my goodness what was i thinking?
#stardust-crusaders
edgy cipher
There is good reason to believe that part 9’s protagonist will be lesbian
wintry rampart
dio x jojo
edgy cipher
But I won’t get into it in the part 3 channel
chrome beacon
Oh please do in whatever channel it is unless it’s 7 or 8
Because I’m not done with those
chrome beacon
you didn’t finish six
wintry rampart
I'm halfway thru
wintry rampart
I'm a part jumper, I consume parts based on mood
chrome beacon
And I read part 6 in three days and dear god did I not do anything else
wintry rampart
mostly still abosrbing p5
wintry rampart
Yea same, especially since it got animated
and also i got thre ps2 game working on emulator
next depot
Remember when Jotaro could fly?
wintry rampart
remember when kakyoin was estalished as jotao's bf but he got donuted?
bronze loom
rerorerorerorerorero
foggy narwhal
bruh my friend just watched iggy die and he is exploding in this one discord chat im in and im just laughing in the corner saying shit dog died and now we love him
its beautiful
oak horizon
Yes
foggy narwhal
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes
oak horizon
kick
foggy narwhal
Yes
the kicking cuz of cosplaying as dio
wait
if you cosplay as dio, will vanilla ice beat you to death for it?
only one way to find out
smoky parcel
i swoon over dio cosplayers and i’m not even ashamed
foggy narwhal
who doesn't ngl
near starBOT
@foggy narwhal, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
inland herald
Is part 5 a better part 3 or worse?
wintry rampart
They're both equally good and flawed
just flawed in different ways and good in different ways
inland herald
Yeah i found part 5 to be a lot like part 3 just more serious
foggy narwhal
at least thats my opinion
Honestly Part 3 is my least favorite out of the 6 parts I've watched/read
Cuz Jotaro is also such a stale protagonist, just Mr. Punchy is already overused, and Araki using it doesn't make it much better
Jonathan: character. He died with the villian
Joseph: His cockiness is great
Jotaro: good grief
thats it
thanks for coming to my ted talk
smoky parcel
jotaro only gets better in the other parts, ngl
foggy narwhal
Yes
Agreed
Not gonna go into detail, cuz part 3 chat, but Jotaro gets better with age
smoky parcel
mhm
jotaro is a cool character, not a great protag but i do like his design
only redeeming feature is his hair hat
foggy narwhal
yep
smoky parcel
and his banana chain
foggy narwhal
His design is better than Jonathan's, will say that.
And the chain
It has some unique elements, like being used in the Death 13 battle during the dream, but using it more than decoration would've been nice
smoky parcel
half of the stuff on jojo outfits is for decoration
near starBOT
@foggy narwhal, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
inland herald
Yeah part 5 is better than part 3
I always found part 3 to be down there with part 1 in terms of quality
foggy narwhal
Yeah, same here
My ranking of the Parts 1-6 are: 6, 4, 2, 5, 3, 1. It is just a coincidence it went in descending order of evens than odds, I swear.
inland herald
Im on part 8 and ill go
7-4-5-8-2-6-3-1
I found 6s pacing to be a little off and some of the battles to be forgettable
Also part 8 is amazing but its not done so i cant put it that high
foggy narwhal
Yeah
I can see where u are coming from, but I found a lot of fights to be great. wanna continue this in pt 6 so i can mention my fav fights
inland herald
Yeah
wintry rampart
I thought people hated part 6? Heard the consensus was it was bad. @foggy narwhal
I'm definitely a 4 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 1 guy myself. Only watched anime, gonna read manga soon to continue
wispy sleet
My ranking is 7>5>6>3>4>2>1. I'm waiting to rank Part 8 when it's done.
solid scaffold
7>3>2>5>4>6>1
That's my personal ranking
But part 1 isnt bad
Part 6 isnt bad either
I enjoyed it persoanlly
heady cape
woah ive never seen a 2 that high
lone hatch
3 worst
nocturne hamlet
4 > 2 > 5 > 3 >1
foggy narwhal
@wintry rampart you either love 6 or you hate 6. I love it.
Don't want to say more cuz spoiler territory
lunar ridge
remember star finger?
weary turret
yes
inland herald
@solid scaffold i havent seen 3 that high
I would say 1 and 3 at the bottom
Not to say they’re bad just part 5 is a better part 3 and part 7 is a better part 1
dense whale
solid scaffold
Rip
near starBOT
@solid scaffold, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
solid scaffold
I think part 3 was really important because it had the dio and jotaro fight scene also the creation of stands and idk I really like jotaro and old Joseph
lone hatch
part 3 is super important to jojo and the battle genre as a whole but that doesn’t make it good
because it’s not
it really isn’t good
in my opinion
mostly because the series is dogass til like d’arby
amber beacon
pt3 is trash
chrome beacon
Yeah
chrome beacon
No
valid meteor
How did they ruin DIO's character?
wintry rampart
I will admit that Dio was probably more exciting in Part 1- heck, Part 1 Dio is my second favorite villain out of all of the anime villains- but saying Part Three ruined Dio is really pushing it.
light dragon
I majorly prefer Part 3 Dio to Part 1 Dio
lone hatch
i really don’t see what’s to prefer in part 3 dio
it’s like a mildly flanderized version of the original character without the relationship with the protagonist that made phantom blood so interesting
ok he has a cool ability
that’s like
pretty much it
wintry rampart
Dio's relationship with Jonathon isn't completely gone but I see where you're coming from. His duality with Jonathon was what was most interesting in Part One, and a similar one not being present for very long with Jotaro is off-putting.
still barn
Good thimg he died then
wide lance
I liked him
still barn
Can't think of anyone I hated in that part
Weekly villains not counting since they had too little to actually hate
wide lance
True
lunar ridge
Honestly this part was pretty good
wide lance
But in part 3 Iggy was one of my favorites
wintry rampart
imo the characters in part three are seen as less interesting (generally) cause the other parts (GENERALLY) had more fleshed out characters.
odd sierra
kakyoin is literally just some random student
wide lance
But a best boy in my opinion
odd sierra
pol was the best boy
lunar ridge
pol
odd sierra
at least his character actually had a purpose
wintry rampart
Polnareff was the objectively best character in SDC, probably.
lone hatch
kakyoin definitely could have been a GOAT jobro but he got written out of the actually good part of stardust crusaders
like hooray he was there for all of pre-egypt
pre-egypt SDC is dogshit
at least his one W he got against death 13 was pretty good
they should have revealed his backstory during d’arby the gamer (how he was all antisocial and shit and how the crusaders are his first real friends) and given him that win as well
as it is, at least his sacrifice was great
cinder oar
STAR FINGER
untold aurora
Hello, theres a discussion id like the maybe start a chat about. How would have some of you guys liked part 3 to end? In terms of who lives, dies, and etc?
near starBOT
@untold aurora, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
amber beacon
@valid meteor cuz after 45 episodes after hyping everyone about dio he just got out powered by jotaro at episode 48 for no reason ?
solid bane
You're saying that like jotaro shows up and beats him ez pz
solid scaffold
He doesnt tho
solid scaffold
Fyo
Ye
He gets his ass kicked
Even with Star Platinum the world he barely defeats dio
near starBOT
@solid scaffold, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
solid bane
Yeah jotaro defeats him easily after dio kills kakyoin, joseph, almost polnareff, breaks some bones from jotaro, almost squashed him, also the knives in his body, falling from that height, having to stop his own heart AND getting shot at
solid bane
Didn't even feel a thing
graceful nymph
near starBOT
@graceful nymph, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !
wintry rampart
Also by the way how you can see discord emoji’s on mobile in full size
I need some of them
graceful nymph
wym?
wintry rampart
ineed this
graceful nymph
graceful nymph
Yeah
still barn
Rigjt click on mobile?
graceful nymph
wintry rampart
YT out of context
grand gorge
Spoilers
wintry rampart
DIO was a prick
he deserved to die
I mean he did have a rough childhood cause of where he lived so some part of it ain’t really his fault
bro
dio kicked dogs
JONATHAN'S DOG.
who saved JONATHAN from drowning in a river
near starBOT
@grizzled shale, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
weary turret
wintry rampart
Jotaro is an edgy badass,
full hill
@grizzled shale put memes in #manga-jojokes, not in discussion chats
raven maple
Whos fly
valid meteor
Tower of gray
nocturne hamlet
did anyone ever tell us why the Kakyoin has white hair colour scheme in the opening
weary turret
what
nocturne hamlet
most of the opening has ol silver kakyoin
weary turret
okay
nocturne hamlet
yeh, I like that style I wonder if it was originally maybe gonna be the main one
he has it a lot in the first
nocturne hamlet
Well yeh he joseph
he got the hamon training
the second opening everythings a lot more funky, a lot of the colours are off, but in the first opening, only kakyoin
lone hatch
well jotaro also has green clothes in the opening
he has black clothes in the show
(although i think his undershirt is green)
sharp aspen
Ora
polar crest
pastel cairn
loly ho
that picture makes more sense for jotaros clothes
since they aare going to the school
smoky parcel
lmao polnareff square
wintry rampart
@wintry rampart DIO did nothing wrong
grizzled linden
...yeah, that a no from me dog. Cringe.
light dragon
?
light dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKHq3NIFxt0 This is so stolen from the comments of this video but
1:26
DIO'S INSPIRATION FOR ROADA-ROLLA-DA
smoky parcel
wh
weary turret
three times
wintry rampart
Nani? I thought only time was with weird arm growth boy stand
white dew
he wraps a hamon-infused hermit purple around him during the fight with Dio
weary turret
and once to help destroy the flesh bud in kakyoin,s head
also once they take care of lovers
i think
wintry rampart
what if star platinum had acts
What if Star Platinum just snapped people's necks, and called it a day
solid bane
Jotaro isn't a maniac
hollow briar
You make a good point
wintry rampart
Jotaro has murdered
And I would disagree, Jotaro has Ora'd many people to "retirement"
wintry rampart
He's killed
wintry rampart
Dan is dead, you can't tell me he isnt
wintry rampart
how
light dragon
I mean
solid bane
N'doul killed himself
light dragon
It's not like the Crusaders would kill for no reason
wintry rampart
Damn
solid bane
Jotaro was gonna let him live but he commited suicide to not betray dio
wintry rampart
Hm
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
wintry rampart
Dark Blue Moon
wintry rampart
If we were talking honestly
light dragon
Who was Dark Blue Moon again? The captain guy?
solid bane
Ye
solid bane
But they didn't too bad
wintry rampart
Shouldn't Jotaro just be able to crush Dio's brain
solid bane
Donut would just be instant death lame
Stands can't go through objects
Except glass and their own user
wintry rampart
Is there anything that says it can't go through other people
solid bane
Common sense
solid bane
you're the only one laughing
wintry rampart
See
Common sense would have been
Dio stops time
Goes up to Jotaro
Sucks his blood
wintry rampart
Why do you already hate me
solid bane
How is he gonna suck blood when everything is frozen
Blood ain't gonna go through
Also jotaro could move for a single second and punch his head
wintry rampart
He threw knifes until they froze in mid air
solid bane
Which is why he used knives to avoid having said chance happen
wintry rampart
Before Jotaro got better at controlling time, he could have killed him
wintry rampart
go-go gadget lazer eyes
solid bane
He uses pressured liquid for them
I'd doubt it'd go further than a knife thrown by him
wintry rampart
Dio was falling at the castle remember
He fired them and it cut all the way from Dio, to the top of the castle
Those things go far
pastel cairn
and dios ice powers too
graceful nymph
He probably can't use those since he's in Jonathan's body now
snow mountain
he wouldn't use it for the pure fact he wanted to flex his Stand
vernal tulip
OwO
near starBOT
@vernal tulip, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
queen nova
have you read it?
south slate
I didnt know a test answer today so I just wrote Jean Pierre Polneraff
steady blade
What was the question?
steady blade
Hmm google yields no answers so there’s chance your correct with polneraff
south slate
pfft
carmine summit
Apush and ap physics one after another is so mentally draining I'm dying
lone hatch
u should have taken environmental science instead of physics
viscid quartz
I mean after witnessing a fat lady burst out of a good looking girl, I too would be afraid of women
snow mountain
Polnareff was justified
light dragon
Oof
charred cobalt
Ong
wintry rampart
Hello friends captain obvious here just wanted to say once again how dumb is hol horse like he has a stand with great distance plus he can redirect bullets at will so small chance of missing if used with brain, and considering that like all crusaders stands have 2m distance with the exception of unreflectable emerald splash and polpol secret ability (idr if avdol had something) you could just keep a decent distance and just spam bullet hell, like even if jotaro used power jump or smth to reduce distance, you can shoot him down before he does that (besides he should be your primary target in first place) the rest would be easy af like its not like emperor has a weak distance it is able to take them all fown before they would get close and then get headpats from dio.
Captain obvious out
wintry rampart
Bruh
valid meteor
Hol Horse
being obvious
What do you hate fun?
wintry rampart
Fun 😠 more like 😠 angry
valid meteor
This is the guy who tried to shoot an old lady with the hand SHE had control over
Literal smoothbrain
but that's why we like him
weary turret
emperor's range isn't very big actually
wintry rampart
But decent at least
weary turret
ya
wintry rampart
Good enough to do undertale geneocide route with safe distance
wintry rampart
Nah but idr powers
Even if its not like hol horse is a landwhale dodging shit or taking cover is easy
Besides with the hecking partners he had it should be a cake
Damn crusaders making hol horse look like an idiot 😠||creeperawman||
charred cobalt
You r idiot
wintry rampart
Thank you captain obvious ver 2
lone hatch
kakyoin and polnareff were like a block away at most driving away in a car and hol was all “too far for my gun stand thing”
waxen flume
Wow bet Jotaro’s mom really cool cause she don’t give a shit if Jotaro calls her a bitch
carmine summit
Jotaro mom rerorero
white dew
I made a meme of this scene for a very specific shitpost joke to a friend, but I thought I'd share the template for anyone interested
nocturne hamlet
what was the original meme
white dew
it's really specific to a conversation about me having just finished part 6 and my friend being a couple volumes into part 7
my friend has been into jojo for several years now, so up until now it's been me catching up
anyway it's an inside joke but here was what I made originally
nocturne hamlet
thanks! 😄
minor badge
My ideal dio death:
He gets his head cut off
About to escape
A taxi comes and crushes his head
The irony?
It's the same company that owned the horse and carrige years ago
still barn
I thought this was about part 5
still barn
I posted something about part 5 and deleted it quickly, that's why my current Statement seems out of place
jagged dust
Imagine if ||You Fell For It Fool|| and ||Thunder Cross Split Attack||
hollow schooner
Headcanon for why Oingo and Boingo of all people are part of Dio's elite squad:
Dio found out about Thoth and was like "Holy shit we need that on our side."
But then Oingo/Boingo was like "Let me go with my brother or he's/I am not joining."
And Dio just went with it because he did not want to lose Thoth
Also probably because
Another simple reason is that it's rather obvious that Oingo is the more evil of the two so he'd be needed to keep the more neutral Boingo on Dio's side
And Boingo being a villain is probably only because of his influence
nocturne hamlet
In the court of the boingo king
storm turtle
flesh buds weaken their stands and render them unable to use its full potential
hollow schooner
Ah yeah
white dew
are they part of the elite squad, or are they just stand users who were game to kill for Dio
white dew
because of their stands 
p4 stuff ||we don't know if they were arrow stand users or born stand users||
white dew
I suppose it depends on who is out there giving out stand names and classifying them as either tarot or gods
Jotaro's lucky that no one else had claimed Star already
hollow schooner
Also yeah
Were there simply music stand users we didn't know in part 3?
Or was there only the tarot and god stand users by part 3 era
Wait
I am stupid
white dew
well in theory p5 ||Giorno is around during part 3 and a stand user?|| but yeah we never get an answer really for how many born stand users are out there at any given time
white dew
oh yeah Cream
hollow schooner
Would have been nice to see the glory gods interacting
On the other hand
Boingo and Alessi
safe ember
So, I'm at the Gambler Stand in SDC-BiE, and I have one question...
Why doesn't Joseph use Hamon to keep the liquid from spilling out of the shot glass?
Metal conducts hamon, which means he should be able to keep it steady as he drops a coin in.
I've noticed a lot of things that could have been solved with Hamon in SDC...
white dew
non-hamon users can see hamon, so, risk of being caught cheating?
near starBOT
@white dew, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
stray pike
spring cloak
Araki shouldn't have completely gotten rid of gaming
Hamon*
Smh autocorrect really be like that
safe ember
Tell me about it.
I'm hoping things fall into place later
But as it stands, I dont get why Hamon isn't just a power used alongside Stands, or why Stands aren't an extention of Hamon
Dio is weak to Hamon.
So they choose to fight him with magic thought ghosts.
I'm hoping things clear up by the time they reach Dio.
near starBOT
@safe ember, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
stiff gale
There's really only so much you can do with hamon
Stands are much more expansive with different abilities and types and ideas.
Once you understand hamon there's not much to go from there.
lone hatch
Hamon is the same “asspull energy” as the Ki in dragon ball, and the Chakra in naruto, and the Reiki in yu yu hakusho, etc
Stands are a significantly more unique battle system that has a lot more versatility and potential for more creative fights, since it’s basically just “give everybody a completely unique ability”
even if a lot of the time he likes to reuse, reduce, and recycle old stand abilities
hollow schooner
@safe ember and IIRC Araki didn't want to fall into the power creep + energy fight trap of most Shonen manga so he came up with a unique power system
Hamon doesn't appear at all part 4 onwards
safe ember
I mean that makes sense
But at the same time it kinda feels like a part of Jojo's roots was discarded
It played such a big part in the first 2 Parts
safe ember
Ah well, not much I can do about it lol
hollow schooner
Yeah
Well
just know later part stands are really good
Like in part 3 most are just punch ghost with unspecific abilities
but part 4 onwards they get really fun
safe ember
I guess thats what happens when you adapt a series as long running as Jojo.
I'm assuming Parts 1 and 2 were 'rushed' over to get to SDC and beyond?
hollow schooner
Anime?
safe ember
Yea
hollow schooner
Maybe but 2 was given lots of love
But yeah both of them being one season
although
safe ember
Oh yeah, but nowhere near as much as 3
hollow schooner
like part 1 is less than 50 chapters while part 2 has like 90
meanwhile part 3 had 150+ iirc
And it stayed the longest running until SBR which is going to get uptaken by JJL I'm pretty sure
lone hatch
part 1 and 2 were given so much love in the anime
nobody gave a shit about part 2 before the anime and part 1 only was respected as being a classic and the original story, pretty much
stiff gale
Its kinda like how human beings dont use Muskets anymore but they were a key part in modern guns coming into existence
lone hatch
it’s just that parts 1 and 2 combined are significantly shorter than just part 3 alone
civic jay
i dont think jojo would have ever gone anywhere as a series without ditching hamon
hollow schooner
Yeah
Hamon was just too unoriginal
I mean it was original in a way
but still too similar to most Shonen power systems
civic jay
at least chakra had like
different manifestations
hamon is just used the same way by everyone
part 2 wasnt good because of the battle system but rather it was carried by the characters
Though I think that SDC maybe went too hard in the opposite direction where it relied too much on stands to be interesting and kinda forewent having a lot of interesting characters
lone hatch
i wouldn’t say part 2 was carried by the characters
i think it was carried by a character
safe ember
Next you're gonna say "Joseph was what made Part 2".
safe ember
I have to say, it is nice to have Joseph along for Part 3. A familiar character, and ||having him have a fight dedicated to his old ways, even with him attempting to use Hamon|| was oddly satisfying.
hardy plaza
frick
safe ember
Hm?
hardy plaza
i forgot this was not #jojo-overall-discussion
safe ember
But it did result in a lot of "This is the man who ||defeated the Pillar men and the literally invincible Ultimate Kars|| and he's being beaten by a ||Fake Sun/Gambler/Hot Girl/Literally Water||".
Like
whaaa
hardy plaza
are you caught up with all up to Part 6?
safe ember
So Iggy had his "redemption".
All this cus I was like "You know what, I like Roundabout so its about time I watch the reason it became a Meme"
If I had to be honest, the anime adaption of Part 1 was good. And you could stop right there and have a complete story
near starBOT
@safe ember, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
safe ember
But I wanted to keep going, cus I already know about Stands, thanks to their comparison to Personas.
hardy plaza
It's funny how the only reason i wanted to check out the Jojo anime was because of the memes
and now i'm caught up with all of Jojo
anime and manga
lone hatch
yea i started jojo about a year ago with little knowledge other than there’s something called stands and there are separate parts
it truly truly was a roundabout path ; )
but i enjoyed (most) of it
light dragon
I started JoJo 6 months ago
wintry rampart
started in Febuary
still barn
And already addicted
wintry rampart
That's just what JoJo does to you- I've been a fan for a little over a year now and I'm already a JoJo dictionary.
chrome beacon
Started two months ago roughly, my life has been consumed
winter lintel
jojo part 3 is about a high school student who gets his friend from school turned into a donut then kills the gay vampire responsible
prove me wrong
chrome beacon
well, yeah
wintry rampart
What is there to argue?
chrome beacon
Dio has an earring. So at one point Dio saw an earring and said hell yeah, and that just makes me feel a way.
light dragon
Speaking about a meme sent in Jojokes
Lisa Lisa would be 100 years old by the time Stardust Crusaders takes place
lone hatch
somehow i feel like she’d be setting records for longest lived humans
it’s like 118 or some shit in real life
and in real life there’s no hamon life energy super power that slows aging and extends your life
i have a strong feeling she could be still around during part 3
viscid badge
so she dies in part 4 then
chrome beacon
Lisa Lisa Never Dies
viscid badge
oh ok
winter lintel
lisa lisa just looks 60 when shes 250
light dragon
not exactly true...
winter lintel
shut
light dragon
thin igloo
light dragon
It's probably not emitting UV light
nocturne hamlet
considering parts 1-3 were relatively pre planned as per araki, I wonder what the original plot would have been without stands
outer yarrow
Did anyone else let out a chuckle when Dio said "Joestar's Egyptian tour group"?
hexed lion
near starBOT
@hexed lion, Your Stand Power is now level 13 !
still barn
Hayaku followed by Japanese babble
hollow schooner
So I just heard an actual combat application of Khnum
It can change Oingo's weight apparently
So he could like swing his arm at a light weight and change it to a heavier weight during the swing to make a powerful punch
I mean it isn't much
but it's something
And he can change height
So he could do some stuff with it
safe ember
Is that Hamon? Or just a regular old yellow aura?
Asking cus it's ||Jonathan's body||, so it would kinda make sense if it was.
snow mountain
it's just regular yellow aura ||cause he would explode otherwise||
safe ember
Ah good, Joseph is using Hamon against Dio. Okay so at least thats consistent.
wild wraith
safe ember
Get used to it.
I can see why Jotaro was so popular compared to the other protags
During the 90s, that was like the apex of Cool
o shit
no
NO
||JOSEPH, SHIT||
O H M Y G O D !
white dew
near starBOT
@white dew, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
safe ember
I'm at the point where Jotaro has JUST started fighting Dio.
safe ember
Also, I'm gonna make a prediction.
Since the Joestar Stands seem to take parts of Dio's stand
white dew
yeah?
safe ember
Jotaro's is the majority of The World. Thats where it mostly went, with only smaller parts, such as vines, went to Holy and Joseph
Also, Ora Ora vs Muda Muda
Star Platinum can also stop time. Calling it now.
This whole time, it's had that power, but he just didn't know. Thats what I predict.
white dew
I'm just wanna watch you go
safe ember
Oh yeah, Dio has eye lasers. Why isn't he using them?
Like, sure Stands are strong, but he also has ways to attack with his own body, and Jotaro can't protect himself with Hamon.
It just showed a flash back to when he used them on Jonathan
Jotaro won't know about the lasers either.
still barn
Why do you think the Joestar stands are so much alike? Where in the World are vines integrated?
safe ember
OH SHIT DID DIO JUST TIME STOP THE OPENING?
still barn
Yes, one of the best scenes in the anime
safe ember
Amazing.
white dew
Dio is now in your opening
safe ember
You've got Dio in my opening.
still barn
He is God, he can do that
safe ember
Also. They made it clear early on that the reason the Joestars have Stands at all is because of Dio. He has a connection to the Joestars thanks to the bloodline.
We then get several scenes with Dio and the same Vines around Holy. We also see him use Hermit Purple.
So I already suspected that The World was just Vines, Purple and Star all in 1.
And now we've seen The World and how it fights, not to mention its "Muda Muda" which is a parallel with "Ora Ora"
near starBOT
@safe ember, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
safe ember
Hmm... If I knew Holy's tarot card, I'd see if the math also backed that up
white dew
IIRC we're all our major arcana tarot between the crusaders and the stand users they encounter
I made a list once
safe ember
Look at Star, Purple and Vines and see if that add up to the same number as The World.
white dew
Vines doesn't have an arcana number tho
safe ember
Ah
white dew
it's not attached to a tarot card
safe ember
Okay how are they flying? I thought the punches was what launched them
Is that a power of The World/Star Platinum?
white dew
IIRC it's just anime-speed being what it is they're not actually flying they're using their stands to kick off from the ground in big jumps
but it looks like flying to us
it's something wild like this whole fight takes place over less than 2 minutes real time I think?
someone did the math idk
safe ember
Ah, Jo-time.
white dew
yeah Jo-time
like how Jonathan and Dio fell through the mansion like it was the Empire state Building or some shit 😂
okay this list is sloppy because I pulled it from midway through my part 3 watch but:
Fool
xMagician - Abdul
xHigh Priestess - feeeesh
xEmperor - Hol Horse
xEmpress - india
xHierophant - Kakyoin
xLovers - Steely Dan
xChariot - Polnareff
xStrength - Ape
xHermit - Jo-ji
xWheel of Fortune - car dude
xJustice - Enya
xHanged Man - J Giel
xDeath - baby stand
xTemperance - coconut guy
xDevil - doll shaman
xTower - crashed plane
xStar - Jotaro
xMoon - evil captain dude
xSun - desert
xJudgment - cameo
World
I was tracking all the arcana as they were revealed
as you can see I'm bad with names 😂
weary turret
baby stand
white dew
no he's fine
safe ember
Also I don't think they're jumping off of walls. They can move slower if they want, like walking speed...
safe ember
I'm just gonna say its a power of Star/World
And Jotaro started using it after seeing Dio do it
Hmm... I do wonder how Jotaro is gonna win without Hamon. Just stall Dio out until the sun comes up?
Okay I laughed.
Green lips
white dew
Jotaro has such pretty eyes
oh you're at the part where Dio looks like a lesbian soccer coach
safe ember
You mean he isn't?
safe ember
Man...
||Joseph's death was so... I mean the guy beat the Pillar Men, one of which was literally invincible...||
It sucks that this is how his story ends
white dew
pour one out for jo-ji
safe ember
I wonder if Dio will be in this OP too
Eh, its not Lesbo footy mum Dio
Its the same OP as last ep
white dew
which episode are you on now, second to last?
safe ember
Last
white dew
oo okay
safe ember
Question. If time stops for everyone but Dio
Why does it have a range?
Do things move fine outside of the range?
white dew
I believe the range refers to how far Dio can move during his stopped time
nocturne hamlet
the range is the distance he can close before the time resumes
safe ember
ooooh
white dew
duration of time + Dio's movement speed
nocturne hamlet
if he only stopped time in one area they would be launched into space
which would be a really powerful ability now that I think on it
white dew
it's not stated explicitly here but there's also a cooldown between time stops so he can't close the distant by doing sequential stops
which makes sense because otherwise he wouldn't care about range or duration at all
safe ember
Doesn't look like it.
pastel cairn
imi wondering why jotaros punch was able to kill dio
even though they need sunlight or hamon
safe ember
It was able to destroy Dio's brain. Which apparently now also kills vampires.
||Actually, Dio technically isn't dead. As confirmed by one of the Speedwagon dudes, there's still cellular activity within Dio, so they need to expose him to Sunlight asap||
white dew
h/o cappugino's not there yet let him finish I'm invested
safe ember
I imagine it's because without a head, Dio can't control the body? But his head will regen with time?
white dew
that makes sense yeah
safe ember
Um... how is this gonna work?
||Joseph would be brain dead, right?||
near starBOT
@safe ember, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
white dew
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And thats the end... I wonder if theres post credits
1 thing I do like about Jojo so far is that every Act/Part is closed.
You can stop watching after any Act and have a complete story that doesn't need to extend.
white dew
yeah that's a really nice aspect of the format
you have continuity with past and future parts but each one is its own complete story too
safe ember
Whats after Stardust Crusaders?
safe ember
Diamond is Unbreak- yeah
white dew
I assume part names aren't spoiler since they're ...right there lmao
are you going to start right away or take a breather?
near starBOT
@white dew, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
safe ember
Take a quick breather while I find a place to get hold of the next part
Ah, has DiU not been dubbed yet?
Nevermind, found it dubbed
39 episodes, right?
white dew
that sounds about right
not actual spoiler but being safe ||I think my copy was fewer eps than that but I assume that means there's a recap episode the subbers missed||
or rather not ||missed but intentionally didn't bother with doing||
safe ember
You know what does suck? It looks like Joseph was the last Joestar. Everyone else has Japanese names.
Isn't Part 4's Jojo Josuke?
He doesn't even have Jo in his last name anywhere. >:T
NOT MY JOJO
white dew
safe ember
2nd OP, right?
Those were instants with me.
3 took a while to sink in but was nice. 4... I just can't. Although Ora ora ora ora was nice at the end
white dew
yeah 2nd op is bloody stream
safe ember
There's an element of the 80s with the first 2 OPs, a reference to their original publish years
white dew
hahahahah what you didn't love STAAAAAAAAAAAAR PLATINUUUUUUUUUUM!
safe ember
And 90s in 3 and 4.
Yeah see, that part is cool
And the ora ora ora
But the rest doesn't sound right to me.
white dew
I really appreciated the "if JoJo was a musical" multi part harmony vibe
it's less "wow what a bopping tune" and more ... 😂 ridiculous
white dew
I like how many spoilers and such get crammed into the intro but you never notice when you're watching it at first
safe ember
Exactly.
I mean Iggy is 'shown' in OP3, despite not appearing until the second season of Part 3.
safe ember
Oh, also on the topic of music
This is still the best villain track imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
smoky parcel
mhm
safe ember
"When you're bullying the kid in the wheelchair and he stands up"
the comments are gold
white dew
this was me midway through SDC trying to hyper-analyze the intro for clues
safe ember
Speedwagon: "Aaaauh, he- HE STOOD UP! But the wheel chair, he had a wheelchair, and you can only get one of those if your legs don't work! I don't understand! Unless, unless he was lying about not walking! But then, who's wheelchair is that?!"
ゴ ゴ ゴ ゴ
safe ember
Oh I saw them. thanks to youtube c:
They still do that in the dub
Just with less Engrish accent
white dew
the engrish accent is the best part
jo-ji is a national treasure
Joseph in p2 is my least fav JoJo but Joseph in p3 is an icon
waxen flume
Why don’t Dio have all the other stand users go after Jotaro and others at the same time
near starBOT
@waxen flume, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
white dew
Because story telling requires it
hazy basin
My friend skipped some episodes of part 3 did he do the right thing
white dew
For a coward
viscid quartz
Which ones 
smoky parcel
minor badge
To be fair
near starBOT
@minor badge, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
hardy plaza
These are the stand fights i enjoyed most in SC:
-Silver Chariot
-Emperor and Hanged Man
-Justice
-Wheel of Fortune
-Death 13
-Geb
-Anubis
-Osiris
-Horus
-Atum
-Cream
-The World
lone hatch
hanged man
oingo boingo
d'arby
pet shop
d'arby 2
dio's world
throw in the n'doul fight if we're talkng the OVA version of that fight
thsoe are the only fights in part 3 i really enjoy
white dew
I was lowkey mad during d'arby 2 fight that this anime where I was watching 2 dudes playing video games was so fascinating
white dew
Death 13 is a great fight
lone hatch
i dont see myself ever rewatching the first half of part 3 really
i can definitely see myself watching the first like four episodes then skipping to hanged man then skipping to death 13 and then skipping to egypt
white dew
Wheel of Fortune is a good time
Jotaro and Kakyoin just blatantly flirting with sumo stg
smoky parcel
kakyoin is an epic gamer
lone hatch
wheel of fortune is definitely not a good time
hardy plaza
I liked it
lone hatch
i definitely hated it
white dew
I liked SDC a lot at the time but I don't think it's as rewatchable for me as other parts
outside of like specific scene s
I tore through it in under a week and it didn't feel bloated or anything, but I think on a rewatch it'd be a lot harder to sit through certain fights
I do not ever wish to see that much baby dick and shit/fart jokes again in my life
lone hatch
the fights in sc just generally fucking suck
white dew
I liked them
remote cloud
I think the hanged man fight was underrated
hardy plaza
I love the Emperor & Hanged Man fight
white dew
the Sun was the one fight where I was just like "wow what a filler ep" at the time I watched it
lone hatch
lmao @ the sun getting a whole fucking episode
remote cloud
my favourites are the world, cream, horus,osiris,geb,hanged man and death 13
lone hatch
lmao @ high priestess getting 2 episodes
lovers too
so many of these 2 episode fights did not fucking deserve 48 minutes of my goddamn time
white dew
I think if there were fewer fights/half the episodes it would have a better tone of like "haha what a stupid stand user" but instead just
lone hatch
even d'arby which i like did not need to be 48 minutes long
white dew
remote cloud
it didn't help the sun's stand user was the biggest idiot
you could have given it to any other stand user and they would have put up more of a fight
waxen flume
Wait Dio isn’t a gamer
winter lintel
he isnt?
lone hatch
darby 2 beats DIO
waxen flume
We never seen Dio watch tv or played any games
ornate merlin
waxen flume
If Dio was in the 21st century he wouldn’t want a iPhone?
steady blade
One of Darby’s puppets was a gamer
waxen flume
I wonder why Dio isn’t interested in electronics
wintry rampart
Bcuz he isnt cool
waxen flume
Are star plat and the world suppose to be the same?
winter lintel
kind of but its asspull
wintry rampart
it makes sense
grand gorge
Kazusa Okuyama drew this she's a Japanese actress whom played the best ranger in last years Super Sentai series
waxen flume
How come the chariot, hierophant, and star plat can’t talk but some of the other stands can
weary turret
when would they need to
white dew
Star Plat only needs his fists and ora
vernal tulip
kakyoin be reroing dio’s mom
next chasm
is dio a milf
nocturne hamlet
DILF
next chasm
i did not mistype
tawdry kernel
DILF
wintry rampart
Diolf
full hill
@small crypt post memes to #manga-jojokes, not here
small crypt
Ok thank you for letting me know
light dragon
I think it had something to do with the type of fly discovered in the picture of Dio, don't remember the specifics off the back of my head
wintry rampart
Why did kakyoin never used his painting skills in a fight
winter lintel
araki forgets everything
solid bane
because
that ability
was not
a new one
it was just
a way
to show off
hierophant
any other stupid questions
wintry rampart
Are you talking about the painting?
wintry rampart
bruh
winter lintel
nah he just was making stuff up
nocturne hamlet
heirophant was long range and jotaro wasn't used to stands yet
we literally see this power against dio
Heirophant can deploy 'hard to see' little ropes of itself
and when you trip them
you get shot
jotaro was just tripping the invisible heirophant bits
winter lintel
what shot was there on the leg of jotaro though
it was more of a cut
then an emerald splash
nocturne hamlet
because kakyoin was doing tiny splashes
winter lintel
aight
nocturne hamlet
i mean it cuts you
solid bane
yes
waxen flume
Dio stopped time for 5 seconds?
It seemed like he did it for a minute and 30 seconds
lone hatch
talking is a free action
waxen flume
?
lone hatch
its just what it sounds like
talking is a free action
like chess
it doesnt take up a turn if you talk to your opponent right
same principle applies to the majority of fighting anime when it comes to shit like this
swift light
Poronarefu said yare yare atleast 2 times
wintry rampart
This art style is the best
waxen flume
It seemed like Dio stopped time for a minute and 30 secs instead of 5 secs
wintry rampart
during d'arby would it be possible for jotaro to bet dio's soul?
or like, d'arby's soul
grave surge
daring egret
@wintry rampart no cause as far as he knew dio prolly either didnt have a soul or maybe he didnt think he could
lone hatch
i basically took it as, since kakyoin and holly were on jotaro's side technically, he could bet their souls even tho they were physically absent
small crypt
What's this JJBA Ost, The background music plays while Iggy starts tearing Polarneff's hair and farting?
light dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stUcMtEED8A Took me a bit to find it, but here ya go @small crypt
storm grove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GwVqUkhYqk this is an actual song in Stardust Crusaders
I like it
I'm just saying, if you heard the part with vocals you wouldn't think it's from JoJo
small crypt
Thanks guys :)
lone hatch
ova dio definitely doesnt look like that
thats definitely just video game dio
ova dio definitely is this
rain owl
I didn't think so but i knew it wasn't dp dio. Didn't consider the games
wintry rampart
Ova had better background extras
tame matrix
wintry rampart
Yeah prob joseph got him that
wintry rampart
yeah, but now it's made of wamuus skin after he did the whole inhale thing
light dragon
Both are fairly equals
But, when Jotaro starts to learn how to stop time, he does it for 5 seconds
The World could do it for 9
So The World did have that advantage
lone hatch
i’m fairly sure they would be 100% power equals if DIO was a human
wintry rampart
jotaro is just too chill
storm turtle
remember when hol horse kinda just died in the OVA
lone hatch
he didnt
he just was put out of commission in classic part 3 style in the 2000 ova because they realized in the 1993 ova that the 2000 one is a prequel to, they didnt have hol horse and boingo
hardy plaza
I wanna see the thought process behind Dio hiring the Glory Gods.
did they all accept his offer at the same time?
lone hatch
his thought process is in one of the light novels but thats um
noncanon and OOC as fuck?
hardy plaza
what did it say?
lone hatch
but yea they talk about him hiring them there, and i already forgot the details even tho i read the book like 3 days ago because i wasnt the biggest fan of it
i might go look for it in a second
ok never mind they really didnt elaborate on him going out and hiring them
he kinda just did
in order to have strong stand users to help him achieve his goals
hardy plaza
I just wanna see like a prequel to SC where the Egypt 9 Glory Gods hang out together before being hired by DIO
Think Egyptian Golden Wind
lone hatch
according to the novel it doesnt totally imply they were all buddy buddy beforehand but again
its noncanon
hardy plaza
I mean if they weren't on at least ally terms, they wouldn't be called the Glory Gods, they would just be mercenaries
near starBOT
@hardy plaza, Your Stand Power is now level 24 !
lone hatch
so yea dio personally hired the glory gods and enya got all the tarot card users
i mean u say that but somehow tower of gray is some random mercenary who just happens to be a tarot card user and has been for a long time according to avdol
and somehow jotaro and avdol and polnareff and joseph and kakyoin are also the sole tarot card users for their cards
its contrived
hardy plaza
I mean i wasn't talking about the Tarot Agents beforehand, i was mainly focusing on the Glory Gods
lone hatch
araki just wanted cool tarot card and egyptian god references in his stand names for a while
it was a phaase
yea but what im saying is that just because they all have stands named after the gods doesnt neceessary mean they were always a group together
pet shop is a fuckin bird
hardy plaza
Still it's weird to call them the "Glory Gods" if they're all their own separate people without any connection to each other
lone hatch
i mean sure
gentle canopy
I only came in this chat to flex off the crusader role and thats it
weary turret
L
lone hatch
i definitely wouldnt be proud of it
rough sable
for some reason i prefer the ova's silver chariot design over the completely silver one
near starBOT
@rough sable, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
weary turret
fuck it im flexing my denizen role
look at it and weep
if you're not me or mike then get fucked
gentle canopy
mike lame
weary turret
solid bane
someone call a babymod to flex on cx
weary turret
dont care i already got my flex on mike in
gentle canopy
I like how that is the only pin in here
pastel cairn
did jotaro ever buy that kid a new treat
wintry rampart
In iggy's ova death, the writers anime iggy still smiling as hes being pulled into ice's dimension and then right after a second the whole face changes
like legit his whole image changes
the frame changes, there was supposed to be his face screaming but as soon after that it turns into the face known as a meme
lone hatch
the vanilla ice fight is a fucking blemish on the 1993 OVA which is otherwise pretty good
i also think that having jotaro do the walking-up-stairs-but-not thing instead of polnareff was stupid but that’s the same episode as the vanilla ice fight so chalk it up to that episode sucking dick
i do however like the part where dio throws jotaro out a window, so jotaro has to put some wooden splints on himself
then those wooden splints are later what saves him from the knives dio throws at him, rather than asspull “i snuck magazines in” or whatever he did in the manga
gentle canopy
indigo orbit
small brain, magazines were an asspull
big brain, he bought a shit ton of porn mags and was hiding them all under his coat
lone hatch
genius
light dragon
Jotaro's magazines are top tier Araki bullshitery
There's much bs in JoJo that I actually think makes enough sense, or is not too dumb and is cool
nocturne hamlet
stuff like the magazines full into that area of bad jojo stuff that I like
lone hatch
that’s why i like the OVA explanation for it sooo much
light dragon
I think the most logical explanation for it is that Jotaro had them at hand to casusally read them, and then maybe he stopped time by accident to hide them in him???
nocturne hamlet
the OVA also makes dio seem very physically superhuman