Huh

[marsh bobcat]

you voted howler

[craggy swallow]

Oh shit I misclicked

[raw dragon]

oh wait i forgot

then part 9 has one where it just slows the bullets down

[marsh bobcat]

the main character shoots bubbles

larp maybe?

[raw dragon]

imagine that, imagine being born with glory days and its like yeah ok, i can make this work, and then you come across someone with the emperor, who can pretty much do all you can do but more and better

that'd suck

[surreal plaza]

glory days seems very op tbh

[craggy swallow]

I meant to vote dio

[surreal plaza]

that stand could have been used much better

[raw dragon]

i don't think glory days is very op

i feel like there's a very clear ceiling on what its able to do

[surreal plaza]

what if he just carried a shotgun

[raw dragon]

i mean, all the pellets are still going in the same direction

a gun might be more useful ngl

[surreal plaza]

it's the perfect stand for trap

like imagine in the context of dio's mansion at the end of part 3

[raw dragon]

star platinum and silver chariot were both fairly faster than bullets by that point

[surreal plaza]

yea but what if instead of bullets it's cannon shots

[marsh bobcat]

idk i feel like a sniper would be better

[surreal plaza]

and coming from all directions

[marsh bobcat]

he just shoots a giant 50 bmg

then slows it to a halt

and lets jodio touch it

[raw dragon]

i mean idk maybe

but the thing about glory days

is that it only works on guns

[marsh bobcat]

a sniper is a gun

[raw dragon]

so really, the emperor is just a straight upgrade

[marsh bobcat]

a railgun is a gun

he just slows the railgun’s blast

[raw dragon]

semantically yeah but we couldn't tell if he would be able to slow it down

[surreal plaza]

yea like what's the definition of "gun" here

[raw dragon]

i feel like if he could he would've used one instead

[surreal plaza]

i think he just has a pistol because it's easier to carry

[marsh bobcat]

snipers are heavy and most normally bolt action

[marsh bobcat]

uhh

for balancing

any device used to launch bullets

[raw dragon]

do railguns have "bullets"?

[surreal plaza]

his stand is better for planned attacks in a closed environment, not good at chasing enemies down like how he did

[raw dragon]

i only know them from gta 5

[surreal plaza]

yea

[raw dragon]

"regular firearm"

idk man

[surreal plaza]

well it only says he carries a regular firearm, not that he can ONLY control a regular firearm

[hearty shuttle]

I just met this character, but his ability reminds me of Sex Pistols

But less powerful

[raw dragon]

yeah dude that's what im saying lol

its like straight up a downgrade from The Emperor

[hearty shuttle]

That just means the user has to be smarter about its use

[raw dragon]

What if the horse thinks ever smarter-er tho

[hearty shuttle]

🥀

[raw dragon]

that's my goat right there

[fleet estuary]

It’s probably goated

Don’t you know slow bullet is an unblockable

[sour sail]

Jojo is awesome. that's that.

[fleet estuary]

You are correct

[ornate bay]

The power of Jobin

[marsh bobcat]

i mean he kinda is

do we forget he can control the speed

not just slow down the bullets

@pale bough

oh they not online

oh

i stand corrected

https://tenor.com/view/lol-rdj-juggtok-giftok-tonystark-facials-gif-3958302751287261929

[pale bough]

Lol

[marsh bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/daredevil-wilson-fisk-fisk-fisk-clapping-clapping-gif-10091145555573430166

[ornate bay]

Mfw I come back online to what I think is activity but it's just a goddamn bot

[pale bough]

Im

[marsh bobcat]

yo

why are the only 2 (appearing) online mods

on dnd

😭

[pale bough]

Because I don't want y'all in my business 😔

[marsh bobcat]

i mean uhh

pistols and

mando

[ornate bay]

Talking here is like the panopticon bc Lys is set to invisible LOL

[pale bough]

Oh... Idk

[marsh bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-aura-ishowspeed-meme-gif-18225329518632709490

[pale bough]

I just be scrying n shit

[ornate bay]

😭

[fresh smelt]

how are you supposed to upload the images?

huh, for some reason the page is bugged for me when I maximize the screen

[dawn flax]

Quick question why do the stand names in the subtitles in the anime different than the actual stand names

Like sticky fingers is zipper man

And echos is reverb

[jaunty path]

they use the same subtitles for both sub and dub on netflix

[dawn flax]

Ahhh I see

[ornate bay]

They localize names to avoid copyright

[full path]

hello people

[jaunty path]

hihi

[full path]

darumi cosplay?

[jaunty path]

do u play thl?????

[full path]

no but it sounded like a cool cosplay

[jaunty path]

oh... 😭

[upbeat needle]

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[ornate bay]

Fuck yeah

[keen bronze]

HEYYYY !!

[raven spindle]

Do u guys think jodio joestar's hairstyle would look good irl?

I mean i have naturally straight and thick hair so i might be predisposed to have that but idk if it'd look good irl

[keen bronze]

Imm think If it's done well it could be pretty but it would look a bit like a helmet

but i think its can look good

[full path]

im basically johnny without the blue

[tender flower]

Hello I am araki, Jojo will have the naked men and girls on every pages

[sage horizon]

finially

[surreal plaza]

it would look like this prob

[magic fiber]

Can anyone rate my Johnny manga animation?

[pulsar musk]

where is my goat @cerulean pond

[raven spindle]

I've seen cosplayers and it dies not look like this

[surreal plaza]

yea to look good u must style it a lot i think

[raven spindle]

Fair enough

Is it concerning that someone told me they find jodio joestar relatable?

[shut dew]

my friend was asking about JoJo spinoffs and he was like "i wanna check them out" but i had to explain a lot of them are really shitty

so I tried to give him a list

hows this look team

These are the JoJo spinoffs that aren't garbage in order of "importance"

• Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan (Araki. Fleshes out supernatural phenomena beyond stands and vampires. Has a partial animated adaptation and a complete live action adaptation with some liberties.)
• Dead Man's Questions (Araki. 3-part epilogue to part 4. Incredibly important. Shockingly doesn't have an adaptation.)
• Purple Haze Feedback (Kohei Kadono. Light novel epilogue to part 5. Phases in and out of fan discussions sometimes and is featured in several video games. Among spinoffs, it's probably the fan-favourite, and for good reason.)
• Eyes of Heaven (video game with a parts 1-8 crossover story that Araki was involved with)
• Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak (Kohei Kadono. Manga epilogue to part 3 as well as prologue to part 4.)
• Rohan at the Louvre (Araki. One-shot, it's actually REALLY good. Has a live action adaptation, but we're here for the art.)
• "The Book": 4th Another Day (Not much to say, like I said before it's just the only other novel besides PHF that's good enough to be considered headcanon. It's a "sequel" that takes place before Jotaro leaves Morioh at the end of part 4.)
  HONORABLE MENTIONS:
• Whitesnake's Miscalculation (One-shot manga. This one is fucking weird I'm ngl, but it's still better than everything I didn't mention. Takes place during part 6)
• Over Heaven (Light novel. Meant to be DIO's diary. Theres some really interesting ideas in this one, but it goes a little too far. Fans dislike this one because some people try to use it as a source, which is problematic because you're assuming the author's interpretation of DIO is definitive.)

[static briar]

I'd put demonic heartbreak over eyes of heaven but I can def understand why you put them in that order

[shut dew]

yeah I definitely prefer CDDH as a piece of media, I just feel like Eyes of Heaven comes up in fan discussions more often and Araki's involvement gives it that push

[neon dew]

ger vs soft and wet go beyond

[raw dragon]

boring-ass basic answer but it depends on who the 'author' wants to win

there's an argument to be made for either

[chrome merlin]

Asking for a friend what do you guys think is the worst part

[humble root]

Carai um brasileiro por aqui kkkk

https://tenor.com/view/jjba-jojos-joestar-joseph-omg-gif-5125168

[chrome merlin]

Diga aí

[humble root]

Só fiquei surpreso mesmo kkk

Brasileiro tá em todo lugar mesmo slk

[floral moth]

3

[static briar]

pains me to say it but 1

[robust marsh]

what is y'all fav stands?

[hazy geyser]

Heaven's Door for sure he's so op tbh

[dusty hornet]

Silver chariot

[topaz badger]

Shiii magicians red

[rancid thistle]

Anyway here familiar with the jojo fan project “The lighted stage”? I just started the first episode and it seems pretty good so far! Anyone else had a look at it?

[raven spindle]

Who do u guys think is the prettiest jojo?

[upbeat cave]

saw this on tiktok, which stand could best tank a incoming nuke

i think i have an alr awnser i didnt see anyone else say

[floral moth]

Giorno

[floral moth]

20th century boy only i think

[upbeat cave]

what abouts stands that could stop one?

[raw dragon]

idk if any stand could survive a nuke

[floral moth]

Star platinum, the world, MAYBE s&w, sticky fingers, cmoon,

[raw dragon]

oh yeah cmoon probably

reverse gravity and that

[floral moth]

cant think of anything else

Uh

[upbeat cave]

spice girl cant lie

[floral moth]

Echoes act 0

Trust

[raw dragon]

spice girl?

[upbeat cave]

mhm

[floral moth]

Maybeee

[upbeat cave]

makes it soft so it doesnt explode

[floral moth]

I guess if u could reach it before it detonates

[raw dragon]

nukes work through an internal mechanism

they're not like landmines where they need to press something to explode

[shrewd light]

did someone say mechanism

[raw dragon]

plus they're mostly activaded mid-air

[shrewd light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-jodio-pinkman-jesse-qtgxHxqjaUCDvNXYbr

[floral moth]

Killer queen could stop a nuke

It explodes it before the nuke explodes itself

[upbeat cave]

maybe maybe

[floral moth]

Making a much smaller explosion

[raw dragon]

i think you're all loons

[static briar]

the hand might have a chance

[raw dragon]

assuming the stand is on the floor they couldn't do anything

[floral moth]

Stand jumps brah

[static briar]

as long as it constatly tps to the nuke

[shrewd light]

the hand

[static briar]

so that it could stop it mid air

[shrewd light]

yeah

[upbeat cave]

idk, i dont think the hand could erase the whole thing

[raw dragon]

almost every stand has like a 5- meter radius

[floral moth]

Ok?

[shrewd light]

i mean it could erase some of it

[floral moth]

Stand jump

[shrewd light]

feel like if it erased enough it couldnt detonate

[static briar]

I don't think stands can jump that high

[upbeat cave]

cheap trick

[raw dragon]

dude they don't detonate 5 meters from ground

[shrewd light]

even aside from stand jumps the hand doesnt have a proven range that it can erase space

[floral moth]

I could

[raw dragon]

his hand

😭

he erases things with his hand

[shrewd light]

no dude i mean space erasure not the actual erasure

when he pulls shit to him

😭

did you forget abt that

[upbeat cave]

doesnt he do both

[raw dragon]

yeah and it erases the amount his hand can cover

[shrewd light]

he can choose

[static briar]

just checked to make sure and they detonate at like 20-40kms of the ground (at least according to wikipedia)

[raw dragon]

that's not much

[upbeat cave]

cant lie never made sense

[shrewd light]

remember when he first fought josuke

[raw dragon]

like no stand could deal with this bro

[static briar]

the hand with prep time can trust

[raw dragon]

I do, it doesn't change much

[upbeat cave]

how do you prep with the hand?

[static briar]

https://tenor.com/view/zoom-okuyasu-nijimura-jojo-the-hand-za-hando-gif-14165069

do that but vertically

[floral moth]

WAIT

[shrewd light]

its almost like i said this

like 5 times

[floral moth]

Couldnt d4c in some way

[shrewd light]

yeah

[floral moth]

If u js get

[static briar]

erm I said it first actually

[upbeat cave]

could creams size fit erase a nuke?

[shrewd light]

love train would work fine

[floral moth]

The nykes to touch eachother

[floral moth]

Not love train

[raw dragon]

absolutely not

[floral moth]

Like AU nuke and our universe nuke

[raw dragon]

because it has to cover it with some sort of surface

and he can't do that cus it's 20 kms up in the air

[shrewd light]

love train would be fine because it redirects any misfortune in the nation not just that hits funny valentine

[raw dragon]

and it's also very big

[shrewd light]

normal d4c wouldnt work

[floral moth]

Yeah thats why i ssid in some way

[raw dragon]

nukes are large objects

[upbeat cave]

what if, the nuke landed inside burning down the house

[shrewd light]

how the hell

[upbeat cave]

luck

[shrewd light]

dude it wouldnt hit the ground 😭

[upbeat cave]

https://tenor.com/view/steel-ball-run-pocoloco-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-gif-16146405956090304299

[shrewd light]

the hand MIGHT be able to do it

[raw dragon]

how do you think nukes work bro

[static briar]

shoot the nuke vertically with manhatthan transfer like 10 times

[shrewd light]

d4c love train would be fine

[static briar]

that should do the trick

[shrewd light]

who else

[raw dragon]

I severely doubt it, it most certainly couldn't reach it by the time it detonates

[upbeat cave]

the lock

[shrewd light]

yeah might

[shrewd light]

😭

yeah

the lock

no harvest

[upbeat cave]

holys stand solos

[shrewd light]

since most stands cant destroy a nuke the best strategy would be getting it so high in the air it doesnt do anything

[floral moth]

Star platinum sucks the nuke toward itself turns it around and throws it into space

[static briar]

well I guess ger and bohemian could stop it but that's a lame answer

[shrewd light]

depending on cmoons range cmoon could make it fall upwards

[floral moth]

Yeah

[shrewd light]

mih would just make it worse

does mih affect gravity tho?

or air resistance

[raw dragon]

stands that could def survive a nuke

Vanilla Ice's Cream

C-Moon maybe

20st Century Boy

D4C Love Train

[upbeat cave]

prob not

[shrewd light]

cmoon is all range dependant

[floral moth]

Oh survive and not stop

[shrewd light]

im more thinking of beat it not survive

[raw dragon]

it 'affects time' via gravity so not exactly

[upbeat cave]

yes yes ]

[static briar]

bohemian summons goku and ger reverses it since someone had to drop the nuke

[shrewd light]

i mean the news interview where the cup fell really fast

[raw dragon]

what do yall even think "beating" a nuke even means

[floral moth]

Yeah s&w is surviving this

[shrewd light]

destroying it or preventing ANY destruction

not js

surviving it

[upbeat cave]

he cant contorl what the characters do, goku lit could just stand there

[raw dragon]

those were the effects of time acceleration tho bro

[static briar]

deactivating it methinks

[shrewd light]

yeah ik im saying mih during

[raw dragon]

huh???

[upbeat cave]

spice girl

[shrewd light]

mih by itself doesnt even do much

[floral moth]

He can use the bubbles as a shield hes done it before

[raw dragon]

spice girl doesn't do shit to the nuke dude

[raw dragon]

not for a nuke???

[upbeat cave]

makes it too soft and not explode

[raw dragon]

do you guys think Nuclear Bombs are like slightly larger dynamite what the hell

[floral moth]

No set amount of force the bubbles can hold

[shrewd light]

😭

[raw dragon]

ohhh my god bro

[static briar]

ok then summon "the guy that has the same powers as goku and is really gullible"

[shrewd light]

i mean technically since you said that

[raw dragon]

dude if S&W bubbles could withstand a Nuke why didn't Josuke just cover himself in bubbles to approach and kill WoU

[upbeat cave]

hammon solos a nuke

[raw dragon]

have some common sense man

it's a nuke

[shrewd light]

feel like kars could absolutely tank a nuke

[floral moth]

Weve seen soft and wet take away friction and sound this is not a ridiculous thing to say😭

[shrewd light]

and if he didnt he could regen fs

[static briar]

those bubbles can't even resist some atmospherical pressure from ozon baby 🎋

[shrewd light]

ultimate kars would be fine

[floral moth]

Because calamity is stronger than a nuke bro what are u talking about😭😭😭

[shrewd light]

first of all he can withstand extreme heat if hes given more than like 4 seconds or smth

volcano for example

[raw dragon]

"they stole friction so they can resist a Nuclear Bomb" you might have a few neurons connected the incorrect way bro

[shrewd light]

second of all pillar men can regen

[floral moth]

He literally covered himself in the bubble to stop ozone baby from affecting him

[raw dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-trying-to-not-laugh-speed-holding-laugh-speed-laughing-speed-laugh-gif-242565803459391828

[static briar]

are you sure

remember how he defeated poor tom

[floral moth]

Not with 100% accuracy

But i do remember

Hold on

[static briar]

he had to use like a trillion bubbles

[shrewd light]

kars is literally immortal

ultimate form

[raw dragon]

this fella is so nincompooped

[static briar]

to bluff him into thinking poison was in it

[shrewd light]

kars aint a stand tho

szo

so

[raw dragon]

kars would die to a nuclear bomb guys

[shrewd light]

he would not

😠

normal kars MIGHT

because theres still the extremely strong regen

[raw dragon]

thank god i know you're either ragebaiting or dumb

[shrewd light]

neither

[upbeat cave]

kars would be crazy ingurded but just heal

[raw dragon]

sure

[shrewd light]

dawg santana is the weakest pillar man and he regen'd from being blown up at point blank range

[raw dragon]

you guys know he almost got defeated by lava right

like he had to figure out a way to "resist it" as he was burning alive

and even then only managed to do so because he found out a way real life creatures can live in extremely hot environments

no living being can survive a nuclear bomb

some extremophiles can survive radiation, not the bomb

[surreal plaza]

a nuke might be too much but who knows, i feel like if one of his cell is still intact he can regenerate from it

[shrewd light]

dude kars is still alive after being in space he literally just got frozen

ultimate kars

[raw dragon]

not one of his cells would be intact

[shrewd light]

is OUTRIGHT SAID

to be immortal

[raw dragon]

"lend me some author statements araki this is 5000 C lava im up against"

[surreal plaza]

yea but total atomic destruction is a different story

[shrewd light]

if it was point blank he might be in such tiny pieces he cant regen but if it was any further he could

radiation prolly wouldnt be an issue tho

[static briar]

Yellow temperance can just cover its user and they will survive the bomb trust

[shrewd light]

fr guys

[surreal plaza]

would superfly survive a nuclear bomb?

[shrewd light]

yes

[shut dew]

Araki once said one of his reasons for concluding the original universe was that he felt he had pushed the power scaling of stands to their upper limit and needed a "reset button."
But I never really considered the fact that JoJo had power creep until I read this statement, I always felt like some parts had stronger characters than others but it was by no means linear-- but it kind of is, particularly with main protag and villain stands.

With a series like DBZ, linear powerscaling that never stops going up makes sense, but I never thought of JoJo that way.
So my question is...
Is the powerscaling of JoJo really that important to you?
If the part 7 protagonist was Shizuka Joestar and she had a non-combat stand, would that feel inappropriate?
Or if we had a villain who just broke the time/space trend? Is that a make or break sort of thing for you?
I just want to survey opinions.

[raw dragon]

"if we nerfed the nuke he might be able to handle it" lmao🥀

[shrewd light]

idfk

[shut dew]

then dont answer? 😭

[raw dragon]

did he ever say this

[shrewd light]

"nerfing" youre literally putting it in the best circumstances

[raw dragon]

nukes can decimate entire cities, for kars to survive you actively have to remove him from said city

[shrewd light]

so im assuming you mean completely point blank right

[raw dragon]

also as far as im aware what he actually said was he reset the original universe because he felt he had reached his peak narratively and in story telling, i never read anything related to stand powerscaling

[shut dew]

are you gonna do anything but give input to the actual question tho

[surreal plaza]

ehhh every part is a separated story anyways, like characters in part 4 are so much weaker than in part 3. idrc about power scaling as long as the story is good and stays consistent

[shut dew]

i dont mind if people are hostile, its not personal, ill just ask somewhere else

but like...

[raw dragon]

im not because i dont even know if Araki ever stated something like that

[shrewd light]

all it depends on is distance (to an extent, im not saying completely out of the blast range just not right in the center) and then how fast kars can regenerate

[static briar]

I personally wouldn't care (I doubt anyone would but I can't say that for certain), but I think the reset was a good idea anyway because the main timeline was getting more and more unnecessarily tangled (like the fact that dio now had a priest friend who was like, his best friend ever or that he had kids in the us)

[raw dragon]

it'd be like if you said "Guys Araki once said the best JoJo part was objectively 4, what do y'all feel about this?"

like i can't engage with this question if Araki didn't say that, you know?

[shut dew]

okay go take a chill pill its fine im getting real answers anyway

i dont mind

[raw dragon]

im not mad i just want to know if there's a source 😭

[shrewd light]

victim complex brah

[shut dew]

i dont just pull shit out of my ass but im also not gonna go on a 50 minute dig for this quote because you wanna be the smartest guy in the room.
the point is just whether power scaling is important to people or not!

anyway you said you dont want to engage so its fine

[shrewd light]

pft

bwahahahaha

[shut dew]

are you larping

[static briar]

You could prob search for keywords in the interview archive in the jojowiki if you really wanted to make sure it's real

[shut dew]

whats wrong

[shrewd light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-im-crine-jonathan-joestar-b6p6lJcE2eIws8E84F

[shut dew]

alright this has gotten a little silly, thanks for the answers everyone! :))

[raw dragon]

the fireball ("immediate blast radius") of a nuke (without even getting into its various other effects) is about 1km, for Kars to even stand a chance of ever surviving this he has to be outside this range

and even then, the extreme pressure and force they generate might just tear him apart entirely, we know pillar men are extremely resistant but there is a limit, when buildings collapse with the force of the wind then surviving a small piece of dynamite stops being all that impressive

[shrewd light]

im pretty sure somewhere in the manga it said like a specific amount that santana could regen but idk if that applies

like a specific length of pieces of his body

it would prolly take like being atomized for ultimate kars not to regen but it doesnt say

hes not durable enough to just take no damage even if he found some sort of adaptation he'd have to witness it first

so its just if he can regen before getting atomized which would be uihh

really fast

not instant just like VERY fast

and also one thing you never specified

what kind of nuke?

[static briar]

Does it matter

[shrewd light]

yes bro

😭

[raw dragon]

why

[shrewd light]

well would you say the bomb dropped on hiroshima would be similar to a tsar or some shi

insane difference

[raw dragon]

he couldn't survive the first nuclear tests bro

[shrewd light]

he could

[floral moth]

The powerscaling in jojos is way different from the likes of dragon ball because the fights are built on logic and strategy and not fighting stats like strenght speed etc.

In some sense we still are getting stronger characters with every part but just in a better way because there are caveats to their powers unlike with the likes of giorno, pucci and jotaro.

So the increasing power level of the characters doesnt really matter in jojos because its done well and its also needed when it comes to the parts own storyline.

I do feel like powerscaling is very much needed in jojos because at the end of the day we always have a final villain that fights the main cast. The only way i could see Araki dropping the need for stronger characters as the story goes on is if the story doesnt involve a final antagonist and goes a totally different route outside of a story with fighting as one of its fundementals

Holy wall of text

[shrewd light]

this is somewhat unrelated but radiation would do nothing

[forest glacier]

Yo bro chill out

[raw dragon]

i do kind of agree with you on that but its not like it'd matter since he's never surviving that initial blast

[shrewd light]

pillar men regeneration is already pretty strong

kars even before ultimate was stronger than THEM

alr assuming that the lava in the volcano was like

[rich prairie]

Me personally i dont really mind if stands are too “powerful”, as long as their abilities are decently interesting thats more than enough for me

[shrewd light]

normal temp

like 1000 to 1200

c

[floral moth]

Unc im just being honest

[shrewd light]

back

[charred harbor]

I added speedwagon to my tomodachi life island and pinkie pie from my little pony fell in love with him.

Is it bad im actually starting to like the concept of it?

[shrewd light]

i accidentally clicked a different channel

anyway

the thing with lava is nobody would be like

instantly vaporized by it

so ig thats not a fair comparison

[rich prairie]

LMAO

[charred harbor]

their child shall be horrendous! :D

[shrewd light]

if theres either enough time during the blast which prolly isnt much for him to find a way to adapt to it or if he can somehow regen while being evaporated that would work

its a time thing

[forest glacier]

I wonder if when Caesar was hit by the boulder it was Jojo who killed him because he punched the rock😭

[rich prairie]

Wait is this asking which jojos character can survive a nuclear bomb?

[shrewd light]

yeah

we got some stands but rn im trying to prove ultimate kars could

[rich prairie]

Id say secco or magent magent

[shrewd light]

if secco went deep enough underground yeah

[static briar]

Lowkey cooking with secco

[raw dragon]

secco might be a contender

they gotta go pretty deep tho

[shrewd light]

theres no good comparison so its hard to prove ultimate kars can do shit

[surreal plaza]

he will still get super cancer from the radiation no?

[rich prairie]

He could probably cook up a cure

[shrewd light]

like aside from verbal statements kars can do a lot but nothing that justifies surviving a nuke

[static briar]

Swim like 300km away from the explosion for good measure

[shrewd light]

at the same time based on what people SAY kars COULD survive a nuke

[rich prairie]

Giorno makes an antibody out of a snake that was affected by purple haze’s virus

[shrewd light]

secco would be good honestly

[raw dragon]

he was panicking while on Lava's surface

nukes can reach a 1000000C temperature on their 1 km fireball

his ass is NOT surviving one

[rich prairie]

I feel like kars could do smth similar

[shrewd light]

well if regen or durability isnt a thing what abt adaptation

[rich prairie]

But yeah i feel like a nuke would just fuck kars up

[shrewd light]

he could just become a roach

highk

lmao

[raw dragon]

[shrewd light]

trust

roach

roach kars

actl what if he just

[rich prairie]

He takes some time to think abt a way to adapt to the lava for example

[shrewd light]

tardigrade

[rich prairie]

But like

[shrewd light]

even like 10 secs of prep time would be good enough cuz of kars iq but like

yeah yall right point blank would FRY him 😭

[rich prairie]

Tell me 1 substance on this earth that comes from natural life that can survive a nuke

Then we’ll talk

[shrewd light]

tardigrade

🥺

thats like a maybe

[static briar]

Kars would invent teleportation somehow trust

[raw dragon]

bad news

[rich prairie]

Nope😭

[floral moth]

@floral moth

[shrewd light]

if kars adapted to a tardigrade or some shit he could do smth

but theres also the fact that hes not just like

a tardigrade now

[shrewd light]

he still has regen

[shrewd light]

uh oh

[raw dragon]

idk why it answered that message but ehh whatever

[shrewd light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/anime-josuke-okuyasu-aWJLeHfvGVExd7vjmX

[rich prairie]

Yeah kars isnt surviving 😭

[shrewd light]

he done

guys houses of holy beats a nuke trust me

[rich prairie]

What even is that😭

[shrewd light]

like the regen is a chance

[shrewd light]

larppp!!!!!

its a niche ass stand from a japan exclusive jojo escape room

https://giphy.com/gifs/josuke-higashikata-chase-you-ozultvhB58mGEkcOpq

[rich prairie]

LMAO

[shrewd light]

im a historian trust

[rich prairie]

Wait i gotta search smth up rq

[static briar]

If kars ran away fast enough he could survive perchance

[shrewd light]

yes

[static briar]

But then we would heavily depend on how strong the nuke is

[shrewd light]

well if it was running i feel like a lot of jojo chars could survive

[rich prairie]

Also, how long do the characters have before the nuke makes contact

[shrewd light]

kars is really fast

[shrewd light]

this dude is talking abt point blank instant

[rich prairie]

Oh shit well lets see umm

[shrewd light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/anime-josuke-okuyasu-aWJLeHfvGVExd7vjmX

guys maybe we need a different kind of nuke

https://giphy.com/gifs/NzQkhb2iwaMbj7BfKw

[rich prairie]

False nuke

[static briar]

Now we're talking

[shrewd light]

if we're only saying stands and not users there are some funny technicalities

so first

the sun

https://giphy.com/gifs/josuke-higashikata-ohio-respect-morioh-xCPNzdeNgMSGDRIKCp

[rich prairie]

The fool maybe

Or would the sand just be vaporised instantly

[shrewd light]

i mean is it PHYSICAL sand

[raw dragon]

the sand vaporizes or is otherwise immediately cristalized

[rich prairie]

I think it states that it is somewhere

[raw dragon]

but technically the fool itself isn't harmed as the "sand"

[static briar]

Go deep underground just like secco

🙂‍↕️

[raw dragon]

the stand attaches itself to sand

[shrewd light]

sheer heart attack

[raw dragon]

but isn't the sand itself

[shrewd light]

would prolly be good

[raw dragon]

something like that

[rich prairie]

Hold on i think funny valentine could survive the nuke

[shrewd light]

isnt sheer heart attack LITERALLY invincible

[shrewd light]

that was

stated

long ago

[raw dragon]

didn't it get ever so slightly cracked by Star Platinum

[rich prairie]

Oh LMAO

[shrewd light]

i dont think

i think that was just visual shit idk

[rich prairie]

I only woke up like20 mins ago shhh

[raw dragon]

not in the same context

you said he could bring back another nuke to erase both

which was very stupid

[shrewd light]

no the other dude said that

[static briar]

Notorious big too but that's a lame answer

[raw dragon]

oh my bad then

[shrewd light]

im not that stupid

[raw dragon]

sure

[shrewd light]

i said that love train would actually protect the entire nation from the nuke

[rich prairie]

Idk if notorious big could survive it tbh

[raw dragon]

yeah that's slightly more valid

[shrewd light]

cuz its misfortune redirect for the nation or some bs not even just fv

so thats like bonus points for him ig 😭

[static briar]

It would insta chase the nuke and destroy it🙂‍↕️

[raw dragon]

i mean it still was damage

[shrewd light]

cheap trick technically survived

survives

[rich prairie]

Idk

[shrewd light]

theres a difference between survive and beat

[rich prairie]

Hear me out tho, spice girl #maybe

[shrewd light]

how would it even get up there

[rich prairie]

Would the nuke still explode if it was soft like rubber

[raw dragon]

but also you need to learn to interpret statements

[raw dragon]

yes 😭

how do y'all think bombs work

[rich prairie]

Idk how bombs work LMAO

[raw dragon]

ok

nuclear bombs activate through an internal mechanism

[static briar]

At that point just destroy the cables inside the nuke

[raw dragon]

and are usually blown up kms from the ground

[shrewd light]

if its an ignition thing

idk how nukes work very well

[raw dragon]

they're not a "touch the ground" thing

[shrewd light]

but if its anything like a gun

if spice girl SOMEHOW

got up there

[rich prairie]

Okok understood

[shrewd light]

js make the ignition pin soft

lmao

[raw dragon]

[shrewd light]

trust guys

[raw dragon]

feel like im losing my gotdang mind ova here

[static briar]

Just send a tactical diver down atp

[rich prairie]

Would strength survive considering its a huge ship? Forever would be cooked but just strength

[rich prairie]

Diver down?

[static briar]

It would get obliterated

[rich prairie]

True..

[raw dragon]

diver down? i hardly know er!

[shrewd light]

theres always a detonation command

[static briar]

Like some parts of it may remain somehwat recognizable but I think that's wishful thinking

[shrewd light]

like whatever causes it to go off

timer blah blah

if its electrical then just get rid of that

https://giphy.com/gifs/anime-josuke-okuyasu-aWJLeHfvGVExd7vjmX

[rich prairie]

With what

[shrewd light]

dont gotta like destroy the whole nuke

[shrewd light]

idk bro

guys dire from part 1 survives a nuke

trust

thunder cross split attack

https://giphy.com/gifs/josuke-higashikata-ohio-respect-morioh-xCPNzdeNgMSGDRIKCp

[rich prairie]

Just spamming the same 2 images

[static briar]

Danny survives because he's already obliterated anyway

[shrewd light]

yes

guys metallica trust

wait metallica could do smth highk

if it got in range

actl nah

[rich prairie]

Which it wont

[static briar]

If risotto is invisible the nuke can't see him therefore he survives🧠

[shrewd light]

guys survivor

[raw dragon]

dude any stand could beat a nuke if the nuke was deactivated and not moving and within range and recomissioned and all of its internal parts were scrapped and it was basically just a metal shell

[shrewd light]

survivor can beat a nuke fr

[shrewd light]

bro read 😭

if the stands can manage to deactivate it

then yeah

theres no like

[static briar]

I'm pretty sure holly's stand couldn't

[shrewd light]

you just said survive not let the nuke explode in your face

[shrewd light]

no bro it could

like easily

survivor solos all of mid leveling guys

[static briar]

Yea mb

[rich prairie]

Im thinking abt gappy, maybe he could take away the explosive properties of the nuke idk

[shrewd light]

boiling water stand beat nuke

[shrewd light]

i mean if the bubbles can take away metaphorical properties

[rich prairie]

But would emerald prospectors stand

[shrewd light]

theres no physically explodiness of a nuke

[rich prairie]

Good point

[static briar]

If josuk8 had surgeon level precision and mach 2 level speed in his bubbles he MIGHT be able to deactivate the nuke

[shrewd light]

dragons dream fr

[shrewd light]

go beyond or some shit

[static briar]

I mentioned precision for a reason

[shrewd light]

as if nukes werent pretty big 😭

[raw dragon]

if J8suke had a 50 km stand range and prep time and could stop time then yeah, I can see him managing to take away whatever properties of a nuke

[rich prairie]

I mean he was half of a doctor before equivalent exchange, surely he just learns

[shrewd light]

but bubble

[carmine pagoda]

What about White Album? Ghiaccio would need to touch the falling bomb somehow tho

[shrewd light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-im-crine-jonathan-joestar-b6p6lJcE2eIws8E84F

[rich prairie]

Dio, j8suke, and rohan with heavens door team up surely

[shrewd light]

how would he touch it

[raw dragon]

at no point do we see bubbles like, further than 50 m

[shrewd light]

bro most stands can beat a nuke its just they cant fucking get to it 😭

[carmine pagoda]

That's a great question

[static briar]

Heavy weather would turn the guy who is about to drop the nuke into a snail

[raw dragon]

you've just been bouncing your position around lol

[shrewd light]

chocolate disco guys

just

just trust

[static briar]

I trust

[carmine pagoda]

What about Bohemian Rhapsody

[shrewd light]

bohemian would win

easily

[rich prairie]

Yeah reposition the nuke to 3 meters in front of you instead of 1

[shrewd light]

hollon

[rich prairie]

Thatll work

[shrewd light]

its better than nothing 🥺

[raw dragon]

she bohe on my mian til I rhapsody

[static briar]

Ok so we may have overlooked a pretty obvious contender

Sticky fingers

[shrewd light]

if we're talking initial blast hes all good

radiation will FRY him 😭

[rich prairie]

The radiation tho

[shrewd light]

anti nuke man is my oc and he makes no nukes exist ever and when he appears in the fictional series jojos bizzare adventure he makes no nukes exist

[static briar]

Radiation ain't that bad

[shrewd light]

bohemian rhapsody wins

"radiation aint that bad"

hes gonna be

right under the center of the nuke

when he comes out

he will be in the MOST CONCENTRATED

AREA

[rich prairie]

Oh yeah well my oc is a cute ferret

[shrewd light]

OF RADIATION

[rich prairie]

(Idk how this will help)

[static briar]

Ok so listen

He survives the initial blast right

[shrewd light]

guys mandom

just save a little time

[static briar]

As soon as that goes away

Bruno skedaddles tf out of there

[shrewd light]

by the time he skedaddles hes already gonna have MUCH MORE than a fatal amount of radiation

[static briar]

He will be affected by some of the fallout but he should survive

[shrewd light]

dude with that much radiation hes prolly not even getting out of whatever town or city before he just dies

[static briar]

Radiation is overrated