#jojolion
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Tooru doesn’t like getting hurt right? So he stays in the backround and lets someone else do the work for him, like rock bugs
Lmfao
Don’t get me wrong I love him as a character and I love his stand it’s just I could not see him taking on Josuke and his final attack
Exactly. He’s a complete PUSSY but hes efficient in the distributive sector of the rokakaka trade
tbf ranged stands are ranged for a reason
YEA YEA. YEEA MAKE IT RANGED
Maybe?
It is ranged
The way I see it is that JoJolion has two primary antagonists, Damo and Tooru. They both lead the villain faction for their respective halves of the part
Do you prefer Wonder of You without the coat or with the coat
With
WoU is one of the best stands in jojo, no doubt about that
Wonder of U is dripped the fuck out
Scary old man robot gots a damn scarf on
literally no better Stand
nothing competes
with
Yeah but without you can see the blades on his arms
d4c looks sick as well tho
i fw the non coat one the armblades on it looked cool
Who gives a shit about blades
our blades they're broken
Kars,Dio,Pucci, Diego, and Anubis
made the same joke twice
thrice*
hmmm and still no laughs

okay?
is that supposed to be like a jokey roast or are you being rude simply because we have differing opinions?
I like to be rude sometimes
I prefer being rude
booohoo someone doesn't like my opinion
He is being rude simply because you two have differing opinions, it's kinda his whole thing
me!! that's me!!
no I just like being rude some time
looking for
The wonder of drip
cool
I'm not crying or anything? I'm totally fine with liking different things
Guys his name is no longer the wonder of you
I not
It’s now The wonder of drip
Drip of U
tooru is bad objectively! submit to us or die!!!!!!
Give in
Maybe I was wrong you’re not greedy
Tooru best villain
YOUR BATSHIT INSANE
look at this mf
You make me want to cry
that is (in my opinion) kind of cruel
But I do respect YOUR opinion
look at this mf
LOOK AT THE MF. honestly i remembered him being more spring like
ya know shit like coils
My least favorite Stand above my favorite
my idea for wou is...interesting but i don't wanna give up the suit
i can't live without suit wou
What's there to dislike about The Sun
oh no, the ozone
It's the Sun
it's lazered
(vitamin d burns us)
on it
I need wonder of you wearing the supreme drip
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Imagine The Sun fused with Wonder of U though. Dripped out scary robot but also on fire
this part ranting makes me want to be angry at part 5 again but i already did that like a million times
his face would be the sun. looks cool to me
Wait wasn’t there a boat in part seven called blue Hawaii
you mean part 8 with the zombies
no
yes
There is a boat called Blue Lagoon and in Part 8 there is a Stand called Blue Hawaii
I was getting the two confused
and Doloimte's ideal world is called Blue Lagoon or something
Blue Lagoon is the name of the arc
in Part 8
oh but i liked blue lagoon better for a stand ffs
have any personal theories about jojolion
I feel kind of sad for Dolo
dolo dies of chicken overdose
yeah that it sucks
He had a good life before he started dating A blind woman

I feel like vitamin C would’ve been the perfect stand for something like part six
im pretty sure the go beyond bubbles can only hit shit under the calamites aura or similar
Some weird theory
it didn't fuckin kill norisuke but it did kill rai after he touched wou
The calamity aura
literally went right through him and didn't harm him at all other then the lingering of the doctors power
selective attack or som
however, as stated by the doc, whatever he touches
Who makes these Part 7 and Part 8 rotations?
thats stupid don't counter my theories like that you monster
I don’t know
these nuts

Gifs
its not stated by josuke but this manga's filled to the brim with inconsistencys so i can't do anything about that ;-;
but lemme finish
as stated by the doctor
what he touches is under the calamities aura
like he did by touching the locacaca things
this is the all-star battler
Star world
and when josukke crushed it with his foot he suffered calamity
best design
so and so you get the idea
but thats weird as fuck
Who is the Jobro of part 8
Yasuho
Wait what
Daiya 
Not the blind sex offender
She tried to get Josuke in the sack forcefully
Bro had his fucking memories stolen and turned into chess pieces
She manipulated him
He had 1 memory stolen
And she did nothing of the sort. He didn't have feelings for Yasuho, so he came onto her
He didn't have to do that
Man with four Balls poked her with pp

Four balls four balls 🙂
Does he have four individual ball sacks or does he have two in each sack
He has 4 in one sack
He has double the nut power
tachyon its 2022 why are you still caping for this mid ass character 😭

what Daiya did was essentially like roofying
It was not like that
... do you have reading comprehension issues? Daiya is the creepy one here.
Rebuttal?
She used her baby toy stand to essentially try to manipulate Josuke into the sack with her
A 16 year old coming onto a week-old is kind of shady.
She didn't take the memory for the sole purpose of getting him to like her lol
Damn she’s also 16 you pedophile
Where I live, it's legal 🙂
DoHoo
Where the fuck do you live Italy?
hope daiya sees those bro

And I'm also pretty sure that there are places in the USA with 16
Thanks. I appreciate that
in my state the age of consent is 16 but its not a concrete rule + it doesnt make it any better its still weird
Daiya does not need stans
Unfortunately for you, I exist 🙂
due to some shitty ass laws called romeo and juliet laws, consenting 18 year olds can have sex with consenting 15
its a 3 year difference as long as theres consent
great law!!!
america!! 🇺🇸
I don’t like the Romeo and Juliet laws
i dont think anyone does
I mean American politicians being corrupt is one thing but being able to have sex with somebody who is three years younger than you is another thing
Why are you defending Daiya on this issue? At least defend her for something else, like "she's a prog fan so all her crimes mean nothing" or some excuse like that.
I’m sorry when did I ask
broooo she was tryna get with him while he was under her stands effects
cant believe shrek is main character
he was under the influence !! (of her stand)
Daiya absolutely gaslighted him.
Literally not rape

If it wasn’t consensual it was rape
It was very consensual
she was sexually harassing him and was going to attempt to yknow
What you smoking
Better question is what the fuck are you smoking
bro she aint real she aint gonna thank u for defending her 😭
He. Came. On. To. Her. He wanted it. He literally couldn't resist her.
It’s called the effects of California king bed
It makes you super horny??????
"he couldnt resist her" 🤯
answered your own damn question
now fuck off
No it manipulates you
😐
Where is it listed that her stand makes her irresistible?
Never said it made her irresistible all we said was that it manipulated him
Because he found her so hot. Christ
It cannot manipulate people. You are once again incorrect
I think taking people‘s memories and abilities counts as manipulation
She didn't take his memory for the sole purpose of getting with him 😐

Will you stop Simping over a fucking 16-year-old girl you make president valentine look like an upstanding citizen
I'm not simping. I just find your astoundingly incorrect perception of her actions to be incredibly annoying
He found her cute. Your point?
What the fuck ya’ll arguing about 😂
Sir you are making Jared from Subway look like a good guy
Aight
man...
"ah yes i will lay down naked in front of this amnesiac under the influence of my stand in order to manipulate him into having sex with me"
he is LITERALLY SWEATING
Literally already debunked everything wrong with that sentence already
bro dont even know whats going on
Your point?
Your point?
Bro just was found in the fucking ground and this girl says “I wonder if he’s good in the sack”
tsurugi 🤝 joshu 🤝 daiya
being predators
If you think she's a predator, you need to get laid lmfao
Mhm
yeah by someone whos using their stand on me while im also an amnesiac because apparently thats normal to you
I didn't say taking his memory was morally just
"guys the roofie isnt important he found her attractive therefore its ok"
I bet this man looks up to Jared the subway guy
You're literally a buffoon. He would find her attractive regardless
Shut the fuck up R. Kelly
Funny
Your actions are unexcusable
Ha
doesnt mean he would fuck the child when he wasnt under the influence calm down

You’re the type of guy he would probably make up an excuse on how Valentine did nothing wrong to Lucy steel
Your jokes keep getting funnier
@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 10 !
yes
Stop posting random ass scans
No
That don't prove anything
Yes it does
it proves josuke wasnt jumping head first into bed screaming AWOOOGA for the 16 year old
He literally did do that 😂
she is the one who wanted to have sex with the amnesiac
oh my gooood
Cope
“just because I drugged her doesn’t mean it wasn’t consensual”
Josuke wanted her cute ass. Cope

No drugs or drug equivalents involved. Cope
????
California king bed
You are the white crayon of society
Rebuttal?
That’s also from the wiki
Another piece of non proof
Damn that do be what he look like
@quick token, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !
What's that 
A pregnant man
she literally took Yasuho from his memory BECAUSE she was the only other woman in his life
bro is keyboard warrioring for a fictional 16 year old who tried to rape a man 
She asked if she was cute. Josuke was like "hot damn, you're cute as FUCK". Total manipulation.

No. She wanted to feel closer to Josuke by having a memory of his
Rebuttal?
That's manipulation
"be closer to josuke"
bro beats it to the california king bed arc
You are a overly obese fat man typing on your computer about how your lovely little 16-year-old wifey is getting Called a sex offender by a bunch of random people on the Internet
Manipulating him into existing as someone that she feels close to 😐 yep. Makes total sense
That's separate from the memory taking
So you admit the memory thing is real
The memory taking was used to make him closer, and so have sex 
That's a lot of memes
We are not stopping until this man gives up
No. She takes the memories of everyone in the family so that she feels closer to them 😐 she then decided that she wanted him. He then decided that he wanted her.
We have enough drive in us to bully this man into submission
Not gonna happen. I'm the most stubborn person in the whole server lol
largest*
Good one
This man really has a thing for blind sex offenders
Well the man has a barcode haircut
wtf goin on in here
bitchless behavior
obese man defends daiya
He wasn't fully himself: no memory + a stand taking some of the few memories he had left. He was obv brainwashed
It's crazy how I'm skinnier than all of you

That one gets funnier every time
So that's not consentual to me

........
Why is Hato normal and not a sex offender creep like her two younger siblings?

If you unironically think amnesia is brainwashing, your mental gymnastics deserve a gold medal
hato grew up without the motherless behavior
If you were defending Dalmo I would be fine with that hell if you were defending every time a dog died in Jojo I could be OK but you’re defending the blind sex offender so please shut the fuck up
No she used that fact to lead him into what she wanted
if you think losing your memories is losing your memories
guys stop arguing with him these types cant be reasoned with 💀
It's not brainwashing, it's gaslighting.
She's not a sex offender though. That's the issue
She didn't
She used her body
If you try to force yourself on somebody else that makes you a sex offender in my book
removing his memories is removing his ability to fully understand what hes agreeing to
Explain in detail. I'm pretty sure Josuke straight up just found her cute and decided to go for it
dawg
I would say that’s a mental roofie
@timber crow, Your Stand Rank is now level 13 !
That didn't happen at all
WHAT DO YOU MEANM
Yes, I'm sure the existence of Yasuho makes a difference to the act of having sex
He knew what he was agreeing to lmfao
bruh she was forcing herself onto him
He literally got ontop of her by himself
This is some big fatherless energy I’m getting from this man
are you stupid
we're all jojo fans so
This man makes Jared the subway man look like a good citizen
thats not the point
true
It literally is

bruh he didnt
He literally says it
he literlaly stopped after that
DID MAN JUST SAY "CURIOUS"
He stopped because she got up
BRUH HE REALLY JUST SAID "CURIOUS"
HAHAHAHA
BEN SHAPIRO HEADASS
Lol
Let’s just say hypothetically here that you are mentally deficient
And yet, no rebuttal
Curious
You ignore more shit than CNN
i cant tell if hes trolling at this point
I literally responded to everything you said
You make the United States judicial system look uncorrupted
incorrectly
I provided a reasonable rebuttal that you couldn't disprove
"you cant fuck children! its not okay!"
this guy:
No he would be going after pink hair Koichi
i mean he does have a valentine/d4c pfp


do i dare check his message history in #steel-ball-run mentioning lucy
It would be almost heartwarming if the two horny creeps in the family stood up for each other to help gaslight and manipulative their respective targets
🥰
Turns out most of it is me defending her from creepish behaviour or joking about Mountain Tim
Oh and calling her a great character
Hoes mad that Daiya didn't try to rape anybody
Sad
Thank God
Thank you jesus
Thank you, somebody out there.
It's crazy how Josuke forgave her and they're like siblings now, yet y'all wanna act like she did something horrendous to him
And it's also crazy how willing you guys are to ignore Josuke getting up ontop of her on purpose
That was a ploy to get her in his shadow
His thoughts say otherwise
"I need them cheeks bruh 😩"
Nah but I'm pretty sure he said something like "damn she's cute" or something
But that requires me to load up a website for it :(
Then go do it
It wasn't a ploy though
He didn't expect his bubble
Regardless, none of this is forceful at all. She even tells him he has to be the one to say it and make the decision. Smh
"you have to consent while under the influence babe"
"Under the influence"

point and laugh
At the person with no well thought out reasonings or rebuttals? Sure
we've already done it
You didn't
I finished jojolion today and now I don't know what to do with my life 
Read the novels
Watch Jojolion Music Leimotifs on YouTube
Go back and compare and contrast our boy with a certain someone in Part 4 for fun.
xForts Josuke vs Josuke video
That's not who I meant in Part 4.
I’m just gonna say it now part 8 villian > part 4 villian
hell nah
sorry but midru < Woshikage Wira
got the best gifs fr
This may be the worst take I’ve ever seen
Straight up
🙏 💯 🗣️
I refuse to believe somebody thinks Tooru is better than DiU Kira
prob talkin about jobin
I refuse to believe someone thinks Tooru is better than any villain at all
I think he's better than Kars but that's just me (I'm not a fan of part 2)
Other than that, yeah, not better than anyone
He’s not better than Kars but
Being better than Kars isn't really much of an accomplishment because everybody's better than Kars but I still agree, 10/10.
thank you for this
Np
You know he's right
Hey does anyone have a video of wonder of u. Like to our saying his name or something?
YouTube it
It’s all fan made stuff anyway
Dude has only been a character the last like two years. Hasn’t been in any games or nun yet
there's no tooru voice actor
we might get one in ASBR
""might""
Definite
three
that would be pog
ok
using "using - in -"in 2022 💀
Using these nuts in 2022
fr
Poggers
Average green coping
tooru is better than rohan
What does this say I have everyone in this server blocked
based
W
Mid server
Bozo’s mid adventure
🙏

definitely not yasuhoe
i'd say Kaato
she looks younger than all of the family

yeah thicc
also mitsuba with the new nose
😩
I wonder what his move set will be like.
i think WoU is gonna be an off field stand
we've never seen him attacking
L
damo is an icon bro
I think the other characters would have to look at Wonder Of U’s back and maybe the can be damaged.
so its gonna be either an off field stand or a defense one
cheap trick moment

True😅
you can't kill mista by shooting

neither josuke nor jotaro
they also can stop a bullet

If Wonder Of U was real, we’d all be in grave danger.
in their own parts ofc
That is a smart idea
would it be similar to the infinite nail 
Does Tooru look like a teenager?
Does that include Soft & Wet?
yes ofc
King Crimson’s true user is Todd Howard
Any bews
random calamities
I think that could be true
Wouldn’t ASBR make a good eSports?
no bews 
from the manga 
yeah i guess
depending on the new mechanics sure
current ASB kinda sucks competitively
We know that Trish and Prosciutto will be in ASBR.
your mother sucks competitively
hopefully joshu too
itd be cool if joshu and tooru get in
You know who else sucks competitively?
Your mother
My mom! (Joke inspired from Regular Show)
Lol good one

Isn't Tooru already confirmed
Nope
Nope
Please please please
Tell me you didn’t get this information
From that one YouTube video
when do u guys think part 9 news will be released
in this year
or next
i reckon April 1st, August 19, and January 10 2023 will be interesting days for jojo
i’ll come back to this message in a year
i hope
I didn't get it from that one YouTube video, I got it from an even less reliable source
This server's members
You’re high
Oh good heavens
i am going to suck you competitively
Very soon
one of the best songs in jojolion 
Could Whitesnake steal D4C?
Tooru is outer
Why wouldn't he be able to
I know WS cannot steal WoU due to calamity.
But if Pucci was against the President, I wonder how he's going to steal D4C?
He wont
Sneak Attack
Without love train
So the only way it could happen without Love Train, is if Whitesnake disguised itself as someone close to the president and took the stand disc but the problem is the way stands work in the new universe
Also
So like an illusion?
Kars solos jojos
yeah like for example how Whitesnake disguised itself as weather that one time
It's like the interrogation room where WS created an illusion there.
Kars doesn't have a stand, but if he was still alive he would always win.
Except Tooru.
He would slam tooru
And giorno
And gappy
And all of those
I have scans
Ill make a gc
Ill show you guys
mf about to use Jorge Joestar as proof
Not jorge
Tooru can use WoU to launch a rocket that is strong enough to send him flying.
Canon kars
Ill make a gc
That can send him flying.
you mean all main antagonists?
Na
Tooru shits on him
Kira beats him
He’s not touching Valentine or Pucci
Could argue the same for Dio and Diavolo just on the basis of them having nigh invincible stands but meh
They stalemate or eventually die
Wonder of U literally claps him
Yeah
Fr
He’s talking about the ultimate life form version
with his ultimate lifeform tooru stalemates
I know
Tooru still stomps him
But he’s unkillable
If we were talking non ulf, then every villain besides p1 dio beats him
He’s dead
not dead just frozen
he can't die
the only way to actually kill him is lava
Braindead=dead
So he can die 🗿
yea but he can shield
He’s not unkillable. He can be killed by extreme shit
And if he hadn’t shielded?
Based af
They don’t deserve one
Surprised there’s not at least an esidisi cry emote or ulf kars one
jars
Giorno has like 4, so I don't think it's about deserving or not
The emotes in this server are dogshit
tf even is this
Some are good
No

We have like 300 that are the same emotion
i swear lava can’t kill him either?
didnt he shield himself to protect from it
yeah exactly
exactly
Hypothetically if for some reason the shield didn't work then yeah sure
i don’t get why people say ‘oh but he would’ve died without it’ because he still had it
Because it means he can be killed
how
if he can shield himself from lava
nothing on earth can kill him that was the point in him being the ultimate life form
I can push a gun away from my head. That doesn’t mean I can’t be shot to death
this is a bad analogy
Wonder of U can be defeated if it didn't have it's ability !
^
If there was no calamity he'd die easy!
Elaborate
And that’s ironic bc this is a bad analogy
Through an analogy
Kars can be killed by lava except only when he no longer is able to use his powers for whatever reason
Trueeee, remove his ability and what is he? An elder, those are easy to beat
His powers which make him unkillable
Dio wouldn't be immortal if he wasn't a vampire
it's just a logical fallacy
He can use his cane as a weapon
for kars, kars physically can’t die to lava because his shielding is part of his body and something he can do
for the example you gave, of course you can push the gun away but can still be killable by a gun, but what you’ve done isn’t flawlessly perfect and can easily go wrong
The entire point of the word “can” is to express a possibility
The Hand can beat any stand if his right palm is inside the user head at the start of the fight
If he would’ve died without his shield(and he almost did), then he can die
jotaro would’ve died died to dio without star platinum’s time stop ability
conclusion: jotaro can lose to dio
He is literally already dead so this is pointless.
Wow a stick, u know what kind of people use sticks as weapons? Kids! And those are easy to punch too
this is a losing argument I admit defeat
Yes he CAN be killed but like he also can't be killed
we are both right
but yea the possibility is there
he can be killed without his shield but he still has his shield
No way
Don't act like I've never done that before
he can be killed but has something that can easily prevent that
It's a silly debate
He can theoretically be killed yes
but he can't be killed because he has weapons and powers to prevent it
it won't happen but theoretically it's possible
But like It's also theoretically possible that i slam my fist through a table and it phases through it, but I can't do that
Why can't you
No that's why he shouldn't, im asking why he can't
Because there's like a one in six hundred and seventy trillion percent chance that the atoms in my hand fly by the atoms in the table and make no contact
Actually even though that is a huge number, the actual chance of that happening is infinitesimally bigger
So you would just phase through the table, interesting
Truth
I take all my scientific facts from the Flash
I hate it so much I am so pissed there is going to be a ninth season
Glad it's the last
I see what you did there
Whats the discussion rn
flash show being mid
Cock
i’m probably going to refrain from saying anything relating to nsfw
because
thin ice
Maybe just don't get Thin Ice Henry
also flash is good i swear?
why didn’t i think of that?!!!!!
idk Henry seems kinda obvious to me
Joshu is hot
Do you think if I scanned his hair I can get a discount on gas
with discount that’ll be $5038 sir
Dammit

jojolion is better than sbr 😎 😎 😎
Both your opinions are trash
L
ima send pizza to ur house and not pay for it
i wont tip my fedora to u fr
I haven’t read this part yet but I’m excited for when I get to it because gappy looks sick
stone ocean is as well
bews?
i love both 

SBR is my favorite for Gyro but Stone Ocean and JoJolion are my other two favorites
Parts get better over time like mold
Hmm
I know a guy that can scale tooru and gappy to outer 💀
Any bews
Hi
So I haven't actually read part 8, as I've only read up to Steel Ball Run(really not interested idk why) but I'm curious. Why does it not feel as appealing? Like, I never hear anybody talking about it's "main villain", or anything compared to the likes of 1-7
Thanks greeny
Don't care about spoilers either. I'll forget em' by the time I give Part 8 a chance lol
I’m sorry you feel that way
It was the opposite for me
The lack of context of anything about the part is what made me the most excited to read it
It was also the part I had the least amount of spoilers on going in
Really? I find that wherever I look, the other parts villians are FAR more popular and well known.
That has to be for a reason right?
There is a reason yes lol
Same here
The actual main antagonist doesn’t show up until 80 chapters in
The reason is that Part 8’s main villain shows up really far in.
He’s not alluded to, hinted at, or foreshadowed at all before his appearance
People like to argue if he is or not, but he shows up in the villains portion of the Jojo magazine
I personally think he’s the weakest, character wise, in the entire series
I knew about Valentine far before I had read Part 7.
Also if that's the case, who the hell is the antagonist for the first 79* chapters lol. Are they atleast teased or no
His stand though is my favorite in the series
So he is obviously the main villain
The antagonistic force is the same
The leader just isn’t revealed until late
There’s one big group of villains and two small factions
So it's like Dio in part 3, but not built up whatsoever and done horribly?
I feel the fighting henchmen or whatever trope could get old but it doesn't with jojo
The part is evenly split in two where the heroes go against both
Because each fight is so vastly unique
Correct
No, no, the antagonist shows up after about 80-something chapters.
Jojo has a way to make the small bad guys that the mc fights to lead up to the main antag very interesting
Because of their stands/abilities
It never gets old
The small bad guy fights in Jojolion are very good.
The main villain in Part 8 is my least favorite in the series because he's a lot of wasted potential. But the great thing about Part 8 is that because he isn't even in it for very long, you can't categorize the entire part based on its villain like you can in the other parts
Damn. That's crazy. Are there actual stakes if the main antagonist isn't actually revealed until that far in then? Unless it's like Ceasar, I can't see the point in worrying about a character if you know they're gonna make it to the villian alive (80 chapters down the road)
there are plenty of smaller villains that carry for the majority of it
Josuke is really a intimidating character if you piss him off
For the majority of the time the part doesn't need a main villain
I personally don't like how he was implemented in
Most people as it was releasing didn't feel like the part needed one at all
The story is about breaking a curse after all
To put it plainly
The story isn't about taking down one guy, as most jojo parts are, it's about a lot more
So sorta in the way of Part 4 where there isn't really a "threat" until halfway+ through the part?
It's about saving people, breaking curses, and stopping a group
No
The threat is there from the beginning
Because without all those little bad guys, there is no growth
it's just the leader that isn't revealed
No gain in experience with using the stand/hamon/whatever
The only part it's really comparable to is Part 5 I guess because the heroes fight against the mob the entire time but don't actually meet Diavolo until a ways in
It's the same here except we don't hear from the leader until way late
If they went straight to the main villain without any proper fighting with said abilities then they would lose
In this case the heroes fight against the villain group just without a clear head
They don't know their full capability because they haven't used their abilities
It's not as bad as it sounds, because like I said, this part does not loose anything without a villain figurehead
Plus it would be like really short
Most people who read it the first time didn't feel like it needed one after a while
When he finally gets revealed it's very shallow
I'm surprised you haven't heard of him, and I won't spoil you though
Because for the longest time one of the most common questions about Part 8 was "is there a main villain yet?"
which is a very narrow minded way of thinking
the story can be good without a main villain
and it is
Part 1 was good, you think Jonathan defeats Dio at first but then he comes back, he learns hamon and gets ready to face him again before he realizes he isn't exactly ready, he hasn't properly used it in a fight yet
Ah. That's kinda wack. Why would you say that Tooru isn't as popular as any other villian? I guess it's cause he only really appeared in like 2018 while all the others had like years upon years to be fleshed out and discovered by fans?
Because he isn't a good villain
People do like him but I think he's not as popular because he just isn't that good of a character
His Stand on the other hand
Is probably my favorite in the entire series
WoU is amazing
And they kind of act as different entities too
Though what does it have to do with time exactly
Nothing
lol
another narrow minded way of looking at the series
jojo fans love looking at patterns and trying to keep them
not every part follows the same skeleton model as Part 3
I feel like that can be true in most stories OTHER than Jojo. Some of the best things about Jojo are the antagonists
I mean it kinda does until part 7
Read Part 8 and it is plainly obvious that it does not need a main villain really
There are several characters who are WAY better than Tooru and are only secondary antagonists at best
Each main antag had something to do with time until Valentine had the universe changing and tooru, calamity
One of my favorite characters in the entire series I feel like should have been the main villain and not Tooru
||But he gets done dirty||
Yeah again, not all the patterns have to match
||the spray can incident||
Jojo without it's villians isn't nearly as good though. That's a fact. Obviously you can have parts without it, but the "over-arching" or looming threat makes up for some of the best Jojo stories lol
I didn't say that JoJo can work without it's villains
I said Part 8 does
Jojo doesn't need villains if it has a good enough story, not every manga needs to have fighting to make it work
You don’t have to have a “main villain” that connects everything bro
Part 8 is unique in that way in that it doesn't need a main villain
it functions just fine without it
it was my favorite part way before Tooru is introduced
The way part 8 is fleshed out, part 8 could very well be a tame and normal ish story
The rock humans in general are the main villains
It's about a man who has no idea who he is and is trying to figure it out
I think the reason you are so put off of reading it is because it seems so different from the other parts and you don't like the change in formula.
Trust me, it is a benefit
But in the end josuke realizes, he isn't one person or another, he is himself
Yes
The story is so much more complex than just "good versus evil"
It's fantastic
Greeny who gave you a personality change
What?
||But he also feels connected to Holly, calling her mom and everything||
Yep
I’m joking now I go do stuff
In terms of Jojo, why remove one of the best parts though? Part 8 sounds like it works without a villian in the same sense as 1-6 before introducing Tooru until that late in, but do you think that should be the same thing for JojoLands? It's the only part that's really done it
You sound too hung up on the fact that JoJo can't function without a main villain
that is a negative
JoJo shouldn't always be the same thing every single part
It would make Araki a shitty writer if every part followed the same formula
Josuke may not know who he is, but now he's able to make his own memories, be his own person without trying to live up to be the person that he is partially made up of, at first he thinks ||that he is josefumi||
I hope Araki tells a good story in Part 9, I don't hope he continues trends he started 35 years ago just for the satisfaction of his fans
I have faith in his abilities, I don't expect him to do anything in particular to tell a good story
You have a very single minded way of thinking if you honestly believe that a good story cannot be told without there being some main antagonist
Araki can tell a good story any day of the week
haven't read it yet
I won't send anything since I doubt you wanna be spoiled
Not hung up really lol. But it's objective it's been one of the best parts about Jojo. You can have a "main villian" without it being like every other part. Pucci is a prime example. He felt like so much more of a threat compared to almost any other villian because we didn't know what could happen until the very end. I trust Araki too. The thing is Jojolion took like 10 years to finish and the Tooru was nowhere nearly as impactful as any other villian because he was done dirty. Once Part 9 starts (in the next year or two I'm assuming), I'll probably read Jojolion
@cold totem, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !
But it's getting translated to English slowly
First of all no
Part 9 will be out within the next few months at worst
Second, why wait so long to start Part 8?
I feel like we've given you enough to think about in terms of what it means to make a good JoJo part, and you are clearly hung up on the villain thing because that is what's deterring you from reading
I had seen that too. I was pretty confused ngl. Didn't realize for some reason that the rest of the Universe was completely unaffected by Pucci. I had always just assumed the entire Universe was reset.
You misunderstand the universe reset too lol
Already reading a few other manga rn. Don't wanna start another rn lmao
The steel ball verse is not due to the universe reset, it's just another universe, probably
not probably
it just is
It's not connected to the first six parts in any way shape or form
not through time nor space
I had thought that the Universe was reset. In reality it was just everything Pucci had affected that was reset including himself being erased from existence. Araki didn't really explain it in depth tbh lol
What does it being "reset" mean to you




