#stardust-crusaders
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i mean, Gambler arc felt a tad boring at times but i enjoyed it
Atumโs design btw
which is why i said mediorce
Oh
above average
Strength is just
pedo ape
and i hated it
the worst JoJo episode i've seen is from Part 4 though and
well, i havent seen all of Part 4 so i aint touching #diamond-is-unbreakable yet
Oh yeah that strength episode was really fking weird
^
Lmao
bad joke
the last time an anime tricked me into watching another genre of anime, it was Zombie Land Saga
but yeah
worst Part 3 arc is Strength, obvs
Tarot Arc in general had a lot of weaker foes though, but thats ok
the only exception or two, is probably Hol Horse
and maybe The Sun, even though he was instantly defeated
actually, just one strong foe for that Tarot Arc
yeah
i love Hol Horse
i do have a theory and some ideas for him that i wished happened in the actual canon
i could explain them here right now, if you want
a what if scenario
well?
sorry
was busy
anyway
i though of Hol Horse
being part of the group
and while he is similar to Pol
i'd change some of his qualities
instead of just being into girls like Pol is, i'd make it so he'd be a chick magnet, while Pol is the unlucky one
ever heard of Futurama? Zapp Brannigan is a character who acts like a jerk towards men but does well with the ladies
thats the kind of person Hol Horse would be
even though he would be of use for the team, he'd mostly be a jerk with a heart of gold
only in it for revenge aganist Dio
he'd often crack up with jokes, and try to outsmart the group with his plans that would fail
he'd be a stark contrast to Polnareff, rather than just being similar to him
however, what would be nice?
...actually before i go on
is it alright to spoil Part 3 here?
What does Dio being bi have to do with being a Jobro
Thats epic ngl
rly?
Idk man looks like sarcasm
Idk
Both
I have another one
You will get smited by the mods
but its part 3
@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
this one also
I think u safe now
Heretige For The Future
Ps1 game I believe
Basically 2d has almost every character from part 3 every battle location from part 3
It's part 3 the game
It also has part 2 joseph
Kars was planned at some point but didn't make it into the actual game

It's part 3 the game
not to be confused with the actual stardust crusaders game, which is something completely different
Oh fuck me there's another one?
on the snes super famicom. it's just called "jojo's bizarre adventure"
Oh right
i think it has a translation patch too
I just know there is one that has secret characters like Brave Kakyoin, Black Polnareff etc
Oh ok
yeah theres like six different versions of HFTF
cause its an arcade game with too many home releases
I thought it was 3!
not sure on the exact number but there's a lot
Oh yeah that game
Can we just get a HFTF style JoJo game, but all parts are in it
HFTF does actually have spoilers up to part 5, for what it's worth
glorified taunt
What if Polnareff, Avdol, and Iggy went to fight that Video Game guy?
And then Jotaro, Joseph, and Kakyoin fight Cream instead?
Jotaro Joseph and Kakyoin die
That's what
And then Polnareff kills Vanilla Ice
Then DIO kills him
End of part 3
video game guy
Telence D'arby
^
๐
I'm pretty sure pol and avdol lose to younger d'arby
they don't look like they play video games and they can't cheat
iggy epic gaymer
^
Dodge
Crossfire Hurricane is dogable
Everything is as long as he can read Avdol's soul
if all three of them attacked at the same time though
Hey man i dont remember All the people's name who show up in JoJo
not even jojo?
who is jojo
Which JoJo

Nani?
Hello im Kakioyn Noriaki :3
Aight, imma head to Dio's mansion
me too
ight boys road trip ๐ณ๐ณ๐ณ
yall know people can make fake locations on google maps right
like theres a dozen freddy fasbears out there according to google maps
Haunted Ralph R Rat pizzeria
@calm solstice they have to get verified

@civic fox yea old Cairo
I'm writing fanfiction and I need to know something immediately. Has Joseph ever referred to Jotaro as "son", "kid", or some other affectionate nickname?
Thanks
i decided to skip BT
i watched 14 episodes of it and i spoiled myself already sadly
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oof
but i mean, the opening spoils enough
kinda lul
yeah its probably still enjoyable even if you already know whats coming
whatever you want bro
Pb was so good... better than BT tbh
truth
wasn't there a remastered version of the first episodes?
not to my knowledge
hm
Skipping parts
Heresy
And i knew the everything that was gonna happen and enjoyed the shit out of it
And the op doesn't spoil anything if you don't already know
Oh yes i remember that moment
Hey guys I'm new
Hi new Iโm Tachi
hi tachi, im falssie
Hi falssie, I'm Eriksonn
Dakara, anata wa watashi ni chikadzuite imasu ka?
(So you're approaching me?)
Part Skipper
shut up already
if i don't like it i can skip it
i already know what is going to happen
i got the plot already
Don't mind him, read or go through it however you want
Just dont talk shit about the parts you skipped and you should be fine
i don't really like BT, i'll skip it from the middle on. like, i should be in the middle of BT, i already spoiled myself in BT and i don't really like it at all. i won't shittalk them but they are... they are okay.
i want dio's ๐ ฑ๏ธones
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no talking abt future parts bro
@wintry rampart sdc is worst part imo and you skip bt which is such a great part instead :lmaooooo:
Chill tf out
He can do whatever he wants
In reality gatekeeping only turns people away instead of getting them to listen to everything your saying
My only issue with SDC is that it felt like it dragged on
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If it seemed like I was gatekeeping, I was not, I couldnt give two shits about having people watch what i think is great, I was just saying that if i had to skip any i would skip part 3 instead of 2
@rare osprey everyone has their own thoughts about seasons parts of JJBA and i personally don't like BT, that is why i skipped it. I also know the ending of it already. Surely, sometime i'll watch BT fully. but i should be in the middle ending of the part.
Judging something without watching it :poggers:
he did watch like half of it lul
bruh
Judging something without watching it :poggers:
@rare osprey
does it even care what i say or no, cuz you only CAN watch all parts of it before starting the next one.
but why should i, when i already know the end? ceasar is dying the other guys are doing shit and wham, joseph wins.
Judging something without watching it :poggers:
This is so dumb it's like saying it's bad to like/not like a game because you haven't played it
He knows how the story goes anyways, so nothing's stopping him
Do you watch Fellowship Of The Ring and skip straight to return of the king?
I knew like how 6 of the parts were gonna end, so there was no point of me watching jojo right?
when did we say that?
It's the same thing
Skipping trough the story
To quote somebody else from this server "If your gonna skip why not just skip the whole show"
I dont care if you skip or not my point was that part 2 doesnt deserve to be skipped, if you skip well your loss
I agree with that so much with the exception of part 3, hated the journey 
I loved it
Thats cool
Lets agree to disagree
This is Poo!
Is the poo coming soon?
I cant shit
tf
Why is there a meme in a channel that isn't JoJokes
People
@steep yacht get the meme out of this channel
^
Dakara, anata wa watashi ni chikadzuite imasu ka?
Baby Stand
Yes
Same hehe
Among others xD
Ahh I love Noriaki so much
I roleplayed as him many times
Wanna see my drawing of him?
sure
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yesn't
I'm almost done with Stardust crusaders cant wait to see what happens
Wat episode u on
oh boy
thereโs this boy in my math class and whenever he sees a person wearing a cowboy hat heโs like โis that the WHOLE HORSE?โ
that kid? hol horse
i drew this for him today
The ongo bongo brothers where the best characters with the strongest stAnds do you guys agree
Omfg no you canโt draw that, thatโs even worse than just cursed
Same
๐ฎ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐พ ๐ ๐๐ผ๐บ๐ ๐๐๐พ๐ฝ ๐๐พ๐๐๐๐๐
apparently its an album by the police
Ongo Bongo aint localization name but ok
Nani!? XD
Nebula Raiders
@cursive shuttle #memes-and-images for non-jojo related images please
and #manga-jojokes for non-serious or non-discussion related jojo images
please
congrats on finishing it~
Or time stop version
its the one with no SFX but has the Dio vs Jotaro
ep. 48 has SFX and Dio vs Jotaro
Also, is it me, or is the Next Episode Preview for Death XIII (Part 1) really fucking scary?
It has nothing but the baby crying, and then a fucking jumpscare of Kakyoin screaming
Lmfao your description cracked me up
I think I woke my parents up from the laughter
Hm, ok lol
jotaro kuko
is not a tsundere
he doesn't hate women, he's just an asshole
he's played as a comedic character when it comes to women because he just has no interest in them in part 3
that doesnt make him a tsundere
or a misogynist
that's just how he expresses his attitude towards that type of behavior
oh but he is
do you really think he didnt care about that little tomboy girl?
he cared,in his own tsundere way,he wanted to protect her
ofc
jotaro is a classic tsundere
he just keeps a cool exterior
how is it different! thats the point
he cared abt anne like a child
yeah I also remember that scene where she almost died and Jotaro saved her and he was like "D-don't think I wanted to save you" and he was blushing
not like a potential love interest
she physically looks 10 years younger
there was a tsundere scene
ughhh no
isn't tsundere like exclusively for romantic interest?
look jotaro being a tsundere is a funny meme but it's not actually accurate to his character at all
and even if it wasn't a romantic thing, a child is different
there's not enough to prove he's a tsundere
I mean he can be, there's just not enough to establish that
he aint tho
again but then if he wasnt a tsundere araki wouldnt push off the comedic "girls annoy me" so much
obviously he doesnt want us to think he hates women
but if Araki wanted to make him a tsundere then he would've added more
he would've added more development to that idea
but him being annoyed by girls freaking out over him and then saving a small child in danger
well i think him being a tsundere is much more logical than him having no regard for women
even when hes much more mature in part 4 he still screams at the schoolgirls like hes a maniac
I mean, that's not much
it aint that deep
but how is that more logical
okay volume one chapters 4 and 5
the entire part shows him as this guy who doesn't give a fuck about anything and just wants to kick ass and eat hot chip
jotaro interacts w the schoolgirls in complete disregard and annoyance
theres nothing more than that
its not some subtle nod to his emotions
jotaro is just Awesome Cool Epic guy who Dont Give A Fuck and theres nothing more
yeah
he's what emo edgy guys SWEAR they are
look i have no interest in delving into "what's jotaro like with women" im legit just trying to counter the idea that jotaro hates women
obviously his character gets developed more in future parts
He cares for the people he actually cares about I feel
he doesn't hate women
and its not that he hates women
jotaro cares for ME
he's just not interested
he just doesn't respect it when women freak out over him and surround him
If you want to learn more about his character finish 4-6
or when they get all loud
jotaro doesn't get along with strangers well altogether
and I'm sure this applies to guys too
jotaro is antisocial
thats what i mean,there is a social awkwardness aspect to it
he's just an asshole
@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
Letโs be honest itโs really annoying if thereโs a bunch of girls you donโt know all over you
he;s not an asshole hes just weird
I wish I could tell a group of people to fuck off if they're annoying me like that
Like you donโt even know them
jotaro is nice
film theory
I also never got asshole vibes from him,again,more like edgy socially awkward slight tsun vibes
I don't think he's socially awkward
I think he's aware of what he's doing
he just simply doesn't care
has no interest in presenting himself in any other way
not his style
wheres the fuckin uhh
You have to also realize that Jotaro is literally a teenager in this part
character page for jotaro
exactly,so it makes sense a teen is socially awkward and edgy
what kind of crack did araki smoke to draw a 17 year old like that
the good kind
jotaro thinks himself a person "easy to read"
You should see what 15 year olds look like lol
whenever jotaro responds to a question with silence, you can sorta tell that hes suspicious or thinking of some plan
or thats what jotaro thinks at least
tbh after binge watching all of the parts in one month if theres one character that i really remember as iffy towards women was ceaser but it doesnt matter cause i love that boy
hes supposed to be the stereotypical flirtatious prettyboy
dio
bam
yeah i dont mind it at all,im js i dont get the jotaro hate when theres clearly "worse" examples
Oh lol that interview
yeah we dont talk abt this interview lol
shokotan ๐
jotaro asexual confirmed
hes gay idiot
Sheโs a good singer but that interview kinda cringe
but anyways this isnt jotaro hate im just sayin he didnt care abt women at all in part 3
that interview is beautiful
๐
she literally says jotaro is tsundere and he says no in the interview lmao
but tsundere doesnt mean obessed with women
twitter is the dumbest place
he;s not deredere
"Shoko: I like it! It's tsundere.
Araki: Eh, he is more of a straightfoward guy."
copied straight from the interview
lmao no way
yep
here's the interview if you want to look yourself
future part spoilers tho
Wtf part 4 in sdc
theres stuff going up to part 7 spoilers in this interview btw
good to know
man im just gonna read some interviews now these r bangers
I actually like the fact this part and in general jojo is not focused on romantic relationships
obviously this part has a big emphasis on friendship but i think every part has it
they get a lot more romantic later lol
so ive heard
I'm not a fan of that
the girl on twitter whom ive asked why i think jotaro hates women says "he states that he hates women in the first or second episode of stardust crusaders? it's pretty straightforward"
what
jotaro is incel
well idk LOL
even if he did
jotaro browses 4chan confirmed
it's likely an exaggeration on his part
yeah again we all know its a comedic platform
i dont understand how people seriously watch through and miss that gag
cuz people are dumb
twitter is full of people with the most wild observation of simple things
what is this discord?
jooj
Jotaros Bizarre Adventure
i hate twitter
just like how Jotaro hates women
all of them
not a single woman he actually sorta likes
every all of them
Bruh
Wtf
You sure about that
yep he hates them all it's true
You know part 6
someone on twitter said it
cough

omg someone with an active account on twitter is named "Araki hates women"
it's almost like I just got done talking about how I don't think he hates women
ok im done with the internet,im done
brother that's Twitter

you're gonna find stupid knuckledragging idiots on twitter every single day
i dont go on twitter alot so im legit culture shocked
People actually use twitter seriously?
I only go on Twitter to find idiots
I just use it for finding art lmao
I find art too, just different

was legit triggered by that username ugh
bait account
well it worked on me LUL
yeah it's probably just bait
either it's bait or it's someone who needs to be spoon fed by their mom
started muting accounts regularly now
ok its probably a bait,thank god. im so happy its a joke LOL
it would have been tragic if it was someone serious
get used to it cuz you're gonna end up seeing worse and it won't be a joke
im okay with anyone that doesnt have the word araki in it , im only a month in the fandom and hes already god tier for me
Porn
๐ณ
Pornareff
Hey when did the guys start calling themselves "The Stardust Crusaders"?
Or did they just call themselves "The Crusaders"? Either way, when did they start calling themselves that?
Oh, I swear that Avdol named them that after naming Star Platinum

Probably cuz Dio means God
And itโs either Star Platinum or the star on the Joestar backs
Probably star platinum
I found a clip of Advol naming Jotaro's stand. He used tarot cards. Also, there's a nice bit of foreshadowing about Dio's stand and Jotaro's stand that I never noticed before.
I had this idea for about 4 years. It's still awful.
ZA THICC
THICC
Hey, anyone got that one OVA gif where Iggy fucking dies?
Yeah lmao

i have the airpods edition
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oh fuck
ofc i do
Iggy no he's still alive
-polnareff

thx pol
He's wearing airpods, he cant hear us
a

๐ช 
So I'm gonna rewatch Part 3 and I hope i like it better because the first time i watched it was a pain
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Hol Horse
From the several people who said in this server I think you might
Cuz several people said was boring then I rewatch then I loved it
And I loved it rewatched it and loved it more :p

Well I'm watching Part 3 dub on Nexflix and I'm at the part where Kakyoin does his 20 meters radius Emerald Splash

I know what's gonna happen but I still cry

Part 1 and 2 had a good dub but Part 3 is okay
I disagree on all 3 of those but whatever you like I guess
it wasnt boring,but i defintely had battles i skipped,i dont mind getting hate for it,watching anime shouldn't feel like a task
some parts of part 3 felt like a task
Which ones
@winged crest i didnt skip complete battles like i saw all the stand users some just didnt interest me as much as others
I see
to me liking battles was an acquired taste,only after watching a considerable amount of shounen shows did i even start to like battles in anime
now i appericiate battles and all but it's still not the reason i watch shounen
wait part 3 is already on netflix?
yep
english and japanese?
yep
nice
love battles in shounen all i need are huge guys beating the shit out of each other for a show to be good
I watch it for the story/ characters / battles
well as a teenager weeb i didnt watch shounen at all ๐ as i said it was an acquired taste for me
Watched Dbz, Naruto as a 11 year old
Didn't watch anything til I was 16
Anything else
As in no other anime
Then at 16 I just went balls deep into weebness :p
i was more into girly anime until i realized as i got older anime has no boundries and i should not judge an anime by its cover
And I pulled a friend down with me xD
well naruto is an exception,everyone watched shows like dbz,naruto,pokemon
I know people who don't know what any of those are
And people who didn't watch them
well in my country it was aired in childs channel
Same here
so its pretty normal to have watched this shows as a kid
Heres a Gif if anybody can't download one ๐
Anyone know the name of the OSTas Polnareff is telling the Crusader's about his sister's murder?
Track 13 : Sadness from Stardust Crusaders (Departure)
Thanks a million
was he called Cool Ice in the OVA or was it Vanilla Ice?
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Cool Ice is localization name
Ew
In the OVA he was called Iced
At least cool ice Is still a reference
Becouse "as cool as ice"
AKA that movie jontron reviewed and that we already managed to fill the comment section with jojo references.
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lol
i love the german subtitles for crusders on netflix.
"You're going to be going to defeated being!"
Dio's friends when he was a kid are dead now
Dio never had friends
I can relate
There were those ruffians that hung out with him but if they were real friends, we coulda seen them as his co-vampires
Or at least zombies
Remember when dio could summon in a whole army of vampires? And turn anyone into a vampire? Yeah araki doesn't
i mean he turned vanilla ice into a vampire
and after battle tendency spw knew how to immediately kill vampires
Also I think itโs very problematic if u can only attack the Crusaders at night
Still waiting for joesph to die I hate him
Ur in for bad luck
Horee shiiit
And Araki didn't forget anything
Hamon + a stand
What? Thereโs no way. No one can just deflect the Thunder Cross Split Attack
Imagine if someone deflected the emerald splash
Yeah the one time it happened
Cuz the target could stop time
And when Star Platinum just withstood it
And Araki didn't forget anything
I dont remember any of that
Knowing this franchise, I am not surprised
Yep i dont remember
@wintry rampart you can't say that name here
No mentioning future parts in older part chats
Delete what? @rare osprey
@wintry rampart
Go Ahead Mr Joestar
This must be the work of an enemy stand
Yes yes oh my god
Yeah. Happy times.
Both of you are wrong
Yeah this is an enemy stand
Remember when jotaro said "yakamashi" to his mom and his mom be like : okay
@tough nacelle remember when Joseph called you Barbie?
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Remember when Joseph hated on Japanese coffee but it was actually American coffee
Remember when Dio was Dio but then he died?
Remember the time when Jotaro put his hand on some guyโs chest but then he realized the guy was a girl
oh that kid
Darbyโs daughter
Remember when a monkey tried as well? @wintry rampart
Remember when Joseph and Avdol were getting it on with each other
oh thats moment
Remember when Avdol and Polnareff pissed togheter?
Remember when Polnareff wanna go to toilet but theres a pig
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Remember when Darby went, โGo Ahead Misturr Joesturrโ
Remember when Jotaro cheated ?
oh on the game
Remember when Jotaro went ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
A yes 20 seconds of ora
Or 2 pages of ora
He would control time
He would be time
what the fuck is that thing you guys are talking about
SDC never mentioned anything about that
(this means to delete what you guys are talking about that isn't sdc)
what is SDC
Stardust crusaders
so please, i humbly ask you guys to delete what you've said about it
I remember that blonde vampire
Rerorerorerorero
remember this part
"He drowned in the desert"
again please, but slow.
You can though
but i mean... no
By choking on your own drinking water, or mayhaps drowning in an oasis
oingo boingo
what the twat?
my fav opening actually
So discord went down huh? Now I can speak my wildest thoughts without fear of retribution! Here it goes...
I think that It would have been more interesting to have Suzie Q run the Speedwagon foundation rather than some nameless CEO. That way her inclusion in part 3 would have been more impactful and she wouldn't have been such a non-presence in Stardust Crusdaders.
Go Ahead Mr Joestar
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Joestur*
HAIL 2 U
Should have wished for Dios death/location
I know it wouldnโt have worked but still man
thats a great op
It's the only op I didn't skip through Jojo
never skip jojo ops
proceeds to skip jojo ops
I went through all of jojo without skipping an op
can someone tell me why jotaros pants cost so much
he said 20k yen
20k yen is 260 cad or 187 usd
he wears a uniform
It's okay, his pants regenerated
but he says that he ripped his 20k yen PANTS not uniform
he literally only wears a uniform the entire part
did the chain its 5kg on jotaro uniform
he doesn't say that his uniform was 20k his pants was 20k
the pants are part of the uniform
wasn't his jacket also, like, 30k?
@harsh heart his pants were 2k.
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pretty expensive tho
How?
the both of them became magnetic
How did they became magnetic?
because they were affected by Mariah(the dark-skinned woman)'s stand
it makes people magnetic
She is not
Oh
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Also Jotaro?
Jotaro is half-japanese
His dad was japanese
Why DIO steal Jonathan's body?
Because he wanted to survive, and Jonathan was the nearest person
What are these questions
Jotaro and Joseph are Joestars, and they are linked supernaturally to DIO, who is using Jonathan Joestar's body
Pay attention
when DIO awakened his stand, it also awakened Jotaro's and Joseph's
Oh ok
He is either at part 3 and isn't paying attention or he is just here for spoilers
Or he started part 3 and skipped part 1
Or he's never actually watched or read JoJo and just knows stuff from reading these chats
2.6k cad and 1.8k usd
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ok
every josh star is stinking rich
yare yare...
Just get spw foundation to pay for it
200,000 yen is like $1,860
100 yen is 90 cents
It rised surprisingly
It was 100 = .80 a few months ago
i love this mf intros
You are the most powerful human vampiere alive. imagine getting beaten up by a simple student because you pissed him off.

@tender furnace have you read other parts? Then i could use examples of relativity
Anyways let me get to the basic points
Star Platinum is a happy boy therefore it's cool
Letโs get down to Basics
-Mulan Man
Stand fights were pale and not creative besides older d'arby
Jotaro and dio were terrible characters
It was repetitive af
Generic villain of the week formula and even the final villain, dio was super cliche
Jotaro was awesome. I could really relate to he and Kakyoin
Being a Japanese person elsewhere is fun
No he was not, his entire character was just edge thats all
Kakyoin was cool
Really liked kakyoin and polly
Jotaro is a bad example of a mary sue character
No development, no depth, nothing
Jotaro was an awesome character
But is op af
He brings out what the Japanese audience likes
I just said why he was not you cant just say oh he was awesome without saying why
And I'm part of that
Hes awesome because I say so
You don't have to think so
I do, though
Even if he does bring out what japanese audience likes that doesnt make him an awesome character
To us it does
Also, i think we were arguing but you just went on agree to disagree path
I am Jotaro
Ig this is where it ends then
I'm just saying my opinions
I don't care enough to debate over a Japanese character and two foreigners
I can relate to jotaro best so far
@junior perch why do you suck? Given that you are jotaro
So hes my favorite
Look random japanese name guy
We clearly came here with intent to argue, you are just being like oh its my opinion lets agree to disagree
If you want that then cool but make up your mind
I didn't say anything about arguing myself
I just wanted to Express why I like him
jotaro good
Jotaro good
@tender furnace i said i wanted to argue and you said ok and pinged me here
So yeah you gave me green signal to lets argue
I have nothing against people who like jotaro its just that i wanted a good debate but welp
Can you then explain why Johnathan or Joseph are better?
Jonathan is a basic Shounen hero
I never said Jonathan is better
You said jotaro was the worst jojo
Overall jotaro has somewhat more character than jonathan in part 3
But atleast imo jonathan was more likeable, he was never a mary sue character he had to achieve stuff and get over many things
Not like jotaro lmao who was given everything by plot armour
I dont think i even need to explain joseph
I find Jonathan boring
Rude to who? And dont mention that here its a spoiler
And like Joseph as a character, but he can't be my favorite
Nice spoilers
My point stands
And also lets not talk about beind rude :aotlaughingM1: thats like what jotaro does most
You made no point
Best jojo is George
Jotaro is probably the most rude JoJo
You legit made no point wdym your point stands
Can we agree on that
Not probably, he is
Like none of the other JoJos to this point have been as rude as part 3 Jotaro
But thatโs the point of his character
His character is pointless its just edgy teen being edgy teen
I really like his backstory too
And how in the first episode it implies hes already tried to kill himself
#edge

It was implied
Jotaro shoots himself just to feel something
It was just proved that star plat protects him from any danger lmao

Jotaro did not try to kill himself because he was depressed or some shit
They look dead ๐

Then how did he know that a gun wouldn't hurt if he hadn't done it before? The officer says that nobody shot him in the fight
jotaro's show in the jail cell was a legitimate suicide attempt, araki's book clarified
^
He did it to prove to them that star plat protects him, what the heck
Jotaro was not depressed in any way or anything was wrong with him
How did he know it would protect him if he hadn't done it before
he did it to protect others from him obviously
he thinks he's a danger to other people and wants to prevent himself from harming others
Jotaro be like โI must end it all to save it allโ
โIn the endโ
โIt doesnโt even matterโ
Let me say what i think
He got into fight
Star plat whooped their asses
He went :0
He tried experimenting with different stuff, locked himself up
Experimented more and went further with each thing eventually gun
I dont remember it being said that he had no father figure
His dad just wasnt there at the time
And thats no reason for being edgy
His father left to go get milk at the speedwagon foundation
yeah it says he's "always on tour"
My friend has no dad he is like the opposite of edgy
well draw your own conclusions anyway
@rare osprey anecdotal evidence
Doesnโt even show up when his wife is dying
End of argument
I have no idea what anecdotal means
Itโs a fancy word for its bullshit
ye his son disappears and his wife's out there dying and he still doesn't show it's pretty fair to say that he's not there much
It means you are cherry picking arguments
Oh so a real life example is bullshit and your own theory about someone not having a dad makes them edgy is legit?
yeah
Understandable, smart argument
@rare osprey
anyway forgot how much i hate arguing about jojo later
@tender furnace, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
evidencecollected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimon
Its using personal stories
To argue
And is in Ill faith
And what did you use to say not having dads make people edgy?
I didn't say that
He's edgy because he had no father figure
@tender furnace
I said not having a father figure can lead to it
How?
How did you come to that conclusion? 
Lack of attention from two parental figures
A child needs substantial attention from both parents
I mean holly paid too much attention as wel saw
And lack of it can be damaging
And dont kids become mischievous instead of edgy if they want attention?
Like edgy is the opposite of the effect it has
Said what? That not paying enough attention made him such a dull character?
Is there a non English channel
@rare osprey you know, a lot of him can be explained through subtleties
But I'm done
how many times did joseph use hamon in this part
Idk man
He got no development or depth, you are trying to justify that
Idk man even if you could justify a bad character is a bad character
ive counted 4
@wintry stag quite a few
I just remember dio, tv, and that hand thingy
- against flesh bud
- against the empress
- against the lovers
- against dio
thats just off the top of my head
Wait which one was empress?
one stuck on his hand
Arm?
yea arm

mb
I think youโre right tho
Arm = hand prove me wrong
I donโt count an arm as a hand
So you say that a bad Mary Sue doesn't have character development, is op for no reason, and is bland
That's the definition of a Mary Sue
It's a crap character
And Jotaro isn't edgy
And he is awesome
Jotaro is just awesome
Jonathan isn't bland he is also awesome
So you say that a bad Mary Sue doesn't have character development, is op for no reason, and is bland
Didnt say that's what it means
I added those with whats mary sue
You said Jotaro is a bad Mary Sue cuz of that
1 he ain't a Mary fucking Sue
2 those things are what a Mary Sue is
I didnt say because of that
I said he is all thay and a mary sue character and he is
He is literally the strongest fucker in part 3
I havent watched captain marvel yet :pepewhy:
And so I have heard








