stardust-crusaders

[ionic ravine]

How much do you think Jotaro without star platinum can lift?

[exotic depot]

4

[earnest cliff]

quintals?

lmao

[ionic ravine]

Did something like this about DIO

And how much he could lift

Or was it bench

[wintry rampart]

+4 tons?

[earnest cliff]

bro...

he's a human after all

[ionic ravine]

Jotaro probably could go close to a ton

[wintry rampart]

Oh whitout star Platinum

[earnest cliff]

yes

[ionic ravine]

DIO was able to lift at least 20 tons cause he is a vampire

[wintry rampart]

Around 150kg I think?

[ionic ravine]

Since a road roller is 20 tons

The average one at least

[earnest cliff]

I don't think so

[ionic ravine]

Yeah that's highball

Big highball

More realistically somewhere around the current world records

Maybe surpass them?

[earnest cliff]

bruh

and this is a deadlift

...

[earnest cliff]

probably not

[exotic depot]

What the fuck are they feeding people in iceland

[wintry rampart]

And Jotaro was able to hold it on to don't smash him whit star Platinum even when Dio applied pressure too if I remember the scene correctly?

[ionic ravine]

Yeah

But this is without Star Platinum

[earnest cliff]

world record deadlift is 500 kg

[exotic depot]

Peak vamp dio could lift a shit ton because at the time is body was weakened of the road roller scene

[earnest cliff]

how were you thinking close to a ton

[ionic ravine]

Idk lmao

[exotic depot]

Also not sure if things weigh much during stopped time

[earnest cliff]

you might actually have a point there

[exotic depot]

Maybe he unfroze it and flew back with a road roller

[ionic ravine]

And OVA DIO lifted an oil tanker which is heavier than a road roller IIRC

[ionic ravine]

Fr?

[earnest cliff]

also DIO was dumb when he fell for the magnetism trick, like how can anything work in stopped time

[exotic depot]

LMFAO fr

[exotic depot]

Ova dio >

[earnest cliff]

if every phenomenon is stopped during stopped time, then is there even any gravity?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i mean how is it working

[ionic ravine]

There isnt any gravity

That's why it seems like DIO is flying in timestop

[wintry rampart]

Well we can add in consideration when he was transformed in a 7 yo he punched a guy and made him fly away

[ionic ravine]

That's just attack strength, not lifting strength

Maybe that could factor in his lifting feats?

[exotic depot]

I mean if it were truly stopped time dio wouldn’t be able to see because light not moving to the eyes and blah blah, it’s just theatrical paused time

[earnest cliff]

he is definitely stronger than an average adult as a 7 year old, so he would be able to lift much more, still isnt close to a ton

[wintry rampart]

And let's say the average weight is 80kg so at 7yo he was able to throw 80kg easily

[ionic ravine]

How about Jonathan?

Didnt Jonathan rip open a steel collar?

[earnest cliff]

Jonathan can probably life a road roller if DIO (who is not in his prime) can

[exotic depot]

He threw a boat at someone in the ova 💀

[earnest cliff]

ova is not canon

[exotic depot]

Dio is so funny

“Fuck this one guy in particular”

[wintry rampart]

How about Joshep? Didn't he kick the shit out off literal gods?

[earnest cliff]

OVA DIO is terrifying, although I just couldn't watch it completely cuz the voice acting was shit

[earnest cliff]

he was smort

not necessarily stronger

he beat them in the battle of wits

[exotic depot]

20th century brain > dumb goo ancient warrior brain

[earnest cliff]

ez

[wintry rampart]

17 Yo > 2000+ yo Gods

[earnest cliff]

doesn't matter if he is an ultimate being with 400 iq

L Kars

[ionic ravine]

DIO OVA is probably stronger than manga and anime DIO

[earnest cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/kars-kars-jojo-jojo-weep-woom-weep-woom-bone-zone-gif-23084527

Kars is pissed off

[earnest cliff]

true

[wintry rampart]

BroThorPro what's whit the third arm in your pfp?

[earnest cliff]

we don't talk about that bro 😳

🤫

[wintry rampart]

Oooooohhhh0-0

[ionic ravine]

Do we know if some future parts happened in the OVA Timeline

All I know is that Parts 1-3 happened

[exotic depot]

What force would it take to split someone limb from limb by just throwing them with one hand. Not only that but also having those body parts rip other people apart

[earnest cliff]

I don't know much about the OVA

[exotic depot]

That’s gotta be going at least like bullet speed

[ionic ravine]

And IIRC the lost Phantom Blood Movie is a prequel of the Part 3 OVA

[earnest cliff]

its by the same production right?

[ionic ravine]

Yeah

I think so

[earnest cliff]

and that was when he just turned into a vampire

he drank so much blood later on

[ionic ravine]

And it was said he got far stronger after fire

[earnest cliff]

so he must have been much much stronger by the end of PB

[earnest cliff]

hmmmm

that gets me thinking

in the fight against tarkus, Jonathan got the energy of Zeppeli

So he's probably 2x stronger

which is still not at all good enough to beat Dio

[ionic ravine]

Jonathan after Deep Pass Overdrive imo was Zeppeli + Jonathan before it

[earnest cliff]

yes

[near star]

@earnest cliff, Your Stand Rank is now level 16 !

[earnest cliff]

so 2x stronger

[ionic ravine]

Jonathan and Zeppeli were relative at the time

So yeah

2x is plausible

[earnest cliff]

But that is not enough to beat Dio imo

wait

Dio

[ionic ravine]

Also

Dio scales far stronger than Tarkus who did this

[wintry rampart]

So... Who's the smartest JoJo then?

[ionic ravine]

Lifting a big ass boulder with a single finger

[earnest cliff]

till now, probably Joseph

[wintry rampart]

Ok

[earnest cliff]

bruh Araki isn't a fucking physicist

it might not be 100% accurate

[ionic ravine]

Talking to me or him?

[earnest cliff]

in general

a person's strength in one fight might contradict that in another

[ionic ravine]

This would need to take a supernatural amount of energy to even comprehend doing

[earnest cliff]

yes

[ionic ravine]

Idk how much cause no one exactly tests this lol

[earnest cliff]

bruh that

that's more than like 99% stands

so if he could see and touch stands he might actually beat most of them

[wintry rampart]

we have so much wack shit in jojo

Who is the best Zappelli?

caesar

[earnest cliff]

baron > caesar for me personally

[ionic ravine]

How?

He lost to a zombie

[earnest cliff]

wdym how

[ionic ravine]

Caesar going up against gods

[earnest cliff]

he said the best

[ionic ravine]

Compared to them

[earnest cliff]

not the strongest

[ionic ravine]

Oh

Then yeah I agree

[exotic depot]

Keeping this here hold on: On earth it takes about 10 Newton-meters (N-m) of energy to raise a 1 kilogram mass to a height of 1 meter. Since 1 N-m equals 1 Joule, that's 10 Joules. If it takes 1 second to lift the weight 1 meter, than you have converted 10 Joules of energy to potential energy in one second.

[wintry rampart]

If I spoiled then how do I hide the message as a spoiler message?

that wasnt a spoiler

[earnest cliff]

u didn't spoil anything

i was playing with u

[wintry rampart]

Ok...?

[earnest cliff]

i mean, i cant really explain here why I did that

[earnest cliff]

ok

[exotic depot]

Dio tosing a (assumed to be) 190lbs man at a force enough to tear his body and damage more people (I use the velocity of a 9mm handgun bullet to be generous) gives 147489 J of force

[earnest cliff]

he doin some serious physics shit

[exotic depot]

With 1 hand

[earnest cliff]

WTF

NAH NAH THAT'S CAP ARAKI

[wintry rampart]

he went out doing the equations

[ionic ravine]

Bro that probably puts vamp Dio at mansion 100 times stronger than a normal human

[exotic depot]

Wait

[ionic ravine]

Damn

[exotic depot]

Fucked up the calculations

Forget to convert to m/s

[earnest cliff]

much more

[exotic depot]

Brb

[earnest cliff]

fuck u

[exotic depot]

It’s going to be a lot less

[earnest cliff]

jk

[exotic depot]

But still high

[earnest cliff]

yes

[ionic ravine]

Probably in the dozens

Of times stronger than a normal human

[earnest cliff]

wait

I think we have some measurements of Straizo available

[ionic ravine]

Also need to factor the fact that one of the limbs was strong enough to break Speedwagon's arm

And it also broke his ribs

Cause he was coughing blood too

[wintry rampart]

yh it must’ve been going at incredible speed

[exotic depot]

13702 J is the force to toss a man the speed of a bullet. This is very generous considering part 1 characters are fucking huge bad im going off average weight of real human man. And dio difnelty tossed him faster than the travel speed of a 9mm in order to tear of his limbs. ALL WITH ONE HAND MIND YOU

[earnest cliff]

here's something to go about

[ionic ravine]

And that was Straizo who was in the middle of regenerating

[earnest cliff]

yes

[ionic ravine]

So his jumping capabilities were probably hindered for a bit

Cause it says "currently"

Meaning right now

[earnest cliff]

he said that despite being immortal it took a toll on his body

yes yes

[earnest cliff]

mad stuff

[ionic ravine]

But damn dude can jump about 14+ feet

At least

[wintry rampart]

🍞

[ionic ravine]

Pretty sure the world record is only 8 1/4 feet

[earnest cliff]

I am a 10th grader still, if I knew enough physics I might have been able to add to it, but I don't even know most of the shit except for like f=ma

[earnest cliff]

dayum

[exotic depot]

I would’ve used f=ma, but I couldn’t figure out the acceleration of a bullet 😔

[earnest cliff]

oh

[earnest cliff]

what's your education btw

just asking

[exotic depot]

Fucking college 💀 can’t figure out force

[earnest cliff]

sed

[wintry rampart]

Spoiler 🍩

[ionic ravine]

Also it was calculated that Straizo's legs were 3x more powerful than the rest of his body

I think by Stroheim

[tight stream]

WAMUU

[ionic ravine]

Probably explains why he can jump so high

[wintry rampart]

UUMAW

[tight stream]

The world is the ultimate stand

[ionic ravine]

Bro vampires are so broken

[wintry rampart]

how do yall remember that shit

[ionic ravine]

But they are considered fodder compared to pillarmen

Kars had 100 of them as his serfs

[tight stream]

Dio can move at infinity/ms

[exotic depot]

Oh! Just figured out acceleration can be calculated by (v1 - v2) / t

[earnest cliff]

final - initial

[tight stream]

Nice

[hasty dome]

Jonathan having difficulty fighting 1 vampire while Joseph wipes the floor with a bunch of vampires

[earnest cliff]

initial would be zero, final would be max speed

so pretty much just max speed/time

[ionic ravine]

And ppl thinks Jonathan beats Joseph

[hasty dome]

ikr

Joseph claps Jonathan

[tight stream]

Dio final speed infinity Dio initial speed/nothing / 0 = 0

[wintry rampart]

joseph is smarter

[tight stream]

Wait what

[hasty dome]

surpasses Jonathan in almost every way

[earnest cliff]

Jonathan got the raw power

[hasty dome]

except maybe physsical strength, but debatable

[earnest cliff]

Joseph tops him in every other field

[tight stream]

Jonathan would win in a fight

[ionic ravine]

But hamon vs hamon

In terms of hamon potency

Joseph wins

[hasty dome]

hamon, fighting skills, fighting intelligence, agility.

All Joseph is better than Jonathan

[earnest cliff]

yes

[ionic ravine]

His hamon was strong enough to obliterate pillarmen's flesh down to the bone

And could kill several vampires even while weakened

[earnest cliff]

delete

[tight stream]

If I had hamon I would carry around water

[hasty dome]

no future part stuff

[tight stream]

Oh my bad

[wintry rampart]

the mods will piss thdmsdlves watch out

[tight stream]

Kinda not a spoiler but alright

We keep it tight

[earnest cliff]

ikr, I spill water almost every single time

[exotic depot]

https://www.quora.com/How-many-pounds-of-force-does-it-take-to-rip-off-an-arm
Fucking hell man. This is the force for limb ripping 💀

[ionic ravine]

Meanwhile Jonathan struggled against zombies before deep pass and against a single vampire after

[earnest cliff]

Joseph trained more

[tight stream]

Just pop it out

[ionic ravine]

Even though Dio Brando most likely is stronger than the vampire lackeys individually still

[tight stream]

Joseph had like 3 different hamon masters

Wait no part 3 discussions

[ionic ravine]

It's part 3 chat

[earnest cliff]

Dio has got those brains too, it is much more difficult to beat Dio than any other vampire

[wintry rampart]

this is part 3

[tight stream]

But like

[hasty dome]

and gained hamon of a partner who was as strong as him

[tight stream]

Finished part 3

[earnest cliff]

Pillarmen > Dio Brando > Other vampires > Zombies

[hasty dome]

and both were stronger than Joseph in hamon

[ionic ravine]

I think Dio would beat a good amount of the vampire army

Like 20-30 at most

[tight stream]

Kars on top*

[earnest cliff]

yes

[hasty dome]

mf who say DIO beats the pillarmen with tw

[tight stream]

Dio would laser eye

[earnest cliff]

WHO THE FUCK

[ionic ravine]

Remember when Kars killed 3 of them by chopping them up?

[tight stream]

Donut?

[ionic ravine]

Didnt even cut their brain off or anything

[earnest cliff]

he NEEDS hamon or sunlight to beat them, which he himself cannot withstand

[tight stream]

Kars is broken

[earnest cliff]

and Ultimate Kars is just unkillable

[ionic ravine]

Meaning their regen probably sucks

[tight stream]

But WAMUU is fair and balanced

[wintry rampart]

TW is shit compared to him lmao

[tight stream]

What is tw

[earnest cliff]

the world

[tight stream]

The world?

[exotic depot]

and this is all centripetal force from the cops body, case in point dio is strong as fuck

[tight stream]

The world is mis represented I believe

[ionic ravine]

Vampires in P2 were the zombies while Kars was the Dio Brando

[hasty dome]

what

[tight stream]

He literally moves in 0 time, so if we calculate his punches

[earnest cliff]

short answer: he is strong as fuck
long answer: he is stroooooooooooooooooong as fuck

[tight stream]

A light tap that accelerates 1m/s

[earnest cliff]

true

[tight stream]

1m in 0 seconds

[hasty dome]

he moves at a certain speed in time stop

[tight stream]

Is same as 100000009900km per second

[hasty dome]

He isn't going so fast time has stopped

[ionic ravine]

I remember ppl who said the vampires in Kars' army were zombies

[tight stream]

As I multiplied both sides of the equation

[ionic ravine]

Clearly didnt pay attention to the part

[hasty dome]

time just stopped moving for everyone except him

your calculations are non relevant

Everyone just isn't moving

[earnest cliff]

I actually really enjoyed the concept of Part 2, the protagonist is really really weak compared to antagonists, in comparison to Jonathan obliterating Zombies in one episode

[tight stream]

Does he age the same?

[hasty dome]

and there is a lack of gravity

[hasty dome]

probably since he himself isn't affected

but its a few seconds so it's not like it matters

[tight stream]

He can carry a road roller

[ionic ravine]

Vampires dont even age

Physically at least

[tight stream]

I don’t wanna say it

But if u get it you get it

[ionic ravine]

Ok

[hasty dome]

yea.. that's the force of a vampire and one of the strongest physsical stands together

[tight stream]

But knives being thrown

[ionic ravine]

Wasnt it DIO himself who carried the road roller?

But

[tight stream]

They technically are an independent object

[hasty dome]

and?

He can move things

[tight stream]

Yes

[hasty dome]

yes

[ionic ravine]

DIO used The world to punch the road roller along with his own strength

[tight stream]

So they enter his sphere when they get touched

[hasty dome]

what

no..

[exotic depot]

Force to hold a ton: 8890 N (2000lbs * the force of gravity since you’re going against gravity to hold it in place) so this could be larger depending on how fast you life the weight.

||Force required 32749 N to toss a 190lbs man at 380m/s^2 (about the acceleration of a 9mm)||

[earnest cliff]

how do knives move for a long distance, and then stop instead of just not fucking moving when they leave his hand

[ionic ravine]

What is the average force an average man can exert?

[tight stream]

That’s what I’m confused

They knives aren’t frozen

[ionic ravine]

So I can make a educated guess on how strong Dio is compared to a human

[tight stream]

But the second they touch DIO they aren’t, and when they leave they lose all its force?

[hasty dome]

no..

[earnest cliff]

true

[hasty dome]

if that was the case every person he touched would be "Unfrozen"

which clearly isnt the case

[tight stream]

Yeah

[ionic ravine]

I always thought DIO was so strong that he could move the objects for a bit before freezing

[tight stream]

So

[ionic ravine]

But Ig that was just me being dumb

[earnest cliff]

or it should just go infinitely, like what is stopping it?

at a certain point too

[tight stream]

Knives thrown would slice the person

And travel around the world a billion times

[exotic depot]

Just chooses what stays paused and what doesn’t I guess

[earnest cliff]

yes

[earnest cliff]

plot convenience

[tight stream]

This is so confusing

[hasty dome]

DIO is smart (supposedly) If he threw the knifes with a fast force it would mean they would go far beyond target before time stop ends. If a knife where to hit someone in time stop them it would move them like in 0 gravity and just continue forward.

[ionic ravine]

Apparently Dio is at least 130 times stronger than a normal human

I calculated how much force someone can exert in newton's and it said 251

[earnest cliff]

wdym fast force or slow force bro, what is even resisting the motion of the knife?

[tight stream]

DAMN IT

[near star]

@tight stream, Your Stand Rank is now level 4 !

[ionic ravine]

32749/251 =130

[tight stream]

There is good example of stand I am talking about

[hasty dome]

How much force DIO exerts on the object

[tight stream]

But part 5

[ionic ravine]

Rounded to the nearest whole number ofc

[exotic depot]

And this was the BEGGINING of being a vampire

[hasty dome]

totally different situation

I know what you mean

(I think)

[tight stream]

Alr

But go to the chat

[ionic ravine]

Still cant believe Kars had a whole army of these guys

[exotic depot]

130 times the power of a human 😭😭

[earnest cliff]

"an object moves infinitely if there is no hindrance in its path"
like wtf, the air resistance not enough to stop it mid air

[wintry rampart]

so wouldnt he just be able to destroy someone’s skull with just a punch?

[earnest cliff]

how much force DIO exerts doesn't even matter

[ionic ravine]

He split a skull in half from a casual chop

[earnest cliff]

it would just move slower, but move infinitely still

[wintry rampart]

why couldnt he just squish his enemies’ heads then??

[earnest cliff]

UNTIL time stop ends

[ionic ravine]

So yeah he'd undoubtedly crush a skull with a single punch

[exotic depot]

Broke through skull with a flick of his wrist bro dio is a fucking menace

[hasty dome]

well at least joestar blood filled DIO

[ionic ravine]

Yeah easily too

Maybe even before Joestar Blood

[earnest cliff]

bruh no one even talking about what I said, explain, how does a knife stop mid-air in stopped time 😐

[hasty dome]

plot

[earnest cliff]

yeah brilliant

Polunareffu

delete it

[wintry rampart]

dont even show me that fucking disgusting cunt 🤢

[torpid hatch]

Wat

[ionic ravine]

How many newton's does it take to break an arm?

[torpid hatch]

Not sure

[ionic ravine]

P3 DIO did it to some bodyguard who was pretty muscular without even looking at him

[hasty dome]

at the very least 7 perhaps

[earnest cliff]

almost 4000

[earnest cliff]

bruh

thats nothing

[wintry rampart]

like 700-800

[earnest cliff]

u need to rip it apart

[ionic ravine]

So he basically broke his arm ez

[hasty dome]

Yea I meant 7000..

duh

[earnest cliff]

obviously u did

[ionic ravine]

Like he snapped it right in half

[hasty dome]

ofc

[earnest cliff]

I heard it takes 4000 to break femur(longest bone, in the leg)

[earnest cliff]

so it must be close

[ionic ravine]

It just looks like he was just trying to move his hand away

Cause I dont know anyone who could break someone's arm like that

[wintry rampart]

isnt that a motion where he clearly twisted it?

[ionic ravine]

Idk

[wintry rampart]

w Name

[ionic ravine]

???

Oh

Thanks

[earnest cliff]

shush

[ionic ravine]

Same for you

[earnest cliff]

I have such a deep username

It makes so much sense

[wintry rampart]

my username funny

[earnest cliff]

There is actually a reason

I have kept a cringy name so people think in games that im a newbie and then I destroy them

[ionic ravine]

Your pfp is even more deeper

Lmao

[earnest cliff]

it makes me cry sometimes 😢

so deep

[ionic ravine]

That's an edited photo of Arnold Schwarzenegger right?

[wintry rampart]

its deep

[earnest cliff]

yes

[ionic ravine]

Oh alr

[exotic depot]

jo

[earnest cliff]

jo

[wintry rampart]

jo

[hasty dome]

no

[knotty oxide]

jojo we get it

[rose topaz]

jo

[opaque maple]

seph joestar

[teal sundial]

nani?

[tame plaza]

baby polnareff living his dream XD

DAM DEAD CHAT LAST MSG WAS YESTERDAY

[sour crag]

[exotic depot]

** **seph joestar

[opaque maple]

literally a 1 minute difference

[exotic depot]

Ye

[pallid sable]

Why can Dio breathe and speak when he stops time? Doesn't that stop the air as well? If air is stopped then there's no circulation for breathing! Sound doesn't travel if air is frozen either so what's the point of talking?! It's bullshit!

[sour crag]

jojo logic

[wintry rampart]

wont that pause anything that isnt part of dio? like, for example just his clothes stay in place and hes just trapped there.. maybe im stupid correct me if im wrong. so basically dio would need to fight without underwear and any clothes/accessories

[sour crag]

clothes arent heavy though

[earnest cliff]

It might not affect them or anything conected to them

[sour crag]

but food in your stomach would probably be fucked up and you may throw up

[earnest cliff]

So the air near them still functions??? Maybe

[sour crag]

light and sound also function

[earnest cliff]

Long story short: plot convenience

[wintry rampart]

that’d be too deep for jojo so theres some explanation probably

[earnest cliff]

That's the conclusion u would reach after 30 minutes of debating

[sour crag]

fr lmao

[pallid sable]

I can believe that The World kind of puts a protective aura around Dio that lets him move around during the time freeze, but given how close he gets to people during it, it can't possibly be enough for the air around him to still be working.

[wintry rampart]

yh the first part is believable that was my theory too

[sour crag]

"How does time stop work?"
"it just doess lmao" -Araki

[wintry rampart]

yup

[earnest cliff]

based araki

[sour crag]

[earnest cliff]

Virgin JoJo Theorists vs Chad Araki

[civic cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/882207921868517409/920426319328706600/speed-21.gif

[earnest cliff]

Stop

[sour crag]

fr

[wintry rampart]

#memes-and-images

sorry

[earnest cliff]

It does not deserve to go anywhere

Its shitty

[sour crag]

no need to apologize really
its annoying when people post bs in the wrong channels

[earnest cliff]

Tru

[wintry rampart]

i just feel bad because i forgot channels im in and accidentally posted a future characters name

[sour crag]

if you delete it in time its fine ig

[earnest cliff]

you should be ashamed of yourself

jk

[uncut shard]

Кто напишет сообщение после моего тот гей
Удачи

[wintry rampart]

bruh what

[civic cave]

Google translate says: "Who will write a message after my that gay
Good luck"

[sour crag]

me

[sour crag]

oh rip

[sour crag]

this is a English speaking server

[earnest cliff]

Caught in 4K

[sour crag]

lies photo is in 720p

[earnest cliff]

he doing some trolling

[uncut shard]

I'm English too

[earnest cliff]

Don't question the gay jokes

[civic cave]

I'm 英語 too

[pallid sable]

No! That's not enough! Explain this shit!

[sour crag]

it goes bumvrrttt tick tick tick and time stops

[pallid sable]

How does he breathe?!

[hasty dome]

Wgaf

Please refrain from any language but English

This is an English speaking server

[sour crag]

[wintry rampart]

does this mean im gay?

[wintry rampart]

Ok

[hasty dome]

Yes

[uncut shard]

Yes

:)

[wintry rampart]

Yes

[civic cave]

seY

[opaque maple]

si

wait

does that break the rules

[sour crag]

yep and its bannable

[opaque maple]

[pallid sable]

When Avdol shoved Polnareff out of the way that bullet was INCHES from Polnareff's head! For Avdol to do that he had to OUTRUN A BULLET and if he was going at that speed HE should have killed Polnareff on impact because he's a heavy object like a cannonball shooting at him faster than a speeding bullet! What the fuck!

[near star]

@pallid sable, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[opaque maple]

well it wasnt a real bullet

it was a stand bullet

[pallid sable]

From a gun.

[opaque maple]

lemme check what the speed is actually

stand

[pallid sable]

Regardless Avdol was more deadly as a projectile.

[scenic axle]

A stand bullet. Remember, Emperor's bullets are also a stand.

[wintry rampart]

he should have killed polnareff because honestly actually anyone should have killed that goddamn ugly ass fucker

[opaque maple]

b

lol

[scenic axle]

Although Avdol "died" from Hol Horse, I like how Polnareff and Avdol bonded.

Also, Avdol changed.

[earnest cliff]

Tsk tsk

[sour crag]

[opaque maple]

what are you talkin about, its grey avdol, not avdol

[sour crag]

im not avdol I'm... grey.. avdol

[opaque maple]

why ping

[wintry rampart]

WHY

[sour crag]

wtf

[rocky sonnet]

@loud wraith has been muted

[opaque maple]

the mods gonna be on your ass

lol

[hasty dome]

Not having this shit

[sour crag]

i think he is mad because of the English only thing lol

[earnest cliff]

I have been pinged

[hasty dome]

Well now they can’t talk

Look where that got them

[sour crag]

the Russian dude from before pinged some people and mods and started swearing in Russian

[earnest cliff]

He just likes trolling

[sour crag]

or maybe he dumb

[scenic axle]

No matter. He's muted.

He may start leaving the server.

[opaque maple]

[insert goodbye jojo meme here]

[sour crag]

https://c.tenor.com/dl6tWF385QgAAAAM/jojo-goodbye-jojo.gif

[ionic ravine]

DIO is a vampire tho so he doesnt need to breathe

[wintry rampart]

true

[wintry rampart]

GOODBYE JOJO

[median carbon]

as you can see with knives the magnet and bystanders, he can move stuff a bit they just can't move by themselves

[pallid sable]

How is there sound?

And WAIT A MINUTE how DID Dio even talk or breathe when he was reduced to a head?! There were no lungs to allow him to exhale!

[calm urchin]

A partial answer is that he doesn’t need to breathe

He’s undead so no need for oxygenated blood

But for the rest, just enjoy the show

[median carbon]

hes a vampire

the whole point of being a vampire is that they have very high amounts of control over their bodies

he probably did something to his mouth so it mimics vocal cords

[ionic ravine]

Yeah an ability vampires have that most ppl overlook is that they have a medium to high degree of body manipulation

As seen with Wired Beck and Nukesaku

Did Dire talk when he was just a head?

[quartz kestrel]

Yea

[ionic ravine]

Damn

I can understand him using hamon

Cause hamon is created by blood flow, not just oxygen

And there was some blood flowing in his head

So he created a hamon rose with all he had that basically made Dio handicapped for the entire fight

(Being blind in his right eye temporarily)

Dk how he was talking

[pallid sable]

No! It's unscientific!

[ionic ravine]

Some things in JoJo are pretty unscientific

But earlier today we proved JoJo can be stientificall proven

[pallid sable]

Also how does Dio talk for so damn long when he stops time? He said he can only do it for 10 seconds max (by his own perception during the freeze)! I timed it! He uses it for WAY longer than 10 seconds!

[ancient crest]

cinematics

[ionic ravine]

@exotic depot , me and @earnest cliff calculated how strong vampires in JoJo are

[eternal trellis]

bizarre

[pallid sable]

What do you mean?

[ancient crest]

its so they can fit all the dialogue in the scenes. in real time its minutes but in the scenes its supposed to fit

manga time and IRL time dont act the same for obvious reasons

[ionic ravine]

Anime makes the scenes longer than the manga scenes were most likely were to show more detail

[pallid sable]

That's not how time works!

[ionic ravine]

That's why we got the ppl who believe DIO and Jotaro can fly

[ancient crest]

you're comparing real time to fiction.

[pallid sable]

Yeah how do they fly and why doesn't Jotaro ever do it again?! Why does he even need transportation?! He can fly! We've seen him fly!

[ancient crest]

obviously they're gonna act different

[ancient crest]

those are stand jumps

[knotty oxide]

(they joking)

[pallid sable]

But they were flying! Floating in the air!

[ancient crest]

yea i just fell for the bait

god damnit

[pallid sable]

Why did all of D'arby's souls get released when he lost? It can't be because he lost because nobody bet for them. Is it because he passed out? Does everything become undone when he loses consciousness? If so doesn't that means he loses them all every time he goes to sleep?

[near star]

@pallid sable, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

[median carbon]

he got super scared and knew he had lost and just kinda gave up

[iron jewel]

because he lost

well thought he lost

[median carbon]

oh wait

he let them out lol

he went crazy after losing

[exotic depot]

The cum people

[pallid sable]

Heeeeey. The anime cut that part out!

[exotic depot]

Aren’t all people cum people 🤨

[median carbon]

just checked

it didn't

its in the anime

[summer token]

So why can’t Jotaro increase his time stop

Does he not practice?

Or was it just more accessible for Dio since he’s s vampire?

❓❓❓

[median carbon]

only vampires can have longer than 5 seconds

[calm urchin]

He can train to increase his timestop, though we never see it go above 5s

So you can assume that’s his limit

Dio’s a vampire so he gets to be strong

[summer token]

How does he even practice time stopping

He just spams it enough till it starts to increase in time?

[median carbon]

pretty much

[exotic depot]

Jotaro is rusty and doesn’t care about time stop because he is a good person. But actually because plot /j

[median carbon]

#anime-jojokes

[median carbon]

no

[summer token]

Time stopping makes someone a bad person?

Wtf❓

[low torrent]

??????????????????????????

[exotic depot]

Stopping time makes you are dirty no good bad man 😔

[low torrent]

what

[white ingot]

ホウィール・オブ・フォーチュン

Houiiiru obu fohchun

[exotic depot]

Nice

[sinful sapphire]

hi

[quartz kestrel]

i love rewatching avdols death

[white ingot]

Polnareff: Hey guys! Avdol’s alive!
Joseph: yeah duh; HEY LOOK a method of transportation that we haven’t been attacked in yet!
Polnareff: WHAT DO YOU MEAN “YEAH DUH??”

[wintry rampart]

LMAO

[wintry rampart]

racist /j /j/j/j/j/j/j/j/j/j/j/j/j/j

[quartz kestrel]

guys i mean i hate myself and cry every time

[eternal trellis]

dang

[iron jewel]

right

[earnest cliff]

contributing nothing and still getting credit B)

[iron jewel]

what a waste of time

[worthy cliff]

im still wondering how iggy and petshop get their stands

did dio freaking struck an arrow to a bird

[iron jewel]

yes

Dio is dio

he spat on his father's grave

and started gambling at the age of 12

[worthy cliff]

badass gay villain

[iron jewel]

Gay blonde vampire

[spiral kelp]

i thought he was bisexual

[iron jewel]

It's just gay jokes

[gloomy forge]

Well technically it made it seem like he’d have sex with a man if it suited his goals or he needed to

[iron jewel]

I think he's straight

[gloomy forge]

He has a clear preference for women

[iron jewel]

Why would he need to do that?;

[gloomy forge]

Araki said it man

[iron jewel]

How will it benifit his heaven plan

[gloomy forge]

Ez

[iron jewel]

or ruling the world

[spiral kelp]

[iron jewel]

oh yeah money

Getting paid to do it possibly

in a church

[earnest cliff]

An important message from DIO:
||Your mom is ghey ||

[wintry rampart]

No future parts allowed here

[gloomy forge]

Biggest question is

[iron jewel]

Right

[iron jewel]

Nice pfp

[earnest cliff]

thank you

[gloomy forge]

Why did Dio fuck with Polnareff in the stupidest way possible lol

[wintry rampart]

I've never seen the Alessi fight properly

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Rank is now level 25 !

[earnest cliff]

he doing a little bit of trolling

[gloomy forge]

I don’t think there’s a proper way to see it

[iron jewel]

Dio doesn't care about anyone

[spiral kelp]

so he can screw with his mind

[gloomy forge]

Dio cares about some people

[iron jewel]

cap

[worthy cliff]

dio just use woman as his onahole whenever hed need a quick dump

[gloomy forge]

I genuinely think he somewhat cared for Jonathan

In the smallest way

[earnest cliff]

I mean I would do the same, its not fun killing someone directly after they have come a long way beating all your minions

[iron jewel]

Is that why he chopped his head off after he died and took control of his body?

[gloomy forge]

I don’t think all of what he said in Part 1 is bullshit

[worthy cliff]

lmao

[wintry rampart]

DIO cares about Jonathan

[gloomy forge]

Well, it was either that or dying

[iron jewel]

Dio doesn't give a shit

[earnest cliff]

I just hate it when people who care for me do that

[iron jewel]

nah

[gloomy forge]

Besides

[worthy cliff]

dio doesn't care about jonathan

[spiral kelp]

so lots people saw jonathan balls

[gloomy forge]

I’m not saying Dio doesn’t want to kill Jonathan

[near star]

@gloomy forge, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

[wintry rampart]

How are the villains even loyal to DIO

[worthy cliff]

he just care about jonathan body

[iron jewel]

Money

[gloomy forge]

But I do believe he feels a connection between them

Money

[raven lily]

Some just like him or fleshbuds

[iron jewel]

yep

[wintry rampart]

They're like DIO only gave us the meaning of life

[worthy cliff]

he just trying to groom jonathan

[gloomy forge]

Flesh Bud

[earnest cliff]

DAMN THOSE THIGHS 😩

[gloomy forge]

Threat of dying

[iron jewel]

Dio manipulated them

[earnest cliff]

who doesn't want Jonathan's body 😩

[gloomy forge]

Just for shits and giggles

[iron jewel]

lol

[wintry rampart]

Actually DIO recruited Mariah and Midler by seducing them

[worthy cliff]

everyone would

[gloomy forge]

Based

[worthy cliff]

especially his sch||ool||

[earnest cliff]

Mariah even told Joseph that he was no where as close as charming as DIO, so yeah

[gloomy forge]

I like SC, I just wish a lot of the fights had plot reasons

Or the fights were used to build on character

[iron jewel]

Dio sent an entire population

[gloomy forge]

Cause I know the whole “JoJo doesn’t have filler”

But…

[earnest cliff]

one of my least favourite parts for that reason

[gloomy forge]

3 is the closest we get

[iron jewel]

my 3rd fav part

The fights were nice

[raven lily]

SC really did feel like the most “villain of the week” show out of all the other parts

[wintry rampart]

Fun fact: Except N'Doul and Pet Shop, all the other Egyptian god stand users are alive

[gloomy forge]

It’s why I like Part 2 so much

Cause almost every fight is important, and the ones that aren’t

[earnest cliff]

bro there's at least 16 filler eps that don't add almost anything

[worthy cliff]

ndoul

fuck i forgor

who is ndoul

[wintry rampart]

Geb

[worthy cliff]

the blind guy?

[raven lily]

Yea

the blind guy

[earnest cliff]

yes

[worthy cliff]

oh

[gloomy forge]

That’s a big issue I have sort of with Part 5

[worthy cliff]

darby the gambler went insane

[gloomy forge]

With you basically being blue balled

[worthy cliff]

part 5 have barely connection with the part before them

[gloomy forge]

Cause we gotta have this 4 episode fight with one member of the main cast

[wintry rampart]

He was honestly one of the best villain

[earnest cliff]

I mean the 9 egyptian gods somewhat made sense, but they just should have had 1 stand battle for each stand user in the team so that we could get a glimpse of their abilities

[gloomy forge]

Best SC Villain is definitely Dio

[worthy cliff]

yea but again sp is way too op he just beat them tthe shit out

[earnest cliff]

b r u h

[wintry rampart]

Hey you shouldn't talk about future parts here

[earnest cliff]

true

[gloomy forge]

No other part even comes close to Dio’s final battle

[wintry rampart]

Actually the villains were okay, some fights were funny and others were tense af

[gloomy forge]

It’s so good

[earnest cliff]

SDC has the best final fight

[worthy cliff]

part 3 is a fun ride

[earnest cliff]

rest of it is meh (except for maybe like 3-4 arcs)

imo

[wintry rampart]

Iggy vs Pet Shop was one of the best Iggy fights tbh

[gloomy forge]

I like Jotaro

[wintry rampart]

Same he's my 3rd fav

[raven lily]

The battle of egypt arc had some good fights but some I just got bored of

[worthy cliff]

i dislike jotaro tbh

[gloomy forge]

He’s not as stoic and dickish that people make him out to be

Even in Part 3

Especially in the Manga

[wintry rampart]

The funny fights were just okay, but Geb's fight, Horus's fight, D'Arby fights were tense

[earnest cliff]

true, but it kinda made sense according to the plot, there was 0 need to have so many stand battles before that

[gloomy forge]

I like a lot of Part 3’s stand fights

[wintry rampart]

Also Alessi's fight also was just okay

[gloomy forge]

People get on them for lasting too long

[wintry rampart]

Death 13 fight

[gloomy forge]

Ok

That’s bad

[earnest cliff]

anti-climactic

[gloomy forge]

And boring

[earnest cliff]

kid Jotaro is suddenly strong

[worthy cliff]

poopo

[gloomy forge]

Allessi could have been a cool way

To bring back Young Joseph

[wintry rampart]

Justice fight >>>

[earnest cliff]

he was cool as a villain but they just got lucky and won

[worthy cliff]

jotaro is sure iconic

[earnest cliff]

Death 13 was too op

[gloomy forge]

Justice Fight is fun

[wintry rampart]

That fight was bizarre imo

[wintry rampart]

Qtaro Kujo

[gloomy forge]

JoJo characters?

Getting Lucky?

[worthy cliff]

vanilla ice are so badass

[gloomy forge]

Impossible

[earnest cliff]

Oingo Boingo intensifies

[wintry rampart]

The thing was

[gloomy forge]

Strength was so boring

[wintry rampart]

That orangutan was a fucking creep

[worthy cliff]

stats doesn't make sense lol

[gloomy forge]

Nope

[worthy cliff]

try berserk

[wintry rampart]

That pervy orangutan

Forever

[gloomy forge]

Stand Stats be like

C - Comparable to Human

[wintry rampart]

Stand stats are shit

[gloomy forge]

Then have Geb ripping people’s heads off

[worthy cliff]

speed a
durability a

[earnest cliff]

the pervy orangutan was a loli hentai enjoyer

[wintry rampart]

Like for example: Emperor had E in precision

[gloomy forge]

Him and Allessi

[worthy cliff]

araki just randomly type out shit and forgot the stats

[wintry rampart]

Alessi was child enjoyer

[earnest cliff]

trueee, I mean Araki made stand stats much later, much much after sdc was made

[earnest cliff]

Polnareff having the time of his life

[wintry rampart]

Alessi said bullying children was a comfort

[gloomy forge]

Heritage for the Future is fun

[earnest cliff]

Bruh Jotaro just had plot armour against Alessi ngl

[wintry rampart]

Who liked Anubis?

[gloomy forge]

Great celebration of Part 3

[spiral kelp]

he is insane

[near star]

@spiral kelp, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !

[gloomy forge]

Did Anubis work for Dio?

[wintry rampart]

Yes

[gloomy forge]

Or was he just an asshole

[wintry rampart]

That independent sword stand

[gloomy forge]

How the fuck Dio convince Anubis

[earnest cliff]

how the fuck did Dio choose Anubis

hmm s w o r d

[wintry rampart]

Man Anubis did say that DIO chose him

[gloomy forge]

You know

Why didn’t they try taking a Private Jet to Cairo

[earnest cliff]

waittttt, the spw foundation saw 9 people, didn't they

[gloomy forge]

Like it makes sense no commercial flight

[earnest cliff]

how the fuck did they see a person for Anubis

[wintry rampart]

Due to Joseph

[spiral kelp]

DIO: sword i choose

[gloomy forge]

Cause putting other people in danger

Joseph had been on planes before and they didn’t crash

[earnest cliff]

stop lying

[wintry rampart]

Actually they didn't want any plane crash to happen

[earnest cliff]

jk

[spiral kelp]

yea

[wintry rampart]

Did you see the Tower of Gray fight?

[spiral kelp]

they cared the people

[gloomy forge]

Yes?

Hence why I said

Makes sense why they didn’t want a Commercial flight

Which is what they said

[earnest cliff]

how did Joseph know how to fly a plane at the age of 19

[gloomy forge]

Tbh

[wintry rampart]

They didn't want the innocent people to get killed

[gloomy forge]

I know

Hence why I said

For the third time now

[earnest cliff]

The plane could crash somewhere populated by people

[gloomy forge]

I understand why they didn’t want to do a Commercial Flight

[near star]

@gloomy forge, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !

[spiral kelp]

also the real question is how did dio go to Egypt

[gloomy forge]

Plus, they could just go over the Ocean

[earnest cliff]

they would eventually have to go on land

like when landing

[gloomy forge]

Well, if they survived that long

[wintry rampart]

But in the ocean, Dark Blue Moon, Strength existed

[gloomy forge]

Then no enemy stand

[earnest cliff]

SO WHATS EVEN THE USE THEN

[median carbon]

you remember when they went in a submarine

[gloomy forge]

That was a stupid idea

[median carbon]

imagine that but they're in a plane over the ocean instead

[wintry rampart]

High Priestess existed

[median carbon]

bruh

[gloomy forge]

Could Dark Blue Moon ranch that high

Reach*

[earnest cliff]

"Stands are manifestations of your fighting spirits"
Stand of a monkey: A fucking ship

[median carbon]

high priestess

they would have died if they took a plane

[gloomy forge]

Which one that?

[raven lily]

He just wanted a ship 💀

[wintry rampart]

Yea

[earnest cliff]

truee

so he could fap to magazines in peace

[wintry rampart]

His stand energy was insane

[spiral kelp]

and why did dio choose a monkey

[earnest cliff]

that's his fighting spirit

[light aspen]

Dio even chose. Baby

[gloomy forge]

Probably shot on accident

[earnest cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-mmmm-monkey-turtle-kung-fu-panda-gif-17129341

[spiral kelp]

did he go MONKEY

[earnest cliff]

reason: monkey

[spiral kelp]

lol

[wintry rampart]

Mannish Boy

[raven lily]

He was aiming for a human nearby but missed

[wintry rampart]

I hated Forever tbh

[earnest cliff]

m o n k e

[wintry rampart]

Strength was sort of powerful

[earnest cliff]

but its very situational

like you have to get the other stand users on the ship

[wintry rampart]

Yes

[earnest cliff]

otherwise its nothing

[wintry rampart]

Mostly SC stands were just okay

Tower of Gray was pure shit

[spiral kelp]

real question is how did dio get to Egypt

[earnest cliff]

a lot of them were situational

touch the socket, be a magnet

[wintry rampart]

Tower of Gray isn't

[earnest cliff]

How the fuck did Joseph think touching a socket in the middle of a Desert was a good idea

[lament surge]

Ok ik I was negative last time I talked but I gotta say it…

Iggies design at the end of part 3 is ass

We can all agree right?

[earnest cliff]

agreed

[median carbon]

which others

[worthy cliff]

real

[lament surge]

He got a human face 💀

[wintry rampart]

But for Atum and Osiris too you have to agree to play gambling and video games

[earnest cliff]

both the d'arby bros

strength

[wintry rampart]

Even the car stand

[earnest cliff]

death 13 even?

[median carbon]

death 13 not really

[summer token]

Add a boy Alessi

[wintry rampart]

Wheel of Fortune yes

[median carbon]

they can't just not sleep

[spiral kelp]

how did people see the car stand

[median carbon]

wheel of fortune isn't either

it can drive anywhere

[earnest cliff]

the baby would not walk up to them while they sleep, they have to carry the baby with them for it to work

[wintry rampart]

Night time is the best time for Death 13 to work

[summer token]

Baby stand

[earnest cliff]

ez

uhm uhm

[median carbon]

or it just goes to where they are/will be and kills them there

[earnest cliff]

how tho, the baby can't fucking walk or travel on its own

he had to bait them

[wintry rampart]

Wait so which are the situational stands?

[median carbon]

how did it get to where they were the first time

[earnest cliff]

-Mariah's Stand
-D'Arby Bros
-Baby Stando
-M o n k e

[earnest cliff]

he acted being sick

[worthy cliff]

bro mariah fking paralysed

[earnest cliff]

so they would take him to the nearest hospital

[median carbon]

not then

i mean where they took him from

[wintry rampart]

Death 13 not really

[earnest cliff]

what's he gonna do during the day, and how would he approach them without baiting

talking about the user

[median carbon]

get someone else to carry him

[earnest cliff]

😐

that is situational

[median carbon]

bruh what

[earnest cliff]

we talking about like a stand user vs stand user scenario

he's a fucking baby, that's the biggest handicap

much more than being blind or some shit

[spiral kelp]

real question is how did dio go to Egypt

[earnest cliff]

OH ALSO THE SUN

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE MOST SITUATIONAL

[median carbon]

bruh

how

also death 13 isn't a situational stand just a bad user

[earnest cliff]

user needs to make up a set-up for himself so he does not feel the heat

[wintry rampart]

A baby shouldn't have been a stand user tbh

[earnest cliff]

bro it doesn't work half the time

literally

[median carbon]

tf u mean

[earnest cliff]

IT ONLY WORKS AT NIGHT

WHAT THE BABY GONNA DO

[median carbon]

star platinum is situational cause it only works if the person is close

[earnest cliff]

the stand works when its night, that's a situation

[earnest cliff]

bruh, just walk to him

[spiral kelp]

it only works when the person is alseep

[earnest cliff]

but there's no way a baby can do something during the day

[spiral kelp]

asleep

[median carbon]

so that means its a bad user not a situational stand

[earnest cliff]

it still kinda is, since any stand user would be helpless during the day

not just a baby

they would just have ways of escaping probably

[spiral kelp]

the baby tried to kill kakyoin

during the day

[earnest cliff]

could he do anything

be honest

like kakyoin didnt wanna harm the baby

what if he wanted to

and that was only because he was taking a nap during the day

that's kakyoin's bad

[spiral kelp]

at first he didnt be then he knew it was a stand user

[earnest cliff]

BAEBY SUTANDO?!

[spiral kelp]

i do wonder if it was born with it

i mean how did it survive

like it had to have a strong boby

body

[lilac aspen]

you get a free kill everytime your opponent goes to sleep

it don't even have to be night

unless your opponent doesn't sleep, they're vulnerable

[wintry rampart]

Dude is Death 13 situational

No right?

[lilac aspen]

people sleep all the time

unless you're dio i guess

i don't think that guy needs to sleep

[eternal vale]

unless you're me

[wintry rampart]

DIO doesn't sleep, he manipulates

That means even Vanilla Ice doesn't sleep

[lilac aspen]

star platinum overrated

death 13 is ridiculously powerful as well

one of the only stands where you can shut off other people stands

[median carbon]

thank you titoru

[gloomy forge]

Death 13 can’t kill Kars tho

[wintry rampart]

Star Platinum is ofc overrated

[gloomy forge]

so why even bother

Star Platinum is God tier stand

[lilac aspen]

imagine needing to physically remove someone's stand, when you can just spawn them in the dream world without one

[gloomy forge]

But Jotaro absolutely refuses

[wintry rampart]

Hey yk, Hanged Man is also situational

[gloomy forge]

To use it like a smart person