jojolion

[brave geyser]

jobin fits in with the previous two villains tooru fits in with the previous one

[tame plover]

But now this guy is down there with xforts

[fluid mango]

I forgor

[crisp vigil]

Jojodoss my beloved

[wispy lion]

Found SP Req

[fluid mango]

Valentine and Pucci?

[brave geyser]

mintsky top tier

[brave geyser]

yeah

[minor ore]

how would the universe accelerate in reverse, what, time reverse?

[brave geyser]

jobin believed what he was doing was right

just like valentine and pucci

[fluid mango]

I like how it's called speed King but has nothing to do with speed

[brave geyser]

tooru was a pedophile

[crisp vigil]

part 8 woah

[brave geyser]

just like valentine

[tame plover]

He describes it, star platinum would be holding 2 blue glass glowy globes (like the earth) in each hand

[wispy lion]

opening up photoshop

[fluid mango]

Which makes Jobin even better

[tame plover]

So he is holding 2 planet earths that are blue and glassy

[fluid mango]

I.e. he's not a pedo

[tame plover]

constantly

[tame plover]

👏

[minor ore]

basically just clipart of the earth, copy it, make it a lil transparent and add a glowing effect maybe add a tiny white circle or sparkle to make it more authentic

[rugged stream]

oh hell nah, no 1 in the world?

gtfo

[tame plover]

So yea star plat requiem absorbs energy, stand abilities and can extend his time stop

Fair and balanced

And with a creattive design

[brave geyser]

what does he mean by energy

[tame plover]

Like

energy

Not electricity

Like living energy

[rugged stream]

control time acceleration ig?

I'm going off what he's currently saying

[minor ore]

every stand made by kaleb ia/x forts: star platinum but hes wearing [...], his ability is like whitesnake but he can [...]

[tame plover]

bassicly

[rugged stream]

wait

he can absorb other stand powers within his range lmao

that's the "energy" thing

hell nah

KaLeb no

[brave geyser]

why didn't he just make it infinite range

[tame plover]

Would be too overpowerd

[rugged stream]

he's trying way too hard to make it make sense lol

[wispy lion]

this is the only thing I could’ve thought of

[tame plover]

Beautiful

[brave geyser]

amazing

[wispy lion]

real sp req

[minor ore]

smh i shed a tear there

[tame plover]

Star platinum requiem ladies and gentleman

[wispy lion]

the true legendary stand

[tame plover]

no no no, no no no no

no

no

1 hour 20

no

Oceaniz I semi like you

[brave geyser]

depends on where in regular show they're from

[rugged stream]

oh man
I remember when I used to cope for Part 5 so hard man

[wispy lion]

one hour long

[tame plover]

I'll ignore that video for my sake

[rugged stream]

1hr and 14mins of Part 5 copium

[tame plover]

I'll keep a good idea of him

[crisp vigil]

Ahhh no youtubers have a different opinion that makes them bad

https://tenor.com/view/excited-gamer-gif-13862831

[tame plover]

Well it's more the fact that they spread misinformation..

[tame plover]

With mad copium

[crisp vigil]

I need copium

[fluid mango]

Eat a rokakak

[tame plover]

@minor ore It's a joke bruhv, he literally ends up deciding he is a rock human

He makes joking videos

You said you wanted someone entertaining

@minor ore

Watch the fricking videos

[minor ore]

i didnt mean like that

[tame plover]

https://tenor.com/view/potato-kira-yoshikage-kira-intense-jojo-gif-17273956

[minor ore]

but a person that doesnt make pure shite vids

[tame plover]

You said someone that is entertaining

That's the best you got lmao

[odd nebula]

Face reveal

[alpine trench]

Thanks for sharing, I will now dislike it

Not that it matters

[spiral walrus]

joshu is the goat

[manic lark]

nuttiest underwear ever

[mystic finch]

[minor ore]

Joshu cheeks

Zamn

[thin torrent]

wtf

[spiral walrus]

ikr

[thin torrent]

araki was like when making this: ''people will enjoy this for sure!''

[spark cave]

It is called Fan service for a reason

[thin torrent]

the reason is the people like this?

[spark cave]

Could you please re-phrase that

[thin torrent]

uhm..

[analog skiff]

I just reread dragon's dream

And man the calamities in that arc were so damn cool

Compared to how basic they were for the most part of "oh object does more damage" in WoU

[spark cave]

you have the perfect name

[analog skiff]

But like, comparing the rube goldberg shit from dragon's dream to how basic the calamities are for the most part in WoU

I'm kinda sad about that

[spark cave]

WOU calamities work like a Rube as well

[analog skiff]

Yeah but not as cool

[spark cave]

what do you mean not as wait hold on

Hello yes what's that people with a flag in their PFP are not allowed to have an Opiono Ok thanks

[analog skiff]

Well, my point is

For example, in WoU most of the time it's just something simple like an airplane panel falling off and aiming towards yasuho, or Jobin punching the bed thinking WoU is in there only for the spray can in there to pop and a part inside to pierce a major organ

Whereas with dragon's dream it's some shit like f.f's arm hitting a corpse, which then causes flies to come out, which then attract a bird into an already fucked up fan from an earlier fight causing it to break, sending a boomerang shaped shard out which f.f manages to dodge once but then proceeds to boomerang into her head

And every time it's that insane

And I liked that in dragon's dream

[spark cave]

Come back once you understand the Green Green grass and home "fight"

[minor ore]

What

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

[viscid lintel]

I guess maybe doing that would make them take too long for WoU’s “instantly deadly ability” so making them simpler is quicker and less predictable

[analog skiff]

Fair

Just feel like it's one of the less "fun" messing with fate stands

[spark cave]

It doesn't mess with fate

[analog skiff]

Dude got mad at me in SO channel for me saying that the GGGOH fight had a lot of panels that made it feel very weird, along with it being somewhat unclear about the character's locations

[spark cave]

Your bad at lying

[analog skiff]

I mean with the airplane thing and the calamity happening to the higashikas

[spark cave]

You think that's fate?

[analog skiff]

Calamity energy affecting it

Point ia

Stuff like Tohth and dragon's dream that lead to weird coincidences leading to attacks

That's what WoU seemed like to me at least

With how the spray can was conveniently in the bed and conveniently shot jobin

Or the airplane door happening to fall off and fly towards yasuho

Or josuk8 accidentally sending go beyond into rai

[viscid lintel]

Yeah it’s fate but seems like a different kind, like anyone affected gets rewritten into the chain of the worlds logic as the most unfortunately fated person

And then they die

[spark cave]

in the Manga it says it based on "coincidences"

[analog skiff]

I mean isn't that pretty similar to DD and tohth

Yes and DD utilises coincidences to deal damage

And so does tohth

[spark cave]

No?

[velvet garnet]

yasuho is waifu material.

[analog skiff]

Yes they do?

DD causes a shitton of coincidences that cause f.f to get hit

If she successfully dodges an earlier attack

[spark cave]

King crimson and the Rolling stones also work by using fate

[viscid lintel]

I mean it’s not exactly a coincidence if it’s a purposefully caused attack

[analog skiff]

And tohth uses coincidences to make sure it's predictions always succeed

[spark cave]

so it's a chain of attacks]

[analog skiff]

Fair fair

[spark cave]

Like DD

[analog skiff]

By fate I meant the weird "attacks done by coincidence" shit like DD, Tohth, and Wonder of U

Not stuff like rolling stones or king crimson

Which don't utilise those

[sinful hound]

green green grass of home?

[spark cave]

yeah the person said the "fight" was too confusing

Well No Shit Because it's not an Actual fight

[analog skiff]

Whether something is confusing or not doesn't depend on it being a fight or not

And there's good types of confusing and bad types of confusing

And just the panelling for GGGOH imo makes it somewhat difficult to read properly in a first read, and not very enjoyable on a second read

And ultimately the most interesting part of the "fight" is the ability and the stand "learning" as the fight continues

Otherwise it's pretty meh

[minor ore]

Lmao

[spark cave]

yeah it got confused with a very simple premise

[analog skiff]

Thanks

Again I'm not saying the premise is confusing

I'm just saying that the panelling is just weird and makes it difficult to tell at times what is supposed to be happening

Which could definitely be improved in the anime

[sinful bramble]

Probably

[spark cave]

Learn to read Manga Smh

[analog skiff]

I read the entirety of SO, SBR and JJL through manga

[spark cave]

Yet you still don't understand SMH

I should stop before my words get used against me

[minor ore]

Yo yo ma is the best stone ocean arc

[rugged stream]

I mean those are the only ways lol(at the time, I assume you read SO before the anime)

[viscid vigil]

hey

I just finished SBR

and want to proceed with Jojolion

how good is jojolion compared to part 7?

[zenith blaze]

Better 😏

[viscid vigil]

o really?

that's gotta be crazy good then

[minor ore]

Better

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !

[viscid vigil]

poggers

[minor ore]

Mid ball run

(fake)

[viscid vigil]

lmaoo

[spark cave]

there is one problem I have with JoJolion and that is the whole purpose of Fumi-Kun

Wait no I take that back

[minor ore]

who is fumi-kun

[spark cave]

Part 9

Part 8 Joseph Joestar

[minor ore]

oh

[spark cave]

who I guess is going to be the sole purpose of why part 9 occurs

By one of his Children being An Ancestor to the next Joestar

[analog skiff]

imo worse than sbr but still third best part (6 is my fave)

anyways

[minor ore]

Better than sbr

[analog skiff]

i'm curious if the stuff urban geurilla said about the rokakaka being better for rock humans than normal humans will be a plot point in part 9

from what i remember that was never shown in part 8, like ever

[spark cave]

but why did we see Fumi-Kun and Not a resolution for the Tooru arc. I need answers to know what happened to Holly And Kei Dammit

[minor ore]

They died

[spark cave]

did Josuke save them?

[analog skiff]

holly is part 9 and kei existed to die

[minor ore]

Self explanatory

[analog skiff]

holly seems to be a cliffhanger for part 9

[rugged stream]

Kei's dead

[analog skiff]

considering how josuk8 talks about her

[rugged stream]

just call him Josuke in Part 8 chat

[analog skiff]

josuk8 is really nice to pronounce though

[spark cave]

Unless you work for Lucky land Communications

[analog skiff]

i'm just saying that's the vibe i got

[minor ore]

We never got a resolution for iwasuke's arc

[rugged stream]

not even they know what Araki has in store lol

[analog skiff]

just as you say that you get the vibe fumi is to set up part 9 joestar

stop being so consistently hostile to me jesus

[rugged stream]

@spark cave don't stop

[analog skiff]

why

[rugged stream]

cus funni

[analog skiff]

ok

then complain more

[spark cave]

I think he ded

[sinful bramble]

I was uke

[analog skiff]

he was in the final shot

sleeping

[spark cave]

Yep he's dead

[minor ore]

Iwasuke is unbeatable

[sonic hollow]

arki hates dog

[minor ore]

Arki

[analog skiff]

iwasuke was chad enough to survive ozone baby

[sonic hollow]

yes

[spark plover]

My favorite manga artist

[sonic hollow]

i think you mean mang artst

[spark cave]

he actually doesn't surprisingly

[spark plover]

Mango artist

[minor ore]

You can't kill iwasuke

With normal means

[analog skiff]

i don't get why a lot of people hate blue hawaii and dislike brain storm

both are pretty damn great fights honestly

[spark cave]

I don't hate them

[analog skiff]

let me find my old jjl tier list

[minor ore]

Because if iwasuke was there the fights would be 1 page long

[spark cave]

Brainstorm had by far one of the funniest moments IMO

[analog skiff]

arc tier list DR WU HAS MOVED UP TO ABOVE KILLER QUEEN ON THIS TIER LIST, and speed king represents fun fun fun 2

this is old so i didn't bother to edit dr wu to be in a new position

also ordered with left being better than right

[minor ore]

Where iwasuke

[analog skiff]

speed king represents uh

fun fun fun 2

i forgot about beetle fight sorry

i know that's heretic

but i just did

beetle fight ig goes to above milagro man in b

but before killer queen

[spark cave]

I just love this scene

[analog skiff]

on one hand this fight is impossible to read in b&w but on the other hand the colouring is so ugly for this imo lol

[spark cave]

Oh I'm so sorry

[analog skiff]

it's cool how urban guerilla focused on one person at a time as he said multiple times and this is why he lost

[spark cave]

Yeah

[analog skiff]

since he forgot that he was still carrying josuk8

as he focused on rai

[spark cave]

I though Hate Mamazuku's attitude in the fight

[viscid vigil]

based

part 6 was one of my favourites too

I just love seeing jotaro in action

so that was probably a huge factor

[spark cave]

like his whole mentality of "If I sacrifice someone who's helping me I'll survive"

[analog skiff]

i mean i like him for that

he's the ultimate sigma jobro

[daring yoke]

does any of you have a cbv. file for part 8 ?

(colored)

[rugged stream]

impossible my ass

[analog skiff]

it was an exxageration

this fight does have readability issues in b&w, especially when you don't know what doremi looks like yet

[spark cave]

no? How do I get one

[kind owl]

@spark cave, Your Stand Rank is now level 15 !

[minor ore]

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep Love Train Over Heaven Act 4 Bites The Dust Requiem Go Beyond

[spark cave]

Soft and Park King Of U Requiem Over Heaven Act 69 The Dust Of the 9 Realities passed by Love train Go beyond

[sonic hollow]

thats a good arc

[minor ore]

how did they draw it then i wonder (legit)

69 funny sex number ha ha ha

[minor ore]

wait what was the contxt for this again

[spark cave]

Brainstorm Arc

[minor ore]

hes a reasonable guy when was he asshole squared

[spark cave]

The Brainstorm Arc

[minor ore]

how did he demonstrate that personality trait

like @ yasuho?

[spark cave]

By Pushing Yashuo into Danger

When he didn't have to

[minor ore]

thats just casual misogyny

or blatant rather

hes just being "haha funny misogyny" or something

thats how i took it

[spark cave]

Now I think about it Mamazuku is misogenistic

and what happened to him

well he died

[minor ore]

i dont mean to say it to incriminate him or use that as his defining feature

he is an asshole but its funny

[spark cave]

Find it annoying

[minor ore]

i probably dont think hes misygonistic more than just generally a jerk-off

written to have the adult quirk to him

probably fed up living on the mountain patch

[spark cave]

Probably

[minor ore]

man sleeps in a twin sized bed above the earth

my point is that his jerk mode "flaw" makes him more realistic

[spark cave]

yeah

[minor ore]

like he didnt stand out to me until (dont kill me for this) until he acted that way

what else could it have been instead?

hes unique so far in the story that way (?) or who is evn remotely similar to him?

[spark cave]

I hate it when a friend betrays another friend

[minor ore]

they were just getting comfortable and yasuho is the bigger person for not taking it too personally (?)

[spark cave]

Joubin

[minor ore]

but fair point

jobin is less selfish than rai

[spark cave]

but more idiotic

[minor ore]

and the instructions were to protect rai anyways so i can see why he would get egotistical

[spark cave]

True

[minor ore]

rai is smarter right

than jobin at least

cant discern the difference personally

theres lots of "smart" characters but less smart moves that any given one makes besides the protags (Y+J)

why'd u stop ttypijng u seemed like u had something good

[spark cave]

all I could think about was Jotaro and his stupid decisions

[tame plover]

@brave geyser it seems GrandGuerilla the walking W also feels like shitting on jojotubers

[serene radish]

if they ever animate part 8 i dont think they gonna add the part tooru dancing to the music

[minor ore]

isnt elvis public domain or what happened to the estates i lost track

[placid swift]

omg they use cgi?!?!??!?!?!?!? they should just hand draw everythignrgr!!!@!@`

[serene radish]

idk maybe

[spark cave]

They did Hand drew the DIU Backgrounds but they were much simpler to do

I got this from Anime wins: every thing great about Diamond is Unbreakable

[minor ore]

Shuck “draw my oc getting fucked” the cuck meister

[spark cave]

shuck agreed with someone saying that JoJo is a bad series

[minor ore]

Jojo sucks

[spark cave]

but like it's been around for 35 YEARS?!

[minor ore]

Wrong

[spark cave]

it's JoJo's 35th aniversary

[minor ore]

Nuh uh

[fair smelt]

ok chill fnaf fan ur like 8 or sum

[minor ore]

Wtf

Where did the comment go

@spark cave ask it again

[spark cave]

Are You Blind

Dojaah

it appeared again

[minor ore]

No it’s right here

[minor ore]

There we go

[spark cave]

Take that as a yes

[minor ore]

I just got some ihop so if you want any just let me know

[dull chasm]

Many CGI haters are usually ridiculous and biased in their hatred against CGI usage in animes

For them it doesn't matter if something looks good and polished. They just start malding and go with "hurr it's Berserk 2016 quality noo"

[lusty rampart]

DiU is a great showcase of how to low budget and still work

and also how to cover 174 chapters in 39 episodes

[dull chasm]

May I remind that similar thing, however not as much intense (since there were not a lot of social media out there), happened during the transition from 2D hand drawn art to 2D digital art

[analog skiff]

god this thing was funky

[wispy lion]

certain jojo fans when they see CG

[analog skiff]

fr

there's the occasional jarring cgi but most of it is great

but jojolion discussion?

[dull chasm]

2D hand drawn animation stans were fiercely thrashing animes made with the usage of a new (back then) method - 2D digital art

It didn't matter whether the anime looked good or bad (at first, many animes made with 2D digital technique weren't impressive indeed). Haters were hating anyway

[analog skiff]

i mean not everything should become cgi but when used right it can either be very good looking or be a good way of using the budget better on more important things

like manhattan transfer cgi is very good looking and SOME lang wrangler cgi is actually pretty good and hard to notice unless you pay a lot of attention

[dull chasm]

I expect JoJolion to have a lot of CGI. Maybe not as much as Dorohedoro had, but e
way more than Parts 1-5

[analog skiff]

how so?

ig stuff like de do do do

would be very hard to animate

normally

and ig

what was it

doobie wah

[sinful bramble]

D7 and Obladi didn’t need to happen

[rugged stream]

that rock animal in the brainstorm fight is def getting cgi treatment

[analog skiff]

cry

[dull chasm]

Yup. Or dynamic sequences during Born This Way arc

[analog skiff]

hm

it does fairly simple movements

so unsure whether it would need cgi or not

at least

from what i remember

d7 is pog

obladi is a little lame but it's cooler than a gun

and good body horror

d7 is legit great i'll die on this hill

it doesn't overstay its welcome and it's a fun and weird enemy

[dull chasm]

I referred to moments where CGI usage would be a good idea, btw.

[analog skiff]

but yeah

honestly more excited for a jojolion adaptation than an sbr adaptation

while i prefer sbr to jojolion a little, sbr works perfectly fine in manga for the most part

whereas jjl has a lot of stuff that would be very great animated

and some improvements to tooru could be done

i do like tooru but i think he got kinda fucked over in terms of backstory

[lusty rampart]

Born This Way is gonna be CGI modeled in some places for sure

[dull chasm]

Anyway, it's just a normal process of technological development in the anime industry

[analog skiff]

ofc

[dull chasm]

I'm worried that we have already heard informations about SBR not relying that much on CGI

[lusty rampart]

as long as it's a detailed model i dont mind

unless it's used really badly

[dull chasm]

Horses could definitely be made with CGI

So the budget could be saved for other stuff

[analog skiff]

i wonder how long a jjl adaptation will be?

[lusty rampart]

that was one anime production guy saying he wouldnt use CGI

[analog skiff]

could it be as long as part 3 anime episode wise, if not longer?

[lusty rampart]

then the jojo fandom taking that statement as cope

[analog skiff]

part 3 was massively overextended in the anime

even if it was shorter in the manga

[dull chasm]

After all, one decent horse model can be used in many variations and serve as a model for other character's horse

[lusty rampart]

both SBR and JJL are 48-52 episodes long

[analog skiff]

i wonder how many episodes of

d4c and wonder of u

[dull chasm]

Oh, so it was like a singular opinion?

[analog skiff]

wonder of u would be like

[lusty rampart]

d4c is about 6 episodes before ball breaker starts

[analog skiff]

8 or 10 fr

also

depending on if you count fun fun fun 2

as part of wonder of u

or not

[lusty rampart]

I do wish they used the original title of that arc in the anime

[dull chasm]

I think 48 eps for JoJolion might be enough

[lusty rampart]

"Ojiro Again"

because it's kind of funny lul

[lusty rampart]

it depends really, we need to see how they adapt SBR's monthly chapters before we can be really sure

I have a concern than 2 chapters might be too much content sometimes for a whole episode

some episodes will be 1.5 monthly chapters

Diego & Hot Pants vs Valentine should be 2.5-3 chapters in that episode BTW

I paced it out and it's looking sick

[dull chasm]

Yeah, that's true. I just shared my general thoughts about hypothetical amount of episodes

[analog skiff]

ojiro is like

biggest chad minor villain ever

along with rykiel

[dull chasm]

It'd be safe to assume that we can treat 1 double length chapter as 2 chapters 20 pages each

[lusty rampart]

Araki knows how to make people chads

even if it's before they lose

lmao discord spam bot LUL

[dull chasm]

So JoJolion might be treated as well as 220 chapters long Part, and SBR as 190 chapters long

[lusty rampart]

the early SBR chapters were shorter too

Anyway I find it pretty non-coincidental that JJL was 110 chapters

[dull chasm]

Yes

[lusty rampart]

Because the 55th chapter is the exact halfway point

where Damo dies

[dull chasm]

It's all really general predictions tbh

[lusty rampart]

It's like they did it for the anime

SBR & JJL have perfect two seasons like Part 3

[dull chasm]

Some chapters were heavy on dialogues, while some were filled with action

[analog skiff]

my biggest hope for the anime is better execution of tooru

emphasis on execution

i like tooru's concepts a ton

[dull chasm]

No no no no, Part 3 anime flashbacks have returned

[lusty rampart]

My biggest cope is to rewrite Jobin to be the main villain

[analog skiff]

they're just not executed very well imo

[lusty rampart]

Copium 100%

[analog skiff]

jobin is cool and would have been a great mv if his stand worked for it but tooru is pretty great conceptwise too imo

i do agree jobin's death should be less sudden, maybe

the suddenness does work in a way and jobin has no real way to fight wou sadly

at least make it more clear he died then

honestly

wou's impenetrable nature is like

what hurts a lot of the arc writing wise imo

it's basically impossible for anyone to fight it properly without absolute bs

[lusty rampart]

it needed to be shorter

[analog skiff]

i think the length was fine

[lusty rampart]

Though

[analog skiff]

i just think that the stand should be nerfed in some way

and go beyond to not be as out of the blue

or just not there

[lusty rampart]

I'm ready for the first season of JJL to be higher rated than the second season

[analog skiff]

ehh

first season has a shitton of wack fights

even if the story progression is better imo

[lusty rampart]

oh i dont know which ones you're talking about

[analog skiff]

second half fights are consistently top tier

everything up to damo

damo is good

[lusty rampart]

huh that isnt the popular opinion tbh

[analog skiff]

shitton doesn't mean all

whereas everything after damo

well except milagro man

and dr wu imo but i know tons of people love that arc

my point is

all post damo arcs except maybe milagro man are goated

[dull chasm]

Dr. Wu arc was interesting as an arc, but I felt that it was quite underwhelming

[analog skiff]

dr wu felt kinda repetitive honestly

[minor ore]

It needed to be LONGER

[dull chasm]

I think that it had more potential to be even more fun to read

[lusty rampart]

I don't know which first half fights you're thinking of tho

[analog skiff]

oh

[lusty rampart]

Is it I am a Rock, Love Love Deluxe or Paper Moon deception

[analog skiff]

california king bed, doobie wah, shakedown road are all kinda bad for the most part imo and paper moon king and beetle fight are meh imo

[lusty rampart]

those are the only meh ones

[dull chasm]

Yes, this. At some point it became just dull for me and I was praying for that arc to finally end

[tame plover]

including vitamin c arm right

[analog skiff]

i said some first half fights

vitamin c is good

although honestly

[lusty rampart]

Doobie Wah is my favorite JJL minor JJL fight so I was hoping you wouldn't say that LMAOOOOOOOO

HA

[analog skiff]

unpopular opinion

while vitamin c is a great first read

second read and so there's not much to the actual fight

other than hato kicking ass and the josuk8 punch]

[lusty rampart]

it's great for the plot

[minor ore]

Shakedown Road and the Beetle fight are A tier do not bring these shenanigans here

[tame plover]

flashback

[analog skiff]

anyways

my jjl top 5 in order from worst to best are

fun fun fun 2, brain storm, blue hawaii, born this way, ozone baby

[lusty rampart]

Ozone Baby is actually sick as fuck when you really consider how the pacing runs

when you read it straight it might not be as impactful

but when you think about how it's paced in an anime

which parts are slow and which are fast

[analog skiff]

i think even in manga form it's great

[lusty rampart]

it's legitimately tense as f

[lusty rampart]

I agree but I'm thinking of the people who didn't like it monthly

[analog skiff]

i mean

[lusty rampart]

I think they gotta reread

[analog skiff]

that was the issue with blue hawaii

[lusty rampart]

true

[analog skiff]

very fast paced arc that lasted over 4 months in publication

[lusty rampart]

it's 5 chapters that'll go in two episodes imo

[analog skiff]

man crazy that part 8 will be like

2026

or later

depends

probs like

[lusty rampart]

definitely longer

[analog skiff]

2028

[lusty rampart]

thinking SBR's 2025 at least

[analog skiff]

i wonder when part 9 will finish

[lusty rampart]

I'm thinking less than 90 chapters

[analog skiff]

i assume it will get animated soon after it finishes since it will probs finish after part 8 anime has already been done for a while

[lusty rampart]

I think Araki should have planned it shorter

Unless, of course, He is fucking crazy

[analog skiff]

and after part 9

unless they do like

[lusty rampart]

Which he is

LUL

[analog skiff]

crazy diamond's demonic heartbreak ova

that would be hype btw

[lusty rampart]

If it doesn't have anything too noncanon sounding

it will have a chance

[analog skiff]

chaddest yasuho shot

[tame plover]

What is going on there

[analog skiff]

airplane door barely missing yasuho

because tooru got launched in front of it and it got redirected

imma be honest

is it just me or does wonder of u's calamities like

happen at a snail's pace when kaato arrives

i really feel like it should have fucked her up

tbf i guess tooru was horribly injured

and his stand was affected too

can't wait for jjl anime

and every anime only and their mother already knows tooru is mv

[tame plover]

Well sometimes they just insta snap your neck

They are rather random

[minor ore]

Time Stop would unironically kill Tooru

[analog skiff]

depends honestly how calamity energy works

[alpine trench]

Would also kill the user after tho

[analog skiff]

for all we know it could still persist in timestop and cause something to happen that prevents you from being able to attack him properly

[minor ore]

I want to say it depends on the user and what position they’re in

Surviving a calamity has shown to be possible

[analog skiff]

i mean

the reason why the airplane door failed to hit yasuho was due to tooru being in the way so it had to move out of it

and i see very little situations where that could happen in timestop

well

ig if he was launched into whatever the calamity was

when timestop ends

also man

still sad times for joshu fans

[minor ore]

Baseless

[analog skiff]

i'm just saying it's a possibility

[minor ore]

I sorely doubt it

There's literally no reason to assume it would work like that

Calamity isn't boundless. The only scary attribute about it is how it can come from literally anywhere/anything and the fact that it will cause severe damage regardless of what it is that hits you

Nothing suggests it bypasses any kind of logic

[alpine trench]

Wonder of you has been seen able to affect behaviors as well tho (Joshu)

So it's possible

[minor ore]

That's fine. That just plays into the "it can come from anywhere/anything" aspect

And how does that correlate with stopping time at all? Lol

[alpine trench]

It affects the user

It could for example make Jotaro miss count the seconds of time stop

[minor ore]

[alpine trench]

Just a possibility man

[minor ore]

That's like saying "it can just make Josuke forget he has Go Beyond"

[alpine trench]

True

@tame plover

[minor ore]

I hope that was an admission of creditlessness

[analog skiff]

why is this still up

[tame plover]

What

[analog skiff]

@near cedar

[wispy lion]

thats nsfw

[analog skiff]

modsss

[alpine trench]

um delete it

[wispy lion]

delete it rq

[minor ore]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-scare-crying-cry-scary-gif-12191195

[woven anvil]

@fast valley has been muted

[alpine trench]

Not even nsfw that's just porn

[analog skiff]

there we go

[wispy lion]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-pack-bozo-dead-gif-20309754

[minor ore]

Mfw I ended up watching it cuz you guys pointed it out

[near cedar]

I am sorry that anyone had to see that

[wispy lion]

also they're talking in russian in #steel-ball-run

[alpine trench]

Russian ? THOSE BASTARDS

[analog skiff]

they did it there too

[minor ore]

I require compensation

[near cedar]

And look at that every message they have ever sent is gone now

[alpine trench]

I can't believe they would bait others using Puppies, the purest kind of wholesome

[minor ore]

If you were baited by puppies, then you deserved it tbh, but that was depressing

[tame plover]

I just assumed it was a random meme

[near cedar]

i only clicked on it to know what kind of punishment i need to deliver

[alpine trench]

If I get one puppy video in 5 then it's worth to click on them

[near cedar]

i regret clicking it but hey

at least it wasn't the worst thing i've heard of or seen

[wispy lion]

same

[alpine trench]

The punishment that comes with the job i guess

The dark web is a pathway to many disgusting imagery some consider to be unnatural

[wispy lion]

yes

[serene radish]

so your saying i might see one of diavolos death?

[alpine trench]

You might even see your own

[serene radish]

impossible

[alpine trench]

Live streams are really messed up there

[boreal portal]

in which chapter of the manga does jojolion start?

[alpine trench]

Since most people read Jojo in parts and not as a collective (like myself) it's hard to find an answer to that

wait a second

[alpine trench]

Chapter 848: Welcome to Morioh

[boreal portal]

thanks

[brave geyser]

common hugo w

[alpine trench]

Ik you would have got it if u had arrived here first Ash

Ash almost w

[brave geyser]

nah i wouldn't have tbh

ur just on another level

[alpine trench]

A level below

[brave geyser]

debatable

[minor ore]

who tf reads it like this

they deliberately made it as easy as possible to follow by calling it parts

having to ask where a brand new section is within the entire series...thats like eating soup with the back of the spoon

[minor ore]

The "lion" in the title"Jojolion" means things like "blessed thing", "evangelistic", and "commemorative seal". It's a word from ancient Greek or something like that. By combining this word with "Jojo", I've meant for the title to signify the existence of the protagonist "Josuke" in this world. It's also used in the name of the tragic king in a Greek myth called "Pygmalion" as well as the Japanese animation "Evangelion", but I'm not sure if it has to do with the same idea. ”
—Hirohiko Araki

He didn’t say that

[sonic hollow]

he kinda did

[minor ore]

proof???

[minor ore]

where the lion heeh

[slow gyro]

Whattheliondoing

[spiral walrus]

yotsuyu isnt a girl

day ruind

[minor ore]

I am a rock

shutterrrfuckup

[minor ore]

No

But ok

[minor ore]

They're a rock

[placid swift]

i am an island

[minor ore]

hey titoru

i know what star platinum requiem would do

[placid swift]

yes what does it do

[minor ore]

I already said it

[placid swift]

where

[minor ore]

in another chat

[viscid lintel]

So wait does Fun Fun Fun have to be exactly above a target to control them or was it just that he just has to be at a position that is above them, no matter what that position is

[placid swift]

exactly above the target i believe

[viscid lintel]

Damn that sucks then, so I’m assuming he can only control one person at a time in that case

[minor ore]

Exactly

[viscid lintel]

And if he loses track of them (which isn’t hard) because he literally can’t see them hes fucked

[minor ore]

Yup

[viscid lintel]

Damn it was worse than I thought it was

[minor ore]

Easily one of the worst

Plus they need four open wounds

In different places

[viscid lintel]

I can’t even remember can he even utilize someone’s stand? I don’t remember him ever using Josuke’s

[minor ore]

Nope

Only Thier physical body

Not stands

He would also need perfect memory of the area underneath him

[viscid lintel]

So is there anything stopping a stand user like Josuke, from just grabbing themselves with there own stand, so Ojiro can’t move him?

[minor ore]

AND if he harms them by hitting a wall he has to hit himself aswell

Josuk8 wakes up nude

[rugged stream]

multiple actually

[minor ore]

Yes

[minor ore]

That's he's evolved form

Evolved is wayyy more useful

[viscid lintel]

Oh yea I was meaning his original fight

[rugged stream]

evolved? there's no such thing stated

[minor ore]

His skills evolve

No longer need a wound for a sigil

[rugged stream]

the first fight had him control both the woman and Josuke lol

[minor ore]

He can just stand above the higashikata household to control them

[rugged stream]

he could do multiple ppl from the get go

[minor ore]

He just needs the sigils for it

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 6 !

[rugged stream]

no. he also had to injure them as well

[viscid lintel]

But how would he control multiple people at once doesn’t he also have to act out the action he wants to perform since he puppets them along?

Or is it different

[minor ore]

He didn't have to harm tsurugi

[minor ore]

Uh uHHH UHHH BRAIN OVERLOAD

[rugged stream]

he doesn't it's essentially puppetering

[viscid lintel]

How would he be under two people at once though to do so?

[rugged stream]

they just have to be in the same area

[simple vessel]

Wu tamaki is an underrated character, change my mind

[lusty rampart]

hehe I made a thing

Could be 48-52 episodes

[simple vessel]

reasonable

[lusty rampart]

i had a 'current chapter' list 2 years ago but i lost that so i remade it

[viscid lintel]

So all that matters is that he’s above a person in the same area they’re in i.e like a building or something?

[minor ore]

Fun Fun Fun is initially able to control a target's movements through their wounds.

If a target incurs the slightest injury on their body while being physically under Fun Fun Fun, notably the hands or feet, the blood flowing from the injury clots to form a symbol in the shape of a broken circle with a triangle pointing inward.[2] The corresponding injured limb then falls under Ojiro's control, allowing him to move it as he pleases.[3] If a mark accumulates on every extremity, Ojiro effectively gains complete control of his target's movement, as all hands and feet can be manipulated. Nonetheless, the victim can still freely talk and move other unmarked parts of the body like the shoulders. Moreover, once Ojiro takes complete control of a victim, they are locked beneath him and will follow him if he moves.[4]

The marks on the injured body part gain volume when Ojiro actively controls a target.[4]

However, Ojiro must be physically above his victims to control them and be conscious about it. One may stand beneath him with all four limbs marked and be free of their movement if Ojiro loses track of their position (for instance, Josuke made the room he was trapped in soundproof in order to throw Ojiro off).[3] An injury doesn't transform into a symbol unless Ojiro stands above the victim.[4]

When Ojiro later returns, Fun Fun Fun is able to place its mark on the victim's limb without them being injured.[5]

he just has to know where they are

[ornate fiber]

[viscid lintel]

Oh okay I see, so aslong as he knows where both targets are he can control both at once?

[minor ore]

yes

[lusty rampart]

man just copypasted the wiki for him

[viscid lintel]

Oh okay that makes sense, I could see it being not completely useless in that case like if he is able to mark someone while looking from a distance with binoculars

[viscid lintel]

I’m dumb tbh I prolly needed it

[minor ore]

but

he still has to be above them

[viscid lintel]

Oh yeah I can just imagine ojiro’s ass like stationed up in a tree with some binoculars or something dumb

I could see him doing that

[bold sapphire]

Jojo Leon Abbakio

[lime mica]

was just looking for this

[minor ore]

imao

knowing him he would probably do it

[minor ore]

Oh bro

josuke is so powerful

and his stand

is so underrated

[fathom karma]

among all jojos?

probably joseph stand is more underrated

[minor ore]

Agreed

Actually no

[fathom karma]

nobody rlly talked about hermit purple

[minor ore]

Stone free more underrated imo

[fathom karma]

YEAAA

your right

[minor ore]

Like

It has roughly similar strength to crazy diamond

Allows jolyne to mend herself

Turn her skin bulletproof

And a lot of other stuff

[fathom karma]

stone free is useful in most situation

it can heal like cream starter

[minor ore]

But alas,she can only heal herself

Also

I just realised that there's 2 cream starters

[fathom karma]

not rlly two

wait

[minor ore]

There's two holsters

There's two cans

You can see them a lot

Just need to pay attention

Yes there has always been two

[rugged stream]

I mean if simple stitching of open wounds equals to having flesh replace a part of your body, I guess

[cedar kraken]

hermit purple is the shittiest stand

[tired mirage]

classic hugob

[cedar kraken]

even survivor is better

[alpine trench]

lmao

[fathom karma]

fr

[cedar kraken]

how

[crimson fern]

Y'all sleeping on Hermit Purple

[kind owl]

@crimson fern, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[crimson fern]

He can spiderman with that shit

[cedar kraken]

Doggy style is also a shit stand

Not any better than hermit purple

any stand is

survivor is better

[crimson fern]

Can you spiderman swing with Survivor?

Exactly

[cedar kraken]

oh yes, this instantly makes hermit purple the best stand

who gives a shit about that when you can be spider man

WoU and d4c

doggy style has the worst stand design

It's a stand

ball breaker is good because the user is the best jojo character

Tusk?

it looks like shit

[minor ore]

Tusk looks adorable-

[cedar kraken]

not act 1

[cedar kraken]

no it doesn't

It's horrifying

[minor ore]

🪞

[wintry heart]

Are there officially coloured chapters of jojolion too?

[kind owl]

@wintry heart, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

[wintry heart]

Can u name the website?

[fading atlas]

Mangadex.org has colored JoJolion

Up to chapter 102

[wintry heart]

Okk thanks

[analog skiff]

Reminder that Rai was able to launch an ordinary fork with enough force it was able to pierce a ski-lift tower

[alpine trench]

Reminder that Rai can divide himself into small lines of himself so thecnically he can be eated like spaguetti

[ornate fiber]

[limpid mason]

vore

[brave geyser]

🤤

[minor ore]

I really like tooru, might just be in my top 5 jojo villain list

[spark cave]

Gappy's Soft and Wet

It's so versatile I need it for everyday life

[plain canyon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[simple vessel]

Speed king and Doctor Wu

[simple vessel]

my fav villain is Dolomite and my fav main villain is Pucci

[barren bough]

either D4C, Ozone Baby or Killer Queen

[minor ore]

Either dirty deeds done dirt cheap, Wonder of U, Heavens door or Tusk act 4.

[brave parcel]

This pic goes so hard, feel free to screenshot

[spark cave]

that

just

[dull chasm]

I like the aesthetics

[minor ore]

Looks like an nft

[wispy lion]

true

[spark cave]

Do you support NFTs

[wispy lion]

no

[spark cave]

Me neither

[spiral walrus]

lazy norisuke

selling for 330,000 yen

[alpine trench]

I don't because the idea itself is stupid but I don't condemn the people that create and sell them

[wispy lion]

also doesnt it harm the environment?

[alpine trench]

They are used to either commit money laundering or to abuse the stupid people that buy them so

[wispy lion]

from the amount of energy taken from the crypto?

[mossy sinew]

Yes

They're also taking resources or something

Since they buy up all those graphic cards and processors for their super computers

[alpine trench]

Doesn't that applies to everyone that buys a top gamma pc?

[mossy sinew]

No

Because that's one person buying one pc

But they're buying a shit ton of them

Like hundreds

[alpine trench]

NFT creators?

Why?

[wispy lion]

I’ve only got one pc with a really good graphics card (3090) and someone said I was just as bad as NFT creators for that

[spark cave]

What counts as an NFT

[mossy sinew]

Idk about NFT creators but I know that regular crypto mfs do that to mine the currency

[mossy sinew]

Images you buy using crypto ig

The kind where you pretty much "own" them

[alpine trench]

Virtual images*

Wait then

Trying to answer Rohan first question

[alpine trench]

Do they?

[mossy sinew]

Yes

There are whole building filled with super computers

Just to mine crypto

[placid swift]

i have no idea why they take so much power

[mossy sinew]

Which eats up a shit ton of power

[placid swift]

they consume the same amount of power as sweden

[wispy lion]

Yeah, the amount of power they take is really too much for it

[alpine trench]

But.. they are images

[wispy lion]

The images itself doesn’t harm, it’s the crypto

[viscid lintel]

The blockchain and netcode is why

Not the image itself

[spark cave]

What is the difference between an NFT and a Commission

[wispy lion]

because to my knowledge crypto takes about 1,544 kWh

[alpine trench]

Then it's not the NFT itself that causes the harm but the currency that it uses+encourages?

[mossy sinew]

A commission is just paying money to have an artist draw something for you

[spark cave]

ok

[mossy sinew]

NFT is buying an already existing png

[spark cave]

I see

[mossy sinew]

To "own" it

[spark cave]

Wait hold on

[viscid lintel]

An NFT is apparently protected by a “blockchain” which gives the image an original ipv6 code which makes it an original digital copy only a single person owns, but the whole system is so flawed and dumb it only works for money laundering and scamming old people

[wispy lion]

nah you can just screenshot it and go lmfao

It’s the blockchain, netcode and the currency it’s endorsing

[viscid lintel]

That’s why it’s a “Non-Fungible Token” it’s basically a receipt saying you own this original file and blockchain of this certain “token” usually an image

[spark cave]

Does this count as an NFT

[wispy lion]

if they wanna make it an NFT they can

[placid swift]

people don't really care about the image itself just the fact that they have a digital token that says they 'own' it

[wispy lion]

They can literally turn anything into an NFT

I saw people steal art and turn it into NFT

[viscid lintel]

If you got it listed with blockchain and netcode then yes

[spark cave]

ok so it needs a special netcode

[wispy lion]

Do you guys know this meme?

[viscid lintel]

You could turn a bag of shit into an NFT if you gave it it’s own special code

[spark cave]

yes

[wispy lion]

It was sold on the NFT market

im not shitting you

[viscid lintel]

Yes one that’s supposed to be “entirely unique” to it so that copies aren’t technically the original copy, but it’s dumb and doesn’t work, and it’s not supposed to

[placid swift]

nyan cat also got sold as an NFT

[viscid lintel]

99.999% sure it’s whole purpose was a scam in the beginning

[wispy lion]

NOOOOOOOOO NOT NYAN CAT

[placid swift]

its the most stupid shit humanity has come up with in the history of mankind

[wispy lion]

[mossy sinew]

Doge I think too

[spark cave]

especially where mine already has a pre owned Character

[placid swift]

its like posting your digital art online unwatermarked and selling it for $50,000

[viscid lintel]

Basically don’t worry about NFT’s they’re basically Picrews for crypto bros

Which are used to launder money and accelerate global warming

[wispy lion]

Fun NFT fact: Did you know the hashtag #RightClickVictim exists on Twitter because NFT owners are making a big deal about their stuff being screenshotted?

[spark cave]

Has anyone seen any of Araki's art on the NFT market

[mossy sinew]

It's satire right?
right?

[placid swift]

the only profits you're gonna get from NFTs is from idiots that buy them

[wispy lion]

no but my childhood game Animal Jam turned into an NFT endorsing company

and I’ve never forgiven them since

[spark cave]

If it's twitter than no

[wispy lion]

I wish

[mossy sinew]

[wispy lion]

what I find saddening is that they started as a company/game trying to actually teach kids about helping the environment and spreading awareness to extinct animals and such

now they’ve become the very thing they wanted to destroy

[placid swift]

they're literally using so much electricity they could power a country

[mossy sinew]

[wispy lion]

not only do NFT images exist, but NFT games do as well

Have you guys heard of the roblox game that started selling NFTS?

[alpine trench]

And an NFT animated series

[wispy lion]

I believe it’s called Pet Simulator X

[placid swift]

they could probably power the united states of america if they stopped using their electricity to farm crypto

[mossy sinew]

Bro w h a t

It's a kids game

Why would they sell nfts

[viscid lintel]

Don’t forget the NFT YouTube animated series

[mossy sinew]

That's so stupid

[wispy lion]

I believe it’s against Roblox’s ToS again I’m not sure

[alpine trench]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K-xkPP7Hfk&ab_channel=TheRedApeFamily

kill me

[wispy lion]

the only entertaining thing about that was that “FUUCK” the voice actor said

[placid swift]

guys im selling this picture of my discord screen for $69,000,000
anyone who copies the image is a stinky poopoohead with too much brain

[wispy lion]

someone edited that episode where all lines are replaced by it and it’s hilarious

[mossy sinew]

Screnshitted noob hahaha

[placid swift]

nuuuuuuu how could u

#rightclickvictim

[wispy lion]

Omg can we trade!!! I’m selling this for 820,382,380 dollars!!

(this is an actual NFT btw)

[mossy sinew]

WHAT

[minor ore]

nice

[mossy sinew]

Why are so many nfts so ugly tho

[spark cave]

Araki Should sue

[mossy sinew]

Like wouldn't you want them to look good so people would actually want them

[wispy lion]

ok guys this is my nft don’t screenshot pls or I’ll sue you

[alpine trench]

No one buys NFT for their quality

[spark cave]

I'm going to report you to DP

[alpine trench]

Another one of those monkeys smh

[wispy lion]

Selling for the lowest price of $700,000,000!!!!!!

[minor ore]

Monke monke

[placid swift]

$500,000,000,000 price is non-negotiable

[minor ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/928364639635529748/unknown.png

I screenshot your NFT 😈

[placid swift]

how could you

[minor ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/928364639635529748/unknown.png

[wispy lion]

#RightClickVictim

[sinful bramble]

Would unironically pay for that

[alpine trench]

A Gorilla that dresses willingly with a sailor outfit and is able to drive a real boat + a real boat is less expensive smh

[mossy sinew]

Jojo is nft supporter ?!!?!?!!!!

[wispy lion]

Imagine someone’s selling discord roles as NFTs

[wispy lion]

smhing head my shake it’s a good deal

[alpine trench]

Always has been

[sinful bramble]

It’s Josh I can’t resist

[minor ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/928364317433278554/IMG_2629.jpg

[wispy lion]

HOW COULD YOU

[alpine trench]

Welcome to Araki long con

[minor ore]

I screen shot NFT 😈

[spark cave]

This is an NFT

[wispy lion]

#RightClickVictim guys my NFT was just screenshotted, changing my pfp and banner to black as well as making my name “Gone.” I’m done with everything

[minor ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/928365080196841482/unknown.png

I screenshot your NFT 😈

[spark cave]

That's not mine

[minor ore]

I screenshot NFT

[mossy sinew]

Good

[wispy lion]

LOL

[mossy sinew]

There's no way this isn't satire

[spark cave]

Spam L

[wispy lion]

I hope it is

[alpine trench]

I don't want to see u ever again around these parts, only NFTs owners can walk in a virgin server as good as this one

[wispy lion]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sinful bramble]

The 3 exclamation marks and lack of talking about anything but NFTs confirms it

[wispy lion]

Fun fact: this is being sold for 200,000,000 USD

[placid swift]

this is my most prized possession

priceless, cannot be sold for money

[wispy lion]

Right clicked 😈

[placid swift]

delete it

[wispy lion]

im going to resell it and profit off of it now

[mossy sinew]

Ok at this point it's just a dumb try to get rich lmao

[wispy lion]

This is being sold for over 15K

[mossy sinew]

It's like in that one building in animal crossing where you can basically start an auction for anything you own for whatever price you want

[placid swift]

yoo how do you have so many expensive nfts!!!!!!! ur so rich!!!!!!!!

[mossy sinew]

I would always just put a singular fruit there and sell it for millions

In hopes someone would buy it

[wispy lion]

im soooo rich!! im profiting off the NFTs!!!!

[alpine trench]

Lmao, im waiting for u tell me it worked once

[wispy lion]

Actually

[kind owl]

@wispy lion, Your Stand Rank is now level 36 !

[wispy lion]

WHAT A HORRIBLE MESSAGE TO LEVEL UP ON

[mossy sinew]

It never did :(

[mossy sinew]

No that's the best message to level up to

[wispy lion]

ok but did you know that a 12 year old became a billionaire from selling whale NFTs

im not joking there’s a news article

[mossy sinew]

Nah doubt that

Billionaire in crypto doesnt mean shit

[placid swift]

nfts are basically the selling and reselling of tokens in the hopes that someone gets scammed and the other gets rich, while also using up enough electricity to power a first-world country

[mossy sinew]

If you don't own the money physically then you basically don't own it in the first place

[placid swift]

even beanie babies were better than this

[wispy lion]

omg I remember those

[placid swift]

at least the beanie babies were physical objects that were in actual scarce demand

[mossy sinew]

Wouldn't that be only like 100 thousand?

[alpine trench]

That kid is gonna grow up to be an asshole lmao

[wispy lion]

yup

[wispy lion]

gaining more everyday

[wispy lion]

I used to collect these back in the day

I still have my collection

same with ddakji

[viscid lintel]

Would Bohemian Rhapsody technically be able to bring NFT’s to life?

[wispy lion]

probably