#stardust-crusaders

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distant rivet
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Lemme change back to Pol actually

wintry rampart
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Ok let’s continue

wintry rampart
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Enemy User: losing
enemy user: iT wAS alL pARt oF mY plAN

nocturne roost
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It was all part of his plan.

wintry rampart
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How did Dio even seduced a blind man

ancient kettle
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hes an extremely charismatic speaker

wintry rampart
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Yeah and it’s not like n’doul can’t feel

wintry rampart
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N’doul pleasuring Dio

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

winged crest
honest flare
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Nope.

winged crest
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Yes

honest flare
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He’s just so hot the blind man could sense it baka-kum.

wintry rampart
ancient kettle
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~take me by the hand~

honest flare
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Covid ✋😠

wintry rampart
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fuck covid

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ima do whatever i want

honest flare
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Do you have to wear masks where you live!

wintry rampart
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yeah

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i live in america

honest flare
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Hahah fucking nerd ass bitch ass annasui x jotaro shipper,

wintry rampart
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uyfbgrhjvgfresytdyu

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why must you do thisss

honest flare
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Because Im evil.

wintry rampart
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i don't even fucking ship thaaat

wanton turret
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can you guys stop

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especially you jame

honest flare
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Fine

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Who’s jame?

wintry rampart
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ok

honest flare
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Honestly who the fuck is jame?

wintry rampart
near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

wintry rampart
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yes ik funny overused

steep comet
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sutapurachina
za warudo

wintry rampart
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Mhm

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Dio

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
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It's surprising how quick the manga of Part 3 becomes its more consistent art style that we basically know Part 3 for. Normally it feels like it takes Araki a while to adapt like, halfway through the entire part but for this and maybe part 2 he basically made it look beautiful and iconic pretty early.

wintry rampart
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its weird seeing jotaro smile

bright remnant
wintry rampart
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Although I guess I don't actually dislike how they had him stoic the whole time either

steep comet
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An OiL tAnKeR fOr YoU.

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orororororororororororo

wanton lake
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yes yes yes yes

steep comet
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rodorora daaa
mudamudamudamuda
sutapurachina, za warudo
surprise B1TCH
WRYYYYYYYY
and then DIO's head exploded, definetly

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definetly?
yare yare da-

viscid burrow
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no memes.

steep comet
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1 year ago
its 10 o clock fetch my tanktop I HAVE A DATE
polnareff confuse

split helm
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No meme

pastel talon
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What?

robust linden
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"Jotaro had his smiles removed in the anime!"

bright remnant
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Jotaro smile feels cursed

scarlet lodge
bright remnant
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Wait

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Ok

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Imagine

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Bullying a jojo fan

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And he hits you with the “next your gonna say” line

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And the color pallet changes

onyx garnet
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Thats a sign you are in danger

wintry rampart
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hey guys i got better at making za warudo effects

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

wintry rampart
near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
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Yeah star playtum literally gets stars in his hair and he is charging his star ball

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Its really painful

round hazel
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Is it just me or did the first episode of Part 3 have a slightly different art style than the rest of Part 3? The first episode looked so much better

wintry rampart
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fixed it

low leaf
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can I send an image saying "I don't believe in DIO supermacy" or should that go in #manga-jojokes

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nvm I'm sending it there

robust linden
merry cargo
low leaf
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I haven't even caught up

wintry rampart
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i literally can't find it anywhere

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before you say jotaro's theme i mean this specific version of jotaro's theme

winged crest
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Why is it dub

wintry rampart
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forgive my laziness

winged crest
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Aight

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Also idk what that theme is called sorry

wintry rampart
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it's alright i'll find it eventually

wintry rampart
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VERY MUCH

distant rivet
round hazel
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It just had a slightly more cartoonish feel, specifically the faces

near starBOT
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@round hazel, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

low leaf
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the line art was different too

wintry rampart
honest flare
merry cargo
wintry rampart
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wait wait, so you're telling me kakyoin's first name is noriaki

bleak belfry
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yes

winged crest
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Yes

wintry rampart
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what

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my brain

winged crest
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Noriaki Kakyoin

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Jean is Polnareff's first name

bleak belfry
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jean-pierre

wintry rampart
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i

bleak belfry
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mohammad avdol

wintry rampart
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okay i actually do understand this i'm overreacting

bleak belfry
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lol yea

merry cargo
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kujo jotaro

winged crest
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Kujo is the last name

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Ye ik ur writing it the Japanese way

merry cargo
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yeah ik

near starBOT
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@merry cargo, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

merry cargo
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iggy

low leaf
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yeah ngl I didn't know his name is actually noriaki

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it feels weird to know that now

merry cargo
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yeah it kinda is

wintry rampart
distant rivet
wintry rampart
low leaf
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xd

wide current
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Stand Proud

wide current
scarlet lodge
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imma come out and say it, i ship holly with kakyoin, don't kill me

wintry rampart
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i used to think smokey was anne Facepalm

topaz flume
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Bruh

scarlet lodge
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Bruh

wintry rampart
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indeed

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i want you both to shoot me

merry cargo
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i would get it in her introduction but bruh

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tho i cant blame you

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before i got into jojo i thought avdol was a grown up smokey

wintry rampart
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lmao

merry cargo
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lmao

near starBOT
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@merry cargo, Your Hamon Rank is now level 7 !

topaz flume
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Bruh

merry cargo
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everyone knows oingo is smokey

topaz flume
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Ngl, that's hilarious

merry cargo
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it is

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i am actually not done with part3

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i just finished the oingo boingo episode

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i thought oingo was gonna die there

ancient kettle
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best episode

merry cargo
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its pretty funny how they lost without the crusaders calling out stands

slow sky
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Wait

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Are you the real @wintry rampart

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Thats amazing

topaz flume
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Hes the real 【Jotaro Kujo】やれやれだぜ..#0420

winged crest
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@merry cargo delete those part 4 gifs

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That you sent

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No future part stuff and also sending gifs that are literally the ending of a future part's final fight in a chat where somebody who just finished part 3 could be looking is dickish

slow sky
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OMG

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can you show me 「s t a r p l a t i n u m」

near starBOT
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@slow sky, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

lost saddle
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Mistuh Joesturr

wintry rampart
pastel talon
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Oingo boingo was fire

empty moth
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anne being smokeys grand daughter would be the best thing i could hope for

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lmao

empty moth
worn lava
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Who got closest to beating the crusaders?

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Mainly jotaro

wintry rampart
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probably Midler or ZZ

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maybe Ndoul

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outside DIO ofc

wanton turret
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daniel darby could could since jotaro wagered literally everything

urban rover
merry cargo
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death 13 had a good chance

late breach
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Dio's curse affected Holly only. How so it didn't affect Jotaro, nor Joseph?

merry cargo
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it did

low leaf
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that's how jotaro got star platinum remember

lilac temple
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i just finished stardust crusaders and uh

low leaf
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how was it

lilac temple
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i think im broken

low leaf
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F

lilac temple
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like serioulsy

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mentally cuz like

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kakyoin my baby omg

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and i think i broke my back trying to walk like dio

low leaf
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😔

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I did too

lilac temple
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like seriously my back burns

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why the hell does dio walk like kendall jenner

low leaf
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lmao

winged crest
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Holly is not a person with fighting spirit or the will to fight, so she can't control one because she's just a gentle happy lady

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Joseph and Jotaro can control theirs cuz they do have fighting spirit

late breach
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Okay.

worn lava
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Wouldn’t death 13 ironically have won if he healed Kakyoin right away

wintry rampart
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Huh?

wintry rampart
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but since babies have like 50 iq

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He didn’t

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btw funniest scene in part 3 is prob jotaro becoming stand

late breach
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Have you ever thought of what would the final fight be like if Dio would've already merged with Jonathan's body?

bleak belfry
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part 3-fin

merry cargo
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my favorite scene in part3 is when dio hired a sword

wanton turret
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and just have be left somewhere in hopes someone picks it up

winged crest
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In a place where farmers are

merry cargo
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let alone somebody worthy

winged crest
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An ornate sword is defo getting picked up by a farmer

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"i can sell this!"

wanton turret
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yeah it is, but what if something happened to it before anyone picked it up

merry cargo
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a fucking sword has a stronger fighting spirit than holly

scarlet garden
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wonder how the hiring process for monkey went

merry cargo
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or baby

wanton turret
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dio: yeah just leave the sword there, someone's gonna pick it up... maybe.. hopefully.... make sure to put the sword in a place where nothign will happen to it, just in case

merry cargo
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did he look at mannish boy and go "yes kill those 4 men"

bleak belfry
winged crest
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The sword has no fighting spirit

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The Stand is just still alive in the sword

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The stand user has been dead for 100-s of years

weary turret
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he did not "hire" a sword

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the sword swore loyalty to him

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know your jojo lore smh

merry cargo
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a fucking sword

wanton turret
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Cx he hired a sword

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Why else would the sword swear loyalty to dio if not dio going to the sword first

merry cargo
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imagine hiring an ancient egyption god

bleak belfry
weary turret
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wait you guys think dio actually hired a sword :(

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its not just a meme :(

wanton turret
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We make our own lore

merry cargo
weary turret
wintry rampart
bleak belfry
tribal crane
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Arabic ?

merry cargo
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yes

tribal crane
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Nice

late breach
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Someone pinged me. Who was it?

ancient kettle
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everyone pinged you

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happy birthday

nocturne oasis
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or him punching Rubber Soul while Star Platinum was holding him?

worn lava
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I wonder if rusting killed anubis

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Isn’t anubis someone literally putting their heart and soul into their work

nocturne oasis
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Yeah

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But if you make something like that, you better put the ultra mega fuckin chadica of metals and work into that thing

worn lava
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we can deduce from this kakyoin doesn't have health insurance
@merry cargo it’s a different country, so probably

merry cargo
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by that i mean its literaly written down

worn lava
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Oh

nocturne oasis
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Noriaki Kakyoin

no health insurance lmfao

worn lava
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I don’t know how to read egyptian/arab/whatever that is

nocturne oasis
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To be honest, healthcare wouldn't be too much of a problem to the Crusaders

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SPWF exists,and Joseph is like

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filthy fucking rich

worn lava
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Call me crazy

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But would video games be rendered useless during timestop

nocturne oasis
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I meeaaan,

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We've seen that if someone interacts with something in stopped time, it works

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So probably not

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Legend sais he's still typing till this day

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|| ily bro no homo ||

worn lava
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It looks like you need to directly interact stuff for it to do something in timestop and I don’t think controllers are in direct contact with the console

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Look it took a while to figure out how to put it

nocturne oasis
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I meeaaan,

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You can touch the screen/PS with your foot

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and play the game

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or maybe something like

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"timestop rig"

worn lava
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At the same time that would be a mess to deal with for the game

nocturne oasis
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Yes,but again,

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Imagine messing with people in-game in timestop

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Like, one second they're fighting you and the other they're fucking dead

worn lava
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That would mess up the game so badly

nocturne oasis
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I agree

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Imagine doing that in tournaments lmao

worn lava
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Would they be desynced

nocturne oasis
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Not blatantly just

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Y'know

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messing around

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pushing people around ever so slightly

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Or maybe,

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if you're a psycho

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put someones head in place of their monitor

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and watch everyone scream in terror

merry cargo
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but magnets work during timestop

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would electricity also work?

bleak belfry
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magnets dont work during timestop

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
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Because he should of know

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That magnets don’t work during timestop

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Then again dio isn’t the type of person to trust it

merry cargo
wintry rampart
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DIO is interacting with it, so it works

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otherwise the magnets were a ploy

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THOUGH since Jotaro can move in stopped time, maybe the magnets WERE working to begin with because Jotaro was interacting with the one?

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No matter what, DIO was tricked

bleak belfry
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He was just twitching his fingers to gauge how much he could move in time stop

merry cargo
wintry rampart
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did you ever notice how the DIO fight in 3 is kinda just a longer Straights fight from 2

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they ruin this store front and break a bunch of glass, ends on a bridge, fight is just some vampire with a fancy power they're eager to use and Jojo outwits him using modern tricks

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and Jotaro doesn't even start fighting DIO until like 10 chapters into the arc

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so technically his fight only lasts 8

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thats only 3 more than Straights

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is that all DIO is really worth? 3 more chapters than Straights

eager solstice
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At least Joseph pulled the Your Next Line is joke on Straizo.

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And also did the nigerundayo Smokey.

wintry rampart
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Im just saying from a certain perspective, Jotaro's story ends where Joseph's just started

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OMG and people still reject the foreshadowing too despite that

winged crest
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Which foreshadowing is being rejected

wintry rampart
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I think foreshadowing was the wrong word

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But Im talking about DIO and The World's durability dropping when he became one with Jonathan

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because, as we know, a vampire with a body that can breathe ripple can do so to kill itself and its not like Dio would know what that feels like

robust linden
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Joseph fought a vampire that didn't even fully explore his own abilities while Jotaro had to fight a vampire with an OP stand that practiced and perfected time stop.

wintry rampart
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and then fell for a magnet gag

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A+ DIO

merry cargo
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also joseph was casually carrying gernades and a tommy gun on him

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for some reason

wintry rampart
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he knew Straights was coming

robust linden
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And Straizo got tricked by a mirror

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🗿

merry cargo
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and joseph got tricked by a mirror in part 3

eager solstice
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That moment when young Joseph got a Tommy Gun out of his a-

robust linden
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Then fell for countless Joseph tricks throughout the fight. Somehow, Straizo failed to evade getting grenades snuck under his scarf.

wintry rampart
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DIO fell for "play dead" like a bear

eager solstice
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If you guys didn't realize.

wintry rampart
eager solstice
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Jonathan is the only Joestar that got called JoJo by DIO, that means Dio had respect to him even though they were enemies.

merry cargo
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joseph and polnareff fell for oingos disguise

wintry rampart
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they grew up together

robust linden
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Ey man, that play dead trick was actually really good. Especially when Jotaro stopped his own heart to get it across. That trick was more reasonable than somehow getting grenades snuck on you.

wintry rampart
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Jojo is like a cute nickname

eager solstice
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Yeah, but basically almost every Joestar gets called JoJo.

wintry rampart
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not really

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most dont

wintry rampart
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Joseph kinda just makes the things happen

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he's just constantly slight of handing shit

merry cargo
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joseph tricked kars

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so yeah he is pretty smart

wintry rampart
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Joseph tricks everyone

eager solstice
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Kars used Lisa Lisa as a guitar-

merry cargo
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even kars has a silly side

eager solstice
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win wi win wi wi win

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Anyone remembers the sound The World made while stopping time?

wintry rampart
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probably not the same one, and Cars was just at the end of it in that situation

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He went crazy

eager solstice
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Every JoJo main antagonist goes crazy at the end.

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Dio: setting place on fire
Kars: using Lisa Lisa as a guitar and following Joseph to a volcano
DIO: repeating that he's Dio
Kira: talking about how he got excited for seeing Mona Lisa's hands.
Diavolo: death

wintry rampart
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I dont think Diavolo really went any crazier than he was already

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uh oh

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we cant talk about that though

eager solstice
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Diavolo: Hi- dies

winged crest
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He doesn't know how to

bright remnant
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Wasnt Kars pinned by the airplane into the volcano?

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By Stroheim

wintry rampart
eager solstice
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😳

wintry rampart
winged crest
wintry rampart
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How do you obtain HAMON?

wintry rampart
bright remnant
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Breath

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The anime

wintry rampart
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are you talking about the animato

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on

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oh

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luckily I still have 2 parts

bright remnant
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To finish watching?

wintry rampart
bright remnant
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Polnareff

wintry rampart
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“To beat me you must approach me”

winged crest
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He'd die instantly

wintry rampart
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I dont know, straights is a hamon master so its only natural he'd make it as quick as he did

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DIO just dropped in durability to the point where he popped into a blood fountain

winged crest
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Eh?

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Hamon melts vampires, hamon inside a vampire insta kills them, as seen by Straizo

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DIO does not know hamon breathing cuz nobody could teach him that nor would he want to learn because Hamon for vampire = bad

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DIO's durability didn't drop Jotaro busted holes in the world several times

wintry rampart
lucid geyser
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araki rlly should have stuck to iggy's old design

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he looks so weird with a human face now

nocturne oasis
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I mean, if he started off with a human face it wouldnt be AS weird

winged crest
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Araki can't draw dogs for shit

nocturne oasis
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SO THATS WHY EVERY DOG IN THE SERIES IS DEAD

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IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

winged crest
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And if the dog is a main character who he's drying to show the characters thoughts n stuff a human face works better

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Also nah Araki loves dogs he has villains kill em cuz that makes us hate the villains more

nocturne oasis
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A human face can convey more emotions than a dog face

nocturne oasis
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Ngl

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The Fool is one of the best defensive stands ever

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The damage it gets isnt reflected to the user, and its s a n d

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And its most likely visible to non stand users

winged crest
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it's great for offence too

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Cut Kenny G's fucking chest open

lucid geyser
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it just looks weird to see a dog's face replaced by a human like face

nocturne oasis
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SDC has some of the most OP stands

lucid geyser
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it makes me uncomfortable

wintry rampart
winged crest
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it didn't

wintry rampart
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It did

nocturne oasis
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DIO was throwing hands as fast as a stand while he was hitting the road roller

winged crest
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When the fuck did he fail to trade blows by hand

quick mural
nocturne oasis
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Also, he punched the emerald splash away

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We clearly saw Jotaro struggle to deflect it, but DIO just

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Slaps it away

winged crest
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Not slaps

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Flicks

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With a finger

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And later smacks away

wintry rampart
winged crest
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This is not the first time the world gets fucked up by Star Platinum's punches

wintry rampart
nocturne oasis
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I think youre forgetting that Star Platinum is the physically strongest stand in jojo

winged crest
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Yes

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And Jotaro who holds back usually

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Was going fucking ham

nocturne oasis
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Getting fucked by SP doesnt mean youre weak

winged crest
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Full power

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And your theory is nonsense

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Cuz

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DIO

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Doesn't

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know

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Hamon

nocturne oasis
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DIO held up quite well

winged crest
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If he used it, he'd die, instantly

wintry rampart
nocturne oasis
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Vampire + Hamon = bad idea

wintry rampart
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unless you forgot

scarlet lodge
winged crest
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yes

quick mural
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Ham and the word on

winged crest
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So he'd die

wintry rampart
winged crest
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.......

wintry rampart
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I dunno why you have to bend the facts

winged crest
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HE wasn't hamon breathing

clever coral
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Straizo

winged crest
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The whole time

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what the fuck man

clever coral
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lmao

nocturne oasis
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Did we see Straitz use it WHILE he was a vampire?

winged crest
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We didn't

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Cuz he didn't

nocturne oasis
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DIO using it as a vampire would off him

quick mural
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Nah man he was just breathing

winged crest
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When we saw him use it

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He died instantly

lucid geyser
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dio was basically worn out

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his legs were broken n shit

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thats why the last punch was fatal while earlier punches were not

winged crest
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Straizo wanted to life forever, using hamon would kill him, so he wasn't using hamon breathing

wintry rampart
winged crest
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Cuz you know it's something you can decide not to do

wintry rampart
nocturne oasis
wintry rampart
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yeah he did

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and so did DIO

winged crest
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DIO

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WAsn't using hamon

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for fuck

wintry rampart
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not willingly

lucid geyser
winged crest
lucid geyser
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after that he got beaten up by jotaro with his legs all broken n shit

wintry rampart
lucid geyser
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oh right

wintry rampart
winged crest
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Jonathan had potential for hamon before Zeppeli tought him

winged crest
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He wouldn't

near starBOT
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@clever coral, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

winged crest
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Use it

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Cuz he can't

wintry rampart
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Jonathan had his diaphragm adjusted, actually

winged crest
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It's a specific fucking way of breathing that needs to be tought

wintry rampart
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taught*

winged crest
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Just having a body that is compatible with hamon does not mean you just use it

wintry rampart
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Joseph did that

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without training

winged crest
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And if DIO did

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He'd be dead

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100 times

wintry rampart
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well, he is

winged crest
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Before Jotaro got to egypt

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Because

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Vampires

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Can't

wintry rampart
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cuz he became one with Jonathan like an idiot

winged crest
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Have

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Hamon

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In

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them

nocturne oasis
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Hes dead because his stand was destroyed

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Not because he did sunlight kung fu

wintry rampart
clever coral
winged crest
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He was fucked if he didn't drain Joseph

wintry rampart
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He didnt become one with Jonathan until the end of 3

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like did you forget that

clever coral
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Part 3?

wintry rampart
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yes, part 3

winged crest
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Cringe is talking about Joseph

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Not DIO

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Because DIO doesn't use hamon

clever coral
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i am?

winged crest
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Are you not?

wintry rampart
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lmao

clever coral
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wait who are we talking about again

wintry rampart
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LMAO

quick mural
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Mood.

winged crest
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DIO not using hamon cuz he can't cuz he doesn't know it and also would die instantly if he was

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He'd explode

clever coral
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yeah that makes sense

winged crest
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He wouldn't keep being alive

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For any more of the fight

wintry rampart
#

then why did his durability drop

winged crest
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it

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fucking

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Didn't

wintry rampart
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It did

winged crest
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Jotaro

wintry rampart
#

visibly

winged crest
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Angrier

wintry rampart
#

on page

winged crest
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And angrier

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Punching

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Harder

clever coral
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didn't jotaro punch the leg that was injured previously?

winged crest
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And harder

clever coral
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or no?

wintry rampart
#

lmao thats what you really believe?

nocturne oasis
#

Oh and,

DIO very much could've tanked that blow if it was his body and not his stand that was struck.

DIO got his head caved in by a punch and had holes busted into him.

He got his 'weak' side hit, and it was already established that your stand dies = you die

wintry rampart
#

You just take Jotaro's word for it?

winged crest
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Well you are pulling a headcanon out of your ass

nocturne oasis
#

The World exploded, so did DIO

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
#

I know its popular to undermind the way Araki tells a story here

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but its obvious

nocturne oasis
winged crest
#

I have the cool collected guy who held back for most of part 3 for mostly any enemy he fought who just had his friends killed and went all out

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
nocturne oasis
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Jotaro wasnt looking to cap DIO at the start, and he definitely wasnt as pissed as he was then

wintry rampart
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What?

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Are you telling me Jotaro was holding back at first?

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Like Goku?

clever coral
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:/

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I really doubt that

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the reason he went on his bizarre adventure was to kill DIO to save his mom

nocturne oasis
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No, but Im telling you that anger and adrenaline boosts strength

wintry rampart
#

so Jotaro is the hulk

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I dunno, I think its pretty clear why DIO lost

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and its because hes a jackass

winged crest
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Also let's not forget that after half the fight Jotaro witnessed Polnareff get fucked, possibly assuming he died, and watched his grandpa "die"

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So ofc he'd want to shread DIO even more

nocturne oasis
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Oh yeah because adrenaline is a supernatural hormone that was invented bt stan lee

wintry rampart
#

thats nice, does Jotaro have a super power that increases his strength through anger?

winged crest
#

...

wintry rampart
#

I dont recall that being established

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I do remember hamon breathing destroying a vampire from within being established

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in a very similar fight

nocturne oasis
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No but the human body works 'better' while youre fueled by adrenaline

clever coral
#

bruh

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if you punch a wall when you're just vibing

wintry rampart
#

💁‍♂️

clever coral
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you're not gonna punch it as hard if you were really pissed off

wintry rampart
#

you'd still be punching a wall

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and you'd break your hand

clever coral
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i used the wall as an example

quick mural
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But it depends on the power of the punch, it would still break but would still cause damage to the wall. If you were just vibing you'd have no effect on that same wall.

winged crest
#

Jotaro vs mostly anybody, beats the shit out of them

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But doesn't kill em

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Jotaro vs DIO

wintry rampart
#

he killed the fake captain

robust linden
#

Are people really saying DIO's durability dropped? Tf?

winged crest
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I will kill you you vampire motherufcker

clever coral
#

my point is, if you punch something really hard if you're at a normal mood, you wouldn't punch it as hard if you were really pissed off and punched the wall at full strength

winged crest
robust linden
#

Jotaro literally punched through the World several times

winged crest
#

Only him

wintry rampart
#

traded direct blows

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it isnt only me who thinks so tho

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Ive had this discussion before

robust linden
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Are we forgetting that Star Platinum donuted The World? Then broke the stand's fist entirely even when DIO was at his full high?

clever coral
#

nice

robust linden
#

That's cringe

nocturne oasis
#

Jotaro was punching flesh, not a wall. And in most cases, your brain has a cap on your muscles so you dont shred them. A 16 year old girl lifted a truck in a situation of panic to save her dad from under it.I can see a superhuman ghost blowing someones hand in a similar situation.

clever coral
#

lmao

wintry rampart
winged crest
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No

wintry rampart
#

before then The World's fists did not break

winged crest
#

It donuted the world before

clever coral
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what is full high dio

clever coral
#

are you talking about when he took his jacket off?

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Oh

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yeah that

wintry rampart
#

SP being able to punch through The World's chest by surprise doesnt really matter

robust linden
nocturne oasis
robust linden
nocturne oasis
#

TW wasnt invincible before DIO sucked joseph

wintry rampart
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And? The World could trade direct blows with Star Platinum and not lose his hands before

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thats what changed

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So it doesnt matter

nocturne oasis
#

TW isnt invincible. It can break, and DIO might have punched with less strength and speed than SP at the time

wintry rampart
#

Why would he? He was crazy high

nocturne oasis
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Which is likely since that was the angriest eeve seen Jotaro

wintry rampart
#

I mean, Jotaro doesnt actually get angry that often so yea

robust linden
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Simple. Jotaro had full anger and bloodlust, so he concentrated all of Star Platinum's ridiculous strength that has been shown to donut The World... into one blow

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It wasn't some bullshit hamon thing

winged crest
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That DIO can't do

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Or he'd die

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Instantly

wintry rampart
#

nah, his durability dropped due to his complete link with Jonathan

winged crest
#

And explode as soon as he drained Joseph

robust linden
winged crest
#

Durability dropped

wintry rampart
#

headcanon is when you try to tell me Jotaro gets magic strong off anger

robust linden
#

Ironically DIO would be at his BEST due to having Jonathan's body. His time stop literally increased

wintry rampart
#

and yet his fists broke and he died

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so I guess he wasnt at his best

winged crest
#

Jotaro was stronger because of anger, because he wasn't holding back

quick mural
winged crest
#

Like he usually is

nocturne oasis
wintry rampart
clever coral
nocturne oasis
#

Do you know hiw panic fucking works?

wintry rampart
#

panic?

quick mural
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Apparently not

robust linden
wintry rampart
#

I dont think Jotaro was in a panic

winged crest
wintry rampart
clever coral
#

Yes

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🤠

robust linden
nocturne oasis
#

His grandpa died, he almost died, he thought Polnareff died, and Kakyoin was dead

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Oh yeah, he doesnt panic

wintry rampart
#

I sense an incoming mute though because Im going to tell you that part 3 is over your head if you dont understand this

nocturne oasis
#

Why eould he?

wintry rampart
#

sorry

winged crest
#

Star Plat one of the most physically strong stands in parts 3-6 if let lose to hit with all it's might

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DIO died cuz hamon

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Great logic

wintry rampart
#

DIO died cuz stupid

winged crest
#

Eh?

wintry rampart
#

He's a dummy

clever coral
near starBOT
#

@clever coral, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

robust linden
#

Star Platinum when concentrating on full bloodlust can tear through The World. Star Platinum is stronger than The World. Jotaro wasn't at full bloodlust. Compare how Jotaro walked over to DIO to Jotaro literally RUNNING at DIO.

wintry rampart
#

"concentrating on full bloodlust" I remember when Jotaro was thinking that lol

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"I need to concentrate on full bloodlust"

robust linden
#

He does say himself that he needs one hit to kill him

wintry rampart
#

its like going super saiyan

robust linden
#

No

clever coral
#

not at all

nocturne oasis
#

Dude

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Adrenaline = faster and most likely stronger

clever coral
#

goku doesn't have to be angry to transform he just has to be kind of serious

robust linden
#

You and your concedencing attitude is why discussion with you is insufferable

robust linden
#

Deflection, I didn't directly bring up past behavior and false equivalences ]

nocturne oasis
#

Id rather argue with Lisette than with you lmfao. She can at least admit when shes wrong

wintry rampart
#

Im not wrong tho

clever coral
#

You are.

wintry rampart
#

Im not

nocturne oasis
#

Jonathan hadnt used hamon for 100 years because hes

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Yknow

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Dead

wintry rampart
#

compelling

robust linden
#

DIO did not die to hamon, you're literally wrong about that

wintry rampart
#

he was weakened by it

robust linden
#

He would be DEAD

wintry rampart
#

and Jotaro made him a blood fountain

grizzled linden
#

Yeah, cause his stand died

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So he died

wintry rampart
#

sure did

grizzled linden
#

Ye

nocturne oasis
#

Oh, yeah, he flung a steam roller towards a high schooler with no effort

wintry rampart
#

well, sorta, they still needed to fry him

nocturne oasis
#

But he got weaker

wintry rampart
#

He did

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Lol

grizzled linden
#

Why do you think this is true Fred?

wintry rampart
#

its established and explains why The World's durability dropped

robust linden
#

Source?

grizzled linden
#

Wait, it dropped?

near starBOT
#

@grizzled linden, Your Hamon Rank is now level 18 !

winged crest
#

If DIO uses Hamon without realising as soon as he becomes one with Jonathan he will do a Straizo and explode as soon as he becomes one with him

grizzled linden
#

When did it drop?

nocturne oasis
#

He kept up with his own stand while punching the steam roller.

I dont remember 'jacket DIO' doing that

wintry rampart
#

made my argument

#

its still standing

wintry rampart
clever coral
#

Oh yeah

robust linden
#

Post the direct stuff that showed the durability drop

wintry rampart
#

and then theres after drinking Joseph

nocturne oasis
#

None of these are single, concentrated punches to TW's hands, except that last one

#

Jotaro was trying to beat the shit out of DIO in both, yes

#

But he wasnt going for one shot blows until he sucked Joseph

winged crest
wintry rampart
#

they traded hundreds of unseen blows tho

robust linden
#

So instead of stand stats or dialogue, we're going off of assumptions? Because we can also assume that it was Jotaro being more accurate and stronger in calculative desire to fucking murder DIO in this state.

clever coral
#

let's not forget that wounds make your body weaker obviously

wintry rampart
#

you say that like stand stats are reliable

#

((Hey where are the templates))

robust linden
clever coral
#

not immediatley

wintry rampart
#

hold on tho, what are The World's stats

clever coral
#

when jotaro kicked dio's leg when he stopped time

#

his leg was still injured at the last clash between jotaro and dio

nocturne oasis
#

A in everything except range, precision and potential

#

It has a B in precision, while SP has an A

robust linden
wintry rampart
#

but then there's the Hol Horse situation

#

where Precision seems to be based off Hol's aim

clever coral
#

also i just realized star platinum punches the world's hand in the manga but punches his leg in the anime

wintry rampart
#

no no

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its both

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He punches the leg later

#

thats when this happens

winged crest
#

DIO cracked cuz The World cracked

#

Not Hamon

wintry rampart
#

his durability dropped due to his link with Jonathan

#

cuz he stupid

#

big stupid

winged crest
#

Surviving = stupidity

wintry rampart
#

you dont get dumber

winged crest
#

Good to know

clever coral
#

my bad

wintry rampart
#

He could have survived with ANYONE'S body

#

and avoided this fate

#

so uh

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stupid as fuck

#

But no, has to be Jonathan. my adversary, my rival, my brother, etc

clever coral
#

because his body is stronk

#

he wouldn't take some random humans body

wintry rampart
#

guess not

#

lmao

clever coral
#

lmao

wintry rampart
#

if he took some random dude's body it would have conformed to Dio eventually

#

like ACDC claimed his arm would fill out

winged crest
#

Wow what a fool to become one with Jonathan's body

#

Look at the guy who's stupid for surviving

wintry rampart
#

really fucking dumb

#

but he made the mistake 100 years ago

#

BUT he could have fixed it

winged crest
#

It's only a mistake in your headcanon

clever coral
#

if he wasn't on a burning ship yeah probably

wintry rampart
#

not even

#

its a mistake without what Im saying

winged crest
#

No it isn't

wintry rampart
#

if he didnt connect himself to Jonathan, Jotaro and Joseph dont get stands and never show up

#

Dio dumb

robust linden
#

Then we don't have an engaging story. And how would DIO know that the arrow connects to bloodlines?

#

That is hindsight 20/20

clever coral
#

but at the same time dio hadn't taken anyone's body before he can't just realize that he can switch to a less weaker body to survive a fight with his nemesis' grandson's grandson he didn't even know existed

winged crest
#

And how the fuck would he know that anybody is getting off that boat

#

Nobody was supposed to get off the boat

#

He was gonna kill everyone

wintry rampart
#

he could have never gotten on the boat

winged crest
#

And he almost bloody well did

winged crest
#

Why

wintry rampart
#

he could have vanished

#

taken w/e loser corpse, make it his own, hide and grow in power

#

then fight Jonathan again

winged crest
#

And

clever coral
#

bruh dio can't predict the future

winged crest
#

Lose....

wintry rampart
#

would he tho?

#

"cant predict the future" isnt an excuse for a poor plan

winged crest
#

........

#

The plan worked

#

He won

clever coral
#

you're acting like he knew his plan to take jonathan's body wouldn't work out 100 years later in a fight with a person he didn't know existed

wintry rampart
#

it didnt tho

#

he's dead

winged crest
#

He still won

#

In part 1

clever coral
#

and his plan wasn't to stay underwater for 100 years

winged crest
#

His plan worked

wintry rampart
#

not even ||part 6 spoilers|| got what he wanted ultimately

nocturne oasis
#

He killed his enemy

winged crest
#

He got a new body

clever coral
#

he was just picked up from the ocean

nocturne oasis
#

He won

winged crest
#

He beat his enemy

quick mural
#

But his objective was to kill Jonathan. It was his plan and won.

wintry rampart
#

100 years sealed underwater is not a win

winged crest
#

It is

#

When you are

#

A vampire

#

Who can't age

quick mural
#

He's a vampire

robust linden
#

Getting Jonathan while he was alone on a secluded boat away from any other allies was smart as hell though. Because DIO succeeded in getting Jonathan's body. He killed him and eventually got out of the sea. It wasn't the most ideal win, but he did win

winged crest
#

Time means nothing

wintry rampart
#

and he still loses when he wakes up for 4 years and dies anyway

#

because his plan was stupid

clever coral
wintry rampart
#

and got him killed

robust linden
#

Hindsight is 20/20

wintry rampart
#

"cant see the future" is no excuse

winged crest
#

But he can't

clever coral
#

yes

#

it is

wintry rampart
#

he's supposed to be smart

robust linden
#

DIO literally could not have known that the arrow would effect his body's bloodline

winged crest
#

He is

clever coral
#

he didn't know jotaro would even be born

wintry rampart
#

or at least Dio THINKS he's smart

winged crest
#

If he wasn't smart Jonathan would WIN

wintry rampart
#

but he isnt when the height of his guile is poison

nocturne oasis
#

How was he supposed to know that the body would be a detriment in a fight with a highschooler?

wintry rampart
#

hey, how about this

#

DIO feels the joestars watching him, coming for him, so he abandons the body, gets a new one and leaves Egypt

#

big brain move

clever coral
#

f e e l s

#

magic

nocturne oasis
#

'I feel like im being watched, time to kill an old man and a highschooler across the world'

clever coral
#

also he was confident in jonathan's body

#

he thought he would be able to kill them

#

all of them

wintry rampart
#

guess that was stupid of him, huh?

clever coral
#

which he almost did

robust linden
#

He... would be in a worse spot. Since he'd have to start all over again, he'd still have to have blood and time for his new body.

nocturne oasis
#

He could STOP TIME

#

STOP TIME

wintry rampart
#

he wouldnt need specific blood

nocturne oasis
#

He had every reason to believe he could kill them, dude

#

He could, I say this again,

#

STOP TIME

wintry rampart
#

they made it all the way to Egypt and killed Ice

#

Dio woulda been shitting his pants if he werent a buffoon

nocturne oasis
#

Last time I checked, Ice couldnt leave them defenseless for multiple seconds while he mutilated them

wintry rampart
#

not sure what you mean

nocturne oasis
#

STOPPING TIME

wintry rampart
#

oh ok

#

Cream can just eat you in 1 bite tho

#

and he killed more characters than DIO did

#

so

nocturne oasis
#

Yes, but you can avoid it

wintry rampart
#

Cream is invisible most of the time

nocturne oasis
#

You can outsmart ice

wintry rampart
#

after someone is already dead

#

like Avdol

nocturne oasis
#

You cant outsmart SHIT if you cant move

winged crest
wintry rampart
#

and then he fights Jotaro, and Jotaro can move

#

whoops

wintry rampart
winged crest
#

He says to Ice, "you are so lucky you have your own body, it's instantly compatible"

wintry rampart
#

at least not easily through the "force" of blood

nocturne oasis
#

If he did, Id agree

#

But he pretty much didnt

robust linden
#

It'd only delay the inevitable. It made sense why him with a presumably invincible power would choose to face the thorn in his side rather than run from it. Running from it would completely ruin DIO's plan of world domination.

nocturne oasis
#

DIO was the strongest stand user on Earth before Jotaro

wintry rampart
#

How so

robust linden
#

DIO only found out that Jotaro was a legitimate threat to him when it was too late

nocturne oasis
#

He had every reason to underestimate them

wintry rampart
#

The Pucci plan seems like it still works without the Joestars involved imo

#

just let the grudge die

nocturne oasis
#

Theyre still a potential threat

#

And DIO wouldnt want that

wintry rampart
winged crest
#

As if him letting it die

#

Would make them let it die

wintry rampart
#

If DIO let the grudge die it'd be so much harder for him to be found

#

and they'd have no real reason to be looking for him

#

Holly is not in danger

#

they dont even know he's present

nocturne oasis
#

Jotaro and co came to DIO. DIO didmt chase them.

winged crest
#

They already know

wintry rampart
#

but if this is during 3, it'd be simple to grab a new body and leave Egypt

winged crest
#

If he is getting a new body like you say after he sees they are coming for him, they already know

wintry rampart
#

and now the protagonists waste all this time getting to Egypt for nothing

#

and maybe Holly recovers

clever coral
#

m a y b e

winged crest
#

And just the fact he put Jotaro's mom in danger, well Jotaro is coming to fuck that bastard up at least

robust linden
#

"and maybe Holly recovers" lol

near starBOT
#

@robust linden, Your Hamon Rank is now level 15 !

wintry rampart
clever coral
#

yes

winged crest
#

How do they waste time

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
#

thats like, the current point

robust linden
#

She cannot handle a stand

#

Holly would still die

wintry rampart
#

a stand isnt being forcibly awakened anymore if Jonathan's corpse is just a corpse again

robust linden
#

It makes no sense for him TO hide. The Joestars have consistently proven to DIO that they've prevailed against all odds. So it makes sense for DIO to snuff the bloodline here and there, to rip the band aid off immediately

wintry rampart
#

Actually the whole "prevailing against all odds" thing should make him wanna hide

#

logically

winged crest
#

No it shouldn't

clever coral
near starBOT
#

@clever coral, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

winged crest
#

He has the strongest stand in the world

nocturne oasis
#

A l s o, DIO can stop time. He had every reason to believe that he could beat them

wintry rampart
winged crest
#

to his current understanding

wintry rampart
#

who is effecting Holly via bloodline

clever coral
robust linden
#

Killing DIO =/= a random disconnection could randomly save the day

winged crest
#

To his understanding until he fought Jotaro his ability reigns over all stands

#

Cuz it does

wintry rampart
winged crest
#

Because time stop is busted

clever coral
winged crest
#

And he could trample them all easily if it wasn't for Jotaro

#

Which he couldn't know

wintry rampart
#

smh

robust linden
#

He hid enough, DIO developed the most powerful stand ability in the world. Him utilizing it to remove the thorn on his side is smart.

robust linden
wintry rampart
#

Thats just the way it be right now

nocturne oasis
#

He didnt know that Jotaro could stop time

#

He had reason to underestimate them

#

He had reason to be overconfident

wintry rampart
#

The D in Dio

#

stands for dummy

clever coral
#

no

winged crest
#

It doesn't

clever coral
#

he was actually very smart

#

in his plan

winged crest
#

If he was dumb he couldn't gather all those bastards who server him

wintry rampart
#

The I stands for imbecile

clever coral
#

jotaro stopping time couldn't have been predicted

robust linden
#

Smarter than given credit for, but of course its Fred

winged crest
#

The motherfucker has a whole ass cult

clever coral
#

lmao

wintry rampart
#

The O stands for obese

winged crest
#

I don't think a dumb motherfucker can run a cult

wintry rampart
#

because his ego is obese

nocturne oasis
#

The D in DIO stands for 'Stop pretending that he knew Jotaro could stop time and underestimated him regardless'

winged crest
#

OFC IT IS

wintry rampart
clever coral
#

let's not forget that he expected his assassins to finish off the joestars long before they were even in a mile radius of him

wintry rampart
#

plz go on

winged crest
#

DIO's ego is massive cuz he's a fucking VAMPIRE with the strongest stand ability in the fucking world

nocturne oasis
#

Smart is glorification now

winged crest
#

To lead a cult you have to be smart enough to trick/misslead people into your cult

wintry rampart
#

DIO has mind control bugs

winged crest
#

....

wintry rampart
#

so

robust linden
#

"Being smart to lead people? So you're glorifying cult leaders?" -Fred and his 10/10 logic.

wintry rampart
#

not much thinking required

clever coral
#

m i n d c o n t r o l b u g s

winged crest
#

He used them on 2 people in part 3