jojolion

[uneven tendon]

||Probably so he could kill him himself||

[runic adder]

Yea

[uneven tendon]

I'm kind of disappointed by how the rock humans are just violent assholes

[runic adder]

That’s kind of their nature tho, they’re incapable of strong relationships

[uneven tendon]

I wouldn't say they're incapable since we do have Aisho, Dolomite and Tooru to an extent

But it's definitely tough for them

[runic adder]

Tooru defies that firstmost

I mean like, even if they give unconditional love, they cannot always keep hold of those relationships

As demonstrated with aisho and dolomite

[uneven tendon]

But in Aisho's and Dolomite's cases, it wasn't their fault

[runic adder]

Yea

[quasi root]

wheres the lion araki

show us the damn lions

we need the lion in jojolion

[uneven tendon]

The lion is Joshu

[daring bear]

🦁 here

[minor ore]

Tooru is the lion
Have you seen his hair

[delicate burrow]

There is no lion

There is no Jojo

There is no jojolion

Done

😎

[sudden nymph]

The sealion would like to talk to you

[runic adder]

@summer nova go beyond is just the stand of the bubbles

[summer nova]

lmao

[hazy snow]

there is no lion in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Part 8: Jojolion

[sudden nymph]

Sealion

[hazy snow]

there is no war

in ba sing se

[sudden nymph]

@hazy snow part 8’s theme is all about breaking a curse

[hazy snow]

is it not also mystery

Josuke wanting to find out

who he is

[runic adder]

[sudden nymph]

Zyro please help me

I just can’t with this

[hazy snow]

but the njimura bros arent here tho

tbh

[runic adder]

whats the argument?

[sudden nymph]

I’m trying to say part 8 and 4 aren’t the same and he is trying to say they are the same

[runic adder]

they are not the same at all

[hazy snow]

not even what i originally said

[runic adder]

ok what is your argument duck

[hazy snow]

i said that it was like a remake

[runic adder]

its not

[hazy snow]

of part 4

[runic adder]

it is most definitely not

thats like calling part 7 a remake of part 1

[hazy snow]

u can't tell me it isnt

[minor ore]

its more like if you mixed new ideas with parts 2-6

[runic adder]

they take similar elements but are ultimately their own story

[hazy snow]

spin being an au of hamon\

[runic adder]

if you wont change your stance, then i wont try to argue

[runic adder]

it is, and?

did josuke in the ogverse develop spin powers?

[hazy snow]

jonathan "johnny" has a father with the same name as part 1

[runic adder]

ok

so like i said, similar elements are there

[hazy snow]

blatant misinterpretation of my point

[runic adder]

but the stories are not the same

[sudden nymph]

Also Gappy is arguably the exact opposite of josuke

[minor ore]

batman???

oh

[hazy snow]

remake ≠ same

[minor ore]

blatant

[hazy snow]

shit

[runic adder]

im just saying, they are not remakes

[hazy snow]

where's the not equal sign

[runic adder]

therefore, since part 4 and 8 ARENT the same story, they arent a remake!

a remake is the same thing with enhanced elements

[sudden nymph]

A remake literally means the same story

[hazy snow]

there found it

[minor ore]

a better word would be "re-imagining"

[runic adder]

ok

[runic adder]

yea

even then its not a similar story structure either

[hazy snow]

yah that's a better word

[runic adder]

akira isnt damo

tooru isnt kira

etc

[hazy snow]

i mean we have higashikata, hirose, kira, morioh,

also relatively normal home life at parts

[runic adder]

the higashikatas arent the same

hirose is not the same

kira is not the same

morioh itself is not the same

they bear resemblance in NAME ALONE

[hazy snow]

never said they were

strawman

[runic adder]

ok then whats your point?

so what are you even trying to say

by saying "we have the same names as another part"

[hazy snow]

it's part 4 re-imagined

as the other guy better stated

[minor ore]

then your point is invalid?

[runic adder]

so its not a remake

[minor ore]

why are you even saying anything

what is this convo even???

[hazy snow]

where did u get that even from?

[hazy snow]

ppl strawmanning hard

[runic adder]

because your original point was that it was a remake, now you're switching it to a re-imagining

[minor ore]

strawwhat?

[hazy snow]

long after i stated that re-imagined was the better word

u still insisted that my point was remake

strawmanning

[runic adder]

but its not even a re-imaging is another thing

the stories have fundamentally different themes and objectives

[hazy snow]

u say it's not re-imagine, but al ur points are against my original weaker argument that i had since improved

[runic adder]

ok whats your argument now, since all you seem to be saying is "strawman strawman strawman"

[hazy snow]

then stop strawmanning if u want me to stop calling u out

[runic adder]

holy shit dude i dont care, just give me something to actually debate

[hazy snow]

rage quitting discussion

cope

[runic adder]

ok fine then, if you wanna leave

oh you're talking about me

[hazy snow]

yes

[crisp vector]

What’re we talkin ab

[hazy snow]

lmao

[runic adder]

apparently nothing cuz this dude just wants to insult me instead of giving a valid point

whaddya wanna talk about?

[hazy snow]

coping hard lmfao

[runic adder]

dude will you say something productive or not

[crisp vector]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-blue-hawaii-jojolion-jojo-gif-20883112

[runic adder]

i dont give a fuck about petty squabbles on discord i legit just wanna debate you on this

[runic adder]

lmao

[hazy snow]

if u want serious debates go to the us elections lmfao

[runic adder]

[crisp vector]

What is this man sayin

[hazy snow]

[runic adder]

just saying cope on repeat

[hazy snow]

u really are tbh

[crisp vector]

https://tenor.com/view/king-nothing-jojo-jojolion-norisuke-higashikata-gif-18860054

[runic adder]

dude i literally dont care just please provide a valid argument for ONCE instead of saying cope on repeat

[minor ore]

Joshu is overhated
Everything he has done is out of misinterpretion
He is just socially awkward

[runic adder]

[minor ore]

Shit I interrupted something again didn't i

[crisp vector]

Juna spittin

[minor ore]

Sorry go on

[runic adder]

nah nah joshu discussion is better than this

[hazy snow]

not really

tbh i stopped taking u seriously when u started strawmanning

[runic adder]

i jumped to a few conclusions

[minor ore]

What's strawwm

[hazy snow]

and arguing a point which was long past

[minor ore]

What

[crisp vector]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-tom-jojolion-jojo-gif-18608516

[hazy snow]

basically misinterpreting the other person's argument

[crisp vector]

Nah

[hazy snow]

intentionally

to make it seem like u winning

[crisp vector]

It’s when you misrepresent someone’s point by using an extreme example

[minor ore]

Ah

[quasi root]

ok so

soft and wet is bubble stand

[sudden nymph]

Like if someone said we shouldn’t kill someone and the other guy said but what if you had to kill this one person who was evil to save the world

Right?

[crisp vector]

Yeah sum like that

[quasi root]

my theory is that araki wrote jojolion

[sudden nymph]

Besides the names there is literally no big similarities with part 4 and 8

[runic adder]

interesting point

[runic adder]

thank you

maybe you can talk sense into duck

but i think they left this channel

[sudden nymph]

At the very most you could say that they both had two half’s with a villain for each half but that’s kind of a big stretch

[quasi root]

there is one

[near cedar]

What's going on here

[runic adder]

akira isnt even half lmao

[quasi root]

theres one similarity between p4 and p8

[hazy snow]

nah u capping

[sudden nymph]

Guy tried to say part 8 is a remake of 4

[near cedar]

Aha

It isn't

[runic adder]

re-imagining is their new argument

[hazy snow]

lmfao, he was the one who called u

[hazy snow]

yes, because remake was the wrong word

[runic adder]

oh yea forgot that

[sudden nymph]

Because I didn’t want to deal with you

[runic adder]

smart choice

i shouldnt have jumped in

never ping me unless the argument is mystery man or caato 😤

[quasi root]

theres one similarity between p4 and p8

both josukes pull hoes

[hazy snow]

?

tru

[runic adder]

chick magnets

[sudden nymph]

True but other than that they are basically the exact opposite of each other in a way

[hazy snow]

lmfao

[hazy snow]

u stil arguing about that

u coping even harder than zyro

[sudden nymph]

Sounds great

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-seethe-cope-cope-gif-19299672

[runic adder]

a nice deal, nothing could go wrong here

[sudden nymph]

I will cope

[hazy snow]

O_O

[sudden nymph]

I will even cope seethe

But you still wrong

[hazy snow]

ok

[quasi root]

ngl that sounds like a good deal

[runic adder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823672785112137788/838767757805223936/image0.gif

[hazy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-ok-saitama-gif-4973579

[runic adder]

mystery man in 107

thats my reason to keep moving forward

[molten crane]

YOU'RE RIGHT

[sudden nymph]

My reason is Joshu vs Jobin

[runic adder]

mystery man, karera, and just chapter 107 in general are my daily copes

[runic adder]

now THAT is a major cope, not even gonna lie

it would be so kino

[sudden nymph]

Just let me cope and dream

[runic adder]

fire vs screws, natural enemies

[sudden nymph]

Fire type > steel type

[runic adder]

thats so true

yknow what beats fire tho, water

which are bubbles

[sudden nymph]

Does that mean paisley park is better than soft and wet because of Pokémon

[runic adder]

yes

well, paisley park almost did die to a toilet tho...

[quasi root]

paisley park is automatically better because its google maps

[sudden nymph]

Is wonder of u dark psychic

[runic adder]

psychic ghost imo

it can create illusions of itself and all

and can appear wherever someone has intent to pursue

[sudden nymph]

Yeah but a calamity is a dark thing

[runic adder]

well that depends on if we apply fate as psychic or dark

[sudden nymph]

True

[molten crane]

what if wonder of you is just ghost dark

[runic adder]

it makes sense as well

[sudden nymph]

That’s also possible

[runic adder]

either ghost dark or psychic ghost

[sudden nymph]

Got to go bye

[molten crane]

cya

[runic adder]

cya

[molten crane]

because i see the fate as dark more than psychic since it's calamity

[runic adder]

yea

[molten crane]

wait what if it's non human form could be ghost/dark and it's more humanoid form is psychic dark

[runic adder]

interesting

[molten crane]

it's similar to giritina

[runic adder]

isnt giratina's forms caused by the travel between the distortion realm and the normal world

[molten crane]

I meant like design wise

[runic adder]

ohhh

[uneven tendon]

You know, Jojolion should be a musical

[runic adder]

tooru eats wasps on stage

[sudden nymph]

I’m gonna create some move sets for jojolion stands

Like if they were Pokémon

[molten crane]

the funnest part for me when it comes to making random things into pokemon is the base stat total

[sudden nymph]

How

That’s like the worst part

[molten crane]

idk it's just fun thinking bout how good the pokemon does it battle

[molten crane]

well maybe it's because i'm a nerd

[sudden nymph]

I’m not gonna do stats personally

[runic adder]

just ignore stats

focusing on moves, types, and abilities are much more interesting

or shiny forms

[molten crane]

tasty

[runic adder]

yellow soft and wet

[molten crane]

idk about moves those are my least favorite part

[runic adder]

well not every move possible to learn

just 4 moves

[molten crane]

Josuke's Soft and Wet is white/blue and it's shiny is gold
Joseumi's soft and wet is gold and it's shiny is white/blue

[sudden nymph]

I’m making up moves by the way they aren’t moves from the game

[runic adder]

[runic adder]

ohhh ok

with soft and wet i could pretty easily just take a moveset from existing moves

bubble beam

[molten crane]

thief probably

for plunder

[runic adder]

theres already a water fighting pokemon, i could take some stuff from that

oohh yea thief is good

[molten crane]

the water fighting types are poliwhirl, keldeo, and someone else i'm forgetting

[runic adder]

the crab guy is who i was thinking of

from gen 7

that may be ice fighting, idk

[molten crane]

oh wait

no it's just those too

crabrawler is pure fighting

[runic adder]

yea its fighting ice

nvm

[molten crane]

it's evolution is ice fighting

[runic adder]

i remember it had some water moves but yea ice

[molten crane]

only ice type that isn't a regional form introduced in that region

[runic adder]

really?

interesting

[molten crane]

makes sense though, who would've known a tropical region woudn't introduce ice types

[molten crane]

yeah I just know random stuff about pokemon

[runic adder]

i used to know a lot

[runic adder]

true

but also, who would have known a tropical region would have interdimensional beings

[molten crane]

true true

[uneven tendon]

Do you think Jojolion could've worked if it was more romantic?

[tepid girder]

no

[uneven tendon]

[runic adder]

Wdym “could’ve worked”

It works just fine

[uneven tendon]

It does

I should rephrase that

If Jojolion had a romantic tone, do you think it could've worked?

[runic adder]

I don’t think a more romantic feel for the part is super important

If it did have a romantic tone, not much changes about the overall story

The power of josuke and yasuhos bond leads up to, well, the invisible bubbles

[minor ore]

bruh romantic
couldnt even get a proper scene with gappy and yasuho
they keep getting interrupted

[runic adder]

Unfortunately

Maybe jjl could end with them going on a nice date

[minor ore]

yeaaah lol
i need an entire chapter just about the date

only then i can die in peace

[runic adder]

If gyro and Johnny got a chapter devoted to one joke why can’t we get a chapter devoted to one date

It’s not fair

[minor ore]

i need at least 7 pages dedicated to dolomite eating fried chicken and starring at the pond

[runic adder]

Without limbs it’s kind of hard to look up and eat at the same time

[quasi root]

i need atleast 7 chapters dedicated to yasuho picking some outfits for gappy before the fight

"hey josuke, do you wanna try this out"

[minor ore]

no cap
my favourite chapter

[uneven tendon]

*Leads to their relationship to go beyond

[minor ore]

that would be adorable

ALSO WE NEED A GOOD ENDING WITH JOSHU

[uneven tendon]

Also, I have a question

[sudden nymph]

He is the main villain so maybe
Proof: I’m araki

[uneven tendon]

So if Josuke and Yasuho become a couple, she will probably want to live with Josuke because she doesn't like living with her mother, right?

So where would she sleep?

In the garage with Joshu?

[sudden nymph]

But her mom is a epic gamer

[uneven tendon]

Or maybe they could give her Jobin's room

[sudden nymph]

Bruh

[minor ore]

kinky

[uneven tendon]

Well, they should use a room with no use anymore

[minor ore]

but mitsuba is still alive

oh wait

shell die too

[uneven tendon]

Nah

She will survive

[manic lark]

NUT N. BOLTS

[sudden nymph]

Why couldn’t Gappy and Joshu be roommates

[minor ore]

does gappy even like joshu

[sudden nymph]

How would that have anything to do with it

[minor ore]

why would you be roomates with someone you dont like

:/

[sudden nymph]

Because plot

[kind owl]

@sudden nymph, Your Hamon Rank is now level 35 !

[uneven tendon]

He does

[minor ore]

[sudden nymph]

And Gappy doesn’t choose which room he sleeps in btw

[uneven tendon]

Even Joshu admitted Josuke is a fine lad

[manic lark]

[sudden nymph]

I’m one level away from Blueford

[uneven tendon]

BTW, I have an unpopular opinion

Ojiro in WoU > Yotsuyu

[woeful sluice]

Maybe yoshikage's place?

[sudden nymph]

Ojiro is based

[minor ore]

why didnt i think of this

[uneven tendon]

Yeah, I think Yasuho would love sleeping in a Wall Eye

[molten crane]

same

[woeful sluice]

Better than in the samr house as josh

[uneven tendon]

*Worse

[minor ore]

i would live in the same ROOM with joshu >:3

[uneven tendon]

All the food in Kira's apartment is way too specific, it has less style

[woeful sluice]

He's been creeping on jer for most all their screentime together

[uneven tendon]

And you get to hang out with Joshu

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/839751493195923456/image0-27.png

You aren't even caught up

[molten crane]

lmao

[woeful sluice]

Fuck off I've read jojolion

[molten crane]

my favorite ppart of the Milagro Man arc was when Joshu was creeping on Yasuho

[uneven tendon]

If you hate Joshu, you clearly haven't

[uneven tendon]

Chad Joshu, even with all the bitches he could get none were as good as Yasuho

True love

[molten crane]

big facts

[cunning vapor]

WoU solos xQc

[woeful sluice]

Together not solo josh crap

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428584148651737091/837936813398032385/unknown.png

[cunning vapor]

no diff

[uneven tendon]

*Joshu champ

[molten crane]

^

[minor ore]

anyways

[uneven tendon]

No

Shit Stand out

[cunning vapor]

WoU solos DIO 😌😌😌😌😌😌😌

[olive bobcat]

yep

[molten crane]

I didn't even realize what that was until a few loops

[olive bobcat]

and most of jojos

[woeful sluice]

Dio could take it

[uneven tendon]

*Tooru solos Dio

[minor ore]

stand?
Is that a jojo ref-

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[minor ore]

So cool

[woeful sluice]

What's it gonna do to him? Make the sun come up early?

[uneven tendon]

What if one of Tooru's calamities destroys his brain?

Good luck with that

[cunning vapor]

The only ones who can bypass WoU are king crimson and soft and wet

[molten crane]

you're joking

[uneven tendon]

I don't think King Crimson could fully bypass Wonder of U

[woeful sluice]

He's vampyre

[cunning vapor]

Yeah just during time erase

[sudden nymph]

I think he just meant if you gave the stand to anyone they could beat him

[woeful sluice]

Ringo could bypass

[molten crane]

Tooru can go to his house and not invite Dio

[uneven tendon]

Like I said, dude isn't caught up

[cunning vapor]

He is avoid calamity but that’s it

[molten crane]

that works against vampires

[uneven tendon]

He can't

[signal mural]

Couldn’t calamity still apply in time erase

[woeful sluice]

Fuck off I read it

[olive bobcat]

yes, since time still flows

[sudden nymph]

Probably

[cunning vapor]

But diavolo is dodge

[molten crane]

if anything it will be a tie because as soon as diavolo kills tooru giant calamity would go his way

[woeful sluice]

Apparently you're not caught up with this fucking chat tho cuz Ive said that three tkmes

[signal mural]

what’s to say Diaovlo couldn’t trip and die trip in erased time

[cunning vapor]

But time erase end diavolo is die

[cunning vapor]

See future

[uneven tendon]

Considering the way you speak, it sounds like you're coping with the truth

[sudden nymph]

💀

[uneven tendon]

Anyways, back to Joshu

So, why do you thinks screws of all things are what represent his soul?

[sudden nymph]

He’s based

[molten crane]

cuz he screws 😎

[signal mural]

Ok but what can he do if he sees himself fated to fall and die in his fate cheating tool?

[minor ore]

lmao

[sudden nymph]

His screws can either fix something or break it down similar to how Joshu can either do good or do bad or at least that’s my theory

[molten crane]

maybe since the stand is able to take apart and reattach stuff Joshu wants to become a better human being

[woeful sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-eyeroll-dwayne-johnson-gif-4143554

[minor ore]

Cuz he has screws loose

[uneven tendon]

Yoooooo

[uneven tendon]

*He has screws in the right place

[cunning vapor]

Dang

idk

[woeful sluice]

It doesn't always

[uneven tendon]

The dude just wanted to protect his family

[uneven tendon]

His heart is in the right place, his ways of showing that aren't most of the time

But he was very heroic in the Wonder of U arc

🦾

[minor ore]

Tbh Joshu is a great character in my opinion and a great nakama to josuke

[molten crane]

Joshu says this but people still go "yeah I think joshu gonna die to Tooru"

[uneven tendon]

A fellow Joshu appreciator

[hard meteor]

Since he’s able to use screws to combine things together it’s probably meant to reference equivalent exchange

[cunning vapor]

Joshu is walking the right path. Not jobins not norisukes but the right path

[signal mural]

Does D4CLT beat WoU

[olive bobcat]

stalemate

[uneven tendon]

What an average Joshuphobe looks like

[minor ore]

Fr

[molten crane]

i think D4CLT wins

[signal mural]

Same

[olive bobcat]

while valentine is in LT he cant be touched, but hes fucked if he leaves

[uneven tendon]

What an average Joshu enjoyer looks like

[molten crane]

beautiful

[uneven tendon]

Kira was a very beautiful man indeed

[barren bough]

beautiful

[minor ore]

That’s me

[molten crane]

The whole kira family looks flames

[signal mural]

Wait

[uneven tendon]

Joshu fusion confirmed?

[minor ore]

imagine what a joshuphobe looks like

[uneven tendon]

Damn, you boy could really get a lot of bitches on your dick

[olive bobcat]

average joshuphobe

[woeful sluice]

If josh kills tooru will you all go full on cult you think?

[minor ore]

🤢 don’t give me nightmares

[white pasture]

Tooru no die except Josuke

[signal mural]

What would happen if Part 4 Kira sent Sheer Heart Attack after Wonder of U

[uneven tendon]

Something like this

[uneven tendon]

Admittedly, Joshu can't and shouldn't kill Tooru

Unless he unlocks Nut Beyond

[minor ore]

Don’t all joshu enjoyerz get bitches? 🤨

[white pasture]

probably calamity with the same result as act3 or act2 burning

[uneven tendon]

I don't

[white pasture]

yeah WOU can easily cause fire to happen

[signal mural]

Hm

[minor ore]

[molten crane]

to rock humans have the same temperature as normal humans?

[signal mural]

Notorious B.I.G beats Wonder of U right

[woeful sluice]

If Joshu die you all will start a cult

[uneven tendon]

Joshu appreciators

[signal mural]

If joshu dies they’ll reset the universe again

[uneven tendon]

We know he's alive because he's in the flash forward

[minor ore]

No araki is just gonna revive him, ik araki loves joshu too

[woeful sluice]

Died of ballfart

[minor ore]

WHO PINGED ME

[molten crane]

the only reason for JOshu to die is if it completes a charater arc for him, and if he ends strong i'd be fine with that but it's practically guaranteed that Joshu will live

[molten crane]

leave

[minor ore]

uh i dont wanna be karera

[molten crane]

like right now

[minor ore]

FINE

[molten crane]

spoiler stuff going on

[minor ore]

i dont understand why someone pings me when spoiler shit is happening but fine ill go

[signal mural]

Which kira would win in a fight

[kind owl]

@signal mural, Your Hamon Rank is now level 29 !

[uneven tendon]

8

Multiple Sheer Heart Attacks

[hard meteor]

Def Kira 8

^

[uneven tendon]

And he can also properly control them

[molten crane]

Kira 8 wins by a mile

[uneven tendon]

He also wins in terms of looks

[minor ore]

Yes and yes

[uneven tendon]

And arguably writing

[signal mural]

Is Kira 8 just better in every way

[molten crane]

what way does kira4 win

genuine question

[minor ore]

Kira 8 is also much more likeable to me atleast

[white pasture]

bite the dust

[molten crane]

that does jack shit in a 1v1

[signal mural]

probably realistically

Kira 8 is a doctor right

[hard meteor]

Bites the dust would be useless in a straight 1v1 fight

[uneven tendon]

He is

[white pasture]

hmm

literally no way

[signal mural]

Why would a doctor attack a random person

[molten crane]

kira 8 got better abilities, smarter, and looks better too

[white pasture]

kq8 still has bubbles

close range kira4 woild stilll lose

[uneven tendon]

But those are bubbles that blow up shit

[white pasture]

and long range obviously thats a free win

[uneven tendon]

And it can still fight in close range

[minor ore]

Yes and his fetishes are much better unlike Kira 4

[molten crane]

facts

[white pasture]

i guess he uses the shigechi kill method

a coin

[signal mural]

Kira4 would be the one attacking Kira8 and it would probably be done before Kira8 even knew what was going on

[uneven tendon]

Technically he shares the same fetish

[minor ore]

But he’s handsome so it doesn’t count

[uneven tendon]

Both are handsome

But part 8 Kira is hotter

[hard meteor]

Ye and it’s less weird if it’s his own hands

[minor ore]

Kira 8 is on another level, sorry

[minor ore]

Mhm

[molten crane]

Kira loves his own hands and keeps his stuff to himself
Kira4 is an ugly man who needs to kill someone like everyweek because his fetish rots

[signal mural]

Fingerguns would be the best way to attack in a melee scenario for killer queen right

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/830502868392869921/unknown.png Kira is also an appreciator of rabbits

[signal mural]

That way you can immediately press the button as you touch them

[minor ore]

Exactly, but they both keep nails, which is a harmless hobby

[molten crane]

rabbits, D4C

[uneven tendon]

Josuke's next ability: Crazy Train

[molten crane]

so you're saying the only way for kria4 to win is if Kira4 wants to fight Dr Kira when Dr Kira is just hanging around

[signal mural]

I mean

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/830792534333980712/unknown.png Me when I see Joshuphobes

[molten crane]

TRUE

[signal mural]

I don’t think a doctor is just going to kill a completely regular middle class citizen, but that citizen is a murderer so they’d be the one doing the killing

[uneven tendon]

But TBF to part 8 Kira, he isn't as savage as Josefumi

[white pasture]

josefumi went IN on aphex brothers

[hard meteor]

Fr

[molten crane]

i mean i guess but every other way the doctor always wins

[uneven tendon]

Josefumi is so cool, how Kira was his only friend

[molten crane]

the reason why Josefumi had no friends was because Josefumi couldn't find anyone as baller as him

[uneven tendon]

Best Joshu defense ever

[molten crane]

the reason why Araki gave Nut King Call to Joshu instead of originally Josuke was because Araki knew that Joshu would need an amazing stand for an amazing character

[uneven tendon]

Hell yeah

[signal mural]

To be fair

[heavy ledge]

Josefumi

[uneven tendon]

Part 8 ending will be the best shit ever TBH, all the mysteries get resolved, Josuke and Yasuho kiss, Tsurugi finally wears pants and Joshu gets a new haircut

[signal mural]

If the main protagonist just instantly disassembled people instead of having to fight them that’d be di molto anticlimactic

[heavy ledge]

Good morning

[uneven tendon]

Good morning

[heavy ledge]

Right on time

[molten crane]

Bucciarati moment

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/831312113552850975/unknown.png Joshu's only moment where he wasn't cool

[heavy ledge]

My sixth sense woke me up

[uneven tendon]

But it's okay, because he was effected by a calamity

[molten crane]

that wasn't Joshu, WoU effected him

yeah

[uneven tendon]

Joshu would never hurt his girl

💪

[molten crane]

especially since right after the Yasuho phone stuff ended, Joshu fr doesn't care

[uneven tendon]

He does care

About Yasuho

[molten crane]

i mean about his arm

[uneven tendon]

And he tries to save her from the plane door

[signal mural]

Is there any situation in which you’d be safe from a calamity while pursuing

[molten crane]

he doesn't care about his arm as much when Yasuho stopped the phone call

[uneven tendon]

I had so many arguments about this, apparently people think it's in character for him

[minor ore]

I'm still trying to figure out what's with those eyes

[true ore]

how the fuck did tooru get that plane door

[molten crane]

???

[heavy ledge]

I hope that text above isnt Dr Kira slander or you will face the consequences

[minor ore]

Why does his eye look like it's shattering

[molten crane]

it's calamity

[minor ore]

Yeah but the angry guy from before didn't have those eyes, right?

[heavy ledge]

Yes. Sit and do nothing

[hard meteor]

somehow people think joshu just decided to kill yasuho and then completely changed his mind seconds after

[molten crane]

lmao facts

[heavy ledge]

[hard meteor]

Makes no sense 💀

[signal mural]

Could you pursue with a remote stand then

[heavy ledge]

No

Someone said that about btw and we know how that ended

[uneven tendon]

People also forgot this was a thing

[true ore]

89

[minor ore]

Joshu haters explaining how he actually suffers from a severe case of bipolar disorder and isn't actually affected by a calamity

[heavy ledge]

Why the cat vid

[molten crane]

also that one guy from when the head doctor was on the bus

[uneven tendon]

Yeah

[minor ore]

thats the explaininb

f

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796353679115419648/831250974429413415/yt1s.com_-_Nikocado_Avocado_Smashes_All_Of_His_Food_360p.mp4 Joshuphobes every time he does something good

[uneven tendon]

Joshuphobia in general makes no sense

[heavy ledge]

Your sense of humour is beyond my limits

[uneven tendon]

[heavy ledge]

I cant make the connection

[uneven tendon]

😳

[true ore]

[hard meteor]

Joshuphobes explaining why randomly attempting to kill someone and stopping makes perfect sense in the story

[minor ore]

Normies will not understand

[molten crane]

lmao

[uneven tendon]

People who know Joshu has no ill intent for his family and Yasuho

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[heavy ledge]

Well this one i do bc ive seen it

And the chad dude too

But the cat leaves me clueless

[molten crane]

can't this dude just flip the puzzle piece over

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/831422298397343785/unknown.png One of my favorite Jojolion panels

But TBF to Yasuho, her mother also said this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/831422786756542464/unknown.png

[heavy ledge]

Id replace normies for boomers

[uneven tendon]

I'd replace boomers for fake Jojo fans

[minor ore]

very true, very true

[heavy ledge]

Im gonna kick ur ass

Were u talking about the memes or thebjoshuphobes

[uneven tendon]

Both

They are intertwined, just like Spin and Stands

[minor ore]

Is that a PS2 or 3 controller

[uneven tendon]

[heavy ledge]

I thought it was the memes

[uneven tendon]

PS3

[minor ore]

swagger

[heavy ledge]

Man its so fucking cold

[hard meteor]

gamer mom 💪

[true ore]

actualy it might be later

[minor ore]

jojotubers need to invest some of their useless fucking time capacity into theorizing what game is Yasuho's mom playing. Now that's the real mystery

[heavy ledge]

M going to cry

[uneven tendon]

Shame she had to ruin it by disrespecting Josuke

[true ore]

paper moon kind was a little was into jojolion

[molten crane]

I GOTCHU

[heavy ledge]

They did, i just cant remember the game

Idk if it was a sports game

[molten crane]

oh bruh

[hard meteor]

Yeah that was cringe on her part

[true ore]

yeah its a ps3 cause the chapter was out in 2013

[uneven tendon]

Let's see, that scene took place around September 2011 right?

[minor ore]

Uh

Probably

The game which Yasuho's mom was playing was found. It seems to be Resistance: Fall of Man, and it is much easier to see with the B&W scans.

[molten crane]

how do they know that

[heavy ledge]

Oh yea

[uneven tendon]

Oh shit

[heavy ledge]

A war game

[hard meteor]

Pogg

[uneven tendon]

I wonder if she played stuff like Dark Souls

Also we shouldn't judge Yasuho too harshly for being anti-gaming, since Suzuyo was a pretty bad mother

[molten crane]

ahh

[uneven tendon]

If Josuke takes her to his place, he can let her truly enjoy gaming

[heavy ledge]

[median oxide]

that game is shit

[uneven tendon]

It isn't

[lucid locust]

Ok, g4u

[minor ore]

I wonder if Asami Araki is actually a gamer as well, maybe Araki is projecting his love for gamer moms into JJL

[uneven tendon]

He is

[minor ore]

[uneven tendon]

He likes Resident Evil and he said he was hyped up for the PS5

[minor ore]

Yoooooo

[median oxide]

the controls suck

[true ore]

wait seriously araki likes resident evil

[median oxide]

in what way would disliking a game be good for me.

[uneven tendon]

I'm disappointed by the lack of Jojo gamers, we only have Kakyoin, Younger D'Arby, Josuke, a Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan character, and Yasuho's mom

[lucid locust]

g4u

[minor ore]

Yasuho will die for sure

[median oxide]

jotaro is a boomer

[minor ore]

Araki loves gaming
Yasuho hates gaming

[median oxide]

he doesnt play video games

[true ore]

well there is an hftf reference in the run

[lucid locust]

Jotaro ain’t shit anymore

[signal mural]

You say that as if the man’s grandpa wasn’t more of a gamer than him

[median oxide]

joseph is a gamer

exactly

[true ore]

joseph cheated mind that

[lucid locust]

Also cheated death

Chad move

and on his wife

Not so chad

[true ore]

people say dio had a lot of sons

shit joseph might have more

[lucid locust]

Joshu is Joseph’s son?!?!?!?

[molten crane]

what lmao

[runic adder]

[true ore]

joseph must have like 10 bastards in like 5 different countries

and knows about like 1 of them

[lucid locust]

Only explanation for his chadness

[true ore]

i wish i had nitro to use :joshuyeah:

[minor ore]

[runic adder]

cope

[true ore]

ik

[uneven tendon]

[uneven tendon]

No, he is the Joseph counterpart

[lucid locust]

Ah that explains it

[uneven tendon]

Explains why he's better than Joseph?

[heavy ledge]

Ew joseph

[hazy snow]

Joseph cheats on Suzi Q with a woman from a completely different continuity

[olive bobcat]

some things never change

[lucid locust]

Nah explains the equal levels of Chad

[pure charm]

Jojowion

[hazy snow]

furry

[minor ore]

Based pfp

[pure charm]

Based name

[hazy snow]

big tiddy goth trish

[pure charm]

Orange size titties

[hazy snow]

tiddies as big as narancia wouldnt sound so bad

[minor ore]

[hazy snow]

tho having a 50kg load on your chest would def not be good for your back

in the long run

and by that i mean in the next 20 minutes

[pure charm]

Small titties > big titties

[minor ore]

^

[sudden nymph]

Created a hypothetical move set for soft and wet if it was a Pokémon
What do you guys think and what stand should I do next

[white pasture]

go beyond

should be ghost or something

[sudden nymph]

True

[white pasture]

dats dope tho

[sudden nymph]

Who should I do next tho

[white pasture]

star plat

nahh

mmmm tusk

[sudden nymph]

I’ll try

I’ll do tusk act 4 to make it easier

[minor ore]

You could do The World

have TS as a move with one use per battle

actually no maybe just it costs a bunch of PP

makes the enemy unable to move for a turn

[sudden nymph]

I’m doing tusk first

[viral plume]

Dlet gonga

[runic adder]

What

[molten crane]

you can just make time stop an ability and have like a 10% chance of not being able to move

[gilded ether]

:)

Ch101 very good

[viral plume]

Read the next page

[gilded ether]

About to

[viral plume]

And the page after that

[gilded ether]

Ya

[viral plume]

We here see a man seconds before disaster

[molten crane]

you don't know what you're about to start

[viral plume]

I am guessing he did read the next page and is now dissapointed and just continuing the read lul

[gilded ether]

:(

[viral plume]

He is

Dont worry, I had the EXACT same reaction

[gilded ether]

Why joshu gotta be like that :(

He could have been so epic

[viral plume]

Hes consistent

[runic adder]

He will never have redemption: chapter 100

He will never have redemption: chapter 106

[viral plume]

But hey, would have liked if he did change up a little

[runic adder]

He has grown

[hard meteor]

He’s still epic

[gilded ether]

I want joshu redemption 🤬🤬

[runic adder]

But a full redemption ain’t gonna happen

Then joshu will be some lame shonen goody two shoes

[gilded ether]

So

[hard meteor]

Just had the wrong idea about fusion

[gilded ether]

He could be the next Jonathan

[viral plume]

Wha

No

[runic adder]

What

[molten crane]

nah

[runic adder]

Joshu is already better than jonathan

[viral plume]

He is not jonathan material, jonathan has had his arc throughout the entire part while this would be around the end

[gilded ether]

Banning you from real life

[quasi root]

joshu doesnt need a redemption arc

hes jesus himself

[viral plume]

Also their characters are so fkn different

[hard meteor]

Joshu has already surpassed all the jojos

[quasi root]

yes

[runic adder]

[quasi root]

his existence is his redemption arc

hes only second to the true number one god

weedwagon

[viral plume]

He is being redeemed from not existing

[gilded ether]

Ok I go finish 101 now brb

[viral plume]

Have a good one

[gilded ether]

Joshu ain't need a hand anyway

Ch100 soiler ||Also is mamezuku actually dead||

[hard meteor]

Yea

[gilded ether]

::::::(((((

[minor ore]

[brittle lodge]

soiler

\

[still juniper]

some guy stoopid idiot don't know things

[hard meteor]

what

[brittle lodge]

hes doing this in every part, i guess describing the part?

[hard meteor]

Oh

Cringe

[brittle lodge]

very

[olive bobcat]

except idk if they actually got past DIU

[brittle lodge]

yea

except they know tusk....

[olive bobcat]

:/

[brittle lodge]

they say theyve read sbr

[sharp frost]

which chapter is part 8 on cause mangadex is down now

[molten crane]

106

[olive bobcat]

106

[molten crane]

107 coming out in 12 days

[sinful bramble]

I only started reading (and caught up with) JoJolion when it was at Chapter 104, feels good to be present for a new chapter again

[sharp frost]

btw is there any other website like mangadex I can read part 8 on?

[kind owl]

@sharp frost, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[crisp vector]

ONLY TWELVE DAYS

lets go dude

[olive bobcat]

mangasee link in pins

[covert lynx]

Who has the best ora

[crisp vector]

jotaro

[sharp frost]

jojo

[crisp vector]

^

[covert lynx]

Johnny ora best

[uneven tendon]

Leak from chapter 107

[hard meteor]

Pogg

[sharp frost]

shut

[uneven tendon]

Nah, only used it in the very end of the part

But Chumimin was very cool

[covert lynx]

So what it's still the best

[uneven tendon]

Josuke had the best ORA

[covert lynx]

Uh

[molten crane]

*Josefumi

[covert lynx]

His oras sound weird

It sounds like a nerd trying to say ora

[molten crane]

that would be ebautiful, but we'd probably get that in chapter 108, chapter 107 is gonna have flashback man staring straight at him at the end of the chapter

[uneven tendon]

Chapter 108 should be about Karera's return

[crisp vector]

how many more chapters yall think jojolion is gonna be

[kind owl]

@crisp vector, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !

[molten crane]

it'll end on chapter 126

[heavy ledge]

josefumi

[crisp vector]

bet

three more years

actually thats more like two

[molten crane]

yeah at first i thought it would be late 2023 but then something happened so it might end early 2023

[sudden nymph]

Leak from chapter 108

[brittle lodge]

scott

[molten crane]

hey all, scott here

[sudden nymph]

Hey all, Scott here and I’m the main villain!

[teal brook]

I always somehow knew

[molten crane]

maybe

[uneven tendon]

Leak from chapter 109

Joshu eats a New Locacaca and gets his arm back, plus he becomes more buffed

And he becomes to powerful that his screws are unaffected by the calamities

And he unlocks Nut Beyond

[molten crane]

The Ultimate Nut

[uneven tendon]

2nd

The Ultimate Nut is the Infinite Nut Over Heaven

[olive bobcat]

chapter 110

[uneven tendon]

Which Joshu can achieve by being nice

[hard meteor]

Karera v Kaato less go

[molten crane]

your beehive hair is nothing compared to my circle

[uneven tendon]

Nut King Call foreshadowing back in chapter 7

[junior coral]

how

[molten crane]

hmm, a teddy bear

[patent merlin]

TOORU WAS ALWAYS THERE

[uneven tendon]

Just like NKC

[runic adder]

Every single meme you make is incredibly crusty

How

[molten crane]

did not expect this

[uneven tendon]

[runic adder]

What kind of poll is that, you didn’t list everyone individually

[hard meteor]

Based 45%

[patent merlin]

He can't

[molten crane]

yeah it's only up to 5

[patent merlin]

It's YouTube polls

[runic adder]

And I’m betting it’s cuz most of your fans are chad jjl supporters

[molten crane]

so I just chose the ones most liekly to get votes

[runic adder]

Sad!

[winter spade]

How you gonna group giorno, jolyne, Gappy and Jonathan into the same category?

[molten crane]

true true

[uneven tendon]

[winter spade]

That true

[molten crane]

there's only 5, I just grouped together the oens I thought wouldn't get as many votes

but it seems I have underestimated stoen ocean hype and jjl fans

I thought there were only 3 jojolion fans

[uneven tendon]

Honestly, instead of calling part 8 Josuke Gappy, we should call him Cruely

[runic adder]

Make another one but only the bottom row

To narrow it down

[uneven tendon]

Classic Cruely

[molten crane]

yeah I'm gonna do that

[molten crane]

but in 2 days because i'm uploading tomorrow

and I don't like posting on the community tab more than once

a day

[heavy ledge]

that teddy bear looks plain sad

[uneven tendon]

Maybe it was Kei's teddy bear from the Kira and Josefumi flashbacks?

Another foreshadowing

[heavy ledge]

theres full of teddy bears in jjl

but no lions ofc

[uneven tendon]

Araki is a fraud

Instead of giving us more flashbacks, he gave us the A. Phex twins

[minor ore]

do you think araki knew the plot of jojolion before starting it

or is he winging it

i think hes winging it personally

[uneven tendon]

I think he had a general idea

But it did shift quite a bit

[minor ore]

but the point were at right now do u think he planned

[runic adder]

yea

[uneven tendon]

Yeah

[minor ore]

cuz i know aot author knew the end from the start

[runic adder]

foreshadowing and characters are returning and paying off

[minor ore]

that ive noticed too

[uneven tendon]

JK Rowling?

[runic adder]

hes changed it before tho

[minor ore]

jk rowling too

[runic adder]

when he started aot he had a different ending in mind

[hard meteor]

Aot ending changed before

[minor ore]

not the end but the secret

large nutsack

in the basement

[runic adder]

and it probably changed its ending now

[kind owl]

@runic adder, Your Hamon Rank is now level 50 !

[runic adder]

woah spoilers

[minor ore]

[runic adder]

[uneven tendon]

Considering it was said in the very start of Jojolion that "this is a story about breaking a curse", Araki at least had some idea of what to do

[minor ore]

big balls

[runic adder]

we dont

its not revealed until later

[minor ore]

i forgot about the curse

[uneven tendon]

Didn't you also say part 8 has no real plot and full of filler?

[minor ore]

at least its not the ugly version of clearly youy havent read jojolion

no that was a meme

the battles are longer so its not really filler

[minor ore]

yes that one

[uneven tendon]

It's not ugly, it's beautiful

Haruno my beloved

[elfin tangle]

[hard meteor]

araki probably had a rough outline of where he wanted the part to go but some things definitely shifted/got changed down the line

[minor ore]

did he know kira before part 4

[uneven tendon]

😍 😍 😍

[minor ore]

you know the animation at the beginning of the anime version of part 4

was that in the manga

the one with kira making breakfast

[uneven tendon]

No

That was anime exclusive

[minor ore]

thats what i thought

they could do that with other ones

[uneven tendon]

Wdym?

[runic adder]

what scenes would they add?

[minor ore]

idk im high as fuck bro talking about jojolion

[molten crane]

a llot of tooruu if he's main villain

[minor ore]

wheres king crimson jojolion

[hard meteor]

Ok

[heavy ledge]

araki probably knew the ending but then he came up with stuff in the middle

[minor ore]

remember that theory

[uneven tendon]

Maybe show Anasui as a woman before his first full appearance, as a hint to the ability of his Stand?

[runic adder]

it was a design retcon, 99% they are just going manasui

[molten crane]

manasui lmao

[uneven tendon]

But they could utilize that to the fullest

[runic adder]

even if it has a "canon explanation" for how he could change his gender, anasui was stated by araki to be a design retcon

theres nothing else to it

[uneven tendon]

He didn't say that was a retcon though, he just said he wanted to make a androgynous character

[minor ore]

notice the color of the lipstick

[runic adder]

and he failed by making him look too much like a female, so he decided to change it

[runic adder]

those lipstick colors arent canon on the left and right

[minor ore]

fuck

[runic adder]

and technically neither is gappy's

[minor ore]

that wouldve been so good

[uneven tendon]

Nah

[runic adder]

ew beta soft and wet

so glad we got the s&w we have now

[uneven tendon]

I am more of a normal lips kinda guy

[minor ore]

me too

[uneven tendon]

[minor ore]

i think johnny looks stupid

with blue

[uneven tendon]

Get out

[minor ore]

and tooru with lipstick also stupid

but thats unofficial i think

^