#jojolion
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JJoo
does he get called JoJo in part 8?
never.
yes
what?
he gets called kira and josuke
And josefumi
And Josefumi
Sb
And Secchan
I think they mean does he actually get called jojo
Someone told me the Suke in Josuke is apparently different from the Suke in Josuke of Part 4 Josuke so he's not even a JoJo in that regard
no
Maybe I'm just slow idk
The "Jo" is different
Giorno, Jolyne, and Gappy are the Jojos without ever being called Jojo once in their story
But it's still prnounced "Jo"
False lol
Jolyne's been called JoJo
Jolyne is called JoJo in the first chapter
Jolyne was called Jojo by her mom
by her mom and lawyer
By her mom and the lawyer by mistake
ok i am sorry that I forgot Jolyne
yeah
I only remember Johnny being called Jojo because some people called him "joe kid"
Can't believe I'm now a part of the manga crowd that waits once a month for a few shiny papers to come out
Giorno's never been called jojo
you should feel honored
Even though that's non-canon

lmao
Gappy is the only protagonist never to be referred to as JoJo in any media whatsoever
because it would be GioGio
until the end of Jojolion where Tooru wins and call Gappy "jojo"
He's called it in PHF but that's it
@junior coral, Your Hamon Rank is now level 34 !
Giorno is called GioGio in PHF
@junior coral It's funny how his real name is Haruno Shiobana lol
"I always loved you, jojo"
"It really is a Jojolion moment"
"Josuke... You are the JoJolion to my Calamity.."
Oh god no
It will be revealed in the end of JJL that the "lion" actually stands for million, and we get an Into the JoJoverse part 9 teaser as the last chapter
My prediction is that by the end Gappy will decide his own identity, not one that was given to him by Norisuke, nor one of his two halves, and the final line of Part 8 will be "Call me JoJo"
Mark My Worms -- 6th MMM TO BE INCORRECT 💔
valid
Gappy defeats all of his enemies and at the very end of JJL, Gappy gets eaten by a lion on the last panel
i actually love that
and especially if the last word of the manga is jojo and there is no part 9. perfect
Gappy dies of a cold
It's kind of corny but I am a corn ball
I would die of happiness if that happened if I am to be quite frank
That would be a really kino way to end his character arc
No part 9?...
It's definitely a bit cliche, but it would be cool
Which Araki would never do
I would be really bummed if there was no Part 9

yea bc part 8 is just the best imo. part 9 would steal its spotlight 😤
If he finishes JJL within two years he could do a Part 9 but it wouldn't be nearly as long as SBR and JJL
Araki would be the type of person to keep writing manga at 90
its selfish but dont care 😹
You're forgetting that he's a vampire
A vampire with his own stand called Easy Lover
Narratively speaking we kind of need a part 9
And both Araki and rock humans are allergic to mangoes
yes
Not really
Part 8 could possibly wrap up everything
Part 9 never 
I don't think JoJolion can close up the things that were started with Part 7
Yes we do need a part 9
Part 1-3, Part 4-6 and then part 7-9
That's what he planned
Probably
yes
JJL is almost over
25 chapters maximum
and the last part of each trilogy closes up whatever started in the first part of the trilogy
i can't wait for it to finish in 2029
I could see it finishing in 2024 at the very latest
but yeah i think Araki could do a part 9
Araki is Araki so you never know what he will do
the last time he mentioned his age he said he wants to retire at 60... and here we are. Plans change all the time
when was that?
A few years ago
he forgot that
bad meme
I mean it’s not like he can retire now with an ongoing part
Would he ever give the reins of Jojo over to someone else?
He also said that he wasn't thinking of future parts at the time and just wanted to focus on JoJolion in that same interview.
Never
imagine if Araki ends Jojo, only to announce Jojo Babies
I don't think he plans out on creating trilogy mega arcs, fans just happen to interpret it that way.
I think he has a general idea of what he wants to do at least
Like in how part 4 it was mentioned that Dio planned to use Keicho's dad for something and it turned out to be sort of what he needed for reaching heaven in part 6
I found this Comicbook.com article, not sure if its trustworthy though
Keicho's father didn't have anything to do with the heaven plan. In an interview, Araki just said Dio wanted to have someone stationed in Japan.
ah, my bad then
He just said he will have to do research when asked about Part 9 taking place in Italy, that's more of a non answer. I personally don't see him "deconfirming," a future part at a fun little event he was a guest in.
the subtitles from that event weren't totally confirmed so he may or may not have said that
I found this absolutely fantastic tweet from the week that JoJolion first released
well, it sure was really fucking
really fucking
Part 7 and 8 have been the least homoerotic stories by far tbh. When I started reading JJL, I fr thought I accidentally discovered some Araki-written pornography
Especially with the Daiya scene 
She never got a name
i rushed it and heavily regretted it
Reading JJL while visiting its discussion channel, respect.
disrespect
because now i have to re-read everything because i went through it too fast
^^
I don't recommend being in the channel of a part you haven't finished
he isn't the main villain
You make your best judgement when you get to that arc
bye
ZA HANDO
👌 primary bomb
Chadsuke
araki will do whatever the fuck he wants tho, i dont think he will take the risk to ruin it in case he doesnt really feel like drawing more
Technically Norisuke is the JoJo of this part

Technically his nickname is Johnny
You can have more than one nickname
yea ultimately it just depends on if araki wants to keep going with jojo
hes said hes had outlines for the parts up to 9 but as we've seen with early jjl a lot of stuff can change over a part
ye its a nice detail
perhaps he will just focus on making the ending of jojolion the best way possible
I dont think so
i think that maybe he was hoping to finish early but he thought of stuff in the middle of the journey
Jojolion doesnt seem capable of finishing off jojo
unless theres 2 years of it
araki is just leading us on so he can be 89 at the end of jojolion
29 years of jojolion
“Araki” is actually another form of the real mangakas Stand, who is a 19 year old college student
Joshu is actually Araki?
insectpoint actually
if araki doesnt write more he'll just take out a new rock insect and wreck havoc with that

La la la he he confirmed next rock bug
return of obladi oblada when?
Seems like they all drowned
maybe some of them fell off near the pool and theyre just gonna stick to josukes skin again when he gets up
Seems unlikely and unnecessary if you ask me though
gets out of bath
3 more O2s jump on him
multiply into 50
gets back in bath
This lasts 2 chapters btw
it takes up 5 pages of a chapter :troll:
woah
obladi oblada appreciators just need two more chapters to beat the d7 appreciators
Wou is d4c confirmed 
Btw, what does the JJL chapters role mean with the Requiem theories thing?
Are those theories that Soft & Wet is a requiem now or if S&W can beat GER
Both

Nah, Joshu is going to unlock Nut King Call Requiem

JoJo 🦁
I've never read jojo part 8 and I doubt I will ever so people have been telling me that wonder of you is d4c the fuck is happening 
Jojolion? More like: even sadder Evangelion
Wot
Araki serving pure kino with all those religious themes
I'm not gonna read it

I cant read Japanese
(Jojolion)-The end of jojo

It’s translated all the way to latest chapter
Give link, the chapter were people say wou is d4c
?when did they ever say this
Nobody says that

People in Jojolion don't even know Funny Valentine had a Stand
Ik what you are referencing
I'll do you one better:

I don't know why you are referencing it
We have enough choking
you have to see the end of eva
yeea
Classic Jobin, being best dad
No it doesn't matter if you get all the references
Jobin is such a good parent
You HAVE to see End of Evangelion
Jobin is the best parent
There is a very small amount of movies which I would consider "art"
One of them is the Phantom Blood movie?
Same energy
Starwars is a jojo reference
Pirates of the Caribbean is also a Jojo reference
No I meant I don't need to see it to understand the reference, I'll watch it, and EVA, but I understand that reference without seeing it
Oh OK then
honestly i hope the phantom movie re-releases on the 40th aniversary
😔 why
It's almost definitely shit
Sad as it is, didn't it never release because APPP lost rights to Jojo after the Quran incident?
People still want a Part 7 anime 
i also think araki wanted it to be stopped
If Araki himself didn't want it to be released, and we already know of the absolutely garbage changes that were made, those are pretty red flags
People believing bs again?
i dont know was it confirmed or just seems not true
It never got released because Egypt was piseed off at APPP for having DIO read the Quran in the SDC OVA
the ova came out in 2008
Also in 2007
no
LET ME FINISH TALKING
okay
The Phantom Blood movie came out in 2007
ALSO in 2007, the Egyptian government noticed the Quran in the SDC OVA
At this point in time, the SDC manga was currently being translated to English
Sales of the OVA and the English manga halted for a while
Araki had to redraw certain panels where DIO was fighting on a mosque and destroying them and replace them with generic buildings
But at least the movie gave us this
The manga production resumed, but the OVA release never did, because APPP lost the rights
After that, DP picked up the rights to Jojo
Oh yeah, that was another reason
dios true power comes from allah
And they made much better adaptations
🙏
who
DP
Ah
Well yes obviously because they adapted the manga and didn't change most of it
the movie would have at least fun for a year
You are correct
I checked, and the controversy was in May 2008, while the movie released in February 2007
And I looked it up and it seems that on average in that time period there was roughly a 4 and a half month gap from a movie's release to a home release
So there may have been "something else" going on behind the scenes that we don't know about
why does nut king still have both its arms 🤨
Chads like nkc don’t lose limbs after an exchange
how many chapters are currently out
106
Monthly
Usually 2 hiatuses a year where there are 2 months between chapters
So it’s more like 10 chapters a year than 12
geez thats gonna take a while, i wonder how long its gonna be
im guessing the at least the first chapter of part 9 will be out by the time i finish parts 6,7,and the remains of 8
Unless you take like 5 years to read those parts I doubt that
Yeah lmao
Depending on how fast you read, you can finish all 3 parts in less than 2 weeks
Yeah
i read so slow
took me 2 years to complete a book (percy jackson) because i was forced to read it and it was so boring
Are you being forced to read jojo
no no
and im ADD
Do you think Jojolion would've been a better part if NKC belonged to Josuke instead of Joshu, like originally planned?
No
hey percy jackson is great
also i just finished the first one in 3 days
so i might have a bias
well it wasnt percy jackson it was that series that comes after it, i think it was called Heroes of Olympus: Lost Hero
oh i havent read heroes of olympus
This is a very good question
Where can I read 106
Manga4life
I think NKC maintained both of it's arms because technically Joshu's right arm is still attached to his body
If it was completely gone, it would have only the left arm
Why isn't it's arm then smaller
Or maybe it's a metaphor to how strong willed Joshu is, and that even if he loses body parts he will keep pushing forward
And try to protect his family
🦾 
true
joshus willpower was so strong that it kept his stands arm intact
truly a legend among stand users
Joshu is so good that Araki wanted wanted to give Josuke NKC's Stand ability
And if Joshu got it instead, it obviously means he was the stronger person
How many chapters do people think there are left
Around 10
25 MAX
15-20 max
hmm


JOJOTIGER
8 BALLS THIS TIME

So Steel Ball Run was Jojocat
BTW, I have a very controversial take
steel ball run fan finally gets to read it!
johnny is a catboy
Joshu is unironically one of the best characters in Jojo
Ok so I started watching part 1 19 days ago and I just got caught up to part 8 now
@gentle socket, Your Hamon Rank is now level 7 !
And one of, if not the best, comic relief in the series
Joshu pre shit
wholeheartedly agree
Damn it took me a year and 2 months to get from Part 1 to being caught up with Part 8
No
damn thats quick
I've not laughed at joshu once
completely agree with this
I'm just a fast reader
Sorry, got confused with words

Analyze, only thing behind his actions is horny
Pre much
And always fucks it up
Because Jojolion isn't supposed to be black and white
Jojolion is probably one of my least favorite parts tbh
It's more interesting to have a character whose heart is in the right place, but constantly fucks shit up, than a straight up evil or straight up good guy
he isn't perfect and thats good
I feel no attachment to like any of the characters even though it's the longest part
Plus I'm not a fan of the big bad guy getting revealed at like the very end
Also, the Love Love Deluxe arc isn't appreciated enough
🤷♂️
true, gappy is best
Besides part 1 & 2 8 is probably my least fav
I mean, Tooru is the leader of the Locacaca organization, it doesn't make much sense for him to be a direct danger until there's nobody else left to deal with the Higashikatas
imagine even comparing 8 to 1 and 2
I might even like part 2 more
Cringe
and tooru didnt show up all the way at the end what??
Technically Tooru was forshadowed in chapter 64, and has his full appearance in 81
Actually he technically appeared in chapter 76
With Wu

tbf, since WoU is so long he's been around for over 20% of the part
And by the time Tooru dies, he'll probably be in like 25% or even 30% of Jojolion overall
And if JJL ends at, say, 120, then him getting his full debut at 81 means he's around for 1/3 of the PArt
Toorus been around for just as long as some of the other villains
Idk its just a boring villain
!w Kira Yoshikage
Yoshikage Kira (吉良 吉影, Kira Yoshikage) is the main antagonist of the fourth part in the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Diamond is Unbreakable, and the third main antagonist of the series. He also appears as the protagonist of the short story Deadman's Questions.
Cool stand
Tooru is the exact opposite of boring
His backstory is actually very interesting
How
And Diavolo wanted money
He lived with bees
only similarity it has to 2 is they are fighting superhuman creatures
What's your point
Finally a take I agree with. Joshu's up there with Okuyasu in terms of comic relief.
Diavolo isn't a good villian either
Yea
Diavolo and Tooru are good
Diavolo doesn't even come in at the end of the part lol
At least dio is an actual character
So is Tooru though
I think I slightly prefer Anasui as a comic relief over Okuyasu, though he is still very funny
Fuck I forgot about Anasui
Kira's around for roughly 2/3 of the Part, I guess
Love that guy
I wish anasui wasn't in jojo
Introduced in 69/174
That's kind of my main issue with Tooruphobes, a lot of the arguments used against his character are pretty unfair
60%
Why are your takes so bad
Anasui was perfect for Part 6's events
I wish you didn't read Jojo
I wish I didn't
He's funny and it's not like his shenanigans go under the rug. Jolyne decks him once or twice.
Lmao
I did not read jojo because I wanted to
But it's okay, eventually she let him ask her for marriage

Explains a lot of the awful takes if you didn't have your heart and focus in Jojo's.
Then don't read Jojo







I think a lot of people don't get the more morally grey tone in the SBR universe tbh
That's why we get stuff like ''Funny Valentine did no wrong'' or ''Joshu is evil''
I can appreciate it. I still really prefer a lot of the OGverse's handling of some things, especially of the Joestars
No respect for Jojolion Holly and Jojolion Kira?
Joshu fans when Joshu tries to rape Yasuho

That was a misunderstanding
No he's just dumb
No, it was literally a misunderstanding from both Yasuho and Joshu
Joshu is just dumb

To be fair. In the Paper Moon King arc, Yasuho clung onto Joshu and was talking about her being wet and stuff. A complete mishap from both parties
Obviously he jumped too quickly into conclusions
But he didn't want to harm Yasuho and even stopped once he realized something was wrong
Joshu is just dumb!!!! Dude wouldn't have stopped!!!
He was knocked unconscious
ARE YOU SERIOUS YOU ARE DISCUSSING JOSHU'S SCENE AGAIN
And
Poor Joshu, if Yasuho didn't hit him with a toilet sit they might've gone out to eat ice cream together
No
Nope
no
Hes messed up
I hate this channel
He wanted to embarrass her to kick her out of the house, he wasn't horny for his mother
"Nah guys it was an intellectual move he is such a smart man"

its the same two stupid convos in this channel
That's not about it being a smart move though
Dude no, I don't even find Joshu a good person. But he definitely didn't want to see his mom tits, he was trying to humiliate her... in his own Joshu way as Kaato was problematic but he wasn't horny for her lol
Look into the context of his actions rather than look at things at very surface level
Without any context
Hommie can embarrass his mom without removing her shirt and saying he wants to suck her boobs like God damn
Excuses
Again, part of the point about Joshu is that he is FLAWED
Not saying its not creepy, its just his way, and we cant do anything about it
its not an excuse lol literally the whole point was to be intentional gross to humiliate her
He wants to do good things, but he does them in ways that are socially unacceptable
Yeah, it was in his own way as I said as he was trying to scare her off. It was definitely not pure or socially acceptable though.

These people man
Don't see how these make him the best character

'''AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHH Daiya is cute but Joshu is evil''
It was also not socially acceptable for his mother to kill a child, i think joshu is ok with this one
I just find him funny lmao. His stand is sick too.
every single time its the same "hurr durr joshu incest moment" with these people
She also tried to threaten his dad
Still wanted Joshu to Ora Ora her
And he even defended Daiya by telling her Caato is on the floor
Because she is blind
What a wonderful brother

🙏
I respect them, but I very much loved how in original Jojo's, being a Joestar was far more significant and meant something while having its own unique curse. The SBRverse meanwhile doesn't really place any significance in the Joestar bloodline, with 70-80% of members not even being drawn or seen.
"Yeah yasuho i dont care stay mad"
I think that's a fair point
But personally I prefer them being not as significant in the new universe
It helps to ground them
Yeah, OGverse is all about the struggles and Soul of the Joestar family
SBRverse is about struggles of people who happen to be Joestars
That's a great way to put it
she took off the fucking toilet seat?
@foggy gulch, Your Hamon Rank is now level 22 !
Unless Dio shows up and reveals he's been causing all of Josuke's problems and also infected Rina and the Higashikatas with the Rock Disease
I simply prefer the soul and struggles of the Joestar Family.
He’s more of an asshole than joshu tbh
Makes up for it with ass
And then it'll be "Joestars vs Dio" again
were we talking about how joshu is good
And telling Josuke about Spin
true rais cake balances out the assholeness
He's an asshole with a nice asshole
The family tree getting as crazy as it did thanks to DIO being a vampire was awesome

Honestly, why Rai seemingly goes to the afterlife? He isn't that great of a person
How so?
Unless it’s never explained how he got spin lmao
He’s a recluse if anything
Yeah but he’s cool and that’s all that matters
He’s not an awful person but he does what is right
He was just kind of helping out josuke, until wou reveals it was him that killed rais parents
Mamezuku is not that bad, he just has this hatred of women, i like him for that, hes just like me
josuke never agreed to his terms
😳
He-he just like me Fr!!!!
based rai
Rai sticks to numbers a lot which makes him get into conflicts with other people
I mean the whole point of that was that Rai didn’t understand why josuke would care about Yasuho if she wasn’t essential to his goal
Yeah my point wasn't that Rai is bad, it's more that I don't think he is particularly deserving to reach Heaven
Wait a minute
Rai is just like me, but i wish i could be just like rai
damn based and dogpilled rai?!!?
Rai is just kinda lacking in the social cues department
Rai has his process of sacrificing the strawberry’s lower on the hill to virus’s and weeds so that the ones higher up can grow unperturbed
Reminds me of Joshuphobes who claim people only like Joshu because he reminds them of themselves
He only thinks of the essentials and efficiency
Like a lot of people in the SBRverse
True but I mean he’s just blatantly disregarded yasuho and josukes attachment to yasuho
He’s very logical and calculating but can’t understand people very well IMO
Yeah, that makes him based
Yasuho is called “strawberry” by Joshu and the stand they fight when they first encounter rai is urban guerilla, which burrows into your skin and makes you look like a pitted strawberry
That’s kind of like Joshu in a way but also not
Nah
Joshu isn’t that smart
Joshu is more of a whiny brat
He was literally applying his “sacrifice the lower strawberry’s” philosophy to Yasuho so he and josuke could complete their mission
Does anyone realize that rai is cool he literally knew josuke didnt agree to his terms and still helped him
Very based analysis, thank you
He’s pretty good at stuff like puzzle solving but he isn’t good with social interaction is what I meant
I wouldn't describe joshu as "calculating" , more like "short sighted"
Ye I get what you mean
I wouldn’t say he’s exactly like rai
But they have some similarities in a broader sense
Rai is portrayed as pretty smart
Because he is
Joshu is smart but narrow minded and emotional
Yeah I wasn’t saying they are the same I’m just saying their downside is similar
strong and weak
Ye ye, character flaws like rai and Joshus are based
Too bad rai is dead

Shush, don’t remind me
🥵
Pretty hot but not as hot as Joshu’s hair
Damn I really forgot how much middle aged norisuke looks like valentine
Nah Joshu is pretty smart
But not socially smart
He really does
It’s uncanny
They def aren’t related but it’s so similar
When is that flashback set?
That's from chapter 64
Then that wasn’t 19 years ago
That was like, 15 years ago
Cuz that was just before Caato got sent to prison
Jobin is 32 tho
Doesn’t make sense....
What the fuck
Ugh jjl timeline hurts my brain
That scene was 16 years prior
Oh 16 ok
Yeah was
Unless there's still hope for Jobin being alive
weird
So Caato...wait what the hell
Plot twist nothing matters
Jobin was 12 in mother and child
Yeah
But then it jumps into another flashback 4 years later
When exactly was Rai’s flashback?
So caato burried a child and was found 5 years later
17 years ago
14 years prior
Actually that would be cool
17 years ago according to wou
Make up your mind
Really?
so 1994
Nah, Rai was 17 when he met Norisuke
Pretty sure
Which seemingly was the funeral scene
Ok that makes more sense
But that doesn't make sense
Wasnt he 17
*16
Motjerfuckwr
No rai was 14 I thought?
Oh no
he was 14 during that flashback
I hate all of this
Yeah 14
Jobin is...16 at that time
But jobin and rai are the same age...
Flase
Actually Mamezuku is 1 year younger

It’s all wonky
But that was the first flashback he was 17
Rai would be 14 during that flashback but that doesn’t fit with him meeting norisuke at 17
The funny thing is that flashback was word of god, rai couldn’t have been lying
It contradicts so much lmao
Both the flashbacks
So his little backstory in ozone baby is a retcon
Yes
Yeah it has to be
There must be something else going on
Yeah so mamezuku was 14 when he attended his fathers funeral and met norisuke there
Hmm has anyone made like, an info graphic with complete timeline?
It’s either time fucking or retcon
I don’t think so
Caato changing universes :trollface:
No but wait maybe I'll try to do it
I’m smelling retcon tho
The timeline would be all over the place
Ye if nobody will do it I will
It would be, the book even contradicts itself
What if there were 2 Mamezuku's, and the Mamezuku we know is 3 years older than the Mamezuku shown in the flashback
Lmao

Rai is the Avdol counterpart
Mamezuku rai and mamezuku rei
Small rai
Makes sense
Two rais
Two rais
One complicated timeline
The second one will explain where he learned spin
Two josefumis, one human, one alien
We’re gonna get a third flashback explaining how rai knows spin, and it will retcon both of the other flashbacks

Lmao
Also, why Mamezuku thought this haircut was good
He got that flattop
It’s the Gregorio zeppeli cut
Family tradition yknow
Why gyros father thought it was good, why polnareff, why stroheim
Except Gregorio was cooler
Plot twist all three of them are canon
Lmao
||when I saw the rock people I thought of one thing||
That would mean rai abandoned the orchard at 17, regressed back to 14, and somehow knew about the orchard burning while he was living alone
AYAYAYAYAY
What if Josuke's bubbles are so strong that they change the order of time and space as the part goes on?


They already change space 😹
Please Araki don’t
Yeah, but now they affect time
“with these bubbles josuke, you can even bypass cursed””-rai
The bubbles are responsible for every inconsistency in the part
Oh god what if that line is relevant
That’s what nut king call go beyond is for
Imagine if Mamezuku was wrong about it, like with the karma aspect of Wonder of U
I mean it probably is relevant
Ooh that’s true
Rai makes a lot of conjectures
Flashforward had a focus on nut king call bothering hato just like how nut king call bothers time
Well he wasn’t “wrong” about the karmatic influence but he just doesn’t have the full picture
Plot twist the karma thing is real and that’s why Joshu hasn’t died yet
Fuck Tooru might not have the full picture
Gregorio was the most underrated dad in Jojo tbh
He got that pucci hair beard
He wasn't the most affectionate dude out there, but he was still a good dad
K
And he even took care of Wekapipo's sister, so he was still a good man behind the ''no sentimentality'' thing he had going on
he dismantles the timeline, allowing him to selectively pick and choose events to switch around and screw together.
He let gyro have his haircut, 0 respect for Gregorio
Lmao
Amazing
But at least he didn't scream at him

Tooru himself doesn’t know how calamities work, karmic retribution will never be explained

I’m 98% sure karmic thing was dropped
@hard meteor, Your Hamon Rank is now level 35 !
He has no idea how a calamity will form before it does
It definitely was
Yea
Even if it wasn’t dropped, it’s just not relevant to how the ability manifests
Or Rai was just incorrect
Not directly anyways
When a jojo character makes a conjecture on a stand, 100% of the time it has been correct
With the exception of rai
Could be
But that would make the prisoner thing a little weird
To be fair that Theory came out of no where and there was barely any reason for the theory
What would be the point of the scene if it had no real bearing on wou
Like you could say “oh rai and Kei had more karma therefore they died near instantly from the calamity while josuke and Yasuho had more time because they had less karma”
But like it just doesn’t matter in the end
Honestly Rai being wrong would make more sense
He doubted the calamity energy even existed when he had already seen it in action multiple times
Also Joshu has survived two calamities in a row and as much as I like Joshu if the theory was correct it should have done more damage
Rai just keeps losing
Well one calamity was minor and the other was major
But luckily, Joshu is so good that no calamity can stop him
True

Or maybe he had help from Donny Domino
The headbonk just seems like “get this idiot out of my way right now” sort of deal instead of going for major blood
It is pretty funny how minor the calamities are on his end
But how amplified a calamities damage is seems fairly inconsistent
Or atleast unclear
Maybe that's possible forshadowing to Joshu also being capable of using Spin?

It would be pretty hype if he had spin
And it was just reducing the damage this entire time
Guys, what if Kei could also use Spin? BTW's wheels were actually thin spinning lines
His nuts and bolts spin already it would be easy to implement

Plot twist Donatello comes back
They both come back
Donatello dolomite teamup
Why can't Rikiel come back?
Sure him too

And while we’re at it let’s bring back ungulo
Let’s bring back Giorno just to kill him
Honestly something like Underworld feels kind of needed rn, with the amount of unresolved mysteries we have
Honestly I wonder how araki intends to solve these mysteries in an organic way
Mystery man is AU Donatello
Eh part
Yeah, I myself made fun of the fact that last chapters of Jojolion will probably just be the characters solving mysteries
Mystery man solves every plot hole 🙏
Nah part 8 is top 3
Because he’s done a good job with tying in some previous mysteries with new exposition that the characters themselves find the solutions to
I also wonder why the Kiras' dad died
Same
JoJolion is about lion
@odd valve, Your Hamon Rank is now level 7 !
Maybe he was killed by a rock human lover, who gave birth to Tooru?
all right im gonna go

It’s really weird how the dad has a printed death date
Did kira’s dad die?
Yeah
Funny enough the same year josefumi was born
Also, technically Holly is another bisexual character in Jojo
He was born in 1992
And we already know who Josefumi's dad is
Johnny joestar
Imagine if someone didn’t know who josefumi was saw that and thought he was a old man
maybe kiras dad is just dead
I am tired of the theory that SBR Joseph was Josefumi's father tbh
Like what's the point of creating an alternate universe if we're going to have characters who do almost the exact same things they did in the original
Even weirder how the births of the other higashikata kids are drawn in, when they were born before 1991
Instead of printed
If josefumi is a joestar I don’t see any other way it could happen imo

Yeah it was 91
But then Damo referred to Josefumi as 19 in the Vitamin C flashback
20 or 19 lol
Oh he could be aged 20 now
By the time this happens
Josefumis b day was after he died :(
Fun theory
What if Josefumi didn't have a birthday, and him saying he died when he almost drowned was actually true?

Yeah his birthday could’ve passed after vitamin c he technically wasnt confirmed dead
Technically he's still alive, as a french fries lover instead of a noodles appreciator

there are like 6 fans of this part in the entire world or smth
We grow larger in numbers by the day
there are 3 types
Jojolion is still very popular, all Jojo parts are very popular
appreciators, regular readers and phobes
But most of the Jojolion audience come from Japan
And those people are good, because they know Joshu is based

joshuphobes are annoying
Indeed 🦾
They are
and tooruphobes are just as annoyinh
These people don't want to look into the context of his actions
And just want to deem him as a bad person because he does some bad things
Even though this universe isn't supposed to be black and white
not like josuke commited murder
"caato is the main villain lmao"
i feel that you hear that phrase more by people who are just up to date with spoilers
Caato being a main villain doesn't make a lot of sense anyways
its only possible with the kaato valentine theory
What’s she going to do? Throw cards at someone until they die
which doesnt make sense
She's a mom with a card deck as a Stand who killed one kid 20 years ago, vs the literal mastermind behind the entire part, with like the 2nd strongest Stand in the series
Also a person who is connected to rai, yasuho, and josuke
And the Higashikatas
The three protagonists of the wou arc
tooru josuke joshu
yeah, caato has met gappy once and thats it
And he also insulted Joshu, the 4th major character in the WoU arc
Not really, I mean like he’s influenced them in some way
Tooru caused holly disease
caato is an accomplice and nothing more
And Tooru also killed their older brother
And killed his parents
getting ready to show himself
Yep
Finally
Flashback mans stand is a lion
nah it's that one dude who appeared in josuke's memories once in chapter 3
Plus, Tooru has one of the best designs for a villain in Jojo
What if flashback man is like the flashback hero from josukes memories in part 4
That's mystery man
We never see him again
What if mystery man is actually Josuke's savior?
mystery man is an alternate version of mystery man?!?!?1
guys trust me
tooru is hot pants brother who she abandoned
tooru pants confirmed
?!????????
Mystery man is future gappy
That travels back in time
Hey ya! Vs. wonder of u
Hoodie Tooru
Josuke was blonde the whole time
I don't know how he kept his afro intact, but at least he came out of the ground with drip
That would be interesting
Wonder of U
gappy acheives all the stands
they finally used the dropped josuke time travel plot point!
Soft and wet requiem

Clench what 😳
Rocks that are on fire
Clench deez nuts 
Tooru is such a chad, gave Yasuho cool rocks to impress the kids at the camp
Maybe he isn't so bad after all?

Also Josuke is unconsciously using spin from part 7 correct?

Yea
The same might have been true for josefumi and Kira
What if one of the reasons the Locacaca organization targeted Holly was because she is also a Spin user?
yeah hes actually the protag in all of this
Tooru did nothing wrong, bad people just stand in his way
They targeted her cuz she was doing locacaca research
It’s possible the reason they targeted rai was cuz he knew spin tho
Well I doubt she knew spin consciously
what if tooru is the protagonist
Also, I think people slightly overestimate Wonder of U's intelligence, because in stuff like the speech in chapter 92 it was probably Tooru speaking through the Stand
If she knew spin consciously, someone would have had to teach it to her
Which doesn’t make sense as spin in the joestar family was lost once Johnny died
Nothing says he passed on spin to George
Yeah he would be too young
But maybe it's passed down genetically?
Kira and josefumi probably use spinning bubbles without knowing it
Like Hamon in the old universe
Which explains why they both have bubble based stands 
It has to be
No reason why josukes bubbles would use spin unless he knew how to use spin
His daughter was also probably too young
funny valentine
Unfunny valentine
the unfunniest valentine
where can i buy them
the second man in america with the in their name

the
Also, we should get more family interactions in the anime
And more scenes between Holly and her kids
i hope they animate the fish sasuages part
They def will
he observes
Le Split bubble
No reason to include it anymore, now that we actually know what his bubbles actually are
It’s iconic tho
what are they? i thought they were spinning lines
And it’s just a dope visual
Yeah, but it doesn't make sense with the ''those are spinning lines''
I mean it doesn’t make sense that they have a star on them to begin with
That was only in a few pages
It’s jojo, it’s all pseudoscience




