jojolion

[terse scarab]

better than pizza mozzarella in my opinion

[uneven tendon]

So true

[olive bobcat]

fr

[uneven tendon]

[hard meteor]

Nothin but fax

[uneven tendon]

They will probably also cut the line of ''I never kissed anyone yet'' for Yasuho in the first chapter

Considering that in the exact same chapter she admitted to kiss Joshu

And Tooru is a thing

[runic adder]

They just had sex, no k*ssing

[winter spade]

Tooru and yatsuho did the secks?!?

[runic adder]

Yes 😔

[uneven tendon]

Honestly, even though Jojolion is the best part, it has to be one of the most inconsistent ones

[runic adder]

Definitely lol

Once it finishes there will be pages of contradictions

[hard meteor]

For sure

[heavy ledge]

what u sayin about my men

[runic adder]

Enough to fill a book

[true ore]

remember the whole speech bubble where he said “my hands made you really wet” or some shit to yasuho

[uneven tendon]

The anime will probably fix a lot of that stuff

And no more ugly Soft and Wet in covers

[winter spade]

Remember beta soft and wet?

[true ore]

i cant wait for the shovel scene

[uneven tendon]

Unfortunately

[winter spade]

How it had a nose and smaller ear nodes?

Disgustang

[uneven tendon]

And a huge forehead

[runic adder]

Even if the majority of the mysteries get answered there are still contradictions currently

Yea beta soft and wet was ugly af

So was beta damo from the flashback

[uneven tendon]

I wouldn't be surprised if stuff like mystery man and chapter 22 baby ultimately end up being abandoned ideas

[uneven tendon]

So cringe

[minor ore]

what the fuck

#notmysoftandwet

[uneven tendon]

Josuke's hat is also 🤢

[minor ore]

agreed

[true ore]

remember when yagiyama had josefumi and kiras fucking clothes

[heavy ledge]

😳 😤 🥰 🥵

[winter spade]

He lookin drippy tho

[uneven tendon]

Technically Josuke does have Kira's clothes

[hard meteor]

Can’t believe soft and wet had a nose lol

[heavy ledge]

karera recognized josuke bc josefumi used to wear kiras clothes too

[hard meteor]

Yes

[heavy ledge]

i wonder in which context

[hard meteor]

I still want answers to that

[winter spade]

You won’t get any

[true ore]

beta josukes hat was kiras hat

[minor ore]

the more i look at it the uglier it gets

[uneven tendon]

Actually, why does Josuke continue to wear Kira's clothes, if he wants to be his own person now?

[winter spade]

Or maybe Kira secretly lived in that bunker idk

[hard meteor]

Yeah but how

[minor ore]

he likes them i guess

[heavy ledge]

only soft and wet, josuke tho,, 🥵 🥵

[heavy ledge]

sailor outfit rocks wdym

[hard meteor]

Did he and yotsuyu just borrow the room every couple of days without ever noticing each other

[winter spade]

Well do we know how often yagiyama used that room?

I thought it was only used when he was designing their new house after the earthquake and kira’s death

So if Kira squatted in there beforehand...

But then why would he leave his sailor outfits in there?

My brain hurts

[hard meteor]

it doesn’t make sense

[winter spade]

It doesn’t even make sense if those are just random sailors outfits because no one in the Higashikata household is a fucking sailor

[minor ore]

soft and wet go beyond's ability isnt bubbles

its to make sailor outfits

[uneven tendon]

Jojolion? More like: Araki forgotlion

[winter spade]

Araki is a hack fraud

[heavy ledge]

i just think yoshikage used it as a hideout at some point

he knew the higashikatas were up to something bc they were receiving the rokaka shipment

[runic adder]

Norisuke somehow knew yoshikage

[minor ore]

couldnt josuke just ask norisuke to buy him some sailor outfits

[runic adder]

And for some reason norisuke thought yoshikage could solve the rock disease?

Even tho yoshikage has no concept of the disease

[heavy ledge]

he did, thats why he wanted josuke to spit out whatever he knew about the rokaka but josuke has amnesia and will never remember anything about his past lives

[runic adder]

But why would Kira know about the rock disease

He must have been in close contact with norisuke and the higashikatas

To know about it

[heavy ledge]

he is very far away related to the higashikatas

like how do u say it

distant relatives

[runic adder]

Yea

But he still wouldn’t have met the higashikatas

At least not often

[heavy ledge]

no but they are rich and they are known for sure

he was looking for something to cure holys curse

[runic adder]

Otherwise they would have recognized josuke as Kira

Yes but norisuke specifically says rock disease

[heavy ledge]

the fact that norisuke got to know he was looking for a way to cure her disease, well, we dont know about that

[winter spade]

Did Jobin start working with the Rokakaka organization before or after Kira and Josefumi stole the branches?

[runic adder]

Exactly

[runic adder]

Before I think

[heavy ledge]

that is why i FOR THE LOVE OF GOD need more flashbacks about holy

[runic adder]

Jjl happens 3 days after fusion

[minor ore]

The Rokakaka organization doesn't traffic Rokakakas

it traffics sailor suits

there problem solved

[runic adder]

And fusion happens 10 months after they cultivate the fruit

And steal the branch

Sooo

[heavy ledge]

i assume jobin has been selling the rokakaka for some years

[runic adder]

Jobin was way before that

It had to have been before the higashikata house was even designed

[uneven tendon]

Or maybe he will regain his memory after he fully masters Spin?

[heavy ledge]

no sh don

dont

[uneven tendon]

Like how Johnny regained the ability to walk after mastering Spin

[runic adder]

Since we see yotsuyu making the blueprints for the higashikata house when he meets jobin

So idk when the higashikata house was made

Even more confusing, is yotsuyu connected to the bookseller mark?

[hard meteor]

I don’t think so

[runic adder]

Since he designed the house

Idk

[hard meteor]

Yasuho mentioned she saw the symbol as a kid

[runic adder]

How the symbol got on the house is yet to be explained

[hard meteor]

So it was years before yotsuyu

[runic adder]

Wait really? Where?

Oh I mean like, he could still be connected to it

Not created the mark

But the mark could represent an organization

Of some kind

A possible theory is it represents the speedwagon foundation

But idk about that

[minor ore]

she said she saw it when she was at the house playing with joshu iirc

[hard meteor]

Ye

[heavy ledge]

it says somewhere about yotsuyu but i cnat find it

[runic adder]

What about yotsuyu

[heavy ledge]

here, the mansion was restructured 3 years ago

the basement is way older since tsurugi says they used that place for the eldest son of the family to recover

or die either way

[runic adder]

Weird

[minor ore]

yotsumi looks a lot like an older tsurugi would tbh

[willow crystal]

Eh kinda

He’s kinda Sussy

[foggy gulch]

jojo characters just look similar in general

[willow crystal]

Joshu doesn’t look similar to anyone

[minor ore]

i mean sometimes yeah

[hard meteor]

Oh and here zyro this is where she mentioned it

[minor ore]

the facial structure can be similar on a lot of characters

[heavy ledge]

tsurugi looks like ass

[minor ore]

they look about 3 or so in that panel

[runic adder]

thanks

[runic adder]

so jobin meeting yotsuyu must have been 3 years ago

or more

[heavy ledge]

uh they are part of the damokans afaik

[runic adder]

yes yotsuyu is part of the damokan group

but he was also the architect

[heavy ledge]

i mean jobin

[runic adder]

oh

but yea, jobin does business with the damokan group

when he met them, yotsuyu was designing the higashikata house

so norisuke must have contracted him after that

so jobin had to have started working for them at least 3 years ago

[heavy ledge]

oh yea here it says yotsu and jobin met when yotsu was hired to rebuild the mansion

[runic adder]

see hes redesigning/designing the house

[runic adder]

did norisuke need to rebuild it cuz of the wall eyes?

wait nvm

[heavy ledge]

no, norisuke says he wanted to redesign the mansion

[kind owl]

@heavy ledge, Your Hamon Rank is now level 18 !

[uneven tendon]

Classic Jobin, being both a Aida fan and a baseball fan

[heavy ledge]

and yotsu had this frank idk who style he loved

[runic adder]

frank lloyd i think

[heavy ledge]

and he also asked yotsu to design the little house outside

[runic adder]

yea but thats what i mean, did he specifically want to build a new mansion because of the wall eyes

[true ore]

is jobin a antagonist because he never really did that much in the grand scheme of it

i am going to be beratted with messages about him

[runic adder]

but it doesnt make sense what i said

[runic adder]

bruh

[runic adder]

yes he is a major antagonist

and yes he did a LOT in the grand scheme of things

[heavy ledge]

damo used the parlor for money laundring but im not sure if they were in the rokaka business together

[true ore]

already saw it coming

[heavy ledge]

im just going to assume they knew each others shady business

[runic adder]

jobin was smuggling locacaca for them

[heavy ledge]

oh smuggle

means traffic?

[true ore]

because all im saying is jobin was not associated with anyone but the fruit company

[runic adder]

ye

[true ore]

and they were the bottom rung of rock human villains

[heavy ledge]

they were helping each other anyway

[runic adder]

bottom ring of...the two factions we know

yep

[heavy ledge]

jobin being a damokan idk but help is help

[runic adder]

the doctors werent necessarily any stronger than the damokan group

[true ore]

well

[runic adder]

they were researching and selling, damokan group was smuggling and selling

[true ore]

okay

i believe you

[runic adder]

doctors used to be part of the overall locacaca organization(which we can presume is the damokan group) and infiltrated the hospital

[heavy ledge]

i still need holy's part in the story to be cleared

[runic adder]

oh definitely

as soon as shes cured she better drop some nukes of info

[hard meteor]

Hell yeah

Some much needed Holly exposition

[true ore]

i just think jobin isnt as bad as we frame him

[runic adder]

he is pretty bad

bad morals, good motive

[true ore]

josuke killed more people i believe

[uneven tendon]

What about more Tooru exposition?

[runic adder]

josuke has killed 1 person, jobin has killed two(three for norisuke)

unless we count rock humans as people

[true ore]

yotsuyu the twins

thats not fair

[runic adder]

again im counting humans

[heavy ledge]

im sure the damokans broke some bones on purpose to have more customers

[hard meteor]

Yeah but josukes kills aren’t malicious

Jobin bodied his own dad

[true ore]

norisuke isnt confirmed dead

[uneven tendon]

Except Blue Hawaii

[heavy ledge]

norisuke is dead

[runic adder]

still, jobin had the intent to kill didnt he?

[heavy ledge]

there, confirmed

[uneven tendon]

Norisuke isn't dead, just knocked out

[true ore]

and drowning yotsuyu

josuke drowned yotsuyu

[runic adder]

again i just said dont count rock humans as people

[uneven tendon]

Racist

[heavy ledge]

he smashed a fucking baby

wait, did he?

[runic adder]

josuke?

[true ore]

they’re living beings

[uneven tendon]

He didn't

[runic adder]

he lost to blue hawaii because he didnt want to kill the child

[hard meteor]

Nah but he did smash an old woman with a shovel

[runic adder]

i think

he killed the woman tho

or heavily injured her

[uneven tendon]

Josuke most evil Jojo

[runic adder]

true and sentient

but i think josukes kills on them are justified

[runic adder]

jobins kills are somewhat justified in ojiro but not entirely

and ofc not justified for norisuke

[true ore]

yeah

[runic adder]

he was completely justified for the bully tho

[heavy ledge]

a lot of people die in blue hawaii

[runic adder]

the bully covered him in fucking oil, he was about to learn to fly if he hadnt awakened speed king

[uneven tendon]

Tbh main reason it's unjustified is because he was also fine with killing Mako's daughter if she was also a Stand user like Ojiro

[runic adder]

yea

[hard meteor]

Yeah

[uneven tendon]

Also, Norisuke was fine with keeping Josuke as a slave without memories

So maybe he did deserve to die

[runic adder]

and jobin almost considered killing yasuho just to mess with josuke

[runic adder]

nah

norisuke still has secrets to tell

[hard meteor]

If he just took out ojiro it wouldn’t be an issue but killing the mother and threatening to kill the daughter was fucked

[runic adder]

well mako was the one who incited ojiro to head over there

[uneven tendon]

The mother was a hoe, but she technically didn't do anything

[heavy ledge]

eat shovel

[runic adder]

but yea threatening the child was horrific

[runic adder]

soft and wet becomes shovel knight

[uneven tendon]

Jobin is not the cute shy boy we knew, he is now an evil edgelord

[true ore]

the weirdest part is he has no goal

[runic adder]

with beetles

[runic adder]

....what

bruh we reading the same jobin?

[hard meteor]

Cmon gold

[true ore]

yeah its never truly explained what he wanted

[uneven tendon]

Jobin's goal is to beat Josuke at beetle fighting

[runic adder]

bruhhhhhh

[hard meteor]

You should know his gold by now

[runic adder]

bruuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[true ore]

if he has the new locacaca what is he gonna do with it

[hard meteor]

Protecting the future of the higashikata family line and saving his son

[true ore]

i would like to know

[runic adder]

hes gonna heal tsurugi

and end the rock disease

[uneven tendon]

What if after the WoU arc, Jobin gets an arc where he learns to get along with Josuke?

[heavy ledge]

he smashed the baby but he couldnt so he got defeated by the baby

[runic adder]

i mean, there are no guarantees that would end the rock disease

[true ore]

to help tsurugi partly

[runic adder]

but its still a clear goal

[uneven tendon]

Whole family finally embracing him

[heavy ledge]

josuke isnt a bad guy after all

[true ore]

but i must be skipping over something

[runic adder]

a new locacaca would heal tsurugi entirely

its literally equivalent exchange with no drawback to the person that eats it

[uneven tendon]

It probably will, otherwise there's no point

[runic adder]

yea but it would be an ironic failure

which i wouldnt like, but its possible

then again, how will we even know the rock disease will be cured unless theres a timeskip and we see mitsubas child

[true ore]

i just dont understand why jobin is killing all these people for nothing

[runic adder]

tsurugi can be cured like jobin and norisuke were with new locacaca, but i dont see why it would get rid of the curse

[uneven tendon]

This story is about breaking a curse, having the thing that is likely able to do so not actually being able to do so would be cringe

[true ore]

he cant heal tsurugi because he doesnt know how

[hard meteor]

He’s not doing it for nothing

[runic adder]

hes killing these people because he wants to end the curse

[hard meteor]

He had a pretty reasonable reason to want ojiro dead

[runic adder]

he will heal him with the new locacaca

[true ore]

i get it

[uneven tendon]

He does it for his family

[true ore]

but how is he gonna heal him

[hard meteor]

Exactly

[runic adder]

hes gonna...have tsurugi eat the new locacaca

[true ore]

and then what happens

[runic adder]

i dont see how this is hard to understand

[runic adder]

and then tsurugi is cured of the rock disease

[true ore]

i get that much

[runic adder]

its possible it ends the curse

[uneven tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-we-are-family-angry-gif-5247804

[runic adder]

which is jobins endgame

as long as jobin can cure tsurugi i think he will be happy

[uneven tendon]

Jobin be like Walter White

[true ore]

but the new locacaca doesnt just cure the sickness

[uneven tendon]

Except not as evil

[runic adder]

but his overall ambition is to get rid of the curse

[runic adder]

how do you know that

[true ore]

im saying no one knows

[runic adder]

why wouldnt the new locacaca cure the sickness, as ive said before its just equivalent exchange

[true ore]

it just was never explained that way

[uneven tendon]

We saw a normal Locacaca cure Iwasuke, why wouldn't a New Locacaca cure the rock disease?

[runic adder]

as we've seen two times before, with equivalent exchange the rock disease counts as an illness

so it will be transferred to someone else

in the exchange

[true ore]

but who

isnt that the whole point

[hard meteor]

It wouldn’t make much sense for the new locacaca to not be able to cure the disease with all the chapters of buildup it has

[runic adder]

yea exactly

it will probably be explained how it cures it

[true ore]

to find a way to cure the disease without someone else dying

[uneven tendon]

What if Paper Moon King is secretly the key to cure the disease?

[true ore]

i get your points

[runic adder]

jobin doesnt care about who dies as long as he cures the disease

[uneven tendon]

It's an origami Stand, rock disease folds skin into origami-like

[true ore]

but its just plotholes at the moment that hold me back from fully understanding

[runic adder]

his whole character is about not thinking ahead and making impulse decisions

[true ore]

im not doubting what anyone says

[runic adder]

hehehe

but idk what your point is

i dont see where the plothole is

[true ore]

how is it all going to be resolved

we just have seen how anything will be fixed

[runic adder]

the new locacaca is influenced by the wall eyes, which derives its power from the corpse
i dont see why its a stretch to say that the new locacaca will cure the disease

[heavy ledge]

the normal rokakaka exchanges unhealthy parts for healthy ones, the healthy ones turn to rock. yoshikage thought that it could cure holy's disease. for the higashikata side, a sacrifice had to be made in order to cure their illiness, and so to avoid sacrificing anyone jobin gets to know there is a new rokakaka branch in the higashikata's state, he knows this in the blue hawaii arc-

[uneven tendon]

Guys, what if a true love's kiss cured the rock disease?

[runic adder]

thats not a plothole if it...hasnt happened yet lmao

[uneven tendon]

Jobin kisses Tsurugi

Then dies

[heavy ledge]

the only thing they know is that the new lokakaka can make josuke

[runic adder]

lol

[heavy ledge]

and they are all around that

[true ore]

but it is because the flashforward

im not saying anyone is wrong

[runic adder]

and the flashforward will be explained

dw

its stand powers bro it just works

[heavy ledge]

now, tooru has just witnessed what happens between two people and the rokaka

[true ore]

i just want more information

[uneven tendon]

What if the New Locacaca is actually a combination of fig and a saint's corpse?

[heavy ledge]

but jobin fucking died

[runic adder]

wait for new chapters

[true ore]

i will

[uneven tendon]

Jobin is dead, Norisuke isn't

[true ore]

again no one was wrong

[hard meteor]

youll get that soon enough

[uneven tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-cope-gif-20110606

[heavy ledge]

rokakaka mermelade

[uneven tendon]

*Locacaca

[runic adder]

new locacaca is directly influenced by the corpse

[uneven tendon]

Yeah, Johnny's corpse

Johnny is a saint, nothing can change my mind

[true ore]

does 6251 mean the 6251th cersion

[runic adder]

the ground of morioh was influenced by the corpse, and the new locacaca is special because of the graft and the ground

[true ore]

cause if so how many people died

[runic adder]

its just a reference to jojo6251

its an artbook

[runic adder]

i hope so too

[true ore]

okay

[hard meteor]

has to be

[uneven tendon]

But not as good as Jojoveller

[runic adder]

so i dont think 6251 has any deeper meaning

[runic adder]

ive read neither

i wonder if i can find a JOJOnicle pdf anywhere

[true ore]

i wish i had jojoveller but its like 300 Usd

[uneven tendon]

I don't think Jesus' corpse was the one impacting Morioh, considering it was only there for a few days

[runic adder]

just find a pdf online

[uneven tendon]

Whereas Johnny's corpse is there for over a century

[runic adder]

thats true

but jesus's corpse was what created les fueilles

[true ore]

its a collecting thing not the contents

[runic adder]

oh ok

[uneven tendon]

Actually, that was the Infinite Rotation

[runic adder]

infinite rotation created les fueilles? what?

[uneven tendon]

A combination of both

[hard meteor]

it was a combination of both iirc

[runic adder]

oh

weird

[hard meteor]

the corpse and johnny touching it activated it

[runic adder]

i guess you could say it was...a miracle

[true ore]

how did the infinite rotation give johnny the rock disease

[uneven tendon]

Johnny and Jesus are good partners confirmed?

[runic adder]

its not clear

[uneven tendon]

Poor Gyro, got replaced after his death

[runic adder]

he uses infinite rotation and that somehow transfers the disease to different people

[hard meteor]

it used the power of infinity transfer it from his son to him

[uneven tendon]

Also, why they only talk about Johnny's legend, and not Gyro's legend?

[true ore]

but how

[uneven tendon]

Because Spin

[runic adder]

cuz gyro aint a holy corpse

[hard meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-i-dont-know-shrugs-idk-gif-10947874

it just did cause of spin

[runic adder]

and why would they know about gyro, its morioh

[uneven tendon]

But he was an holy man

[true ore]

he is

[uneven tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-pizza-mozzarella-jojo-steel-ball-run-anime-gif-17729028

[true ore]

will colored adventure ever pick up jojo again?

[uneven tendon]

I wonder if Gyro could also qualify as a saint

[minor ore]

Honestly it's a bit sad none of the Zeppelis ever get an expansion on their stories after they inevitably die in the same part they appear in.

[heavy ledge]

the colored chapters are up to 24

[runic adder]

yea, even rai

[heavy ledge]

but idk why they are not cleaning them

[runic adder]

none of the zeppelis live long

[true ore]

rai zeppeli when?

[uneven tendon]

Maybe if part 9 is in Italy, his corpse could play into the plot of that part?

[runic adder]

bruh what

[heavy ledge]

oh wait they were

they were cleaning them

[uneven tendon]

Since Johnny brought it back to Naples

[runic adder]

most colored translations are past 60

[heavy ledge]

but idk when they are going to release them

[runic adder]

most end at 60-ish

[true ore]

its actually at volume 20 i believe

[uneven tendon]

Reject coloring, return to black and white

[true ore]

Jojo im rejecting my coloring

[runic adder]

ohhh 24 volume

[minor ore]

I really want a Part 9 protag where Gyro's bloodline is involved. Make him Dio 2.0

[runic adder]

i thought he meant chapter

[runic adder]

volume 24

[uneven tendon]

?

[heavy ledge]

https://twitter.com/Musicedge2/status/1383808957555216399?s=20

King casual (BLUE STINGER STING ME) (@Musicedge2)

Some new color edition pages came out today as well! Here's a thread of volume 24

Likes

413

Twitter · Apr 18, 2021, 3:45 PM

[runic adder]

is where coloring is at

[runic adder]

i thought you meant chapters

im aware of the coloring for 24

[heavy ledge]

they are working on them

[uneven tendon]

Technically Gyro's family still lived, they just moved to a different country

[runic adder]

yea but they're taking their sweet time

[uneven tendon]

Same as Caesar's siblings

[heavy ledge]

well that post says that they came out "today" which was last week

i only have vol 22 downloaded

[runic adder]

where can i find them translated

[minor ore]

I mean more like descendants

[heavy ledge]

oh wait theya re up

[runic adder]

jojos colored adventure team is only done up to volume 17

[minor ore]

It's not impossible that his gf might've got pregnant

[heavy ledge]

only japanese version tho

[runic adder]

no, english

[heavy ledge]

maybe they are going to release all the chapters left at once

[runic adder]

lol that would be nice

[heavy ledge]

last time i checked on mangadex someone took the time to clean and translate 72-73

[runic adder]

yea same

[heavy ledge]

but well, we know what happened to mangadex

[runic adder]

but mangadex is lost to us

[uneven tendon]

Maybe one of those Zeppeli descendents is actually Yoshiteru Kira?

[runic adder]

would be nice if they dropped the wou arc all at once

[heavy ledge]

my mom is a descendant of the zeppelis

[uneven tendon]

Cool mom

[minor ore]

That means Yoshikage is a "Zeppeli"
Yoshikage died
AAAAAAA

[hard meteor]

yoooo cool mom

[minor ore]

Well ig he technically didn't die, but it's only technically.

[heavy ledge]

it hurts reading yoshikage died

[runic adder]

nah kira died

josefumi is the one that "technically" didnt die

but his soul is gone, amnesia and all

[heavy ledge]

the unconscious part is there

the logic skills, brutality and emotions

a cry baby

[regal topaz]

can soft and wet steal someone's stand?

[hard meteor]

no

[heavy ledge]

takes after his dads

[runic adder]

yea he has traits of both josefumi and kira

hes still his own person

[heavy ledge]

liam no

[uneven tendon]

Can Soft and Wet steal virginity?

[gray sable]

it can surely steal mine😩

[hard meteor]

maybe

[uneven tendon]

Also, could Plunder work on a Locacaca?

[heavy ledge]

he can steal my eyeball virginity by licking it

i still wanna know how it feels like to have your own eyeballs licked

[gray sable]

no

[barren bough]

plunder can also neuter animals

[uneven tendon]

Could Plunder steal GER's reset to 0?

[foggy gulch]

soft and wet would go beyond requiem

[uneven tendon]

[minor ore]

S&W Go Beyond > Over Heaven araki told me

[uneven tendon]

Btw, I have a take

By the time Tooru is defeated

He will be best villain

[foggy gulch]

i think you're probably right

[uneven tendon]

Also, is the reason Josuke has a gap is because of Kira and Josefumi having incompatible teeth structures?

[runic adder]

yea, same with the eyes

they are different sets of teeth

[uneven tendon]

Kira had better eyes tbh

[undone mason]

how is this chat so active i thought this part had like 7 fans

[runic adder]

haha le funny jojolion has no fans joke

[hard meteor]

you did this joke before

[uneven tendon]

Because it's a great part

[runic adder]

this chat is quite active tbh

it has more than 7 fans, im pretty sure jjl is like the highest selling manga on UJ

[undone mason]

no, now im just surprised this chat is so active

[uneven tendon]

Shame a lot of chats are Joshu or Tooru defenses

[hard meteor]

i dont see why

[runic adder]

yep

[runic adder]

chapter came out a week ago, it will simmer down in a week or two

and then get very active like the week before a chapter is released

[hard meteor]

ye,but even then its still decently active

[runic adder]

yea for sure

[undone mason]

i like how the latest part is the most active and the oldest part is the less active

ok maybe stone ocean is more active but ok

[uneven tendon]

Stone Ocean chat is probably the worst one tbh

[foggy gulch]

worst chat?

[runic adder]

not much to talk about with part 1 lol

tbf this part isnt finished, and its a mystery part, it incites a lot more discussion than finished parts

[undone mason]

yeah just 10 episodes

but it makes me mad

[hard meteor]

Nah va chat is the worse

[minor ore]

I really think that this being animated will be some revolutionary ass shit. SO is kinda mid.

Part 1> part 8. Unfortunately these peasenets dont know good taste when they see it. @undone mason

[runic adder]

how so

[runic adder]

it should still get animated

[undone mason]

phantom blood and battle tendency have only has around 50 000 messages

[runic adder]

yea...

too bad

[undone mason]

when the other channels have at least more than 100 000

[foggy gulch]

vento aureo is just arguing over the requiem arrow and whether its real or not

[runic adder]

but like i said, the parts have been out for like 30 years, theres nothing new to talk about

[minor ore]

ok lets talk about phanto mblood in phantom blood the best part

[minor ore]

Defo, but it's sad that Part 7 won't be animated until (very maybe) like 2024

[undone mason]

that shows that people here skip parts

even that mod guy skipped

[foggy gulch]

what

[runic adder]

yea

[hard meteor]

Which mod

[runic adder]

no?

it shows that the two parts just dont have as much discussion

[undone mason]

uh i dont think so honestly

[kind owl]

@undone mason, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

[undone mason]

people skip a lot those parts

and its a lot more messages

vento aureo has 400 000

anyways i gtg now bye i guess

[heavy ledge]

lol

[primal dagger]

There's literally not much to discuss in the Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency channels.

[runic adder]

yea my point exactly

[heavy ledge]

i dont think theres discussion about straightforward parts

[uneven tendon]

How bad it is in comparison to Stone Ocean chat

[runic adder]

yea, especially with parts that dont leave much to the imagination

va chat always argues about requiem and all because its left vague

so chat argues about some...unsavory topics because they are vague as well

[hard meteor]

It’s usually just arguing over the same 3 topics or shipping

[heavy ledge]

we should raid chats to make it interesting

[runic adder]

no

[heavy ledge]

but im going to get my ass banned bc theres no fun in here

[runic adder]

jjl fans are already not respected in this server

[heavy ledge]

how so

actually i have every single channel silenced but this one so i dont know what they think about jojolionists

i just come here, discuss shit, leave

[hard meteor]

They mock our lord joshu

They refuse to read it

And worst of all

They come in here with dogshit memes about it

[heavy ledge]

that is worldwide

[hard meteor]

Sadly

[heavy ledge]

idk why are ppl arguing in the vento aureo chat about stone ocean

xd

[hard meteor]

Oh wow they are

lol

[heavy ledge]

im having popcorns

[hearty flower]

Why would people refuse to read jojos if they are in a jojos discord server

[heavy ledge]

there are people that read it and they still dont know what they are reading so its pretty much the same

[hard meteor]

That is a good question

[uneven tendon]

[uneven tendon]

Because everything has to be black and white, Joshu can only qualify as evil

[hard meteor]

Why DO people come on this server without even reading less than quarter of it

[hearty flower]

Jojos fans when they have to take English class (they don’t know how to read)

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[uneven tendon]

What Joshuphobes like to use:

What chads actually like to use:

[heavy ledge]

xd

[runic adder]

oh just saying that we are elitist and stuff

[heavy ledge]

we are

are we?

[runic adder]

good

[runic adder]

no we're not

thinking we are better because we are caught up with a manga? happens with literally every manga

[heavy ledge]

idk this is the only fandom im in

[runic adder]

saying part 8 is the best part? awful, horrible behavior to praise a part

[heavy ledge]

this is the first manga i read too

[runic adder]

nice

[heavy ledge]

[runic adder]

[uneven tendon]

[heavy ledge]

[uneven tendon]

Honestly, you need a high IQ to like Joshu

You need to analyze his every action to get his character

[regal topaz]

Can non-stand users see s&w's bubbles?

[runic adder]

i dont remember

uh

[heavy ledge]

idk we are all stand users because we see them

[runic adder]

i think so

they are just bubbles

since they are just spinning lines, and rai touched the bubble

[uneven tendon]

Considering they are Spin, which was seen by normal people, that's probably the case

[runic adder]

i think they dont count as part of the stand

[heavy ledge]

broh

they are invisible bubbles that spin

u cant see

because they are invisible trascending timespace and dimensions

and the logic of this universe and the next universe

josuke

they spin

[runic adder]

josuke
the bubbles
they are invisible
josuke the bubbles are acting sussy

[uneven tendon]

Technically Araki pierced us with a Stand arrow in part 3, because he told us Joseph would have Hermit Purple in part 2 if the crusaders went back in time

[uneven tendon]

I'm talking about the normal bubbles

Not Go Beyond bubbles

[heavy ledge]

mmm no i dont think ppl see them

[runic adder]

like i said, rai touches the bubbles

since they are spinning lines

i think if someone can touch the bubbles, normal people can see the bubbles

[heavy ledge]

theres part 8 slander in the jojo overall

i shouldnt have gone in there

[runic adder]

yea thats also why people dont respect jjl fans

is cuz when someone slanders a part, when obviously speedreading

and we defend said part

its seen as an attack

its always sbr fans man, every time

[summer nova]

they cant bc the lines are infinitely thin

the bubble interacts with the world but it exists outside of it

[runic adder]

those are the explosive spin

normal bubbles are not explosive spin

[summer nova]

it's a metaphysical kind of thing

oh right

[runic adder]

the explosive spin cant be touched or seen, by anyone

[summer nova]

yeah i thought u meant those

[runic adder]

but rai touched a normal bubble, which is a not infinitely thin line

[runic adder]

ye ye np

[summer nova]

i see, yeah you're right

[minor ore]

This scene if it were diu

[olive bobcat]

octagon chin

[hard meteor]

Green and red eyes

[minor ore]

he's split afterall

[heavy ledge]

i like blue and purple better

tho theys hould be blue and green tho

[rocky charm]

I'd prefer them to be closer colors

Green and red is super noticeable and distracting

[heavy ledge]

yea but you know, the land and the sea

[rocky charm]

It would make you wonder why Yasuho noticed the 4 balls but NOT the split eyes

[olive bobcat]

horny ass

[rocky charm]

Although I suppose she is a teenager, so that's one explanation

[heavy ledge]

you have a naked dude in front of you and you see them in the eyes?

respect

[minor ore]

Look, when you see a naked man the first thing you go and look at it is his junk , not his nose, not his eyes

[heavy ledge]

thighs and belly then

hands

and for the last part the face

[minor ore]

you look at the thing that draws the most attention

and of course, 4balls does that

[true ore]

green and red are contrary colors thats what makes them pop and not appeal

[summer nova]

two shades of the same color works better imo

[true ore]

definitely

[rocky charm]

First off, complementary colors
Second off, they're called complementary colors because they can work very well together. They don't always, work, but they often do.

[summer nova]

it allows for a single color in long distance shots too

[rocky charm]

^

[true ore]

i am sorry my art knowledge is limited

[rocky charm]

If you have his eyes be light blue and slightly-less-light blue, then they can draw it in close-ups and just forget about it most of the time

[summer nova]

yep

[runic adder]

I wish Araki still drew josuke with the gap

Alas, like his short lived rock eye it will never return

[willow crystal]

What is y’all least favorite Rock Insect? You can choose any of them except the Hair Clip one since that one barley had any screen time

[kind owl]

@willow crystal, Your Hamon Rank is now level 9 !

[junior coral]

barley

and mine is Obladi Oblada

Because I was like FUCK YOU when it first appeared

Just another mf roadblock in this long ass fight

[hard meteor]

obladi

[true ore]

you are a d7 appreciator i see

[junior coral]

Do do do de da da da was also kind of stupid

Mmmmmm I think that's my least favorite

I change my answer

[hard meteor]

unbased

[junior coral]

D7 is harder to understand and at least Obladi looks funky

[hard meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-clown-ronald-mcdonald-gif-19034662

[true ore]

you can guess who i like less

but j dont hate d7

[rocky charm]

Obladi Oblada at least makes sense at what it does

Dododo de Dadada dododoesn't

[hard meteor]

it makes perfect sense

smh d7 slander

[rocky charm]

It's a bunch of sticks that form random shapes and attack you

[junior coral]

Explain it then

[rocky charm]

What are the rules? It just does whatever

[junior coral]

they are sticks that when they are near you if you move lower than where you currently are it makes asbestos fly out your eyes for some reason

[foggy gulch]

no its just any movement makes more asbestos

its not green day

[junior coral]

you're not green day

[foggy gulch]

[hard meteor]

easy enough, it travels and uses it stick form to target prey,first by poisoning them on contact and then slowly eat away at them

the more you move the more the poison spreads making it easier for d7 to go for the kill

[junior coral]

okay thank you for the explanation

[hard meteor]

👍

[uneven tendon]

Mine is the hair clip

[junior coral]

Dude!

He said not to say that one!

Wtf!

[uneven tendon]

Oh

😔

Then I guess D7

Obladi Oblada gang

[hard meteor]

not you too

[uneven tendon]

Hey man, other rock insects deserve respect

We need to support the less popular ones

[willow crystal]

That wasn’t a option

[junior coral]

Obladi gang

[uneven tendon]

[junior coral]

OB(ased)LADI

[hard meteor]

me when no d7 love

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-cry-gif-20104177

[foggy gulch]

[rocky charm]

ドゥードゥードゥー・デ・ダーダーダー

Dododo de Dadada

D7

Shit time-waster

Crazy how many ways there are to say the same thing.

[hard meteor]

[junior coral]

ドゥー3デダー3

[uneven tendon]

I love all the rock insects

🥺

[runic adder]

Can’t wait for d7 to take up 4 episodes just because the name will take forever to say

Like wonder of u just keeps randomly saying d7 during the fight

It’s great

[winter spade]

I can’t take the end of urban guerrilla seriously when he screams “dive back into the ground doremi!!”

Doremi is just not a threatening shorthand

[true ore]

obladi oblada will get like 5 minutes in the anime

if there ever is one

[runic adder]

Obladi slander

Blasphemy

[runic adder]

Just in general most songs in jojo don’t work well for menacing stuff

Bruno saying “sticky fingers” always cracks me up

[winter spade]

Valentine does a similar thing but D4C is just a dope shorthand

[runic adder]

Yea d4c is awesome

[winter spade]

Doremi just doesn’t flow with the more aggressive panicked tone

[true ore]

i wouldnt slander my favorite character

[runic adder]

Obladi deserves 6 episodes

All to itself

[true ore]

i wish

[winter spade]

Whole miniseries

[true ore]

but i think obladi oblada will star in the rock insect ova

[rocky charm]

Then call it dorime

[rocky charm]

YO

I FOUND A SONG THAT'S IN JOJO THAT ISN'T INFESTED WITH JOJO COMMENTS

[teal brook]

lmfao

[minor ore]

theyre turned off

[cinder wadi]

probably because of jojo comments lmao

[uneven tendon]

How strong is Awakening 3 Leaves?

[opal cape]

Almost all music videos on YouTube that we're generated by itself, have disabled comments

[minor ore]

That's the joke

[white pasture]

didnt that shit get calamity applied

on to it and did more damage

i gotta reread dr u smh

[glossy wedge]

Dam

Mamezuku rai has the best musical reference in jojolion easily

[minor ore]

Which isss

Cause there are like 3

[glossy wedge]

Favorite (for me) is g funk (intro)

[minor ore]

Ah nice

You should also check out "when mermaids cry"

[glossy wedge]

Alr thanks for the reccomendation

[minor ore]

Its not the same type of music but its related to rai

[lapis fractal]

Yeah I love that song

Never thought snoop dogg would be used for Jojo

[uneven tendon]

If Araki showed a baby being eaten by his mother and the protagonist dying back in part 1, of course he would eventually include Snoop Dogg

[minor ore]

That reminds me, I saved this image from twt and uh

Live action JJL wouldn't be that bad if done right ngl

[rocky charm]

Any live action wouldn't be bad if done right

It's just hard to do right

[near cedar]

'Specially when they change stuff

Sometimes for the worse/weirder

[uneven tendon]

What's wrong with Josuke's grandpa getting more focused on?

[odd valve]

I want a JoJo lion

[minor ore]

Ok

[uneven tendon]

I want another rock insect

But Obladi Oblada is probably the last one

[minor ore]

Jobin makes a grand return with an army of stone beatles

[minor ore]

wonder of u beats all

chad energy

[near cedar]

Wym what it's "originlly supposed to say"

[hollow fog]

"the point where those on a long journey are most likely to meet with an accident is just before returning home"

...does anyone know where this quote is from? And what is it originally supposed to say? This is a quote, right?

[near cedar]

It's supposed to say what it says

[hollow fog]

It's translated though? It's probably not 1:1 since I couldn't find the quote from just a Google search...

So is it actually a non-english quote that's been translated to english and that's why I can't find it?

[rocky charm]

What chapter is this?

[hollow fog]

98. Near the end actually

[rocky charm]

!w JJL 98

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/JJL_Chapter_98
Not the correct result? Use !w page JJL 98 for a direct link or !w search JJL 98 for a list of all hits.

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

*JoJolion* - Chapter 98

The Wonder of You (The Miracle of Your Love), Part 15 (ザ・ワンダー・オブ・ユー（君の奇跡の愛）その⑮, Za Wandā Obu Yū (Kimi no Kiseki no Ai) Sono 15), originally titled Endless Calamity, Part 4 (終わりなき厄災 その④, Owarinaki Yakusai Sono 4) is the ninety eighth chapter of JoJolion and the nine hundred forty-fifth chapter of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure manga.

[rocky charm]

Ah, damn, wiki didn't help

[hollow fog]

I can't find the dogpark translation of it for the life of me. The wiki didn't have anything about this either.

Yeah i tried already sorry

Yeah it doesn't seem like this is an english quote

[hollow fog]

Then who is he quoting

[near cedar]

Idk

[hollow fog]

This is a dumb question, right? Someone has to know the answer right?

[minor ore]

its just a phrase

phrases exists

you dont need to be quoting someone

[hollow fog]

That's why i can't find it?

[foggy gulch]

Maybe it's a Japanese quote? I wouldn't know tbh.

[hollow fog]

So it's like that thing they do where singular words in a sentence get 'emphasized' with the single quotes?

[hollow fog]

That's not a fun answer

[rocky charm]

Maybe it's an English quote that was translated into Japanese that the fan translators didn't recognize and worded differently

[minor ore]

its just a phrase

a saying

[hollow fog]

Who says tha shit tho

[minor ore]

a lot of people that have things to say

[hollow fog]

Besides JJBA part 8 major antagonists

[near cedar]

People

[minor ore]

why is it so important lol

it's just a quote someone said

[heavy ledge]

-hirohiko araki (2020)

[minor ore]

richard lionheart

oh wait

idk but it might reffer to him since he was held for ransom in austria while returning from the third crusade

[lean niche]

finally caught up to jojolion (WOO) and felt hype and a bit confused at the same time

[kind owl]

@lean niche, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

[lean niche]

slept on it and everything started to click and now i’m hype again

wonder of u and josuke’s spin really turned my brain into mush last night

[runic adder]

haha jjl is definitely the most confusing part

[junior coral]

It is the best

[minor ore]

did you read 106 too?

[lean niche]

yes, i did

[minor ore]

ok good

[lean niche]

like, how does rai know about spin

[minor ore]

no idea

[lean niche]

and did josuke have spin this whole time

[minor ore]

yes

because kira had inherited the potential for spin from johnny

[lean niche]

that’s nuts

i love it

[minor ore]

and i guess combining josefumis soft and wet with killer queen gave us this

[uneven tendon]

What if Josuke actually inherited the Spin from Yoshiteru Kira?

[minor ore]

we knew the stand and the ability was a fusion

[minor ore]

no

[minor ore]

but to this extent, no

[uneven tendon]

Another reason Josuke shouldn't be unfused

[junior coral]

He doesn’t “know spin”

[uneven tendon]

[junior coral]

He knows that it spins

[uneven tendon]

Well, he did hear about the legend of Johnny

[junior coral]

Not necessarily that it is the martial art known as Spin / Rotation

Rai did?

How do we know that?

[uneven tendon]

Josuke

Not Mamezuku

[junior coral]

And how do we know that he knew he used Spin?

The legends don’t mention his Stand

Or Gyro for that matter

[minor ore]

We see it

Lol

How does rai know about the spin

Hmmmm

[junior coral]

He doesn’t know about The Spin

[minor ore]

You're really a big chunhus hmm

[junior coral]

He knows that s&w’s bubbles spin and have mysterious properties

He just figured it out

[minor ore]

No

[runic adder]

bruh he mentions THE spin

[junior coral]

He isn’t knowledgeable about The Spin as if he has known about it all along

[runic adder]

and then demonstrated the spin for josuke

[minor ore]

He literally says "Its like my doggystyle" and "Noone can see it within their stands"

[junior coral]

He demonstrated something spinning

Not using the rotation to do anything we’ve seen it do before

[runic adder]

josuke also used the rotation to do something we've never seen spin do before

ima just call it the spherical spin for now

[junior coral]

We as the audience have to put it together that this is The Spin because the author uses Rai to tell us this. But Rai himself isn’t a Spin User anywhere close to how Johnny or Gyro were

[muted bramble]

update : m on ch34

[junior coral]

Burger we’re talking about really late game spoilers I’d leave for now

[muted bramble]

ok

[lean niche]

so when is chapter 107

[junior coral]

May 18th

[runic adder]

may 18

[junior coral]

Same day every month

[lean niche]

also joshu is down astronomically bad lmao

okok

[junior coral]

Anyway Rai calls it The Spin because that's what it is. It's like how for some reason everybody in SBR and JJL know that they are called "Stands" even though Mountain Tim named it that when we first meet him. Rai doesn't know that it's a technique passed down through the generations, he doesn't know that it is linked to life on earth and he doesn't know about the golden rectangle. He knows that the bubbles spin, and have the same properties as Doggy Style when it spins its tape, but he doesn't know the specifics of it. He is no Spin User like Johnny or Gyro.

[long shadow]

JOJO PART RANKING(my opinion is the best opinion)

1. Steel Ball Run(Gyro.)
2. Dimand Is Unbreakable(Best villain(fellow Mona Lisa appreciator))
3. Battle Tendency(Joseph now and forever will be my favorite Joestar)
4. Jojolion(Not finished yet, so far cool as hell tho, Plus Gappy boner rlly brought it up the ranks)
5. Stardust Crusaders(Stands were introduced, but made me Hella sad too)
6. Golden Wind(Requiem Scene carried)
7. Stone Ocean(made me sad)
8. Phantom Blood(lame, no stands)

[runic adder]

ok

[runic adder]

yet he was the only person to notice that the bubbles were spinning lines, demonstrated spinning objects for josuke

[minor ore]

2 over 8

[olive bobcat]

1 and 6 at the bottom

[junior coral]

He is aware of the properties. He is a smart guy, he's calculating. Look back at his introduction and tell me he doesn't notice things out of the ordinary

[runic adder]

he also has dark determination

[junior coral]

So?

[long shadow]

1 is where it belongs. 6 made me sad

[junior coral]

Dark Determination is a phenomena that anybody can have lol

It's not linked to Spin

And it sure as hell isn't something exclusive to Part 7

[runic adder]

yes but very few people have had it

[long shadow]

spin is in part 8

[junior coral]

Jolyne has it, Johnny has it, and Rai has used it

Flame that isn't what I'm saying

[runic adder]

zeppelis and joestars are the big contender(gyro got it cuz of ringo probably)

[long shadow]

isnt gappy using it with his bubbles

[runic adder]

yea gappys bubbles utilize spin

[junior coral]

Dark Determination isn't something that's inherited I hope you're not insinuating that

[minor ore]

But also caato had dark determination

[junior coral]

Anybody can have Dark Determination

It's not an ability

[runic adder]

im not but im saying it is a link between the two

[junior coral]

It's not a supernatural force

[runic adder]

what?

[long shadow]

honestly caato did nothing wrong

[junior coral]

Not true

[minor ore]

She killed a child

[junior coral]

lol

[long shadow]

her son killed a psychopath and she used him to save herself and her child. Most people would do the same in that situation

[junior coral]

He didn't kill the bully she did

Caato is the definition of evil

[long shadow]

not rlly

[junior coral]

She acted in her own self interest and killed a child even though she knows that's wrong

She didn't want to sacrifice herself to save her own child but involuntarily forced another child to sacrifice himself in her stead

How is that not an evil act?

[long shadow]

If you had to sacrifice yourself and never see your child again or you could kill a literal attempted murderer I would do option 2 every time

[junior coral]

She has justification of it, you can sympathize with her, but this is in the same vein as saying "Valentine did nothing wrong"

[long shadow]

IT WAS FOR AMERICA

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-12111808

[junior coral]

Or any villain for that matter

[long shadow]

VALENTINE DID NOTHING WRONG

naw kira did

he was a serial killer

no good reason

so was dia

he was selling drugs to kids

ew

[olive bobcat]

you cant say that any of the jojo villains did nothing wrong
doing so is just ignoring the plot

[junior coral]

Just because you have a "good reason" for committing murder that doesn't mean it's justified

You can justify it in your mind, but that's not justice, and it's cruel

[long shadow]

eh maybe it wasnt morally right but it was the best choice of action

plus

what about literally all people

gappy killed

[junior coral]

Gappy kills rock humans

[long shadow]

same thing

[junior coral]

First of all no they are not

Because he killed them all in self defense

They were going to kill him if he didn't off them

[sudden nymph]

Gappy also killed a regular innocent person too

[minor ore]

Isnt this "dark determination"?

[long shadow]

literal same thing here

she was gonna die

if she didnt

[junior coral]

That isn't self defense at all

That's looking out for your own self interests above someone elses

[long shadow]

your logic there is no justifying it

[junior coral]

that's sacrificing someone elses life who didn't volunteer for it

[long shadow]

the rock humans didnt volunteer lol

[sudden nymph]

Wait what is the debate

[hard meteor]

Yeah

[junior coral]

???

[long shadow]

If caato did anything wrong

[junior coral]

They were trying to literally murder Josuke and he got the best of them

Caato sacrificed a child's life to save her own when that wasn't called for

[long shadow]

that child was trying to literally burn a woman alive

AND

[sudden nymph]

I wouldn’t say she did nothing wrong but I also wouldn’t say that she is a super terrible person

[long shadow]

Force her son to do it

[junior coral]

Flame is saying she did nothing wrong

I'm saying of course she did

She literally went to jail

She is selfish

[long shadow]

Kina like when you kill a pedophile and go to jail

[kind owl]

@long shadow, Your Hamon Rank is now level 8 !

[long shadow]

nothing wrong

[sudden nymph]

Imo it doesn’t matter who it is you shouldn’t kill people but that’s just my opinion and most people don’t agree with me

[junior coral]

Instead of doing the tradition and doing the noble thing and sacrificing herself, she sacrificed a kid who had no part in the matter

[long shadow]

kid wanted to burn a person alive

and was creepy

[near cedar]

To correct it kid wanted Jobin to burn a house down