jojolion

[long shadow]

even worse

[junior coral]

Is Kaato the law? Is that justifiable to kill a child?

Send him to juvy or something

get him help

[near cedar]

Did i say she was correct?

[junior coral]

she murdered a child

[near cedar]

I did not

[junior coral]

I'm talking to Flame

They think that it's justified

[long shadow]

Naw im save myself and my kid

[junior coral]

That doesn't make what she did not wrong

[sudden nymph]

Imo you shouldn’t kill anyone no matter how terrible they are two wrongs don’t make a right

[long shadow]

war?

[junior coral]

Idgaf what you would do in that situation

[long shadow]

self defense?

[near cedar]

The Punisher disagrees

[junior coral]

Neither of those situations fit this scenario

[long shadow]

im talking to Dino Aids

[sudden nymph]

Self defense is the only exception

[junior coral]

She was not in immediate danger, in fact, it was pre meditated murder. It wasn't self defense at all

[long shadow]

so not war

[junior coral]

Self defense meaning he posed an immediate threat to her

which he didn't

[sudden nymph]

I hate war

[long shadow]

he posed a threat to her son

[near cedar]

War is bad

[olive bobcat]

war is pretty cringe yeah

[near cedar]

Not after Jobin knocked him out with Speed King he doesn't

[junior coral]

he tried to burn their house down, but he is still a literal child. She has absolutely no right to take the law into her own hands.

[long shadow]

eh I think its justifiable in situations.

[sudden nymph]

The rule changes a bit when it’s a kid for me

[long shadow]

like if someone is abusive

[junior coral]

yeah you don't kill kids

That kid was sick in the head he needed help

[long shadow]

OK I ADMIT

What she did

Wasnt Entirely Right

[zenith blaze]

Was good 👏

[long shadow]

but I would do same

[junior coral]

Okay idc what you would do

it's still wrong

morally incorrect in that situation

[long shadow]

in the eyes of law

its wrong

[junior coral]

Morally it's wrong too

[long shadow]

actually depends on the country

not rlly

[junior coral]

If she had killed like a rapist pedophile or something I could get past it

[long shadow]

morally its fine

[junior coral]

But she killed a kid

[long shadow]

eh kid was weird

[junior coral]

That isn't justification

nowhere close

[long shadow]

sure it is

weird kid

[near cedar]

Bruh

[primal dagger]

What country would it be legal to kill a kid that's already been knocked out?

[junior coral]

^^

[long shadow]

lots of em

[junior coral]

Cap

[near cedar]

Name one

[long shadow]

one where theres no laws

[junior coral]

Can you name a country with no laws Flame

[near cedar]

There is no such place

[long shadow]

certain area's in mexico rn

run by the cartel

[near cedar]

...

Those places still have laws

The laws are just being ignored

[long shadow]

cartel is the law there

[near cedar]

No

They are criminals

[junior coral]

So you think that it's justified because in places in Mexico where the mob runs the city it would be okay

Okay

[long shadow]

Venezuela

Brazil

Iraq

[hearty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/spank-spanking-looneytunes-foghornleghorn-gif-7391212

[primal dagger]

It's not legal in those countries lmao

What?

[minor ore]

??

Go touch some grass lmao

[junior coral]

Yeah really

[sudden nymph]

There is a city with no laws but no countries

[junior coral]

So because there are cities with no laws, that makes it justified to murder a child, in a country with laws

okay

[minor ore]

anywhere is legal if nobody can see it

[junior coral]

Good point

Such a good point

If I kill a kid in a forest with no one around, did I really even do it?

[sudden nymph]

I wasn’t saying that I just like bringing up cool facts

[junior coral]

If no one saw me I should be fine

[junior coral]

Flame is trying to use that as part of their argument

[sudden nymph]

Oh ok

[minor ore]

Anyone trying to defend Kaato's actions is literally just projecting the fact that they've been bullied in elementary

[junior coral]

^^

"Murdering children is okay if the kid is weird"

[long shadow]

Breh idc if someone has to sacrifice someone else or themselves for their kid then the answer is someone else( I will admit she shouldnt have done it too a kid and more like a bad adult but)

[junior coral]

Okay so you admit that she was wrong in that situation

[long shadow]

wrongish

[junior coral]

Nope

It was totally wrong

[long shadow]

not entirely right not entirely wrong

[junior coral]

This isn't about what she could have done because she did the wrong thing

no it is entirely wrong lol

[primal dagger]

What city? I looked one up and it's in America and it seems they still have their own rules you have to follow, they're just free from government laws. I would assume no killing children would be something you'd have to follow there.

[junior coral]

she killed a kid who was knocked out to save her own butt when that wasn't her call to make

[long shadow]

eh morals and laws are human constructs

[minor ore]

What she should have done is, she should have made up an excuse, rushed the kid to the hospital and sacrificed herself shortly after

[junior coral]

Killing children being bad is a pretty universal human idea

[near cedar]

Genius argument

[junior coral]

Are you like a psychopath or something?

Like how do you defend this?

[long shadow]

not rlly i wouldnt kill a kid in any situation

[storm fjord]

depends the kid for me

[long shadow]

nor do i ever wanna see one get hurt

[near cedar]

Also isn't it traditionally the dad of the Higashikatas who sacrifices himself

[sudden nymph]

I don’t think it’s in America

[long shadow]

its not

although their is a small area in america without any laws

[junior coral]

To quote you, Me: That isn't justification
nowhere close
Flame — Today at 9:09 AM
sure it is
weird kid

[junior coral]

No it's the mom

[hard meteor]

The moms have to sacrifice too

[long shadow]

true kid was pretty weird

[junior coral]

Tomoko, Norisuke IV's mom sacrificed herself

[hard meteor]

Norisukes mom did it In order to save him

[junior coral]

yea

[near cedar]

interesting that you say you'd never kill a child even tho here you said you'd do the same thing Kaato did

[long shadow]

ig they just take turns

mom sacifices to save her kid

then dad

[near cedar]

these two things contradict themselves

[long shadow]

for the grandkid

I changed my mind

Realized the flaw

[zenith blaze]

Cat toe

[long shadow]

I still wouldnt sacrifice myself tho

[hard meteor]

Finally no more defending child murder

[junior coral]

I don't really care what you would do we're discussing a moral dilemma lol

[long shadow]

morals are weird

[storm fjord]

if josuke had a kid, would it have the rock disease?

[long shadow]

no

[junior coral]

no

[hard meteor]

Probably not

[long shadow]

i tihnk

yeah no

[hard meteor]

It’s unclear if the joestars have it

[junior coral]

Holly only got it because the Head Doctor tried to stop her from yapping her mouth

[long shadow]

unless he has a kid in the

[junior coral]

The Joestar's don't have it, Johnny uses the Saint's Corpse to dispell the disease

[uneven tendon]

Technically Norisuke's mom was the first and so far only to sacrifice herself

[junior coral]

Kira never got it and as far as we know none of his ancestors got it either

[long shadow]

if he has a kid in the Higashikata family

they will

[junior coral]

Yeah that's a given

[long shadow]

unless they break the curse

[uneven tendon]

Also, it's a good thing Caato didn't sacrifice herself, because she was pregnant with Joshu at the time

💪

[junior coral]

No she wasn't?

[long shadow]

she wasnt

[uneven tendon]

She was pregnant

[junior coral]

I thought she went to prison after all the kids were born

No she was pregnant with Daiya

[storm fjord]

with daiya probably

[long shadow]

uh jobin was 11

[junior coral]

Joshu was a toddler

[uneven tendon]

Daiya was born like 4 years later

[storm fjord]

o

[near cedar]

Daiya bleh

[uneven tendon]

That scene took place 20 years prior to Jojolion

So 1991

[junior coral]

!w Caato Higashikata

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Kaato_Higashikata

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Kaato Higashikata

Kaato Higashikata (東方 花都, Higashikata Kāto) is a tertiary character featured in the eighth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, JoJolion.

[long shadow]

who cares if Daiya was borm

[hard meteor]

We don’t know that for sure though kiras dad died when he was roughly 9 the age where the disease starts showing signs and we don’t know a single thing about the joestars

[long shadow]

she was an actual attempted rapist. and tried to make gappy her slave

[zenith blaze]

👏

[uneven tendon]

But without Daiya, Joshu couldn't fulfill his dream

[hard meteor]

Meh

[uneven tendon]

You don't want to see the Higashikatas grow mushrooms?

[long shadow]

yes

[near cedar]

I want Daiya to get punished for being a cunt

But for some reason she doesn't

[uneven tendon]

Same tbh

I guess she learned her lesson after the CKB fight

[zenith blaze]

She already got hit by a plane door 😭

[uneven tendon]

Like most Stand users in part 4

[long shadow]

it was 21 years wasnt it

[storm fjord]

is mushroom hunting a thing people do, or is it just joshu being joshu?

[long shadow]

cause 15 years in jail

[near cedar]

It's a thing people do

[long shadow]

then 6 years when no one knew

[uneven tendon]

She committed that murder 5 years prior to that

Not 6

[hard meteor]

The plane door didn’t hit her

It was just impact from the house

[minor ore]

Who is the most unliked member in the higashikata family for you

[uneven tendon]

Jobin

[minor ore]

Wow I never expected that

[uneven tendon]

Attavked his dad and Yasuho and wanted to a kill a girl Tsurugi knows

[storm fjord]

i dont like caato that much

[uneven tendon]

And burned down the orchard

[minor ore]

Understandable

Ig it's daiya for me

[hard meteor]

Same with daiya

[uneven tendon]

I can kind of get why Caato did what she did, especially since sacrificing yourself while pregnant is pretty shit

[minor ore]

What is Daiya even good at

nothing

[uneven tendon]

Being supportive of Joshu

Chess

[minor ore]

Okay anything other than that

[long shadow]

Daiya is the worse

[minor ore]

^^

[primal dagger]

Joshu shouldn't be enabled

[olive bobcat]

sexual assault of amnesiacs

[minor ore]

sexual harassment

[hard meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-waiting-sitting-the-dude-big-lebowski-gif-12564289

[minor ore]

'good at'

[storm fjord]

having people not step on her shadow

[long shadow]

Kaato is milf so that give her points above Daiya

[minor ore]

Lmaaao

[uneven tendon]

[minor ore]

So who is the most liked member in the higashikata family for you?

[runic adder]

joshu is enabled, his dad lets him be idol trash and not contribute to society

[uneven tendon]

Joshu

[runic adder]

like, best person or who i like the most

[storm fjord]

i like norisuke and jobin a lot

[minor ore]

Who you like the most

[runic adder]

jobin

[minor ore]

Norisuke best dad

[storm fjord]

yes

[hard meteor]

Probably Norisuke or joshu

[uneven tendon]

Actually, Gregorio was a better dad

[runic adder]

norisuke kinda a shitty dad but its understandable why he is

[uneven tendon]

Because he is too biased towards Jobin and Daiya

[runic adder]

had to raise kids on his own for 15 years, and caato doesnt really help much when shes back

[runic adder]

yea enabling their behavior is cringe

[long shadow]

norisuke is best

not even close

[uneven tendon]

Gregorio Zeppeli > best Josuke

[minor ore]

I am sorry but can you remind me who that was

[runic adder]

gyros dad

[minor ore]

Ohhh I remember

[runic adder]

he didnt really do much, but he helped foster wekapipos sister i think

that makes him pretty based

[minor ore]

Yeaah

[uneven tendon]

He also taught Gyro to follow his dreams

[minor ore]

Norisuke is such a wholesome dad
He is the best

[dire furnace]

Norisuke is best dad

[uneven tendon]

Unless you remember he was fine with letting Daiya keep Josuke as a slave

[long shadow]

yeah i dont see joshu

[minor ore]

He was alarmed when he saw them together

[long shadow]

she was pregnant with him

[hard meteor]

Yeah so the flashback happened in 91

[long shadow]

what flashback

[uneven tendon]

Intriverted Jobin > extroverted Jobin

[uneven tendon]

Chapter 64 is mostly a flashback

[dire furnace]

dead Jobin > alive Jobin

[minor ore]

yeah

[uneven tendon]

True

[minor ore]

Whyyy

[uneven tendon]

At least now he can't kill people for no reason

[minor ore]

True

[uneven tendon]

Or attempt

#NorisukeIsAlive gang

[dire furnace]

if Jobin is dead Norisuke is definitely dead too

[long shadow]

jobin gonna fuse with tooru

[hard meteor]

No

[uneven tendon]

I mean, Yasuho was also attacked by Speed King once, and she obviously survived that

[dire furnace]

truueee

[hard meteor]

Beetle tendency 2>>>>>>>>awful fusions theory’s

[dire furnace]

Jooru

[uneven tendon]

Jobin knocked him out, he himself said he's still alive

[dire furnace]

JOORU GANG RISE UP

[long shadow]

SPEED OF U

[minor ore]

Btw
The body tsurugi was dragging. Are you guys sure it's norisuke
I know it's a dumb question but I just need to hear you

[uneven tendon]

Nah, Caatooru

[long shadow]

WHEN PEOPLE PURSUE JOORU THEY FUCKING MELT

[hard meteor]

Yeah it’s Norisuke

He has the same wounds

[minor ore]

Aight thanks

[uneven tendon]

I think it might be Karera disguised ad Norisuke

[hard meteor]

Karera

[minor ore]

You have a thing for karera haha

[hard meteor]

Cmon dawg

[uneven tendon]

It was a joke

[minor ore]

Where did we last see her

[dire furnace]

WoU kinda looks like a heater in color anyways . . its all coming together

[long shadow]

didnt she get a pipe up eye socket

[uneven tendon]

It's probably Norisuke

[olive bobcat]

thats kei

[uneven tendon]

In Vitamin C

But only in flashbacks

[minor ore]

Yeaah

[hard meteor]

Nah that was keis death

[uneven tendon]

Kei didn't die, her death is too shit

[unique fable]

[kind owl]

@unique fable, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !

[uneven tendon]

Araki is better than that

[dire furnace]

Kei is dead. dead as hell

[minor ore]

Kei's death felt so... incomplete

Like that was so stupid

[unique fable]

Who is kei?…

[dire furnace]

Holy is gonna wake up with only half a kid left.

[minor ore]

The maid

[hard meteor]

It was an awful death

[unique fable]

Ah

[uneven tendon]

Considering the death he gave her it's best she'll be alive

[unique fable]

I’m only on chapn4

[long shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-edp-huh-what-shocked-wow-gif-17151607

[dire furnace]

Jotaro maid

WHY ARE YOU HERE THEN

[long shadow]

Tooru looking at little yasuho

[runic adder]

begone from this channel

[dire furnace]

GET OOOUUUTTT

[runic adder]

dude you will ge spoiled so hard

[unique fable]

Ok

[minor ore]

get out!!!

[runic adder]

please, for your own good

[uneven tendon]

||Technically Kira is Jotaro||

[unique fable]

I’m out

[uneven tendon]

[dire furnace]

theyre twins

[minor ore]

Who is your favourite jojolion character?

[uneven tendon]

Nope

[unique fable]

I’ll be back when I catch up

[dire furnace]

siblings*

[unique fable]

[runic adder]

jobin

[hard meteor]

Joshu

[runic adder]

rai comes second for me

[minor ore]

Aye

[long shadow]

yasuho

[zenith blaze]

Mitsuba 🥵 🥵

[dire furnace]

Jooru

[long shadow]

her nose is too pointy

[minor ore]

josuke, wonder of u, rai

[uneven tendon]

My favorite Jojolion characters are Kira, Tooru, and Joshu

[runic adder]

ok rock nose simp

[minor ore]

The stand? Not Tooru?

[runic adder]

wonder of u is tooru tho

[minor ore]

yeah

Cool

[zenith blaze]

Rock nose makes her hotter

[runic adder]

if you mean wonder of u you just mean design correct?

[uneven tendon]

Tooru > Wonder of U

[dire furnace]

WoU is Toorus step father figure

[long shadow]

THATS THE WONDER OF YOU

[minor ore]

I think I like mamezuku the most :3

[runic adder]

jobin alt detected

[minor ore]

no, character too

[long shadow]

yasuho best

[minor ore]

Mamezuku and yasuho

[runic adder]

hes just tooru with an old man voice

[minor ore]

Yasuho is awesome

[minor ore]

yeah

[runic adder]

yasuho is based

[long shadow]

there literally the same person

[uneven tendon]

I think people overestimate WoU's intelligence tbh, considering that in stuff like it's speeches it's probably Tooru talking through the Stand

[dire furnace]

dilf tooru 🥵🥵🥵

[zenith blaze]

Wou better than tooru!!

[uneven tendon]

No

[long shadow]

yasuho has just been getting assulted this entire manga breh

[uneven tendon]

Tooru is better than WoU

[dire furnace]

WoU > Tooru

[zenith blaze]

Yes !!

[uneven tendon]

Me when I see people who don't like Tooru

[dire furnace]

im Tooruphobic

[minor ore]

ew

[long shadow]

tooru pedo

[minor ore]

I am sorry but.... WoU has a better drip...
But I still love tooru

[dire furnace]

i hate Tooru

[minor ore]

cease to exist

[long shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/edp-edp445-gif-21257228

[uneven tendon]

Yeah

[dire furnace]

Jooru tho . . yeah , he's cool

[long shadow]

tooru when he saw little yasuho

[uneven tendon]

You're half redeemed

[minor ore]

Okii now tell me
What is your favourite stand in jojolion

[hard meteor]

Nah fuck jooru

[uneven tendon]

But he wasn't sexually interested in her back then

[runic adder]

doggy style or soft and wet

probably soft and wet

[dire furnace]

ok i will 🥵🥵🥵

[runic adder]

there are so many good stands

[long shadow]

breh he went to the same highschool as her to hit

[uneven tendon]

Nut King Call

[long shadow]

he checked up on her every few years

[hard meteor]

Soft and wet

[long shadow]

WOU

[dire furnace]

show this to someone who hasnt read jojos

[long shadow]

best stand

the drip is unreal

[minor ore]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-up-beat-up-gang-attack-fight-back-jaxson-ryker-gif-14720264

[zenith blaze]

Awaking ||| leaves 🥵 🥵

[minor ore]

tooru enjoyers to tooru haters

[uneven tendon]

Yeah

[dire furnace]

Toorus flow of calamity but he starts rapping

[minor ore]

Daang

[long shadow]

not my fault he likes little girls

[uneven tendon]

People who dislike Joshu amd Tooru need to

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-cope-gif-20110606

[uneven tendon]

[minor ore]

You really like mitsuba

[long shadow]

alr ima go read some kaiju no 8

[dire furnace]

Tooru is SBR verse Hayato

[long shadow]

heard its good

[uneven tendon]

Tooru is actually alternate universe Rohan

[minor ore]

Is this a joke?

[runic adder]

lol yea

[uneven tendon]

Tooru Kishibe

Has a nice flow to it

[minor ore]

What is tooru's fullname anyway

[dire furnace]

Rohan eats spiders Tooru eats wasps , it makes sense.

[dire furnace]

Tooru Tooru

[uneven tendon]

Tooru Pierre Polnareff

[minor ore]

Mitsuba is underappreciated

tooru for real tho is like a mix of kars, kira and diavolo/doppio with a bit of yukako

[uneven tendon]

Nah

[sudden nymph]

Satoru’s personality is better than Tooru

[uneven tendon]

She only got development in like chapter 77

[minor ore]

theyre the same person

[uneven tendon]

Before that, there was nothing to her

[dire furnace]

Tooru Tooru and his brother Luigi Tooru

[uneven tendon]

[sudden nymph]

I know but they feel like they are two completely different people they don’t feel the same

[minor ore]

thats the point

araki succeeded in writting the two

[sudden nymph]

I don’t like that personally then

[dire furnace]

WoU is AU Diavolo

[uneven tendon]

They aren't THAT different, WoU is more of a reflection of Tooru's genuine personality

[uneven tendon]

So cute together

[dire furnace]

but he got a stand that actually made people stop pursuing him instead of lame erasing time

[minor ore]

actually wonder of u can do whatever it wants

actually insane no limit stand

[dire furnace]

Tooru beats Giorno

[minor ore]

probably lol

[dire furnace]

GER would be trapped in a stalemate while Tooru gets to do whatever he wants thus winning by default.

[minor ore]

yeah

people are saying tooru wouldnt be able to counter this

[minor ore]

I hate this

https://tenor.com/view/ger-gold-experience-requiem-anime-jjba-giorno-gif-14486008

but actually wonder of u just wouldnt let that happen

[near cedar]

how would it stop it lmao

With a calamity?

[dire furnace]

WoU bends down to pick up a penny and it misses

[minor ore]

GER vs WoU would be a great fight

[sudden nymph]

Then I don’t think araki has done a good job of showing that

[minor ore]

with the logic that we're presented with, a calamity would be on its way before he lifts his finger

[near cedar]

Cool

[minor ore]

so yeah

[near cedar]

And it would not hit him

So

again

How will he stop it

[minor ore]

wai

[dire furnace]

stalemate

[minor ore]

t

[minor ore]

what are we talking about ?

[dire furnace]

which Tooru wins by default since hes not actually trapped in said stalemate

[near cedar]

How would WOU stop this

[dire furnace]

while Giorno would be stuck

[dire furnace]

calamity would prevent it from reaching him

[minor ore]

can GER reset shit and make projectiles at the same time?

i dont think so

[near cedar]

It probably can't

But it doesn't take that long to flick a piece of rock

[sudden nymph]

If it’s a passive ability then Absolutely but we don’t know

[minor ore]

wouldn't pursuit factor make it so calamities become quicker

[near cedar]

Has that ever happened

[sudden nymph]

I mean if return to zero is a passive ability

[near cedar]

Has a calamity ever arrived faster based on how close somebody was to landing a hit

[minor ore]

kei died instantly

[near cedar]

I only noticed that depending on how close you are to hitting him it hits you harder

[sudden nymph]

Actually she didn’t hers took a while

[junior coral]

She died within like a page of getting hit

[minor ore]

yes

[near cedar]

So either GER can flick a pebble faster then the calamity, or they stalemate

Is where we are at

[minor ore]

jobin bled to death from punching nothingness and looking at tooru

[minor ore]

they stalemate with WoU having the upper hand

and like

this aint even that deadly lol

https://tenor.com/view/requiem-anime-fight-jojo-gif-16966667

[near cedar]

It's not?

In what universe is it not

[junior coral]

GIORNO

[minor ore]

it just kinda grazes diavolo like born this way

[near cedar]

Made a big ass hole in Diavolo's hand

Now imagine that hitting you in the fucking heart

[minor ore]

my arguement, giorno is stupid

boom lol

[near cedar]

And it didn't graze him it fired trough his hand

And obliterated a stone pillar behind him

[true ore]

isnt that a piece of gold experience

[minor ore]

maybe?

who cares

[near cedar]

it is

A piece of it's shell

[true ore]

okay

[minor ore]

ok i bet calamity can reach him fast enough

"reach"

[true ore]

idk if he could stop calamities

and hear me out

[near cedar]

He can

[minor ore]

he can

[true ore]

calamities cross dimensions and such i believe

[minor ore]

no?

[near cedar]

Wot

[true ore]

well

[near cedar]

Where'd you get that

[true ore]

LT

[near cedar]

Wot

[minor ore]

WoU is not love train

[true ore]

it phases through the fabirc of space

[near cedar]

Love Train sends bad luck away from the user

To other places

Not dimensions

places

[minor ore]

ok but wou is not lt

[true ore]

yeah

okay

[near cedar]

And that

[true ore]

i was just saying that those things that were redirected almost become calamities

in a sense

[minor ore]

hm?

[true ore]

So the redirected things

when they disperse to other places

in no way are WoU and LT the same thing

[minor ore]

yeah that the thematical relevance of wou and how its thematically linked to love train

[true ore]

just an odd similarity

[minor ore]

yes

[charred roost]

Ya guys ever convince your friend king crimson is in part 8 from a meme

And just roll wit it

[junior coral]

He is in Part 8

[dire furnace]

canon

[hard meteor]

Real

[dire furnace]

Soft and Wet: Go Beyond: Plus Ultra

[charred roost]

That’s the meme I sent to him

And he’s convinced king crimson is in it

[uneven tendon]

I'm disappointed Gappy got King Crimson, and not Star Platinum

[charred roost]

So me and my other friend who are caught up are also convincing him the stag beetle fight foreshadowed king crimson

[minor ore]

I just saw a video talking about a theory that Gappy has KC

What does that mean

How

[charred roost]

I don’t know either. We’re just making this shit up on the fly

[uneven tendon]

Maybe Gappy also has Hermit Purple?

[charred roost]

It’s cuz of this

[minor ore]

Gappy has KC? how????

[charred roost]

Pffft

[minor ore]

Gappy has KC because S&W: Go Beyond is actually every Stand from every universe combined confirmed????

[olive bobcat]

yeah

[charred roost]

Facts

[hard meteor]

Yep

Pretty soon he’ll get whitesnake

[charred roost]

Lmao he just brings out killer queen for no reason

[uneven tendon]

He has both Killer Queen's

[minor ore]

Ok Go beyond is srsly just Stray cat

[uneven tendon]

Nah

[minor ore]

except instead of exploding

it SPINS

ur insides

[charred roost]

Soft and wet is just skinny act 4

[minor ore]

not rly

[uneven tendon]

Nope

[charred roost]

Yo imagine Tooru next chapter just goes “wonder of u act 2”

[minor ore]

Feeling that

[charred roost]

Lmao bro I’m joking

[minor ore]

the kaato fight will be the last fight

of jojolion

[true ore]

no

[charred roost]

I could see it going either way

[olive bobcat]

kaato is an accomplice lol

[minor ore]

kaato is rock woman

[hard meteor]

No

[minor ore]

Go Beyond flexes so hard it revives both Johnny and Gyro and the spirits of both help Gappy create an superultraextradimensional spin bubble that is so strong it merges the SBR and PB universes together

i bet

[sudden nymph]

Replace Giorno vs Diavolo with Jonathan vs Dio

[uneven tendon]

The last fight of Jojolion is Josuke vs Joshu

[hard meteor]

Joshu wins

[minor ore]

joshu got the bonk

[hard meteor]

Sorry for the spoiler but it’s true

[uneven tendon]

But he's still alive

[true ore]

Joshu will get NKC requiem over heaven

[sudden nymph]

Yeah probably

[minor ore]

Maybe

[true ore]

and just kill josuke

[minor ore]

btd?

[true ore]

No

[uneven tendon]

*NKC Ultimate Requiem Over Heaven

[minor ore]

ooga

[sudden nymph]

Balloons tower defense

Trollface

[uneven tendon]

BTW, let's talk about Locacaca organization Stands

[true ore]

[uneven tendon]

Aside from Tooru, who has the strongest Stand?

[true ore]

depends

[minor ore]

tubular bells

[true ore]

tom has a good stand

[junior coral]

Vitamin C

[sudden nymph]

Doctor wu never fails

[true ore]

and urban guerrilla has a good stand

but they need setup

[uneven tendon]

What about the A. Phex Twins' Stands?

[sudden nymph]

No absolutely not

[true ore]

sadly they got shit stand

[hard meteor]

Damo and poor Tom

[sudden nymph]

But wu tomoki never fails

[uneven tendon]

What about Aisho's Stand?

[sudden nymph]

Who?

[junior coral]

Who is Aisho

[hard meteor]

Bruh

You guys forgot about aisho chad

[uneven tendon]

Aisho, Doobie Wah Stand user

[sudden nymph]

Ohhhhh

[hard meteor]

Doobie wahs pretty good

[junior coral]

Oh because I could have sworn it was Aisho My Balls to Your Mom

[olive bobcat]

:/

[sudden nymph]

It’s not the best for close counter but it’s still good

[uneven tendon]

I don't think the Schott Key Stands are that bad

They mainly require skill

[sudden nymph]

They aren’t bad but compared to all the other stands they are no where Near the top stands

[uneven tendon]

Also, it was said that they played soccer since they were kids

But now that we know the origins of the rock humans

It doesn't make sense

[sudden nymph]

Plot twist they aren’t rock humans

[uneven tendon]

True

TBH I wish Dr. Wu had a Stand form

Because it's basically just rocks

[sudden nymph]

He’s humble since he never fails

[uneven tendon]

Yes

Unlike that greedy bastard Tooru, chad Wu wanted to evolve science

And help the public

[gilded ether]

Is there a main villain yet

[rugged pilot]

Yes

[gilded ether]

Sick

[rugged pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/pjj-jojo-wonder-of-u-gif-18241207

[gilded ether]

Around what chapter are they introduced

[rugged pilot]

Very late

[gilded ether]

Bummer

I just got to ch63

[rugged pilot]

Chapter 84 is when the main villain begins to be introduced

[kind owl]

@rugged pilot, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

[gilded ether]

Alright

So not horribly long from now

[rugged pilot]

The real battle doesn’t begin tho until 89 or 90

[gilded ether]

Unfortunate

[rugged pilot]

It’s definitely worth it tho

[uneven tendon]

Actually, he was introduced in chapter 76

[gilded ether]

I only recently started consistently reading p8

I was on chapter 30 something for over a year

[rugged pilot]

Bruh

Let him find out on his own

[gilded ether]

Well to be fair I asked when they are introduced

[rugged pilot]

It’s a bit of a plot twist that’s why

[gilded ether]

Ah

[kind owl]

@gilded ether, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[gilded ether]

Joshu main villain whennn

[minor ore]

actually true intellectuals say that the mv was introduced in ch71

[minor ore]

never

he is a hero

[gilded ether]

☹️

300 hour long joshu ova

How about that

[minor ore]

great

it would be great

[gilded ether]

I agree

[uneven tendon]

Joshu main villain? More like: Joshu best Jobro

[gilded ether]

Idk about that one

[uneven tendon]

Well, he and Josuke are brothers

[minor ore]

no thats yasuho

[gilded ether]

I am a mega simp for part 1 though so strong bias

[uneven tendon]

[uneven tendon]

Yasuho is more than a Jobro

[minor ore]

and

?

[uneven tendon]

She's also his love interest

[minor ore]

still the jobro tho

she can be both

Honestly can't wait for the epic teamup between Josh and Gap to beat the shit out of Tooru

It has to be inevitable by this point

i dont think so man

Plz

NKC Act 10 and S&W: Go Beyond Heaven teamup

[light swift]

They fight to the death for yasuho

Joshu wins after his stand evolves

Joshu always wins

[uneven tendon]

Joshu lost everything because of Josuke, but the man keeps on going

That's why he is the best JoJo

[dire furnace]

Josuke trips and falls and dies

[uneven tendon]

🙏

[dire furnace]

the final calamity

[uneven tendon]

No

[dire furnace]

yes

he didnt tie his shoelaces

[uneven tendon]

I don't think he has ones

[minor ore]

A Hirohiko Araki One-Shot : JO-SHU Higashikata keeps moving

[hard meteor]

[minor ore]

also

the day "Joshu's Theme" becomes a reality is the day i ascend

Honestly a Joshu one-shot wouldn't be bad at all tbh

Joshu's Theme : "A few screws loose"

[uneven tendon]

[hard meteor]

Kino theme name

[minor ore]

I think toorus theme being just "Calamity" is a cool name

"New locacaca" also sounds like a theme

[teal brook]

lmao

[minor ore]

who the fuck are you

[teal brook]

me?

[olive bobcat]

???

[minor ore]

Huh

lmao

[uneven tendon]

I hope Tooru's theme is called "you are a wonder"

[teal brook]

oooh

that'd be dope

Have you guys heard fan made themes?

[minor ore]

yeah

[uneven tendon]

Yes

[minor ore]

Pretty dope

[teal brook]

Should I send one here or in music sharing?

[minor ore]

You can send here

Rai's could be "Plant appraiser"

[uneven tendon]

The best fan made theme is Gyro's theme

[teal brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdMHXaPd_Ag

I love this theme so much

[uneven tendon]

Shame Wonder of U probably won't ever use it's wrist blades

[teal brook]

😔

[near cedar]

That's pretty good

[teal brook]

yeah! :DDD

[near cedar]

Araki was like: see this this is really cool right? have fun never seeing it again

[minor ore]

or there could be a general rock human theme for the like the less important ones

"rock human"

or

"Silicone"

[minor ore]

Gappy's fanmade theme is pure swagger

[heavy ledge]

whats up

[minor ore]

hi jose

Yasuho's theme can be named "Little Strawberry"

[teal brook]

lmao

nah it'll be "Lost in a park"

[viral plume]

@uneven tendon

[teal brook]

I know genius

lmao

[minor ore]

what the fuck

toorumaxsus

[viral plume]

Moorux

[hard meteor]

Yooo maxru

[viral plume]

...I kinda dont wanna spend any more time on it, I am just gonna keep it as this

[uneven tendon]

Dope

[heavy ledge]

i need a reason to live today besides jojolion

force me do something ive been unproductive for 2 days

[teal brook]

uhhhh uh. learn about the ocean

yeah that's cool 😎

[hard meteor]

Watch fma it’s pretty good

[heavy ledge]

im a man of the land i dont deal with the ocean

[teal brook]

😔

then learn about Geography

[heavy ledge]

wasnt my cup of tea

[hard meteor]

Fair

[runic adder]

Watch houseki no kuni

It’s not a show for everyone but

It’s a pretty good show

I mean, tv isn’t really “productive” but it’s better than nothing

[teal brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12D1UJjf_JQ

Here's another theme I fell in love with

Thoughts? Comments?

[runic adder]

Red mamezuku supremacy

[minor ore]

Eh.

It's kinda meh compared to the other fanmade themes.

It's out of character for the funk in most character JoJo themes

[teal brook]

I feel you

[minor ore]

Rai supremacy stands strong though

How do you guys think jojolion will end

[teal brook]

I love the red coloring for it tho

[teal brook]

Everyone dies, Joshu comes out as sole survivor

[runic adder]

Curses end

[minor ore]

I hope that happens lol

[runic adder]

Holly is cured

Rock disease ends

[minor ore]

Good end?

[runic adder]

Yea

Ofc still bittersweet

[uneven tendon]

Jojolion ends with a double wedding: Josuke marries Yasuho, and Joshu marries Karera

[minor ore]

Yasuho dies, Joshu and Gappy go fucking haywire, cue 20 chapters dedicated to a very long beatdown of Tooru.

[runic adder]

I doubt there will be a happy ending without some equivalent exchanges

Some sacrifices will have to be made

Hopefully all the mysteries are wrapped up

[hard meteor]

Bittersweet ending

[runic adder]

Even if they aren’t, maybe in a decade the unfinished stuff can be cut out of the anime

[uneven tendon]

Like Jobin being sacrificed for Holly

[minor ore]

Waiting for the reveal of what those bitemarks are the most tbh

[hard meteor]

As long as josuke yasuho and Joshu survive that’s good enough

[runic adder]

It’s already gonna be a bittersweet ending, with the deaths we have

[minor ore]

Why would joshu marry karera

[runic adder]

Josuke wouldn’t sacrifice someone else for holly

That makes him no better than Caato

[uneven tendon]

Because they would instantly fall in love

[runic adder]

Which is a bad message to send for readers

[minor ore]

noooo

[hard meteor]

Similar personality and she’s kinda cute

[minor ore]

I aint following that bullshit

[runic adder]

fan ships idk

[minor ore]

Karera is an oddly okay match for Joshu ngl

[uneven tendon]

But Jobin attacked Norisuke and tried to kill Yasuho twice

He deserves to die

[uneven tendon]

Fellow Joshu x Karera appreciator?

[hard meteor]

Yessir

[uneven tendon]

[uneven tendon]

[uneven tendon]

What if he sacrifices himself for Holly?

Like his original identity

[runic adder]

That’s a likely scenario

If the new locacaca isn’t available

Or he uses explosive spin to heal her injuries

[uneven tendon]

But then nobody left to continue the bloodline

Unless we get a Gappy and Yasuho sex scene before the sacrifice

[hard meteor]

Part 8 ends with the joestar and higashikata family dying off

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[uneven tendon]

And Joshu grows mushrooms instead of fruit

[minor ore]

part 8 ends with https://twitter.com/LuckyShazo/status/1387026041940631566

Shaz ★ (@LuckyShazo)

We do a little trolling

Likes

312

Twitter · Apr 27, 2021, 12:49 PM

[sudden nymph]

I am also apart of this now

[uneven tendon]

[true ore]

@uneven tendon do you have a joshu server?

[uneven tendon]

It's not mine, but there are a bunch of Joshu emotes there

[true ore]

that is the holiest server ever

[manic lark]

tooru after summoning the final rock insect "skibidi bop mm dada" that just nukes everyone

[true walrus]

i know when that hotline bling

[storm fjord]

josukes bubbles can explode right?

[zenith blaze]

Yes

[storm fjord]

has he used it yet?

[zenith blaze]

Yea

[storm fjord]

when?

[runic adder]

Latest chapter

[olive bobcat]

have you caught up?

[storm fjord]

ye im caught up

[kind owl]

@storm fjord, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

[storm fjord]

o

[minor ore]

or in aphex twins fight

they directly say that josukes bubbles explode like kiras

[runic adder]

Aphex bros are some of the few people to experience both soft and wets

[zenith blaze]

Is love love deluxe a bad stand?

[minor ore]

no?

karera knows how to use it

so

[runic adder]

Nah it’s pretty good really

You just need to touch the opponent

Idk if the hair growth is capped

But I assume it’s a pretty high cap

So you could just bog someone down with hair

If I’m remembering correctly

[minor ore]

i mean, there is no bad stand if you know how to use it, just look at the aphex twins, their stand abilities and appearances might be shitty but they use them very cleverly

[runic adder]

Nah a soccer ball full of toxins is deadly

Schott key no 1 is the real big brain stand

Was utilized so well in the fight

[minor ore]

even survivor, which dio claims to be the worst stand, is very powerful if used in the appropriate situation

[runic adder]

Definitely

[sudden nymph]

What about a stand that literally does nothing

[minor ore]

which is?

[sudden nymph]

Me

[minor ore]

i dont think there can ever be a stand with no a

ok then i see

[runic adder]

well, hey ya is debateable

since it possesses some future sight but, isnt controlled by the user

[minor ore]

its ability is yeah some future sight and encouragement

its still an ability

[runic adder]

besides that it exists to just cheer pocoloco on

its an ability but a near useless one

since like i said, its cryptic and isnt controlled by the user

[minor ore]

although hey ya! is a very weird stand, because its specifically pointed out that pocoloco just got it one day, no inherited stuff or devils palms

[runic adder]

yea he just...awakened a stand

which is possible

but rare

[brittle lodge]

dont you just love typos

[runic adder]

TSURGI?!

[brittle lodge]

finally achieved sadjobin.jpg

[runic adder]

nice!

well

not nice

jobin is one of the saddest parts when he sees tsurugi

[teal brook]

hello part 8 theory gamers 🧐

[cosmic finch]

evening

[patent merlin]

but hey, that's just a theory

[uneven tendon]

So, here's my theory about Mamezuku: we know that after Gyro's death, the Zeppelis moved to another country, and it's likely they also took his coffin with them, but considering Gyro's righteous acts in life it's possible he became a saint, so they ended up in Japan and kept Gyro's corpse there, which became a saint's corpse

[runic adder]

@cosmic finch so basically the theory is, at the end of part 7 its mentioned the zeppelis moved from naples, people think the zeppelis moved to japan, and had an off shoot of the family(or changed their name to mamezuku)

[patent merlin]

a game theory

thanks for watching

[cosmic finch]

oh

they did say that

[uneven tendon]

And they made a shrine dedicated to Gyro, similar to what they did with Johnny

And that family eventually renamed to Mamezuku

[cosmic finch]

i guess so

i mean that does make sense

[uneven tendon]

So I think the reason why Tooru targeted the Mamezuku family orchard 17 years ago

Was to get Gyro's corpse

[runic adder]

its a very possible theory imo, especially with him knowing spin

[teal brook]

yeah I really like it

[runic adder]

thats possible but if he knew about corpses why wouldnt he go for johnnys corpse

[cosmic finch]

i hope thats the truth

[runic adder]

why would he target the new locacaca, if his real goal was mamezuku

[uneven tendon]

And Tooru absorbed Gyro's corpse, and because of his different biology he was able to adapt to it much better than someone like Lucy

[runic adder]

he could have gone after mamezuku instead during urban

[uneven tendon]

And that's also why nothing but Spin could hit him

[runic adder]

[uneven tendon]

Because only Spin could match the power of a saint's corpse

[runic adder]

his stand is the reason nothing can hit him

[winter spade]

Well the calamity energy is somewhat similar to love train in a sense

[runic adder]

it really is

[uneven tendon]

And his Stand was created from Gyro's corpse

[runic adder]

it reminds me of ticket to ride

wait

[winter spade]

Redirecting negative energy away from Tooru and towards whoever is pursuing him

[runic adder]

liam you may be on to something

but

i dont think gyro would be a saint

[uneven tendon]

Or was at least evolved thanks to Gyro's corpse

[cosmic finch]

but arnt 99% of rock humans stand users?

[runic adder]

johnny literally created a miracle with his death

[uneven tendon]

95%

[runic adder]

95 i think, but yea

[uneven tendon]

But they also have special places to go to

Like shrines

[cosmic finch]

i wonder who were the 5%

[runic adder]

idk, just random rock humans

that arent born near holy places

[lapis fractal]

It could be any of us

[uneven tendon]

Maybe Tooru was one of those 5%, and he got his Stand from Gyro's corpse?

[winter spade]

As with all species, there are exceptions

[runic adder]

i think its possible

but tooru only mentions a saint once

[uneven tendon]

So what do you think of my theory?

[teal brook]

I kinda like it

[runic adder]

and why would spin be the only thing that can affect a corpse, the corpse is invulnerable even to spin

[cosmic finch]

it makes sense story-wise but...

[uneven tendon]

I'm surprised by how much it actually makes sense

[cosmic finch]

i dont think that will be the case

[runic adder]

and i dont think gyros corpse would create wou, thats one of the strongest stands in the series

[minor ore]

I'm fw Rai Zeppeli

Good theory

Me need

[runic adder]

jesus has THE strongest powers

[uneven tendon]

But Josuke's Spin is a different kind of Spin

[olive bobcat]

jeus ballin

[runic adder]

thats true but its still spin

[runic adder]

[teal brook]

lmao

[uneven tendon]

We don't know how Josuke's Go Beyond matches to his great-great grandpa's Infinite Rotation

Because those are very different types of infinite energy

[runic adder]

its not infinite rotation, that would be a shit asspull

its an infinitely thin string

[winter spade]

Well let’s think of it like this, if the rokakaka is in some way sourced from the Holy Saint’s power, then a human fusion born from it could overcome a lesser saints holy power if that’s indeed what WoU is

[runic adder]

we know that

[shadow tusk]

Tooru looks like he'd be a fuccboi irl

[winter spade]

We know that other saints exists and can perform miracles on a smaller level than the holy corpse can

[runic adder]

new locacaca is directly influenced by the corpse, if the wall eyes corpse implications are to be true

[uneven tendon]

Well, Jesus' corpse also technically created Tusk as a guardian

And Tusk eventually evolved into one of the strongest Stands in the series

[cosmic finch]

"imagine dying" (This post was made by the joshu gang)

[winter spade]

Or it’s even possible that WoU is similar to Milagro Man, a curse manifesting as stand energy bound to tooru

[shadow tusk]

WoU basically Ho mukatte kuru no ka?

[winter spade]

Considering that one of the biggest inspirations for the calamity ability was final destination and its principle character of “death” manifesting through seemingly random strokes of bad luck

[minor ore]

Ho, mukatte kuru no ka but the one approaching you falls over 250 times and breaks bones that they didn't even know exist

[uneven tendon]

So is it possible Tooru really did absorbed Gyro's corpse, which manifested as a different form of misfortune deflection?

[teal brook]

He did get bonked pretty badly last chapter tbf 🗿

[winter spade]

Well that makes a bunch of assumptions about how a potential gyro corpse would work

[cosmic finch]

not dead yet tho

[uneven tendon]

Joshu won't die

Only his older brother did