#stardust-crusaders

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orchid veldt
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say

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"My sister was shamed and killed"

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instead of saying

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she was raped

fallen shore
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Laaaaaaaame

orchid veldt
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I didn't even know she was raped until like a week ago

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and I saw Part 3 like

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in April

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or May

amber scaffold
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oh

lyric nexus
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she was raped?

amber scaffold
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yep

fallen shore
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Yes

orchid veldt
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yes she was raped

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by J Geil

lyric nexus
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crunchyroll why didn’t you tell me that

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j who

orchid veldt
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Hanged Man

amber scaffold
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I was watching non-english subs

fallen shore
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Centerfold

lyric nexus
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WHA

orchid veldt
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I mean

amber scaffold
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and it was clear that she was raped

orchid veldt
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it stands to reason that

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the one who killed her

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was the one who raped her

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why would it be 2 separate people

lyric nexus
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why didn’t crunchyroll just say she was raped

amber scaffold
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because this is america

lyric nexus
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jdsfkegkkwd

orchid veldt
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I guess they thought

amber scaffold
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Don't catch you slippin' up

orchid veldt
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"Shamed" was enough?

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but apparently not

fallen shore
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Because Crunchyroll subs are lame and that’s why pirating like a gangstar is the right thing to do

orchid veldt
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because I didn't know she was raped for half a year

lyric nexus
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i didn’t know she was raped until just now

amber scaffold
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lol

orchid veldt
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I only watch Crunchyroll because I wish to support David Productions

amber scaffold
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wait

orchid veldt
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without buying premium of course

amber scaffold
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is Crunchyroll legal?

fallen shore
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Yes

lyric nexus
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it used to be illegal

orchid veldt
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I watch the illegal leaks on a website

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and then when the episode is non premium

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I watch it again

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so it counts as support

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I have a friend watching Part 3

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and I had some idiot mention that

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in Jojo

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something about

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ZA WARUDO

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and time stopping powers

lyric nexus
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i told my friend about jojo and told her jojo is just a lot of buff dudes posing

orchid veldt
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and it's something I don't want my friend to know about

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so what I'm doing is

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I'm just not gonna mention the words

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ZA WARUDO at all

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in reference to DIO's stand

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and hope they aren't paying attention enough to when they say it

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until DIO is revealed to be stopping time

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cause I want it to be surprise

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I MUST KEEP UP THE RUSE

lyric nexus
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one time someone threatened to spoil the ending of the jojo part I was watching because I wasn’t reading the manga

amber scaffold
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i have showed dio version of the end of za warudo to my friend when he was watching the 1st part of season

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he just didn't get it

orchid veldt
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yeah probably

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because he was crazier in Part 3

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than Part 1

fallen shore
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To be fair the OPs and EDs do heavily hint that The World has something to do with time

orchid veldt
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that much is for sure

amber scaffold
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@fallen shore ops and eds are very spoiling

orchid veldt
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also what I love the most is that

fallen shore
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They sure are

orchid veldt
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somebody outright

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tried to trick me into thinking something else

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I was like

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"I'm spoiled on DIO's stand"

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"What do you think it is?"

vernal steppe
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@lyric nexus ugh worst type of person

orchid veldt
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"He controls time or something"

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"That's not what his stand does"

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"His stand doesn't not control time"

lyric nexus
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yeah

orchid veldt
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and so I was completely oblivious to what was going on in the finale arc

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because I thought it had nothing to do with time

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and when the time stop was revealed

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the person was like

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"So technically, it wasn't controlling time"

vernal steppe
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I assumed teleporting

orchid veldt
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I didn't think teleporting either

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I thought

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DIO was just

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breaking the fabric of reality

vernal steppe
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@wintry rampart sounds good to me

orchid veldt
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btw you know what I hate a lot

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the "So This is Basically Jojo's Bizarre Adventure" video

vernal steppe
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I'm worried my buddy will FINALLY get to the last arc of SDC and not be impressed with The World

orchid veldt
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from JelloApocalypse

lyric nexus
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oh I’ve watched that

fallen shore
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Same

orchid veldt
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why do I hate it

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well it's easy

vernal steppe
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Because he watches Steins;Gate and stuff so he probably has time on the brain

fallen shore
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Because it’s very inaccurate

orchid veldt
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I had seen it prior to Jojo

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and the fact is

lyric nexus
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ohh

orchid veldt
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he had a spoiler warning

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but it was in the corner

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really tiny

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and only on screen for 3 seconds

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THAT IS NOT HOW YOU DO SPOILER WARNINGS

vernal steppe
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Classy. Discreet

orchid veldt
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YOU DO NOT MAKE THE SPOILER WARNING THE HARDEST THING TO SEE ON YOUR SCREEN

vernal steppe
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That video is maybe 30% laugh 70% cringe

fallen shore
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That’s why I’m glad I knew little to nothing about JoJo when I started

orchid veldt
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Kakyoin being a cardboard cutout is true though

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I'm sorry my little rero boi

lyric nexus
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rero man

orchid veldt
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you're special and precious but

fallen shore
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I mean he is

orchid veldt
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you don't have a personality

fallen shore
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But that doesn’t mean I didn’t feel for him

orchid veldt
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it also sucks because I looked up Last Train Home

fallen shore
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He died just for a chance to fuck Holly

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I can respect that

orchid veldt
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while watching Part 3

vernal steppe
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oh man

lyric nexus
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milf hunter man

orchid veldt
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and I accidentally scrolled down

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and the top 3 comments

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were by the same dude

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and they were in order

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RIP Kakyoin

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RIP Avdol

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RIP Iggy

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I was pretty much unspoiled on most everything after Part 3 however

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besides like one Part 4 death

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and one part 7 death

fallen shore
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I don’t know how I managed to avoid so many spoilers

orchid veldt
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I was pretty much in the clear

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oh hey I've been watching them

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their Jojo analysis is great

fallen shore
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The only thing I ever got spoiled for me was a certain death in Part 6

orchid veldt
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oh yeah

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they did that for Caesar too

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yeah

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luckily it seems they didn't do that for Avdol's first death

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they just called the episode

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SHHHH

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SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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FELINE

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SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh

lyric nexus
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a

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im not gonna say it

orchid veldt
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NO PART 4 SPOILERS IN THE PART 3 CHAT

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NEED TO DELETE THAT SHIT

fallen shore
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To be fair it’s pretty obvious that Ceaser dies in the OP

orchid veldt
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I didn't catch on

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but Feline

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how can you not say it

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when you literally just fucking said it

vernal steppe
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There's a special circle in hell for people who spoil in their video titles and descriptions

orchid veldt
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Feline why do you still have that Part 4 spoiler just sitting there

amber scaffold
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"WTF DIO'S STAND CONTROL TIME WOW"

orchid veldt
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@lyric nexus
why is it still there

lyric nexus
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wha

orchid veldt
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you're openly spoiling a character death

amber scaffold
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at the when episode is avaliable at the Japan

lyric nexus
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oh sorry

orchid veldt
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In a future part

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thank you

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brb

vernal steppe
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It's pretty damn cliche

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But given the thing was made in the 80s/90s it gets a pass

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At least they don't always, in JoJo

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I think characters having enough time to get a whole speech out before dying

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Is a separate cliche

lyric nexus
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i mean

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character dying before they can finish is also a trope

vernal steppe
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We need more shows where characters only get out exactly 50% of what they wanted to say

amber scaffold
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What do you think of that trope where the dying character holds the surviving character

lyric nexus
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good

amber scaffold
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and surviving character is just a head

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imagine if Dio couldn't take Jonathan's body

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so he will just die in hands of death man

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it's kinda scary

lyric nexus
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rip

wintry rampart
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what if dio came back in uhhh

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part 2

amber scaffold
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he wasn't able to have a stand

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because Enya isn't a thing

wintry rampart
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alright

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what if

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dio

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had

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learned hamon

amber scaffold
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wtf

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he is a vampire

wintry rampart
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would he just die immedaitely

lyric nexus
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,

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can I read it

amber scaffold
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in fact part 2 Joseph is more powerful than part 3 Joseph

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if we talk about vampire fighting

lyric nexus
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well I mean yeah

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Joseph got old

amber scaffold
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if Dio was around at the BT he would die easily

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because of lack of stand

fallen shore
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Could young Joseph beat DIO?

lyric nexus
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probably

amber scaffold
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DIO?

lyric nexus
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oh

amber scaffold
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i thing nope

lyric nexus
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dio brando or DIO

amber scaffold
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But Dio yes

lyric nexus
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yeah

amber scaffold
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because of #vento-aureo spoiler DIO can't have a stand before 1980-s

fallen shore
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Yeah I meant DIO

meager spade
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killed them

wintry rampart
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what if hermit purple had a punch ghost version that joseph failed to "unlock"

meager spade
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act 2

wintry rampart
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oh i think i saw fanart somewhere of the concept

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

wintry rampart
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nvm can't find it

nimble heath
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Thats actually a cool idea tho

scenic terrace
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I'd compare it to a certain part 6 stand...

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If you know you know, but yea it'd be cool if it worked that way

dire ledge
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I think Hermit Purple was intended to be more of a "brains" stand than a fighting stand, but yeah I'm pretty sure it was it implied that it's stats would have been much higher if Joseph was still a young man or if he aquired his stand early on.

flat island
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muda

quartz vault
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ora

stiff sparrow
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i legit cried when i heard last train home today

orchid veldt
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So like just imagine the biggest twist in all of Stardusr Crusaders

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DIO owns a saxophone

weary turret
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Tenore Sax

orchid veldt
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that wasn't the joke I was going for but is much much funnier than what I was going for

amber scaffold
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@wintry rampart for the police officers it was very very strange

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Like

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Some young man came to us and asked to arrest him. Then he stayed at the cell, getting the things out of nowhere and doing other strange things. Then his grandpa with some asian man came and asked him to go home. Young man tried to suicide, but bullet just stopped in air. Then asian man was looking at him with steel in eyes, young man was looking at asian too, we bet that it became hotter. Then bars of cell was deformed and young man came out. Then they went out of police department

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And they also was speaking English, so we didn't get their conversation

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

junior garnet
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"Some Asian man" said the Japanese people about an African man

amber scaffold
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is he indian or egyptian?

junior garnet
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Egyptian

amber scaffold
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ok

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"some african man"

unreal sage
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Egypt is in africa

wanton turret
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he's generalizing

burnt zodiac
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how do we know avdol isn't from the sinai tho

halcyon shadow
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He's from Cairo

burnt zodiac
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Thanks

smoky geode
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Egypt is, in fact, in Africa

burnt zodiac
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Guys I just realized

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Cairo

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Is in Africa

wintry rampart
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....

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Yes

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Cairo is in Egypt and Egypt is in Africa. Therefore Cairo is in Africa

burnt zodiac
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shit, Egypt is in Africa? Time to redraw my map smh

halcyon shadow
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Depends on how you choose to place the Middle East

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If it's not part of Africa, then part of Egypt is outside Africa

burnt zodiac
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i just can't keep track of all the places in this anime

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like where even is New York? I live in the US and I still don't know where it's supposed to be

halcyon shadow
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New York is in the Northeast of the US

burnt zodiac
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Shit

amber scaffold
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Did you get it?

burnt zodiac
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No. What the fuck is a map?

amber scaffold
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it is the map of mediterrainean

wintry rampart
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Look I'm there

burnt zodiac
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shit yeah i can see your house from here val

halcyon shadow
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That line between Russia and Turkey is controversial

wintry rampart
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There

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I am there

halcyon shadow
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Many people would say that that part of
Russia is in Asia

near starBOT
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@halcyon shadow, Your Gangstar cred is now level 10 !

weary turret
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part of russia IS in asia

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but not the parts on the map

halcyon shadow
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These are all boundaries that have been used

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The green area has been placed on different sides

amber scaffold
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The border of Europe is Ural Mountains

near starBOT
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@amber scaffold, Your Gangstar cred is now level 7 !

amber scaffold
cinder prawn
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Joseph is still best JoJo

amber scaffold
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Speedwagon is still best JoJo

umbral forum
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no

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esidisi

burnt zodiac
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The best girl is Africa tbh

fallen shore
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Bless the rains down in Africa

burnt zodiac
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so if Rainz goes to Africa...

median yoke
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@cinder prawn Joseph is fucking trash don't @ me

faint raptor
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@median yoke

raw condor
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Joseph isn't trash you ungrateful bastards

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Don't even argue that

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Best JoJo is George

halcyon shadow
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@raw condor which George?

burnt zodiac
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jorge lol

raw condor
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Joestar lol

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Jonathan's son

wanton turret
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that's George II

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jonathan's dad exists ya know

raw condor
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yo real talk

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whatever he ded

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Kars vs DIO

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Ultimate Kars I mean, he would beat DIO'S ass easily

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right?

halcyon shadow
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It depends on whether or not he can see stands

raw condor
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Doesn't he have some insane regeneration tho?

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Actually nvm it also depends on Za Wardo's time and stuff

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It's complicated

blissful ferry
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Reigan Ronald

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Rero

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Bizzare adventure’s

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Ussr is unbreakable

burnt zodiac
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I think DIO could beat Ultimate Kars but it's like 1/10

halcyon shadow
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Stop time and beat the shit out of him before he has the chance to adapt

cinder prawn
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@median yoke chill bro

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I'm just saying that Joseph is awesome

wanton turret
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lol, i can imagine kars just readying himself with rock-hard skin after the first beatdown DIO does, just in case

night coyote
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Kars can't really harm The World

wanton turret
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he can't harm the world, but he sure can kill DIO

burnt zodiac
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yeah dio is probably fucked but i don't think it's totally impossible

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I don't think it would have a special effect on humans

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🤷

umbral forum
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ZA WARUDO or THE WORLD

burnt zodiac
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ザ・ワールド tbh

umbral forum
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wtf did you say

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I can't read spanish

wanton turret
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i dunno man, THE WORLD and The World are two different stuff and tbh, i like The World more

burnt zodiac
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el mundo idiota dinglebóp

umbral forum
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Me too

near starBOT
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@umbral forum, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

wanton turret
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Ang Mundo!

umbral forum
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I DIDN'T MEAN TO AGREE

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FUCK

burnt zodiac
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Mi estando, EL MUNDO!

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I should just watch the Spanish dub

umbral forum
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za warudo

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Za World

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The Warudo

wanton turret
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Oil Tanker

umbral forum
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sink straight to the bottom jotaro

wanton turret
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the OVA fight had so much more to offer, we got robbed

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dio not only has an oil tanker, but also a boat

umbral forum
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MOODA MOODA MOODA!!!!

smoky geode
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moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora moora

wanton turret
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crush to death

umbral forum
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MUDA MUDA MUDA

night coyote
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wtf

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lmao

burnt zodiac
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wow

wanton turret
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jotaro throws building at dio and pops up from the building midway as dio is trying to eradicate it

night coyote
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that sounds very anime

wanton turret
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dude

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do you notice where you are?

night coyote
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whoosh

wanton turret
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of course it's anime

night coyote
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thats the joke

burnt zodiac
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the Initial D section was so much better in OVA

cinder prawn
proud cypress
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el mundo

wintry rampart
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what the manhole scene is a masterpiece in the series

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I will not take this insult

mellow geode
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How tf did Jotaro even get there though

burnt zodiac
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Star Platinum called him back. Wait

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Star Finger, I guess

umbral forum
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stardust dub is amazing

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In a meme way

junior garnet
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Which

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OVA or Anime

umbral forum
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Anime

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"oh nooo"

wintry rampart
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YARE YARE DAZE

umbral forum
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instead of "OH NOOOOOO"

vernal steppe
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Good grief completely works, it's just

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That's Charlie Brown's thing

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I always thought of Charlie Brown when he said it

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I guess that's why they added "Good frickin' grief"

raw condor
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Naniiiii

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HMMMMM

fallen shore
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I think good grief works better than gimme a break

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Personally I really like the dub

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Mostly because it’s so well casted

wintry rampart
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SHUTAR PLACHINA

fallen shore
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He started out rough but he got much better as it progressed imo

vernal steppe
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I wanted Dio to sound even more camp

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Like something out of Rocky Horror Picture Show

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Haven't heard of AntFish, listening now

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I love his Zeppeli

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yup

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Pretty good DIO voice, and the euphemisms would have been good

west basin
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Hol Horse Kicks a Woman and She Pays Him

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Hol Horse Kicks a Woman and She Pays Him

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Hol Horse Kicks a Woman and She Pays Him

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Hol Horse Kicks a Woman and She Pays Him

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Hol Horse Kicks a Woman and She Pays Him

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h

half crow
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Is the OVA underappreciated or overappreciated?

fallen shore
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I think it’s appreciation is the right amount

half crow
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Yeah same

near starBOT
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@half crow, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

half crow
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I like how the OVA doesn't play music during DIO's Death

orchid veldt
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my friend is going to be watching The Hanged Man arc for the first time

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excitement is abound

half crow
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Nice

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Polunariff

junior garnet
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Avdol dies

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Except not really

orchid veldt
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the only reason I knew Avdol's death was fake the first time

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was because I saw that screenshot of him "grinding" against Joseph

half crow
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Please no

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In the OVA or modern?

orchid veldt
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well

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Sono Chi No Sadame didn't exist

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during the OVA time

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soooooooo

half crow
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If only the Drama CD was animated

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I'd love to see Dio go crazy

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Again

fallen shore
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Stand Proud would’ve been great for DIO’s death

half crow
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yeah, but not perfect

lone nymph
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What if DIO has every stand like he was originally gonna have

fallen shore
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Then it’s impossible to write and DIO is too OP

near starBOT
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@fallen shore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 15 !

lone nymph
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No

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Jotaro would have figured out he had the same type of stand

burnt zodiac
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If you're a Hamon user that doesn't have a Stand can you still see Stand if they're Spirit Hamon?

weary turret
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according to jorge joestar

half crow
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poetry

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It sounds more like Jotaro and DIO are clashing fists with their own hands and not their hands by using Stand Power

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Which I love

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UUUA! UUUUWA! ORAORAORAORAORAORA

burnt zodiac
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the mudas are kinda so-so in that situation (Speed vs. Power tradeoff) but the last two were awesome

orchid veldt
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my friend is insisting on calling "Hol Horse" the "Emperor" and now just "Ema"

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my friend is so upset that Avdol died

fallen shore
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Wait until he comes back only to actually die

orchid veldt
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OH MY GOSH

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THEY JUST SAID THIS

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"I will say that if avdol actually DOES die here, this show has my respect."

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....oh no

fallen shore
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Well...

orchid veldt
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get ready to be disappointed

fallen shore
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Shit

orchid veldt
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"Well a major part is that I do NOT like fakeout deaths."

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....oh no

undone sinew
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three words: YES I AM!

near starBOT
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@undone sinew, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

fallen shore
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Someone’s not gonna be happy with Joseph coming back

orchid veldt
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I don't know

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I expect a good long time before they reach Vanilla Ice

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cause they've been rather slow because of school and work

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it's been over a week since they saw Temperance and Ebony Devil

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"Yeah! ALso, it seems avdol is legitimately dead! Awesome!"

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my friend is in for a world of disappointment

orchid hare
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Oh no

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I remember his first “death” didn’t affect me cause I knew about “yes I am”

orchid veldt
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they don't mean awesome as in it's awesome he's dead

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just more like it's awesome for the story btw

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yeah, I also knew he wasn't dead

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because I saw a screenshot from Bastet

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one of the overly sexual screenshots lol

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but my friend is almost blind on Jojo

orchid hare
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His actual death made me real sad

near starBOT
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@orchid hare, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

orchid veldt
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I was spoiled on his real death too oops

orchid hare
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I was spoiled for kakyoin and iggy

orchid veldt
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I was spoiled for all 3 actually!

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Kakyoin way beforehand

orchid hare
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Rip

orchid veldt
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Avdol and Iggy more towards the end

undone sinew
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i discovered jojo through part 3 spoilers

orchid hare
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I’ve been spoiled for almost every jojo part at this point

undone sinew
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za warudo introduced me to jojo

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just a compilation of every time its used

mellow geode
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Yo it'd be so easy for araki to have Avdol's father join the gang or something

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Or you know

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H O L H O R S E

orchid veldt
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you know why Araki couldn't have Hol Horse join

burnt zodiac
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because he's a coward and not interested in fighting dio?

orchid veldt
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"It was great. Avdol dying was unexpected, and I'm glad they didn't bullshit us this time around. He actually died."

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oh my dear sweet naive friend

burnt zodiac
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Sweet summer child

lone nymph
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What’s everyone’s favorite op

weary turret
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Sono Chi No Kioku

junior garnet
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Why do you ask here?

mellow geode
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Chase

undone sinew
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fighting gold best op

meager spade
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asking here because the answer is stand proud,

fallen shore
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Someone else who thinks Stand Proud is top tier

meager spade
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you're gonna tell me that SICK intro with the jojos isn't great

fallen shore
#

It’s at least top 3 for me

#

But everyone ranks it near the bottom

#

Like do you not realize how hype this shit is?

meager spade
#

it's so hype

#

end of the world is overrated for it's sfx

fallen shore
#

It really is

#

I feel like people only love it because of The World bit at the end

meager spade
#

i like it only for the STAAAAAR PLATINUM

orchid hare
#

Stand proud is so good

#

It’s like my second favorite opening

vernal steppe
#

@orchid hare I was going through the rewatch threads on Reddit and someone said when their friend mentioned "YES! I AM!" they just said "turns out JoJo can do flashbacks too"

amber scaffold
#

I saw some "Yes! I am!" memes before the Judgement chapter and didn't get spoiled

rocky swallow
#

@amber scaffold Re: "healing hamon" well, Joseph's the only hamon user in Part 3 and he didn't keep up with his training or even reach the point where he could heal

amber scaffold
#

Ok

#

I'm wrong

#

He had a big potential

#

And also was the trickest hamon user (out of 7 we've seen)

#

The most powerful was Jonathan

#

I didn't like Hermit Purple first time

#

But now I think it's cool

#

Yep

lone hatch
#

is the LN that takes place during this part translated at all

near starBOT
#

@lone hatch, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

vernal steppe
#

Joseph covers his body in HP in the last fight but the thorns don't come out of his hands as far as I remember

junior garnet
#

Yeah, DIO would've seen it if it came from his hands

vernal steppe
#

Araki says he used it subconsciously in BT

wanton turret
#

i don't think so, @ hyper

#

that was dumb of me, but still i don't think so, hyper

amber scaffold
#

spider man

#

spider man

#

does whatever what spider can

junior garnet
#

Nah, he doesn't show up until later

wanton turret
#

joseph's got some strong legs

vernal steppe
#

Running will do that

junior garnet
#

NIGERUNDAYO

amber scaffold
#

Secret Joestar Tehnique

#

In fact Erina was a badass

#

We need a spin off about her life between PB and BT

#

It will be a drama

junior garnet
#

Raising a hooligan: The Erina Joestar story

amber scaffold
#

She knows that she is not the best girl

#

Speedwagon is

halcyon shadow
#

Because Jotaro didn't want to kill him

#

So he held back

amber scaffold
#

What if DIO's flesh bud helped him

wintry rampart
#

Holly is the purest being in the universe

junior garnet
#

Suzi Q

lone nymph
#

You are both fools

#

It’s speedwagon

junior garnet
#

accurate

wintry rampart
soft grail
#

One of my friends just saw Avdol and Iggy's deaths. It destroyed her.

fallen shore
#

It destroyed all of us

#

Wait till she sees Kakyoin die

#

Our beautiful red haired MILF hunting cherry licker

soft grail
#

The moment Avdol was gone. tears started rolling.

orchid veldt
#

I never understood how the name Hol Horse

#

derives from "Hall & Oates"

#

I get the Hall = Hol part

#

but I'm lost on the rest

junior garnet
#

Poor Japanese pronunciation of English words

fallen shore
#

Ohhhhhh

#

I always wondered that myself

soft grail
#

Hall=Hol Oates=Horse. Close enough to a pun.

umbral forum
#

hol horse is mega man

soft grail
#

A shame that he never came back.

burnt zodiac
#

I wish he'd have joined them but that's super infeasible so 🤷

fallen shore
#

They would’ve never forgiven him for Avdol

burnt zodiac
#

Yeah

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and Hol Horse doesn't and wouldn't care about defeating DIO

raw condor
#

Maybe he would've done it for T r e a s u r e

#

Seeing him join the Crusaders would've been amazing

lone nymph
#

Yeah I really want a hop horse spinoff honestly

#

If Rohan can get an OVA so can partial mustang

silver harbor
#

Didint araki want hol horse to join crusaders

raw condor
#

Yeah

#

But he had two issues

#

1- Find why he would want to fight Dio
2- Oh yea he killed Abdul, didn't he

#

HoHo's personality would've fit in with Polnareff

#

It's kinda disappointing seeing how fun every episode Hol Horse was in was.

wanton turret
#

wasn't araki's reason why hol wasn't a crusader was because we already have a comedic type by the name of Jotaro Polnareff?

#

so having two would be overkill

fallen shore
#

Also as he was written as a villain he didn’t write any clear weaknesses for his Stand

raw condor
#

Yea also that

#

I don't think it would've been bad to have two comedic types, everyone has their moments, except Jotaro, he's boring

#

The Emperor is also op as fuck

wintry rampart
#

why is everyone on reddit hell bent on thinking that jotaro is a buff autist

#

can't he just be cool and that's it

#

no need to try to make him autistic so they can relate to him

#

it's too perfect

#

this is what I think a live action jojo would look like

wanton turret
#

@wintry rampart

wintry rampart
#

:(

#

specific to p3

wanton turret
#

jojoke nonetheless

wintry rampart
#

it's a good edit isn't it

amber scaffold
#

Oingo Boingo rulez

orchid veldt
#

I always wondered what Hol Horse would contribute in particular fights

#

What he'd do during Wheel of Fortune

#

Justice

#

Lovers

wanton turret
#

shoot the car

orchid veldt
#

Death 13

#

High Priestess

#

GEB

#

So and so forth

wanton turret
#

i bet hol's a good gambler

orchid veldt
#

Seeing Hol almost beat D'Arby would be fun

#

I wonder if during the end of Part 3

#

If he'd be with the Darby Younger group

#

Or the Cream group

meager spade
#

darby

wanton turret
#

he'd probably be with the cream group cuz i'd imagine him be best buds with polnareff, even though he almost killed pol's best bud that one time, and also teamed up with pol's archnemesis in that same instance

meager spade
#

no way you want hol to look at avdol's ghost

#

and not think about how he almost did that

wanton turret
#

Hol: sees avdol just gone from existence oh so now he dies

orchid veldt
#

I think Araki said he'd have to kill Hol if he was a Crusader
So it's a wonder where he would die and how

#

The only two options are the Cream fight and The World fight

wanton turret
#

oooh, hol dying during the world would be nice, because he'd finally have the guts to fight dio but he'll still die

orchid veldt
#

But I wonder how he would contribute
No Jojo death has ever been in vain

#

They usually leave behind some impact before dying that helps the group

#

Or at least a member of the group

unreal sage
#

He would have shot dio in his bulge, weakening him massively

wanton turret
#

massively

#

heh

unreal sage
#

Eeheehhe

wanton turret
#

maybe he'll do that thing pol did in the ova to dio, but dio successfully kills hol as he is weakened

meager spade
#

don't kill him in the dio fight

#

that's be like

#

so lame

#

it's like kakyoin losing to darby gamer

#

after he had his monologue about overcoming fear

#

just makes him look like a fucking idiot

orchid veldt
#

That is until The World fight

wanton turret
#

i mean, would we not want to see that?

orchid veldt
#

And although I don't like how Kak immediately loses

#

We would not have gotten the gloriousness that is

#

The Darby Younger defeat

meager spade
#

i want to see hol sacrifice himself to give an opening to kill someone

potent dew
#

don't you just hate it when you're chilling then your mate drops an oil tanker on you

wanton turret
#

or you're going for a swim and he drops a boat

vernal steppe
#

If Hol Horse really concentrated i wonder if he could make Emperor a sniper rifle

#

Then he'd be devastating imo. Out of range of the whole gang

#

idk if SP's hearing is good enough to notice and catch a sniper bullet from behind

near starBOT
#

@vernal steppe, Your Gangstar cred is now level 13 !

vernal steppe
#

But Jotaro knew he was gonna do it

#

Yeah through pure psychic power SP has better senses than Jotaro

#

But if Hol is behind them and Jotaro doesn't look behind...

#

Well that's er

#

not an exhaustive list yeah

#

I'm glad he wasn't

#

Just because he was the strongest

#

The latter

#

sorry

halcyon shadow
#

He really doesn't have the social skills to be a good leader

junior garnet
#

Joseph was the leader.

vernal steppe
#

As he should be

calm solstice
#

Theres no real leader

#

Its just 1 big group with the same objective

wintry rampart
#

I feel like Joseph became a natural leader because of how charismatic he is

calm solstice
#

Avdol was the straightman everyone listened to tho

#

And even he wasnt leader

#

Everyone at some point was the head

vernal steppe
#

Joseph knew where to ho

#

Ahem

#

Where to go

#

Plus was itching to show off how worldly-wise he was, so he was mainly the leader I'd say

halcyon shadow
#

He also knew where to ho

#

Apparently Japan is where to ho

amber scaffold
#

I think that crusaders speak English, but Jotaro is not so good at English

#

So he talk less than other people

#

Kakyoin is a good student, so he know it better

#

===

#

Does Stand Proud line "Seinaru vision: Stand Proud" refererence to Holly?

fallen shore
#

I feel like Jotaro would be pretty good in English since that’s him mom’s first language

meager spade
#

jotaro is just a gloomy ass idiot

scenic terrace
#

huh

vernal steppe
#

jotaro one grumpy boi

#

Dio had a much worse upbringing but at least Dio can crack a smile from time to time

mighty stump
#

Dio is deadinside

wintry rampart
#

I was gonna ask about the language thing too, but yeah, english is likely to be the language that they speak

half crow
#

Jotaro is a grumpy mad boi

#

But I like his smiles

#

He always ends them as fast as he can

wintry rampart
#

@mighty stump nah I think he's just dead, period.

mighty stump
#

ouch

solar olive
#

can we go over the semantics of how dio froze time just to move polnareff down the stairs and resumed the same pose like three times just to troll him?

fallen shore
#

Yes it’s hilarious

solar olive
#

dio is quite the troll

#

and the best shitposter

meager spade
#

i like and hate how this is a constant endless topic

solar olive
#

imagine if dio just kept doing that infinitely

near starBOT
#

@solar olive, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

smoky geode
#

looking both ways

#

in stopped time

lone hatch
#

just read the manga of this
gotta say that i enjoyed the manga more than i enjoyed DP's adaptation of it since the bad parts were more tolerable (though i do think the anime did the actual good parts better even if the good parts are very few and far between for stardust crusaders imo)

fallen shore
#

What parts didn’t you like?

#

I’m curious because Part 3 is my second favorite part and a lot of people seem to not like it

#

Also I always had the impression it was the most popular part but it seems like it’s actually the opposite

solar olive
#

part three is the worst tbh

scenic terrace
#

nah

fallen shore
#

I don’t see how it’s worse than Part 1 and 2 (Yes I said it, Battle Tendency is overrated please don’t kill me)

solar olive
#

it has autism.

scenic terrace
#

hmmm @fallen shore Well that's incorrect but okay

fallen shore
#

In my opinion

solar olive
#

part two is the second best part

#

part five best part

scenic terrace
#

I have those switched around

fallen shore
#

Part 2 is 4th or 5th at best

#

I haven’t read SBR yet so idk

scenic terrace
#

Yea...your opinion big wrong my guy

fallen shore
#

Part 2 Joseph is best JoJo though I’ll give it that

scenic terrace
#

Now that is a good example of a fantastic fact lmao, my order is Battle Tendency>Vento Aureo>Steel Ball Run>Stardust Crusaders>Stone Ocean>Phantom Blood>Diamond is Unbreakable

solar olive
#

careful not to talk about Joseph's feminine side, he gets mad when you do

fallen shore
#

Diamond is Unbreakable at the bottom? Ouch. That my favorite part lol

scenic terrace
#

It's fantastic

#

It just holds the bottom spot

fallen shore
#

Yeah there’s no bad JoJo parts

scenic terrace
#

W O K E

orchid veldt
#

I agree

#

no Jojo part is bad

#

some just have some more flaws than others

meager spade
#

steezy you're so valid

fervent ivy
#

@fallen shore brother

#

I knew I wasn't the only one that thought BT was overrated

fallen shore
#

Yo

#

Yes

#

A kindred spirit

solar olive
#

the reason stardust crusaders is less popular Is because its way too protag-centered

fervent ivy
#

I think the reason that SC is hated is because people loved part 2 so much, and part 3 had too many stinker fights, that they don't forgive it

lapis glen
#

BT is overrated? I thought it was a universal truth that it wasn't as good as anything that came afterwards.

fervent ivy
#

no

#

definitely not

#

I have seen

#

SOOOO many people say its their favorite and often in their top 3

fallen shore
#

BT is definitely top 3 most popular part

fervent ivy
#

it's probably second in the US anime only scene

solar olive
#

bt? overrated? ha, you mean to say diu is overrated

lapis glen
#

Weird. I thought it was okay but it was lame compared to everything afterward.

fervent ivy
#

DiU is a bit overrated but not as much as BT

lapis glen
#

DiU is a damn good part, but people tend to overlook its flaws.

#

It takes too long to really get going.

#

It's just that it's absolutely amazing once it does.

solar olive
#

@fervent ivy your next line will be "what do you take me for, some kind of autist?"

fervent ivy
#

@lapis glen I 100% agree with you (except I liked Jonathan's development better) but most people seem to think its the hottest shit

#

most of them are people I've met irl but there's also a HUGE number I've seen from people online as well

#

what do you take me for, some kind of autist?

#

WUT

fallen shore
#

Yeah I DIU is my favorite part but I agree with it starting out slow

#

Doesn’t get really good till around half way

fervent ivy
#

I actually don't mind that it starts slow

#

what killed DiU for me

fallen shore
#

Why’s that?

solar olive
#

three words

wanton turret
#

SPOILERS

fervent ivy
#

wait guys

#

we need to take this to manga general

solar olive
#

you mean anime general

fallen shore
wanton turret
#

ugh, can you guys delete your non SDC messages?

fervent ivy
#

I'll try and delete some of them

#

are you a mod

wanton turret
#

i am

fervent ivy
#

can you delete messages

wanton turret
#

i can, i'll delete some of them

fervent ivy
#

I have already deleted mine

potent dew
#

you know i never realized that when DIO stops time in this scene

#

now this is epic

lone hatch
#

@fallen shore late reply but it’s just that there were almost no good fights in all of SC
if Araki wasn’t so good at making a fun cast of characters (except jotaro and Avdol) then I would straight up say that SC is bad
I still think it’s far more negatives than positives but the actually good parts are really good so it lucks out there
I’m just really hard pressed to think of any legitimately good fights outside of Pet Shop, Dio, and maybe the two D’Arbys if I’m in a good mood
the others are all really unengaging and boring as hell

#

I notice u said that DiU is ur favorite part and I also share that opinion for the simple reason that every stand battle is entertaining to me

silver harbor
#

@lone hatch anubis fight was good

lone hatch
#

Disagree

silver harbor
#

Why?

lone hatch
#

I don’t find it very fun to watch except for the Polnareff Vs Chaka part

#

I do like that part

proud cypress
#

i will fight anyone who says vanilla ice fight was bad

clear pelican
#

I liked it because it brought back the concept of Vampire immortality near the end

silver harbor
#

Anyone know where i can download stardust crusaders (Departure, journey, world and destination) ost ?

#

Would appriciate help

#

The only jojo ost missing ohmygod

lone hatch
#

the vanilla ice fight is bad

silver harbor
#

Polnareff shoulda been the one to die not Abdul

#

Fite me

proud cypress
#

the only thing avdol did was die

#

and he was so bad at dying he did it twice

orchid veldt
#

Tbf Avdol saved Polnareff's life....twice

soft grail
#

Avdol's first death was faked because the Japanese fans wanted him back.

orchid veldt
#

That's what I've heard a lot, is there an actual source on that?

wanton turret
#

does that video cover stuff beyond part 3?

soft grail
#

Araki killed Avdol the first time because he couldn't think of any other uses for his Stand.

#

I don't remember, but be careful in case.

orchid veldt
#

I think it has Part 4 stuff

wanton turret
#

better safe than sorry

soft grail
#

Okay, moved it.

scenic terrace
soft grail
silver harbor
#

I always call him Abdul

#

Avdol feels wrong

#

Abdul also feels more muslim since he os a muslim

orchid veldt
#

But Avdol is the official name

wanton turret
#

it's fine it's fineee, both check out

soft grail
#

Abdul is mainly Japanese and Avdol is just the English translation.

eternal zodiac
#

rip in kill ova dio

wintry rampart
#

Dumb question, but why do you guys think DIO never made any more zombies or vampires aside from Nukesaku and Vanilla Ice?

#

Like, in-verse, not just the obvious reason that Stands were the new hip thing

scenic terrace
#

They're in Egypt. Sunlight would've been a huge disadvantage to the one's he sent after the group. I believe he only made Vampires out of the one's who stayed in his castle most of the time correct?

wintry rampart
#

Yeah, and Vanilla Ice was only brought back because DIO was impressed by his true loyalty. And Nukesaku was just everyone’s punching bag.

#

Sunlight would be one big reason, yeah, even if they are Stand Users. They would be forced to only come out at night, which would make them more predictable.

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

wintry rampart
#

And give the group more time to get to Egypt, leaving DIO with less time to prepare.

#

Also, don’t you think if he made everyone into a Zombie or Vampire, that would drain a ton of blood from him (in the Vampire case) and just take a while in general?

#

Nah, it’s not

#

Because blood

#

Nukesaku is also a vampire

#

Alrighty

#

I just wanted to get some opinions on the question. I think it would be pretty dumb on DIO’s part if he made his Stand Users undead or vampires.

#

Well yeah, he just brought him back because he was a great Stand User and DIO was impressed by his loyalty.

#

And Vanilla Ice never had to leave the mansion, so sunlight shouldn’t have been an issue, buuuuuut...

#

Yep

#

But his immortality kicked in when he was supposed to die

#

Or maybe it didn’t

#

Maybe he was immortal the entire time

#

Probably that

#

But anyways, yeah, if DIO made all his Stand Users into vampires or zombies, and sent them out of the mansion to take care of the Joestar group, they’d be hindered by sunlight.

#

And DIO would be at a disadvantage because it would take even longer to heal up with all the blood he’d have to drain to make them into vampires in the first place.

#

Even if he only made a few, it would still set him back, waste time, and give the Joestar group a bit more time.

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

amber scaffold
#

But what if Vanilla Ice climb into Cream's mouth

#

Can he use it to avoid sunlight?

wintry rampart
#

Yeah, and we saw him do that

#

When he flew around through walls outside then back inside the mansion

#

But

amber scaffold
#

But he did it at the mansion

#

there was no sun

wintry rampart
#

He wasn’t even aware he was a vampire

amber scaffold
#

I mean

#

What if he do it at the open space

#

When it is day

wintry rampart
#

But why would he go out

soft grail
#

The big disadvantage about Cream is that you can't see anything in the void.

wintry rampart
#

When the Joestars are already inside

#

Also, if DIO sent Vanilla Ice out as like a glory god, he wouldn’t have made him into a vampire

soft grail
#

There really was no reason for Vanilla Ice to be a vampire.

amber scaffold
#

You need a pic of Vanilla Ice with his stand
@
You go to the google
@
FUCK

wintry rampart
#

He only asked for blood from Ice to make a point about loyalty, because he was saying D’arby failed because he wasn’t ready to die for him

#

If Ice was sent out beforehand, this conversation wouldn’t have happened.

soft grail
#

True.

wintry rampart
#

So yeah, DIO didn’t want to be a dumdum and send things with a weakness to the sun out into the sun

amber scaffold
#

Can Vanilla Ice go to the sunny place this way?

wintry rampart
#

I mean, probably, but most likely his face would burn up

#

But the thing is

soft grail
#

I don't think so. The sun could still get him at different angles.

wintry rampart
#

Vanilla Ice wouldn’t have even been a vampire if he was sent out as a Glory God or whatnot

#

Ice never had to leave

#

Nor did he even know he was a vampire

amber scaffold
#

yep

#

but what if he win

#

He will be a kind of prisoner of the mansion

soft grail
#

I think the user mainly has the vampiric qualities, not the Stand.

amber scaffold
#

hm

#

ok

soft grail
#

If that was the case, then the World could suck blood as well.

wintry rampart
#

I’m pretty sure if ZA WARUDO punched Hamon-infused Hermit Purple, he would’ve been fucced

#

But if it was just Hamon

#

Then no

#

Because only Stands can harm Stands

#

I know that doesn’t apply for every Stand, but it does in this case.

#

Because Hamon-infused Hermit Purple

#

He was going for his tummy

#

Like Kak

soft grail
#

Hamon= Hermit Purple.

wintry rampart
#

Joseph is able to conduct Hamon through his Stand. So if The World punched that, it would’ve hurt it, and in turn, DIO.

#

If Joseph just wrapped Hermit Purple alone around himself, it probably would’ve done a shit job at stopping DIO.

#

And he would’ve died then and there.

soft grail
#

Yeah. The more spread out, the less focused the energy would be in other places.

wintry rampart
#

The Hamon would’ve been connected to the Stand, so yes, it would’ve hurt.

#

Well Joseph matured somewhat over the past 50 years

soft grail
#

Still a trickster, but a smart one.

wintry rampart
#

Experienced, yeah.

#

What if Joseph tried to throw coal tar on The World like with Empress? DIO probably would’ve yeeted outta the way with timestop, but if that hit and solidified The World, it would’ve been pretty humorous

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

wintry rampart
#

Unless of course that only worked on Empress because she had a physical form on Joseph’s arm.

soft grail
#

Tar wouldn't have worked. The Empress was strong, but not as strong as the World.

wintry rampart
#

Oh right, it was pretty small.

#

You’re right, my bad.

#

Any Stand User could’ve just broken out of that.

#

Or Stand

#

If they’re strong enough

soft grail
#

The tar would basically be Elmer's glue to them.

near starBOT
#

@soft grail, Your Gangstar cred is now level 9 !

wintry rampart
#

True. Still would’ve been funny if it worked though

#

A taste of his own medicine

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 17 !

wintry rampart
#

He probably felt proud

#

So do you think DIO also lost the Space Ripper Stingy Eyes like how he lost his Freezing technique with his old body?

amber scaffold
#

Maybe he is too weak for it

#

Or he forgot about it

#

Because DIO is less clever than Dio

wintry rampart
#

Either or could work.

#

But if you think about it

#

Those techniques would be kinda useless

#

Why shoot two linear beams when you can throw knives in all directions

amber scaffold
#

I mean, it is okay to be a bit insane after lying at the bottom of the sea for 100 years

#

Maybe DIO thinks that it is not cool now

wintry rampart
#

Well, SRSE requires essence

soft grail
#

The reason behind that is because he's using Jonathan's body. Due to Jonathan's body rejecting DIO, he can't do the same techniques like he did in Phantom Blood.

amber scaffold
#

But

#

But

#

His eyes is not changed

wintry rampart
#

And if he can’t use essence, then he couldn’t make zombies

#

So that would also explain the thing I said earlier

soft grail
#

Eyes are still the same.

amber scaffold
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@wintry rampart SRSE is basically a shot of eyes' liquid

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I said same thing to @soft grail

wintry rampart
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It said in the mango it was a shot of essence

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Not specifically from the eyes

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It just comes out the eyes

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In Phantom Blood, it said compacted bodily essence shot from the eyes iirc

soft grail
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DIO is only 10% of what he used to be. He had to adjust to a completely new body for a century. Hence, why he can't use the same techniques in part 1.

wintry rampart
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Yeah. So he can’t just go around making undead, using SRSE, or Freezing.

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And when he’s complete, why would he bother? He has the best Stand

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Atleast that’s what he thought

soft grail
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DIO doesn't know how to activate Hamon and the energy of it is what makes it difficult adjusting to Jonathan's body.

wintry rampart
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I’m pretty sure it would kill him if he tried to use Hamon.

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

soft grail
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Yeah. DIO would die the same way that Straits did in part 2.

wintry rampart
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Yep

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Hamon-suicide

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I do love how DIO is a big troll though

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What with the staircase scene

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And the coffin scene

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That’s another thing I was thinking about

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But, i’ve come to two conclusions:

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He either got used to sleeping in a coffin from time to time because of being stuck in one for 100 years

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Or

scenic terrace
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Dio is kinky

wintry rampart
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He literally used the coffin just to troll the group

scenic terrace
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All valid guesses

wintry rampart
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But i’m sure he does spend most time up there during the day like reading or something, and occasionally likes to chill in his bed any other time.

soft grail
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JoJo villains get really intriguing when you start to think about their lives outside of battle.

wintry rampart
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And it’s cool

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I’m assuming when DIO used SRSE when he was just a head it probably used the last of his essence

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And that’s why he had none till he was complete in SC

near starBOT
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@scenic terrace, Your Gangstar cred is now level 9 !

wintry rampart
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DIO be readin bout that Jesus

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Also the OVA is the OVA

raw condor
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nice pfp

scenic terrace
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Did yall click the link?

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You mentioned Dio in the OVA so it felt relevant, may he rest in piece

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Not sure, but I think it's relevant enough

wintry rampart
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You guys know about the part 3 fighting game, Heritage for the Future, right?

terse dawn
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yeye?

wintry rampart
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So I was playing that on an emulator on the Wii with homebrew, my granddad comes and sits down beside me to watch, then starts to go on a rant about “turn off this damn show with the guardian spirit fighting, I wanna see some one on one”.

eternal zodiac
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question

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if vanilla ice goes into cream and just kinda walks around like he can do in hftf is he invisible to non stand users or just floating

wintry rampart
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Just floating

eternal zodiac
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k den

wintry rampart
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It would be kinda bs to be playing as Young Joseph and not be able to see Stands

terse dawn
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that's horrifying

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i feel young joseph would probably be able to see them but like

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it's flickery

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like you can sorta? but not rly? but still SORT OF

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like if you're close enough

wintry rampart
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You can play as Shadow DIO, the one before he is revealed

eternal zodiac
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didnt araki say in an interview that if the crusaders travelled back to battle tendency time that they would see hermit purple wrapped around joseph

wintry rampart
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And he can use SRSE

eternal zodiac
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so he can see stands cant he

terse dawn
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probably

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he just can't use his for shit

junior garnet
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I like things where Stands are shown as less "solid" in general

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Like you can sort of see through them

wintry rampart
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What if Joseph is using his Stand subconsciously in Part 2

junior garnet
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It gives them more of a Spirit Guardian vibe to me

terse dawn
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that'd be cool

wintry rampart
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To predict what everyone will say next

eternal zodiac
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hermit purple is a telepathic kinda thing

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so yeah

wintry rampart
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@junior garnet I can agree with the guardian spirit thing. They were made to basically be that.

eternal zodiac
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i just remembered something

wintry rampart
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According to Araki.

eternal zodiac
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isnt star platinum one of the only stands that automatically protects the user

wintry rampart
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Also what is it?

eternal zodiac
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like we have heavy weather and crazy diamojd

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but we never really see another stand that does that

wintry rampart
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I think all Stands do that automatically

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We just don’t see it

eternal zodiac
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fair enough

wintry rampart
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Like how it’s possible for all Stands to phase through things

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Or shrink down

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But I don’t think that applies to bound Stands

eternal zodiac
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yeah that whole stands being able to phase through things is pretty inconsistent

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we only see it happen a few times

wintry rampart
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Yeah

terse dawn
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sta fiinguu

eternal zodiac
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like with magicians red through the bars or with star platinum and joseph

wintry rampart
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Well I mean, there were no real instances where it would be needed

terse dawn
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why phase through jail bars when you can fuckng... punhc them

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punching solves all problems

eternal zodiac
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like in hftf