jojolion

[sage crag]

why is aero mad

[sudden nymph]

Because the story isn’t going how he wanted it too

Probably

[sage crag]

oh nvm

[minor ore]

because jobin and caato obviously were never made to be MVs and I genuinely do not understand people who thought otherwise

Like you gotta have a huge piece of wood far up your ass to think either of them would be MVs by some point

[heavy ledge]

go beyond is kind of weird i have to say, especially in this chapter, but im not as pissed as him at jojolion tbh. theres still more of it

[sudden nymph]

I thought it was a possibility Caato might have been a final villain but not the main villain but the chapter she came back pretty much debunked that

[winter spade]

They’re anti hero like and opposing our hero in story based terms

But they’re not villains

[minor ore]

yeah cant see it

[winter spade]

Far from the main villain

[heavy ledge]

hero as in mc because theres no hero in this story ig?

[winter spade]

Yes

Protagonist

[heavy ledge]

literature speaking and shit

idk i havent paid attention in class

[sudden nymph]

Someone doesn’t have to be necessarily evil to be the final block in a hero’s way I guess but that’s extremely rare

[minor ore]

when

[heavy ledge]

never

[uneven tendon]

Probably in the next few chapters

[minor ore]

how

[uneven tendon]

No idea

[sudden nymph]

Premonition man coming soon

[uneven tendon]

I can't wait for Flashback Man to return

[minor ore]

[heavy ledge]

its cos kaato was helping jobin tellin him about josuke and stuff ig, but kaato was obviously going to be on her son's side and not some dirty freeloader

[uneven tendon]

What about Donny Domino?

[heavy ledge]

i never thought she was gonna be a main v

[sudden nymph]

You mean premonition man because let’s be real there is no way he is from a flashback at this point

[uneven tendon]

I remember when Jan used to talk on how Caato will be main villain because she loves her son more than anything and that she'll kill everyone just for that

Even her own family members

[sudden nymph]

He was always there whether we knew it or not guiding the characters

[minor ore]

main villain is Milagro man

[robust ibex]

i have a feeling that flashback man was a placeholder design for a character not yet known for araki at the time that later got a redesign because that image was a fuck long time ago

[minor ore]

screencap this

[uneven tendon]

[hard meteor]

flashback man comeback arc

[uneven tendon]

I also want to see the 2nd branch return

So we can see the ripe New Locacaca

[minor ore]

world's sexiest sailor

[hard meteor]

the "redesign" theory has been debunked over and over

[rain drum]

Josuke be like "move out the way everyone!" before finally putting the beast down like in one of those monster movies

[uneven tendon]

Josuke doesn't recognize anyone as Flashback Man

[hard meteor]

it is simply a character we dont know yet

[uneven tendon]

I have a theory on who Flashback Man is

Milagro Man's creator

[hard meteor]

the arms dealer? would be cool if true

[uneven tendon]

Milagro Man 2, with Josuke and the dead chads

[heavy ledge]

please lets not thirst over dr kira now i have things to do

[uneven tendon]

Ending the money curse once and for all

[sudden nymph]

Premonition man could be a guardian of the corpse. It’s true the ones we have seen do not look human but it’s still possible

[minor ore]

you're welcome

[devout whale]

What was that last panel supposed to mean?

Happily ever after?

[uneven tendon]

That Josuke and Yasuho like each other

And no

Story isn't over

It literally says to be continued

[devout whale]

That is the ever after part

[heavy ledge]

[devout whale]

They make 4 balled babies now

[uneven tendon]

The lack of expression on their faces is disappointing though

[heavy ledge]

that emoij cropping sucked

im gonna redraw that

[uneven tendon]

[heavy ledge]

but its joshu and you instead

[sudden nymph]

To be fair they just went through a lot

[hardy trench]

josuke and yasuho are such a cute couple, especially after that honey buns moment

[hard meteor]

true but there shouldve been a bit more emotion their expressions

[uneven tendon]

Imagine if they kissed instead

[devout whale]

Is go beyond part 8's requiem?

[kind owl]

@devout whale, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

[uneven tendon]

What

[winter spade]

No?

[hard meteor]

dont even compare the two lol

[devout whale]

The last second asspull

[uneven tendon]

There are no Stand arrows in the SBR continuity

And it's not an asspull, it was literally forshadowed in the first chapter

[heavy ledge]

they dont mean stand arrow like requiem

[uneven tendon]

And got a lot of hints towards it

[devout whale]

Yeah last chapter

[sudden nymph]

Go beyond isn’t a asspull there were so many hints for it throughout the part

[devout whale]

Atleast requiem had some buildup

[hard meteor]

its been foreshadowed multiple times in the story

[uneven tendon]

So did Go Beyond

[heavy ledge]

it doesnt matter it was foreshadowed, for more than half a year rai told him he couldnt control it and then suddenly he fairly knows how to it annoyed me a little

[devout whale]

What?

[minor ore]

Josuke doesn't even remember him a few chapters later lol

[minor ore]

sometimes you just need to be made aware of something like that

when it comes to supernatural abilities in fiction

[heavy ledge]

yes but no, he needed yasuho

[uneven tendon]

It reminds of people who claim that Jotaro stopping time is an asspull when it was literally planned from the start

[minor ore]

you can't really dictate what it takes to control that stand ability

[heavy ledge]

now he literally told her "fuck off the way i got this"

[rain drum]

there should've been a bit more*

[uneven tendon]

Because Araki created Star Platinum and The World first

[sudden nymph]

I would argue go beyond was built up more then requiem

[winter spade]

I mean that’s how discovering new abilities works in jojo

[devout whale]

Still an asspull if the reader doesn't know

[hardy trench]

imagine if we never get anything on flashback man, bling baby, etc.

[winter spade]

It’s about execution and manipulation of that ability

[uneven tendon]

That's not how it works

[minor ore]

Yes, its foreshadowed over and over and even in the first chapter

[devout whale]

What was go beyond's build up? Mamezuku spin rant?

[uneven tendon]

That's not an ass pull

[heavy ledge]

it would have been 20 times better if he came and told her yasuho to help him channel go beyond, the last panel would even made more sense.

[minor ore]

in the first chapter Yasuho takes a photo of Josuke's shoulder and the birthmark vanishes in the picture on her phone like it isnt actually there

[sudden nymph]

Rai talked about it all the way in brain storm

[minor ore]

and only appears on a bubble

[heavy ledge]

excuse my grammar skills

[winter spade]

Perhaps but it is josuke we’re talking about

[devout whale]

Right before he used it so not much of a build up

[hard meteor]

no it when rai points out josukes bubble is rotating string in the urban gorilla arc,aslo in chapter when it appeared in yasuhos phone

[kind owl]

@hard meteor, Your Hamon Rank is now level 47 !

[uneven tendon]

[sudden nymph]

Brain storm was way before wonder of u

[uneven tendon]

I like how reveals are now considered ass pulls

[devout whale]

Oh you mean that rock worm?

[uneven tendon]

Rock worm?

[winter spade]

Doremi?

[minor ore]

he isn't baiting, he just isnt used to a story told through visuals and a series of sorta "unreliable narrators"

[uneven tendon]

Doremi was a fucking dog tank

[hardy trench]

there is a fun detail in the geb fight, where the water seemed to bend a bit with a time warp effect, indicating jotaro unconsciously used time stop for a milisecond

[minor ore]

isnt that just in the anime?

[sudden nymph]

If you are talking about the rock animal yes

[winter spade]

I believe so

Might be wrong

[heavy ledge]

yea im talking about josuke and his incapability of controlling go beyond until that one second he told her to move. but i think if he asked her to channel it one more time it would be a better ending for the chapter, it wouldnt have felt... cold?

[hardy trench]

yes

but its still a crazy detail too me

[devout whale]

I remember that part. Rai said something about bubbles being strings. Don't know how that is related to go beyond

[winter spade]

It is indeed cool

[hardy trench]

just watch when part 7 gets announced, mfs be saying that johnny could use tusk act 4 all along

[minor ore]

Go Beyond are spin bubbles

[sudden nymph]

Maybe you should read jojolion again I think you either speed read or just don’t pay attention

[devout whale]

Interdimensional bubbles?

[uneven tendon]

The normal bubbles are also Spin bubbles

[minor ore]

there are other instances of time stop foreshadowing in the part 3 manga that dont happen during GEB though

[uneven tendon]

No

[hardy trench]

like?

[lavish hazel]

Is the new chapter out

[uneven tendon]

Yes

[hard meteor]

yes

[lavish hazel]

Where do I read it

[rugged stream]

Its so fucking obvious when you reread the part. You see all the hints then

[lavish hazel]

Oh my god.

Guys

Plz

[devout whale]

Go beyond is not really explained at all

[uneven tendon]

It was

[minor ore]

Dio discovered he could stop time in the same exact way Jotaro test Star platinum's speed in chapter 1

[uneven tendon]

We have quite a bit of info on it, actually

[minor ore]

they both catch bullets

[sudden nymph]

Take my advice and read jojolion again

[lavish hazel]

Any idea where I can read the new chapter?

[devout whale]

Okay

[uneven tendon]

Check the pins

[hard meteor]

its pinned

[lavish hazel]

Cuz it’s not on

[hardy trench]

I dont even remember how dio got his timestop anymore

[lavish hazel]

Thanks bro

[minor ore]

and after that there's multiple arcs Jotaro solves with super speed that allows him to act so quickly no one notices

[minor ore]

he had his men turn a shotgun on him

[rugged stream]

How? Bubble technically doesn't exist so it can go unseen by literally everything and every force imaginable

[minor ore]

and went to test The World's speed and realized time was stopped

[rugged stream]

That it

[hard meteor]

one of his servants shoots the world as a test and timestop activates

[rugged stream]

Fuck wrong @

[uneven tendon]

It's fine

[devout whale]

Joshu is confirmed dead/ amputated right?

[minor ore]

the bubble does not exist in our world

[uneven tendon]

Joshu is alive lol

And there's no reason for him to die

[hardy trench]

its literally been confirmed he is just gravely injured

[devout whale]

How do they see it then? Where does it exist?

[hard meteor]

no?? hes just injured

[minor ore]

they can't see it

[winter spade]

^

He didn’t lose his arm fully either

[rugged stream]

no

[devout whale]

Jojo controls it somewhat

[rugged stream]

Between planes. Also no one can see it

[winter spade]

So maybe it could be saved and somewhat functional or he could get a prosthetic if he had the rest of it amputated?

[uneven tendon]

He doesn't

He can create them at will, but not control them

[minor ore]

he can't control it, i can do his best to aim it though

he can try

[winter spade]

Not like his other bubbles anyways

[devout whale]

He angles his shoulder to strike the doctor

[uneven tendon]

But he also needed to use Soft and Wet in order for it to hit Wonder of U

[rugged stream]

He can aim it and try to get it in the general direction he wants it to but he really can't

[kind owl]

@rugged stream, Your Hamon Rank is now level 9 !

[sudden nymph]

I don’t think you can actually see it. Araki just made it so that we can see it because that would be incredibly confusing

[devout whale]

So he knows the trajectory it is going to take

[winter spade]

He can just either try to aim it at something that’s not gonna move away or be unpredictable to hit or use paisley park to aim it

[minor ore]

yeah he knows that at least

it comes from his birthmark

[winter spade]

Very basically

With a margin of error for exactly how it’s gonna move

[uneven tendon]

There's one thing I don't get though, and nobody answered it yet

How is the curse over when one exchange can't permanently cure the rock disease

[minor ore]

idk

[devout whale]

Fruit power

[uneven tendon]

Maybe that's one of the ways they plan to continue Jojolion?

[rugged stream]

idk. Maybe we'll get info on that later

[uneven tendon]

With that 2nd branch

Which should have fully ripe New Locacacas

[devout whale]

The mutant plant is dead right?

[hard meteor]

dont know honestly

[uneven tendon]

Mutant plant?

[devout whale]

Or will they bring it back to life?

[winter spade]

Well if Tsurugi had a kid when he got older, it’s possible that he wouldn’t pass on the disease anymore to his firstborn

Although idk if that’s true

[devout whale]

Mutant fruit

[uneven tendon]

It's not mutant fruit though

[devout whale]

It is a mutated version of the original. They literally call it the new rokakaka

[uneven tendon]

I think it will be a similar thing to Jesus' corpse being stolen again after Valentine was defeated

It's not mutated, it's a new version

[devout whale]

The graft mutated it

[heavy ledge]

mutant ig is a good term

[lavish hazel]

Man I’m sad now 🙁

[sudden nymph]

I’m predicting it right here and now flashback man is a guardian of the corpse

[crisp vigil]

flashback man is the best character

[delicate burrow]

flashback man is actually tooru lmao

[minor ore]

flashback man is actually early design ojiro

[sudden nymph]

Please tell me you are joking

[minor ore]

trust me

i am an expert in jojo certified 100%

[sudden nymph]

I’m pretty sure the flashback starts after he met ojiro

[hard meteor]

no flashback man is clearly yoshikage kira with a wig

[sudden nymph]

True!

[minor ore]

Josuke is so powerful he could flashback through araki's memories.

He is outerversal

[crisp vigil]

flashback man is dio guys

he’s back

[uneven tendon]

Nah, I think that Flashback Man is actually Josho

Norisuke's father

[summer nova]

what if flashback man is ojiro when he was younger

[errant tiger]

what if flashback man is josukes father 😮

[uneven tendon]

Which one?

[errant tiger]

not kiras

our josukes

[uneven tendon]

Josefumi?

[errant tiger]

yea

[brittle perch]

where can i read 108?

[uneven tendon]

He looked nothing like him

[crisp vigil]

pins my guy

[errant tiger]

well

[lavish hazel]

Wdym flashback man 🤔

[errant tiger]

have we ever seen

josefumis father

to begin with

[minor ore]

It would be nice to have something Dio related this part because that would mean there's no part where Dio didn't appear.

[errant tiger]

XD

[minor ore]

Although I guess Chapter 99 kinda counts

[uneven tendon]

No, but it's unlikely it's Sadafumi

[viscid valve]

guys guys it ok

what if both josuke and wou inside norisuke were pmk illusions 😃

[rugged pilot]

Is the new chapter out?

[uneven tendon]

Yes

[crisp vigil]

omg yes

[mossy sinew]

Yea, check pins

[lavish hazel]

Wdym

[viscid valve]

haha that would explain why its so abrupt and painful and nonsensical and oh god

[minor ore]

he's only mentioned in 2

[minor ore]

Flashbacked also.

[lavish hazel]

What’s pmk ☠️

[minor ore]

I dont recall

[viscid valve]

paper moon king

[lavish hazel]

Ohhh

HOLD ON

[crisp vigil]

😐

[uneven tendon]

Dio was mentioned or referenced in every part

[viscid valve]

paper moon king is my last line of copium

[lavish hazel]

Why would he use it against the family tho

[minor ore]

Just read 108 so hi guys

[lavish hazel]

Tooru turns into a parasite and posses the child

[mossy sinew]

Yea I'm convinced that Josuke is an Illusion or something because no way he can get from the Hospital to the Higashikata Estate in Such a Short period of time

[viscid valve]

yea and the way its just so abrupt

and that he shows up immediately as yasuho notices wou

[mossy sinew]

And he also didn't have any wound and wore his sailor outfit

[sudden nymph]

What about part 8

[minor ore]

Yasuho said she did in 5 minutes

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 21 !

[viscid valve]

tsurugi might have lost control over his stand after the equivalent exchange

[kind owl]

@viscid valve, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

[viscid valve]

losing control of your stand is also something that happens in the flashforward but with joshu

[minor ore]

Or if somehow the exchange benefited Tooru

[mossy sinew]

Yea but him just showing up so abruptely is still kinda odd

[viscid valve]

look while im sure the next 5-6 chapters are gonna tie everything together nicely i am still coping with how bad this chapter was

[cunning vapor]

This chapter feels rushed because 2 different curses were resolved, and 2 major deaths and 2 power boosts all happened within 38 pages lol

[minor ore]

Damn

Yeah after this chapter it really feels like we are coming to an end and there are still so many questions yet to be answered, I hope that the ending isnt just a rush of tying loose ends

Who just read the newest chapter?

[humble arrow]

Does anyone have the new chap link

[mossy sinew]

Check pins

[cunning vapor]

This would’ve been so much better if only the family curse was broken, and the calamity that affects the whole world was expanded upon which also builds tooru more as a character, which is also a form of curse

[kind owl]

@cunning vapor, Your Hamon Rank is now level 12 !

[humble arrow]

Tysm

[minor ore]

I have a theory on how Josuke got to the higashikata estate

[minor ore]

^ fr

[minor ore]

how

[lavish hazel]

Yeah but how would he control pmk

[fast orchid]

Why don’t they just make up a different jojo instead of using josuke again?

[minor ore]

If you all remember, Josuke was in the hospital and there we can see he meets up with Holy Kujo

[sharp ruin]

Y’all know when 108 comes out?

[lavish hazel]

Especially since stands are reflections of soul

[viscid valve]

soft & wet act 3

[cunning vapor]

Like idk why a new form of curse, which is the never-ending calamity is introduced but then gets killed off by josuke right after

[minor ore]

tomorrow

What if? Holy has a stand in which can teleport people

Damn did the entire baiting squad join in whats with all the green names

Idk maybe some sort of combined stand of sorts

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[minor ore]

oh yeah?

[sharp ruin]

Sweet thanks

[minor ore]

that would be out of nowhere not gonna lie

well maybe not

[fast orchid]

?

[mossy sinew]

My theory is that the Josuke at the end of the chapter is an Illusion created by WoU who acts as the 'final Calamity'

[minor ore]

But at least it makes sense on how Josuke got to the house very fast

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[mossy sinew]

They are not the same Josuke

[cunning vapor]

It’s a different jojo, josuke just has the same name as josuke 4. Jonathan is also the same as johnny

[minor ore]

teleporting would be random ability to gain just for convenience though

Indeed

But that’s what I’m thinking

[minor ore]

Josuke can run pretty fast

lmao

[fast orchid]

Dang can’t they just come up with different names lol

[minor ore]

Or you know, maybe Josuke just normally approached the household because he knows where it's located.

[minor ore]

Araki is paying homage to Part 4

[minor ore]

Are you like, blind

[mossy sinew]

Bruh just read the part

[fast orchid]

Understandable

[minor ore]

Did you not read part 7

[fast orchid]

Nope

I’m not gonna read it

[minor ore]

[fast orchid]

Gonna wait for the anime lol

[viscid valve]

108 josuke isnt real 108 josuke isnt real 108 josuke isnt real he cant hurt me

[minor ore]

but

Then why come here to begin with

[mossy sinew]

Bruh why

[cunning vapor]

🙏

[fast orchid]

To ask the question

[minor ore]

And talk about something you have no understanding of because you won't read a part before it

[fast orchid]

I enjoy anime more

[minor ore]

Kash do you know what happens at the end of part 6

[fast orchid]

Nope

[minor ore]

If not avoid parts 7 and 8

[fast orchid]

Also waiting for the anime lol

[minor ore]

yeah I didn't read it either

[fast orchid]

Hmm sure

[brave silo]

Imagine reading

[fast orchid]

Made in heaven eh

[fast orchid]

Lol

[viscid valve]

we will all be living vastly different lives by the time the jojolion anime comes out

crazy

[fast orchid]

Dang true

[brave silo]

Anyways Jojolion and SBR>>>the fuck is the rest of jojo lol

[minor ore]

by the time jojolion is animated we might have a main villain

[fast orchid]

Arent you not allowed to curse in this server or something?

[minor ore]

I'll be old enough to marry and have a whole established and functioning family with a proper adult job by the time JoJolion comes out.

[brave silo]

don't know but i still do and couldn't care less

[mossy sinew]

We have/had bruh

[viscid valve]

lol i remember like ch 90 discussion in this channel and someone was saying jjl will be so long the anime will catch up 💀

[humble arrow]

[fast orchid]

I got muted for 4 days just because I said lol in venting

[minor ore]

Maybe I'll start a YouTube channel by the time Part 7 comes out so I can make shitty reaction videos and get more money than a fast food worker

[fast orchid]

I had to do every single mod to get unmuted

[humble arrow]

Do you think jojolion is ending..

[cunning vapor]

No

[humble arrow]

Like in a few chapters

[cunning vapor]

No

[humble arrow]

Idk the curse is broken so

[lavish hazel]

Idk who said sumn about the chance of what happened with kira and josefumi thing repeating with tsurugi and tooru but that wouldn’t make sense would it? I thought their stands combined cuz of that location thing?

[kind owl]

@lavish hazel, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

[mossy sinew]

Why did you say lol in Venting ??

[cunning vapor]

Holly

Flash forward

[viscid valve]

we need a pin for people asking if jojolion is ending

[fast orchid]

I pressed wrong chat by accident

[queen hill]

jojolion is never ending

[mossy sinew]

Ah makes sense

[queen hill]

part 9 is jojolion sequel

totally not emporios part

[brave silo]

Part 9 is already out, we just don't know

[minor ore]

Well, the story is about breaking a curse, but it can be interpreted in different ways. Similarly to the standing up thing of SBR.

[humble arrow]

Fair

[minor ore]

Anyway, JoJolion ending by chapter 150 i wont elaborate

[cunning vapor]

No 130

[queen hill]

bro imagine making a fully fledged story about standing up

LOL

[humble arrow]

Hey I’m not complaining it means more part 8

[rugged turret]

WTFFFF

[queen hill]

part 8 ova

[rugged turret]

NO PLSSS

JOBIN I NEED YOU

[queen hill]

jobin ova

[humble arrow]

Is go beyond a reference to requiem

[queen hill]

jobin dies to hairspray 4k hd animated 120fps

[minor ore]

No.

[queen hill]

NO NOT REQUIEM AGAIN

[minor ore]

It's simply a Stand upgrade.

[humble arrow]

Ah ok

[queen hill]

soft and wet requiem is just killer queen

WAIT

[minor ore]

I hate requiems ngl

[brave silo]

part 8 movie adaptation compressed in 60 minutes

[queen hill]

SOFT AND WET IS LITERALLY JUST STRAY CAT

[minor ore]

[queen hill]

BRO

[minor ore]

Killer Queen in Part 8 is a homage to Stray Cat.

[brave silo]

[minor ore]

Like straight up

[queen hill]

stray cat alternate universe

[barren mortar]

Part 9: Baoh

[queen hill]

if pucci didnt reset the universe we wouldnt have the beautiful first panel of jojolion

[lavish hazel]

So is rai dead

[uneven tendon]

What

[uneven tendon]

Yes

[queen hill]

totally not a yashuo simp

[lavish hazel]

LMAO

[lavish hazel]

What

[uneven tendon]

It still would've happened without Pucci resetting the universe

[lavish hazel]

What does pucci have anything to do with this

[uneven tendon]

Because it's a different continuity

[lavish hazel]

Yeah 7-8 are not related

To whatever happened in 1-6

[queen hill]

but araki wouldnt have had the idea of branching off to another universe if part 6 didnt happen

[sage crag]

Ok I'm not pissed anymore
also jojolion is a completely different universe

[queen hill]

guys, tooru has blue lipstick in the coloured manga, and so does johnny

[lavish hazel]

Your pfp is sick

[queen hill]

tooru supremacy

[uneven tendon]

And?

[sage crag]

he firstly wanted to sbr to be its own thing

[zenith tangle]

Not really because steel ball run was supposed to be a different series and not a jojos bizarre adventure

[uneven tendon]

Those are not canon

Nah

[minor ore]

Colours =/ Araki

[uneven tendon]

It was always meant to be the 7th part of Jojo

[queen hill]

its just a joke bro..

[brave silo]

colours suck anyways

[barren mortar]

No jokes. Just JoJo

[queen hill]

agree

[brave silo]

especially in jojolion

[queen hill]

this is why i never color my drawings

[minor ore]

You make a joke here 50% of people believe it and make theories

[lavish hazel]

I actually can’t imagine tooru In colours

[queen hill]

thats just them having a skill issue

[rugged turret]

Depends on how the color is applied

[queen hill]

i suck at colouring

[rugged turret]

Softer lighter look better

[brave silo]

nah fuck em colours

[queen hill]

fuck colors, black n white supremacy forever

if jojolion isnt animated in black and white im gonna riot

[minor ore]

Part 6 looked quite nice colour wise imo but I prefer black and white

[rugged turret]

Tonight

[queen hill]

yeah

[uneven tendon]

Hell yeah

[rugged turret]

I think 5 did too

[minor ore]

I like how the author’s notes for the latest chapter was about bread

[queen hill]

i like the mangas colours more but red fugo...

[nocturne whale]

Nah

Better

2.0

[minor ore]

the white hair on fugo just not right

[uneven tendon]

[nocturne whale]

Stray Cat requiem

[queen hill]

jojolions lore is about obtaining the bread

[viscid valve]

ngl colored manga is only good for when the panels are hard to discern

[minor ore]

TRUE

[viscid valve]

happened a lot in part 6 and 7

[queen hill]

coloured manga ruined tooru's jacket

[brave silo]

idk just read lol

[delicate burrow]

hey guys

check out my new pfp

[minor ore]

i wish to unsee coloured tooru

B&W manga supremacy

[viscid valve]

shueisha straight up doesnt understand the intricacies of tooru fashion

[queen hill]

not getting the coloured manga

[uneven tendon]

Only when you are on phones, because that's why they were created

[queen hill]

tooru created drip

[uneven tendon]

But I managed to read in black and white fine on my phone

[delicate burrow]

me too ngl

[queen hill]

when shueisha ruins tooru's colour scheme

[delicate burrow]

But it was hard to adapt

[heavy ledge]

Im jelly of your nitro

[minor ore]

I’ve been updating my pfp for the latest chapters of JJL

Last month it was Kaato

[delicate burrow]

pog

i made new one for tooru

[queen hill]

wearing kaato pfp for a month

seems like a simp

[rugged turret]

Yeah that was bad

[minor ore]

But mommy milkers tho

I cant imagine panels like when Mamezuku unravels coloured at all

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

[rugged turret]

But blue giorno

[queen hill]

blue giorno is god

but pink also cool

[minor ore]

Fuck you pink Giorno is better

[queen hill]

[queen hill]

fuck you in general

[viscid valve]

black giorno supremacy

[delicate burrow]

idk blue giorno kinda based

[minor ore]

Fuck YOU in general

[delicate burrow]

Really nice looking

[queen hill]

BRO WHY AM I GETTING RECCOMENDED THE ''what does roblox teach you anyways || send to ur parents'' VIDEOS

[minor ore]

Ok but, blue or pink Anasui?

[queen hill]

i dont know man..

[delicate burrow]

hmm maybe blue

[queen hill]

i dont fucking care anyway

[delicate burrow]

idk looks nice

[minor ore]

Blue

[viscid valve]

pink so he can look more like his father from part 5

[barren mortar]

Dude, just show your parents. They won't be mad

[minor ore]

Pink is too close to Diavolo

[minor ore]

???

[queen hill]

i wonder if their going to make anasui a woman first, or their just gonna make him a man straight up from the start

[minor ore]

[delicate burrow]

Not that much imo dia has those green spots

[queen hill]

bro it would be funny for the anime onlys

[minor ore]

Probably a woman then a man

[mossy sinew]

Probably a man

[queen hill]

they just see anasui being a man

then they read the manga

[viscid valve]

i hope the anime keeps anasui lesbian

[queen hill]

''wait he was a woman?''

[barren mortar]

Will Funny Valentine be fat at first in the anime?

[queen hill]

anasui doesnt genderbent

[queen hill]

probably, i hope so

[mossy sinew]

Anasui is not lesbian tho

[minor ore]

I’d imagine Anasui would be a woman for his first reveal at the very end of an episode the change him to a man in the next

[queen hill]

wouldnt that be confusing

[minor ore]

Yes that’s the point

[minor ore]

I didnt even think about this lmao maybe not since for part 3 they used stand designs from later in the manga

[viscid valve]

animate him genderbending on the spot

[queen hill]

since it was never explained how he just changes genders

[minor ore]

rather than developing them over time

[barren mortar]

It's better if we first see a female, but then when he shows up as an explicit male, they just say, "Nope, dude!"

[queen hill]

just him cutting his boobs off and putting on the chad chin

''jolyne, i dont want to be lesbian so ill change genders!!'

[minor ore]

Or imagine he’s a female, the camera cuts away and when it goes back to him he’s a male

I think that would be funny

[mossy sinew]

Anasui will probably stay a man in the Anime because the female Version was only seen in like 2 panels and then retconned later

[barren mortar]

I understand in DiU anime, they had Tamami and Hazamada short from the get-go

[queen hill]

yeah but their probably gonna make him a man first

[minor ore]

Yeah probably but I’d like to see them do that just to fuck with viewers lmao

tall hazamada so cursed when you go back

[minor ore]

TRUE

[queen hill]

DP: we do a little trolling

[minor ore]

Yes

[queen hill]

i dont think araki would approve of that

[minor ore]

But imagine, the episode is wrapping up, we go into Burning Down the House, where we see Weather Report and Anasui for the first time, and he’s a girl, next episode we see them, he’s a dude

how tf is Joshu gonna have his arm fixed for the flashforward

i guess other people can just "not really be dead" but you cant just suddenly have an arm back

[minor ore]

Idk some fuckery with Paper Moon King x Wonder Of U

[queen hill]

he just grabs a random guy, forces him to eat the new rokakaka with him, and he loses his baby arm

[kind owl]

@queen hill, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !

[queen hill]

knowing joshu

[minor ore]

But we’re all out of fruit and the plant was destroyed

[queen hill]

oh well

joshu has to resort to some sort of surgery

[minor ore]

Robot arm

[queen hill]

or paper moon king x wou fuckery as you described it

[minor ore]

Yes

Fuck it; German Science arm

:O

[queen hill]

stroheim part 8

[minor ore]

i really wish they didnt kill johny off

[queen hill]

but the part would end as soon as wou showed up

[minor ore]

Well he would have died of old age by the time of part 8 anyway

[queen hill]

and that

also i dont think tusk act 4 would be strong at his age

[uneven tendon]

Johnny's death was good

[queen hill]

he saved who he loved

[uneven tendon]

Tusk Act 4 needs the horse to be healthy, not necessarily the user

[hard meteor]

Yes he had a good death that was true to his character

[minor ore]

No I dont want him as a character but I didnt like seeing him die for basically no addition to the plot

[uneven tendon]

Norisuke 1 was 68 but still got to 2nd place

[minor ore]

Yeah I feel like Johnny’s death was a good way of ending his character

[uneven tendon]

What do you mean by no addition?

It adds quite a lot, in fact

And he's most likely the saint of Morioh

[queen hill]

didnt he cause the wall eyes? im forgetting alot rn

[minor ore]

Yeah

It suggests so

[hard meteor]

It’s implied yeah

[minor ore]

But they didnt have to bonk him with a boulder is what im saying

[uneven tendon]

We don't know for certain, but most likely

[rugged turret]

Never

Ever

[minor ore]

Well we have no idea how many chapters are left so we might see the wall eyes again

[queen hill]

well thats the cause of like, all the stands since theres no proof that the stand arrow exists

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 7 !

[minor ore]

Just so the wall eyes have some explanation

[uneven tendon]

A lot of things need explanations

[uneven tendon]

True af

[minor ore]

I would have to disagree when it comes to JoJo especially part 8

[rugged turret]

I wouldn’t t get my hopes up for explanations on everything tbh

[viscid valve]

i cant believe johnny gained sainthood by learning how to walk

[rugged turret]

But I’m hopeful

[uneven tendon]

I think that in the following chapter we'll find out that the curse isn't actually over, considering how the exchanges were shown to work

[minor ore]

The way I see it, the only stand that stand arrow unlocked in the SBR universe was Diego’s The World lmao

[uneven tendon]

And we'll chase down the 2nd branch that Josefumi and Kira had

[rugged turret]

Maybe rock human genocide

That’s the new curse

[uneven tendon]

We don't know if a Stand arrow let alt Diego unlock THE WORLD

[rugged turret]

For humans to live they must die

[uneven tendon]

I don't think an entire species should be killed off

[heavy ledge]

are people mad because ||yasuho is narrating the story and she said "jojolion"? tf?||

[queen hill]

i like rock humans

[rugged turret]

I don’t either but I don’t think they can coexist with humans

[uneven tendon]

Some rock humans were shown to not have been inherently evil

But become bad after circumstances

[queen hill]

yashuo is telling a bedtime story to josuke and yashuo's children

[rugged turret]

Yes some

[minor ore]

Is this the second direct 4th Wall Break in JoJo?

First being Wheel Of Fortune

[heavy ledge]

tf is wrong with people

[uneven tendon]

Nah

[minor ore]

When else

[rugged turret]

Circumstances that humans brought

[heavy ledge]

we knew she was narrating since day 1

aaa past participleee

[minor ore]

this didnt click in my brain until you said it

[rugged turret]

I saw a funny on Reddit

[minor ore]

she said the thing

[rugged turret]

“What are we, some kinda jojolion?”

[queen hill]

still waiting for lions to show up in jojolion

[rugged turret]

Yeah but to say the title is meta

[minor ore]

Watch JJL well end with Josuke and Yasuho will go on a date to the zoo and see a lion and we will finally see the Jojo Lion lmao

[heavy ledge]

According to a reliable japanese blog "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Part 8 - Jojolion" by Hirohiko Araki there will be no lions in the ending

[minor ore]

cant belive araki didnt add a lion when he drew all those animals for that one chapter

[queen hill]

lion with the star birthmark

[heavy ledge]

what does meta mean

[queen hill]

why did it reply to you

dumbass discord

[heavy ledge]

because im great

[minor ore]

Lowkey I would love this

[minor ore]

Oh we’re you trying to reply to me?

[queen hill]

yeah

lion with the star birthmark

[minor ore]

Gotcha

[molten crane]

the lion willl be way greater

[rugged turret]

Like breaking the 4th wall

[heavy ledge]

oh

it didnt feel weird to me, i knew she was narrating

[queen hill]

i mean knowing araki we will get some sort of fusion with tooru

[heavy ledge]

she might be even drawing the manga

idk

[minor ore]

Also I’m willing to bet part 9 will have Spin in it, with it being the last part of the Spin Trilogy

[queen hill]

araki is yashuo on a really realistic human suit

[heavy ledge]

it doesnt feel odd

[rugged turret]

It’s like if Joseph said in part 3 “we stardust crusaders have finally won”

[heavy ledge]

its not like a "rey skywalker" type of shit

[rugged turret]

But p8 is a lot more serious in tone than 3 so it wouldn’t have been a big deal

[queen hill]

yeah but dont they call themselves the stardust crusaders?

or just crusaders in general

[rugged turret]

I don’t have a real problem with it but I can see why ppl do

[queen hill]

i also dont, i just want to see jojolion animated

[minor ore]

In the Wheel Of Fortune fight the stand user says, "Part 3 ends here!"

[rugged turret]

Did they? I don’t remember, if they did

[queen hill]

or maybe joseph made the name up on the spot

knowing that old bastard

[rugged turret]

P3 was a lot less serious so I don’t think ppl cared

[minor ore]

Yeah ofc

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

[rugged turret]

and no internet back then lol

[queen hill]

imagine a car just shows up with a skinny ass arm coming out and says ''part 8 ends here!'' and the part ends

[heavy ledge]

idk man im reading some stuff of ppl complaining that make 0 sense and im getting mad

[minor ore]

Joshu baby hand

[rugged turret]

Lmaooo

[queen hill]

joshu from the future

[rugged turret]

Will his arm grow as he ages? Or will it just stay a baby hand forever

[queen hill]

probably will grow up but will still be unproportionate, probably

[rugged turret]

I know what u mean and it’s best to just ignore it tbh you’ll only get angrier

[rugged turret]

That’s a sad existence

[queen hill]

i would just amputate it on the spot

[soft raptor]

Chapter is out

[kind owl]

@soft raptor, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

[heavy ledge]

yea but these ppl were defending jojolion with their life and now they out of nowhere seem to forget how much they loved it 5 hours ago because they saw something they didnt like, idk

[queen hill]

bipolars, their everywhere

[minor ore]

I hope we get a outro ark like in part 5, where we get something with Kira and Josefumi

[rugged turret]

I got my fill of that when AOT final chapter came out

[queen hill]

i'd rather have a fully fledged ova

[rugged turret]

Shit went from “peak fiction” to garbage in their eyes lmaooo

[queen hill]

i dont care about manga endings lmao

[minor ore]

I would really like this but they shouldnt cut it as sudden as they did with sleeping slaves arc

[soft raptor]

It's not over yet

[hard meteor]

^

[soft raptor]

Idk why people are jumping the gun

[heavy ledge]

i dont know attack on titan so i cant say anything about it

[minor ore]

It was such a quick jump back to present and then the part just ended, thats one of my biggest gripes with part 5

[rugged turret]

If only more could be like you

[heavy ledge]

but in this case the part hasnt even ended

[soft raptor]

Part 5 ending sucks

[minor ore]

yeah

[rugged turret]

I liked it

[queen hill]

are we talking about the actual ending or the sleeping slaves arc ending

[soft raptor]

Good for you

[rugged turret]

It was different but yeah

[minor ore]

sleeping slaves

[soft raptor]

From the Colosseum onwards for me

[rugged turret]

Bad for you

[queen hill]

i wish giorno was more explored

[minor ore]

i mean the fight is pretty underwhelming but i enjoyed the chase

[soft raptor]

Didn't like any of that stuff

[minor ore]

in what way

[queen hill]

like, how he changed the whole mafia from trafficking drugs to whatever he wanted to do

[minor ore]

i like part 5 a lot until the end

i just really hate how the arrow rejected king crimson, flew to giorno and all of a sudden part is over

[minor ore]

oh yeah I do agree, I wish it wasnt open-ended

[queen hill]

they shouldve said ''oh giorno found out a way to make money because hes a smartass teenager''

[minor ore]

King Crimson wasn't rejected by the arrow, Bruno ended the Requiem effect and the arrow slipped through his fingers as he was torn back toward his body

[sage crag]

honestly I am pretty fine with this arc being the end of Jojolion

[minor ore]

lmao what

[queen hill]

isnt that what gangs are supposed to do? money??

[minor ore]

he very specifically isn't in it for the money

[queen hill]

but it would be nice to have some cash for whenever he needs it

[minor ore]

he has no problem with money just money via drugs

he clearly doesnt have the most morals, look at 7-page muda

[queen hill]

giorno secretly traveled to part 8 universe and created the rokakaka cartel

and turns into tamaki

[minor ore]

to be fair, that man deserved what he got

giorno is head of rock humans confirmed

[queen hill]

he did torture multiple people mercilessly

[minor ore]

and drove people to suicide

and melted a ton of people with his stand

[queen hill]

yeah, he deserved it

[minor ore]

yeah but if youre making the argument that giorno doesnt care for money, then he would have simply incapacitated him

[queen hill]

i wish his stand was like vitamin c, whenever the user died everything the stand did was undone.

[minor ore]

what do those two things have to do with each other

[silent igloo]

Who else thinks Jojolion got worse in the past 2 chapters

[minor ore]

not me

[queen hill]

why do i have to have bad wifi on my tablet while having a zoom call

[hard meteor]

not me

[minor ore]

who would kill someone but would refuse to make money from a gang

[queen hill]

not me

[hard meteor]

last chapter was fine and even with this one its decent

[minor ore]

he just wants the drugs regulated

not sold to kids

this is what im saying

gangs make money elsewhere though

it isnt just drugs

[queen hill]

giorno doesnt want kids to do drugs

[minor ore]

you said this tho

[silent igloo]

Idk it’s just like kaato just appeared and killed the antagonist when she wasn’t in many chapters and ends the part out of no where it feels a lil wack but it’s jojo ig

[minor ore]

yes he isnt

[heavy ledge]

"ends the part"?

[minor ore]

this isnt the end

[queen hill]

it hasnt even ended

[silent igloo]

It’s close isn’t it

[queen hill]

he ate a new rokakaka that wasnt ripe

and the rokakaka acts ''better'' with rock humans

and you guessed it

he is a rock human

[heavy ledge]

i can accept you say that about kei but not about kaato

[hard meteor]

it isnt,almost nothing has been answered

[minor ore]

what?

Tsurugi?

[sinful bramble]

These chapters were pretty great

[queen hill]

tooru

[minor ore]

what does that have to do with anything

[queen hill]

im just saying

something wacky will happen

[minor ore]

but he turned to dust

[queen hill]

i mean if tooru doesnt die then im happy im just saying

[inland ferry]

Mega copium

[royal wing]

i'm 99% sure he's dead

[hard meteor]

tooru died

[queen hill]

tsurugi suddenly inhales tooru like if he was cocaine and steals wonder of u from him

[hard meteor]

but something will likely occur with tsurugi

[queen hill]

tsurugi will most likely get something from tooru

[heavy ledge]

Tsurugi is now tooru

[royal wing]

he did the wu tomoki challenge

[queen hill]

yes.

tooru learns how to whip n' naenae

[heavy ledge]

That wasp and that speech though...😭

[viscid valve]

who would win?
a. the entire jojolion fan community
b. paper froge

[queen hill]

im rooting for the frog

[royal wing]

b

[minor ore]

The body of Tooru got turned to dust but the chapter intentionally didnt describe any actual effects of the exchange

So I could see it going either way with the whole Tooru alive idea

[queen hill]

do you think the entire jojolion fan community could win against wonder of u

[summer nova]

[heavy ledge]

The entire jjl fandom couldnt even win against a baby

[minor ore]

we couldnt beat the sun as a community

[queen hill]

but i mean we know wou's weakness

just attack the user

[minor ore]

50% are so dumb it would drive the rest to suicide

[crisp vigil]

joshu tried that

[viscid valve]

1 billion lions vs tooru

[mossy sinew]

1 trillion lions could tho

[queen hill]

no because their all pursuing tooru and they would all die because of the calamity

[minor ore]

i mean

[queen hill]

a literal tsar bomba drops on the mfs

[minor ore]

they cant see stands

[queen hill]

yeah but tooru is there isnt he so they would be going against him

[kind owl]

@queen hill, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

[viscid valve]

ok but how many lions could the calamity kill at once

[queen hill]

he resembles a human

[minor ore]

yeah i forgot lmao

[crisp vigil]

infinite lions 😎😎

[viscid valve]

omg ive figured out jojo lion

[queen hill]

i mean if tooru pulls out a way to kill them in one swoop then thats how they die

[heavy ledge]

Im declaring war against jojolion fans thats it

[queen hill]

dont mess with us jojolion fans, theres like, 3 of us

[heavy ledge]

We are 3 again. They dont deserve jojolion

[minor ore]

Part 8 ends because WoU simply makes a calamity that is a gas that is poisonous to humans and rock humans win GG EZ

[crisp vigil]

if you pronounce lion as “jojo lyin” so like josuke is lying to us soft and wet isn’t real

[heavy ledge]

Are you high

[crisp vigil]

are you crazy

[minor ore]

JoJo be lying

[hard meteor]

part 8 ends when this giga chad shows up

[heavy ledge]

I am

[queen hill]

part 9 is all about flashback man

what if flash back man is emporio

[uneven tendon]

[heavy ledge]

I still gotta draw that mystery flashback forward to the future man fanart

[minor ore]

flashback man is AU pucci and he uses MIH

[crisp vigil]

josuke returns for part 9 as a mentor, flashback man appears then 😳😳

[queen hill]

someone gets their ass kicked

flashback man: prepare for butt sex

[crisp vigil]

good stand

[queen hill]

[Prepare for butt-o sex-o]

[uneven tendon]

He's already in part 8

The kid that was the first victims of Blue Hawaii

[minor ore]

wait fr?

[uneven tendon]

It's a shame that Zyro is a Flashback Man denier

[summer nova]

Interview: Part 4 8's going to be quite long, isn't it?
Araki: No, well, I haven't organized it or anything.
Interviewer: How about little hints? Like when Josuke met his past self the man in his flashback?
Araki: Oh, that's not related.
Interviewer: It's not related!?
Araki: That's just Josuke's memory.

[minor ore]

nvm just remembered now

[queen hill]

chats gone silent

[heavy ledge]

im mad thats why

[hard meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[rugged turret]

Maybe that was a early jobin

Araki changes designs a lot

[minor ore]

Did Kira and Jobin know eachother?

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

[minor ore]

Its pretty much gotta be a Kira memory, I just dont see a Josefumi flashback being used

[hard meteor]

We see jobin in the next chapter after flashback man

And it’s not a redesign this has been debunked multiple times

[rugged turret]

Maybe since they were both involved with the rokakaka

[rugged turret]

Joshu changed plenty too(not as heavy but still) . And if not redesign then it could be any retcon

[rugged turret]

When?

[minor ore]

I dont think it will be Jobin

Even if it is just a redesign, Jobin was painted out as a good guy initially it would be weird to foreshadow him in this way

[queen hill]

flashback man is his own fully fledged character that might appear

[minor ore]

Agree

[queen hill]

i think he will be the one to tell josuke who he really is

or hes the true villain

[minor ore]

No

[sinful bramble]

Being the true villain after 10 years of doing nothing would be stupid

[barren bough]

i really hope that Kaato isn't dead

[minor ore]

Same I lover her

[barren bough]

after all araki brought back, just to kill them, she should be the one to live

[minor ore]

I mean its not entirely impossible he is the villain

Araki could easily make a link by saying these events happened because of him

[sinful bramble]

If she is then it’s gone full circle - she didn’t sacrifice her life for Jobin, but she did for Tsurugi

[minor ore]

Or he was a head of a group etc

[minor ore]

If there is gonna be another villain I’m gonna cry

[queen hill]

i just want it to end with tooru if im being honest

[minor ore]

Yes

[heavy ledge]

they were lovers but it didnt last

[minor ore]

LMAO

I can see another villain

[queen hill]

no just make it end

[minor ore]

This is like Vanilla Ice, super strong stand that weakens the cast right before the main fight

[minor ore]

It’s already 108 chapters no more villains

[queen hill]

tooru died and tsurugi gets wonder of u and does nothing with it like a stupid child. end.

[sinful bramble]

This was the main fight

[queen hill]

bro, tooru literally messes with the universe itself. it bends reality. reminds me of another stand. hm

[sinful bramble]

The penultimate fight of a part (e.g: C-Moon, Wamuu, Vanilla Ice, GD and Oasis) is never as big as this

[minor ore]

so

i mean za hando erased space and just became jobro

[queen hill]

exactly, and tooru's stand is as main villain-y as one can be

[minor ore]

you cant rule out possibilities because powerful stand

[queen hill]

every main villain stand is stupidly powerful

[minor ore]

yes

[sinful bramble]

Everything points towards this being the main fight

[queen hill]

exactly

[minor ore]

yes but it doesnt mean no more villains

[sage crag]

then what is the flashback man? I mean that genuinely, people always say that it's a woo new character but they never prove how it isn't just an early design

[sinful bramble]

Sure, it just means that a potential future villain won’t be as major

[queen hill]

that has already been debunked though.

[minor ore]

Part 69 jojo

yeah which imo would be nice

[sage crag]

😳 😳 🤨 😳 🤣 😫

[queen hill]

if ur adding another villain make it a 5 chapter villain pls

[hard meteor]

It’s ridiculously easy to prove it isn’t a redesign

[sage crag]

I remember there was a video about it, and the guy ended up saying... nothing at all

[minor ore]

villain doesnt equal huge fight

[hard meteor]

If it was an actual character in the part that we knew josuke would’ve been able to recognize them and make the connection but he never does

[minor ore]

i can easily see another villain

thats all im saying

[queen hill]

also i dont think hes a flashback man

since josuke wouldve said ''That man.. ive seen him before!''

[hard meteor]

Exactly

[queen hill]

which is josukes response to every flashback

[sage crag]

even if it isn't how do we know it isn't just a retconned character?

[hard meteor]

Not to mention some of the choices just flat out don’t make any sense

[minor ore]

if hes not a flashback what is he

[queen hill]

deja vu man

[minor ore]

Jesus

[queen hill]

flashforward

[hard meteor]

Araki has brought back multiple minor characters and plot points throughout the series it’s reasonable to assume he would come back too

[queen hill]

''Josuke.. kill the president..''

[hard meteor]

Things not appearing constantly don’t mean they where retconned

[rugged turret]

So I guess the araki forgot meme is retconned too huh

[sage crag]

The rock humans's growing progress already had most of its part retconned, wou armblade apparently did too. He brought a lot of things back, but he also retconned quite a lot in jojolion compared to other parts

[minor ore]

Maybe araki just put him to confuse us

[queen hill]

araki, you bastard

baoh - kars - wonder of u

[viscid valve]

i think flashback man could unironically be plausible were it not for the fact that hes been shown literally almost a decade ago and on one of the first chapters ever

sus

[minor ore]

no way araki would intentionally just do something to confuse us

[queen hill]

maybe araki is just waiting for the perfect moment to reintroduce him

[viscid valve]

araki also retconned his characters designs early on quite often

i still personally believe flashback man is just an early design of someone

[queen hill]

yeah but he isnt a flashback if josuke doesnt know who he is

[hard meteor]

Like i said before the “redesign” theory has been debunked over and over and over

[minor ore]

yeah but it could be a kira memory causing deja vu

[hard meteor]

If it was a character we’ve seen before josuke would’ve made the connection

[minor ore]

I agree

[sage crag]

honestly, why do people give him so much attention?

[queen hill]

hes hot

[sage crag]

true

[viscid valve]

he looks like funny valentine ngl

thats my only thought lol

[minor ore]

If it was a redisgn, araki could have just added a thought bublle coming from Josuke with the original flashback man to show that "oh? hes changed"

[viscid valve]

did that happen with anasui

i genuinely dont remember

[queen hill]

probably

[hard meteor]

Sorta

It’s addressed through ff who gets confused upon seeing him

[queen hill]

or araki wouldve addressed it??

[minor ore]

yeah

[uneven tendon]

Araki achieved his goal of creating an androgynous character that goes beyond the standard definition of genders with Anasui

[viscid valve]

i think the random ocean baby has more of a chance of appearing than flashback man

[minor ore]

I mean with anasui its different, the mc didnt have amnesia and it was a character we see often so it just came across as natural design change

[queen hill]

sexually ambiguous

[uneven tendon]

We simply didn't see Flashback Man again

It's not a design change

[uneven tendon]

No

Anasui had an ex girlfriend and had a massive crush on Jolyne

No indication he was attracted to the other gender

[minor ore]

Im saying its not a redesign

[queen hill]

i think flashback man was just an idea that just didnt work in the end

[uneven tendon]

Why wouldn't it work out?

[queen hill]

i dont know im not araki

[minor ore]

Change of idea

Anything really lmao

[queen hill]

or maybe araki just forgot for real this time

[viscid valve]

i usually hate araki forgot theories but flashback man is literally on ch5 for 2 whole panels

so im inclined to believe it here

[uneven tendon]

Araki brought Ojiro back when he first appeared in the exact same arc as Flashback Man

[sage crag]

I just... what makes people think he isn't just some dude who got retconned?

[viscid valve]

we should have definitely seen him by now

[uneven tendon]

If you don't consider that Ojiro appeared for a bit in the Kira and Josefumi flashbacks, he was gone from the story for 80 chapters

[viscid valve]

at this point hes just a bait meme give it up

[uneven tendon]

How is that a bait meme

[queen hill]

i actually dont think hes even real and think that josuke was just day dreaming

[minor ore]

but... he did appear for a bit in the Kira and Josefumi flashbacks

[queen hill]

of a hot man

[viscid valve]

wait what

pics or it didnt happen

[sage crag]

he did?

[minor ore]

ojiro

[viscid valve]

incomprehensible

[sage crag]

oh

[uneven tendon]

Yes, Ojiro was there

[minor ore]

Yes

Yeah which shows Araki didnt forget him/had some plan for his character

[queen hill]

theres 2 things i love in jojolion

1. tooru

2. flashback man

[minor ore]

Flashback man we seen once 103 chapters ago

Not the same imo

[viscid valve]

average flashback man fan vs average stone ocean baby enjoyer

[uneven tendon]

Considering the amount of stuff that Araki brought back from early Jojolion, I don't see why Flashback Man wouldn't return

Especially one that got a pretty big emphasis

[sage crag]

you can say that Araki retconned a lot too :/

[uneven tendon]

But when did he retcon big plot points?

[viscid valve]

araki never retconned anything this big

[minor ore]

how is flashback man big

[queen hill]

hes never retconned big plot points

[queen hill]

big fat c-