#stardust-crusaders

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near starBOT
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@eternal zodiac, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

eternal zodiac
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he just breaks the fuckin bars to beat jotaros shit in

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avdol i mean

wintry rampart
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Exactly

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Phasing would be kinda useless

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But it’s still possible.

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Stand Users can also communicate through their Stands to one another, and can talk through their Stands if it has that ability

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And go inside their user’s body to protect from the inside or whatever.

junior garnet
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Alessi fight basically proves it

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Since his Stand does remove most memories

amber scaffold
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@junior garnet it's not instant memory erasing

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More like fading

amber scaffold
wintry rampart
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I think Stands don’t phase through things because it requires a lot of energy like shrinking them and just isn’t very practical

amber scaffold
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hm

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Jotaro should be a surgeon

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or paramedic

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Because he can start a heart without even touching a person

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(Jesus need to touch person to heal him :)

wintry rampart
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Well, it would seem that way to normies

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

wintry rampart
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But Jotaro has always been an

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OCEAN MAN

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So it might be old news for you guys, but I fiddled the riddle on DIO’s coffin, the one he was found in at the beginning of SC.

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There was no second coffin, he was hiding in the second compartment of the one Erina was rescued in

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I say this because he was found in the same exact coffin, and even when Joseph was talking about it in the flashback to Jotaro, he notes that it had a second compartment that looked like it was hiding something

amber scaffold
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wait

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so he managed to capture Jonathan's body and enter the secret compartment

wintry rampart
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Yeah, I mean, Dio is pretty fast, he most likely hid in it while Erina went to go get Lisa Lisa

amber scaffold
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AND ERINA DIDN'T NOTICE

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?

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Also

wintry rampart
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It’s the only logical explanation really

amber scaffold
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Why didn't he kill her at that exact moment

wintry rampart
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Because he was weakened and more focused on JonJon

amber scaffold
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so

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he is weaker than girl

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ok

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I mean, she isn't hamon user or something

wintry rampart
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I don’t think he cared

amber scaffold
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And she was scared as hell

wintry rampart
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He was more focused on getting Jon’s body and staying alive

amber scaffold
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It’s the only logical explanation really
A R A K I F O R G O T

wintry rampart
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I honestly think he didn’t give a single fucc about Erina

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He stopped himself from killing her before

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When they were kids

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Also, i’m pretty sure at first when he grafted his head on JonJon, he couldn’t use it at all.

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The body that is

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So he probably couldn’t have done anything to her anyways

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So both of them were in the coffin, Erina was rescued, and the coffin sank.

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With no one being aware of Dio

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I don’t think she was no

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She was holding JonJon

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Before he got blasted back

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And then that’s when Dio was in his arms

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But, just to be sure, i’ll go back and check that now.

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Yeah

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I have all parts in a big pdf on my phone

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Yeah, but Jon and Dio were literally right next to the coffin

fervent ivy
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I'm pretty sure Araki did forget to have the body in the case so what is commonly said is that there were 2 caskets and Dio took the other one

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remember how it was layered?

wintry rampart
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I know that’s a common theory, but it just makes more sense if he took the one Erina got in while she was distracted

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It leaves less questions

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I think the light novel Over Heaven says that Dio was put in the same coffin by Erina with Jon’s body because she had hopes he would use the body to be a better person someday

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Yeah

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But this novel wasn’t written by Araki

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So it’s most likely non-canon

fervent ivy
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tbh we'd probably have to head canon it as non canon because if asked Araki would probably be too nice to say it isn't

wintry rampart
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Probably to fuck with Jonathan and secure the boat

fervent ivy
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Well Dio was just plain evil, I think so it would have been easier for him to trap jonathan?

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100%

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what exactly were Dio's eye beams again

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like WHAT were they

wintry rampart
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Vampire essence

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Compacted in his eyes

fervent ivy
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that sounds

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very weird

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does it say that in the jojoniums

wintry rampart
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It’s said in the manga

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And anime i think

fervent ivy
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because I have PB 1 and 2 right next to me but I haven't read them yet

wintry rampart
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Bodily fluid = essence

fervent ivy
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Dio cum hurts Jonathan's pure soul

wintry rampart
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Lol

fervent ivy
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also Jonathan is heavily underrated

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even if you think PB sucked he was still awesome

wintry rampart
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I never hated PB

fervent ivy
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a lot of people do though

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I don't know how they get into jojo though if they do

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well if you're gonna skip shit might as well start with part 7

wintry rampart
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I hate when people skip parts and complain when they don’t understand things

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But on the topic of the coffin, you guys are free to have your opinions, but I personally think it makes sense that he hid in the same coffin, considering Jon and Dio were much closer than Erina and Lisa Lisa, plus a lot of fire was blocking it from her view, so I could totally see Dio quickly dragging Jon’s bod in with his neck tentacles while Erina scrambles to find the coffin

fervent ivy
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I need to rewatch that scene

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or does the anime depict it incorrectly

wintry rampart
fervent ivy
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in the anime it still shows them in the boat after Erina left, right?

wintry rampart
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I think so yeah

fervent ivy
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yeah that's why probably why it confused so many people in the first place

wintry rampart
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But it’s obviously not gonna show Dio going into the coffin, probably because his revival was supposed to be a surprise

scenic terrace
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Or it just wasn't thought of at the time

wintry rampart
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I think it was actually, Araki said he originally planned a trilogy

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Or something along those lines

fervent ivy
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I'm pretty sure Araki said he made Battle Tendency filler too

wintry rampart
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Which is why Jonathan died in the first place

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I think Battle Tendency was to show the history of the Stone Masks

fervent ivy
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I say filler cause the central conflict was the Brandos and the Joestars for the trilogy

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so it was just making something for until Dio came back

wintry rampart
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I mean I guess looking at it that way, but it still equally contributes

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It shows where that power Dio got originally came from

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The movie and OVA aren’t canon though

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They take a different turn from the manga and anime, and sometimes even the anime takes a turn from things, but never as much as the movie or OVA

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Ah

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !

wintry rampart
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Sorry.

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You said movie so I thought you were talking about that Part 1 movie or the shortened Part 1 movie on Crunchyroll

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My bad.

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It’s a thing on Crunchyroll that is essentially Part 1 shortened to about an hour

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It leaves out a decent amount of things

lone hatch
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huh i never knew that existed til now

wintry rampart
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Space Ripper Stingy Eyes

solar olive
silver harbor
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Why does part 3 have 48 episodes but is shorter then DIU in manga

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Never made any sense to me

vernal steppe
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Pacing was stretched out by David for part 3

silver harbor
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If you were ask me DIU should been like 45 ep

vernal steppe
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And David combined like 3 arcs into two episodes

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Cos people didn't like the pacing of those 3 arcs

wanton turret
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and that SDC is the "face" of JoJo so like, they blew out their budget and stuffs for it

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as you can see with the 2 CG Ops, the two seasons, 3 EDs and 45 episodes

wintry rampart
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Why are people on reddit insistent on calling jotaro a buff autist?

weary turret
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he shows a lot of the classic symptoms. it's a common interpretation

wintry rampart
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The stuff he says isn’t anything like what a ledditor would say

weary turret
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:/

wanton turret
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uh, don't go pointing at other people

wintry rampart
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When you compare what autistic people say and what jotaro says

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

wintry rampart
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They aren’t similar at all

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It's not all about dialogue

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

wintry rampart
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plus, autism is like super varied

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it's confusing at times

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I’m not seeing autism

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Except on reddit

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That thread discussing it was very strange

wanton turret
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Jotaro is a product of Araki not knowing how to write a character like Jotaro. there's nothing more to it, just araki being bad at writing cool, silent characters. and it's not just reddit making such claims, other sites too

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but either way

wintry rampart
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it's a bizarre topic (hah), there isn't a way to specifically diagnose a character since there's so many different symptoms.

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Isn’t that labelling just to stick a label

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it's up to araki if jotaro does have autism anyway

weary turret
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they're usually less of claims, more of "this is how i interpret it"

wanton turret
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yeah

wintry rampart
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basically, opinions

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But why is that an interpretation

wanton turret
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i bet araki didn't even know much of autism when he was writing jotaro

wintry rampart
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To make him more relatable

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?

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Because he wasn’t supposed to be

wanton turret
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that's...literally what an interpretation can be

weary turret
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because he shows a lot of the symptoms!

wanton turret
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it's how they interpreted it

wintry rampart
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And to think that masculine characteristics like being emotionally unreactive is a symptom of autism?

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Come on

weary turret
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and, him being "not supposed to be" relatable is your interpretation

wintry rampart
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How foreign is it a concept to have masculine characteristics like jotaro

amber scaffold
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Jotaro is a bit boring

wintry rampart
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That’s what I’m seeing

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autism is super weird to see sometimes.

weary turret
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which is fine too, but ya can't go around knocking other people having fun down for it

amber scaffold
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Jonathan was a bit boring too

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But he is really good nowadays

wintry rampart
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They stick the label if autistic on him to make him more relatable

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They are men

wanton turret
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if that's how they see jotaro as, then that's okay. so long as they don't preach it

wintry rampart
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Would you know about that m

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Yeah, it's their opinion

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as long as they aren't forcing it onto people and claiming it's canon.

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It’s a shitty one

wanton turret
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an opinion nonetheless

amber scaffold
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Because this "dark antihero, lonely wolf who is going through lonely path" is a cliche now

weary turret
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maybe your interpretation's shit lmao

amber scaffold
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moments when Jotaro isn't so cliche is really good

wintry rampart
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You can bugger off with the contrarian statement

weary turret
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"Abdul, say something"

wintry rampart
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Where do you see clichés like jotaro

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Stoic bad ass man

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I think the Jotaro has autism idea came from perspectives, Jotaro's seen as able to come up with ideas quickly along with strategizing in interesting ways. Plus Autism can be a buff to enhance certain people's perspectives on things. But yeah opinions

amber scaffold
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Autism isn't cool

wintry rampart
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Why does having aptitude in multiple areas mean you have to be autistic

wanton turret
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that's not what he was trying to say

wintry rampart
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yeah, it's not

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you don't have to be autistic

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And since when is being a clever strategist an autistic characteristic

weary turret
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cause it's a common symptom, starting to think that the problem here is your lack of awareness of what autism is

wintry rampart
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it's more like a thought process deal

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And you can’t see or know what he’s thinking

weary turret
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you often can, it's a comic book, but ok

wintry rampart
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tell that to the inner monologues in the anime and manga

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It's likely he doesn't have autism, but this is where I think the idea of it came from.

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Are characters played by clint Eastwood considered autists because they don’t share what they’re feeling the moment they feel it?

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I'm not defending it nor supporting it

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I think it’s baseless to call him an autists

weary turret
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maybe! you could interpret a lot of them as autistic. i think i could see it.

wintry rampart
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In what ways is jotaro inept m

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?

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When he ignores girls?

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lol no

weary turret
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generally; speaking to people

wintry rampart
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Like?

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what you could do is do research on certain autism symtoms along with researching jotaro's character so you know what you're talking about.

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He says what he has to

weary turret
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jotaro thinks of himself as easy to read, can't come up with one-liners, mostly avoids puns and banter in general

amber scaffold
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Jotaro ingores those girls because other people will think that he is pedophile

wintry rampart
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anywho, i feel like this may turn into a controversial topic and nobody wants those

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

wanton turret
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what

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no

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lism no

wintry rampart
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bad lism

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first off

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japan's legal age is 13

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you're thinking like a westerner

weary turret
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that's not entirely true

wintry rampart
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and they're in the same school

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he's built bigger but the ages are similar

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and self diagnosing?

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fucking lol

weary turret
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pretty sure it was a joke as to how he looks like 30something

wintry rampart
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and how cna you say you know what he's thinking of himself

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show me where that is

wanton turret
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a badly placed joke, i might add, since tehre was an actual serious conversation going on

amber scaffold
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@wintry rampart I mean, other people will think

weary turret
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end of the poker game

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it was

wintry rampart
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show

weary turret
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i don't have the scans on my phone find em yourself

amber scaffold
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Jotaro looks like 40 y/o

wintry rampart
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what about kakyoin

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and polareff

amber scaffold
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if we compare him to the other person

wintry rampart
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polnareff is 22/23

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they all look similar ages

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what does that have to do with jotaro being autistic

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they were suspicious of him

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i'm not sure we're talking about that anymore?

amber scaffold
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@wintry rampart They just was never drawn with girls who look 20 years younger

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

orchid veldt
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I honestly think they didn't at all know

wintry rampart
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you need to think in the context of the story

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they're in japan

orchid veldt
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because when they see real Jotaro at the hospital

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they greet him like normal

wintry rampart
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it's only westerners that think of stuff like oho she's under 18

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that's bad

orchid veldt
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even going off of stuff that happened earlier

wintry rampart
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polnareff is dumb af

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passionately so

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and who said that?

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who do you think

weary turret
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literally what the shit are you talking about now

wintry rampart
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the fuck

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warning for saying the r word

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lmao

weary turret
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ya

wintry rampart
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just lol

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think about it for a minute

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where are they

amber scaffold
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@wintry rampart he is 20 older

near starBOT
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@amber scaffold, Your Gangstar cred is now level 9 !

amber scaffold
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isn't it bad?

wintry rampart
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how old is jotaro

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in part 3

amber scaffold
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he looks 40

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in fact he is 18

wintry rampart
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is he 40?

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no

weary turret
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he's 17 in SDC

wintry rampart
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yup

amber scaffold
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ok

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17

weary turret
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no part 4 spoilers pls

wintry rampart
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man

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San Diego Comicon is my favorite part

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saying jotaro has autism

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is baseless

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alright

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you do you

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and it's just trying to make whoever is reading it project on the characters

wanton turret
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that's fine

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so long as they don't preach it

weary turret
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it's really not. we spent like 30 minutes explaining to you why it's not "baseless". but whatever lmao

wintry rampart
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the irony is that the more you say it, the more it sounds like your forcing it.

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so yeah

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opinions are opinions

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what signs are there

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that he's autistic

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smh

weary turret
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get glasses

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anyway, i've got stuff to do, later

wintry rampart
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there's this magical thing called scrolling up where you can see everyone's opinion

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i see a lot of comparing of how it could fit

wanton turret
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jotaro getting pstd isn't that much far off, considering the stuff he went through

wintry rampart
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but not anything supporting the idea that he's actually autistic

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that's because none of us fully support the idea

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and what evidence is there that he has ptsd

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he forgot how to use the world?

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we're just putting it into the realm of possibility

wanton turret
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and doing all of that fighting and travelling with a time limit on his mom's life

wintry rampart
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let's not forget how most of his associates died on that journey.

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and how if Jotaro didn't win, his mother would have died.

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ok?

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those are circustances

weary turret
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back for a sec, we aren't saying that he is without a doubt, we're showing that he COULD be, like you asked

wintry rampart
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but where is the proof

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that he has ptsd

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like what signs are there

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none, it is simply a theory.

weary turret
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there is no proof??? do you know what an interpretation is

wintry rampart
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no i mean what instances could it be said

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that he has ptsd

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what would support that idea

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in the tsory

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I'm not asking for confirmation from the writer

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probably in a different part, so we can't mention it.

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4?

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6?

weary turret
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we can't mention it

wintry rampart
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probably part 9 and a half

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

wintry rampart
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that one we can mention

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where everyone becomes a dolphin

weary turret
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duuuuude no spoilers

wintry rampart
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what, everyone knows the plot of part 9 and a half

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it's like, everyone's favorite.

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how come joseph didn't get ptsd

wanton turret
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anyways, we're just putting out our own evidences and interpretations of it. we're not saying it is, we're saying it could

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i mean, he could have

wintry rampart
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he just got senility

wanton turret
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we'll never know

weary turret
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it's literally an emotional disorder it could affect anyone in different ways

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i need to leave again. later

wanton turret
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bye cx

wintry rampart
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lol nice spoiler you got there

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what spoiler

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joseph is an old man in part 3

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aaaah

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i see

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he fought a vampire fucking lol

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and gods

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and lost his best friend

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and a woman who mostly overpowered him until they used cars to crush every bone of her body

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he has autism then

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🤔

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shonen jump is for kids

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it's a joke

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lol a really offensive one in the context of autism your using

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how is it offensive

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is liking things not directed at your age demo not a sign of autism?

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yeah

wanton turret
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?????????

meager spade
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.....

wintry rampart
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a sign of social stunting

wanton turret
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shonen jump is aimed at teens

wintry rampart
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aka autism

wanton turret
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like, young men

meager spade
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why are you always like this.

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why.

wintry rampart
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that's sort of like calling the entire brony fandom autistic even though it is pretty toxic but that has nothing to do with it

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is it not?

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wait hold on

meager spade
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hokuto no ken

wintry rampart
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do you know what the actual deal with autism is?

meager spade
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it's implied

wanton turret
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ah, no wonder jotaro has a stand cry, it's from kenshiro

meager spade
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the deal with autism is that people keep saying it's a bad thing and adding a bad conotation to a completely normal thing

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and it just makes you look like an asshole

wintry rampart
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exactly

meager spade
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so maybe stop doing that or never say anything again

wintry rampart
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autism isn't even a disability sometimes, it can actually improve your senses in certain ways.

meager spade
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just my suggestion

wanton turret
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kenshiro, his idol

wintry rampart
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kenshrio is his husbando

wanton turret
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i haven't read hokuto no ken but does kenshiro talk a lot there?

smoky geode
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if you're blind, you enhance your hearing. being blind is a disability

wintry rampart
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being good at things doens't have to mean you're autistic though

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yeah, we're not saying that.

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if you say that autism gives you a boost

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is it him saying ora?

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or his stand

smoky geode
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yes

wintry rampart
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when he beats up people on the street

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when he was a hoodlum

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did he say ora

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imagine if onizuka had a stand

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it'd be just like star platinum

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but he'd use time stop in better ways 🤔

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that sounds normal

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not high pitched

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

wintry rampart
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his voice is so deep that hi pitched to him is normal to me

velvet mantle
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what

wintry rampart
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wut

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this video talking about how he's becoming angrier and angrier

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i don't think that's right

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there's inconsistency

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saying that he had to go to prison

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but later he says that he put himself in prison

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and how he has to be more savage with the enemies he faces later on

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but that's because they're stronger every time and he needs more force to incapacitate them

mighty ginkgo
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Remember when Kakyoin could use paintings to hurt someone

near starBOT
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@mighty ginkgo, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

mighty ginkgo
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And then never used it again

wanton turret
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probably just a dramatic way of using a lone emerald splash

wintry rampart
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that's what I was thinking

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a stolen internet joke, this must be the work of an enemy stand

near starBOT
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@raw condor, Your Gangstar cred is now level 9 !

raw condor
burnt zodiac
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inb4 bot agrees

wanton turret
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yeah jojokes

burnt zodiac
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didn't kakyoin always call him jojo

wintry rampart
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I think...?

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i think it was just pol and kak that called him jojo

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joseph always called him jotaro

amber scaffold
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because they are both JoJo

wintry rampart
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who's your favorite jojo?

amber scaffold
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Joseph

solar olive
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hey remember when nobody could just deflect emerald splash?

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but than

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everyone deflected emerald splash

fallen shore
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Sure do

solar olive
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or how avdol was the first guy to die? twice

near starBOT
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@solar olive, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

weary turret
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no that was dio

calm solstice
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@solar olive alright listen up, only 2 people reflected the emerald splash, and those were some of the strongest stands in all of jojos, star platinum and the world

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Which in case youve forgotten, are the same stand

burnt zodiac
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didn't everyone always just dodge it instead

calm solstice
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Only 1 person dodged it

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The tower

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Who is also the fastest stand in p3

solar olive
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it's still a weird move

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the world is one of the strongest stands
explodes from being punched in the leg once

halcyon shadow
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There are reasons

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Spoiler reasons

burnt zodiac
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cutting through all the strands in an instant doesn't count as dodging
yeah hierophant green is fricken weird

solar olive
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the ending of part three seemed kinda stupid, I'm not gonna lie

halcyon shadow
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Part 6 explains the world thing

solar olive
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araki is just....

wintry rampart
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The ending made sense, if the stand dies the user does too.

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And damaging stand isn't anything new.

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Stand platinum is very powerful physical stand.

burnt zodiac
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"I got you, Jotaro.. You may not realize it yet, but you just lost to DIO in this game of wits! Does this street look FAMILIAR to you, or being the tourist that you are, DO ALL STREETS LOOK THE SAME??"
OVA hidden gem

junior garnet
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"Do all streets look the same?"

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Jotaro confirmed street racist

jaunty valley
burnt zodiac
wanton turret
silent reef
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Sorry

near starBOT
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@silent reef, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

raw condor
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There was no need to call Jotaro JoJo tbh

fallen shore
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I just don’t get why they started and dropped it early on

raw condor
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Same thing with Josuke

meager spade
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is that a vento aureo spoiler

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on my sc chat

pine wolf
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what's the name of the song that plays while jotaro is getting his ass kicked by Dio (in the last few episodes)

tardy crest
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Wait, @meager spade is it?
Sorry

meager spade
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it kinda is![

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dw tho

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btw i think i know what song ur talking about

tardy crest
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Alright thanks

pine wolf
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that one didn't have exactly the part i was looking for but i think i found the full version

wintry rampart
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why didnt joseph kill dio with his amazing CLACKA VOLLEYS

wanton turret
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maybe cuz he didn't have his clackers

wintry rampart
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dude

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he had caesar's (thing that you put on your neck)

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i forgot what the thing you put in your neck is called

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its a trinket

smoky geode
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Headband?

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Scarf

wintry rampart
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on your neck not on your head thank you

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its kinf of like

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chains?

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a bracelet for your neck?

junior garnet
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Do you mean a choker?

wintry rampart
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neck braceletss

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they're called neck bracelet

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s

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aight ima go read part5 manga

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cya

junior garnet
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bye

wintry rampart
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ur profile pic isnt very intimidating caro

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but it looks nice

wanton turret
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necklace?????

wintry rampart
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fuck me yes that's the word

amber scaffold
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Joseph is a piece of lazy shit

orchid veldt
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"Joseph is a piece of lazy shit"

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singlehandly defeated every opponent in Part 2

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Yeah....sure

burnt zodiac
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Obviously, since is stand is comparatively kinda lame, that reflects on him as a person
/s

orchid veldt
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You know that's kind of weird

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Stands are supposed to be reflective of your personality

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However if you know hamon

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You get Hermit Purple as a default

wintry rampart
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hermit purple is a good stand when you think about it

orchid veldt
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Except clearly every hamon user has different mentalities

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So like

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🤔

burnt zodiac
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the hermit purple/hamon thing is fucking weird

wintry rampart
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getting naked photos of your great great great grandfathers's supposed dead brother who stole his body

frigid pike
wintry rampart
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well people who only learn hamon are good people

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or hide they're personality (Straitzo)

orchid veldt
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But like future Jojo parts have different good people

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And they have very different stands

amber scaffold
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I think that "All hamon users have Hermit Purple" is wrong

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It's my headcanon

wanton turret
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i feel like, it's more of araki meant that Hermit Purple is representative of Joseph's own Hamon and not Hamon in general

amber scaffold
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yep

burnt zodiac
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why tf does jonathan also have hermit purple i mean za passion anyways

wanton turret
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maybe because jonathan's hamon is pretty similar to joseph's and that they are tied by blood so the other HP would be kinda similar

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or like, you know, DIO's own Hermit Purple is "the same type of stand" as Joseph's Hermit Purple

wintry rampart
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its kinda like the naruto boruto shit

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boruto is naruto's son who his father trained alot so boruto has a shit ton of chakra

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that came out wrong

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naruto trained alot to get chakra so his son boruto inherited that power

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same thing to joseph

wanton turret
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yeah that, it's like Jonathan's is the original Hermit Purple, which makes sense why it seems to be more effective. and Joseph's is just an inherited one

burnt zodiac
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wow spoilers, now naruto is ruined for me
Right, "same type of Stand", I forgot about that lol
Makes sense I guess

wintry rampart
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what do you mean naruto spoilers

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i just said he trained

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like no shit

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oh wait then lotte

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what about the world and star platinum case

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they both have the same abilities

orchid veldt
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Yeah except we only saw The World time stop

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Can The World use

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World Fingers?

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Can The World eat other stands?

burnt zodiac
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Can The World shrinm

orchid veldt
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Can The World draw a picture of a small Egyptian bug?

wanton turret
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can the world get juice?

orchid veldt
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With accurate detail?

burnt zodiac
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Why do Dio don't draw tsetse fly

wintry rampart
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@orchid veldt

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umm we saw star platinum stop time

orchid veldt
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Yeah

wintry rampart
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when he stopped time right after the road roller attack

orchid veldt
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I didn't say it didn't

wintry rampart
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and come to diamond is unbreakable chat for part 4

orchid veldt
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Did I say it didn't?

wanton turret
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pretty sure The World can do all of those things actually, it's just that DIO didn't have a chance to do em

orchid veldt
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I never said Star Platinum couldn't stop time

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Okay, so like

amber scaffold
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what if Jotaro's stand is actually The World but it was something wrong with the Abdul's tarot cards

orchid veldt
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Shit they're really just the same damn stand

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That scene still is really weird

burnt zodiac
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What if Suta Purachina is actually yellow

orchid veldt
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If you consider that all of the tarot card stands already existed

wintry rampart
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@amber scaffold theyre boh the same stand

orchid veldt
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"Choose a card Jotaro."

wintry rampart
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waittttttt

amber scaffold
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yep

orchid veldt
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"No, not that one."

wintry rampart
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Listen closely guys

orchid veldt
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"Not that one either."

amber scaffold
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What if his stand is World Platinum

orchid veldt
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"No, not that one."

burnt zodiac
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There was only one card in that deck

wintry rampart
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jotaro's stand name is star platinum yes?

amber scaffold
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But Abdul's deck is wrong

wanton turret
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Star World

wintry rampart
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which star platinum?

orchid veldt
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"YES, YOU HAVE THE STAR."

wintry rampart
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perhaps the one we see fly in part 2?

amber scaffold
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wtf

wintry rampart
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i dont regret anything

amber scaffold
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Star is the card

wintry rampart
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its a play on the name dude

amber scaffold
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Platinum is a cool adjective that Abdul came up with

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but what if the deck was wrong

wintry rampart
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if jotaro's stand would be named after an 80's rock band

wanton turret
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Star World woulda been cooler 😤

wintry rampart
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who would it be named after by?

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@wanton turret nah star platinum sounds cooler tho

burnt zodiac
amber scaffold
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and Jotaro had to have the World card

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but deck is wrong

orchid veldt
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Jotaro's stand should have been "Clint Eastwood"
And that would mean that Jojo predicted Gorillaz or some shit

wanton turret
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Star World for Jotaro and DIO has The Universe, because avdol was using the Thoth variation of tarot cards

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so it'd make more sense for them to be the same type of stand

orchid veldt
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What's the best tarot card stand

burnt zodiac
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Jojo is the Gorillaz

amber scaffold
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The World is the Time in the french tarot cards

orchid veldt
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And what's the worst tarot card stand

wanton turret
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i'm down for The Sun as the worst, cuz even the user is affected by the heat of it even when used at night

amber scaffold
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Wheel of Fortune is the worst

burnt zodiac
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Wheel of Fortune is discount Strength tbh

wanton turret
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tfw Wheel of Fortune isn't even a wheel

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it has four

orchid veldt
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I still hate Tower of Gray the most

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I don't know why

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But I have a burning hatred for it

burnt zodiac
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Switch Tower of Grey and Superfly tbh

orchid veldt
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SHHHHHHHH

wanton turret
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omg

orchid veldt
near starBOT
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@winged widget, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

winged widget
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I'm super new here so sorry if this isnt the right place for this but I've been watching bits and pieces of the OVA lately and this screenshot is my favorite

wanton turret
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what

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oh

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oh wow that's actually cool, i need to keep on reminding myself to watch the ova

winged widget
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sorry my thumb slipped and posted the message before I could add the picture

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it has really nice visuals and animation but be warned that the voice acting is a little insufferable at times

wanton turret
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also, welcome to the server, just make sure you don't spoil future parts respective of which channel you're on

winged widget
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I know that's what I'm trying to be careful about

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Joseph in the ova english dub was just.... idk how to describe it but it made me wince

orchid veldt
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You know I was always confused by the OVAs

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They were just like

wintry rampart
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he was an edgelord

orchid veldt
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HERE'S THE GEB FIGHT

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HERE'S THE DARBY FIGHT

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HERE'S VANILLA ICE

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HERE'S DIO

reef dagger
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the VAs in the OVA sounded like they were trying to not wake somebody up

winged widget
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yeah it's not very well paced lol

orchid veldt
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And then like 7 years later they're like

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HERE'S PREQUELS

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HAVE JOTARO VS. AVDOL

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HAVE HIEROPHANT GREEN

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HAVE SILVER CHARIOT AND STRENGTH AT THE SAME TIME

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HAVE HOL HORSE AND HANGED MAN

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AND JUSTICE

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like it's super weird how the production of this anime was

winged widget
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despite all that though there's an atmosphere about it that I really like

reef dagger
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it would have been interesting to see how they would have done the steely dan beatdown

orchid veldt
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suffering

meager spade
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part 3 never

orchid veldt
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(At least this anime only made Avdol die once)

winged widget
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iggy's death was even more brutal in the OVA

orchid veldt
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Wait

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What

winged widget
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poor little guy got cut in half AND kicked

orchid veldt
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They did both deaths in the OVA?

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How?

wintry rampart
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Waitttt

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Standby

orchid veldt
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That's....weird

wintry rampart
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Stabby

winged widget
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also can I just say that star platinum looks amazing in the OVA

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yeah?

wintry rampart
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Do you count on the OVA Story?

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It’s kind of twisted and different from the original one

winged widget
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I'm sorry I'm not sure what you mean by that

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you guys have some unfortunate typos

wintry rampart
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The OVA and Orginal story made by David production have a different story

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Same ending

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Different journey tho

winged widget
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but no I've watched the david productions

near starBOT
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@winged widget, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

wintry rampart
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Awesome

winged widget
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thank u bot

wintry rampart
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What a DUWANG

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Don’t look that word up its spoilers

winged widget
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if its spoilers then why u posting it in stardust crusaders my dude D:<

wintry rampart
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Oh no the word isn’t a spoiler

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The refrence of the word is tho

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Part4 Spoiler

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Ofc

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Well my mom is watching Ching part1

winged widget
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I'm caught up on the anime my dude

wintry rampart
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She got to episode 7

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Tommorow we finishing phantom blood

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Also I wanna see a live action part1 Movie

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I just wanna see hamon and Danny

fallen shore
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Live action Part 1 movie?

orchid veldt
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There ain't no live action Part 1 movie

fallen shore
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Only live action JoJo movie I know of is for Part 4

orchid veldt
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There's an animated Part 1 movie

burnt zodiac
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He's saying there should be

orchid veldt
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Oh

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Oops

fallen shore
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I also misread

orchid veldt
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Misread

reef dagger
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guys what is your favorite attack in stardust crusaders?

winged widget
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my favorite attack in stardust crusaders is probably dio using the world

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the way he shouts it gives me chills

reef dagger
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hanged man would be really dangerous now

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since he could appear even in your phone

amber scaffold
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check it

winged widget
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hearing him say za warudo outside of jojo is so jarring

meager spade
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da waludo

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that's how he sounds

wary pier
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ZA WARUDO

lone hatch
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i read the Part 3 manga and fucking hell

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its like DP used the manga as the fucking storyboard

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so yes its the same

wintry rampart
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Anyone ever thought that The world = Star platinum

vernal steppe
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Yeah Araki sadly

half crow
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OVA DIO IS NOW THE SERVER PIC HAHAHAHAHAHA

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PERFECTION

raw condor
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Oh boy

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Nice server pic

orchid veldt
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my friend started really liking Jojo at Wheel of Fortune

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🤔

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don't most people think Wheel of Fortune sucks?

meager spade
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the ora rush on that episode is really good tho

burnt zodiac
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It's a good episode imo but the stand sucks

meager spade
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kinda funny when stand name: gun is cool but stand name: car isn't

burnt zodiac
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tru

weary turret
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Wheel of Fortune was a fun episode but kinda unmemorable, aside from being the last Anne episode i guess

fallen shore
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The fourth wall break was funny too

orchid veldt
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Rate Jotaro out of 10

raw condor
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Bad/10

wintry rampart
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i like how "Jotaro" in the dub is "Jodro"

polar hazel
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Jotabro

amber scaffold
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Wheel of Fortune sucks

nimble heath
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8/10

wintry rampart
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ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA

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sorry i just had to do it to em

amber scaffold
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MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

wintry rampart
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STAR FINGER IS 2 FINGERS JUST LIKE ZEPPELIS FIRST ATTACK

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STAH FINGAH

mellow geode
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Star Platinum is not a stand

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he‘s just the ghost of a pillar man who hangs around jotaro

wintry rampart
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bloodier stream

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legend of the fith pillar man

wanton turret
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doesn't Star Finger use one finger?

mellow geode
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Ok so now that Hamon is extinct

wintry rampart
mellow geode
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Santana could escape the SWF

wintry rampart
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swf?

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what does that mean

mellow geode
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And decimate the world

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Speedwagon foundation

wanton turret
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santana's kept under UV lights

wintry rampart
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he's ded

amber scaffold
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Isn't

wintry rampart
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this is a part 2 discussion

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lets go there instead

amber scaffold
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Lol

mellow geode
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Maybe a tornado or earthquake breaks the facility down

amber scaffold
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We need a Santana spin off

wintry rampart
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NO WE DONT

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DID YOU SEE HOW THE ROHAN OVA TURNED OUT?

mellow geode
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And the special mask happens to fall on his face

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And boom, ultimate santana

wintry rampart
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AND BECAUSE OF IT WE CANT GET PART5 ANY FASTER

amber scaffold
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And he should be adopted by Jotaro/[Spoiler] and be a new JoJo

wanton turret
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Stardust Crusaders

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:)

wintry rampart
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yeah

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i told them]

mellow geode
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Ok look

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The world of stands has nothing against pillarmen

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Maybe the sun

amber scaffold
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But what if we pierce him with [PART 4 SPOILER]?

mellow geode
#

We get an even more OP character i Guess

near starBOT
#

@mellow geode, Your Gangstar cred is now level 13 !

amber scaffold
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Santana isn't so OP

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He can be killed by The Sun or the fucking mirror

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He is not Kars

wanton turret
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don't think soi

amber scaffold
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It is THE SUN guy

wanton turret
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just heat

wintry rampart
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uv lights are based off the sun

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also how do they not die at night?

amber scaffold
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Also our villain can buy a UV torch

wintry rampart
#

doesn't the moonlight actually is the sunlight

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but mostly blocked by the moon

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isnt the moonlight actually sunlight*

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yeah

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so if sunolight kills vampires

wanton turret
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no

wintry rampart
#

why dont they die at night?

wanton turret
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UV rays from sunlight kill vampires

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moonlight doesn't have UV rays

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else people would be getting tans at night

amber scaffold
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I think that moonlight UV isn't enough to kill them

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Also

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Araki know nothing about the physics

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Just watch/read ending of the BT

wintry rampart
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greatturnabout you litterally just copied my picture i posted earlier

wanton turret
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i mean, yeah, looking at PB and BT, he doesn't know physics nor much of anatomy

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but hey, whatever's cool is cool

amber scaffold
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Santana should be the next JoJo

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Imagine if Pillar men awskened earlier

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In the 1888

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I want to see Pillar men vs Dio

wanton turret
#

more knives i guess

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that is if he still has space ripper stingy eyes

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but really, dio doesn't have much to offer against the pillarmen except for Timestop, which really isn't that much considering the enemies he'll be facing off has stronger regeneration than himself

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and that they can absorb vampires(or was that just a santana thing? i forgot)

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true that

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i mean he could, but i feel like Kars would understand timestop in the first instance of it because, well, he has big brain energy. so he'd already adapt by then

orchid veldt
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Something I wanna say there

amber scaffold
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I've once found a stupid JoJo AMV with slavic rap

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And the song was about Chechen msfia or smth

junior garnet
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One of my favorite things about DIO stopping time is that there's no sense of actual scale in stopped time

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"7 seconds have passed" 30 seconds later "8 seconds have passed"

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But also the fact that during the part where he runs off to get a road roller

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Every time he says "x seconds have passed"

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It takes him like 3 or 4 seconds to say it

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So if we're being realistic

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It'd be over after he said "ni byou kei ko"

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Probably

unreal sage
#

the manga is much more accurate about this

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anime adaption cant fit a 30 second speech in 8 seconds

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the thing is

mellow geode
#

But how exactly does time "pass“ in stopped time

unreal sage
#

in the manga you read at your own pace

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ye

junior garnet
#

^

unreal sage
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ye

junior garnet
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That's how I always saw it

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Oh my god

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What if DIO's time stop is actually unlimited and it just ends when he feels like it's been 5 seconds

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It did, within the show's rules

unreal sage
#

yeah

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at first it was 1 second

junior garnet
#

But in actuality, it was all over the place

unreal sage
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then he grew it until 9 seconds

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dio himself says that if he trained enough he could time stop for a minute

junior garnet
#

We generally say 5 seconds, because from moving Polnareff down the stairs all the way to grabbing a car, it's about 5 seconds each time

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It grows to 9 after succing Joseph

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But he only uses it a few times after that

calm solstice
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Time stop is infinite, but it damages the body past a certain limit

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Thats why dio can exceed 5 seconds, he isnt human

junior garnet
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He's DIO

calm solstice
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He can take more damage than a human due to being a vampire

junior garnet
#

He'd find something to do for hours to mess with people

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Can DIO move through sunlight during stopped time?

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Who tf are you talking about

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Wait his middle name is actually Jojo wtf

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I wonder what his Stand is

wintry rampart
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@junior garnet yes. I assume what makes vamps melt is the uv rays actually hitting them. If they aren't moving they aren't hitting them. Now idk if static uv rays still hurt them even though it wouldn't make any sense for them to

smoky geode
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i mean, how could he see in stopped time tho? because if he could, that would mean light still moves in stopped time and that means UV rays still move.

wintry rampart
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Ah shit

wintry rampart
#

Hen again there is DIO in part3 So I guess they know him

lusty karma
#

(part 6 spoilers)

amber scaffold
#

hm

#

I've just noticed that BT anime epilogue is very different comparing to actual SC anime

orchid veldt
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well tbf they were just doing what Joseph looked like in that scene in the manga

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cause that's what he looked like

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as for Jotaro that was just them using the Season 1 budget

amber scaffold
calm solstice
#

I like part 3 teaser style alot

amber scaffold
#

wait

calm solstice
#

Im sad it changed

amber scaffold
#

i've just got something really bizzare

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In the anime Jotaro was shown in asolutely all parts

calm solstice
#

What

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No he wasnt

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He doesnt appewr in part 1

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And hes only teased in p2

orchid veldt
#

cough

amber scaffold
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@calm solstice opening

orchid veldt
#

Sono Chi No Sadame

calm solstice
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@amber scaffold also no talking about parts past part 3 here

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The op doesnt count

orchid veldt
#

and why does it not count

amber scaffold
#

but op is the part of 8/9 episodes

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so

calm solstice
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Because its not the actual anime, just its opening

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If its part od the anime we could talk sbout parts 1-6 here

amber scaffold
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objection

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we could talk about parts 1-6

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about those 4 frames

#

yes?

calm solstice
#

No

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Because its spoilers

amber scaffold
#

that explain nothing

calm solstice
#

Still spoilers

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Im not going to post pics of jolyne here

amber scaffold
#

who is jolyne

calm solstice
amber scaffold
#

I only saw a strange girl, a strange gay boys, some police officer with his strange partner

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some boy with big balls

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and Jonathan

calm solstice
#

Who says they're gay

amber scaffold
#

idk who are those people

calm solstice
#

Just, the op isnt part of the actual anime

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It airs as its opener but it is not the anime

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Its like sauing roundabout is jojo necause it was p1 and 2s ed

orchid veldt
#

it's become pretty much associated with Jojo however

amber scaffold
#

Well

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If you go to the official Roundabout video

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the comment section is flooded by the JoJo

near starBOT
#

@amber scaffold, Your Gangstar cred is now level 10 !

amber scaffold
#

Also about Walk like an Egyptian...

#

This part

All the old paintings on the tombs
They do the sand dance don't you know

reminds me of the first season ending

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when it was literally old paintings literally on the tombs

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and they were doing things

orchid veldt
#

that Part 1 ED is supposed to actually be in reference to the start of the Jojo manga

amber scaffold
#

yes

orchid veldt
#

because the manga did not start out with the carriage incident

amber scaffold
#

I know

orchid veldt
#

it started out with an ancient Aztec ritual with the mask

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WELL I'M SAYING IT FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHEN THEY STOP BY LATER GEEZ

amber scaffold
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And 3rd part ending song is reminds me it

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lol

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this is the reason why Joseph doesn't use his lovely balls at the SC

raw condor
#

Walk like an Egyptian is fuckin great

amber scaffold
#

yes

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And the whole ending is great

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The next ending is really bad

raw condor
#

Diamond has 3 ops (i think)

burnt zodiac
#

yes

scenic terrace
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There are no bad ops

raw condor
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Chase is GREAT.

hybrid sky
hexed peak
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Can't get to it

vernal steppe
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Sorry but I just called the Bad ED department and they said JoJo has none :/

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Chosen by Araki no less

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So BY DEFINITION the song choices can't be bad

fallen shore
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True

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But Last Train Home is the best

solar olive
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araki forgets

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a lot

hexed peak
solar olive
raw condor
solar olive
scenic terrace
junior garnet
solar olive
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hey remember jota? also known as the kid of jotaro and kakyoin

meager spade
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jouta did nothing wrong

junior garnet
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Jouta also hatched from an egg

scenic terrace
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The only good thing to come from Kakyoin's death...no more Jouta theories...

meager spade
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jouta did nothing wrong

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you guys are just mean

scenic terrace
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Jouta is a sin

meager spade
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NO!

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he's just a kid

solar olive
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JOUTA IS A REGRET

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I didn't get it

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scenic terrace
lusty karma
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whats jotua?

scenic terrace
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A disgrace to Araki himself

meager spade
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jouta is just an innocent child, endlessly bullied by people who can't take a headcanon

junior garnet
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Headcanon?

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In the Jouta universe, Kakyoin survives

lusty karma
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seriously im confused and i cant google it with my shitty data

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i scrolled up

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why do people ship jotaro and kakyoin

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like jotaro married a woman (eventually) and dont give me that "he could be bi" excuse

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the only gay jojo ships im ok woth are jolyne-x-ermes and pucci-x-dio (that last one's basically canon)

junior garnet
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What about Josuke-x-Okuyasu

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Another practically canon one

lusty karma
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eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhh no

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not particularly

junior garnet
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"Josuke loves fashion more than money and Okuyasu more than fashion"

lusty karma
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i'd put a you got me there but it would take forever to get the pic

scenic terrace
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Fake quote

lusty karma
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i repeat what i just said

solar olive
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@lusty karma yukakko x midget

lusty karma
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yes

solar olive
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ITS LITERALLY CANON

lusty karma
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yea

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and?

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now kira x mona lisa, thats the otp

junior garnet
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What about DIO x random hoe he banged in Egypt

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*4 random hoes

lusty karma
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eh, i dont like double dipping on ships

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also, one of them was japanese i think

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i mean, i can double dip on homestuck ships, but its complicated unless youve read it

junior garnet
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I mean

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They basically ask you to put everyone in several ships

lusty karma
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yeah, but even then i only go for, like, one ship/quadrant there

meager spade
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anything is canon and everyone in jojo is gay.

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also you're ralking part 4 characters on stardustcrusaders chat.