Idk
#stardust-crusaders
mild crown
void spire
who is to say they didnt
mild crown
I want to
void spire
couldve been an illegitimate marriage
gloomy hull
Caesar
more like
BUBBLES, BUBBLES, SO MANY FUCKING BUBBLES
void spire
literally after younger darby
rough sable
Or just somewhere in the desert
void spire
dont you mean Bubble Buddy
mild crown
That was part of it
rough sable
Soap Bubble Boy was good
mild crown
Every time I saw the bubbles
rough sable
Why hate bubbles
void spire
im not gonna lie the the Bloody Stream animation made me think someone was high making it
void spire
sometimes i call hamon, “breathing but better”
rough sable
So Italian
void spire
i once overthiught why its called stands thinking “but they can summon in while sitting so whys it called stands” then i gave up
gloomy hull
Too Deep A Question
void spire
lol
mild crown
It's a stand-in?
gloomy hull
H a
gloomy hull
Rip
void spire
rip
thin tree
Walk Like an Egyptian just started playing on the radio, my car has never been turnt nor manly
late arch
toki wa tomato
lilac oasis
So kakyoin is one of the most popular crusaders?
rough sequoia
Yes
fluid forge
The most popular crusader is Jotaro
But Kakyoin is a fan favorite along with Polnareff
full plaza
l love every one of them
full plaza
he's my least fave but l still love him deep down
rough sable
Same Scal
cedar kayak
I love them all equally except for kakyoin who I would give my liver for
desert pivot
[This is actually spoilers if you didn't watch the whole thing.]
Is Kakyoin actually dead? Because it showed everyone else's soul who died, even Iggy's, but not Kakyoin's.
eager sierra
gloomy hull
Yes
sonic fern
OAHHFSDIPFSDOJOJOAOHHHHHAH LOOKAFT AT HIMEMM, .G. .....
full plaza
look at that mouth
nocturne pulsar
Every character's mouth is like that though.
It looks so badly animated.
It's funny because it looks great in the English dub since in Engish dubs they reanimate the lip flaps to sync to what they're saying.
strong gale
Was the Stardust Crusaders manga that different from the previous two arcs to where they needed to completely change the animation to where everyone has doorbell shoulders and awful facial lines????
fluid forge
They're not the same lol
The latter of part 7 bleeds into part 8
But the beginning of 7 doesn't look like how the end does
Araki's art style changes not just between parts, but as the parts progress
nocturne pulsar
For the anime series, they're also doing that. Making an art style for each part (except 1 & 2 since they're in the same series), using character designs taken from the end on their manga arcs to keep consistent character designs.
There we go. That's a better explanation, that Miko gave.
desert pivot
nova sonnet
.> not really but he was definitely dumbed down
steady oak
He had to play the part of weird grandpa
rough sable
He had the same silly personality in part 2 tho
nova sonnet
he kicked ass in part 2 tho and he could outsmart people easily
not so much in part 3 :/
apart from empress he didn't really get to shine a lot
rough sable
Well it wasn't his place to shine, really
nova sonnet
yeah...
desert pivot
@nova sonnet I really can't see how he wasn't shat on. I mean you even said he got dumbed down.
Hermit Purple was the weakest stand!
nova sonnet
He wasn't really treated that bad
and yeah, he deserved a better stand
I still don't get why him and Jonathan have those useless purple vines
ffs
desert pivot
I really can't see how he wasn't shat on in any way.
desert pivot
Taiyō
太陽
fluid forge
They have those stands because that's what Hamon looks like as a stand
fluid forge
Not everyone needs to have stands that fight, you know
Utility can be just as important
rough sequoia
Like Rohan
nova sonnet
Joseph literally died against the guy he was supposed to take down
steady oak
There's quite a few in p6 that don't fight
rough sable
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
nova sonnet
Joseph didn't have enough raw power
rough sable
Also p8. One of the main characters has a cool-ass Stand which isn't combat-type
nova sonnet
hermit purple barely has any utility tho
steady oak
He can swing from tree to tree
hard acorn
apparently hermit purple first manifested in jospeh's fight with kars when his hand was somehow drawn towards the red stone of aja
rough sequoia
Hermit can show where a person is
nova sonnet
👀
steady oak
Breaking cameras is not useful
rough sable
He's super strong and vital
fluid forge
He only breaks stuff because he's not good at using it lol
rough sable
He's silly. He's always been silly. He's the same silly dude who introduced himself to the first Pillar Man he saw like a school girl.
steady oak
I'm sure he could just hit the button with his stand to take pictures, but whatever.
rough sable
LMAO how are we supposed to know the answer to that seriously
steady oak
Physically? Probably
nova sonnet
Jotaro looks tough as nails
steady oak
Joseph actually did training whereas Jotaro is just strong from bloodline and streetfights
nova sonnet
forgot to mention that I was specifically referring to ep 10 joseph
before undergoing any serious hamon training
rough sequoia
Yes I’d say
steady oak
Hmm.... I'd say par level then.
rough sable
It's difficult to say I mean this is all just a speculation, you're not gonna get a definitive answer
He was 2 years older than Jotaro at that time, but idk if that plays any role
steady oak
Not much. Erina would probably keep Joseph from doing bad things like fighting.
nova sonnet
B-but age in jojo is... 
steady oak
Whereas holly didn't have much of a leash on Jotaro and he did what he wanted
fluid forge
Joseph was a shithead but he rarely disobeyed Erina
steady oak
If anything, Jotaro might be slightly more combat skilled than Joseph, pre-hamon training.
fluid forge
If she told him to do something and he didn't want to do it, he'd probably whine but just do it
Jotaro was a little punk when he was a kid
rough sable
He had nobody to keep him in line
fluid forge
But a big difference is Jotaro never had a dad
rough sequoia
But Joseph does still has his predictions and tricks
fluid forge
While Joseph's dad was dead, Speedwagon probably filled in that paternal role quite often
rough sable
Jotaro is most likely just as perceptive, though. Joseph just voices it out loud
fluid forge
Jotaro literally had no father figure that we know of
nova sonnet
What about Joseph?
fluid forge
It fucks kids up when they grow up without a parent
nova sonnet
Oh yeah speedwagon
fluid forge
I just said Speedwagon lol
nova sonnet
yeah srry didn't notice
fluid forge
Like I'm not saying Speedwagon always acted like his dad though
nova sonnet
but speedwagon filled the gramps role
steady oak
The needwagon for speedwagon
fluid forge
But he still could have filled that spot in
Not necessarily?
I mean yeah Erina was Joseph's grandma, but she raised him from infancy
steady oak
Just having a male figure in his life made things better
nova sonnet
I can't believe that speedwagon didn't get to pass down his genes
rough sable
He was still a father figure of sorts and Erina was strict, too. Whereas Jotaro only had Holly. And we know what she was like.
fluid forge
She didn't have the heart to discipline him tbh
rough sable
Pretty sure Speedweed had his sperm frozen somewhere tbh
nova sonnet
An Englishman who used to live in the slums that then became one rich mofo
steady oak
I doubt that was a thing in 1920
nova sonnet
that's a 💯 husbando
fluid forge
The difference between Erina and Holly is the Erina was strict and Holly coddled
nova sonnet
also spinning hats
rough sable
Idk Speedwagon Foundation was pretty ahead of its time lmao
steady oak
Tru
nova sonnet
maybe they couldn't find anyone worth speedwagon's genes
fluid forge
Holly probably felt guilty that Jotaro's dad was never there
Because she married him and had a child with him and welp, he's gone basically all the time
steady oak
Sadao "I love my saxophone more than my son" Kujo
rough sable
He was all about that jazz
fluid forge
So I see her coddling him as a way to try and make up for the fact his dad wasn't ever there
steady oak
Fffffff
rough sequoia
Let’s be honest
nova sonnet
why is Jotaro so tough in the first place
rough sequoia
Would you leave ya kid for jazz
steady oak
Bloodline
rough sable
Because he's a Joestar
fluid forge
Except it didn't really help him at all, it just gave him the impression he could be a little shit and get away with it
nova sonnet
Jonathan is one cuddly man and Joseph is an outgoing machohead
fluid forge
But yeah, I more or less consider the cause of the reason as to why Jotaro is the way he is is because he never had that father figure
Joseph technically didn't have a dad either but he at least had Speedwagon
nova sonnet
We all need a speedwagon in our lives :^)
fluid forge
Joseph never seemed to have visited the family much when Jotaro was little, so he never could have acted as a father figure towards Jotaro
rough sequoia
I mean
fluid forge
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Joseph didn't visit at all within Jotaro being able to remember
nova sonnet
Joseph is the opposite of a father figure
fluid forge
He never expressed fear at getting on a plane, he only was fearful of being at the controls of it
rough sable
Joseph hated Japan
steady oak
Too American for that shit
rough sequoia
Yeah
steady oak
He did grow up during ww2
rough sequoia
AMERICA
steady oak
So I wouldn't be surprised
So the stigma from the war plus sadao leaving holly alone probably really pushed him over the edge
fluid forge
Definitely, yeah
rough sequoia
All his friends are dead
rough sable
Yup his dislike towards Japan and the Japanese is mainly explained to be the result of WW2
rough sequoia
Pushed Joseph to the edge
steady oak
Smokey was v important
nova sonnet
I always thought that the girl who took a liking to jotaro was his daughter lol
rough sequoia
He was
steady oak
Having smokey as a good friend during times where segregation was still a thing is good shit.
Araki did good on that one.
rough sequoia
Where is he in the other parts?
fluid forge
I wish Smokey had a bigger role though, but considering when the story takes place and when it was written, Araki did decent enough lol
full plaza
same
steady oak
Because SEGREGATION WAS STILL A THING
rough sequoia
Seriously
fluid forge
^
steady oak
And smokey did damn well for himself
fluid forge
Yeah segregation was a big deal back then
steady oak
A+character development
rough sable
Considering how short BT was and how little room the characters had to develop... Smokey was good.
steady oak
Smokey appreciation
fluid forge
Fuckin Plessy vs Ferguson
rough sequoia
Wens a novel or spin off for Smokey
steady oak
I can't believe someone needs to write a canon spin-off for smokey
hard acorn
NIGERUNDAYO SUMOKI
steady oak
you can write it. I believe in you.
rough sequoia
I’m HORRIBLE, at writing stories
I used to do some stuff for school, and I don’t even wanna look back at it
hard acorn
don't worry, i'm shit at writing too
near starBOT
@hard acorn, you just advanced to level 3 !
hard acorn
yay
rough sable
It would require a LOT of research into the US history of that time
fluid forge
Yeah
fluid forge
Understanding the Plessy vs Ferguson cases and then knowing how things went before Brown vs Board occurred
hard acorn
you'd need to work out who else was running and what smokey could have done to win against them
fluid forge
Not to mention the sheer amount of racism he would have dealt with just for even trying to run for governor
hard acorn
Smokey Brown: Make America Great Again
fluid forge
God no
rough sequoia
Stop
hard acorn
maybe Hope would be better
steady oak
He would have the backing of the speed wagon foundation though
hard acorn
yeah
steady oak
So that would be crucial in his campaign
fluid forge
Yeah
hard acorn
they could probably rig an election if jojo asked to do something nice for his bud
steady oak
I doubt smokey would allow that though
rough sequoia
Yeah
hard acorn
wait, shouldn't we be in battle tendancy?
rough sequoia
Winning fair and square is best
hard acorn
this isn't very part 3
steady oak
We were talking about sdc it's fine
hard acorn
k
I guess yeah, it was after part 2 when smokey won
maybe even during the 80s
or 70s
fluid forge
Not during the 80s?
hard acorn
could be during the 80s
fluid forge
He probably won around the 50s or 60s
hard acorn
yeah
fluid forge
He looked like he was in his 30s or something
rough sequoia
Pretty buff tho
hard acorn
so probably 60s
actually that would make even more sense because it was during the civil rights movement
steady oak
At the end of the story it is explained that Smokey saved enough money for college, where he studied political science. He would later become the first African-American mayor of his home town in the state of Georgia.
hard acorn
he would have that on his side
steady oak
During the events of the High Priestess story arc, a flyer for a charity peace concert that Suzi Q is attending displays a picture of Smokey, now mayor of New York City, as a sponsor of the event.
Yeah
Oops
rough sequoia
Close enough
steady oak
I thought he was higher office
hard acorn
well considering it was the 60s...
steady oak
There would still be social stigma
rough sable
That's a spoiler
fluid forge
It is, technically
rough sequoia
Smokey wouldn’t be afraid right
fluid forge
Deleted it
rough sequoia
Since he ran away with Joseph twice
fluid forge
I mean
steady oak
After being in the presence of Kars, I doubt he'd be afraid of racist people
fluid forge
He was a normal human with no Hamon, face to face with a vampire and then later a pillar man
Also, he'd probably still he scared of racist people even after Kars
Racists still killed people back then
fluid forge
He'd probably just think they were all major idiots for discriminating based off skin color when he'd seen a literal Ultimate Being in the flesh
Said Ultimate Being loathed humanity by the very nature of them being human
But Pillar Men were a different species entirely, the gap is so much wider
rough sequoia
Mind If I post a picture of adult Smokey
fluid forge
Sure, go for it
hard acorn
why not?
rough sequoia
fluid forge
SMOKEYYYYYY
woeful sleet
good man
hard acorn
yeah he looks like 40 ish
rough sable
WHat a man
hard acorn
or mid 30s
fluid forge
We don't know how old he was in Part 2 but I'd say around 15
Maybe 14
Probably no older than 16
hard acorn
we're not forgetting Josuke was 15 and fucking ripped
rough sequoia
I’d say 14
hard acorn
I could agree with 14
fluid forge
If he was 15 and became a mayor by 40, that would have happened in the early 60s
So that would have been after Brown vs Board
hard acorn
that's like the middle of the civil rights movement so that fits pretty well
fluid forge
Which would have increased his odds a lot because of what was happening in those years
hard acorn
yeah
full plaza
l don't know anything
fluid forge
Have you heard of Plessy vs Ferguson?
@KQ I mean
If you've heard the phrase "separate but equal," that's the case where the phrase came from
It was basically ruled in the 1880s that other minorities were separate from whites, but still "equal" (except they weren't treated equally)
Brown vs Board overruled that case in the 50s, basically stating it was unconstitutional to segregate people based off the color of their skin, because it didn't make them equal. You can't be separate and equal, that's not how it works
rough sequoia
I haven’t history in a while
fluid forge
Smokey's odds of becoming a mayor would have risen astronomically just after the Brown vs Board trial
Though it would still be hard to do
rough sequoia
Was that one girl who did the bus thing in that year?
fluid forge
But the Civil Rights movement started in the mid 50s, so things were already making headway
Yes
Rosa Parks, I think?
rough sequoia
That’s her name
fluid forge
She refused to give up her seat to a white man on a boss
full plaza
oh yes!
fluid forge
I believe she was arrested for it
rough sequoia
She was
fluid forge
That's not the only thing that sparked the Civil Rights movement but it was definitely a major event that lead to it
rough sequoia
The people who sat and ate at the whites only seats
fluid forge
Yeah
Her arrest lead to a boycott by African American citizens
The uhh
Montgomery boycott I think?
Bus boycott
I forget how many people participated in it but it was a lot
Like well over 10 thousand people
But yeah, regarding Smokey, not only would his odds at becoming mayor during the movement have been a lot higher, it would have also strengthen the resolve of the movement too
It's pretty interesting to think about tbh
rough sequoia
It is
desert pivot
Isn't this discussion supposed to be talking about Part 3 and under?
rough sequoia
Yes
desert pivot
Cause you kind of went off topic.
rough sequoia
It was about Smokey being a mayor
desert pivot
But then it led to Rosa Parks.
rough sable
Not exactly, it was a mention of what the times were like when Smokey ran for a mayor, so it's related
fluid forge
Can't talk about stories set in the real world without talking about history sometimes though
desert pivot
talkin about history in the stardust crusaders section. But, it's ok because it says you could do that in the rules.
desert pivot
yeh.
fluid forge
Yes, but it's not an issue talking about it here
I was talking about history because we were talking about Smoke becoming a mayor
And mainly, the challenges he would have faced, knowing what happened in history during those years
rough sequoia
I wonder how Young Joseph would use hermit purple if he had it then, after Kars.
void spire
he did, we just didnt see it
rough sequoia
No but how would he use it
void spire
its the “your next line” trick I believe
rough sequoia
Yeah, but if Joseph got his stand before dio, how would he use it on people or to benefit him self
void spire
knowing Joseph, before beating Straizo, he mightve used it to get away w stuff
rough sable
Perfect the running away technique
near cosmos
*Strategic Retreat
nova sonnet
*NIGERUNDAYO
wintry rampart
if joseph uses hamon then why did he get older
ancient rivet
He stopped his training
He felt as if there was no need to use it due to no imposing threat
full plaza
he should have kept it grr
rough sable
You get older even with Hamon though
It doesn't stop your aging, only slows it down. One of the reasons why Straizo wanted to become a vampire in the previous part
ancient rivet
Oh right yeah I totally forgot about that part. I mean the fact he looked like SW at the age of like 150+ (if my guessing is correct) is pretty impressive
rough sable
Yeah and also kinda creepy tbh
ancient rivet
How is it creepy exactly?
open valley
You have a 150 year old man looking 20
Well tbf in that case wolverine should be creepy 
rough sable
It was mainly creepy because Straizo was kinda creepy lol
lethal fog
Well, joseph was like 69 in part 3
Without training in hamon or anything he still aged like fine wine
late arch
But what if
All the fights up to joseph saying that dios stand secret is to stop time
what if we didnt see dios POV
until jotaro learns how to stop time
you would see kak getting blasted
and only a few seconds of stopped time in jotaro vs dio
foggy quarry
rotund gazelle
That would be terrifying and hella cool
peak plume
I dont get it
Youd see the replay of kak getting punched after jotaro learns to stop time?
wanton turret
He means that we only get to see the earth in time stop form when jotaro learns it
wanton turret
Cuz dio would actually seem like he's teleporting instead of time stopping which actually makes more sense put into action
Kinda like that time when he got behind hol horse or in the OVA where he's holding a knife then he's gone and the knife just drops
It adds a sense of the unknown I guess
peak plume
So we'd see kakyoins death as dio teleporting to punch him?
near starBOT
@peak plume, you just advanced to level 5 !
wanton turret
Yeah more or less
peak plume
Gotcha
late arch
it would make dio seem even more terrifying
like when he runs to put polnareff down the stairs
because its a real let down seeing dio run up to kakyoin and punch
but seeing it from josephs perspective would b spooky
hazy hamlet
If you had a tiny clone of DIO, would you torture him?
tacit meteor
if we only saw stopped time from jotaro's perspective then we wouldn't see the part where jotaro uses a magnet to mess with dio
rough sable
OMG a pocket DIO
Cute
scenic fable
Don't let him out of the cage or he'll throw toy knives at you and try to throw a toy steamroller at you.
rough sable
No I will let him bite shitty people we will be a great team
scenic fable
high pitched chipmunk wryyyyyy
rough sable
CUTE OMG AAAAA
I'll buy him brand doll clothes so he can look fabulous even when tiny
scenic fable
I'd keep him on my arm like a parrot and pet him like an evil villain petting a cat
full plaza
me
void spire
do any of you guys just think whenever Joseph uses Hermit Purple, its more that HP gives me a series of logical correct choices, and Joseph just picks which option to use?
mild furnace
(plot convineince)
void spire
intruiging opinions
ancient rivet
The fact he's able to get it spot on most of the time I guess just proves how smart he really is. I mean the stand is a manifestation of its user and we all know how tactical that boi is
mild furnace
I mean empress is a good fight
void spire
ya like tar empress?
mild furnace
I guess
ancient rivet
I don't think there is any other empress
void spire
i forgot the coma
grim fern
tidal nexus
ora ora ora
sweet aspen
uwu
fiery saffron
You know kakyoin could've lived if he used his puppet powers
Could've easily beat dio
fiery saffron
He did
He admitted it
So harsh, but I guess the ending wouldn't have been as interesting
fiery saffron
The puppet powers could've been expanded on my alot and even linked to jotaro's free will in The World, but because arak forgot, we missed out on such a thing
boreal surge
Curse you Araki and your short term memory
near starBOT
@boreal surge, you just advanced to level 1 !
fiery saffron
supple steppe
lyric swallow
nice
supple steppe
Yare yare
worthy finch
dawa
scarlet heath
Nani?!
wanton turret
christmas puns? more like Fist of the NorthStar Platinum
gloomy hull
wanton turret
you know what i want? i want araki to revisit the tarot stands but instead of using the Rider-Waite naming style, the most commonly used one, he'd use the Thoth Tarot naming style, i.e. The Magician = The Magus, Strength = Lust, Judgement = The Aeon, The World = The Universe, etc.
okay i lie, i just want to hear dio's voice actor say 'The Universe'
lilac oasis
Why did dio die?
He survived getting his head cut in half before
And straizo reconstructed after literally being blown to bits
void spire
and since stands are like a manifestation of the soul, having that destroyed would take regen a while to kick in
lilac oasis
The world has been destroyed before
gloomy hull
Also cause Dio had Jonathan's body with Jonathan being a Hamon user and sucking more blood out of Joseph who was also a Hamon user his healing probs slowed down
void spire
not really, since apparently he became super dio after giving joseph's corpse the good succ
lilac oasis
Joseph wasn't that much of a hamon user anymore
void spire
his left regen'd became normal SOMEHOW SINCE THE HAMON STILL FLOWS WITHIN JOSEPH
lilac oasis
And besides dios healing seemed better than before
Actually I don't know anymore
His hole in his stomach healed so well it even fixed his clothing
That was super fast healing
Why was dio in Egypt again?
void pebble
Because he lowkey is scared of water
void pebble
Im not sure if he actually is scared of water im just guessing
void spire
maybe because he found enyaba there?
void pebble
Also that
lilac oasis
Did dio have a roses stand?
wanton turret
which roses? holly's roses or joseph's rose stem-like vines?
rough sable
He has a form of Hermit Purple thanks to the Joestar blood/Jonathan's body
boreal surge
I read somewhere that Araki was going to have the world turn into any known stand to him, but then later changed it because Jotaro would've needed a bigger ass pull
lilac oasis
Is that even possible
boreal surge
"Since our stands are alike DIO, star platinum can also be any stand I want it to, and allows me to instantly learn all of the things you did while you were practicing in the next 5 minutes"
novel raft
yes
lilac oasis
I thought it would have been better if star platinum and za warudo had the same tarot card
But jotaro saw the star as a joestar symbol
While dio saw it as being above the world
cunning jolt
end of discussion; still looks like worst jojo
scenic fable
HOW DARE YOU
young inlet
THAT DOENST MAKE GRAMMATICAL SENSE
rough sable
I prefer young Joseph tbh
rugged jackal
We all do
young inlet
Yeah but old Joseph is still a good boi
ruby sand
How dare you old joseph is best boy
mossy lintel
Joseph is always best boi
mossy lintel
@scarlet heath yeh
cunning jolt
joseph is bad all around
scenic fable
How dare you
young inlet
Ding dong your opinion is wrong
young inlet
False
rough sable
Scafe being rude again
rough sable
You're bad
rough sable
He's such a good boy full of love
cunning jolt
f a l se
scarlet heath
No
rough sable
Scafe stop
cunning jolt
why
rough sable
Because you're not making sense
cunning jolt
i am making ton of sense.
rough sable
Calling Joseph bad makes no sense
scenic fable
Scafe is just jealous that Joseph is my cousin
cunning jolt
nah because that'd be a weird form of incest
open valley
Incest is wierd in general what are you talking aboot
topaz dagger
so - what about Kakyoin's paintbrush thing? @prisma tapir
prisma tapir
wut do u think kakyoin was doing
i should probs rewatch it
but was it just a visual thing and it was actually hierophant
topaz dagger
no idea tbh,,,, araki completely forgot about it and there was,, no explanation
ngl it was probably hierophant but he wanted to be Extra™
him : swipes paintbrush
hierophant in the bg : sLASHES JOTARO
open valley
It was never really explained as far as I know
But tbf, the name has Bizarre in it after all
So it's maybe to make us go like "what"
vocal steeple
So would this be the right place to drop in a fandub link to a part of Jotaro vs Dio?
rough sequoia
I’d say in media
vocal steeple
Thanks
wintry rampart
jojo becomes deaf
gloomy hull
L U L
odd fiber
no
he died from his stand use
remember?
the "yup all my friends are dead" Polnareff moment
gloomy hull
Oh yeah
odd fiber
I'm here to give the hardcore fans a sob fest
gloomy hull
It's hard to make me cry so good luck on that
odd fiber
ONTO DIU SERVER
supple steppe
Seeing Kakyoin makes me feel like I have a hole in my chest
scarlet heath
stop that
supple steppe
Ok sorry
pure void
woeful sleet
ok
cedar kayak
Araki explain
gloomy hull
novel coyote
He’s beautiful
cedar kayak
Well
I mean yeah. It's kakyoin he's always beautiful
But
Fae what are you typing there
cedar kayak
Are you in awe
cedar kayak
I want everyone to remember this mess
novel coyote
Wasn’t that his first appearance
rough sequoia
Yes
rough sable
He was supposed to be a girl anyway
cedar kayak
How did kakyoin go from that to the beautiful and perfect man we have today
The beautiful and perfect and gorgeous and adonis-like man we have today
God I love Kakyoin
rough sable
He deserved so much better
I'm thankful to the fandom though. The Kak love is ever present
cunning jolt
Kakyoin is the best.
cedar kayak
You damn right he is.
void pebble
Was Kakyoin in egypt when he met DIO and if so why wwas he there?
rough sable
Vacationing
void pebble
DIO really loved his new body he was always checking it out in the mirror
rough sable
Well it had belonged to his beloved Jonathan
void pebble
Hol Horse not joining the SC was suprising to me
ruby sand
He was supposed to
void pebble
What happened?
ruby sand
He was supposed to replace Avdol after he died in India but Araki brought Avdol back instead
void pebble
Avdol was pretty popular back then makes sense
ruby sand
Yeah
wanton turret
Also because araki thought it would be bad to have two comedic members in the team, I think
boreal surge
It was an issue of balance, as Hol Horse didn't fit in the team very well, but Araki did mention that he really liked Hol Horse
void pebble
Did hol horse die I forgot what happened to him?
rough sequoia
No
boreal surge
Nah, he was sent to the hospital
rough sequoia
^
thorn roost
He sired a son in Italy. And that sons name is guido mista
boreal surge
I was really hoping for a cameo or mention of him in part 5 or 6, but I doubted it would happen
boreal surge
Yeah
scarlet heath
can we talk about what would happen if Jonathan has a stand
which probably would be The World
or in other terms
ZA WARUDO
boreal surge
he would be a god
supple steppe
Wich if we can believe Meti, it is OP on it's own right
scarlet heath
yeah
woeful sleet
it would be hermit purple
cunning jolt
And because of that he grabbed a stando
woeful sleet
araki said it
scarlet heath
shut u
supple steppe
No u
woeful sleet
youre the purple one here scafe
scarlet heath
damn
cunning jolt
And im a hermit fuckcckkkkkk
scarlet heath
get fukt
woeful sleet
HHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA
scarlet heath
so are stands a part of mind? not body?
supple steppe
Oof
scarlet heath
ALSO
cunning jolt
spirital enegi
boreal surge
spirit
near starBOT
@boreal surge, you just advanced to level 6 !
boreal surge
so dios is the world
boreal surge
we will never know Johnathan's stnad
cunning jolt
god imagine if starplatinum had hamon
boreal surge
I think that it was just a aztec bodybuilder
woeful sleet
it would be hermit purple then
supple steppe
Hermit purple II according to Araki
cunning jolt
IF STAR PLATINUM HAD HAMN IT WOULDN'T BE HERMIT PURPLE
HP HAD MORE RANGE AND WAS FUCKING VINES AND SHIZZ
STAR PLATINUM HAS PUNCH PUNCH
woeful sleet
hamon
supple steppe
Hamn
woeful sleet
is hermit purple variant
cunning jolt
HAM
woeful sleet
my mom calls me ham
cunning jolt
i AM A HAM
woeful sleet
or han
woeful sleet
my mom just calls me ham and cheese
cunning jolt
why
scarlet heath
I meant star platinum is a rendition of a Jonathan
like
he's a spirit of him
not saying he is him
south grove
I doubt it’s him because SP is all about self preservation like catching the bullet and johnathan would save other people instead of self preservation tbh
Maybe i’m talking out me ass but
rough sable
Splat is just Splat
scarlet heath
aight
chrome shard
always thought star platinum looked a bit like a pillar men
near starBOT
@chrome shard, you just advanced to level 1 !
scarlet heath
it was just a common thing i heard about
wintry rampart
star platinum is a pillar man since they are the same type of stand
mild pulsar
wintry rampart
joseph is a vampire now too
void pebble
"Itll be lonely without you"
scarlet heath
Yeah supposedly he's didn't get vampire blood but just his own blood.
bright rain
How
Maybe he did get vampire blood
But Joseph was so awesome that he could still go out in sunlight
Also related to possible past exposure to the red stone of aja?
final dragon
is it just me or whenever is see polnareff all i can think of is that his face is just a mask hiding even more hair
wintry rampart
𝕐𝔸ℝ𝔼 𝕐𝔸ℝ𝔼 𝔻𝔸𝕊𝔼
final dragon
yes
near starBOT
@final dragon, you just advanced to level 1 !
scarlet heath
I always think of how much shit his hair has is in it
like
hairspray
mousse
gel
subtle ginkgo
its a concrete pillar
rough sequoia
Wasn’t it in the mirror dude episode
rough sequoia
¯_(ツ)_/¯
scarlet heath
all I remember is that some hairs were sticking out and he was like "wtf dude"
and combed it back
I don't remember the specific episode lmao
48 episodes
final dragon
his hair is just made of gel
final dragon
we must find out what the hell polnareff's hair is made of
subtle ginkgo
wasn't it originally blond?
scarlet heath
hair is made of dead skin cells
subtle ginkgo
or am i just mixing up CLAMP
scarlet heath
SOMEONE DONE WITH ALL PARTS LOOK UP POL IN THE WIKIA
pls
I just started part 4
delete
that's a spoiler thanks
subtle ginkgo
honestly parts 1-4 were spoiled for me
from jojokes to just me not being careful on the wikia
scarlet heath
I was spoiled on part 3 :)
because I was in vc in this server before it was a bit more regulated
subtle ginkgo
a man whose name begins with the letters J and O, and his very long trip that is classified as an adventure, and that adventure is not very normal
scarlet heath
I muted most of the channels purely because of spoilers
scarlet heath
don't tell others the endings
subtle ginkgo
i wont
scarlet heath
unless they already know them
subtle ginkgo
trust me
its not pleasant basically knowing the whole thing without even seeing an episode
near starBOT
@subtle ginkgo, you just advanced to level 1 !
subtle ginkgo
w O w
scarlet heath
no
final dragon
subtle ginkgo
how many times did he even use it?
cunning jolt
Guys
final dragon
ye
cunning jolt
Take jojokes to jojokes
cunning jolt
It's not hard.
subtle ginkgo
doesnt Kakyoin's stand have some possession thing?
final dragon
yea but he only uses it once
cunning jolt
Technically used it in the Death 13 fight
subtle ginkgo
twice
final dragon
really?
subtle ginkgo
thats.....really not taking advantage of his stand
cunning jolt
Okay but kak didn't have an "attack" stand. His stand was more of just helping than dealing with everyone
final dragon
i would think is stand is better at laying traps
cunning jolt
Like hermit purple, Both didnt have most stand alone combat power but they work together
subtle ginkgo
yeah i feel like he uses it more as a utility than a fighting thing
final dragon
hey do they ever bring up what the sun stand actually is
like
is it like centerfold
with mirrors
or is it a separate thing
final dragon
no but the stand itself
scarlet heath
it was literally a sun
final dragon
k
scarlet heath
cunning jolt
Bad stand
final dragon
gotta love the emperor stand's stats
cunning jolt
Still e god damnit entire equine
final dragon
final dragon
well then we have to find out what exactly is about the sun that kills dio
final dragon
so like
wintry rampart
thus why it kills vamps
final dragon
wait
wintry rampart
so since the user most likely doesnt know hamon
final dragon
doesn't uv-rays stop the pillar me
wintry rampart
so does this mean the sun stand could kill DIO?
final dragon
but uv lights stop the pillar men
scarlet heath
which is why jojo and friends were gonna die
final dragon
so
final dragon
we don't know for sure
cause we never see a live pillar man have uv shown on them
gtg
scarlet heath
but Sun(the stand) i'm pretty sure just produced heat. Because they never showed that they had a sun burn or anything significant to say that it also produced UV rays
rough sequoia
Maybe that’s the only reason dio took him
scarlet heath
the UV rays are was kills the Vampires/DIO
rough sequoia
Since he’s so shit using his stand
scarlet heath
yeah
I mean
I don't know why he didn't stand further away
his stand has a fucking 100 meter range
wintry rampart
what suprises me is that the crusaders didnt bring it up
scarlet heath
I'm sure Sun(the stand) was just filler lol
rough sequoia
It’s more Joseph didn’t bring it up
subtle ginkgo
the actual sun tho
wintry rampart
wanna be sun
scarlet heath
what year was stardust crusaders placed in?
subtle ginkgo
like centerfold but with paper
final dragon
isn't there a stand ability in part 4 that acts like that
subtle ginkgo
yeah
halcyon shadow
woeful sleet
Guys
subtle ginkgo
what?
woeful sleet
Why you do this is sdc chat
subtle ginkgo
honestly i have half these channels muted so i forgot of their existence
woeful sleet
You egg
final dragon
who's an egghead, eggface
woeful sleet
I'm crying laughing at this
My boyfriend explaining jojo to coworkers
While at work
scarlet heath
they should just watch it
final dragon
what the fuck are you talking about man are they in a new movie or somthing
why is vanilla ice being beheaded
who is this jojo guy what
scarlet heath
it's like trying to explain homestuck
mossy oracle
What is this nonsense?
wintry rampart
Accurate though
rich totem
is he trying to get them to read it?
final dragon
do you ever think that the god in the jojo universe just hates dogs and any that actually live are just there so they can reproduce and create more dogs for the god to kill
wanton turret
killing dogs while making donuts
final dragon
yes
final dragon
someone needs to make some art of stardust crusaders but it's where in the world is carmen sandiego
boreal surge
delet
final dragon
aw
novel raft
Where in the world is DIO Brando?
final dragon
we need this
novel raft
I used to love that show tbqh
final dragon
i used to see it all the time on cds of old shows
wintry rampart
i also wondered how Kakyoin did the paint thing with Jotaro
scarlet heath
we discussed this before
we think it was his stand being sneaky and just cutting his leg to be edgy
subtle ginkgo
kool i was not wrong
cunning jolt
#manga-jojokes please.
boreal surge
but that cake aint no joke
cunning jolt
Okay but it's still a jojokes
subtle ginkgo
OUI OUI OUI
tight acorn
@scarlet heath stand proud ?
tight acorn
yeah stand proud
tight acorn
well i am drunk on great days which is part 4's 2nd op
well if u finished it yeah part 3 is good
personally my favorite
tacit meteor
you forgot chase entirely
void pebble
Because its bad