#stardust-crusaders

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calm solstice
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becase certain stands manifest as physichal objects that can be seen

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its like how a normal person could see ebony devil since it posseses a doll

candid thunder
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oh.

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SORRY IM A NOOB AT JOJO

bold badger
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also the speedwagon boyos saw strength

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but no one remembers them because half their lines were screams of pain

wanton turret
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it's a vine stand

simple dagger
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Idk
Maybe from the beginning

orchid veldt
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Can I just say how much I love this particular moment?

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in the manga this bit is a bit anticlimatic with Judgement just throwing Sheri at Avdol and Avdol burning it up

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but David Production decided to make the moment mean more

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and develop Polnaerff's already great character even further

simple dagger
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Yeah, it was great

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Polnareff struggles with his guilt more than Jotaro does with the idea of her mother dying

uncut vault
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something came to my mind. why the heck didnt joseph bring red stone of aja and used hamon to laser dio

rocky swallow
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Didn't the stone break after Kars used it+the mask?

uncut vault
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nah joseph used it against kars

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to launch the stone

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mask broke

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not stone

rocky swallow
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Maybe Joseph lost it during the chaos of volcano explosion

uncut vault
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maybe

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he sold it on ebay

rocky swallow
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He would

craggy lagoon
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Speedwagon foundation problably found it

near starBOT
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@craggy lagoon, Your Gangstar cred is now level 11 !

craggy lagoon
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Or it got lost in the ocean

uncut vault
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they used it on speedwagon he became ultimate life form

craggy lagoon
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Nah he died before they could do this

uncut vault
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jk

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i mean it would be cool for joseph to teach joatro hamon

rocky swallow
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StarPlat + Hamon

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RIP Dio

uncut vault
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emeraldo sprasho+hamon ded

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i mean jotaro would put some oil on his hands joseph would charge it with hamon and boom

wintry rampart
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Jotaro>Hamon

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Too lame for Jotaro

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He wouldnt even use it any more

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Wish joseph still practiced hamon so he could stay young

uncut vault
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maybe he wanted to age with his wife

wintry rampart
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yeah

rocky swallow
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And I don't think Joseph's disciplined enough to train his hamon to Lisa Lisa's level

wintry rampart
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Oof ye

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Stone of aja was op

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tbf

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If it was still in the series

rocky swallow
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Yeah. Part 3 wouldn't even take place if they had it ๐Ÿ˜‚

wintry rampart
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Lmao ofc

rocky swallow
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I wonder if Lisa Lisa's still around somewhere during Stardust Crusaders or if she finally decided to age/died

wintry rampart
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She died

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in the last episode of part 2

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it said that she aged and died

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peacefully

rocky swallow
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Damn. I have to review canon. It's been a while since I read the earlier parts

near starBOT
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@rocky swallow, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

rocky swallow
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[yaaaay ๐Ÿ’ช ]

wintry rampart
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Its been a while since I watched part 4 and the previous ones

uncut vault
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i have read a little of part 5 i mean i prefer anime imo

near starBOT
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@uncut vault, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

craggy lagoon
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I tough you were talking about erina not lisa lisa

rocky swallow
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All I know is she got re-married to a Hollywood dude

uncut vault
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joseph talked to her in that cafe where he told jotaro about stands i think

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in manga

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she is probably alive because she would be 100yrs old and she used hamon probably

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to look younger

frosty ridge
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Does hamon just make you look younger or does it slow down the aging process altogether?

twin laurel
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It's life energy

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Which means it slows down your aging process

uncut vault
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yea it slows it in that scene where zeppeli gives all hamon to jonathan he looks like he is fricking gandolf

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its like golden expirience

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zeppelli gave his life energy to jonathan and jonathan body could barely hold the power

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in his body

orchid veldt
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I'm finding like

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Kakyoin analysis videos online

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and I'm just like

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"What is there to analyze?"

craggy lagoon
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Wrong channel oops

tawny cargo
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stardust crusaders except they open dio's coffin in the middle of the day instead

frosty ridge
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yeah, seriously. how much trouble would they have saved themselves if they'd just waited until early sunrise next morning to confront dio?

wanton turret
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i don't think you know but it's not that they could wait for early sunrise, it's that they can't

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DIO would confront them either way, whether they hunt him or not

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plus, time is ticking down on them, the more they wait the closer holly is to dying

tawny cargo
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no

near starBOT
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@tawny cargo, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

tawny cargo
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i mean like

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when they fish him out

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at the very start

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they open the coffin on the morning

frosty ridge
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Yeah, I've always wondered how Dio actually survived that opening prologue. Did he just... like... kill the dude who was opening the coffin immediately before he was exposed to sunlight?

tawny cargo
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wait

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eeehhhh

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i think

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i just remembered

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they mentioned it was closed from the inside

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they could have not been able to open it

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then dio just

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sensed, somehow

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when it was night

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and opened it

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makes sense

potent obsidian
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Maybe they would attract unwanted attention?

potent obsidian
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Civilians

unreal sage
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"why are these guys posing and screaming at each other"

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"and how did that guy get that wound, the other guy didnt even touch him"

wanton turret
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i mean, Ice pretty much voided more or less 1/4th of the mansion, including foundations like pillars and walls and it still didn't collapse

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considering Ice can destroy things faster than Jotaro, who's pretty much the only user in the team strong enough to destroy stuff made of stone in a short amount of time, not considering kak, they probably couldn't destroy it all

simple dagger
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Why is Dio flirting with all his servants ?

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I mean, he whispered in his ears

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He whispered in everybodies' ears

craggy lagoon
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He does that with his slaves

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Imagine if he was a woman

simple dagger
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If he was a woman I would have trouble with who is the best waifu

mighty trellis
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kono kaykyoin

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d a

wintry rampart
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"kakyoin-kun"

vivid quarry
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lakyoin

wintry rampart
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cause he got caught lacking

simple dagger
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he lack his chest

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donut boy

wintry rampart
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poor lakyoin

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he just wanted donuts

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and he became one

simple dagger
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DIO BROCKED OUR CARDBOARD CUTOUT

dire ledge
uncut vault
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dio be like charisma 1->100

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speech 1->100

small garden
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I like how he stopped time, walked down, picked up Polnareff, put him down the stairs and walked back up again

uncut vault
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i mean dio would easily kill polnarref but i guess he just wanted to troll him

tawny cargo
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hey uh

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remember kakyoin's painting thing

small garden
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yeah

uncut vault
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ye

tawny cargo
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where he painted a red line

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on jotaro

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and he cut jotaro like that

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do they... say anything in the manga about that?

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because the anime says nothing

uncut vault
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no he didnt have that power it was just like to be a more dramatic scene

tawny cargo
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oh so it's just an asspull

small garden
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I don't know if that was one of his abilities, or it was just his stand cutting Jotaro

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Araki forgets sometimes

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Kakyoin lost his power to "puppet" people too

tawny cargo
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yeah, true

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although

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doesn't he semi-do that

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with death 13?

small garden
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I don't know

tawny cargo
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he gets inside him

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he doesn't fully control him, i don't think

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but he slithers in

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although maybe if you think about it

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the power to puppeteer people

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doesn't seem very hero-y

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does it

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i guess maybe araki cut it out so kakyoin looked less like a villain?

small garden
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I hear that a lot and it makes sense

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I would've loved to see him use it on villains though

tawny cargo
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ye

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just

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slither in

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on steely

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also do we see that uhh

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changing your stand's size

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thing

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ever again?

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we don't don't we

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araki forgets many things

eager arrow
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I mean you still could shrink your stand but it would do less damage

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But at the same time, it's easier to kill a stand user if you crawl inside their ear and start fucking their brain up๐Ÿค”

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even though that wouldn't be a really interesting fight

uncut vault
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Wait

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Why didnt they bring like kakyoyin back to life

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Like joseph

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I mean fight only was 10 minutes or something

craggy lagoon
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He had a huge hole on his stomach

wanton turret
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i don't think they can do anything about a huge gaping hole in the torso

uncut vault
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If we only had healing stand in part 3

craggy lagoon
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I dont think vampire blood could help

uncut vault
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Well vannila ice cut his head

craggy lagoon
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No i mean, what if he became a vampire

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Becomes*

wanton turret
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plus it's dio's blood so kakyoin would be kinda evil if it did work

uncut vault
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I mean i dont think it would turn you evil like zombies and vampires are not same

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I mean zombies from part 1

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Idk

craggy lagoon
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Like dio said

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The mask turn people into vampires but also take their humanity

uncut vault
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Why didnt joseph turn into a vampire

wanton turret
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cuz he has hamon blood

uncut vault
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Dammit joseph

craggy lagoon
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But

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Dio sucked him

uncut vault
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Dry

craggy lagoon
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Without problems

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I have to rewatch that

uncut vault
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Well why didnt he succ kakyoyin i mean can you succ a live person

wanton turret
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man i wished that part where joseph acted like dio was the real thing, like, a final final battle against dio

uncut vault
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AL YANKOVIC

wanton turret
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yeah dio can succ kak but he needed joestar blood

craggy lagoon
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Hmm star platinum made joseph's hearth beat

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But i dont think that would make hamon work

uncut vault
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Wait why didnt dio die if he sucked hamon blood

craggy lagoon
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Maybe bc joseph was dead

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Like acdc used loggs hand without problems

uncut vault
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Well dio made some cherry donuts we can say

blazing tartan
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Why didn't Dio suck Kakyoin's blood ?
Because he needed Joestar blood.

Why didn't Joseph transform into a vampire ?
Hamon blood.

Then why didn't Dio die when he sucked Joseph's blood ?
Because Hamon requires its user to breathe.

wanton turret
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oh right, dio's a vampire

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he, like, doens't need to breathe

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as seen with him only being a head in part1

blazing tartan
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@wanton turret It's also a very specific way to breath, not just normal inspire-expire motion

wanton turret
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true

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maybe joseph does the hamon breathing naturally through muscle memory, like he only does it when in a dangerous situation

blazing tartan
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Yeah sorry jotarosweat

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@wanton turret I believe Hamon users (after hard training ofc) are able to let it flow almost constantly in their veins, but not powerful Hamon

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But I'm not sure whether it's true or my memories are confused

wanton turret
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yeah sure, maybe it's like that, that's why DIO isn't affected by joseph's and jonathan's blood, despite being jonathan's body because after he succed joseph's, he now had full control but he isn't trained to hamon himself naturally

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also stop pinging me it's not like i left, at all

blazing tartan
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It's just that my "yeah sorry" was to GreatTurnabout

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Well ... shouldn't you assume the contrary ?

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Giving the last of one's Hamon seemingly ends one's life

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True but I do believe Ceasar died the exact moment his Hamon left his body. The roof just crushed a corpse.

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Oh yeah, I'm just saying emptying his body of Hamon just accelerated the process

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I also need to rewatch the Baron's death to make sure but if I remember correctly, his body started growing older by the second as he gave Jonathan his Hamon

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I need to rewatch Phantom Blood

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Yeah that's the issue, but then again he wouldn't give all of his Hamon if he knew he wasn't going to die

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So doesn't that mean he needs Hamon to survive ?

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True that

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Though it could also be that Hamon training maintains your body in the healthiest state possible

rocky swallow
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I wouldn't say that you need Hamon to survive? that implies that regular people who don't practice Hamon are just gonna keel over and die. I think it's more "if you reach a certain level of Hamon mastery, you're gonna long younger and stay healthier"

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Hmmm... so then it's more "baseline energy that everyone has but only masters can control to look and stay young"?

blazing tartan
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Hamon is mastered life energy

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Sort of like Haki in One piece, everyone can master it (well the difference is people don't need it to survive)

rocky swallow
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He wasn't trained. If we assume that Hamon's life energy that everyone has, if you're not trained, you can't use it/you just have the regular levels that keep you alive

blazing tartan
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Hamon is mastered breathing

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People breathe but they don't train their breathing

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At least not like a Hamon user does

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Every human "possesses" Hamon but only very few master it

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Well that's what I assumed anyway

rocky swallow
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Same here haha

blazing tartan
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Well you could call that plot convenience. Or maybe you just need an already trained body to use Hamon.

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Which Speedwagon didn't have.

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I think.

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Well his body wasn't as buff as Jonathan's

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Well Jotaro trained a lot to get on Dio's level

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He practiced boxing, rugby etc

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I don't think Speedwagon had such a growth

rocky swallow
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And there's also the special breathing technique which Speedwagon couldn't do, for some reason

blazing tartan
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Either plot convenience or his body wasn't fitting Hamon practice

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Then again Joseph did use Hamon when he was, what, 12 ?

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So it's plot convenience

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Or very bad luck

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Hm ArakiThink

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Zeppeli might've pranked Speedwagon

worthy cedar
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my friends at stardust crusaders, ep 25, shoudl he skip the allesi eps

smoky geode
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no

wanton turret
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sure, if he wants to

blazing tartan
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He can I guess but why ?

uncut vault
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shitting in bath

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lol

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or pornareff grabbing titties

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i mean if only joseph was in allesi fight

tawny cargo
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the lore on the story mode of heritage for the future if you play as young joseph

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is alessi using his stand on joseph

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and in fact, if alessi uses his stand ingame with old joseph, he converts into young joseph

remote skiff
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and if he uses it on youngseph

tawny cargo
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so old joseph is the ultimate counter to alessi, since he doesn't transform into a shite char

remote skiff
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he becomes helicopter him

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also he doesn't become young joseph with all his moves

tawny cargo
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no?

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oh

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i could swear he did

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dang

remote skiff
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he becomes joseph with punches and such

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unless i remember wrong

tawny cargo
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well lemme test it

remote skiff
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i mean alessi can be countered by everyone's favorite character

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hol horse

tawny cargo
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hol horse can go succ an eg

remote skiff
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what about hoingo

tawny cargo
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correct

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he's only

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young joseph

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with regular punches

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and stuff

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anyways yes missed opportunity for the anime/manga

remote skiff
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i mean youngseph's story is the best thing

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if that actually happened

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we would have been truly blessed

remote skiff
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he had it as a playable character

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but not when oldseph was alessi'd

remote skiff
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probably

craggy lagoon
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Wtf

orchid veldt
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๐Ÿค”

simple dagger
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I

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Uh

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Yeah

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They don't have that much of an age gape

faint raptor
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Wait what

wanton turret
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i don't think that's cited, nor approved by wikia mods

remote skiff
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yeah it's not there anymore

wanton turret
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i mean, the wikia is a public edit place so stuff like that appears all the time, misinformed/no proof kinda stuff i mean

remote pawn
worthy cedar
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why doesnt DIO use his part 1 powers

wanton turret
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because he isn't fully vampire because he stole jonathan's bod

wanton turret
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looks at High-DIO fight which is him pretty much with total control over the body

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hmmm, doubt

wanton turret
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i mean, he had reason to use knives, though that was pre-high, what's stopping him from using the more powerful space ripper stingy eyes

heavy parrot
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I don't think he was 100% healed when he absorbed Joseph's blood

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He also absorbed blood from a Hamon user

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Which can't be good for him

elfin dune
silk aspen
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and does anyone know if anyone has blended "Star Platinum" (^) with "Stardust Crusaders"?

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because i will have a good time to that mashup

kind glen
quiet night
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I don't wanna stir the pot but...

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blue jotaro or black jotaro?

past escarp
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Blue jotaro

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Just like how orange/red Dio > yellow Dio

wanton turret
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black dio and green jotaro

quiet night
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actually I think dio would look pretty badass if his part 3 outfit was all black

past escarp
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Ow the edge

quiet night
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WHERE'S THAT DAMN FOURTH STAND USER

past escarp
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?

quiet night
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its a sonic reference

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specifically to shadow

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he says that

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well not stand user but you get the point

past escarp
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Right before bringing out his own stand, "Paint it Black"

quiet night
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yes

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Ooh

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I just had an idea

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Swapdust crusaders

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its part 3 but the personalities are reversed

near starBOT
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@quiet night, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

quiet night
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so jotaro has dio's personality and vice versa

past escarp
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Watch your step, this is scary close to Undertale AU levels of fuckery

quiet night
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dude personality swaps came LONG before undertale

past escarp
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Hm I guess

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Would certainly be interesting

quiet night
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just jotaro beating the shit out of steely dan, not giving a shit that lovers is still in joseph's head

past escarp
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That sounds like some good shit

quiet night
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mhm

past escarp
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But tbh Dio with Jotaro wouldn't be all that different, just edgier

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Jotaro's personality*

quiet night
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I think he'd constantly be in shadow dio mode

past escarp
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Like, he'd be angrier and quieter

quiet night
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yeah

past escarp
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Yeah

calm solstice
worthy cedar
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This is the only good thing in the alessi arc.

quiet night
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agreed

worthy cedar
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You follow me everywhere

quiet night
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what can I say?

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You're very agreeable

small garden
quiet night
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yes

past escarp
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I think that's the happiest we ever see Star Platinum in all of JoJo's

worthy cedar
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We saw jotaro laugh at episode 18

past escarp
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Hm good point

quiet night
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not to mention splatinum had a more smirky face in the manga

rocky swallow
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He just looks so excited in this moment

worthy cedar
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What if Hol Horse joined the crusaders?

quiet night
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didn't he do that for a short bit during justice?

calm solstice
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no

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araki thought about it

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but he didnt

worthy cedar
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that would had been cool

quiet night
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yeah

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the only ranger they had was kakyoin

worthy cedar
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isnt polnareff a ranger too

quiet night
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and I can think of a few fights where emperor would've come in handy

worthy cedar
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it isn't so powerful after jgeil dies

wanton turret
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tbh, hol's emperor is still pretty powerful even after jgail dies

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like, just hol

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but he doesn't have faith in himself so he needs a pardner

past escarp
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Hol Horse could easily kill all the crusaders, his whole character point is that he's too much of a coward to do it alone

wanton turret
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he needs to have at least a kid for himself to be confident enough

worthy cedar
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what if he killed DIO?

quiet night
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"If you're going to shoot me then shoot"
"Okay"
POW

wanton turret
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then, well, the story would be over

worthy cedar
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but wait..

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there's still vanilla ice.

quiet night
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okay so if hol horse has to die who would you trade out?

wanton turret
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i dunno, with dio's death holly would be cured, they would all go back to japan, ice would only kill hol, the end

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what do you mean, foof

past escarp
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Not backlash, just that people liked and missed him

bright rain
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Can we have a kill count for stardust crusaders?

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for each crusader?

wanton turret
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no

bright rain
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and a seperate retire count

wanton turret
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oh, then 3 for crusaders

bright rain
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No, as in, how many people each crusader killed

wanton turret
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oh

bright rain
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and retired

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And by retired I mean the "Beat the shit out of them, they're not coming back for seconds"

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retired

near starBOT
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@bright rain, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

bright rain
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I think this is jotaro's first kill

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if I recall correctly

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No "OH my god I killed a man oh shit oh shit"

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Just absolutely casual about it

mighty trellis
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die kakyoin

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โœŠ

worthy cedar
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i skipped alessi arc judge me all ya want

blazing tartan
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I just thought about something ... interesting

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What if Joseph had taught Kakyoin how to use Hamon

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Just imagine the damage he could've inflicted to DIO

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His barrier would've been super dangerous even in stopped time

mighty trellis
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i dont think a stand user can learn hamon

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unless it's a hamon-infused stand

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like joseph's

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@blazing tartan

blazing tartan
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Why ?

mighty trellis
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because

blazing tartan
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It seems odd

mighty trellis
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stands depend on their user's breathing

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a stand user cannot use 2 things at the same time

blazing tartan
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Hm

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Well that breathing rule seems to have disappeared after part 3

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But I guess Araki had his reasons

frosty ridge
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Speaking of rules that seemed to have disappeared after Part 3- did the whole "You can't see out of your own Stand's eyes" rule exist beyond Part 3? Because there's a lot of little moments that make no sense unless the user can see with the Stand. Even within part 3

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I'm thinking primarily of the Lovers, Jotaro using Star Platinum's heightened eyesight to find N'Doul, and RHCP in Part 4

calm solstice
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that wasnt really a stated rule

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I guess it just depends on the stand though

frosty ridge
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They make a big deal of that being a limitation of stands in early part 3, though. Ebony Devil exploited that weakness when he chained Polnareff under the bed, and the whole reason Joseph ran off to find a tv was so he could use Purple Hermitt so Kakyoin and Polnareff could see what their stands were doing in his brain. But I suppose it could be handwaved as only SOME stands can't share vision with their users

bright rain
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@frosty ridge Either theres a weird ass explaination, or araki forgot

twin laurel
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Didn't they say that only Silver Chariot had that weakness?

blazing tartan
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Yeah it sounded odd to me as well

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They did indeed

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Or Araki forgot about it most of the time

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I think Joseph gave a bs explanation about how he got his Stand thanks to Hamon

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But I should rewatch part 3 to make sure

smoky geode
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Star plat was disappearing because he was losing focus. Nothing to do with hamon

bright rain
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I mean

near starBOT
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@bright rain, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

bright rain
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That kind of stuff actually happens

ancient cosmos
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So

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I'm watching stardust

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And one thing I dont rlly like about it is how Joseph is coming off not rlly as smart as before

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I mean I like his role as the badass mentor everyone knows he is, but he was rlly fucking smart in part 2, he doesnt rlly deem that way rn

strong edge
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Well he's old

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He also halted most of his hamon training

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To live with his wife normally

severe root
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How come at the end of stardust crusaders jotoro and dio can fly

small garden
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It's a plothole

calm solstice
simple crown
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okie mod

uncut vault
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They arent flying

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They are jumping

orchid veldt
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yeah, if you read the manga, it doesn't seem like they're flying at all

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I've heard the idea that it just seems like they're flying since the jumps last for so long to fit so much dialogue

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sort of like how Dio's time stops seem longer than he says they are

trim lance
#

Damn Mariah thicc

uncut vault
#

mariah thot

plush star
wintry rampart
#

i havent finished 3, s idk, but without telling too much, can someone answer this?

#

did dio lose his laser-eyes/freeze abilities when he jumped bodies?

#

because

#

if he can still use lasers, knives are pointless

#

right?

strong edge
#

Or he's a cocky bastard

#

He believed his stand was truly the strongest, so that was all he thought he needed to win

wintry rampart
#

so he might have those powers, but he thought The World surpassed bothering to use them

ancient cosmos
#

OMG AVDOL IS ALIVE I CANT BELIEVE IT

#

I LOVE IT

#

I CANT BELIEVE HES ALIVE IM SO HAPPY

#

Also I can't believe they actually animated the nipples on polnaffes fake sister

#

I'm watching the dub for Matthew Mercer

#

I watched the part 2 dub for numbah 1

#

And I watched the part 1 dub simply cuz it was amazing

#

I still cant believe they voice acted licking

ancient cosmos
#

Idk I like dubbed dio

#

Mostly bcuz I can understand him

#

Hearing each person angrily yell DIOOOOOOO gives me life

#

He was good

#

Phantom blood is manly

#

Everyone is a bull made out of tires in jojo

#

I'm pretty sure they have a few extra abs

#

Wut

#

Also I have question

#

On the submarine Joseph was just running in place

#

....

#

Was that an animation error

#

Hes just running in place

#

Do u know what scene I'm talking about

#

I didnt know there was a movie

#

Also I believe so

#

I see

uncut vault
trim lance
#

Can someone explain me whats that "Kakyoin, did you laid this egg" thing?

small garden
#

There was this weird spin-off type thing where there was this egg, and inside was the son of Jotaro. To be honest I can't explain it, I'll link a wiki page

wanton turret
#

it's from the doujin made by Clamp featuring the crusaders

small garden
sullen thicket
#

Basically, non Canon, and kinda weird, but someone wrote a story where Kakyoin and Jotaro had a kid, Jouta. Personally didnโ€™t like it that much, but his stand had The best of both Worlds, Basically Time stop and the 20 meter emerald splash

near starBOT
#

@sullen thicket, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

sullen thicket
#

But how they chose to show the kids birth was with him from an egg

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And one of the things they said were โ€œKAKYOIN DID YOU LAY THIS EGG?โ€

trim lance
#

Lul

sullen thicket
#

So remember

small garden
#

@sullen thicket Nothing part 4 related should be in part 3 chat

sullen thicket
#

@small garden My bad, but it was admittedly something extremely minor

wanton turret
#

yeah dio mentions that if polnareff had pushed a bit more and deviate a bit to a side, he'd be a goner

#

as well as dio feeling weak after a direct punch to his head

uncut vault
#

they nerfed hamon soo bad in part 3

#

yes

#

but i mean if joseph like destroyed dio's arm with hamon would the world still have that hand

craggy lagoon
#

Dio showed no fear when joseph used hermit purple with hamon on him

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He would die instantly

#

So if joseph used hamon on the world dio would be dead?

trim lance
#

So... if Dio didn't used The World, could Young Joseph possibly be stronger than Dio (1st Form)?

languid stag
#

hes got the hamon but if you mean form 1 in SC id go for dio cause that swol Johnathan body

sullen thicket
#

Dio wasnโ€™t going to test it just to be on the safe side, but apparently Araki said that Harmon wouldnโ€™t affect The World, But Dio himself, due to Dio having Vampiric blood

languid stag
#

so if the world got hit it would be fine and he wouldn't , or if the world got hit nothing happens but if dio gets hit ded

sullen thicket
#

Yep, Harmon wouldnโ€™t affect it

#

Sadly

languid stag
#

more like gladly , DIO is a good villain , heck all jojo villains are amazing its hard to order them

uncut vault
#

they said in stardust crusaders that you can talk thru stands but can you from long distances i wonder?

small garden
#

KakyoinSad ๐Ÿฉ

uncut vault
#

cherry donuts

quiet night
#

jelly filled

simple crown
#

You truly are the lowest scum in history

#

We never had any intention of forgiving you

#

What you owe, cannot be paid in money

#

ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA

calm solstice
#

I thought you were attacking best girl foof lmao

simple crown
#

oof never

calm solstice
#

time to play catch

simple crown
#

catch?!

#

i wanna play

calm solstice
#

wait

#

I thought this was part 6 chat

#

Im confusing quotes

ancient cosmos
#

Villian: shoots jotaro, burns him, and buries him 20 ft under cement
Jotaro, somehow: oh good grief, give me a break you're pathetic

weak hearth
#

Jotaro is best JoJo tbh

hybrid geode
#

the power of his second stand,ใ€Œ P L O T A R M O R ใ€is invincible

#

but he's not that bad of a jojo

weak hearth
#

Yes, he is best JoJo

calm solstice
#

that aint plot armor thats just some books and some bullshit

proud cypress
#

magazine armor

hybrid geode
#

ah yes

weak hearth
#

Oh well...

#

ใ‚„ใ‚Œใ‚„ใ‚Œใ ใœใ€‚ใ€‚ใ€‚

calm solstice
#

@remote skiff thats kinda spoilers GWfroggyBlobThonk

remote skiff
#

hmmmmmmm

#

true

proud cypress
#

jotarosweat this but with kakyoin

hybrid geode
#

yes please

dire ledge
#

Am I the only one who thinks that it's awesome that Araki decided to make a tarot card for Cream

smoky geode
#

huh, i never knew that

full plaza
#

l love joot

calm solstice
#

thats for the video game

dire ledge
#

too bad I can't find a high-res version anywhere

cosmic rivet
#

Give me a bit and I can get you a hi res cream tarot card

wintry rampart
#

Lol

#

They already got God-awful mudas what more could they want?

#

There's literally no justification for the transition from "useless" in the Part 1 dub to "Muda" in the part 3 dub other than TW

smoky geode
#

moora moora moora

#

The
World

#

i guesss

wintry rampart
#

Yes

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

wintry rampart
#

TW = The World

#

I mean, if it's just the Stand cry that's "muda" I'm k

#

But the fact that he randomly yells "MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA" while throwing a knife at Joseph throws me off in the dub

#

It would've been easier for the actor to say "it's useless, useless, useless, USELESS!"

#

But, I digress

#

Don't @ me

#

Yeah

#

Alright gonna go eat some food

#

yEeTus

smoky geode
#

because thats the sound for vampires in japanese. in english, vampires and the undead don't have a specific sound

#

in english,
dogs go woof
cows go moo.
in japanese,
vampires go WRRYYYYYY

wintry rampart
#

Part 1 Dio > Part 3 DIO

#

Fight me

orchid veldt
#

Okay, fixing Part 3 is kind of a beast

#

Here's what you do

#

tone down Star Platinum's BS a little

#

have Avdol have more fights

#

have Kakyoin and Avdol have more substance as characters

#

give them more depth

wintry rampart
#

make Jotaro less OP
Give each side character actual bearing in battles
Make DIO less crazy and closer to part 1

orchid veldt
#

I was about to say

#

make DIO closer to his Part 1 version

#

HAVE TOWER OF GRAY NOT SUCK

wintry rampart
#

Then again, I consider Part 3 the "Araki trying popular methods" stage and it's half-decent as a standalone part

orchid veldt
#

Dark Blue Moon could be better, it's just a fish

wintry rampart
#

Yeah

orchid veldt
#

more Hol Horse please, it's required, but just more him overall would be nice

#

have Empress not look so fucking ugly

#

have Wheel of Fortune be more than just a car

#

we kind of just had Strength a few arcs back and it feels replayed already

wintry rampart
#

I've heard that Araki had planned to kill Avdol and make Hol Horse a Crusader but that could just be Araki's writing style

orchid veldt
#

Yeah, but he couldn't really do it

#

cause Hol Horse apparently killed Avdol

#

and his stand is kind of....OP

wintry rampart
#

I mean, Araki does write things as he goes, it seems

orchid veldt
#

I know the manga already did this well, but this more of a fix for the anime DON'T DEDICATE A FULL EPISODE TO THE SUN

#

YOU CAN USE HALF AN EPISODE FOR IT

#

AND USE THE NEXT HALF AND THE NEXT EPISODE OF DEATH 13

wintry rampart
#

What he does is slightly, if not extremely, different than the original plans entirely

#

Which is why there are like 500 plotholes in Part 3

orchid veldt
#

for the Bastet and Sethan fights

#

put Polnareff in Bastet

wintry rampart
#

Part 3 is the Plot Swiss Cheese of the series tbh

orchid veldt
#

and Joseph in Sethan

#

it's a significantly better set up

#

mostly cause we could get some cool younger Joseph fanservice with Sethan even if it's just towards the end

wintry rampart
#

Yeah

orchid veldt
#

also yeah, don't remove Kakyoin from half the part

#

it only hurts his character more

#

have Tenore Sax and Kenny G exist

#

for a reason

#

and yeah

#

now Part 3 is perfect

wintry rampart
#

Alright

ancient cosmos
#

Jojo is somehow the gayest ans straightest shit I've seen

#

I just saw the magnet episode

remote skiff
#

ah

orchid veldt
ancient cosmos
#

What the fuck is even this show

#

Hey there was a dog in the episode who I dont think died

#

There was a dog on a collar and the collar was being pulled, but we never saw nor heard the dog die nor did we see the collar on neither avdol nor joseph

#

Wouldnt be suprised if it was canon the dog died due to lack of oxygen

remote skiff
#

nah, dio randomly killed it while off screen

#

because of course he did

ancient cosmos
#

Probably

#

Omg is polnareff a kid

#

Hey theres another dog it just licked him

#

The next day: the dog gets hit by a car

#

Confirmed in an exclusive interview

ancient cosmos
#

My God jojo is such a badass

#

"Oh good grief"

ancient cosmos
#

This shit is the most tense game of poker

orchid veldt
#

Best game of Poker in anime

ancient cosmos
#

Aye kakyoins back

#

Hope he doesnt die

#

I thought polnareff was gonna die a few times

ancient cosmos
#

Holy shit did avdol just die

ancient cosmos
#

DID IGGY JUST DIE? well I mean hes a dog so yeah

#

did polnareff just die? God damn this show is crazy

ocean rover
#

Lmao these were basically my reactions as well

ancient cosmos
#

I can't handle this show

#

A game of fucking video game baseball, not even real baseball, tv characters playing baseball in a video game is making my stress skyrocket

ocean rover
#

Oh man youโ€™re in for such a treat

#

So many memes

ancient cosmos
#

I already know alot of the memes

#

I've made several

#

So....I get araki didnt wanna use hamon anymore, but Joseph uses it several times. Just to smooth the transition. But why doesnt Joseph use it on the vampires

#

Joseph is more well versed in hamon than Jonathan, and Jonathan was able to kick dios ass with even a little bit of hamon

wanton turret
#

there's only, like, 3 vampires in sdc

ancient cosmos
#

kakyoin is giving us backstory, he has a plan to stop dio, and theres this melancholy music playing
I have a bad feeling hes about to die

#

Kakyoin plz dont die

#

Badass music is playing. Hes talking to dio. Plz dont die plz dont die plz dont die

#

No.

#

God. Fucking. Damnit.

feral shadow
#

Dio really is the best character

ancient cosmos
#

Why. Kakyoin dont die. Plz dont die. Hes dying. Plz dont die

#

If kakyoin dies does that mean anyone can die

#

Why is everyone glowing

ancient cosmos
#

Jotaro: gets stabbed in the head
Also jotaro: oh good grief

hybrid geode
#

didn't know the durability stand stat transferred to the user

ancient cosmos
#

I really hope he beats the shit outta dio

near starBOT
#

@ancient cosmos, Your Gangstar cred is now level 7 !

ancient cosmos
#

Shut up

#

So I got a question. Jonathan cleaved dio in 2 and nothing. Jotaro punches dio in the head and its devastating. Why???

#

His head is the vampire part so like?

#

I dont get why he needs joestar blood? Why joestar blood specifically? Why does he need it to merge his head completely? How does that even affect his healing? What the hell

rocky swallow
#

iirc Dio said something about how his head hasn't fully integrated with Jonathan's body so he hasn't been able to unlock the full potential of his powers

#

In his logic, if he drank Joestar blood, it'll help him integrate with his Joestar body

#

Ideally it'd be Jonathan's blood but he's not around anymore so closest descendant

ancient cosmos
#

I see. Well just finished part 3

hybrid geode
#

yeah dio hasn't really mastered/fully unified with jonathan's body so he won't have some of the abilities from back when he was in his prime body in phantom blood

#

so some of the inSaNe regen wouldn't be as fast as they were before

#

also star platinum literally throws punches at the speed of light lmao

#

imagine a cannonball going straight to your head at the speed of light

uncut vault
#

part 3 dub is good to esspecially the overwatch refrence

#

"ITS HIGH NOON"

strong edge
#

Nah that would be a little cliche

#

I think the final blow was fine

round hull
#

if Jonathan had gotten hit by a stand arrow while he was alive, would it had been the world?

#

or is it because dio took his body that the world manifested

#

is it actually Jonathan's stand

calm solstice
#

johnathans stand had been shown to be that hermit purple DIO used in the beggining of part 3

quick kestrel
#

'Member when DIO was going to have every power

ocean rover
#

That wouldโ€™ve been bad

calm solstice
#

joseph just had to destroy the camera because he sucked

#

as he improved his stand he was able to do more like the TV reading

tired meadow
#

I um

#

Never realised that Polnareff never had any eyebrows

#

I guess he just has muscular brow muscles?

hybrid geode
#

wait what

#

he doesn't have eyebrows?

#

oh god he doesn't

wintry rampart
#

I always thought somethibg was missing

silk aspen
#

wait

#

so what happens if hol horse hands his gun to someone

#

๐Ÿค”

strong edge
#

They won't see it

#

Unless they are stando user

silk aspen
#

that's what i mean

#

if he gave it to someone that wasn't a stand user they could still feel it but not see it

#

and if he gave it to someone with a stand then

#

well either way

#

could they use emperor?

#

if hol horse let them

wanton turret
#

they probably couldn't, i feel like it's something like an activation requirement to have hol horse be the one to shoot

silk aspen
#

yeah cuz of the stand disc

wanton turret
#

plus hol can move the bullets around himself even if they use emperor to shoot hol he'd still be kinda okay

#

the stand what?

silk aspen
#

nvm

#

forgot the no spoilers rule

#

i mean those two words alone aren't a spoiler if you don't understand them so

#

my question's been answered, thank you @wanton turret

wanton turret
#

not exactly answered sine there is no answer but no probs

strong edge
#

Damn apparently according to the wiki timeline Jotaro defeats Dio like 2 minutes after Kakyoin dies

#

I call BS, even if all the monologues seem drawn out in the anime

wanton turret
#

i mean, if you take out all of the monologue and dialogues, it's kinda pretty much 2 minutes since most of the fighting was done in stopped-time

strong edge
#

I know but

#

What about all the conversation out of stopped time

#

Like between Joseph and Dio

patent willow
#

whatever happened to dioโ€™s last name

velvet mantle
#

he got rid of it cuz he hated his father

wanton turret
#

also probably araki's way of showing that this dio discard his last shred of human designation and instead opted for a title, the title of God(Dio is italian for God)

lethal fog
#

Do u need a last name when ur so stylin

#

Yall know that dio be off thw grid

#

Shreddin all his credit cards

wild snow
#

how come Joseph has hamon but is old in crusaders

#

i mean looks old

ocean rover
#

Didnโ€™t keep up with his training probably

near starBOT
#

@ocean rover, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !

ocean rover
#

I mean for a while he assumed his job was more or less done

wild snow
#

true

lethal fog
#

Plus hamon doesnt make you young forever

#

He had passed the bell curve of 50

prisma lichen
#

it slows down ur aging

#

AND FUCK ME

#

I SPILLED WATER

lethal fog
#

And lisa lisa and zepelli both also adhered strictly to Sendo

#

Its not just Hamon, its an entire lifestyle

#

Joseph was 69 in stardust crusaders

#

And he still looked really good for thatage

wanton turret
#

shouldn't lisalisa already be, like, 100 or smth in part 3

#

and i feel like you've already asked this

lethal fog
#

I dont think hamon and Sendo keeps you alive drastically longer than a normal person

#

It keeps you in better shape and appearance

#

How old was straizo in part 2

#

Because they say that after a certain point hamon stops being effective

calm solstice
#

so about 89

#

wait

#

75

#

wiki says 75

#

his 60s

#

late 50s

#

but with straizo the problem is that he didnt care for hamon too much

#

he only learned it to stop himself from aging

#

he got obsessed with staying young rather than focusing on hamon

#

so that could've made hamon less effctive

#

makes sense

#

also because he doesnt like training

#

and he only learned hamon for 2 months

#

^

lethal fog
#

I think straizo was a dedicated adherent

#

He probably went through a midlife crisis between parts 1 and 2

calm solstice
#

true

lethal fog
#

That training is so strict, its hard to think that nobody would notice his warped goals if he had ill intent

#

I mean

#

Sowing the seeds

wintry rampart
#

guys

#

There is a Hidden Footage of 60fps joj vs dio

wanton turret
calm solstice
#

actually

#

I dont htink thats a jojoke

#

unless you click play and something happens idk

#

I cant watch it at the moment

wanton turret
#

it's a jojoke, i clicked play

calm solstice
#

ah okay

#

Ill delete then

wanton turret
#

it's funny cuz in the vid the poorly dubbed jotaro was like "dio-sama we meet again" and i just died from that

wintry rampart
#

atleast watch it

wanton turret
#

hell'd freeze over first before i hear jotaro ever say "dio-sama"

weak hearth
#

ARU TSUZUKERU

#

CRUSADERS

ancient cosmos
#

Me: oh they wont kill avdol, theyve already "killed" him once
Me: a few moments later: well ok then

small garden
#

KakyoinSad ๐Ÿฉ

ornate merlin
#

I agree

patent willow
#

โ†™๏ธ This person was perfectly fine with Kakyoinโ€™s death.

craggy lagoon
calm solstice
#

I was perfectly fine with Kakyoin's death

small garden
#

I was spoiled with Kakyoin's death

orchid veldt
#

I was pretty much spoiled on all SC deaths

#

Except somebody IRL told me that Polnareff dies and I was so sad and then it just....didn't happen
And then I was happy
And mad at that person

small garden
#

to the people who spoil deaths in YouTube comment sections
Can you DON'T

orchid veldt
#

I really shouldn't have looked at the comments under Last Train Home

small garden
#

That's what I did GWqlabsKek

uncut vault
#

maybe the reason vannila ice killed two of the crusaders is because he became stronger with dio's blood

#

or his stand is just too op

wanton turret
#

his stand really is just too op

#

and he's a good user

#

the reason why he lost though is because of dio's blood giving him vampiric status

#

if he was still human, he coulda still won

#

and yeah more or less

#

vampiric regeneration and immortal for the price of being weak to sunlight

#

true

#

but i feel like if he stayed human, he wouldn't feel cocky and would actually be more careful of that one weakness of his to pop out his head

ancient cosmos
#

R we just gonna pretend ike Jonathan didnt full well split dio in half in pt 1, but getting punched in the head rlly hard almost killed him?

smoky geode
#

dio ๐Ÿ‘ was ๐Ÿ‘ not ๐Ÿ‘ a ๐Ÿ‘ full ๐Ÿ‘ vampire ๐Ÿ‘ in ๐Ÿ‘ part ๐Ÿ‘ 3

calm solstice
#

@wintry rampart memes belong in #manga-jojokes and on top of that I think that one was a liiitle nsfw

wintry rampart
#

How is that nsfw

#

You have not watch Jojo?

#

Lots of some questionable things happen from part 1-7

calm solstice
#

yeah but that doesnt mean we post pics of em outside of the nsfw chat

#

It just looked like aqua was trying to cover something

#

not warning for it though GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

wintry rampart
#

Hmmm I see, but it doesnโ€™t seem you guys have a nsfw chat channel and tbh itโ€™s not really nsfw unless you think showing a short skirt from a angle is big problem for you guys lol, but alrighty

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

calm solstice
#

We do have one, you jsut gotta ask a mod and say you're 18 to get in

#

18+*

wintry rampart
#

Ah I see

bold badger
#

Just realized something rewatching part 4

#

In the polnareff hol horse showdown, silver chariot takes off all it's armor

#

Silver chariot, almost the speed of light without armor, goes to slice the bullet or whatever

#

Hol Horse, a normal human being, is able to react to this in such high speeds

#

That the bullet that he controls

#

Moves around the sword of silver chariot, again going around light speed, in such precision

#

That it reacts inches away from the sword

#

Dodges it

#

Then moves back to the original path, still inches away from the sword

#

Hol Horse can react at near lightspeed confirmed

wanton turret
#

um, pol was pretty much just going at a single direction so hol probably already calculated in his head beforehand where, when, and how he'll maneuver the bullet

#

it's more or less the same case with the hanged man which moves at the speed of light was still hit by silver chariot because he knew the direction hanged man was travelling

#

and hol probably predicted silver chariot's speeds, or knew about it beforehand, considering pol was controlled by dio's cells before

bold badger
#

This seems way too precise for a prediction

#

Plus, this is all going at the speed of a bullet

#

So he still needs to react faster than a bullet moves for it to work

wanton turret
#

i'm pretty sure hol is exactly that, he's a good user and very precise too

#

another example would be the pipes during the hoingo arc, he could maneuver the multiple bullets with near perfect precision through turns and twists without any of them hitting the pipe

ancient cosmos
#

20๐Ÿ‘METER๐Ÿ‘EMERALD๐Ÿ‘SPLASH๐Ÿ‘

wanton turret
#

what

prisma lichen
#

HOW ABOUT 50 METER EMERALD SPLASH

ornate merlin
#

How about belongs in the trash

prisma lichen
#

alright

#

but what about 100 meter emerald splash?

hybrid geode
#

a bit too much right there

prisma lichen
#

ok ok

#

99

ornate merlin
#

1km emerald splash

prisma lichen
#

Perfect

ornate merlin
#

1AU emerald splash

hybrid geode
#

S T O P

#

dio's just

#

obliterated by then

#

his regen won't save him this time

wanton turret
#

won't dio, just, like, stop time and punch kak?

ancient cosmos
#

Kakyoins downfall was thinking emerald splash would actually work

#

Kakyoin we all love u buddy, but pls go home

wanton turret
#

lmao true tho

ornate merlin
#

No

wanton turret
#

i mean, he already shot dio with emerald splash before the 20-m version and dio still deflected it

unreal sage
#

but what if he forms a 1km hierophant barrier

tame plume
#

hol horse should have A in speed tbh

frosty ridge
#

On one hand, if Polnareff and Joseph didnโ€™t at least suspect Joingo was an imposter, they would be unfathomably dumb which... would not be too far fetched for those two

ornate merlin
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I think they knew and were messing with him

ancient cosmos
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I go on pornhub for memes and I am never dissapointed

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I typed in jojo and found kakyoins death

ornate merlin
ancient cosmos
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It was titled "young redhead gets fisted by young blond"

quiet night
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over 100 years old

ornate merlin
quiet night
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goddamn that should be almost illegal

soft grail
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Just remember, Kakyoin died on national donut day.

quiet night
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STOP ASKING IMPOSSIBLE QUESTIONS

ornate merlin
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No

soft grail
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If Kakyoin is a donut, than Polnareff is a baguette.

quiet night
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joseph is a cheeseburger

ancient cosmos
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Pornhub has alot of jojo clips

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They have every jojo op

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And the full episode of diu episode 1

ornate merlin
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Iโ€™m going to take your word on it

small garden
ancient cosmos
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Jeeze does pornhub have alot of jojo clips

small garden
wanton turret
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can you not talk about that site here?? seems kinda inappropriate

calm solstice
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@ancient cosmos yeah please dont bring up nsfw sites

junior perch
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No joke the Vanilla Ice dub fight is amazing

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He starts lisping in the middle to end

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To show off the fangs

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I love it

quiet night
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wait really?

junior perch
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Yeah

steady mulch
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That sounds like it'd be cringy

junior perch
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If you listen closely itโ€™s really cool

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Like I thought it was the VAโ€™s fault on accident

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But then Polnareff told him he was a vamp

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And it clicked

soft grail
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Props to Polnareff's VA in that fight. The emotion conveyed in the dialogue was perfect.

junior perch
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I forgot they called him Cool Ice

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But yeah both have solid performances

soft grail
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The only voices I expected to sound different was Older D'arby and Hol Horse.

junior perch
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Yeah Hol Horse sounds like he smoked for like 1000 years

soft grail
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I expected Older D'arby to sound more fancy and refined. Almost like a high class person.

junior perch
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He sounds like Shaft

tame plume
stone wren
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Go ahead mr joester @tame plume

tame plume
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Oh! Thats A Basebal!

stone wren
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Jager

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Rad dreigen

tame plume
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Serect Your Car

stone wren
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Nicesu nicesu veiry nice caesar chan

prisma lichen
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SHIIIIIIIIIIZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

stone wren
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Tsk tsk tsk, yes, i am

prisma lichen
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Hey Baby!

uncut vault
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anyone have the download for part 3 dub ? link on animekaizoku is dead

simple dagger
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I have a very young cousin and someone asked her who is her lover
She answered "Alessi"
GWfroggyMonkaCop
(I think she wanted to say "Alexis" but she was unable to spell it properly)

smoky geode
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are you sure she was always very young?

simple dagger
soft grail
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The real question is, would the Cracker Volley return?

smoky geode
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the absolute madman would pull them out of his ass the past

soft grail
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If only Alessi vs. Joseph happened.

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He used them against ACDC.

hexed basalt
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After all this time, just now i noticed that Jotaro's hat FUSED with his hair.

soft grail
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Araki just kept as a funny part of Jotaro's design. When I first saw it, I thought it was an animation error.

patent willow
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back then
people would burn the backs of hats
so their hair would partially go through

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i suspect that's what jotaro does

proud cypress
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i thought it was said somewhere that he ripped it

tired meadow
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I miss Kakyoin

soft grail
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Yeah pretty much. Same reason why it took him over a century to fully heal and use it.

worthy cedar
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What if kakyoin never came back with the group

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He would of never died

proud cypress
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and then they never figure out the worlds ability and they all die

worthy cedar
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but kak remains alive and continues the joestar bloodline

proud cypress
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jouta

worthy cedar
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nah jk

remote skiff
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JOUTA DID YOU LAY THIS EGG

worthy cedar
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actually they figure out dios ability right after they feel it so it wouldnt be much worry

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@proud cypress

proud cypress
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what

worthy cedar
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i mean

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when dio stops time they would of already knew that he stops time

proud cypress
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how though

worthy cedar
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well

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kak felt that dio stopped time for some reason

calm solstice
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its only because of kak they find out

remote skiff
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because he deflected the emerald splash

calm solstice
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kak relays it to joseph, who relays it to jotaro

worthy cedar
#

o h

calm solstice
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either kak dies or everyone else dies instead

proud cypress
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joseph was the only one there besides donut and hes not that much of a thinker so

worthy cedar
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what if avdol never came back from his "death" with hol horse

proud cypress
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pol and iggy would be fucked by ice

remote skiff
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then hol horse would join our crusading bois

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because we need a hol boi

calm solstice
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pol would have died to the genie stand

proud cypress
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i forgot about that one tbh

calm solstice
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and one of the 3 that fought d'arby would have to fight vanilla ice with iggy instead

remote skiff
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and then anubis wouldn't have happened

calm solstice
#

that way the team was even

proud cypress
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kakyoin was the smartest in the group

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iirc

opaque wind
#

Since Stands are introduced in part 3, I guess this is the appropriate place to talk about them.

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Has anyone created fan-stands?

vital kettle
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Yep

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Sometimes in the subreddit itself.

lone hatch
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Worst part

small garden
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ok

soft grail
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Every part is good in their own unique way.

calm solstice
#

whatever you say

tall basalt
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Stardust Crusaders is the best part

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Change my mind

lone hatch
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kakyoin, polnareff, and old joseph are the only reason that season 1 of stardust crusaders is slightly above the "average" threshold, change my mind

soft grail
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Polnareff was the true protagonist of part 3.

worthy cedar
#

the ova fixes that

patent willow
#

why does it seem like there are never any "normal" stand users
with the exception being part 4 and parts of part 7
but even then their role in the story doesn't make them seem like it

wanton turret
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depends on your definition of "normal"

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and probably because having a stand is more or less gonna trip up your life's perspective very much

strong edge
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I think he means stand users that don't give a shit and just live a normal life

calm solstice
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Well in part 3s scope we only saw thise that fought because the entire part was 1 long battle to get to dio