Ehhh
#jojolion
brittle lodge
near cedar
He doesn't interest me in the least
weary sedge
wait rohan i thought milagro man was your favourite stand
brittle lodge
Its tied with Vit C
weary sedge
Vit C is poggers too
brittle lodge
Yes
exotic adder
Would it be correct to say that d4c love train can defeat wonder of u
It can deflect the calamity effects back to tooru
?
uneven tendon
WoU also misdirects bad shit from Tooru
In fact, it's more likely WoU will win because at some point Valentine will probably try to attack Tooru, and he can't kill inside the Love Train dimensional shield
minor ore
WoU Vs LT but it's just a staring contest
uneven tendon
True
minor ore
WoU wins
its a robot
messed around in some random avatar editor and made post-107 joshu (josukek bought him a parrot 
)
made it better 
steel cloud
o
subtle echo
made it better <:joshu_sus:806084972536528926>
that mask is from pay day right
uneven tendon
messed around in some random avatar editor and made post-107 joshu (josukek boug...
My boy
minor ore
that mask is from pay day right
uneven tendon
wind perch
made it better <:joshu_sus:806084972536528926>
joshu conertible
errant crater
Have you all seen my beetles somewhere
brittle lodge
...
wind perch
Have you all seen my beetles somewhere
only an Hercules Beetle
brittle lodge
fr
wind perch
Can we not roleplay please
ok
brittle lodge
rp is cringe
errant crater
Can we not roleplay please
K
viral sable
can we not 🚫🙄 roleplay 🤪👩🍳👩🚒 please 🙏🏻🙏🏻
brittle lodge
....
digital frigate
=/
junior coral
Not only is it against the rules now but it's also really fucking annoying
don't bring that shit in here
brittle lodge
^
dire furnace
Fortnite
elfin tangle
uneven tendon
toxic mantle
There is a lot of references in the hats xd
summer nova
indeed
woeful pilot
xd
inland ferry
made it better <:joshu_sus:806084972536528926>
when josuke is sus
minor ore
There is a lot of references in the hats xd
I can see; Johnny, Gyro and Jotaro, but i think there's more in the other panels
manic lark
Here’s my fan palate
you just added grey?
minor ore
Yeah, I just wanted to try to make it better than just being completely pink
manic lark
hmmm, what about purple?
minor ore
Ooooooh pretty
light swift
I think it should be a little lighter to blend in with the rest of the color
woeful pilot
Ooooooh pretty
looks great
golden latch
Here’s my fan palate
What did you do? Add grey? The most boring color ever?
prisma oxide
Ooooooh pretty
blue?
fleet cedar
I think it's funny how there are supposed to be rules that stands are supposed to follow but there are stands that go against the rules it's like what I tell people there are rules I say okay these are rules that most stands have to follow but some don't
fleet cedar
Quite a few actually some of the rules that most have to follow is that only a stand can touch another stand if you try to physically Punch or kick it the attack will just go through them because they're technically a spirit also stands cannot be seen by regular people only people who also have stands
But in part 3 and 4 they were a couple of stands that not only could be touched like one that was literally a giant boat or another stand that was literally just electricity Tower the stands could also be seen by anyone
mossy sinew
Quite a few actually some of the rules that most have to follow is that only a...
That's because those Stands are bound those objects
dire furnace
Can you give examples
Notorious B.I.G ? Cheap Trick ?
im not sure about CT
since technically it always has a user
but Notorious definitely breaks the rules of stands dying with their users.
fleet cedar
Also there was this one stand in part 3 that allowed its user to disguise himself as something or someone else and it could also disintegrate or eat Flash and it was not only visible to anyone but could be touched
fleet cedar
Another good example of a rule but is not always followed by every single stand is the common rule that's damaged on a stand is also dealt to the user for the most part stands that go against this rule are very far range stands they don't need to be controlled by their user 100% of the time
dire furnace
yeah i dont think that applies to automatic stands besides WoU
which technically makes that a stand that also breaks stand rules
fleet cedar
It's not a big deal These rule-breaking stands are few and far in between and it makes sense it's just in the manga it sounds like they're trying to say no every stand follows these rules but they don't
kind owlBOT
@fleet cedar, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
hard meteor
I mean a lot of the stands you mentioned aren’t really rule breaking most of them are bound to an object or the user
near cedar
It's not a big deal These rule-breaking stands are few and far in between and i...
Stand rules are not rules for every stand
Some apply to some stands while they do not to others
Case by case
golden latch
yeah i dont think that applies to automatic stands besides WoU
I'm pretty sure WoU is not considered an automatic stand
Since Tooru can speak through it
It's just a really long distance stand
mental ridgeBOT
JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki
sinful bramble
Yeah, automatic is one of its descriptors for its Stand type
wind perch
There is a lot of references in the hats xd
have you noticed the hats?
golden latch
Isn't the wiki a fan site
sinful bramble
Yes, but it’s generally quite accurate
golden latch
idk, I think it's wrong
winter spade
^
golden latch
WoU is clearly being controlled
winter spade
If it’s not directly stated, I wouldn’t jump on it
winter spade
WoU is clearly being controlled
I’d think so too
winter spade
Although at points it does seem like Tooru allows it to run on autopilot
winter spade
Like when he tells it to get to the hospital, it’s phasing through walls and glass just to walk straight there
junior coral
It's a sentient automatic Stand
winter spade
Although Tooru has direct knowledge (seemingly) of what WoU is both doing and interacting with
Which is unique for an automatic stand
Least to my knowledge
junior coral
And Whitesnake
golden latch
I mean every stand is automatic and sentient to a degree
true ore
eh kinda but some of them you need to interact with to use them
golden latch
Aside from the ones that are just objects, every stand and probably act on its own
wind perch
Aside from the ones that are just objects, every stand and probably act on its o...
Can Requiem disobey to user's commands?
junior coral
we don't know
winter spade
Aside from the ones that are just objects, every stand and probably act on its o...
I mean we see people’s “heart/soul” acting on their own when they’re secured with doing something virtuous
sinful bramble
Neither requiem stands we saw were too controller by their users
golden latch
Can Requiem disobey to user's commands?
I don't see why it couldn't
wind perch
ok thanks
low talon
Tooru's dying while you talk, we must do something
golden latch
Oh no
low talon
Yes...
junior coral
How is it not sentient
The Head Doctor has an entire assembly by himself
While Tooru is talking to Yasuho by his van
lol
elfin tangle
It's not sentient, and we've seen Tooru directly closing his eyes and doing nothing while WOU does shit
Same stuff for WOU just standing there while Tooru does stuff. It's exactly like Tooru in personality and actions as well
junior coral
No, it really isn't
Tooru goes out and does things while Akefu does shit too
they act indifferent of each other
The entire hospital arc showed that
elfin tangle
No their personalities are incredibly similar. Akefu/WOU is nothing but a false identity and false act for Tooru to blend in no trouble
junior coral
So what if they have different personalities lol
elfin tangle
We see Tooru directly acting like his "sentient stand" and WOU acting exactly like Tooru with WOU straight up breaking his "super serious demeanor" and stammering when Rai got close
junior coral
I mean so what if they act similar
elfin tangle
It's highly unlikely to be a random sentient stand
junior coral
Not random at all
elfin tangle
It's not sentient
junior coral
It is sentient because it is able to act as a human being without Tooru needing to guide his every action
He is a long range sentient and automatic Stand
Usually those things go hand in hand
elfin tangle
But we see Tooru guiding it before, it's automatic to a degree but it's not sentient
elfin tangle
Usually those things go hand in hand
Sheer Heart Attack didn't have its' own personality
nor was it sentient
junior coral
hence "usually"
elfin tangle
Thus you're assuming
Because we directly see sentient stands showcase their sentience immediately while for WOU it can be argued that it's being controlled by Tooru and being guided to some degree
junior coral
How?
Also wanna know how i know you're wrong
When he reveals his name he says "I am Wonder of U"
he doesn't say "that's the name of my stand"
he talks in first person
elfin tangle
Show the panel
Spice Girl, Sex Pistols, and Echoes talk even when their user is doing stuff. Never ever have we seen at least one time of WOU talking even when it's right next to Tooru. Most of the time we see it interact is when Tooru isn't doing anything
junior coral
Wonder of U and Tooru are only ever in the same vicinity of each other in like one chapter
prisma oxide
That's the hospital chapter right?
elfin tangle
No, multiple
digital frigate
who summoned me?
prisma oxide
Most of the time he's controlling WoU from a long reach
elfin tangle
We have Tooru talk so much shit and when we see WOU show up with the opportunity to utter something, anything at all... it doesn't
elfin tangle
Exactly.
I don't believe WOU is this super sentient stand that does stuff without Tooru doing anything
junior coral
@elfin tangle I win
junior coral
So Tooru's name is Wonder of U
elfin tangle
We directly see in Jojolion when Tooru isn't controlling WOU it just stands in a corner with a glazed over look
uneven tendon
But like I said, people overestimate WoU's intelligence
junior coral
We directly see in Jojolion when Tooru isn't controlling WOU it just stands in a...
come on
uneven tendon
junior coral
how do you refute what I just sent you
Have you ever seen a Stand talk in third person and it wasn't sentient ?
uneven tendon
The Stand is sentient, but it's not THAT smart
uneven tendon
Saying it's name is not an incredible fit
junior coral
Sentient meaning it thinks on its own
uneven tendon
Spice Girl for instance named herself
prisma oxide
junior coral
!w Wonder of U
mental ridgeBOT
JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki
junior coral
gross fandom get outta here
sudden nymph
We have Tooru talk so much shit and when we see WOU show up with the opportunity...
To be fair that’s a illusion I think
brittle lodge
ew bad wiki
prisma oxide
Okay I get it you all can fuck off now
junior coral
The physical form of WoU, the actual Stand
is sentient
I'm talking to Lisette Bidoof
take it easy
oh the wiki thing yeah
bad wiki
uneven tendon
WoU is sentient, but I doubt it was the one giving the speech on the Locacaca 6521 for example
prisma oxide
I love how I thought pucci was talking in white snakes stead
junior coral
is it like a switch?
prisma oxide
But whitesnake is sentient
junior coral
can he be sentient one moment and then later not?
prisma oxide
Its a switch
uneven tendon
It's sentient, but it does seem to need Tooru to do and say most things
prisma oxide
Sometimes tooru is controlling it sometimes WoU gains a Sense of agency
junior coral
That's pure speculation
prisma oxide
That's my speculation ofc
uneven tendon
Then why was it just sitting in a corner doing nothing in 97?
If the Stand was truly sentient, it wouldn't do that
prisma oxide
It does have a calm demeanor
uneven tendon
So does Tooru
prisma oxide
Also it mightve known the calamity would hit them anyways
junior coral
He was in the corner because he was sad peoples always making fun of him 💔
prisma oxide
Didn't it just walk into the bathroom tho?
Oh nvm
U mean the pig tailed doctor scene
If tooru isn't using it
Wouldnt the doctor just disappear tho?
uneven tendon
Taoka
fleet river
Then why was it just sitting in a corner doing nothing in 97?
he was in timeout
he was mean to the other kids
sinful bramble
You have to make the file name start with SPOILER
Something like this
fleet river
you need to name the file in a specific way
fleet river
You have to make the file name start with SPOILER
Something like this
yea this
fleet river
yeah i usually just wait until I'm around my pc
unreal fox
its not anything major its just an out of context panel that i find funny
fleet river
thinking about it
its fucking cringe that the discord devs still didnt add this feature to the mobile version
unreal fox
if i was josuke in that situation i would’ve done unforgivable things
fleet river
if i was josuke in that situation i would’ve done unforgivable things
that motherfucking face
junior coral
sighs
unreal fox
he was making a face like he was actually getting topped or something
she’s an ameture
she’s not even at the level to actually get it in her mouth
bruh
@fleet river it didn’t work
unreal fox
the unspeakable things i’d do to her i’d be in federal prison guarded by all the strongest stands on earth
junior coral
christ
unreal fox
but thats just me
fleet river
what the fuck man
hard meteor
Mf thirstin over a manga panel
minor ore
fleet river
i still cant believe that shes over 50
golden latch
She doesn't even have hamon
fleet river
the miracles of good genes
uneven tendon
<:NotAmusedCaato:844969562650837064>
fleet river
thinking about it
i guess araki must have a warped perception of aging
he's 61 and barely looks older than 40
minor ore
Joshu > Jobin > Hato > Tsurugi >>> Daiya
sinful bramble
how would you all rank the higashikata kids?
Jobin>Tsurugi>Hato>Joshu>Daiya>Fetus
hard meteor
Mitsuba b tier and daiya in d tier :troll:
dire furnace
how would you all rank the higashikata kids?
Joshu > the other ones i guess i forget their names 😴😴
fleet river
Jobin>Tsurugi>Hato>Joshu>Daiya>Fetus
you are the first person to include Fetus
tbh i completely forgot about them
uneven tendon
liam giv me the jojolion emotes youre hoarding
minor ore
minor ore
fleet river
https://tenor.com/view/roka-a-bizzare-day-roblox-rokakaka-jojo-gif-18516721
yup thats going in my jojolion meme collection
uneven tendon
No
junior moat
@uneven tendon I meant green baby stand is kinda like WoU from my understanding
uneven tendon
It's not
uneven tendon
Pog Stand
fleet river
green green grass of home works completely differently
if you go near the baby you shrink
uneven tendon
Yeah, but the reasons why you can't get to either are very different
junior moat
Oh
uneven tendon
They are not really comparable imo
fleet river
Yeah, but the reasons why you can't get to either are very different
indeed
one is a purely physical stand
while the other is purely logical
junior moat
true
brittle lodge
yes
elfin tangle
how would you all rank the higashikata kids?
Joshu > Jobin > Tsurugi > Hato >>>>>>> Fetus > Daiya
The fetus brought some badass moments out of Mitsuba, that's more value than Daiya ever gave
uneven tendon
The fetus brought some badass moments out of Mitsuba, that's more value than Dai...
But what about this
uneven tendon
Maybe the anime will fix that
brittle lodge
"im a man"
crisp vigil
did daiya design change
besides the clothes
hard meteor
her face is less detailed than before
elfin tangle
Imagine if Araki personally requested for DP to change the entire arc of California King Bed to make Daiya look better
prisma oxide
Joshu's chad but Daiya still mid
Unbased opinion
She's not mid
She's trash
Lowest of the low
near cedar
Daiya hate? Good
crisp vector
But what about this
this moment was when i stopped hating joshu
that was a good day
crisp vigil
can we appreciate that tooru canonically named his stand after a song
he’s an elvis fan
lucid locust
Just read the end of the Ozon Baby arc, that chase scene was badass.
pallid flume
Ozon baby best jjl arc
winter spade
At a point it’s definitely the most important jojolion arc to date
Ironically enough not due to the actions of the main enemy during the arc
timid iron
joshu animation is done
minor ore
yoo it looks cool
timid iron
thanks
fleet river
Joshu > Jobin > Tsurugi > Hato >>>>>>> Fetus > Daiya
i didn't know that everyone hates Daiya
uneven tendon
Norisuke spoiled his kids too much
The most normal one is Hato, and she's the dumbest one
digital frigate
nope
subtle echo
ok
near cedar
can we appreciate that tooru canonically named his stand after a song
Jotaro canonically named Crazy Diamond after a song
Kira canonically named Killer Queen and all it's abilities after songs
Well I mean it's not out right stated but what else would they have named em after
uneven tendon
True
glad glen
it doesn't have to be mega intelligent
Didn't wonder of u become head doctor at the university tho? Otherwise it would gave been tooru who did clearly the stand has a good bit of intelligence
brittle lodge
is the "Head Doctor, can you hear me?" line a reference to Doctor Wu by Steely Dan?
'Can you hear me doctor'
digital frigate
might be
barren bough
could be
digital frigate
we shall never know
wintry loom
is jojolion good?
brittle lodge
yes
wintry loom
im finishing reading sbr
summer nova
read it and you'll find out
wintry loom
ok
summer nova
after u finish sbr
glad glen
is jojolion good?
Yeah it's worth the read
digital frigate
ye
uneven tendon
Jojolion is also a pog sequel to SBR
glad glen
Yeah
uneven tendon
Yeah
I have one question for you, to know if you're truly based
What do you think of Joshu Higashikata and Tooru?
glad glen
Well I think tooru is one of the best characters in the part considering the way he plans things out
Tbh I'm not too big of a fan of joshu, he kinda seemed like he might be an enemy in the beginning but he gets better over the course of the manga
uneven tendon
I can respect that
barren bough
im finishing reading sbr
which chapter?
pure charm
Jojowion
wintry loom
which chapter?
78
uneven tendon
But there are 95 chapters for SBR
junior coral
huh ??
minor ore
Does anyone know where I can find a colored version of the manga
subtle echo
2x2 1 rod
josuke's balls i always being mention
more mature (uncensored milkers)
imagining the honey sesame dumplings is savory
feeling bad for joshu
lucid locust
Does anyone know where I can find a colored version of the manga
The JoJo’s Coloured Adventure team has a Mega with parts 1-8 coloured (up to about chapter 70 of part 8)
After that you’ll have to read in black and white
subtle echo
After that you’ll have to read in black and white
is my thoughts on VOL 1 accurate
minor ore
But where can I find it
lucid locust
lucid locust
2x2 1 rod
josuke's balls i always being mention
more mature (uncensored milkers)...
I mean that all happens so...
lucid locust
Np
subtle echo
by the way 1.66 gb thats beyond my kindle's capacity
lucid locust
Just download a couple volumes at a time
shut gulch
hard meteor
shut gulch
crisp vector
any of yall know where i can find some sick jojolion edits
river urchin
did you ever see the crazy my beat version?
kind owlBOT
@river urchin, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
river urchin
exotic adder
Can't wait for Araki to bring back another Dio on the final chapters
near cedar
Ain't gon happen
dire furnace
DIO in every part
exotic adder
Except 2
near cedar
Mentioned
And is the cause of Joseph's live being the way it is
Since Joseph's father was killed by one of his zombies
digital frigate
yes
river urchin
JoJos are replaceable , DIO is forever.
you maybe right, but i disagree
exotic adder
Can't wait for José Joestar to face off against Danilo Brando in part 9
river urchin
can't wait no more second
near cedar
Can't wait for José Joestar to face off against Danilo Brando in part 9
what part 9
The one that probably won't happen?
That one?
crisp vector
The one that probably won't happen?
lame mindset
hard meteor
Part 9 never lmao
near cedar
Has a part to finish
minor ore
no its a realistic mindset
near cedar
Then done most likely
minor ore
exotic adder
Was kinda hoping how Joseph josuke and giorno would do in the new universe
lucid locust
I wouldn’t say no to a Part 9 but don’t get your hopes up lmao
exotic adder
Ik I mean the ireneverse
minor ore
we're not going to see the ireneverse again anytime soon
exotic adder
Jotaros death is gonna hurt alot when it's animated
exotic adder
Didn't araki say Giorno was present in Florida during the Cape carneval fight
He couldn't prevented the reset
hard meteor
Nah
lapis fractal
I'm just curious, why do people want an explanation for the Wall Eyes? I feel as if irregular things are simply a part of Jojo that need no explanation
hard meteor
It was stated that he was possibly in Florida on a infocard,but that was after the part was already finished so it doesn’t mean much really
lucid locust
Didn't araki say Giorno was present in Florida during the Cape carneval fight
Rikiel’s card said he might have been, but in the end he probably wasn’t
mossy sinew
Didn't araki say Giorno was present in Florida during the Cape carneval fight
I think that was added by the fan translators
exotic adder
Oh and didn't it say that dios sons are attracted to Pucci or something
Why wasn't giorno
frigid flint
why would he even will
near cedar
Didn't araki say Giorno was present in Florida during the Cape carneval fight
No
That was some crap added in the volume release
So written after the story was complete
exotic adder
Oh
near cedar
Why wasn't giorno
Giorno isn't a failure
digital frigate
the only one who made it anywhere was gio
exotic adder
I c
digital frigate
thats why
uneven tendon
Didn't araki say Giorno was present in Florida during the Cape carneval fight
The ''Giorno might be in Florida'' thing is just some Shueisha bullshit
exotic adder
True
near cedar
They are
Shitty drug addict, can't control his stand and the rods bully him, and can't control his stand and gets in depe shit cuz of it
uneven tendon
The shitty drug addict also almost took over the world
Without having to put any effort
hard meteor
Legend
Imagine having god like levels of power and you didn’t even need actual effort to use it
near cedar
Except all of them only stopped being failures after Pucci showed em they had stands
uneven tendon
But why couldn't they use variants of Hermit Purple?
They are also sons of Jonathan, who was a Hamon user
near cedar
hilarious
uneven tendon
I mean, it is accurate
lucid locust
glad glen
Stand that inflicts testicular torsion
Lol imagine having to fight against that
glad glen
But why couldn't they use variants of Hermit Purple?
Isn't Hermit Purple only obtained through having a stand while being able to use hamon?
Smthn like dat idk how to word it
junior coral
Hermit Purple is known as the "Hamon User's Stand"
glad glen
Yeah
junior coral
It is similar to how Pearl Jam and Cinderella were given to Tonio and Aya when they both mastered cooking or hairdressing
Same thing with Hermit Purple and Hamon
and I would say the same also goes for Ball Breaker and Spin
glad glen
Yeah that sounds right
junior coral
@wary haven
minor ore
willow crystal
Sheesh and Josuke hasn’t even gotten a kiss yet
near cedar
JoJo Memes go to #manga-jojokes
minor ore
JoJo Memes go to <#298146426926530561>
sorry it wasnt meant to be a joke
near cedar
creepily similar
minor ore
same people? hmm
willow crystal
same people? hmm
Ah yes cause Sugar Mountain Spring Girl would totally stay the same age after like 150 years
willow crystal
Nope
They aren’t even related
She’s a one off character
She was only there for the sugar mountain spring arc
And that’s it
minor ore
why
willow crystal
She’s a kid
minor ore
what does that make josuke then
willow crystal
Alright wel
Josuke is different
He was born a adult
And he’s estimated to be 19
minor ore
but he's an adult still
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
minor ore
the reason why pedophilia is bad is because the childs mind is not fully developed yet so that means they can not consent
but josukes mind is developed
because he is an adult
but still I can say daiya is cute
lucid locust
She is the cutest jojo girl tho
not true
near cedar
Daiya a bitch
brittle lodge
^
minor ore
*Daiya a bitch*
wrong
lucid locust
lucid locust
https://tenor.com/view/lisa-lisa-jojo-jojos-bizarre-adventures-jjba-anime-gif-17...
cutest JoJo girl
minor ore
her actions are forgiven because she is cute
brittle lodge
no
near cedar
No
brittle lodge
thats not how it works
near cedar
She should have gotten a smackdown
willow crystal
Hottest Jojo Mom is Kaato
near cedar
She should have gotten a smackdown
Like any other antagonist
willow crystal
Big mommy milkers
minor ore
lisa lisa cringe
lucid locust
https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-anime-lisa-lisa-jojo-gorgeous-gif...
Hottest JoJo Mom
willow crystal
Lisa Lisa? More like underdeveloped character 🤣
lucid locust
cope
minor ore
lisa lisa looks like she should be giving me detention for not listening in her strict classroom
lucid locust
https://tenor.com/view/cope-dont-care-crying-cry-chips-gif-21606846
cope harder
minor ore
how hard should i cope
when does coping reach the maximum coping level?
when does a new jojolion chapter get released
I'm finally caught up after a week
sinful bramble
19th of each month
minor ore
ah ok
sinful bramble
With 1-2 months off per year
minor ore
I hope jobin comes back alive he was the best character
And he was the only one with the best intentions
near cedar
I hope jobin comes back alive he was the best character
He's dead
minor ore
a years worth is only 10 chapters
10 chapters is only like less than a day in jojolion time
also I heard some people talk about josuke having king crimson??
near cedar
That's a joke
minor ore
where did that come from cause I didn't hear anything about that
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !
near cedar
A very very bad joke
minor ore
oh
uneven tendon
She should have gotten a smackdown
Who knows what will happen after the flash forward
minor ore
what if this guy is a fuse of norisuke and jobin
uneven tendon
No
minor ore
yes
uneven tendon
We already saw Norisuke in the flash forward
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Jobin's dead
uneven tendon
He's knocked out
minor ore
but who is that guy then
uneven tendon
We don't know
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Also the Rokakaka alone doesn't fuse
uneven tendon
A very very bad joke
I don't see what's wrong with that
minor ore
because josuke says he has abilities he doesnt know about for soft and wet
willow crystal
what if this guy is a fuse of norisuke and jobin
It’s Haruno!
minor ore
what if one of them are seeing visions from the future like epitaph
and the man is a fusion of norisuke and someone else
dire furnace
what
thorny kiln
why is everyone here talking about jousuke having kc?
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It was brought up
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Somebody thought that was a real thing
thorny kiln
damn
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So we told em it's a bad joke
thorny kiln
ok
uneven tendon
It's not a bad joke
thorny kiln
I just got worried for a sec
uneven tendon
KC in Jojolion is what we need
mossy sinew
Wait wasn't it Haruno who had KC ?
minor ore
Have you read part 8
thorny kiln
if ur asking me then yeah
hard meteor
nah haruno had crazy little thing
woeful pilot
smh
uneven tendon
I wish Crazy Little Thing was the one to hit Tooru TBH
crisp vigil
crazy little thing broken
minor ore
okay but KC makes sense for josuke
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how
minor ore
the unnamed man josuke remembers
uneven tendon
The Jobin stan is saying so many caps in less than an hour
uneven tendon
the unnamed man josuke remembers
What about him?
minor ore
what if it wasnt a memory but a premonition of the future
uneven tendon
Probably not
minor ore
and josuke doesnt realize he has epitaphs ability
just like he doesnt realize he has spin
he has abilities he isn't aware of
minor ore
But it isn't the same it's a new universe and stands from the old universe are slightly different
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The World was 1:1
minor ore
wdym
uneven tendon
Jojolion Killer Queen is very different than DiU Killer Queen
minor ore
killer queen is not the same as part 4
uneven sigil
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And THE WORLD and The World are the same
minor ore
So this means that stands can be different
it doesnt have to be the exact same as the other one
uneven tendon
But that doesn't mean Araki is going to bring back King Crimson
Josuke just got a power up
minor ore
I think king crimson will show up one way or another
minor ore
and made in heaven is saved for part 9
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Part 9 lul
uneven tendon
There won't be a part 9
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That ain't happening
uneven tendon
Araki wants to retire
minor ore
think about it, part 7 and 8 or definitely not sequels
uneven tendon
8 is a sequel to 7
minor ore
but what if they were prequels
uneven tendon
what
That reminds me of the shitpost theory I made, on how Joshu is going to reset the timeline with Nut Beyond and have parts 1-6 happen
minor ore
part 9 will be mirrored to part 6
uneven tendon
You're grossly simplifying things
minor ore
the main stand will be similar to made in heaven
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !
minor ore
and the villain will achieve his goal and win
uneven tendon
But Pucci didn't win
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part 7 is a mirror to part 1
it isn't
uneven tendon
He lost
minor ore
at the end of it all, he creates a similar yet very different universe and that is when part 1 begins
uneven tendon
Parts 7 and 8 are not mirrors, they are a new story
Paying homages to the original story of Jojo
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Parts 1-6 and 7-8 are totally and utterly unconnected
minor ore
Parts 1-6 and 7-8 are totally and utterly unconnected
everyone knows that duh
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Didn't sound like you did
uneven tendon
So why would there be MiH in part 9
minor ore
because araki uses the main villains stands from the previous parts again
uneven tendon
He doesn't
minor ore
parts 7 and 8 are mirrors to other parts
part 7 is part 1 and part 8 is told as part 4
uneven tendon
parts 7 and 8 are mirrors to other parts
They are not mirrors
uneven tendon
No
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parts 7 and 8 are mirrors to other parts
they aren't
The similarities are almost none existant
dire furnace
they're parallels or sumn ig
uneven tendon
Parts 7 and 8 are just a separate story that has a bunch of references
minor ore
they're parallels or sumn ig
yes you get it
uneven tendon
That's it
minor ore
when the end of part 9 happens I predict the villain will have a stand similar to made in heaven
uneven tendon
Jojolion seems to be up to a good ending, ignoring questionable stuff like Kei's death
uneven tendon
when the end of part 9 happens I predict the villain will have a stand similar t...
Part 9 won't happen
minor ore
araki confirmed part 9
uneven tendon
He didn't
dire furnace
Araki is old
crisp vigil
they're parallels or sumn ig
callbacks rather than rebirths
johnny is a completely different character than jonathan
dire furnace
im aware
minor ore
and he says he wants to retire during his 60's and araki just turned exactly 60 years old this year
uneven tendon
Yeah, so he will retire after Jojolion is finished
minor ore
he still has almost a decade left before he can retire
uneven tendon
Because he wants to finish the story
uneven tendon
he still has almost a decade left before he can retire
He can already retire, he just wants to finish Jojolion
minor ore
assuming part 9 wont be as long as jojolion, he can get it done in a couple of years
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He said he wants to retire when he gets to 60
crisp vigil
part 9 might be shorter
like pb or bt length
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He'll just finish JJL first
minor ore
each jojo parts are a part of a trilogy
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Doesn't matter
uneven tendon
Why do we even need a part 9, parts 7 and 8 combined are worth 4 parts
crisp vigil
ending at jojolion isn’t satisfying
uneven tendon
It is
minor ore
parts 1-3 parts 4-6 and parts 7-8 with a part 9 completing it
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ending at jojolion isn’t satisfying
How do you know it isn't
uneven tendon
4-6 are not a trilogy
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Do you know the ending?
uneven tendon
They are mostly disconnected stories
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4-6 are not a trilogy
"arrow trilogy" is what people like to call it
dire furnace
yall really wanna work em til he dies huh ?
uneven tendon
"arrow trilogy" is what people like to call it
I know that, and I think that's dumb
minor ore
parts 1-3 are about the stone mask trilogy
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Yes no
minor ore
and dio
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It's about DIO mostly
crisp vigil
How do you know it isn't
well right now if tooru died and araki was all like “oh that’s it jojo is over” i wouldn’t find it as pleasing as stone ocean’s end
uneven tendon
1-3 WERE planned as a trilogy, but 4-6 weren't
minor ore
4-6 are about the stands and the arrow specifically
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Tooru isn't dead yet
crisp vigil
exactly
uneven tendon
well right now if tooru died and araki was all like “oh that’s it jojo is over” ...
But there's still a lot of shit to solve even if Tooru dies
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4-6 are about the **stands** and the arrow specifically
eh?
But part 3 is about stands
crisp vigil
But there's still a lot of shit to solve even if Tooru dies
that’s why i’m saying
i don’t think jojolion ending the series is ideal
uneven tendon
There isn't a Stone Mask in part 3
minor ore
parts 4-6 focus on stands and the arrow as the main problem
uneven tendon
Also, the Arrow isn't that significant to part 6 as a whole
minor ore
Dio and the stone mask are the main problem in parts 1-3
dire furnace
DIO saved the OG universe
uneven tendon
that’s why i’m saying
i don’t think jojolion ending the series is ideal
I think it will be
minor ore
it seems you have trouble accepting an opposing thought to your own
uneven tendon
I don't
minor ore
yes you do
uneven tendon
I just think that all of what you're saying is stupid
crisp vigil
opinions don’t exist remember that
uneven tendon
They do
dire furnace
a reason for what
uneven tendon
This conversation is stupid, let's move on to a different topic
minor ore
a reason why jojo parts being a part of a trilogy is stupid
uneven tendon
So, do you think Tooru will eventually become number 1 main villain?
crisp vigil
but jojo is trilogies
dire furnace
1 - 3 was the only trilogy
uneven tendon
Yeah, 1-3 only trilogy
dire furnace
9 wont happen because Araki is old
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DIO saved the OG universe
wot
minor ore
i only got 1-3 worded responses but no reasons why its stupid
uneven tendon
Erik
dire furnace
because those 3 parts were planned out from the beginning
uneven tendon
Do you think Tooru will eventually become number 1 main villain
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Not mine
dire furnace
the others are continuations
uneven tendon
What is yours? Pucci if I remember correctly?
dire furnace
seperate stories from that point on
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Can't decide between DIO/Dio and Pucci
minor ore
parts 7-8 will eventually become a trilogy with part 9 being the end
uneven tendon
They won't
minor ore
You dont know that
dire furnace
4 - 6 were not at all connected besides vaguely involving Jotaro
minor ore
4 - 6 were not at all connected besides vaguely involving Jotaro
those parts focus on stands and the arrow
crisp vigil
4-6 is the arrow and its after effects
dire furnace
no
uneven tendon
But 3 also focused on Stands
dire furnace
fhey have stand arrows
uneven tendon
And the Arrow wasn't a main focus in 6
dire furnace
but they're not the focus
minor ore
You cant give me a counter reason just simple responses like "no"
Stands and the arrow are the big focus on parts 4-6
that is the main conflict
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Arrows are not the big focus of part 6
It shows up once
And then leaves the story
And that's a flashback
crisp vigil
dio traveled the world, giving people stands with the arrow looking for someone to help with the heaven plan
pucci then got whitesnake after dio gave him the arrow, starting the events of part 6
also the arrow awakened stone free
uneven tendon
Also, the big focus of 4 was still catching Kira, the Arrows were just why most of the characters got their Stands
And how Kira got BTD
minor ore
the arrow is the root cause of part 6 which is causes the main conflict
uneven tendon
Not really
crisp vigil
look into the heaven plan my guy
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DIO is the root cause
minor ore
Not really
Again cant even give me a good reason
crisp vigil
dio gave pucci whitesnake and befriended him, leading into pucci stealing star platinum and hence part 6 starts
uneven tendon
dio traveled the world, giving people stands with the arrow looking for someone ...
It obviously has plot importance, but it's not a big focus of the part
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DIO is the root cause
That and Pucci's plan for braking up Weather and Perla not going very well
uneven tendon
They are done with Arrow shenanigans very early on
crisp vigil
literally pucci wouldn’t have his stand without the arrow
uneven tendon
That's correct
crisp vigil
so it’s important
uneven tendon
But it's still not a main issue of the part
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The arrow giving him his stand does not make it a focal point of the part
crisp vigil
it’s about the after effects
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It's important but not focal point
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it’s about the **after effects**
No it's not
uneven tendon
To conclude, 1-3 only trilogy in Jojo
crisp vigil
bruh
dire furnace
yeah . . its almost as if that's the easiest way to get a stand in the original universe.
crisp vigil
yall need to read
minor ore
Even in the beginning if part 6 that gift that jotaro gave jolyne, that is also the stand arrow
uneven tendon
And 7-8 are more cohesive than 1-3
minor ore
that had a big significance in the beginning
lucid locust
DIO got his stand from the Arrow, meaning parts 3-6 are about the arrow
dire furnace
yall are connecting dots that aren't there.
lucid locust
crisp vigil
DIO got his stand from the Arrow, meaning parts 3-6 are about the arrow
thank you
minor ore
DIO got his stand from the Arrow, meaning parts 3-6 are about the arrow
part 3 had no mention of the arrow
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...
dire furnace
.
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Well it had the arrow in the anime version
lucid locust
part 3 had no mention of the arrow
Ok and?
minor ore
not even in the anime
lucid locust
Still same logic
crisp vigil
enya had it, it’s explained 5-6
minor ore
was that added in the anime
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But it is very much there in the anime
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was that added in the anime
what part of it had it in the anime version wasn't clear
lucid locust
was that added in the anime
crisp vigil
anime isn’t a reliable source, best place to look for evidence is araki’s original writing in the manga
errant crater
Daiya is hot ngl
dire furnace
huh
errant crater
Huh
minor ore
jobin will you come back to life
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No
minor ore
you will right?
dire furnace
🦀 Jobin is gone 🦀
errant crater
That depends on Araki you know
dire furnace
also dont rp or im jumping you
errant crater
I can't control my own fate
minor ore
jobin was the only character with the best intentions
errant crater
jobin was the only character with the best intentions
Ikr
minor ore
he was morally better than the rest
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HA HA HA
minor ore
laugh out loud
uneven tendon
jobin was the only character with the best intentions
No he wasn't
minor ore
everyone murdered in part 8
errant crater
uneven tendon
Josuke wants to save his mother, Jobin wants to be better than everyone
errant crater
Beetle
minor ore
josuke murdered, yasuho murdered
crisp vigil
he need that fruit
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Self defence isn't murder
minor ore
He killed Oijiro's gf
he had to do it
minor ore
and plus we saw that his girlfriend was a bitch
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he had to do it
Why did he have to kill the woman who was not a threat
uneven tendon
He also said he would've killed Mako's daughter if she was a Stand user
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and plus we saw that his girlfriend was a bitch
ah so kill everybody who's a bitch?
minor ore
Why did he have to kill the woman who was not a threat
she had the pictures that would threaten jobin
i think thats a huuuggee threat
uneven tendon
It's not
minor ore
why are you like this
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Why do you call the morally bad people morally good
uneven tendon
And Jobin wants to fuck over everyone so he can get to the top
crisp vigil
beetle boy
minor ore
jobin was doing it for the sake of the higashikatas. Anyone who tried to steal his fruit was harmed. He never seeked out people to harm
Jobin was the true good guy
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !
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Knocks his dad out and causes his arm to fall off
You know what lemme call the really smart person
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Jobin was the true good guy
@elfin tangle
lucid locust
minor ore
It was the best decision and he was in a tight spot
uneven tendon
The true good guy of Jojolion is Holly
uneven tendon
It was the best decision and he was in a tight spot
It was not
minor ore
If you make decisions based off of emotion, you won't he able to accomplish your goal and you would fail
uneven tendon
Attacking your innocent dad is never a good option
uneven tendon
If you make decisions based off of *emotion,* you won't he able to accomplish yo...
But Jobin's goals were bad
minor ore
Attacking your innocent dad is never a good option
it was the best option
uneven tendon
It wasn't
crisp vigil
then what’s a better one
minor ore
But Jobin's goals were bad
saving the curse of your entire family is not bad
uneven tendon
My man Norisuke did not deserve that at all
uneven tendon
saving the curse of your entire family is not bad
But he is willing to kill everyone just for that
uneven tendon
yes he did
What
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HOW DID HE DESERVE IT
uneven tendon
Norisuke would've sacrificed himself instead of killing people
hard meteor
nah stop the bs right there, norisuke did not deserve it in any capacity
crisp vigil
he didn’t deserve it, but jobin did what he had to so the higashikatas could profit off the rokakaka
hard meteor
the whole scene is showing that jobin went too far
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Damn fucking people who like villains and pretend the villains didn't do anything wrong
uneven tendon
The only bad thing Norisuke has done was allowing Daiya to keep Josuke as a slave
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Give villain fans like me a bad name
minor ore
because norisuke found out that he killed oujiro and almost killed yasuho, he would have tried to stop jobin, and thats why norisuke needed to be knocked out so he could wait a few more hours for the rokakaka fruit to be given to tsurugi
uneven tendon
But what's wrong with him stopping Jobin?
uneven tendon
Jobin killed people, he should face consequences
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And unlike Josuke or the others
minor ore
But what's wrong with him stopping Jobin?
wdym? Jobin wouldn't be able to help tsurugi with the fruit and he knew norisuke would kill himself to save tsurugi
hard meteor
because norisuke found out that he killed oujiro and almost killed yasuho, he wo...
he didnt knock him out though he left him mortally wounded at best
uneven tendon
By your logic Jobin Stan, Yasuho also deserved to die
brittle lodge
angy jobin
uneven tendon
Because she tried to go against Jobin
minor ore
Jobin killed people, he should face consequences
if you say that then josuke deserves consequences too
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The other was attempted murder cuz Jobin's a dick
uneven tendon
if you say that then josuke deserves consequences too
Consequences for?