stardust-crusaders

[bleak belfry]

well yea i think most jojo fans on the internet got dios appearance probably spoiled for them in part 3

[low leaf]

that happened to me 😔

why I even got into jojo was because of the memes

[lucid geyser]

i wasnt spoiled

bc i saw the anime before it became as big as it is now

[topaz flume]

Bruh

[distant rivet]

I’m so lucky it didn’t happen to me. I got everything Part 6+ spoiled for me tho

[near star]

@distant rivet, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[bleak belfry]

i have had a lot of parts spoiled for me cuz of my addictive meme habits

[bright remnant]

I got spoiled cuz i like p2 the best

[topaz flume]

Bruh

[sand anvil]

what

[winged crest]

VS's friend was a cockhead, and cuz VS liked part 2 and Joseph the best their friend told them everywhere that happens from part 4-8

[sand anvil]

oh

[bright remnant]

Yeah

I was like 2 ep away from finishing p4

He flat out told me how it ended

Thats what pissed me off the most

[lucid geyser]

that's just shitty

something tells me that he does other shitty stuff too

[bright remnant]

Yeah

But

Best not to get into that stuff

[lucid geyser]

is he still your friend

[bright remnant]

No

He ended up ditching me

[lucid geyser]

damn

u should have ditched him tho

[bright remnant]

Yeah Im not sure why I kept going back to him

[lucid geyser]

well, at least you have learned from that experience

you now know when it's time to ditch someone

[bright remnant]

Yeah

[wintry rampart]

So, to people who hate Part 3: is the very slow pacing your main gripe with it? Would it be a great part in your opinion if the pacing was fixed, or would it still be "meh"?

[lucid geyser]

oi a gintama fan

i liked part 3

but it was more episodic than the other parts, which is probably part of the reason why some people didn't enjoy it

[past sail]

I love it but it I think a lot of people have a problem with Jotaro

[topaz flume]

Probably his stoicness

[grizzled linden]

I would say a big problem with part 3 is the fact allot can just be cut without having ANY effect on the overall narrative besides "oh, we dont get to see a card". I think it would be allot better if larger groups were made of enemies with unique teamups between crusaders with allot more character interactions.

I want more of what we got with Polnareff

[red raptor]

^Yeah. Part 3 would be a lot better if they cut out some content.
I had issues with the pacing and inconsistency of enemy stand fights in pre-Egypt.
When the crusaders get to Egypt, it was slightly better.

[grizzled linden]

Allot of people have Polnareff as their favorite part 3 character, because he is really well fleshed out, its so fuking good and its a crying shame its just limited to him and him alone

[red raptor]

Polnareff felt like the protagonist haha

[grizzled linden]

Yeah, he is such a fucking great character

He is the focus of SO many part 3 fights

[red raptor]

Polnareff was the main spotlight for those fights

[grizzled linden]

Almost too many to count, he is such a fucking prevelant character

[red raptor]

When Polnareff's silver Chariot impaled J. Geil's tongue, it was super satisfying.

Gotta avenge his sister's death y'know. Such a cool way to end that guy's misery.

[winged crest]

Don't cut out content just do what max said write the part with having Crusaders teaming up against a team of enemies

Like how we had Kakyoin and Polnareff vs Lovers

Technically everyone was contributing in that one fight now I think about it

Kakyoin and Polnareff fought

Joseph showed em what they were doing

Jotaro kept Steely Dan busy and away from them

Do you agree @grizzled linden

[grizzled linden]

Yes, and team enemy stand users up. I dislike that the only teamups we can speak of are the Oingo Boingo brothers and J-Geill and Hol Horse, both really not playing to the others' strong suit.

[winged crest]

Nah to be fair

For the first like 5 minutes

J.Giles and Hol did do really well

Hol being a douch and distracting while he set shit up for J

Then they split up

Because Hol is an idiot and didn't meet back up with J

neee be back in a while

[grizzled linden]

Yeah, and it only works so well because there happens to be a fucking puddle there after the rainfall that can have J geill stab Avdol in the back. I think its a way better team up for J-Geill to be with his mother, Enyaba. The dew from the mist would absolutely have reflections in it, so not only can he injure his opponents, Enyaba can actually start taking control of them. Or J-Geill with Yellow Temperance, where it would reflect off of the goo and both would be able to quickly injure enemies while neither take significant damage

[gilded relic]

Forget what i wrote

Im very dumb, sorry

[grizzled linden]

its ok, I was in the ventor

[wintry rampart]

Protagonists arent normally goofball jobbers

Just saying

[grizzled linden]

There are allot of goofball jobber protagonists out there, the fuck?

[wintry rampart]

Jobber? I dunno about that

They usually goof their way to a win

[grizzled linden]

You will find over a hundred stories where that would be a truth. And I really dont think that commonality of the character architype should be used to prove or disprove their role in the story

And is Pol really a jobber?

Would Shindler from Shindlers list count as a jobber?

[wintry rampart]

havent seen it

But Pol definitely is. Dude licks toilets which Araki went on record as being something a protagonist wouldn't do

Pol is literally Araki's "haha" vessel because Jotaro cant be

[grizzled linden]

I guess. But if Araki thinks protagonists cant lick toilets...hes fucking wrong

Dude, there was a big thing during the beginning of this covid crisis where people lick toilets to be like "corona virus aint real". You can turn that into a story where one such person is the protagonist.

[wintry rampart]

🤔

Ok, but he probably meant for a shounen

[grizzled linden]

YOU CAN HAVE A CORONA SHOUNEN!!!

Or even have a typical shounen protagonist thats not too bright do it as like a funny scene

[wintry rampart]

sure, but that would make Polnareff a villain of the week chump to defeat if he's licking toilets

lets be honest

[grizzled linden]

Scuuuuuuuuse me, are you trying to imply all toilet licking is bad?

[wintry rampart]

I might be

[grizzled linden]

GASP

[wintry rampart]

lets not talk about this here though

[grizzled linden]

Sure

[wintry rampart]

because I cant even joke about it without maybe getting muted or warned

lmao

[grizzled linden]

But yeah, I feel like araki is incorrect in his previous statement, there you go

[wintry rampart]

🤷

Jotaro still beats Polnareff in fight amount

like I love Polnareff

he's my third favorite character in the series

[grizzled linden]

Oh, he does??

[wintry rampart]

but he's unfortunately a punk

[wintry rampart]

the fight amount comment? I believe so

Ive counted before

but Ill do it again real quick

yeah its like

13 vs. 9

do your own count though, maybe youll give more/less credit to either?

I counted Pol for Lovers, even though he was a joke in that

that was Kak's glory

[grizzled linden]

I mean, in lovers, he faught in Josephs brain against the clones, so I would count that

[wintry rampart]

Yeah, but Im saying he was kind of there to bumble around

Kakyoin had it covered

[grizzled linden]

Ye

[wintry rampart]

He tries

[grizzled linden]

He tried indeed

[wintry rampart]

Im not gonna deny that Polnareff has a lot of spotlight, especially being the funny man

but the meme is too strong

[grizzled linden]

He also cut open the vein that they were able to use to get further in Josephs brain

[winged crest]

That's pog

[wintry rampart]

too bad scumbags after money arent eager to share/work together

I imagine Araki rationalizes it as them being power crazed

Hol is the only one keeping his head in reality

[grizzled linden]

Wait, what are you referring to with that Fred?

[wintry rampart]

What you were saying about the villain team-ups

Rubber Soul seems too full of himself

He thought he was invincible and was working purely for cash

It makes me think of #stone ocean

assuming you saw that

its like that, just assholes not willing to cooperate

[grizzled linden]

I mean, im not even arguing from a consistency standpoint, its entirely me arguing the meta of how the part is structured

[wintry rampart]

I understand that, Im saying there's character reasons

Im not trying to make it a meta convo

[grizzled linden]

Well, then id change them aswell :3

[winged crest]

To be fair you could just have 80% of them be loyal fanatics like N'Doul

[wintry rampart]

but even that guy worked alone

[winged crest]

And the other few be money hungry mercs

[wintry rampart]

Hmmm

let me do another quick count

[grizzled linden]

I have an issue with the fact allot of fights are practically filler and there are allot of pacing issues in the part. How would one fix this? Ya team the bad guys up and have characters develop while beating the bad guys up. In this entire argument, I am solely discussing the structure of the part. Bringing in specifics of the characters being gay is irrelevant

[wintry rampart]

being gay??

wait what

[grizzled linden]

Im using gay as smurf dont worry

[wintry rampart]

so like stupid gay?

like "thats gay"

90s gay

[grizzled linden]

No, just a catchall term for all words

[wintry rampart]

well anyway, I dont see how the characters dont develop and fights with a lot of contenders are usually very complicated

btw Id say at most 12 of them are mercs

nvm, Id say "12 at most"

A lot of those Tarot dudes

I can assume the 9 gods are probably closer in fold

they directly meet with DIO and we know it

it seems like the tarot guys are mainly Enya connections

[winged crest]

I'd say out if Tarots, Dan,Enya and J might be closest to DIO

[wintry rampart]

J?

oh

my b

[winged crest]

Dan because he had fleshbuds in his pocket

[wintry rampart]

Geil yeah

and yeah Steely Dan seems like he's close to DIO since he executed Enya

[winged crest]

Ye

[wintry rampart]

Steely Dan is also a pretty critical adversary

You can tell how evil he is inside

it isnt just money for him

[grizzled linden]

They CAN be complicated. I would say the siege on the promised day in FMAB is not too complicated, but involves so many characters getting their moments of shine and finishing character arcs and such. I am also not saying that none develop in part 3, I am saying that I believe this could be a way to pace the story out a bit better AND you can have more oppertunities to have characters developing

[wintry rampart]

what fights in particular do you take issue with?

You said you enjoyed Lovers

[winged crest]

Develop Avdol more

[wintry rampart]

that'd be nice yea

[winged crest]

That'd be pog

[grizzled linden]

Yes, Lovers is a continuation of Justice and it shows more of Dios character in dealing with people that are captured

[wintry rampart]

He has his subtle characterizations but thats it

Im just saying your solution seems to be "throw arcs together to lessen the length" but there's no promise that would work out that way and Araki was creating a week-to-week battle shounen

[worn lava]

I thought the bud was just Dan being Dan

[wintry rampart]

It was a DIO bud

[worn lava]

didn't he give Dan buds to use

[wintry rampart]

yeah

but he was ordered to silence Enya

[worn lava]

oh

[wintry rampart]

Enya knows all of DIO's secrets, sort of

a lot of them maybe

she knows he stops time

[worn lava]

Wasn't she the one who told Dio about his stand and his powers

[wintry rampart]

yeah

She's basically the Avdol of DIO's party

[worn lava]

Yeah, that's a pretty big threat

[grizzled linden]

Arakis mindset at the time was irrelevant. I am saying the product we got was pretty poopy, and I am suggesting change. To discuss your original point, that is part of it, but also to make dio seem a bit more smart than just sending one fucker at the time and allow for more character development. Ofcourse, it isnt necassarily a formula for success, but a good enough writer could absolutely make it work

[wintry rampart]

Id say the mangaka's mindset at the time is EVERYTHING and not irrelevant really but I also dont hate part 3

btw if you remember the beginning, DIO knew it would come down to him

[grizzled linden]

What you are discussing is why we got the product that we got, im discussing the product on its own

[wintry rampart]

Enya was the one insisting on trying to stop the Joestar group

Like he straight up told Enya he'd have to do it

and she was like "no no"

and you're dealing with all these crazy stand using psychos who are tracking the group as they move as fast as possible across the globe

[grizzled linden]

They are very easily tracked, as we know

[wintry rampart]

by DIO's Hermit Purple yeah

not by these random dudes by themselves necessarily

[winged crest]

All DIO needs is for Enya to phone the assassins to coordinate

[grizzled linden]

They are traveling in a group, CONSISTENTLY

[winged crest]

When he sees where the group is

[wintry rampart]

its 1988/89 btw

[grizzled linden]

So?

[wintry rampart]

no cell phones

[winged crest]

Payphone

[wintry rampart]

just saying

and its like, the middle east

[grizzled linden]

I dont...when have I mentioned cellphones in this?

Me or erik?

[winged crest]

Joseph used a payphone

[wintry rampart]

You are making it sound like communication is effortless

You're dealing with a bunch of thugs given super powers

its not like they're a genius crew of assassins tracking Jotaro and co

[grizzled linden]

Do you not think they will listen to either Enya or Dios proposal of trying to take out the crusaders in groups?

[wintry rampart]

You are affording them a lot of credit

[wintry rampart]

they might agree in person and then not listen anyway

[grizzled linden]

When we have precident that stand users are able to work together?

[winged crest]

If DIO tells them to do something they will listen

Or get a massive hole

[wintry rampart]

Hol Horse does

[winged crest]

In their head

[wintry rampart]

But DIO makes a point of saying he's special for that quality

[grizzled linden]

AlMoSt LiKe I wAs ReFeReNcInG hIm

[wintry rampart]

The willingness to cooperate is a huge boon within Jojo and sometimes the protagonists even fail at it

[grizzled linden]

Can you tell me when?

[wintry rampart]

Shooting DIO!

[grizzled linden]

Thats...how does that correlate?

How does that prove hes special for trying to cooperate with others?

[worn lava]

Charisma

[winged crest]

He said I like you Hol Horse

Because Hol had the balls

[grizzled linden]

Charisma does not equal bravery

[winged crest]

To shoot him and wasn't sweating iirc

[wintry rampart]

🤔

Im re-reading the chapter, and maybe Im thinking of the Over Heaven novel?

[grizzled linden]

Yeah...but I dont see how that coorelates with him being special for working with others?

[wintry rampart]

unless the colored scans are that fucked up

I hope Im not, I hated that novel

[worn lava]

I'm guessing Time stop has a cooldown right

[wintry rampart]

either way, the ability to cooperate and work together is still a huge quality within the story of Jojo itself

otherwise Ceaser wouldnt have died

[grizzled linden]

Like, Hol Horse is a brave guy that does what he wants, but I dont see the relevance to that and him being unique with working with others

[wintry rampart]

Its not even just Hol Horse

Like the crux of your huge theoretical rewrite of 3 is the villains not being too scummy to work together

so you have to change the fundamentals of Jojo itself

[grizzled linden]

I dont see why they would be

No, I wouldnt change anything fundemental at all

[wintry rampart]

well, you arent scummy

[grizzled linden]

How exactly are they scummy btw?

[wintry rampart]

^^^

[grizzled linden]

Morally?

[wintry rampart]

the part 3 stand users?

like, the villains?

[grizzled linden]

Yeah

[wintry rampart]

They're scum

[grizzled linden]

Im asking as if I dont know, because I wanna know what you define as being scummy

[wintry rampart]

Do I really need to list off all the screwed up shit they do?

[worn lava]

Call me crazy

[grizzled linden]

Stuff that specifically would make the scummy

[worn lava]

but could Dio be beaten by most of the egyptian gods he hired

[grizzled linden]

Argue as if I have never read jojo

[wintry rampart]

literally everything they do. They kill bystanders, take hostages, are down with torture

[wintry rampart]

???

[winged crest]

No?

[wintry rampart]

I don't think so.

[grizzled linden]

How would that contradict the idea they wouldnt work with others?

[winged crest]

Which one's could beat him lol?

[worn lava]

Well

they involve him falling for their things mainly

[wintry rampart]

hold on, I have to quote something I said earlier

[grizzled linden]

They go through allot of morally repugnant things to try and win, how would that change if they had a teammate?

Go ahead

[worn lava]

but for one, if D'arby Gamer could get Dio to play with him he'd probably win

[wintry rampart]

this message and down

Its about greed

and pride

[worn lava]

Could Dio beat Mariah if he touched Bastet

[winged crest]

Do you think he's suicidal/DIO is stupid?

[wintry rampart]

and then I brought up some Stone Ocean stuff

you can still see it in the 6 channel

[grizzled linden]

Oh, you actually said stuff in stone ocean, lemme check

[worn lava]

Er, got shocked by it

[winged crest]

Yes DIO could easily beat Mariah if he bastes,things aren't gonna fly at him in time stop

[worn lava]

he's still a magnet

[winged crest]

Time

Is stopped

[worn lava]

Magnet

trick

[winged crest]

No

[urban sun]

that makes sense

magnet trick worked in time stop

[winged crest]

Wasn't the magnet there

[urban sun]

?

[winged crest]

So that Jotaro can move his arm

And if it works

That DIO assumes it was a magnet

[worn lava]

Actually no

With alessi he'd have to undo 100 years

[winged crest]

If Alessi undid 100 years

He would be

So unbelievable fucked

Cuz DIO -100 years is PB Vampire Dio

[worn lava]

Anyways, the biggest flaw with Sethan is that Alessi is too idiotic to hold people in it

[winged crest]

He doesn't need to hold you in it if ur 8 you are already in trouble (unless you had a stand as a kid)

And he couldn't get Polnareff to stay in it

[obsidian stag]

Could he possibly Undo Dios to the point where he's a kid again and a vampire?

[winged crest]

Idk

[wintry rampart]

I bet Joseph could lower Hermit Purple into water DBM and user are inhabiting and hit the user with a ripple that could knock him out

[topaz flume]

Jotaro did move in ts

But he tricked dio into thinking magnets moved him

So magnets dont work in ts

[winged crest]

Thank u Tanz

[topaz flume]

Np

[tame venture]

NOBODY is going to talk about this???!

[lucid geyser]

why are you posting this in 3 different channels

[tame venture]

it's an enemy stand

[nocturne roost]

Dio... mirror...

how.

and straizo had no reflection in part 2

[weary turret]

dios just that good

[burnt dirge]

i have a question for fellas

what happened to the whole shrinking stands in the lovers? did that get retconned

[honest flare]

It probably wasn’t useful later.

[burnt dirge]

i figured maybe itd just make the series boring because stand go in brain and easy end fight so araki just decided not to use it again

[wintry rampart]

Jonathan isnt fully connected and is not a totally vampiric body

[nocturne roost]

So what about Dio’s head

[wintry rampart]

shrinking stands take a lot of energy and is not as useful as you'd think

[wintry rampart]

thats why he has a shadow face, duh

[nocturne roost]

I mean his reflection

[wintry rampart]

I know

[nocturne roost]

But I don’t understand. How does the shadowy face make his head have a reflection?

[wintry rampart]

Im telling you that the point of the shadowy face is to not give him a full reflection but without Araki having to draw a headless corpse standing there speaking

It also gives this idea that something might have changed about Dio, but it didnt

[nocturne roost]

Okay I guess I understand

[wintry rampart]

Its really not that important either, but Dio is like inbetween two forms

[worn lava]

Why does Death 13 need to kill with its scythe

Would the people just be woken up if they die some other way?

What happens if death 13 fights someone in a lucid dream

[nocturne roost]

Yeah

[rich spoke]

Darby :c c ccca call

[winged crest]

You can't have a lucid dream if you fall asleep around death 13

You can only go to it's nightmare world

[worn lava]

oh

[steep comet]

Best part bruh

[grizzled linden]

Nah, really not

[wintry rampart]

worst part

[lucid geyser]

[languid bronze]

Dont forget part 6 is a thing

[robust portal]

What

[languid bronze]

Part 6 = bad

Now laugh

[robust portal]

Ah yes

Hilarious

[arctic sun]

Sucked because enya didnt have a sex scene

[soft grail]

[winged crest]

[fallen tartan]

Kakyoin, avdol and iggy die

[sand anvil]

why spoiler im not past the part 😢

[fallen tartan]

Lmao, you actually thought?

[sand anvil]

yeah dude.

that wasnt funny. 😡

[autumn gale]

imagine thinking he actually spoiled it

[fallen tartan]

Ok, sorry

For making you think they die

Kakyoin my fav character

[lucid geyser]

@sand anvil this channel is for the discussion of part 3

so my advise would be to stay off of this channel if u want to be spoiler free

[sand anvil]

its a joke

[lucid geyser]

oh ok

it's difficult to detect sarcasm through the internet

welp, have a good day sir

[sand anvil]

you too

[lucid geyser]

thanks

[wintry rampart]

Jotaro used the world to defeat the world to save the world then used the world to protect the world later on in the world.

[worn lava]

Did Jotaro notice when dio stopped time without him there

[bright remnant]

Jotaro could pull of the most bad ass cum n go

[sage socket]

“Are you really going to Ora Ora me??”

[near star]

@sage socket, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

[sage socket]

That made me laugh for 6 minutes straight

I almost threw up

[bright remnant]

Yes yes yes

Oh my god

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-yes-oh-my-god-jojo-joseph-joestar-jjba-stadrust-crusaders-gif-13351990

[sage socket]

I miss petshop

[kind hemlock]

I miss iggy more

[bright remnant]

Fuck iggy

[lucid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/iggy-jojos-bizarre-adventure-jojo-gif-8917909

@bright remnant u r polnareff

[bright remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/polnareff-crying-cry-jojo-avdol-gif-14065929

[wintry rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/noriaki-kakyoin-jjba-jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-kakyoin-noriaki-gif-17648063

this was too sad

[coral dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kakyoin-kakyoin-death-jojo-jjba-jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-gif-17648368

[wintry rampart]

Kinda funny

[lost saddle]

[wanton anchor]

Hottest jojo girl.

[wintry rampart]

This was sad indeed,but let's just agree that Avdol’s,Iggy’s death was also very sad

[obsidian stag]

laughs in lisa Lisa

[honest flare]

Yasuho,

[wanton anchor]

Lisa lisa second hottest to me.

[wintry rampart]

Lol,my hun loves both

[obsidian stag]

Gun?

*hun

[wintry rampart]

Hun bun is my love,i call him like this

[obsidian stag]

Ohhhh

[wintry rampart]

Uwu

[topaz flume]

Bruh

[wintry rampart]

What

[bright remnant]

“Ora”

[severe magnet]

[bright remnant]

[delicate agate]

[bright remnant]

[amber tide]

DIO wears elf shoes

[wintry rampart]

[stone rose]

Y'all tripping, Holly is the hottest jojo waifu

This message has been approved by Kakyoin Noriaki

[civic jungle]

If messages have been aproved by a dead man, then they don't count

[winged crest]

If a message has been approved by a meme it don't count

Also Lisa Lisa exists

[civic jungle]

True

[stone rose]

I have officially changed my mind on Holly

Lisa Lisa is indeed hotter

[wintry rampart]

Tarot cards

[distant rivet]

I made a lil edit of Pol Pol

[winged crest]

That's goooooooooooooooood

[distant rivet]

Oh thx dude

[lucid geyser]

nice work

in case you're using after effects, you might want to take a look at the timewarp effect

you will love it

if you haven't seen it before

[distant rivet]

Oh I’ll definitely try that

[lucid geyser]

cool

oh i see a 'funimate' watermark

idk that program but it's not after effects so it doesn't have time warp

[distant rivet]

Yeah, Funimate is the program I used. I’ll check after effects though

[lucid geyser]

aight

u gotta buy it tho

who am i kidding

do what you want cuz a pirate is free, you are a pirate!

[bright remnant]

Ah yes

Jontro

[pseudo crater]

@thorn geyser stardust crusaders is the best bc its pure BRO BRO

[near star]

@pseudo crater, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

[honest flare]

Because you find it sad.

[nocturne roost]

https://youtu.be/dr6lZyLt4XE

Okay, but what’s wrong with that girl’s hair?

What is that

[void kayak]

Good looks get a lot of hooks. But that kind of attention-getting is always quantity over quality (as you can see with these girls)

[lucid geyser]

maybe she just wanted to be more aerodynamic

[merry cargo]

that looks like ac/dc hair

[bright remnant]

Jontro

[austere warren]

same vibe

[wintry rampart]

finally

after like 2 weeks

I’m finished with stardust crusaders

[wintry rampart]

a bad perm

[wet gulch]

great then, now proceed to enjoy diamond is unbreakable my dude 👍

[worn lava]

Half an alessi

[queen thorn]

this shit is so inconsistent

im introducing this show to my friends

on part 3

jotaros hand got a hole stabbed through it

kakyoin got his mouth stabbed too

[worn lava]

Justice?

[queen thorn]

there was blood everywhere

no the stag beetle

[worn lava]

oh

I thought that was just all the passangers

[queen thorn]

and then now

they're magically all ok

this makes no sense

[worn lava]

I saw this

is it more or less cursed than normal

[queen thorn]

more

[winged crest]

Somebody doesn't know shonen logic

[worn lava]

Everyone knows you heal 1000% faster when not in a battle

[winged crest]

Take a long rest and all injuries heal

[queen thorn]

the worst part is that the next frame they were shown in they were all healed up

[worn lava]

Again

You instantly heal when you're not fighting

[queen thorn]

oh ok

👍

[worn lava]

but a bit more of a glaring problem with that is Justice

[wintry rampart]

They probably have a healing factor on tier with Jonathan right after getting his diaphragm fixed tbf

[worn lava]

Major cuts are one thing but how do you instantly heal a hole that goes right through your hand

[wintry rampart]

if you want logic

[queen thorn]

i dont think you can really explain it with logic

[worn lava]

are the holes part of the stand

[wintry rampart]

I just did tho

[queen thorn]

since kakyoin healed too

with a hole punched through his mouth

[wintry rampart]

didnt HG's face mask protect him?

[queen thorn]

the mouth was deformed from the punch

and it got fixed in the next frame

[wintry rampart]

punch?

[queen thorn]

or no not punch

[worn lava]

That was Yellow Temperance wasn't it

[queen thorn]

how do i call it

in the stag beetle fight

[worn lava]

Who cane after tower of gray again?

[wintry rampart]

he means this

I dunno why he said Kak's mouth was deformed

[worn lava]

Dark Blue Moon right

[wintry rampart]

yeah

[queen thorn]

it was in the anime

[wintry rampart]

with the fake Tenielle

[queen thorn]

it was deformed after the punch

[wintry rampart]

the thing I just posted?

[queen thorn]

what

[worn lava]

The hardest part to remember is the area between strength and justice

[queen thorn]

im confused

[worn lava]

for me

[wintry rampart]

this?

I still maintain the "headcanon" that stand users have enhanced healing factors on par with what a low tier hamon user's would be

Jonathan just needed a poke in the chest to heal his arm

[worn lava]

If only it worked like that for kakyoin

[wintry rampart]

lol for what

getting chest punched?

[worn lava]

Ye

didn't go so well for him

[wintry rampart]

🤦 oh I get it now

badumtss

[worn lava]

Did Iggy have the slightest idea that he finished off Anubis

I wonder what happens if you actually plug something into bastet

[bleak belfry]

death

[worn lava]

I meant a cord

[low leaf]

voice actors posing 😳

[pure sage]

jotaros dub vc is so hot

[wintry rampart]

people who call dio a misunderstood baby need to go die

[low leaf]

who did that

[wintry rampart]

a lot of dio fangirls

and fanboys

[low leaf]

what does that even mean

[wintry rampart]

they try to explain how what he had done wasn't his fault

his childhood made him violent

and he hated the world because of his abusive father

[low leaf]

I don't even like dio

[wintry rampart]

i never really said you did

neither do i

[low leaf]

I'm just saying

[worn lava]

Ah yes

"Dio did nothing wrong"

[low leaf]

because I have a dio pfp

[wintry rampart]

i see

[pure sage]

Dio killed off my comfort characters

fucking scum

[worn lava]

Ah yes just because he had a messed up father he is allowed to kill countless people

fair enough

[winged crest]

er.... no

They are fucking stupid as shit

[opaque hollow]

imagine going to a fucking mansion living the best life and the first thing you do is burning the dog alive

[winged crest]

But killing people over an opinion = bad

[pure sage]

LMFAO legit

[winged crest]

that's not even the 1st thing he did

Kicking the dog, bullying step brother, ruining step brother's relationships

[wintry rampart]

dio did nothing wrong isn't really an opinion

[opaque hollow]

well ik

[low leaf]

dio sucks ass

[worn lava]

isn't the first thing he said "I'm going to make your life hell" to Jonathan

[winged crest]

These are the 1st things he did

[winged crest]

it is

[worn lava]

It's a fact and it's wrong

[winged crest]

that was after kicking the dog, and some other stuff

[opaque hollow]

kinda meant the first thing he killed ig

[winged crest]

But yes within like 10 minutes of getting there

[low leaf]

he's honestly at the bottom of my top favourite villains

[pure sage]

fv is my favourite

[winged crest]

near the top

is DIO

For me

[pure sage]

yeah

[low leaf]

I never really saw anything special about him

he's just an asshole

[pure sage]

dio is like 4th for me

[opaque hollow]

my favorite is probably fv

[pure sage]

hes hot

[low leaf]

same

[opaque hollow]

or wonder of u

[pure sage]

that works right

[low leaf]

yeah part 1 dio is kinda hot ngl

[pure sage]

exactly

[winged crest]

And yes DIO, is evil because of a shit childhood, doesn't mean he did nothing wrong, but that's still a fact

[pure sage]

he got bullied aswell didnt he

[bleak belfry]

DIO could have just been a better person once he was given a chance to be a better person

when the joestars took him in

[opaque hollow]

hes just an asshole

[bleak belfry]

yea exactly

[jade python]

well dio aint had the best childhood either

[near star]

@jade python, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[bleak belfry]

maybe it was cuz of his surroundings, but hes still an asshole

[pure sage]

you guys are making me feel like a dio kinnie ....

[jade python]

every time he wanted to use his intelligence he got bullied and abused constantly by his father, and remember he also knew his father killed his mother

[pure sage]

wtf is the song my gf is playing

[jade python]

that evil nature his not him

[low leaf]

wwwww

[jade python]

that's his history of mental emotional and physical abuse

[winged crest]

Dio was too far gone, he was already at the point if trampling anybody who gets in his way by the time he got to the mansion

[bleak belfry]

still doesnt excuse murder

[low leaf]

I usually don't like characters that had a bad past

[jade python]

Kinda does and doesn't excuse murder

[winged crest]

If his dad died when he was much younger Dio might have turned out better

[bleak belfry]

dio has one of the better backstories for villains imo

[jade python]

Cuz at that point, morals don't matter

[pure sage]

yeah

[jade python]

Yea, no one's backstory beats DOOFENSHMIRTZ

[grizzled linden]

Self defense excuses murder

[bleak belfry]

and when did dio ever need self defense?

lol

[grizzled linden]

He is one of the most developed characters I have ever seen in fiction, such a rich live

[bleak belfry]

i would say part 3 hes sorta bland

[jade python]

Well technically DIO was "on the ground" when Jonathan attacked him so

[grizzled linden]

Against Jonathan and Zeppili :3

[bleak belfry]

but for part 1 he is a great villain

[winged crest]

His father did not kill his mother, his mother was driven to death by his alcoholism n stuff

[bleak belfry]

....that does not count

[jade python]

That's even worse

[low leaf]

part 1 dio is my favourite dio

[grizzled linden]

LUL, it doesnt?

[robust linden]

DIO isn't bland, Part 3 DIO is still the same character and comes together as a whole

[winged crest]

^

Dio is Dio

[jade python]

Part 3 DIO is even better and stronger, just way more cockier

[pure sage]

people think sdc is repeated but it was really good imo

[robust linden]

It's like comparing a character pre development to a character post development

Sorta

Especially if they have the exact same personality

[winged crest]

I see Dio and DIO as the same character cuz they are

[robust linden]

They literally are, yes

[grizzled linden]

Hes allot more enigmatic in part 3, I really like his scenes where hes trying to convince the crusaders, when he chats with enyaba, when hol horse confronts him

[bleak belfry]

but DIO just seems more of a blander generic villain in part 3
dont get me wrong he was pretty generic in part 1 and still wanted to rule the world
but his only connection in part 3 is jotaro being jonathans relative, and they are nothing alike

[grizzled linden]

Dio in part 3 is so fkn cool

[jade python]

Well he was adopted

Ofc jonathan and dio weren't alike

[worn lava]

Question

[bleak belfry]

jonathan and jotaro

[winged crest]

Tell it to peeps who consider them completely different characters xD

[bleak belfry]

they are the same person, but they act completely different

[low leaf]

yeah

[winged crest]

No

[worn lava]

you know how some people in future parts can get a stand from being really good at something

[winged crest]

That doesn't mean shit

It's the same guy

[worn lava]

is that how dio got the world

[robust linden]

He's not, DIO's the same exact dude. Hell, DIO develops more purely because he now has different interactions with people than his Part 1 self while still acting the same if pushed to his limits

[worn lava]

waiting underwater for 100 years

[grizzled linden]

I very much dissagree, in allot of his scenes where he talks with others, when hes obscured with shadow, he is such a mysterious and such an enigmatic man and allot of the stuff he does seems to allude to far more nuanced character traits that hes gotten

[robust linden]

^^^^^

[grizzled linden]

Fuck me, part 3 dio before reveal was so cool

[bleak belfry]

the "nuanced character traits" he gets is just paranoia and mental disorders

[robust linden]

If this was Part 1 DIO completely, Hol Horse would've been fucked

[winged crest]

Yes

[pure sage]

Hol horse was amazing

[winged crest]

Man would be fucking sucked dry

[grizzled linden]

Nah, not really, he seems to be more invested in humans than just meat

[jade python]

Jonathan had a stand

[grizzled linden]

Dio is so COOOOOOOOL

[worn lava]

I mean

[bleak belfry]

because he still sees them as pawns and tools

[jade python]

Which explains why Hermit Purple is so similar to it

[bleak belfry]

he never forms any connections with people

[worn lava]

being trapped in a coffin at the bottom of the sea for 100 years does tend to take a toll on one's mental health

[winged crest]

Lie

[robust linden]

||Laughs in Part 6||

[winged crest]

He does form a connection with people

[bleak belfry]

exactly, he is almost a different person with a different personality

[low leaf]

pre stardust crusaders

[winged crest]

And?

[grizzled linden]

Not necassarily, he seems them as usefull aswell as creatures that are very interesting to him, his entire speech with polnareff seems as if he has studied humans and their characteristics

[worn lava]

Well not in part 1

[bleak belfry]

he sees them as useful, yes. do you forget he was also a human at one point?

his whole thing is that he is very persuasive and a sociopath who manipulates people

he understands human emotions, but he himself cannot be human and does not consider himself human

the only person he respected was jonathan, and it kinda ruined dio for me when he stole jonathans body

[grizzled linden]

That is literally wrong with how he spoke to Hol and Polnareff, lul

[winged crest]

He respected him and that's why he stole his body, because no other body will do

[bleak belfry]

but i think it would be better if he valued being loved finally and respecting someone back better than his own self preservation, for dio at the end of part 1 to see the error of his ways a little and die with jonathan

[winged crest]

Why would he do that

His ways are not an error in his eyes

[bleak belfry]

exactly, thats the problem

im not saying he would

im saying it would be a better ending if he did

[winged crest]

Nah

Then JoJo ends with part 2

[grizzled linden]

Exactly, yet he became mostly monsterous in part 1, with not too much nuance to how he sees others. In part 3, he absolutely becomes more nuanced in terms of the philosophy he holds dear and how he studies others. He is manipulative, sure, but how he manipulates others and how he talks to others seems to imply allot more stuff, which is why I call him very nuanced. How he uses fear to change the mind of Hol Horse of betraying him was so fucking interestign

[winged crest]

And maybe we get parts 7&8

[worn lava]

Do you mean "maybe I was bad" or "welp maybe this wasn't a good idea"

[grizzled linden]

Do NoT dEfY FaCtS aNd LoGiC

[worn lava]

Do you believe in time

[grizzled linden]

Hmmmm

[bleak belfry]

thats another thing i dont like, every single part ties into dio in some way

[winged crest]

Because he's the Joestar curse

The bloodline is cursed because of Dio Brando

[bleak belfry]

it was still just manipulation, in part 1 he just turned people into mind controlled zombies, in part 3 he would lose some less devoted followers if he turned them into zombies so he justs manipulates them as humans, sometimes just using flesh buds to control them

i agree, hol horse scene was cool af tho

pretty scary

[winged crest]

He used fleshbuds on 2 people

Kakyoin and Polnareff

Everyone else was either fanatically loyal or in it for the money

[bleak belfry]

and a future character

it is implied there are several other people besides kak and pol that were infected

[grizzled linden]

You cannot see the DEEEEEEEEEP stuff

[bleak belfry]

or fear, somewhat

[winged crest]

Where is that implied

[worn lava]

Wasn't Mariah just horny

[pure sage]

i dont like mariah

[near star]

@pure sage, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !

[worn lava]

and that's her whole motivation

[bleak belfry]

||nijimura, if nijimura was flesh budded its implied more people outside of him were infected as well||

i guess it might be just headcanon

[grizzled linden]

So what if its still manipulation? Its really fucking intersting how he comforts others through the power of persuasion, versus what he would do originally: fear or having them become his zombies.

[winged crest]

Why

[worn lava]

Better than alessi

[bleak belfry]

manipulation doesnt really reveal everything about a character, outside of manipulation others, DIO just has a take down the joestars-rule-the-world mentality

[bleak belfry]

anything is better than alessi

[grizzled linden]

It does when Dio did other things before

[worn lava]

Alessi has one of the most op stands if you're willing to go overkill with it

[grizzled linden]

He changed as a character

[pure sage]

idk man, i prefer hol horse, Maybe because it's the fact i don't like a lot of the female characters in jojo but she's better than alessi,, But imo d'arby was better. Both of them. Mariah was full of herself aswell.

[worn lava]

I wonder if Alessi could turn someone back into an egg

[bleak belfry]

definitely but hes just a pedo

[bleak belfry]

for the worst

[grizzled linden]

Lies

[worn lava]

Like I said

[grizzled linden]

Dio fucking poggers

[worn lava]

100 years in a coffin is hard on your sanity

[pure sage]

alessi beats little kids, a shame

[winged crest]

That is false

[grizzled linden]

I dont know why people call him a pedo, he beats opponents that are incredibly weak and his stand makes people children, erego, he beats children

[bleak belfry]

reverts you back to lizard

eh, alessi might not have been a pedo, but he was definitely a coward

like most villains

[winged crest]

He was

[worn lava]

I mean he runs away as soon as an adult appears doesn't he

[winged crest]

Most arent

[grizzled linden]

Yes, hes a coward...so?

[bleak belfry]

almost all the minor villains have non confrontational stands or stands that allow them security

[pure sage]

alessi can only turn you into what you was once before.. but i'm not sure if it works on animals too? but it kinda proves a lot by the way he turned that poor woman into a fetus so i guess it could be possible?

[worn lava]

everyone starts out as an egg

except clones

[pure sage]

mhm

[bleak belfry]

i guess he could even revert someone back to sperm

but that goes into questions of whether sperm is a separate entity or part of a human

[worn lava]

I'd imagine it stops at fertilized egg

[bleak belfry]

probably

or fetus stage

[pure sage]

Wouldnt you just die if he turned you into an egg

[worn lava]

yes

[bleak belfry]

sort of?

we dont know much about the limits of alessis stand

[worn lava]

What I don't get is why Alessi doesn't just turn Polnareff into a fetus and just step on him or something

he seems messed up enough to do that

[winged crest]

He couldn't

[bleak belfry]

it takes time

[winged crest]

Polnareff got out of the shadow every time

[bleak belfry]

so he was going to turn pol into a fetus

but he wasnt able to

[worn lava]

But when he was able to grab polnareff he just tried drowning him

[grizzled linden]

Yes, ofcourse, a young Polnareff is right there, why waste energy deaging Pol more when you can kill him right then and there?

[worn lava]

He already had a lot of trouble dealing with Polnareff didn't he

[grizzled linden]

Yes, and now he has him, so you drown him

Or choke him to death

[winged crest]

That plan failed lul

[worn lava]

If he held polnareff under Sethan he wouldn't have lost

just saying

[wanton turret]

@obsidian stag ?

[obsidian stag]

Yeah there

[wanton turret]

my analysis on it is below the images

[near star]

@opaque hollow, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

[split helm]

#manga-jojokes

[dark basin]

he's not a pedo, he's a child abuser. Still bad, but different i guess?

[bleak belfry]

i guess

[winged crest]

coward too scared to pick on somebody his own size

therefore make them kids so he can feel powerful while he beats them to death

[nocturne oasis]

I mean

I dont thing anyone his size exists in the jojoverse lmao

[winged crest]

Size being "a fellow adult"

[nocturne oasis]

And not "A gigantic machine of destruction and asspulls"

Wait how tall IS Alessi again?

[winged crest]

shorter then Jotaro?

[nocturne oasis]

I mean, he IS reffered to as short

But "short" is very broad ,especially in the first 3 parts-

[wanton turret]

I'd say he's maybe just average

Anyone other than joseph and dio and hftf devo is shorter than jotaro

They're just really big

[steep comet]

if short was referred to jotaro everyone would be like minions bruh

[nocturne oasis]

to be honest, i have no idea why Devo is that tall in HFTF

[ancient kettle]

beeg

[wintry rampart]

https://youtu.be/_XP83_i_9Hc

[frank folio]

I enjoyed totally not Mark and honestly this was the best video he has released yet

[shell wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XP83_i_9Hc&ab_channel=TotallyNotMark poggu

[winged crest]

That was posted like an hour or 2 ago

[past sail]

yeah like 3 messages above that one lol

[bleak belfry]

literally impossible not to see in this channel

[manic oriole]

Oh yesss totally not Mark nicee

[frank folio]

hes one of my favorite youtubers and this video is really awesome probably his best one yet

[bright remnant]

DIO!

[winged crest]

Jotaro! Kisama do

[bright remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-phantom-blood-jonathan-joestar-dio-brando-hamon-gif-19839691

https://tenor.com/view/dio-jotaro-gif-18253187

Same energy

[winged crest]

Hmm

Kinda

[bright remnant]

They both approach Dio

While saying his name

Before a fight breaks out

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-joseph-joestar-jojos-bizarre-adventure-jjba-anime-gif-16556207

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-oh-my-god-joseph-joestar-omg-shocked-gif-15752227

Same energy

[pastel talon]

What a nice looking young man

[bright remnant]

I hope he never does anything wrong in his life

[bright remnant]

Uh

Spoilers

[thick hull]

the world probably already surpassed 9 seconds cause he brags for 30 seconds lol

[pastel talon]

Oh shit

My bad I forgot about that rule

[wintry rampart]

after finishing stardust crusaders I’m gonna give my opinion on every main character

Jotaro - pretty cool but I felt like he didn’t get enough screen time for being the actual main character

Joseph - Hory Shit!!! He was funny but other than that just kinda there sometimes saying story relevant stuff

Kakyoin - Pretty good character overall, but felt like he deserved more screentime, prob could’ve had enough if his eyes weren’t cut. Also his death, I was spoiled on it, but it still made me tear up. Only other film/tv show that accomplished that was Endgame when Tony died

Polnareff - Wayyyyy too much screentime. Like it’s good that the side characters get time to shine but Polnareff got to do it so much he felt more like the main character of the part instead of Jotaro. Silver Chariot is cool though

Avdol - Kinda meh. Like he’s cool and all but I feel like he’s the weakest mc of the part

DIO - even if it was only a few episodes we saw him he was fucking awesome, even if he killed our boi kakyoin

Villains - Pretty decent except for some of the Egyptian god stands, wasn’t really boring but just felt like filler

didn’t feel like it though is what I’m saying

[bright remnant]

Bruh Polnareff deserves the screen time

[robust linden]

^

He had an arc and alternate goal before he joined the group

[winged crest]

No he doesn't

[winged crest]

Bruh,how'd you forget to mention best dog

[thick hull]

yeah

[winged crest]

Can't tell if u agreeing he doesn't stop time for that long or not

[thick hull]

well for us he stopped time for like 2 minnutes

[distant rivet]

Ah yes, because avenging your dead sister, watching your friend who you just insulted, fighting most of the stand users, and defeating a near undefeated stand user who had just killed your two friends is ** c o m e d y**

Polnareff was comedic, yh

But he also had like some of the most serious shit in Pt 3

[winged crest]

People remember the ha ha

Not the badass

Fsr

[distant rivet]

Fr

[thick hull]

might be perception of the user watching so it appears to be something like 5 minutes but in reality he stops time for 9 to 5 seconds

[distant rivet]

I’m pretty sure DIO actually moves faster than he appears to in timestop

It’s just that he’s moving and walking slowly just so we can get a bit of downtime in time stop

[thick hull]

wait i think ts is spammable for only a set of times like 3 times cause it appears he's teleporting to jojo when he was in the shop

[distant rivet]

Oh yh true

Or maybe it’s only distance related?

He wasn’t too far away from the shop and between Jotaro

[thick hull]

yeah

[winged crest]

He didn't spam it

[thick hull]

ben wanna attack him with me

[winged crest]

He stopped moved monologued

Then stopped moved monologued

[thick hull]

[distant rivet]

I think talking is also a free action

[winged crest]

Yes, but he was talking after time stop ended

I.e. he was waiting to be able to use it again

[thick hull]

time stop seems to have a 5 second cooldown if you stop it early

[distant rivet]

I think so

Idk, it’s DIO with a stand that lets him move while people don’t, he’s going to use it for stupid monologues

[winged crest]

I wouldn't say 5 seconds

[thick hull]

[winged crest]

The cooldown

I wouldn't say it's 5 seconds

Less then that

[thick hull]

i thought you were gonna say something higher

[near star]

@thick hull, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

[thick hull]

kars vs dio

i debate kars win

[winged crest]

That's not a debate

DIO can't beat Kars

[honest flare]

Yeah, baka.

[graceful nebula]

Hello can anyone explain me the last part of Jotaro vs Dio fight ?

[rich spoke]

Kars all the way

[winged crest]

what do you mean by last part exactly

[graceful nebula]

I mean the moment where Dio stopped time for 9 seconds

[winged crest]

DIO's time stop was increased to 9 seconds cuz drinking Joestar blood made him more fused with the body thus letting his time stop be longer

[graceful nebula]

Yea after that i still haven't understand,what Jotaro did so he got frozen

[distant rivet]

Jotaro just lasted longer in time pause basically

He was able to push his willpower because DIO was gloating for the 9 seconds

[winged crest]

he stopped time

time stop has a few seconds of cooldown

As DIO's time stop ran out Jotaro stopped time and DIO couldn't for another few seconds

[glad harbor]

and how did jotaro defeat dio

im confused

[wanton turret]

Star platinum punched the world's knee

[graceful nebula]

Hmm and correct me if i am wrong, Jotaro learnt the Time stop ability when he realised that The World and Star platinum are similar stands ?

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He punched real hard.

[wanton turret]

And plot convenience happens and jotaro wins through that

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epik

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Also the ratings which were shown during the break just a troll ?

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The stand stats? They ain’t trolls.

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People usually just say something that since DIO said to Hol Horse that half his body was weaker because his head was adjusting to it, the time when Jotaro punches DIO, DIO kicks with his leg on the side of the body that’s weaker that ends up exploding himself

But tbh, idek

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Or maybe it takes time to have complete control over body ?

[near star]

@graceful nebula, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

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I’m back, yh DIO needs to adjust to the body in a nutshell

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Dio had absorbed Joseph's body but it hadn't showed its effect instantly

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But he got cocky and used it against Jotaro

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So..How Jotaro obtained Time stop ability ?

[honest flare]

Always had it.

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yeah

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But didn't realise before Dio encounter ?

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yes

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There’s theories he had timestop even from the moment sdc began

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Yo mamas fat ass also always had time stop.

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But only learnt how to use it in the finale

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He did just couldn’t use it.

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Yh

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That’s not a theory.

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Well, it’s not confirmed I’m pretty sure

Wait is it?

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• spoils part 8 *

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FuCK-

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No! Why dead cocktor?

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C o c k t o r .

[honest flare]

Yeah?

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C o c k t o r .

Helicockter

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795338158471774231/804053746350293022/tenor_15.gif

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/779571767680827422/801681496104632320/Thanos_dance.gif

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What?

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Ik this is usually memed on but I always just imagine how much DIO was laughing his ass off when he was moving Polnareff down the stairs

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Dio : Its Rewind Time

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Yaaaaah, murders Kakyoin

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DIO is very gay and looks good.

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Dio's Vampire form was cool
Vampire + Jonathan form was Okish
Vampire + Jonathan + Joseph form was meh

Green lipsticks 😂😂

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All dio good

[near star]

@graceful nebula, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

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dont talk about future parts even in spoiler text

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|| part 8 ||

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banned

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noo

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he punched with all his might

Cuz it's the only fight he ever went all out in

We've already seen him punch trough the world

So idk why people think it doesn't make sense

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I have a major crush on him

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And?

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So? Araki isn’t a genius, he somehow unintentionally wrote him as a serious character at points

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Nonono, DIO + Johnathan is the perfect DIO

When he got the Joseph blood he became...

https://tenor.com/view/dio-brando-head-scratch-jjba-anime-jojos-bizarre-adventure-gif-17885927

uh...

Also, imo Polnareff vs Vanilla ice was better than Jotaro vs DIO

Wait that’s mb. I just came back and I thought you were the person

Oh right

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Ohohoh, you just wait my friend...

Oh yh

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What happen to his appearance when he drank that stuff

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which stuff?

< memory bad sometimes

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Jostar blood

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oh

Idk why his hair stood up, would assume it's just his design changing to signify the change that happened

Change that happened being he became stronger cuz the body is basically fully his now

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Yeah he did kinda get a little bigger

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Iggy was fine but I wish he did more besides just walk around and be an asshole for most of the time

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Why would he

He has been dragged to Egypt against his will

Into a deadly battle

Ofc he's gonna be an asshole to them

[faint void]

OH me DIO i kill jotaro IN another world

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it would be "oh i DIO" not me DIO

[calm summit]

HO KONO DIO DA

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who would win?
levi ackerman
jotaro kujo

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

[near star]

@calm summit, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

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Star Platinum is faster than Levi could ever be

[calm summit]

Jotaro would win

Levi wont stand a chance

Jotaro also can stop time

[grizzled linden]

Levi is a very strong adversary, against non reality bending fighters

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i would have to say jotaro

jotaro would use star platinum and since levi isn’t a stand user he has no chance of seeing star platinum

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Eh, I would give Levi more than that, if Jotaro had like Dark Blue Moon, Levi would win, because FUCK me, would Jotaro be turned to paste in seconds

No, Star Platinums speed and power is what would give him the win, together with time stop

Any blade attacks of Levi would be deflected by Star Platinum with no issue

And Levi would be unable to defend against any of Star Platinums attacks, whether or not Levi could see them, just too fast

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Technically, Polnareff was the first crusader who died. His soul got taken by D’arby

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Hm... t r u e

Polnareff is a real one