#stardust-crusaders

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marsh moat
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dududududuududududu

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moshi moshi?

obsidian stag
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Ye

cold hill
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dudududu

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dudududu

marsh moat
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moshi moshi? bossu?

spice coyote
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The simplest explanation is the most likely one

ruby lintel
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lets gooo

left gate
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dio have hermit purple?

cold hill
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bruh

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you didn't know

marsh moat
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that's johnathans stand

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winged crest
marsh moat
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the world is dio's, and that is johnathans unnamed stand

obsidian stag
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The Passion

marsh moat
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nah the passion is from jorge joestar and that's not canon

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it's just johnathan's stand

winged crest
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Call it DIO's Purple

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It sounds good

marsh moat
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dio's purple guy?

obsidian stag
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Makes sense WHY IS JONATHAN SO THICC IN PT1

winged crest
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Because he's a brick wall

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Yes

marsh moat
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have you noticed the joestars get progressively less thicc

winged crest
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Yes

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Well the original art style was Fist of the North Star like

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And then Araki decided they should be thin

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Which i don't particularly like but eh

wintry rampart
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Hello

wide current
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Hello

wintry rampart
winged crest
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It's all around the world just la la la la la

wintry rampart
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Sutah Purachina: It gouz around za warudo jast ra ra ra ra ra

nocturne roost
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So uh... Vanilla Ice literally used his stand to eat Polnareff’s toes.

stone rose
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His poor toes

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And a part of his leg

nocturne roost
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If your stand has the ability to eat toes, that’s when you know it’s terrifying

pastel cairn
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I found that its stated Jotaro has green eyes but I never seen them green

urban rover
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Jojo's eye color changes in every part

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Anime wise, at least, don't know about the mangas

pastel cairn
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I see it as blue everywhere

forest parrot
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Hermit purple is that one useless chain in those spinny things in the theme parks, especially POLNAREFFLAND

wanton turret
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Though it's stated here, none of the coloured media that feature Jotaro ever shows him with green eyes

urban rover
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Lol greenish

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In the anime in part -spoiler- his eyes do look greenish for like 2 seconds lol

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Ooh Joot's eyes make no sense

wintry rampart
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Did I miss something in part 3?

honest flare
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What?

wintry rampart
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When did it say that Holly lost her stand after DIO was killed?

weary turret
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never

wintry rampart
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Where the fuck does the misconception about her losing her stand come from?

weary turret
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wintry rampart
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Also, how did Joseph not become a vampire at the end of part 3?

honest flare
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Magic.

weary turret
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he just got his own blood stuck back into him

honest flare
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With magic.

wintry rampart
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But getting vampire blood in your body makes you a vampire

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Like how vanilla ice became one

sand anvil
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like CX said, he just got his blood back in him, or magic either one works NiceMan

weary turret
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its not vampire blood

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its josephs own blood

wintry rampart
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It was

weary turret
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it was in dio for like 5 minutes

wintry rampart
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DIO's blood was also in there too

honest flare
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He would’ve also gotten some DIO blood in him.

weary turret
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jotaro punched out all dios blood

wintry rampart
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And your saying only DIO's blood got punched out?

honest flare
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Then why didn’t Joseph’s blood get punched out if it was inside DIO.

wintry rampart
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A 0% chance of Joseph's blood getting punched out?

weary turret
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cause jotaro punched the shit out of him before he sucked any of joseph's blood :v

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jotaro gets ONE punch in afterwards

wintry rampart
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You're trying to say he got all his blood punched out by Jotaro?

weary turret
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enough

wintry rampart
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Joseph should've become a vampire

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Okay?

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Getting vampire blood in your body makes you a vampire

weary turret
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it aint vampire blood tho

wintry rampart
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IT IS

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Oh my fucking god, joseph should've become a fucking vampire

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It's how it works

weary turret
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ya? well explain why he didnt

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😎

wintry rampart
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Araki forgot

honest flare
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Araki didn’t want Joseph to die and there are a bunch of plot holes so magic.

weary turret
wintry rampart
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Then what was the point of vanilla ice becoming a vampire?

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wintry rampart
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Pog

weary turret
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not sure i understand the question

wintry rampart
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@pliant yoke

honest flare
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What?

sand anvil
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what?

pliant yoke
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uh i have been called upon apparently? Hello I am koshi and ive never talked here before but i guess i am now

Joseph's blood was put into DIO's body, there's no way for them to seperate the vampiric blood from Joseph's, so when they did the transfusion, both Joseph's and DIO's would be put into his body, and he would have become a vampire due to DIO's cells, as seen in the case of Vanilla Ice.

The only way Joseph would not have become a vampire is if his blood has residual hamon left in it that fought off the vampiric cells, however, due to the blood not hurting DIO upon consumption, I believe Joseph did not have any hamon energy left when he died.

wintry rampart
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^

sand anvil
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Like jame said, magic

wintry rampart
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about Holly

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we can most likely assume her stand went dormant again (she didn't "lose" it)

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after they beat Dio

winged crest
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Not blood

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And all the women DIO sucked should be vampires and Joseph should be a zombie

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But no that got retconned

spice coyote
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I always thought that like, Hamon had to be channeled instead of it being an innate thing in your blood.
DIO’s blood doesn’t always heal or revive folks, I think it’s something he has to do consciously. I’d imagine that’s how the transfusion worked.

winged crest
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DIO's blood healing and turning people into vampires is only a thing here

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In part 1 Dio drains you and you turn into a zombie

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100% of the time

spice coyote
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Yeah. That’s how I imagine it works. DIO can manipulate his cells to create fleshbuds. Likely the samething with his blood.

winged crest
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Well yes but why can he now just randomly make vampires

spice coyote
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Cuz he didn’t in part 1 🤷‍♂️

winged crest
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I am annoyed by retcons

spice coyote
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Araki has a tendency to do this. Adding new abilities to fit the plot

grizzled linden
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That shits gay

topaz flume
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Bruh

tribal apex
wide current
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Joseph is a lucky bitch who escaped death several times. So obviously he escapes this time as well.

wide current
whole niche
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hello

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so does dio have 2 stands

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if so why didnt he use his other one

robust portal
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The second one was Jonathans, and it’s not useful in combat

winged crest
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That is retconned

wintry rampart
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The thing about Joseph taking in DIO's blood and not turning into a vampire is that Joseph was already a vampire long before Part 2 even started.

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It wasn't said in the anime or the manga, but when Joseph was a baby, Straits coughed on him, turning him into a vampire.

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I know this because I asked Araki about this exact thing and he told me this himself.

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So, really, it just goes to show that you can't always believe what the anime and manga tell you.

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Joseph just hid it very well throughout his time onscreen.

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yeah man

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you're a completely trustworthy source

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Right?

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thank you for spreading good information

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You're welcome

tropic harness
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Guys

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I am confused

sand anvil
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why?

tropic harness
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In jjba eoh if you suck jotaro blood

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Why dio does the "THIS IS THE GREATEST HIGH!"

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The thing that will make you ho high dio

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And stop time for 9 second

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It makes no sense

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Jotaro is a kujo

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Not a joestar

zinc carbon
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Are you serious ?

sand anvil
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not sure, it’s just the games design i guess

past sail
tropic harness
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Not jotaro joestar

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Bruh

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Wait hold up

past sail
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bruh

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are you joking lol

tropic harness
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Oof lol

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Sorry my bad

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I remember now who is holly and the saxophone boi

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Xd

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I just got confused lmao

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But-

wintry rampart
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scanning: levels of intelligence below zero

tropic harness
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Then why dio in the anine just tried to kill jotaro instead of taking his blood

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Bruh

tropic harness
wintry rampart
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I do not care

tropic harness
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I knew he had joestar blood

wintry rampart
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||s/||

tropic harness
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But i got confused for a while

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||epic spoiler text||

wintry rampart
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#joejoeks

tropic harness
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someone knows why then?

near starBOT
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wintry rampart
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#joejoeks

past sail
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bruh

wintry rampart
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#joejoeks

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this is the third time now

modest sapphire
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sorry i didnt understand u but now

weary turret
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but he didnt

dark basin
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ok

delicate agate
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How about a Green Day song

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Like holiday

grizzled linden
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Or the bosstheme for the Hierophant in Hyperlight Drifter

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He should have written an entirely different scenario, like possibly that Jonathan's body was actually ripped to shreds and sank to the bottom of the sea with dios head and in pitch darkness, he has been assembling that body for those 100 years and he has slowly been trying to get to any civilisation point, where hes just trecking through the depths of the ocean, his body narrowly staying together through the massive amounts of pressure the water excudes on him, burrying himself under the sand when any sun came up

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Mabye you can do a really fucking cool design for him, possibly incorporating seaweed and shit

obsidian stag
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He pushed himself into a corner when he was writing how Dio returned

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He most likely was like fuck I totally missed that bit

grizzled linden
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He just went "uhm....secret compartment I guess, uuuuuuh"

obsidian stag
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Yeah

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I was like wait how is that even possible tho lmao

old isle
wanton turret
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Araki really said part2 is just pure filler

wintry rampart
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lmfao

grizzled linden
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Wow

winged crest
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There was already a secret compartment in part 1 wasn't there?

grizzled linden
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Nope, there is no proof that there is one

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0 proof

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If you use basic geomatry, you would see that the depth of the inside goes all the way to the bottom, thus a secret compartment wouldnt even fit

old isle
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There were some traps and it was resistant to explosions but I don't think he said there was a secret compartment

grizzled linden
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And there is no implication of a secret enterence to said secret compartment

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It is actually awfully written, araki should have thought of something way more clever

wanton turret
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Like dio finding another coffin in the boat

dark basin
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The secret compartment is in the roof

grizzled linden
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I mean...that would be insanely fucking conveniant, but...it would genuinly be better

dark basin
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copied the wrong image

grizzled linden
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Hmmmmm, it could fit there, but I see no fucking way you could enter it

dark basin
wintry rampart
dark basin
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ok that makes no sense

winged crest
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This is a bit of a bruh

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Don't care still a great part lul

idle crown
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this theory sounds crazy but what if sps power is to indeed copy other stands ability and keep them and he never tried it again and decided to stay with time stop

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a downgraded version probably

grizzled linden
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...no?

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If that were true, how did he not just copy Anubis' never make the same mistake twice power when fighting polnareff? Why did he not just copy the speed of Silver Chariot to not get hit

winged crest
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That theory has been said before

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That theory is ridiculous

cold hill
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there's nothing to disprove it since you can just say "he never used it again"

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or "he only used it once"

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but star platinum always had time stop

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there were a few instances where it hinted at the power

wintry rampart
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that's...

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actually just SP's speed

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not stopping time even the slightest

cold hill
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he fired a pistol point blank

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it makes sense when you consider that dio's first time stopping time was when he was dodging shotgun bullets

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the world did almost the exact same thing

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if star platinum can dodge a pistol at point blank range than it's like 600x faster than any other stand that exists

obsidian stag
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ZW is the better version of SP

cold hill
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it didn't only dodge, it's arms and fingers moved fast enough to grab the bullet

obsidian stag
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Ye

wintry rampart
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The art books mention that he gained the ability to stop time during his battle against Dio, so he couldn't have been stopping time prior to that.

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SP catching a bullet is likely just its speed.

wintry rampart
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The whole thing basically went like:
“Well, our Stands are very similar. Maybe they’re the same type?” Then the entire first half of the battle was Jotaro finding his ground and attempting to see if he could move, then tried to progress that to full on stopping time

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Everything before with the pistol and the D’Arby fight is just SP being so fast that it appears he stopped time

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It’s mentioned in later parts that people think Jotaro is stopping time but not just because he can, but because SP is just that fast

winged crest
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That's dumb

deep chasm
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Help Me

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someone

floral cipher
ivory turtle
deep chasm
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im listening to goodbye nostalgia on loop

ivory turtle
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Nice

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ivory turtle
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Have fun

deep chasm
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😞

ivory turtle
rose seal
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ORA!

sand anvil
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taco man

deep chasm
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🌮

wintry rampart
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To be fair if that WAS the case then the fight would be over a lot quicker

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The first half hinges upon the fact that Jotaro lacks proper practice in stopping or moving in frozen time

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The shit with the magnets was to test if he could move at all. If he couldn’t, he was screwed. But if he could, he can work until he ultimately learns to reach DIO’s level of time stopping prowess

weary turret
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literally love dio

wintry rampart
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It would have been nice to see stopping time at least presented subtlety in some way before the fight, perhaps without Jotaro's acknowledgement, if possible. That way it doesn't seem as sudden and foreshadows the ability, while also keeping the final fight about the same.

weary turret
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he gets a new power and is trying to figure out what it does

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and hes like "hm maybe it can tank a shotgun blast at point-blank range. lets try it. hey you shoot that at me"

wintry rampart
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Lmao

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#joejoeks

fierce forum
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I wonder how the story would've changed if Avdol actually died against Hol Horse

wanton turret
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Not much I'd say, pol has some trouble with Judgement but just a little jotaro plot armor would do the trick

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They had iggy locate the mansion

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And iggy can locate kenny g in the pillar

fierce forum
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True, I'm guessing if he died then Jospeh would be ok his own against Mariah

wanton turret
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Joseph would more or less handle mariah alone though

fierce forum
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Then Vanilla Ice would've killed Iggy when he would've killed Avdol. Then Polnereff either kills Vanilla Ice, or dies to him and the other crusaders kill him.

winged crest
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Literally only Pol could fight Vanilla Ice

wintry rampart
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I mean Iggy can still legit stand a chance against Vanilla Ice

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If the sand gets swallowed, no parts of Iggy get swallowed

low creek
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yes

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but he small dog

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vs vamp

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if he lead vamp out sun he win

wintry rampart
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Well I mean the vampire shit only started taking affect after Pol stabbed him in the mouth

low creek
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yeah

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i guess

wintry rampart
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Idk what triggers it but something tells me he’d need to weather it out for a while before he can do real damage

low creek
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lol

winged crest
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VI would kill Iggy

dark basin
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How does this dude not have Hamon User

winged crest
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Iggy doesn't have reach

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Polnareff is the only one who could reach Ice while he was in Cream

dark basin
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Jotaro might be able to

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With Star Finger

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Might be too slow though

winged crest
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Too slow is right

wintry rampart
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I mean for a Stand like The Fool, Range is irrelevant; you can basically tank hits to kingdom come

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Plus Iggy’s got speed

cold hill
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star finger's speed is slower than star platinum's movement speed

wintry rampart
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Pet Shop could act quicker because A) he’s a bird, and B) he has projectile moves so that he can shot lead

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VI doesn’t have that with his body being the only sort of weapon he has

thick badger
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ora

winged crest
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The Fool can get hit sure and Iggy won't take damage

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But I don't think he can beat VI

urban rover
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I tried watching SDC in English.... I couldn't get past episode 1

wintry rampart
obsidian stag
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The Dub for pt3 was hard to watch

gilded flicker
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I'm at chapter 21 (The Devi chapters).. there s something that I do not understand.. How come there are so many Stand Users now? when on Part 1 and 2 we didn't see any... Joseph said that for the Joestars is cuz of Dio getting retrieved from ocean, but he also states that there are many others that are stand users since longer.. and There are soooo many.. how the fuck we didn't see any before? will this be explained later? We saw Joseph and Jonathan training with ripple while here ripple is not considered at all.. do I need to keep reading or did Araki simply put it like this to meme over classic 90s Mangas?

wintry rampart
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The meta reason that we didn't see Stands or hints of them early on is because Araki hadn't come up with the idea yet.

In universe, Stands have always existed, but we're only seeing them now because the protagonists have Stands. The number of Stand users overall in the world is still relatively small, and the appearance of all these Stand users gets elaborated on later.

gilded flicker
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so we see so many stands simply because Dio managed to gather them I guess

winged crest
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Yes

topaz flume
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How would we see stands otherwise

forest pewter
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We're all Stand users

winged crest
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All of us are stand users? Quick kill each other while mods are asleep

topaz flume
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Bruh

wintry rampart
winged crest
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Stands were around since ancient Egypt

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We know this

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Because Anubis' backstory

obsidian stag
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^

weary turret
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not quite; anubis was created relatively recently

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its still the oldest stand we know about though, even though there were probably more

wide current
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Yes

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Maybe the Pillar Men had stands, who knows?

wintry rampart
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I’m just gonna vibe in here because I just started Jojo and Stardust Crusaders is pretty good so far I finished the Anubis episode and honestly it kinda pissed me off

obsidian stag
fringe galleon
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oh no

sand anvil
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grr part skipper1!!1!1?1?1?2?2?2??3 how will i live !11!1!1! AngryOmega

left gate
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Ah yes

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Fellow part skipper!

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Don’t mind what these clowns say

fringe galleon
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JoJo community be toxic

chrome beacon
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Part Sk*pper

fringe galleon
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pussy in boots

chrome beacon
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fuck he’s on to me

fringe galleon
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physically

chrome beacon
fringe galleon
urban rover
obsidian stag
urban rover
stone rose
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I miss Kakyoin

winged crest
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Same

left gate
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I miss you

fringe galleon
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oh shit

wintry rampart
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what do you guys think of the part 3 English dub?

left gate
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This ^

wide current
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I have not skipped a single part, be it manga or anime

wintry rampart
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Same

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Skipping is jus

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Yes, we know that some parts are not that mandatory to understand the story but cmon man

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Why even

winged crest
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Careful somebody is gonna explain at u why "you shouldn't question the order people watch it in"

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Even tho they are in a numerical order and i imo find it silly to skip anything related to a show you like (yes even if it's bad)

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Meh as long as somebody who skipped doesn't talk shit about what they skipped i won't bother them

wintry rampart
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I almost ever so slightly wanted to skip part 1 but decided not to because I got Dio being an asshole

wintry rampart
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No problem, I tried to get my friend to watch Jojo she called it boring, I was like “you you’re only on part 1??”

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Like I wanted her to get to at least Crusaders because it’s personally my favorite part

obsidian stag
wintry rampart
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Yeah I’m still new to everything and I’ve managed to spoil the whole show for myself

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Like I know about all the characters and what happens to all of them

obsidian stag
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Dang

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I normally just stayed away from everything until I finish the series

stone rose
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I skipped parts 1 and 2

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But before you kill me and potentially ban me from the server...

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I went back and watched them all

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I've now seen every single animated part and I have read most of the manga

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My friend who introduced me to jojo said it was ok to skip the first part since it wasn't super good

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They said to start from part 2, but when I went on netflix, they listed Stardust Crusaders as season 2

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So that's how I started with Part 3

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Again though, don't kill me cause I went back and watched them all

proven sphinx
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Although part 1 isn’t that good, it is still necessary if you want to fully understand part 2 and some aspects of part 3. I don’t see the point with part skipping but who am I to judge

winged crest
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Part 1

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Is

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Great

delicate agate
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Part 1 is my least favorite part but I still really enjoy it

wide current
weary turret
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largely correct but

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part 3 had a one cour break around two thirds of the way through

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so you'll usually see part 3 as season 2 AND 3

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and 4 as 4 and 5 as 5

ivory turtle
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I enjoyed part 1

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and 2 was also good

weary turret
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theyre fun adventures on their own, but dont really hold up to the rest of jojo imo

ivory turtle
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yeah

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ig

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I liked part 2 more than 3 though

fringe galleon
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who’s the best JoJo character

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and why is it jotaro

wide current
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He's hot

ivory turtle
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hes jotaro

fringe galleon
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im not into men but if i were i would agree

ivory turtle
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same

fringe galleon
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ayee

wide current
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He's Jouta's mom

fringe galleon
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no im not

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i am the American jotaro boys

wide current
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I wasn't talking about you dummy

fringe galleon
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oh sorry

wide current
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I was talking about Jotaro

fringe galleon
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the Japanese one

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the yare yare daze one

wide current
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Yes

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The Japanese-English guy

near starBOT
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fringe galleon
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the ocean man

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the best JoJo character EVER

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he’s the second best

wide current
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Jotaro is best because he's Jouta Kujo's mother

fringe galleon
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lmao

ivory turtle
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you dont have a stand meaning youve never seen star platnuim

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F Mega

wide current
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Oh I've seen him

fringe galleon
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star platinum also has the best stand design

ivory turtle
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hm

wide current
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I'm a similar species as ||future part spoiler aaaaa||

ivory turtle
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ah

wintry rampart
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is ||ocean man|| technically a spoiler?

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 20 !

wintry rampart
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I hope not

fringe galleon
wide current
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We don't necessarily have stands but we can see them and also interact with them as well

ivory turtle
wintry rampart
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ok then

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but

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b u t

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@wide current delete it

wide current
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k

wintry rampart
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you mentioned another character

wide current
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where?

wintry rampart
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there

wide current
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where

wintry rampart
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wide current
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as I was saying, people of my species have abilities but not necessarily stands, yet we can touch and see stands

wintry rampart
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you fixed it already wdym where

weary turret
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kakyoin is the mother smh

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know your JJBML lore........

wide current
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Kakyoin is the dad that laid the egg and Jotaro is the mom

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Smh

fast plover
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HERMIT PURPLE
AND
HAMON!

keen rain
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star platinum reference in rocket league

near starBOT
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@keen rain, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

keen rain
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platinum ranks is a star shape

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star platinum

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prolly a coincedence

glossy wraith
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unpog

wide current
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There's literally an achievement in Genshin Impact called "Stardust Crusader"

glossy wraith
#

coincidence

#

not a jojo reference

#

weebs

wide current
#

Another achievement called "Gold Experience Requiem" exists

#

And some voice actors from the anime are in the game as well

wintry rampart
#

Yes

#

2 of them

#

spoiler and spoiler

#

And even more jojo references

wide current
#

Yes

#

miHoyo people are definitely JoJo fans

#

miHoYo as in the studio that made the game

red raptor
#

Nothing happened here 😮

wide current
#

Yes

primal furnace
#

So guys question

#

He of more clearly straight characters

#

Why does some of fanbase make him gay

wide current
#

Didn't get your question

primal furnace
#

He yaoi shipped all the time

#

When canonical he like woman like him former enemy mom.

wide current
#

Yes

#

He likes Holly

primal furnace
#

I just see a lot gay shipping on twitter

#

I always remember to meme was him being mif hunter

wide current
#

Yes

primal furnace
#

This does not connect

wide current
#

The only reason he's shipped with Jotaro and other males is because of Jouta Kujo

primal furnace
#

...fucking clamp

#

How does that work

#

By the way

wide current
#

Idk

#

Kakyoin laid an egg

primal furnace
#

😒

#

Women and their yaoi

wide current
#

You want something ruined, give it to a group of female mangakas

primal furnace
#

Yeah she will make all boys...love the boys

wide current
#

Yes

#

And then make them lay eggs

#

I'm still haunted by the image of Jouta Kujo and Charmy Green

primal furnace
#

Jesus I need to read one here he because a step dad

#

Hold on what

wide current
#

Yes

primal furnace
#

I need to finish golden wind

near starBOT
#

@primal furnace, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

obsidian stag
#

Milf Hunter Kakyoin is just a Jojoke he doesn't actually like Milf's

#

I how ever I'm your local DILF hunter 😎

wide current
#

Ew no

winged crest
#

What's wrong with

#

Wanting a dad

obsidian stag
#

^

#

Most fictional dudes I simp for are DILF's

dark basin
#

replied to the wrong thing

wide current
#

Lmao

pale minnow
#

So TIL that Hol Horse quit smoking

wispy isle
#

damn

#

dio stopped paying him to smoke

red raptor
#

So that's why Hol Horse doesn't smoke anymore.

wide current
#

Because Araki felt like it

wintry rampart
#

Lmaoo

weary turret
#

always loved this

#

hey.... hol horse changes his mind all the time anyway

#

wonder if araki knows hes like the funniest person on earth

winged crest
dark basin
#

So like

nocturne roost
#

Hey guys, Kakyoin looks weird

wintry rampart
#

Another player chose him

glossy wraith
#

i like color swap cockyoin

rocky raven
wide current
#

Iggy Azalea

pale minnow
#

iggi

hybrid compass
#

started rewatching part 3 and something about the tower of grey really bothers me. IIRC when a stand user is unconcious their stand fades away, when Kakoyin knocks out the geezer shouldn't that have "defeated" the tower?

cold hill
#

that doesn't apply to a lot of stands

hybrid compass
#

so its just like a pick and choose sort of thing?

cold hill
#

also continuity with stand rules

#

is non-existent

hybrid compass
#

damn you jojo plot holes!!!!

winged crest
#

no

cold hill
#

and damn you random citizen

winged crest
#

Stand rules apply to certain stands

#

Some rules apply some do not

cold hill
#

lol

winged crest
#

That's not a plot hole

cold hill
#

bruh

hybrid compass
#

i mean it kind of is

winged crest
#

The stands are at least usually consistant, if a stand can't be seen by normal people, then that stand won't be seen by normal people

hybrid compass
#

not an important one, because its defeated in the same episode but still, thats just some inconsistant shite

winged crest
#

No

#

Stands aren't all the fucking same

hybrid compass
#

yeaa thats inconsistant >:(

cold hill
#

well the biggest stand rule that was definitely cast aside is that "only stands can hurt stands"

winged crest
#

They are all diferent

hybrid compass
#

right but like thats supposed to be a general rule thats applied to stands, it seems to be the case a lot of the time

winged crest
#

No it isn't

hybrid compass
#

at least in regards to the unconcious bit

cold hill
#

???

weary turret
#

he probably faked it

winged crest
#

No rule applies to every single stand

hybrid compass
#

that would make more sense to me

weary turret
#

he's not really an old geezer, he's also a trained professional assassin

winged crest
#

That would be garbage

hybrid compass
#

but stands manifest based on a persons life force or something like that

#

its mentioned pretty early on

#

so if theyre KO'd they shouldnt be able to use their stand

#

but im gonna go with he faked it

weary turret
#

kakyoin hit him hard enough to knock a regular old guy out

#

its possible it just works differently sure

winged crest
#

If every stand worked the same, where is the myster of how it works

ancient kettle
#

I mean there's stands that work past the users death

winged crest
#

Also yes Tower of Grey man faked it

ancient kettle
#

So it's not out of the question at all

cold hill
#

bruh just accept that there were certain rules stated to be true for every stand which were broken

hybrid compass
#

i mean im fully willing to accept that

near starBOT
#

@hybrid compass, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

winged crest
#

EVERY STAND RULES EVER IS BROKEN

#

I say this

#

Often

weary turret
#

stands have no rules

hybrid compass
#

it just that i thought this was a general thing

winged crest
#

Because no rule applies to every stand

#

Not even 1 stand per user, since we have DIO who tehnically brakes that rule

ancient kettle
#

^

#

And polnareff+anubis to an extent

winged crest
#

Some stands can be seen, most can't
Some stands don't transfer damage to the user, most do

#

Case by case on every stand "rule"

#

That ain't inconsistant that's interesting

hybrid compass
#

i dont even really think there are a set list of rules, i just thought that was a basic principal becuase of how stands manifest

winged crest
#

If every stand couldn't be seen the fucking Monkey fight would be dumb as shit

cold hill
#

so yeah everything avdol said at the beginning of stardust crusaders is complete BS

winged crest
#

Or the Car

#

Cuz "what r we standing on"

hybrid compass
#

so is that not a plothole then?

winged crest
#

No

hybrid compass
#

cause like that seems like a plothole, a direct contradiction of something avdol said. ig avdol is just full of shit

winged crest
#

A character talking from their experience doesn't mean they are 100% right

ancient kettle
#

I wouldn't say they're strict rules, just like "common characteristics"

winged crest
#

Cuz they could just not have encountered some type of stand

hybrid compass
#

thats a good point erik

#

i mean also due to the fact that the "rules" and everything is subject to change over the series anyway

winged crest
#

that too

hybrid compass
#

someone mentioned that someone has used a stand after death thats not part of part 3 though right?

winged crest
#

It is not

hybrid compass
#

so maybe initially the KO rule was a thing but then was revised

winged crest
#

Will not get into specifics cuz we aren't supposed to talk about that here

hybrid compass
#

or it just applies to like, jotaro and other similar stand users

ancient kettle
#

What about anubis?

hybrid compass
#

wym pseudo?

#

thats just a sword basically right?

ancient kettle
#

Yeah but the sword had an original user that died

winged crest
#

That's a stand in a sword

ancient kettle
#

And the stand persisted

#

Oh yeah maybe it's just bound to the sword nvm

winged crest
#

Well i mean still

#

The stand tehnically shouldn't be alive

#

But it is

hybrid compass
#

about something you mentioned earlier erik, i dont think that having any kind of rules, like something as basic as "If you're KO'd your stand is also KO'd" would be something that takes away any mystery, considering you learn pretty much everything about a stand anyway

winged crest
#

Well yea but if it's like that

#

Then you'll never be sure "okay character ko'd this guy, did he win? or is this stand still "on"?"

hybrid compass
#

oh hmm

#

yea ok i see what youre gettin at now

wintry rampart
#

Jotaro is one of the few anime characters that actually looks Japanese

weary turret
#

and hes only half japanese!

obsidian stag
#

True so

primal furnace
limber abyss
#

I like to imagine at some point in the recruitment process DIO held and unsheathed Anubis. I don't what would be funnier Anubis trying to mind control DIO and failing, or Anubis being so scared of DIO that he wouldn't dare trying to take him over.

wintry rampart
#

Oh no

topaz flume
#

Maybe both

crisp hamlet
#

Ok is the greatest source of intimidation from Dio his hotness (including calm demeanor) or his power?

#

I think his hotness

wintry rampart
#

What would be funnier? Him trying and failing to mind control. Though I don’t think that’s what happened.

#

I think he just sent one of his minions to fetch the thing, told them “oi this is what the sword looks like, only unsheathe it in my presence”, they find it, bring it to DIO and have it talk through said minion to enlist Anubis into his Stand army

wanton turret
#

Anubis mentions losing to DIO though

idle crown
#

Do you have to wait for time stop to be over or can you release it before the actual time is up? I’ve noticed that never in the series do they do that they always wait for time stop to be over

winged crest
#

Why would they end it

#

Ofc u wanna use up the whole time stop

weary turret
#

like when dio chucks a knife at joseph and counts down evily for the rest of it even though nobody can hear him

#

(as far as he knows...)

near starBOT
#

@plucky horizon, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

weary turret
#

theres no real reason. he's just an evil villain

#

i'd say that counts as spoilers, but even in that case its never actually ended before the max amount of time

wintry rampart
#

It’s cause DIO hams up the moment

#

Actually no that’s an understatement

#

He chews the scenery

grizzled linden
#

He revels in the fact that he can kill people in a way that leaves him completely safe

wintry rampart
#

Wait still an understatement
Imagine the biggest, like, octuple pounder burger and it’s loaded with beef, cheese, bacon, other toppings: you know it’s so unhealthy for you but you just wanna dig right into it

#

That’s the moment that he’s chewing on

#

DIO’s maniacal and takes every chance he can to revel in his newfound power so he counts down because he knows he has so much control at his fingertips

#

Am I the only one who's noticed that Jotaro has shown more emotion in the OVA than he did in the tv series?

winged crest
#

He shows more emotion in the manga

void yacht
#

I hate part 3 IAMVERYANGRY VERYFUCKINGANGRY

past sail
#

why

obsidian stag
#

I don't hate I just dislike it

rich stratus
#

gotem

wintry rampart
winged crest
#

I only love it

delicate agate
#

Part 3 is boring most of the time but when it gets good it gets really good

near starBOT
#

@delicate agate, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 26 !

wintry rampart
#

Yeah Part 3 gets good when it needs to be good

delicate agate
#

The vanilla ice fight is in my top 5

wintry rampart
#

I’m past the episode with the lady and the magmatic shit and Avdol and Joseph

#

Magnet

#

God I suck at spelling

delicate agate
#

That episode is hilarious

wintry rampart
#

Exactly

#

I had to pause because someone walked in

#

And it just looked so, so wrong in all the right ways

#

But that episode? 1000/10

#

I just call it “the very gay scene that should be in a wattpad fanfic”

#

Is it

#

I like SC’s second opening better I’m not even gonna front

#

Damn why’s Wattpad so hated lmao

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 10 !

wintry rampart
#

I’m sure AO3 has worse shit

wintry rampart
#

Yeah I’ve been trying to write a fanfic that’s multi platform across both sites
And it’s been a wild ride trying to deal with that community

idle crown
#

Are vampires less durable than people?

#

I mean dio looks shattered and looks like his bones and skin are soft

#

I don’t think a human of dios build would get his leg sawed off by glass that easily

spice coyote
#

They seem to be as durable as humans.

#

But, obviously not a drawback because they seemingly feel no pain and can regenerate quickly.

idle crown
#

Actually they do feel pain but it seems more like pain Is just annoying for them

winged crest
#

Bruh

#

Rly

#

DIO's body is in a weakened state for most of the fight

#

Vampires are more durable then humans in most cases

#

DIO just has a weakened body

#

He literally mentions it's not under his control fully in the Hol Horse and Boingo episode

spice coyote
#

Bullets rip through straizo, a knife was able to split up a newly formed vampire's arm in two in phantom blood

stone rose
#

So apparently Jonathan had a stand ability

#

But it only awakened when Dio got his stand

#

So technically, Dio had 2 stands

#

The World, and something similar to Hermit Purple

#

Which explains how Dio knew he was being tracked and sent stand users to stop Jotaro and the crusaders

#

Because he used Jonathan's stand to track them

#

Jonathan's stand that Dio used doesn't really have a name, but in one novel, it was referred to as Hermit Purple #2

delicate agate
#

In Jorge Joestar it’s called the passion but Jorge Joestar is terrible so we don’t talk about that

stone rose
#

Yeah lol

delicate agate
#

I still call it the passion because it kind of fits Jonathan

#

Of course that isn’t it’s real name though

stone rose
#

Makes sense, he was a passionable gentleman of course

pearl cedar
#

guys i got a theory

#

DIO and Dio Brando from Part 1 are the same person!

astral agate
#

Imagine having a ship as an stand

left gate
#

Yes

wintry rampart
#

Yes

visual whale
#

Lol

unborn pecan
#

Crazy theory idk about them being the same person what

shut token
#

really good edit : )

nocturne roost
winged crest
#

It ain't wrong

visual whale
#

lmaoo true

near starBOT
#

@visual whale, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

nocturne roost
#

I just realized. Did Kakyoin have like an English class? Cause if you remember from the Death 13 arc, Kakyoin uses a knife to carve letters in his arm while he’s dreaming and it’s in English instead of Japanese.

#

Also Kakyoin with a knife. O_O

wintry rampart
#

English is a mandatory class in Japanese schools. The language being spoken between the group is likely also English.

wintry rampart
carmine plank
#

I like how it is specified that it was drawn in 1990 AD

forest parrot
wintry rampart
#

#joejoeks

forest parrot
#

but tower of gray is a part 3 stando powawa

wintry rampart
#

#joejoeks

winged crest
#

Cringe

fringe galleon
#

im rewatching part 3 again cuz its awesome

#

every episode is just as good as i remember they were

thorny sigil
#

did the little girl even do anything in the show

#

or was she just like the damsel in distress

dark basin
#

anne

weary turret
#

she helped reveal rubber soul

dark basin
#

she uhh

weary turret
#

otherwise not much

dark basin
#

found the monke

thorny sigil
#

oh

dark basin
#

found the yellow guy

thorny sigil
#

almost drowned

weary turret
#

she's just on her own journey

fringe galleon
#

thats dope

marsh moat
#

i forgot waldo died in stardust crusaders

nocturne roost
#

kore wa za warudo da

stone rose
#

Koreiwa*

#

I think

marsh moat
#

do you mean "za warudo toki wo tomare"

stone rose
#

No, what he said is "This is.. The World!"

#

Toki wo tomare is for stopping time

#

Koreiwa means "This is"

marsh moat
#

i am not a japan, does you

near starBOT
#

@marsh moat, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

nocturne roost
#

That face, that fucking face

marsh moat
#

dio nut

stone rose
#

Tfw you finally get the Stando Powah

marsh moat
#

that looks like a what you see vs what she sees thing

nocturne roost
#

I want that for Christmas

stone rose
#

Dio can pass as both of them

marsh moat
cold hill
#

what u see

stone rose
#

Lmaoooo

#

Jotaro the Dolphin

#

Ahhhhh

#

I love Jotaro Dolphin memes

#

Wait a second

#

I just realized something

#

You can't spell Dolphin without Dio

marsh moat
#

that is wrong

stone rose
#

I mean the letters

#

D. I. O.

marsh moat
#

you can't spell dolphin without doi

cold hill
#

^

stone rose
#

DOlphIn

nocturne roost
#

Doi

marsh moat
#

that would be an anagram, then the joke doesn't make sense

cold hill
#

you can't spell dolphin without ph

#

and we all know what that means

carmine owl
#

I don’t

cold hill
#

not referring to the stand from part 5

carmine owl
#

What’s Part 5

proven sphinx
#

bruh

marsh moat
#

a correct version of that joke would be "you can't spell nutrition without nut" if you rearrange the letters the joke doesn't work at all

nocturne roost
#

I mean yeah.

#

He’s right

past sail
#

cant spell diolphin without dio

nocturne roost
#

ehh no.

carmine owl
#

You can’t spell School without Orphan

nocturne roost
#

You can’t spell orange with ORA

stone rose
#

You can't spell Jotaro without Jotaro

past sail
#

yes I can

#

Jotetstaro

#

there

marsh moat
#

you can't spell

carmine owl
#

You can’t spell Jotaro without Ora

stone rose
#

You can't spell Dio without STANDO POWAH

marsh moat
#

you can't spell kakyoin without donut

cold hill
#

you can't make this joke another time or else it'll get old

marsh moat
#

you can't spell alessi without gross

#

i break your rules

carmine owl
#

You can’t spell cheese without cow juice

stone rose
#

Your next line is: "You can't spell..."

carmine owl
#

You can spell Jotaro with Ora

stone rose
#

FUCK

marsh moat
#

you can't spell. NANI?

stone rose
#

Oh

#

It worked on the next person

#

Alright nice

marsh moat
stone rose
#

False, she would look exactly the same as she did in Part 2

#

Cause she doesn't age

marsh moat
#

its got the ifunny logo thats how you know it's funny

wintry rampart
#

mhmm

carmine owl
#

Aging is slowed not stopped

wintry rampart
#

SpeeeedWagOooon

marsh moat
#

you can't spell speedwagon without peed

wintry rampart
#

@marsh moat who you talking about?

#

Who ages slowly

marsh moat
wintry rampart
#

lisa?

#

i know better jojo female then lisa

fringe galleon
#

who

wintry rampart
#

reimi

fringe galleon
#

eh

carmine owl
#

Can’t spell clock without co-

fringe galleon
#

she dead

marsh moat
#

calling her lisa just seems wrong

wintry rampart
#

lisa lisa too long

#

im lazy

marsh moat
wintry rampart
#

No

wanton turret
#

Elizabeth

#

Joestar

wintry rampart
#

reimi looks better

#

ELIZABETH JOESTAR

marsh moat
wintry rampart
#

lmao

fringe galleon
#

where did my message go

wintry rampart
#

Hey mr joesterrrrr!

obsidian stag
#

Yare Yare da mina no baka da wau ta na

Is something Jotaro would say ngl

wanton turret
#

Part4 stuff in part4 chat please, not any part before it

fringe galleon
#

oh my bad

carmine owl
#

My dad just yelled at me for watching JoJo :(

wintry rampart
#

stroheim is a chad

marsh moat
fringe galleon
#

imma continue watching part 3 again when my teacher leaves the google meet

#

ok she gone bye

marsh moat
obsidian stag
#

Ugh I got Japanese class soon ,😔

carmine owl
#

What’s Japanese?

near starBOT
#

@carmine owl, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

marsh moat
#

i'm dreading showing him part 3 because a lot of things don't hold up today

stone rose
#

You're taking Japanese lessons?

#

Bruh teach me

#

I wanna learn with you

#

I only know how to insult people in Japanese

#

Teach me more curse words

carmine owl
#

Lol

stone rose
#

KONO YARO!!

#

TEMEH

marsh moat
#

that means bastard right

stone rose
#

Soda

#

That also means correct

wintry rampart
#

KONO TACO

obsidian stag
carmine owl
#

What’s a taco

stone rose
#

TAKE ME WITH YOU

obsidian stag
stone rose
#

Eh it's fine I'll just go back to watching Japanese people teach it on youtube

marsh moat
#

the you wrote temeh reminds of this annoying ass character

stone rose
#

NANI

#

DID SOMEONE SAY SUSHI

wintry rampart
stone rose
wintry rampart
#

4:17

marsh moat
#

hacker

wintry rampart
#

kono tACO

obsidian stag
#

He says the N WORD

marsh moat
#

oh shit

stone rose
#

Kono taco

#

Lmao

carmine owl
#

I’m gonna say the N word

stone rose
#

I'm pretty sure aho means ass

obsidian stag
#

I don't speak taco

#

Lol

wintry rampart
#

ahou means dumbass

#

or something like that

marsh moat
#

usoppu desu aho!!

carmine owl
#

No

marsh moat
#

one piece gud

obsidian stag
#

What languages do y'all speak?

carmine owl
#

I speak wingdings

#

:)

wintry rampart
#

wingdings best font

marsh moat
obsidian stag
#

Ah

carmine owl
#

I am fluent at English despite being Australian...

obsidian stag
#

I wanna learn Italian, Korean and Mandarin

#

Spanish too

wintry rampart
#

I wanna learn Japanese

#

but like
actually

obsidian stag
#

It ain't hard to get into the basics

#

Kanji is where it gets hard bruh

wintry rampart
#

nope nope nope

#

I hate Kanji

#

there's like 2 bajillion symbols

obsidian stag
#

Ye

left gate
#

I still hear the music

vapid moss
#

I just remembered how much I absolutely hate vanilla ice.

wide current
#

Lmao

hexed sorrel
#

Remember when Jotaro covered DIO in Oil 😃😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🤣🤣🤣🤣

wintry rampart
#

ha

#

ha

winged crest
#

Just ignore it

thorny sigil
#

so did dio just like

obsidian stag
#

Wh-

thorny sigil
#

i’m trying to find a good way to word it

#

how did dio even find out the baby had a stand

obsidian stag
#

Idek

wintry rampart
#

true

weary turret
#

asked

idle crown
#

If jotaro always had time stop and didn’t know how to use it then it woulda been hella helpful in fights where outsmarting was needed

hexed sorrel
#

Time Stop isn’t outsmarting it’s Just the instant win button for Jotaro

fringe galleon
#

if i could have any stand it would be star platinum irl

wintry rampart
#

I think dio could not use vampire things due to Jamon blood from phantom blood jojo

#

Like laser eyes

cold hill
#

if that was the case he would've been liquefied

winged crest
#

If he had hamon in him he'd die instantly

cold hill
#

he still turns to dust from sunlight so if hamon was in his bloodstream he would've died immediately

wintry rampart
#

No no sorry the Jamon would not kill him just make the vampiric powers weaker

winged crest
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Also DIO doesn't know how to Hamon

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Bruh

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Did you watch part 2

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Straizo used Hamon as a vampire and melted instantly

wintry rampart
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The Jamon blood from Johnathan

cold hill
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his vampire powers don't really have anything to do with hamon

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Hamon requires Hamon breathing techniques

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Which DIO doesn't know

wintry rampart
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Not really it requires flowing blood

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Bruh

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Zeppeli literally explains you need to breath a certain way for hamon to work

wintry rampart
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Then how do u explain dio not using laser

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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

wintry rampart
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Eyes

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Idiot

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for example the laser eyes are just super hot liquid coming out of his body

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That's how

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It's not hot

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Iirc

cold hill
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there's no way for hamon to prevent that

winged crest
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Just like rly fast and condenses vampires juice

cold hill
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there are no hamon abilities that limit vampiric abilities

dark basin
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the laser is made out of blood

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the length of dio's TS is determined by how much joestar blood he has

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so using it would make his TS shorter

cold hill
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he has no joestar blood

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the red blood cells in jonathan's body from 100 something years ago are long dead

winged crest
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Let me fix that

wintry rampart
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Dio loses blood all the time throughout throughout the fight

dark basin
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he has Jonathans and he ||gets Joseph's||

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that blood loss doesn't count because Anime Logic

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The bodies functionality is determined by the blood in him cuz the more he drank the better fused he became

wintry rampart
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The Space Ripper Stingy Eyes fluid is also just described as vampiric fluid, so it doesn't seem to be blood.

winged crest
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Also he drains a lot of blood

wintry rampart
dark basin
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that blood loss doesn't count because Anime Logic

winged crest
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I'm pretty sure the vampire essence is just the shit that makes zombies

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I remember when those were a thing...

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But now his blood just makes vampires

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Cuz logic ig

cold hill
wintry rampart
winged crest
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Huh

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???

wintry rampart
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Vampirism also originally was unlocking the brain's potential by piercing certain spots, but I guess the rules changed and now blood can make vampires for some reason because Jojo logic.

cold hill
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the average lifespan of a red blood cell is less than 4 months

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It would contain joestar DNA

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So

cold hill
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bruh

winged crest
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Do I remember right?

wintry rampart
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What

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No jotoro sucked up villina

winged crest
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What in hell

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Are u on about

wintry rampart
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What

wintry rampart
cold hill
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do you not know how cell production works lol

wintry rampart
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Yes they are made by

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He swallow himself with Cream right after he comes back to life, so ig he was already a vampire.

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The cells that would have joestar dna

winged crest
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Huuuuh

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Why god

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Why did he have to write that in the art book

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That's