#stardust-crusaders

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wintry rampart
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Selfcest?

potent burrow
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no

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please

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it's way worse

wintry rampart
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Or really?

potent burrow
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watch it youll know who each Hunter refers to

potent burrow
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What, say it out loud or type it in all caps?

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You need to be respectful

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The gayest vampire in the world

arctic flume
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use dio for part one use DIO for part 3 and beyond

potent burrow
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He had to grind for those caps

granite lagoon
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You guys remember that one time hierophant green was revealed to have a mouth

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Me neither

undone scroll
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Heirophant Green is made entirely of Spaghetti

opal ferry
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no one can just deflect the emerald splash

undone scroll
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Did the emerald splash ever hit ever

undone scroll
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You know what my favorite part of Part 3 was?

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It made Weird Al canon in the Jojo Universe

granite lagoon
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Which means

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That the parody of Another one bites the dust by him "Another one rides the bus" existed when Kira named his 3rd ability

undone scroll
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Do stand users name their stands?

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if so, how do you explain the stand users in part 3 conveniently naming all their stands after tarot cards

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When some of them have probably hardly even heard of tarot cards

granite lagoon
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Aside from part 3 where Avdol names most stands yeah

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And DIO also names some

undone scroll
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You telling me Polnareff knows what a tarot card is

granite lagoon
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Ye

undone scroll
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Can we talk about how a dude's name was Vanilla Ice

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not even a stand

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the actual person

granite lagoon
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He liked dio so much he made him feel like vanilla ice

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Wet and white

undone scroll
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lmao

weary turret
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it's because enya controlled the network of stand users in SDC

frozen cliff
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Question my dudes, I saw that SC takes place from 1987 to 1989. When exactly do those 2 years pass?

undone scroll
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ground travel time mostly I'd guess

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It takes a long time to cover that much ground

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especially with all the delays

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idk then

frozen cliff
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im up with the anime

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soeveryhting til part 4 and up till the latest episode

frozen cliff
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im guessing it has to do with later parts?

weary turret
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DIO is dragged up from the ocean floor in 87 and the entire 50 day journey takes place in 89, iirc

undone scroll
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You guys like how DIO travels halfway across a continent and travels a whole lot more to fuck and meet stand users and STILL hardly knows what a car is

weary turret
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he seemed to understand what a car was just fine

lyric kestrel
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i just watched the part when Iggy and Avdol ascend to heaven

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im legit crying

hollow socket
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just ending sdc?

lyric kestrel
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what's sdc?

dusk cairn
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StarDust Crusaders

lyric kestrel
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oh lol its stardust cursaders

dusk cairn
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Yeah lol the d isn't a separate word but still lol

lyric kestrel
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yeah im just ending it

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yeah

humble sleet
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avdol and iggy's death hit me so hard

pine mist
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the vanilla ice fight is great

humble sleet
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banira iceu... teme...

wintry rampart
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"Go to hell"

arctic flume
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French sobbing intensifies

arctic trail
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cries in French *

humble sleet
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it’s called requiem right

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the song

arctic flume
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o h

wintry rampart
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o h x2

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also I feel so bad for Mariah

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she was such an attractive woman

wintry rampart
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Reading the status about his family, with Kakyoins eventual fade in mind is a bit sad

high trout
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Why can't boys like Kakyoin go to my school 😩 👌 👌

arctic flume
high trout
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I always pictured it in my head as Josepth stopping by the parent's house in person to tell them about their son

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I doubt the Speedwagon Foundation would do it

weary turret
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maybe they never found out

onyx hollow
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Can we get an F MEGA for Cockyoin?

arctic flume
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just leaves the body at the door step

high trout
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🇫

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ding dong ur son is gone

arctic flume
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exactly

high trout
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But on the real unironically want a guy like Kakyoin tbh

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I bet he'd be great at Mario Kart

arctic flume
onyx hollow
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Kakyoin is an epic gamer 😎

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Or rather, was

high trout
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He's alive in my heart DANG IT

arctic flume
high trout
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I belive the first JoJo clip I saw was ironically Kakyoin's death I believe

arctic flume
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i saw the siiva gunner jojo edit

high trout
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think it's fine?

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Never played it but it takes place during part 3 right?

onyx hollow
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The first thing of JoJo I remember ever seeing was Stroheim's "DOITSU NO KAGKU WA SEIKAI ICHI" scene

high trout
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Stroheim is best Part 2 character

weary turret
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its good

high trout
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So it should be okay

onyx hollow
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Araki made a likeable cyborg Nazi character. Should we be concerned about Araki? 🤔

weary turret
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yeah

arctic flume
high trout
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Stroheim is interesting becuase he'd honestly be a cool dude if he wasn't a nazi

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really showed how people on both sides of the war were still people at the end of the day

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even if some may have been fighting for the wrong reasons

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glares at Germany

onyx hollow
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You mean he'd be a cooler dude if he wasn't a nazi

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Anyone who has a machine gun built into their chest for shooting Aztec gym gods is a pretty cool individual

high trout
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What's that?

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Oskar Schindler I mean

wintry rampart
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I don‘t think we should be concerned of Stroheim. Joseph beat up the racist cops who were bullying Smokey at the beginning and made it clear that he doesn‘t like their racism. Joseph also explicitly said he didn‘t like the nazis

onyx hollow
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I'm assuming that's the guy Schindler's List is about?

high trout
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ooohhh

arctic flume
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jojo the show where nazis fight rock people

high trout
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that sounds interesting is the book still published?

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I'd like to read it

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Cool I'll look into it thanks

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I love bio books

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History is interesting to me

arctic flume
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you just

wintry rampart
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FUCK I FORGOT

high trout
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oof

wintry rampart
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SORRY

high trout
arctic flume
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you done goofed

high trout
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lets talk about it

wintry rampart
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I even would have been talking about later parts

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Dann

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Me stupid

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But yeah i think Joseph and Jotaro prolly would have personally gone to his parents and told him of his demise

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Would be interesting if he fought in WW2

arctic flume
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i like the idea of dropping the body off and using the secret jostar technique

wintry rampart
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I don‘t think Joseph would have been exempt of drafting

high trout
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Altough I think he'd be a draft dodger

wintry rampart
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He could have been an NCO maybe even a Lieutenant

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You know what would be even more confusing about it

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That he married suzie q who was italian

high trout
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Yeah I think so

wintry rampart
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There is the question if he gained US citizenship in the war or if he stayed british his whole life

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But i think the british would even be more of need to draft able-bodied young man for the war than the Us who were an ocean away from every conflict

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Nah

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The USSR drafted so many into the war that like only 5% of all men who were born in 1920 i think survived the war

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The UK had more trouble drafting bc they had a policy until then of not drafting

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They always kept the promise to fight their wars only for those who want to

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As WWI started they realized they needed more man so they started to make massive jingoist propaganda, were then less strict on the voluntary who wanted to participate and then they eventually introduced the draft

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WWII also had a drafting problem at the start bc the UK started to reinstitute the Drafting System pretty late. They heavily relied on the defeated Soldiers of France and Poland who managed to escape from Nazi Germany

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Hmm maybe

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Good point

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Like he dismantled his robotic hand and was like „guys i don‘t have a hand, i can‘t fight this shit“ this really looks like something Joseph would do

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Nah if he‘d had a prostethic which works as good or even better than a normal hand, they wouldn‘t pass on the opportunity

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Joseph is clever, inhumanly strong, has combat experience... they would want him to make an officier if they could

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Well since Stroheim died on the eastern front, that is rather unlikely

onyx hollow
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Maybe Joseph fought against the Japanese, hence his dislike for Animeland? 🤔

wintry rampart
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He could have been part in the invasion of france, but the british soldiers fighting off the nazis were professional soldiers back then

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I am thinking of that

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Maybe he did got us citizenship and fought in the pacific theater and heard about what japanese did in the pow camps

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I don‘t think he was ever captured

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I think every dad would be annoyed about that

onyx hollow
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Plus the American and Canadian governments were kinda racist towards the Japanese ("kinda" is probably a gross understatement, considering they'd put innocent people into internment camps)

wintry rampart
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Well the Americans government was racist to everyone who wasn‘t white and christian

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Nah i think it could be a mixture of WWII and the fact that his daughter wandered off to japan

onyx hollow
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I think it was mostly just annoyance that his only (legitimate) child and grandchild lived across the pacific, Joseph doesn't exactly strike me as the racist type

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Joseph did say the N word a lot tho

wintry rampart
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As long as there is no official statement of what happened to joseph in wwii we can basically imagine any scenario as long it fits to history and doesn‘t jeopardize the status quo at the beginning of sc

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Ah

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People can have double-standards when it comes to racism

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I think everyone here knows a guy who says he doesn‘t like racism exept when he talks about a specific group

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Nah i don‘t think so

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If he‘d planned to expand on what happened after Battle Tendency and before SC

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Also if he did do that, then a certain thing would not have happened in the later parts

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@wintry rampart did you just read sc or also later parts? Otherwise i can‘t really talk about this topic futher

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Yeah

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Well it did got destroyed in sc if i remember correctly

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But dunno

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But i am certain that it got damaged

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And he wasn‘t too concerned about repairs

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So it can‘t be so delicate

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Na

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It really didn‘t make much in grand scheme of things

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Only that he started to wear Gloves all the time

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In FMA there were a lot of bonuses but also handicaps for Ed due to his prosthetics

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Thats so cool about FMA normally you be like „cool he has a robot arm, he can shoot lazers with it“

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In FMA Ed had to deal with how he was also more susceptible to extreme environment bc of it

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And other factors

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Yeah

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Nah

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I just wasn‘t sure where the right discussion site was for or other media

velvet spade
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Holy shit that's perfect

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Fma in a Jojo server

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Perfect combination

near sleet
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That’s pretty epic

vague spade
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Out of all the parts I have to say stardust was one if my favorites the story is just fucking cool

near sleet
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It is fucking cool

pine mist
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if overly long, lacking in particularly interesting characters and stands and full of multiple asspulls

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it is cool

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if

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it tries to be anything, it’s cool

junior garnet
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The Stands in the first half of SC are literally a checklist

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Prove me wrong

burnt zodiac
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Wym

junior garnet
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Because tarot cards are associated with spiritual and mystical powers

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As are Stands

sturdy zealot
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And colours are fun 👍

junior garnet
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But then he gave up on colors after like 8

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Magician's Red

near starBOT
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@junior garnet, Your Gangstar cred is now level 33 !

junior garnet
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Hermit Purple

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Star Platinum

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Hierophant Green

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Tower of Grey

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Silver Chariot

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Ebony Devil

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Yellow Temperance

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Dark Blue Moon

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Strength

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Emperor

sturdy zealot
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Yeah I get it

junior garnet
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Ah, 9 colors

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I was so close

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tbf, 9 of 21 is almost half

sturdy zealot
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Dark blue moon was hardly shown

junior garnet
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D'you mean, we don't get a good look at the Stand?

sturdy zealot
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Well he wasn't visually featured very much

meager spade
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tbh some names don't need colors

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Justice, Emperor

sturdy zealot
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Yeah like za warodu

junior garnet
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Wheel of Fortune

meager spade
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good names without colors

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Yellow World

sturdy zealot
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Death 13 has a spicy number instead

junior garnet
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We already had Yellow Temperance

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So yeah, he'd be Golden World

meager spade
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he came back as gold experience

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usually blue

burnt zodiac
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It's shiny white

junior garnet
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It's sort of silvery-purple I think?

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Platinum

sturdy zealot
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Platinum is a silver coloured metal

near starBOT
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@sturdy zealot, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

sturdy zealot
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And very blonde hair

junior garnet
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I still think the gold bits look nice

meager spade
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they look so ghetto tbh

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if it was gold yeah

sturdy zealot
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Which stardust op do y'all prefer

junior garnet
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The OVA designs?

meager spade
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but the ova makes it just yellow

junior garnet
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Wait what looks ghetto

meager spade
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golden chariot

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"golden"

sturdy zealot
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Polnareff X Dio

weary turret
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wasn't hierophant green blue a few times

sturdy zealot
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Probably just in one of the "dramatic colour swap" bits

junior garnet
meager spade
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embeds aren't working caro

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just copy the image

sturdy zealot
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It worked for me

junior garnet
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One shiny boi

meager spade
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tbh i think it's ugly af

sturdy zealot
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I think it makes him look bulkier and less precise but definitely cooler

junior garnet
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You might just not like the OVA artstyle

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(definitely not for everyone)

meager spade
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chariot is identical in design

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it's just the color

junior garnet
meager spade
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which is ugly

sturdy zealot
weary turret
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love that

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love that too

junior garnet
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How are those bad colors?

sturdy zealot
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I just think vanilla ice looks a bit artificial and weird

wintry rampart
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looks like a sexy motorcycle

sturdy zealot
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Probably just me

wintry rampart
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vroom vroom

meager spade
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i think it's bland

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purple cream is goooood

sturdy zealot
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@wintry rampart I don't see enough movement

wintry rampart
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I mean
the orange reminds me of flames on a motorcycle so

sturdy zealot
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Was vanilla ice the first music reference character

meager spade
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bland again

sturdy zealot
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Cardboard kakyoin should be ginger

wintry rampart
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Dio was the first

sturdy zealot
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Oh yeah I completely forgot about the pillar men as well

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Ay ay ay ay ay

junior garnet
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Dario Brando (the first character we meet) was the first music reference in Jojo

wintry rampart
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don't you mean Santana

sturdy zealot
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Who's the best zeppeli

junior garnet
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Wait nvm he's named after a movie star

meager spade
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Gyro

wintry rampart
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Caesar is best
fight me

sturdy zealot
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Nyohoho

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CAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEESSAAAAAAAARE

junior garnet
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Mario Zepelli > all

meager spade
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i won't fight you, i fough everyone with your opinion and you never understand

sturdy zealot
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What do you all think the worst localisation stand name is

junior garnet
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I don't think there are any localized Stand names in Part 3

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Cream's still Cream, yeah?

wintry rampart
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yes

sturdy zealot
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Oh kk I didn't think it counted as spoilers

junior garnet
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He's not a Stand

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If we're going by people Bruford to Blueford is fucking unforgivable

dusk cairn
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Lee Ad zeppelin

primal furnace
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Guys you know Japan was on the same level of Nazi in it horror

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It so bad it part of Korea cultural identity to hate the Japanese

wanton turret
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Um, what?

dusk cairn
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How did we get to this topic

primal furnace
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When people give Japan pass during WW2

weary turret
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hunh? they were part of the axis powers

wanton turret
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why is this still a topic here

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it relates nothing to this part

weary turret
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idk

heavy hound
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@jovial robin look i told you he dies

jovial robin
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no

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i love hamon

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its so much better than stands

tepid shard
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Hamon was pretty trash, and what happened with it in Part 2 was it's peak.

sturdy viper
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stands stand out more than hamon does tohrusmug

near starBOT
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@sturdy viper, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

arctic flume
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spin> hamon

tepid shard
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^

arctic flume
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it’s just more interesting

sturdy viper
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is that a part 7 thing

arctic flume
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it’s part 7s equivalent to hamon

wanton turret
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can yall not talk about part 7 here

arctic flume
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i’m not gonna talk anymore about it tho

wanton turret
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please

arctic flume
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i know

wanton turret
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istg

arctic flume
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i was stopping

sturdy viper
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Im an anime only too so i prefer not to get spoiled

arctic flume
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i was just answering a question

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i’m sorry

sturdy viper
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yes

arctic flume
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debatable

sturdy viper
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i guess

arctic flume
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because alot of people would like to say that homan users get hermit purple

sturdy viper
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hmmm

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i mean imagine jotaro vs dio if jotaro was using hamon and star platinum

arctic flume
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people are saying something like ariki confirmed that homan users have hermit purple but i don’t know where they got that from

sturdy viper
tepid shard
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DIO used Hermit Purple but better because his body was fused with Jonathan's.
That's pretty much all we've got.

wanton turret
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araki stated that hermit purple is a visual manifestation of hamon, but, he didn't specify if it was hamon in general or joseph's hamon specifically

sturdy viper
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cool

arctic flume
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i don’t we we will ever really know for sure

tepid shard
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That's what I meant by "Better".

humble sleet
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I always thought that "life and death matter" (the name of the track that plays when jotaro's finger twitches as well as during other tense events) was a super interesting title cuz I thought it was saying like "both life and death are important, people have died to get us to this point but at the same time our heroes need to focus on staying alive"

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sort of like a yin yang thing

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but I just realized that it's probably just supposed to mean "a matter of life and death" or in other words just plainly describing the type of situation the track is playing over

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which is way more boring lol

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I doubt anyone else cares I just really like analyzing track titles

wintry rampart
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Interesting insight if i may say so myself.

sturdy zealot
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Yes that is a... Thing

wintry rampart
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Nani

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Dio!

sturdy zealot
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Goddamit Dio you broke our cardboard cutout!

humble sleet
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thank you suketoo

primal furnace
potent dew
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i wonder what happened to the little girl?

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was she like a spy and then araki abandoned that idea?

weary turret
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she was a girl

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she got sent back to signapore

ruby lintel
ruby lintel
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Perhaps...

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I have jojokes muted since I went there a bunch of times, got spoiled and decided to abandon it. I forgot that channel existed tbh

wanton turret
dire ledge
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Eh, that wasn't really meant as a joke

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More of a display of how similar the design is

lilac forum
pine mist
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very legit 5

potent burrow
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I think the pokemon thing is a reference to Stand By Me

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a very good movie, i add

jagged maple
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I've never seen it

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But I like the Ben E King song

potent burrow
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Yeah that song is played at the end of the movie

jagged maple
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Naisu

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Is that the one where they're on a bridge and the train comes?

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I seen a meme of that with Thomas the Tank engine

potent burrow
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Yeah that one

jagged maple
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That's all I know about it

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lmao

potent burrow
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They're looking for the corpse of a boy out of curiosity

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That's basically the story

brave zinc
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Yare Yare Daze

wanton turret
tawny dagger
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What is jonathan stands

potent burrow
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Probably something like Hermit Purple with the same abilities

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Since he can track the jotaro gang

tawny dagger
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And how did the baby got death 13

potent burrow
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huh

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you raise a good point

pine mist
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from birth

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some stand users are born with their stands

potent burrow
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Is it ever explained?

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Inborn stands

pine mist
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could be hereditary

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since we don’t know the father or mother

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Or he’s just lucky and was born with it

opaque pond
near starBOT
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@opaque pond, Your Gangstar cred is now level 12 !

tawny dagger
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J gayl vs his mother

wintry rampart
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Ice Ice Baby

potent burrow
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mmm

opaque pond
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Didnt get enough butt shots of VI

short sinew
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Why does star platinum look so different

ornate merlin
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The artstyle was weird at the beginning

junior garnet
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He looks just like DIO

burnt zodiac
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he looks like Steely Dan

humble sleet
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smug star platinum

wintry rampart
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I remember when I first saw jotaro in that prison cell

sour marten
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“Versus”

wintry rampart
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Should be "rape"

tiny tangle
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heh yeah, I haven't be able to get some friends to watch jojo because they can't stand jotaro (pun no intented)

oblique plover
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Could Joseph had used Hermit Purple to increase his strength and speed?

weary turret
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i think joseph in DIO's world is about the max of his power with hermit purple

mild grotto
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He already did by wrapping it around him and using it to sort of fly around

near starBOT
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@mild grotto, Your Gangstar cred is now level 8 !

wanton turret
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considering you put it in this chat

coarse oxide
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bruh why the fuck they gotta end it like that

arctic trail
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I though I wasn't gonna get into Stardust Crusaders because of Jotaro @tiny tangle
He most definitely grows on you

tiny tangle
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haha yeah but I guess it's just not the kind of story that my friend can get into it

near starBOT
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@tiny tangle, Your Gangstar cred is now level 10 !

coarse oxide
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Jotaro is definitely woosh

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he's very offputting in beginning, he definitely grows on you though

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punch, line and ticket?

heavy parrot
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I wonder if Kakyoin actually knew about that

wintry rampart
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Jotaro in part 3 is cool, but not great, he gets better in later parts tho

wintry rampart
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Jotaro part 3 is lame

ruby condor
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yea

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in the later parts

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they sorta give him a personality

dusk cairn
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I like jotaro with certain headcanons, it is funny even if not intended

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It's more extensive what I think of with other parts content, but I like his comment about .. thinking that others should know what he feels and he doesn't have to say it. I like thinking about that

humble sleet
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jotaro is a lot more entertaining if you imagine him as a teenager trying way too hard to be cool and everyone just goes along with it

dusk cairn
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Yes I agree

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"those cool kids on TV... The other characters always know what they're thinking..."

hushed bane
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whos everyone’s favorite character in stardust crusaders?

near starBOT
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@hushed bane, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

hushed bane
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i would say mines kakyoin

wintry rampart
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Polnareff

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Non non non non non non non non!

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@hushed bane Toré bien

pine mist
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Polnareff because he’s the only one with development

dusk cairn
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Kak and Pol

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Kakyoin for personal reasons more than objective though

wintry rampart
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I don't see character development important in JoJo

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Donut boy as cool wish he could had more fights tho

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That's depressing

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But was a cool i guess

pine mist
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Character development is one of the most important things to any story

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characters with no progress or development tend to be boring

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Araki doesn’t really get the only badass character memo

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He’s much better at badass moments with mostly other stuff

wintry rampart
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@pine mist that's subjective

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@wintry rampart good question

pine mist
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I mean, a character is just going to be better when they have a goal they work towards and evolve while going to

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That’s just how good character writing works

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Personality only works when it’s playing off a journey

wintry rampart
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I understand your point but in Jotaros case I don't see that much important considering the character he was inspired off

pine mist
#

he was inspired off of a character that’s a veteran

#

his whole journey to being a better person already happened

#

we see jotaro start out on his quest yet he’s already playing that veteran role

wintry rampart
#

He's matured

pine mist
#

kinda jarring

wintry rampart
#

It's more easy to defend part 4 Jotaro honestly

pine mist
#

yeah he matured in like 2 arcs

#

some real fuckin character development

wintry rampart
#

Well he's grown up

pine mist
humble sleet
#

polnareff is my boy

#

avdol was also cool even though he didn't do too much

short sinew
near starBOT
#

@short sinew, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

gritty coyote
#

Hey i got a question that's been bugging me for a while now

tepid shard
#

?

gritty coyote
#

The D'arby brothers stands work when the person they defeat in a game admits defeat in their heart, right?

tepid shard
#

Yes.

gritty coyote
#

What happens if they encounter some stubborn motherf'er who doesn't know when to quit and will never admit defeat even in their heart

near starBOT
#

@gritty coyote, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

ornate merlin
#

Everyone admits defeat

tepid shard
#

Then they lose.

gritty coyote
#

Clearly you've never met me

ornate merlin
#

But people will always try to go further

gritty coyote
#

Is it possible to challenge them to a rematch without losing your soul?

orchid veldt
#

oh thank goodness D'Arby

#

my friend has been enjoying Jojo but they really haven't been that hooked on it

#

but it seems the D'Arby fight just hooked them to the anime

gritty coyote
#

my friend says osiris and atum wouldn't even matter, d'arby would just physically strangle you

#

if there's a canonical (or close to canon) answer though i'd like to hear it

humble sleet
#

I'm sure they'd be like "nani?! masaka!" and then just like beat you to death with osiris or something

short sinew
gritty coyote
#

it was worth it

short sinew
orchid veldt
#

you know after I showed this screenshot to a friend to show them how far back Pet Shop was foreshadowed

#

they now headcanon DIO as a dork who is obsessed with leather track jackets

ornate merlin
#

Makes sense

soft grail
#

Fun fact: in the manga, the bird on DIO's shoulder is completely different; perhaps an early concept of Pet Shop or a random bird in general.

orchid veldt
#

you know it's interesting but I asked my friend to rank the crusaders from least favorite to favorite
(this was like right after Alessi)

#

and the order they picked was unique

#

they chose in this order from greatest to least

#

"Joseph, Avdol, Polnareff, Kakyoin, Jotoro"

dusk cairn
#

Dio liking birds

arctic trail
#

imagine ranking the crusaders

nimble heath
#

polnareff > everyone else

raw condor
#

Joseph > Polnareff > Avdol > Kakyoin > Jotaro

#

That's my list

#

oh uh

#

just pretend iggy is better than Jotaro

wintry rampart
#

imagine disliking jotaro

rotund bay
#

imagine not ranking kakyoin at the top

meager spade
#

imagine liking kakyoin

rotund bay
#

oof

tepid shard
#

Imagine liking pre-Petshop Iggy.

arctic trail
#

Iggy is hard for me to consider a Crusader. Similar with Avdol.
Both were so sporadic in their appearances, that I never really warmed up to them.

near starBOT
#

@arctic trail, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

arctic trail
#

nicuu

mellow sparrow
#

stardust crusader means to belong to the main cast and avdol definetly was part of that. Iggy was a cool character but I understand if some people didn't consider him as an important addition, but personally I liked him .

near starBOT
#

@mellow sparrow, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

wintry rampart
#

imagine not ranking hol horse number 2

arctic trail
#

imagine thinking hol horse isn't a crusader

#

And yeah, I liked him but in a very late-Caesar way.
He's good for 3 episodes, then he's gone, though Caesar made much bigger an impact on me

wintry rampart
#

caesar more like rockman

mellow sparrow
#

caesar more like flat justice

arctic trail
#

caesar? more like [back on the rocks]

full hill
#

between a rock and a hard place

arctic trail
#

That'd be Max Payne

orchid veldt
#

my friend is so close to finishing Part 3

#

they only have D'Arby Younger

#

Vanilla Ice

#

and then DIO

#

I am so hyped for their reactions

#

most in particular Vanilla Ice and DIO

#

and also the whole YES YES YES NO NO NO bit in D'Arby

#

oooh, I'm just so excited

undone scroll
#

Will I punch you with my left fist or with my right

ornate merlin
#

Left

undone scroll
undone scroll
#

Imagine part 3 without Iggy

#

So much would have changed

full hill
#

really it's just there so the joestar gang can get golden saudi arabian submarines and stuff

#

(put here because can be spoiler)

undone scroll
#

yeah

#

Like, part 3 without SPWF would be fucked

#

Polnareff probably would've died to Vanilla Ice

#

Pet Shop would've still existed

#

and probably would've been a threat to like half the team

#

N'Doul might've killed some of the crusaders

full hill
#

realistically the threats would've been lesser enough

#

because if dio wins you can't make more parts

undone scroll
#

I just mean if Part 3 was as we know it without the SPWF

full hill
#

yeah

undone scroll
#

obviously Araki would still have the crusaders win

#

The threats wouldn't be as bad etc.

#

Though I suppose considering Joseph was a famous (Jazz musician?) they would've still had a lot of money to work with

full hill
#

no that was Jotaro's dad

#

joseph was a real estate man

#

and he's really rich

#

so yeah

undone scroll
#

Joseph has a lot of money in any capacity

full hill
#

the joestars have money to spare

undone scroll
#

So they probably wouldn't have been stuck with public transportation

#

But they'd probably have less time to save Holy

#

since the SPWF had the best doctors in the world

#

and wouldn't exist

#

so they wouldn't be helping her

full hill
#

yeah

#

basically best anime girl saves the entire joestar bloodline multiple times

undone scroll
#

yep

humble sleet
#

speeduwagon zaidon

orchid veldt
#

my friend just witnessed Avdol die

#

FOR REAL, Vanilla Ice

#

and when Polnareff asked where he was

#

my friend literally just said

#

"He just had a farewell to arms."

humble sleet
#

yoooo

worthy cedar
#

i didnt expect dio to ever come back while watching part 2

dusk cairn
#

:)

lament mortar
#

What if Jotaro pulled out the The World card when Avdol offered him the Tarot deck?

humble sleet
#

kill him on the spot

junior garnet
#

What if Jotaro pulled out any card that wasn't The Star?

pine mist
#

then he’d have a differently named stand

junior garnet
#

And he'd overlap with another

#

"My Stand, Platinum Moon"

#

"Wait but mine's the Moon you can't do that"

humble sleet
#

what are the odds that no one in dio’s army drew the same card like for real

junior garnet
#

I feel like a simple retcon could apply here quite nicely

#

"Every Stand belongs to a major Arcana. When a fortune teller reveals a Stand's Arcana, they receive an arcane name. They may also be named according to the user's whim. Some users do not care about the Arcana of their Stand and never seek a fortune teller"

#

And suddenly everything about Stand names makes perfect sense

#

"BTW, yours is the Star"

humble sleet
#

does this mean that every stand user past part 3 just didn’t give a shit about fortune tellers lol

gritty coyote
#

although it'd be really funny seeing dio throw a shitfit when he learns jotaro took his stand name

humble sleet
#

“behold, za warudo”
“yare yare I already named my stand that”
“GOD DAMN FUCKING JOESTARS”

gritty coyote
#

"god dammit no doubles 🗡"

humble sleet
#

there can be only one

#

dio rounds up a bunch of stand users names all their stands after one arcana then has them fight to the death

#

winner gets to be in his army

gritty coyote
#

dio would get into all the kin drama let's be real

humble sleet
#

I bet

sick bloom
#

Well, aont gonna happen because Avdols job used to literally be a tarot reader, im pretty sure he knows some card tricks to influence a deck of cards

burnt zodiac
#

you draw like 10 cards in tarot anyways

junior garnet
#

Not if you're just doing a Stand reading

#

And no one ever said that Araki knew anything about Tarot

brave zinc
#

Yare yare daze

elfin dune
#

my friend started watching jojo and hes at the part in DIOs mansion

#

Vanilla Ice

#

with the whole...

#

iggy thing

gritty coyote
#

i feel like people who cry for iggy's death are like those people who after someone's death are like "oh, we were such close friends" even though they never meaningfully interacted with that person while they were alive

humble sleet
#

hey it was a sad scene

vernal steppe
#

I admit I didn't care about Iggy but when he got that kicking I thought, damn, guess I did care about that character after all

#

Araki's good at making me care about arseholes

humble sleet
#

yeah that hits hard

#

you definitely preferred the sub or the dub?

vernal steppe
#

I could believe either for Polnareff but it would be kind of uncool to see your two friends and only shout out to one of them

hushed bane
#

i never watched the dub

#

my friend told me the dubs are not good

vernal steppe
#

I think the Part 2 dub is amazing, some of those lines work so much better than the sub

ornate merlin
#

“MAMA MIA JOSEPH” though

vernal steppe
#

Been really enjoying the Part 4 dub, some amazing casting choices

#

The best thing about the Part 3 dub is that one thing Jotaro says to DIO on the bridge

meager spade
#

imagine liking the accents on dub

#

imagine giving jotaro a racist japanese accent

vernal steppe
#

They should

hushed bane
#

lmao

vernal steppe
#

And I hope Part 5 is entirely hammy Italian accents

#

Hehe

meager spade
#

i rather not have the story feel like shit because of some trash ass caricature

vernal steppe
#

I think the dub company are learning

#

Moodermoodermooder

meager spade
#

"moora"

#

no wryyy

vernal steppe
#

If I was in charge I would have made them use the Engrish

#

Tbh if I was in charge the whole dub would probably have been full of memes and stuff and incomprehensible

meager spade
#

If i'm in charge I'd just make him say the fucking word right

#

I don't need engrish

vernal steppe
#

But I think Jotaro should have said "you feeling lucky, punk", just once

meager spade
#

it's just incredible how in the total runtime of SC

#

Seitz says muda more times than Kouyasu

#

but he doesn't say it correctly ONCE.

vernal steppe
#

Quantity over quality eh

meager spade
#

what quality

ornate merlin
#

You mean as muda as that sounds

near starBOT
#

@ornate merlin, Your Gangstar cred is now level 26 !

ornate merlin
burnt zodiac
#

damu

vernal steppe
#

I wonder if Bullet with Butterfly Wings is a JoJo reference

#

"The world is a vampire"

wintry rampart
#

where tf do i watch part 3 dubbed?

weary turret
#

why would you do that

short sinew
last coral
#

Hol' your Horses

limpid shale
#

i dislike part 3 subbed

near starBOT
#

@limpid shale, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

limpid shale
#

oh

#

😂

last coral
#

Part 3 OVA dub >>>>>

#

Polly screaming for donut is the best

limpid shale
#

yes

last coral
#

Wish I could listen to it again with no memory of it and guess which Stand they were fighting

#

Also with no visuals

#

Just audio alone

humble sleet
#

cockyoween they got his eyes

brittle pike
#

The Stardust Crusaders are the best Jojo crew

#

Out of all of them, there was something special about their comradeship with each other

#

They really did become friends in those 50 days

tepid shard
#

Wasn't Kakyoin and Avdol's friendship so touching?

#

Think about all of the conversations they've had.

brittle pike
#

Avdol was more of a buddy to Joseph and Polnareef

#

As well as Iggy

pine mist
#

half of the group don’t talk

#

to each other

lament mortar
#

r/wooosh

brittle pike
#

Iggy can’t talk he’s a dog silly

uncut vault
pine mist
#

The Lovers?

vernal steppe
#

Vanilla Ice 😭

pine mist
#

oh yeah

#

that’s misama of the void part 2

uncut vault
#

thanks

#

i dont remember that he lost his fingers

frozen fog
#

it always confused me why his fingers flew off and they did not just get eaten into the void

wanton turret
#

maybe cuz it was SC who touched the void and not him, but then again, his fingers coulda disintegrated too

swift rose
#

id assume if a stands fingers got disintegrated then the users fingers wouldnt just pop off

#

but that reasoning makes the most sense

lavish pecan
#

Hey is dio apart of the joestar family?

jagged maple
#

He was adopted into it, so I guess?

lavish pecan
#

Ok ye makes sense

ornate merlin
#

Only technically a joestar

lavish pecan
#

He does have the joestar mark so ill count him as a joestar

near starBOT
#

@lavish pecan, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

lavish pecan
#

?

glass berry
#

he took Jonathan's body so I guess he's a Joestar now 🤷

ornate merlin
#

Jonathan is in part 3 more than dio is

short sinew
#

What if Hol Horse was a crusader

glass berry
#

iirc Araki wanted Hol Horse to join the SDC but I don't remember why he dropped the idea

pine mist
#

because pol would kill him

ornate merlin
#

Too much like polnareff

weary turret
#

it was an idea he entertained but decided against it, because hol horse was to similar to polnareff

short sinew
#

Would you rather have Hol Horse as a crusader or Iggy

ornate merlin
#

Iggy

jagged maple
#

Iggy definitely

#

I'd liked to have seen more of Mr Horse though

granite blade
#

im rewatching part 3 today

short sinew
#

I’m rewatching every season in dub now

granite blade
#

DIU isnt done tho

short sinew
#

Yeah gotta watch that dub weekly

cloud yarrow
#

Ima name my first son Sutando Powa

humble sleet
#

my good friend

#

stan doe

wintry rampart
#

It will be hilarious after Stardust Crusaders. Joseph went to check on Mariah and she has second thoughts

wintry rampart
#

Suzie Q: ANOTHER ILLEGITIMATE CHILD ?

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

wintry rampart
#

Jotara: yare yare

#

It is sad that Jean Pierre Polnareff did nt get with Malèna. The lady who saved him from the Set Stand User

simple dagger
#

Man we had the same thought @wintry rampart

wintry rampart
#

Rewatching Iggy death and his fight with Pet Shop

#

Was hoping all of them to survive at first

simple dagger
#

Same

#

Except Iggy

#

He was annoying at the beginning

#

But his fight with Pet Shop made him likeable

wintry rampart
#

I mean he was dragged here

simple dagger
#

Yeah

#

But he wasn't a good boy until the end

sonic gyro
#

1 episode and i finished stardust crusaders

#

it was good

#

DIAMOND IS UNBREAKABLE TIME

abstract basalt
#

Why did they ditch roundabout for the outro in part 3

near starBOT
#

@abstract basalt, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

jagged maple
#

Imagine if Joseph taught the Crusaders the basics of hamon

#

The Kak would've probably found that useful...

short sinew
#

Iggy Prime

wintry rampart
#

wtf is wrong with his face

glass birch
#

early iggy

half oracle
#

more like depressed iggy tbh

junior garnet
#

More like wtf is wrong with late Iggy's face?

half oracle
#

i like that one

glass birch
#

its crazy david pro actually tries to match in inconsistencies in character design

junior garnet
#

Except when they don't

#

Iggy's one of the only times they did it

tame spire
#

dio is gone

#

🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀

lapis narwhal
#

Lets be real, it took so damn long to kill dio

weary turret
#

only took a century

lapis narwhal
#

Actually tho

#

Ok so Stardust crusaders is easily the best part of JoJo

#

But what's the best opening?

tiny tangle
#

the phantom blood one

lapis narwhal
#

????????????????????????????????????

#

I thought battle tendency had a pretty good opening

meager spade
#

bsuxysksgsiavjajagdjahsia

#

really

#

sono chi no sadame best

tiny tangle
#

I mean battle tendency is the funkies

short sinew
wintry rampart
#

Yare Yare Daze

gritty coyote
#

idk if this is a common question, but what're y'all's favorite minor villains from stardust crusaders?

orchid veldt
#

probably D'Arby or Vanilla Ice

#

the first D'Arby btw

#

oh wait shit

#

no

#

Hol Horse

gritty coyote
#

i'd also say hol horse or d'arby the elder

junior garnet
#

"Minor villains"

#

"D'Arby, Vanilla Ice, and Hol Horse"

gritty coyote
#

i see minor villains as "everyone except the big bad" aka DIO

junior garnet
#

Vanilla Ice: Killed 2 main characters

#

Is still thought of as a minor villain

gritty coyote
#

excuse me for structuring story differently in my head than other people do

lament mortar
#

Hol Horse.

#

@junior garnet you do know what a minor villain is, right?

spark pilot
#

When you realize Joseph could have brought a uv flashlight and Dio would be over in seconds

tiny mica
#

What always confused me was that like, anti-vampire technology canonically exists, we saw it in Part 2, could the SPD not just have some handy for when they inevitably found Dio?

tiny tangle
#

Is Joseph we are talking about

last coral
#

Joseph didn't even try to use his old Hamon ranged tricks

#

Or something like Caesar Hamon Bubbles

#

The only thing I'm pissed off about SC

#

Like he didn't even fought fairly against Godlike beings

#

Those UV lights should work on Dio

#

Since he's only at Stone Mask levels of Vampire

#

Unlike the Pillar Men

wanton turret
#

the uv lights still do work on the pillar men tho

#

it's just that kars had the stone mask+aja that's why instead of killing him, it buffed him

last coral
#

Oh that one

#

It was a last minute thing

#

I forgot

#

Things Araki forget

undone scroll
#

The UV lights didn't work very well on the pillarmen though, they could withstand it

last coral
#

Endgame UV lights were supposed to work on 🚙s though

#

If it weren't for the stone mask + gem combo

#

Old UVs made Santana turn into stone

undone scroll
#

ehh, was never showed if they would have worked completely

last coral
#

That's the sad part

undone scroll
#

Though Stroheim's line "even we could finish you off now" or something to that effect implies that if they would, they wouldn't be nearly to the same level as the sun or hamon

last coral
#

I believe in JoJo Nazi technology and medicine

#

Therefore they should work

undone scroll
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

As for @spark pilot's question, The World probably would've blocked most light coming at DIO. Outside-of-universe explanations aside, it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference

last coral
#

At least that's one more thing for Dio to avoid

#

He can't melee Joseph due to the Hermit + Hamon

undone scroll
#

Yeah I guess it would've been another thing for him to avoid but a quick Za Warudo if he even felt a tiny sunlight sting would've taken care of it

#

Also his body other than his head wasn't fully vampire so who even knows

last coral
#

Reminds me of how Jotaro could've died quickly instead of playing around

wintry rampart
#

Rewatching Diamond

#

The problem is Dio is refusing to battle them during day

celest bay
#

what?

wintry rampart
#

And they dont know Dio's stand. Joseph only knows he is weak to sunlight

celest bay
#

whats the problem here?

wintry rampart
#

Joseph has a weak stand. Many stands can overpower him so yeah

#

They are rushing to the unknown against Dio

celest bay
#

yes

#

but whats your point?

wintry rampart
#

Try fighting a opponent you have no knowledge about and the time they arrive at Dio's mansion. Sun is setting

#

Bad timing even if they like " Let leave and fight him during the day." Dio will simply attack them at night

celest bay
#

ooh

#

well, yeah

wintry rampart
#

Soo yeah they know they are fighting at a massive disadvantage

wintry rampart
#

Isn't he liked 10 years old or something?

#

He did skipped leg day

#

Also we didn't see Sonic's stand

spark pilot
#

What if Jonathan is Star Platinum?

near starBOT
#

@spark pilot, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

spark pilot
#

I heard there’s a theory on it

wintry rampart
#

That's because Jonathan said: "If i die i would return as a ghost."

#

Correct?

#

Cause Dio is actually bisexual

tiny tangle
#

But do you guys like that theory?

wintry rampart
#

Makes sense

tiny tangle
#

It's kind of poetic

celest bay
#

Yes

#

the world is dario

humble sleet
#

I will fight for you, son that poisoned and killed me

wintry rampart
#

Who's Dario?

#

@celest bay

weary turret
#

father that was poisoned and killed by his son

celest bay
#

Maybe he feels dio was justified

#

And wants forgiveness

wintry rampart
#

Totally forgot about this character

#

And Curazy Diamondo is The World's cousin

celest bay
#

I mean, dario did care about dio

#

He was just a drunk as well

wintry rampart
#

Yes

celest bay
#

Je probably realised he was a bad father

#

And decided to make it up to dio

#

Even if dio didnt realise

wintry rampart
#

Did hated when someone insulted his mother

#

But his father he doesn't care

dusk cairn
#

Do the dario

viscid basin
#

eat the dario

tiny mica
#

Super dario brothers 2

dusk cairn
#

I am god and then you know

viscid basin
#

brandy

tiny tangle
#

Wait so Dio did loved his mother?

weary turret
#

yeah

gritty coyote
#

dio loves his mom so much

#

i was gonna make a joke but i forgot it

#

just go with dio loves his mom so much

#

what if The World was dio's mom?

tiny tangle
#

So like is those cases that if that parent who died was alive, maybe they didn't turn into such a douchebag

gritty coyote
#

we'll never know, maybe dio would have turned out to be a prick all the same. but at least we'll know he respects women

tiny tangle
#

.... he does use them as food thought 8U

gritty coyote
#

what, you don't respect your food?

tiny tangle
#

You got me there

celest bay
#

He wqnted to achieve heaven because of his mother, its weird to think abiut but i think his mother is the only person dio ever loved

tiny tangle
#

wow that's....very tragic 8l

#

I love it

celest bay
#

Well i wonder how diocwould be if his mother was alive

#

Speedwagon does say dio was born evil

#

But at the same time i wonder if his mother would have changed that

tiny tangle
#

you have read part 8? I was gonna say something there

celest bay
#

I havr

#

Not all of it but most of it and idc if you poil iy

#

@tiny tangle ?

celest bay
#

what would joseph oh my god at?

celest bay
#

i just remembered how much i love the oingo boing brothers outro

primal furnace
#

Iggy face evolving from looking like a normal dog to having the stubbly chin

#

What we see both in battle tendency SC is he handles death in a really realistic fashion wear either it's too quick are you really don't get a chance to say goodbye

#

Real life rarely if ever has the moments where you can hold somebody and Say Goodbye

tranquil jay
#

Okay so uh

#

I actually haven't seen the current anime of season 2

#

I've only seen the OVA version of it

#

Home of such classic moments as

#

And like

#

There is no road roller

jagged maple
#

AN OIL TANKER FOR YOU

tranquil jay
#

YEAH

#

Like I didn't know the context behind road roller until I was playing HFTF against someone and they hit me with it

celest bay
#

The OVA has good animation but the art design is just weird

weary turret
#

art design is great

celest bay
#

Maybe im just too used to the design of the anime

#

That makes me uncomfortable tho

undone sinew
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the darby episode of the ova looks good artwise

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the guy who was in charge of that one's animation is actually the character designer for the part 5 anime

weary turret
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D'Arby's part looks good too

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i think it's closer to araki's actual style than the other parts

undone sinew
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yeah

gritty coyote
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I like the art design for the 1994 ova but looking at the 2000 ova makes me cry

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jotaro and kakyoin legit look like sonic the hedgehog

celest bay
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Lmao

tiny tangle
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wait there has been two ovas?

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I only thought there was only the 1994 one

rotund bay
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lmao

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gotta go fast

gritty coyote
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there's the 1994 one which covers the egypt arc, and the 2000 one which goes back to the beginning of stardust crusaders

near starBOT
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@gritty coyote, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

gritty coyote
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by the same studio a.p.p.p.

weary turret
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there's two more modern ones about rohan too

potent burrow
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oioioioioioioi

short sinew
humble sleet
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good

near starBOT
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@humble sleet, Your Gangstar cred is now level 14 !

short sinew
humble sleet
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best boys

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good brothers

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ore wa oingo, henshin dekiru~

short sinew
rotund bay
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damn im somewhat sad now

short sinew
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Damn

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I didn’t even notice but that’s sad

celest bay
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i know right

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im in tears

short sinew
celest bay
short sinew
rotund bay
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Well

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I wanna touch joseph

celest bay
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HOREE SHIT

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
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When I was still watching battle tendency

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I used to listen to the oingo boingo ed

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And I thought they would have been super creepy and shit

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Because of the visuals

weary turret
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you were right

wanton turret
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wait, there are two OVAs tho

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the 1994 one where they start in egypt and beat dio, and the 200(0/1?) one where it starts with jotaro in prison and ends in beating justice

weary turret
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the 2007 movie is not an OVA. it wasn't even released on video

wintry rampart
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I wished it if they truly worked much in Ova

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I truly liked their style

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Hey . Anyone can help me with a little problem I got?

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I needed to found the sound of blood draining much similar in that of Ova Shadow Dio drain blood of his female slaves?

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I needed to found a sound much like / similar to the sound of Ova shadow Dio drain Blood. Please?

gritty coyote
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Do you think people ship polnareff and vanilla ice? Is their ship name called French Vanilla?

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Dude I'm speculating over ice cream this was 100% crack

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shit this is some premium ice cream tho

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A little bit. But for any kind of french vanilla this is really good

short sinew
humble sleet
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yaaay

short sinew
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Real life Iggy

humble sleet
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good boye

celest bay
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Iggy in smash

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Iggy in smash

gritty coyote
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I cant believe dog breeders made a jojo reference

humble sleet
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^^^

celest bay
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Legit tho

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Am i the only guy who thinks its obvious jotaro is on the spectrum?

humble sleet
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I think it's a theory that makes sense

short sinew
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As in spectrum, straight bi gay

celest bay
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Autism

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He has trouble communicating his emotions

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As in a bio it says he assumes everyone can tell how he is feeling just from looking

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Despite his lack of expression

short sinew
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I mean, he does seem serious all the time

celest bay
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During the dio fight he seems not just angry and actually very sad for the death of the others, but he keeps the same look

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But you can sort of tell from his body movements in a sense he is actually really sad

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And if he was more emotional he probably wouldve been crying

short sinew
celest bay
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Yes