#jojolion
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good 🗿
Speed king cbt
I wish I could animate like that but that’s not mine lol
@Noonvincent on twt does it
Tooru is an underrated villain
yes, mainly because no one else knows about him in parts 1-7
I'm surprised I heard nothing about Tooru
I don't really see how he's underrated. There isn't anything phenomenal or particularly of interest about his characterisation or motives up to this point. Right now he's just a villian that wants to sell something for money.
that's a great point
^
He has nothing that makes him unique except his Stand
OK yeah his FaShIoN~~~~ is also very unique
Polnareff was the most gentleman character of all time
Nah, that was Jonathan
tooru wants the rock humans to rule over society
Polnareff wasn't that much of a gentleman
I do find it dumb how people hate Tooru for doing bad things though
the immortality industry he wants to create through the rokakaka will grant him the resources (money) to get to that goal
I think that in chapter 106, if Tooru does get hit by the Explosive Spin, we'll probably get something like Funny Valentine, who after being hit by Tusk Act 4 we were finally shown his backstory and motivations
josuke might have those fancy soap bubbles, but tooru's drip exists outside of this world
Tooru's swirls are so dripping that he probably created them using the Spin
tooru is a zeppeli
Plot twist: Josuke isn't actually a mix of Josefumi and Kira
@leaden summit, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
It sort of is, I still love him as a villain tho
I mean, his ultimate goal is that, but his relationship with yasuho makes him very interesting
I like how the best thing Tooru has ever done is giving Yasuho some rocks
And ofc his overall personality and stuff is why I like him
But like I said, in the next chapter we will probably get more info on his motivations
Yea and his past for sure
Meh I feel we’ve gotten enough ,he already gave that long winded speech in 102
I also hope WoU finally uses it's wrist blades
Because so far he had to rely on calamities and rock insects
Wou had wrist blades?
Yeah
From the first time we saw it
But I don’t think those are coming back
Especially now since the bubbles targets on tooru specifically
Considering how well planned the WoU arc has been so far, I doubt it wouldn't come into play
We should also get WoU legs
Does wou even have legs or is it a death 13 situation
His ultimate goal is rock humans ruling society and being the dominate species
Yea, basically pillar men again with extra steps
But I’m not really concerned with his motive in that regard
I still think he’s awesome
I do wish we saw specifically why he considers that to be his goal
With pillar men, very clear their advantage and superiority to humans
With valentine, it was just nationalism instilled in him at a young age
Rock humans don’t have a huge advantage over normal humans, except for their stand normalcy
@uneven tendon i would go so far as to say there is not anyone in jjl that is close to a selfless human level
Rock humans are often said to be at a complete disadvantage
I'd say Norisuke is the closest to that
But he was also okay with Daiya keeping Josuke as a slave without memories
Yeah early norisuke had fucked morals
You could say Araki forgot
who is the person that pops into josuke's memory in the first fun fun fun arc?

they remind me of valentine
we dont know yet
yea but eventually he grew to appreciate josuke i think
He was never seen again
Maybe we will find out in the future.
everyone at the start of jojolion was way different than their final product
norisuke changed a bit
they were all way sketchier at the start
I think the designs were the biggest changes
when i saw his memory i was thinking maybe the guy at the start was norisuke? idk
also jobin in the first chapters looks so different
like i thought the first part of jojolion was just gonna be josuke going through every single member of the higashikata family
damo concept :)
It was
eh theres a theory its jobin + norisuke theory, doesnt hold up much
In the same year
Bruh seriously what was good with this dude
bruh thats crazy rock disease does that to a mf
is that confirmed
It’s not
Also remember when Joshu had the worst haircut in Jojo, instead of his chad haircut?
The “early damo” concept it is a theory
no, hes always chad
both haircuts are atrocious but his present one fits him better
I was referring to josuke going through each member of the family for the first half
ohh
Actually, the reporter from the WoU arc had a much worse haircut
not really tho
but it felt like it could have happened
with norisuke and all
i prefer what we got with shakedown road and walking heart
and i am a rock
The flashback man has not been mentioned since his first appearance and everything we have on him is speculation
yea pretty much
yea he deserved to die for that cut
and what sucks is that we cant even tell if coloring is really the final product(i doubt the coloring team knows the plot given their prior mistakes) so we cant even make analysis based on that either
He looks like he would be into that weird baby fetish.
we're really left in the complete dark about the baby and myster yman
Araki being praised for brilliant writing yet always relying on the token ugly character to die in service to the plot
Shame no character can match Tooru's drip
unparalleled drip
"relying"
But most people who read Jojolion can't appreciate his drip, and think only his Stand has drip
they dont wanna pursue his level of drip
Laughs in Okuyasu
i think they mean shigechi
Shigechi is handsome, not ugly
Technically Yasuho is 19 @runic adder

just kinda pushed him into the wall and poof
She's legal now
Whenever you see an ugly side character suddenly appear you know they're gonna die immediately
what?
when did i say yasuho wasnt 19
Yasuho and gappy aren't adults?
They are
They are
they are of age
Is this the character that someone said might be Damo's early design?
Though mentally Gappy is a child
True
I think I know who that is
whom
do real amnesiacs act like gappy? in the first few chapters gappy really did act like a child, hes matured a lot
George 3, Johnny's son
What if that was a flashforward to gappy's future self
yea
but its not confirmed
i mean, josuke saw it tho, josuke is the one in the flashback as well
Yeah but how would gappy remember him if he was dead
Luckily, Damo got a much better design
it would be strange for it to be a flashforward
Because he wasn't actually dead
some serious time fuckery is required
Wait how? George would've been long dead or old when Kira and Josefumi was alive.
It could be his spirit or something
Spin is weird
Shame Josuke didn't have as much drip as his great great grandfather
Imagine having only one hat instead of 2
George survived somehow
Araki didn't reveal how yet
Johnny rockin the sailor hat no cap 🔥
I prefer johnny's boulder hat, he "rocks" it better

Lol
I knew you were a good lad since I saw your username
I don't like Donatello though
😔
lmao, BIG SPIN does that to a person

not based
understandable ig
That’s Fair
At least I'm not an Ungalo fan
That will change with the anime
Ungalo fans will rise up
i kinda want silver haired donatello
ik dio had blonde hair but i want my dream to happen
And I want blue ANASUI
So based
Part 6 had pretty bad color palettes tbh
Jolyne's colors already look horrid in the anime
idrc if blue anasui or pink anasui happens, i much prefer pink but blue would be fine
jolyne doesnt look good so far
It's got like a puke yellow filter
Nah, she looks great
Always has been
maybe they changed it for the promo
Probably
It's like coloring with bile
Giorno for instance looked pretty different from the part 5 anime announcement and the actual anime itself
Reminds me of part 3's shitty colors
I’m fine with jolyne colors for the most part
it just feels muted, compared to how vibrant part 6 was
@uneven tendon, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !
Changing up color palettes isn't a bad thing
ik, im saying i just dont like jolynes palette
hm, i actually like the muted colors better
Muted colors isn't Jojo-ey enough
part 5 really felt like it was all over the place, and that they didnt know how to color it
Pink giorno is better imo
^^
ehh i feel like the extremely saturated colors only really fit araki's art, not the anime
and blue to pink is much different than jolynes new palette
Honestly, we didn't need any colorings for the manga, only the few pages Araki colored
maybe that's just my personal taste of either having extremely blinding colors, or deep and dark colors
strange taste but ok
Jolyne's anime coloring is mostly the same as the manga just WAAAY less saturated
idk it's one or the other, i dont like anything in between
yeee
yea, i like it like that but bc jojo's so flamboyant i'd definitely see why ppl wouldnt like it
can't wait to see the colors for the rest of the cast tho
I think it's bad since it's reminding me of part 3's anime and that was pretty bad
araki's art looks like a fruit rollup
Which is what makes it so great
Yeah part 4-6 era was kind of a mess
But not as good as black and white Giorno
arakis is cool and all but if im reading colored im not gonna read that psychedelic coloring lmao
i prefer colored to bw, just my preference, araki has a great style in bw as well
The psychedelic coloring IS jojo
To me at least
I only got in because of part 4's unique art direction
yea i get it
araki has some interesting color ideas
and his idea of no canon colors really makes for more creativity
Speaking of.... If part 6 has a green sky all is forgiven
How's my name?
good
Soon, 9 days from now, the Tooru fans will rise up
green sky would be so cool
The jojo games give SO's maps a green sky and it looks really nice
i hated part 3 backgrounds for egypt and all but part 4 looked nice, part 5 excelled with its backgrounds and beautiful sky
but a green sky would fit so well for SO
Lmao i remember people speculating about part 5 having a red sky
making italy look like well, italy looked great
Part 5's backgrounds are masterful
maybe a normal look wasnt a favorite choice of fans but i loved it
I think the animators took a trip to italy for the anime
!w colored pages
This is a list of manga pages from the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series as well as other stories that were colored by Hirohiko Araki. This includes special artworks published in the magazines Weekly Shonen Jump and Ultra Jump (for the main series). However, magazine covers are excluded.
They’re based off real locations Araki went to I think
that would be so cool
I don't think they'll be taking a trip to florida any time soon 😬
hehe yea

But anyway blue annasui and/or green sky would redeem part 6
I'm pretty sure Araki also drew and colored this amazing art
thats a great yasuho
bruh ceasar breaking his hips so fucking hard
early soft and wet was ugly af
*That's just Yasuho with a chad sailor outfit
im glad with using this as the yasuho decision tho

Early JJL was so ugly
Art wasn't as good as SBR unfortunately
ever part looks ugly originally
part 4 probably had the most massive shift, but part 8 is a bit noticeable
Yeah the designs need time to get ironed out a bit
DBZ villian ears
ye, i dont think jjl is that bad early on
They usually have way too much details and unnecessary accessories
And slowly transform into an iconic design
yea
SHAVED NORISUKE
White Joshu is great Joshu, but the blue and green fits him a lot more
ew
yea i think he has a great palette
😳
that actually looks fucking beautiful
*Yasuho looks fucking beautiful
Orange gappy love
dunno her but yes
Also, saying Josuke has the most drip in part 8 is objectively wrong
Because his clothes were Kira's
reject orange gappy, return to pink gappy
kira>josuke for sure in drip
If the anime gives part 8 a yellow sky then orange gappy would fit it best, anything else needs a white gappy though
pink damo 😳
yellow soft and wet is cool, not sure i love it with white gappy
white joshu is nice and all, but blonde Yasuho 😳
Pink kyo
fits the theme here tho
Honestly, I would like Yasuho to be blue instead of pink
Shuiesha jobin is goated
I'm still not feeling the tooru colors
And Shuiesha Tsurugi?
eh they could be better for sure
I pictured him with a lumberjack red shirt
Those suck
He’s fine too
Except tooru his colors are wack
Like goddamn
tsurugi has a mostly bland design but its fine
I miss when Nut King Call did significant things than just float behind Joshu without much else.
Thank god the anime usually overhauls a lot of color choices
Look at how much drip Tooru has in the fan colorings
My favorite is this one though
thats pretty good
lets just hope gold wou is given justice
i prefer silver but gold could work i think
but yea, shueisha messed up with tooru
his colors arent that ruined but since hes the main villain every detail counts
his pants and hair are my big problem with him
Still better than the Wonder of U we got
yo josuke doing the giorno challenge
They massacred wou
true
I’m thankful we don’t see this design again
my poor wou...
We'll probably get more of naked WoU in the next few chapters, so that's unlikely
theres a volume getting colored this month iirc
I really like base WoU's design tbh
“Next few” you mean 1 or 2 chapters?
I really like WoU in general
so maybe they can justify wou colors
Yeah
Both are good but this is it
Also, Shueisa for some reason didn't take into account that the head doctor's wearing gloves
So they gave him hands without nails
Fucking coloring team
Terrible work
One of the constant inconsistencies that got patched up in the colored anime
The real coloring is gonna look bad
Hopefully they do a alternate color for that cover
Imagine if the part 6 anime keeps the coloring mistake from the colored manga
From when Dio is shown to be in front of sunlight
Tooru has such a goofy villain color scheme
Another reason why he is underrated
Hey give them some credit, they still colored almost the entirety of jojo
God I hate the manga coloring team's work
And the inconsistencies get patched by anime anyways(unless anime adds new ones)
Eh, yeah sure. Just hate how little thought was put into a lot of it.
Not even the anime is inconsistent with the colorings and it's on a far more tight schedule than the colored team's manga work (I think)
The colored team is fine
What a nice sunny day
Tbh they upped their game for part 8
I always read in black and white but part 8 looks pretty good colored
For part 7
Part 7 coloring does like kinda weird at the start
Gets a lot better as time goes on
They also thought Tooru's vest and undershirt was just one long sleeve shirt and colored both purple
Early part 7 coloring is really ugly
They also made Tooru's magnificent swirls hard to see
They made em blue
His swirls were done so dirty
I hate a lot of the new hair colors
They used to be vibrant and colorful
And now it's just brown and grey
Let’s just hope the journalist isn’t ruined 
And like dark blue
I feel like tooru is the really big outlier in colorings
The vast majority are very good for main characters
They just kinda fumbled the bag with tooru
And wou
Like a clean 2 for 2 miss
Don't worry, they will recolor Tooru once the loyalists start to rise up after chapter 106
you mean when he dies?
Maybe they’ll retcon his colors, doubt it tho
*Is in pain and we're shown his true motivations
Nah, it will go past December
“Happy 30th anniversary for Jojolion!”
"happy 30th anniversary for the wonder of u arc"
"Happy 30th anniversary to the hiatus!"
Jojolion 3
yooooo
Araki dies and comes back on the 3rd day of the lifelong hiatus
He is risen
Lmao
Someone please explain Jojolion to me
Man with no memories wants to figure out who he is then meets rich people with family curse and fights over fruit with other humans but not quite humans
but epic
ight bet
I've been reading JoJoLion and even I don't know what's going on really.
I'm caught up and everything but good god is it weird. It might be the the most bizarre part of the bizarre adventure yet
Idk I think I explained it pretty well
if you need an explanation for anything this channel is here
but yea its for sure the most bizarre
I get the story but holy fuck.
Tooru and his bugs named after the dumbest song names.
lmao yea thats how i feel a lot
its just all nonsense songs and i love it
I nearly fuckin shit myself when he brought out De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da
I will at least give respect for the fact he actually listens to the song he named his stand for at least.
At this rate I'm expecting "Da Ba Dee" as the next rock insect.
awesome
scooby dooby doo
we are pursuing you 
I know Part 8 is a semi remake of Part 4 but I don't think we're going that far.
Can't wait for the anime to hear the VA completely exhausted every time they have to say it
Man in the Mirror already had Illuso's VA breaking
when we find out more about why rai's orchard was attacked by rock insects they will have to say do do de da da da again
hopefully multiple times
Dododo de Dadada is easier to say
true true
must be hard not to break character, if you have to say nonsensical words as a threat over and over
And not only that, like an old serious man has to say it
Doremifasolati do and Obladi Oblada are not better
Araki’s editors probably asked him if he had to use those names but he insisted it’s vital for the plot
At this point I don't think Araki even has editors. Who the hell is going to tell this possible vampire no.
Correct
No Hes kockyoin
Can I confidently say that Josuke has 2 biological dads? No women involved
Y tf am i so hyped for these beetle fights lol
@timid badger, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
Nah
i have a jojolion chapter 106 prediction but I´m gonna write it in spanish because I don´t know english
Yasuho muere por que es la siguiente en la cadena de la calamidad, Tooru que gravemente dañado por el ataque de Josuke, Josuke se logra liberar de Obladi oblada y va a buscar a Tooru en persona para darle una paliza, aunque seguramente Wonder of U consiga algun power-up para ahora sí empezar la batalla final entre ellos dos
@low talon, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
If Yasuho dies that would be so sad. This theory is good.
I don't think Yasuho will die since she narrates the beginning of part 8
Good theory i want that to happen really bad
a close range fight
but I do not think Yasuho will die
someone translate for me please 
@west reef, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
Tooru dies on my birthday
So not next month?
theory : Tooru is actually Giorno Giovanna
“Why yes, my last name is Giovanna, why do you ask?”
soy el único que ve el paralelismo entre passione y la organización de la Rokakaka??????
In what way?
piénsalo bien, tenemos al lider Diavolo/Tooru que tiene una fachada de una persona distinta con diferente edad Doppio/Eldirector aparte de tener sus propias capos como Bucciarati y Damo
es por eso que pienso que Tooru sí va a ser el villano principal de Jojolion
Nah I don't think Diavolo and Tooru are a good comparison
Diavolo and Doppio were 2 souls living in the same body, while Tooru is one guy with one soul, who also has a sentient Stand
ló
thats a pretty cool point actually
I’m still learning Spanish, but the key points are that Yasuho dies from pursuing Tooru, Josuke breaks free from Obladi Oblada and he starts looking for Tooru in person
no me refiero a eso, me refiero a la fachada y como es dos personas al mismo tiempo
I agree that their structure is pretty similar
also everyone in the higashikata family have "King" in their stand name.... I wonder what that is leading to....
I think Pepsi's points on Obladi Oblada and him going for Tooru in person are true
But Yasuho dying?
Nope
Soft King
ella es la jobro de esta parte, Araki ha vuelto a esa tradición
quién era Soft king?
And in part 4 technically no Jobro died, since those who did weren't really friends with the Duwang gang
So what is your point
Plus, Mamezuku already died
Part 8 has generally broken away from some traditions, there weren’t really any major deaths until recently
ha vuelto, lo dejo de lado en la parte 4, pero luego en la parte 5 solo Mista ( el cual no es un jobro) en la parte 6 todos murieron menos Emporio, y en SBR Murió Gyro, no sé en que momento dejó la tradición
I don't think Jobin is dead, I think it's a fakeout
I really hope so too
Keep it English
confirmaron que Jobin sí está muerto, me gustaba mucho
Joseph was also technically said to be dead 2 times, and he still came back
i won´t say that in english, I´m just learning the verb to be
What

He says he's only just learning english
But back to the point, I think Yasuho dying is unlikely
If anything, it's much more likely she and Josuke would end the part being a couple
Since now it's just teases and hints they are in love with each other
"teases and hints" they are so in love bro
i dont think araki will pull a gyro for part 8
If Josuke ends the part alone and marries a random woman in between parts 8 and 9 that would really suck
that would be awful
Let's hope for a Jojolion wedding at the end 🙏 🙏 🙏
Maybe Karera can also get Joshu
no
lo tengo
we dont even know if karera will be an ally after what she said lmao
el ataque de Josuke hará que la calamidad vaya hacia el, dejando que Yasuho pueda evitar la puerta, todavía hay bodaaaaaaaa
Technically Joshu also isn't an ally
im just using the shitty google translator for this guy lmao
He's neutral
eh i would consider him an ally to yasuho
and he helped josuke in shakedown road
Yasuho wouldn't see it that way
joshu still wants to "protect" yasuho and all
Google translate is really good these days
Btw Swe Coo, isn't your name very oudated?
indeed it is but its not a great substitute for real talking
Yes but i think it's funny
Makes sense
Christ no
El ataque de Josukes no puede afectar la calamidad, ese es el punto de las burbujas.
Joshu fans waiting on the redemption arc for 10 years of the manga
but joshu IS christ 
The female characters aren’t rewards lol
Then who would Joshu end up with?
NOBODY
Nobody!
He does
if karera loved josefumi then no way she would like joshu
He deserves nobody!
joshu will literally never get redemption
Joshu hasn’t done anything to deserve a relationship
Maybe Joshu gets into older women and falls in love with Holly?
he doesnt deserve to be with a girl
Wait not even deserve
Nobody’s interested in him
that as well
I think Joshu is on the path towards redemption
Maybe after they defeat Tooru, he gets a fresh new haircut and maybe a new arm from Tooru
No lol
they would be turned off immediately by not just his haircut but his insane sexual assault
And starts being more charismatic
it will never happen
joshu es un perdedor, y eso me gusta
@low talon, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !
joshu is a great character for the sole fact they will never be a solely goodperson
Joshu is an asshole to laugh at not a character who deserves redemption
You do realize Joshu isn't some sort of monster, right?
I blame araki for dividing the fanbase on joshu with milagro man, he could have been another comic relief but he just had to add the slightest bit of self awareness to him
estoy de acuerdo
Aha... so that makes him a not piece of shit somehow?
do you see how he treats yasuho
Joshu does do bad things, my point is that he isn't evil
.
even then at the start he stole a random dudes wallet, even if we kinda saw a better side of him in milagro man hes still an asshole
He can be an asshole and have good intentions
He isn't evil, he's a piece of shit person either way
Don't gotta be evil to be a pos
and even then his intentions arent even good, given what he does in 103
he wants to sacrifice for yasuho but then makes so many suggestive comments and all
"This'll be better then sex right?" Or something
No that's actually a good example of my point, he had good intentions but completely fucks it up because of how socially inept and weird he is
yeah
That's because Joshu is also an idiot and doesn't understand social behavior
and norisuke completely enables his pervy behavior and all
I think that was a funny moment though, what i don't get is when people are completely disgusted with him every time he appears
he does that for all his kids except jobin
Because to some people, a bad or meh person = bad character
Like Tooru
that was hilarious lmao
my favorite joshu moment is shakedown road but the exchange comes close
Imagine if Joshu is the one to defeat Tooru, using Nut King Call

Another favorite is when he talks on how there is no god
how can joshu not believe in himself?

And then they made him ridiculously angry about yasuho whoring with josuke in the next chapter with his tiny hand, bruh my sides were in orbit
this is my all time favorite panel of joshu
That's WoU
i dont think we will ever know if it was calamity or joshu that acted like that, and its funnier if we dont know
It's probably a mix of both, but WoU probably made him angrier than what he normally would be
Yeah
yea i assume so
Honestly Joshu was pretty scary in that chapter
But then in chapter 105 he reverts to being a chad
after all that i still think joshu wanted his arm back but wouldnt have killed tooru, calamity probably pushed him to try to kill yasuho
i dont think thats how i remembered it
Josuke and Holly lose their stone parts and go back to normal, Joshu get a new arm
nah
Protecting your crush from a plane door is pretty epic
i dont think holy is getting saved anytime soon
true, he still hasnt done it tho
He can't
I think kyo will finally return next chapter 🙂
and i think josuke looks awesome post loca 6251, he should keep the look
What do you think will happen then, that Araki will pull another Marco on us and have her die anyways?
Kei wa shinda
no, its just unlikely since theres only one new locacaca
at this point its most likely tsurugi that gets it
or possibly norisuke
there are so many unknowns with the flashforward its hard to tell
Nori is dead
Actually, since they want to us the fruit to cure the rock disease, which Holly is also suffering from, that also mean that she would also be saved
But the issue is that she will probably still have the missing parts from her brain
Norisuke was knocked out wasn't he?
he lost his hand iirc
I did not notice that holy shit
I think he is heavily injured, not dead
Yeah my guy's fucking dead
Jobin for instance probably used a lot more heat on the bully that attacked him when he was a kid, and he still managed to survive that
But barely
How is he carrying him upright too
Paper Moon King Act 2 confirmed
i dont think its upright, just a weird angle
Kid Jobin is not as strong as adult Jobin
i mean, at this point with whats happening with tsurugis stand...
TBH I'd be fine with Norisuke dying, I just don't think it's the case
i think his injuries are terrible, just like jobins
there is a slim chance of return
Norisuke will wake up and then die afterwards then right?
maybe?
What if Holly activates her Stand and heals them?
we have no idea what pmk indicates in the flashforward
Because he didn't have his hand cut by jobin
He did
i thought jobin used speed king on the hand yea
What if Norisuke in the body bag during chapter 83 was actually Tooru?
And Tsurugi used PMK
!!!!!!!
which in fairness, could possibly be healed(not reattached but like, could still be alive)
why would tsurugi help tooru tho
Because he wants that drip
tooru is tsurugi future self confirmed 
Also, imagine if Jobin's 2nd child has the strongest Stand in Jojolion
I remember an old theory that WoU was tsurugi's true stand
2nd child???
Mitsuba was said to be 4 weeks pregnant
That's why she sacrificed her nose and other body parts
i heard a theory that all the events of wou are just tsurugis stand going haywire, and they were chasing a random doctor lmao
yea but shes pregnant
i doubt the baby is gonna help them with its stand...
You forgot about Baby Stand?
That one seemed to cause more problems than it fixed
yea for sure
it was probably written before HD reveal
wait has the gate been properly explained yet
when wou was there and the gate closed
Satoru is such a great design
but tsurugi also said they blacked out
even as an old man he has drip
Satoru has the most drip out of any JJL character
Jojowion
Sorry, but Tooru has more drip
They?
Incredible afro with teddy bears on his jacket
Same person :))))
And base WoU also has massive dri

they is a neutral term of he/she, doesnt have to indicate nb
Tsurugi is a dude tho, we know that
wou and tooru in all its forms, have massive drip
Also, do you think Holly actually knows what Josuke is, or was she having her normal episodes of confusing between people?
yes i know, i just use they a lot, not trying to say anything about tsurugis gender preference
Using "they" is a good habit tho
Alrite then


wish we could go back to happy times of these two
Sadge
Jacksepticeye!
no
Virgin Norisuke getting angry at Jobin for killing Ojiro vs chad Norisuke who is high fiving Jobin after he made an epic Mitsuo Aida reference
norisuke is always chad, take that back
Except for the one time he wanted to keep Josuke as a slave without memories for Daiya
true true
He wanted that???
Yeah
yea, he was ok with daiya controlling josuke
TBH I think Norisuke's personality changed a bit from early Jojolion
i guess he just grew to like josuke, and didnt want to capture him lmao
for sure
Because Norisuke keeping Josuke as a slave is pretty inconsistent with his ''right path'' thing
Did he even know what Daiya was doing considering they don't know what each other's stands do
like ive said before, almost everyone in higashikata family was incredibly sketchy
tsurugi knew a lot of things and hinted a lot but they didnt really know much all things considered
Early JJL: I think Norisuke is possibly the mv
Later: okay well that's a 180 NVM
lmao basically
Hato is probably the 2nd best person in the Higashikata family after Norisuke, and she also thought that Hawaii is in Japan
Falling in love with Damo was pretty stupid though
If Norisuke was the best he'd raise his kids to not be cunts
shes not a creep like daiya and joshu, isnt...whatever tsurugi is
Except Hato she's not a cunt
Why?
well yea, but shes not really a bad person for believing in love, even if it was really strange
It's hard to do that when you're a single dad for most of their lives and you're a busy dude with a successful fruit business
Fuckin Kaato
Young Norisuke 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
young norisuke is great
Actually, isn't Norisuke technically the Jojo of this part?
His real name is Josuke, in the same way as part 4 Josuke's was written
@uneven tendon, Your Hamon Rank is now level 8 !
but that doesnt make him "technically" the jojo
i think you can read joshu and jobin's names as jojo
I don't think you can for Joshu and Jobin
oh interesting
They only have one Jo in their names
but like, japanese can be read in multiple ways
like how josuke from part 4 counts as a jojo because suke can be read as jo
which was obviously the intent
I don't think that applies to Jobin and Joshu
But I wish it was, because then I could say that Joshu is the best Jojo
He doesn't have the birthmark so he can't be jojo
Honestly it must really suck having to change your name to a guy who had 2 belly buttons
Technically we also don't see the birthmark on part 4 Josuke or Johnny

There is a scene in the anime where Part 4 Josuke’s birthmark shows
That was added in the anime
Oh
You know, it's pretty funny that people used to say that Tooru is a good wholesome boy
And that he was too good for Yasuho
In one of his first scenes he literally comments on how he fingered Yasuho, how's that possible
Tooru was met with the largest wave of hate I've ever seen
I think a lot of it is unwarranted
A guy randomly pops up and reveals he's had vigorous sex with the MC's love interest and then steals his girl
Somebody comes into the story and starts flirting with our boi's love interest
TBF Tooru is a handsome chad
The hate was warranted
*Our love interest

Oh and then messages gappy to tell him he's gonna fuck his gf
That is true, but stuff like calling him a bad character just because he does bad things isn't a good point
Like he's pretty well written
The hate was warranted but he's an entertaining guy now
I think people are also too harsh on his motivations
You have to remember tooru's most significant characteristics back then were being completely unhelpful and trying to steal yasuho back
Not only we don't know what he plans to do with the power he wants to get from the Locacaca, but technically Dio's early motivations were also just to get power
He was barely written at that point in the story
^
He wants money
I wasn't talking about early Tooru, I talk about Tooru currently
Like after WoU was revealed
He's gonna make an immortality business
I think people also like to say too much that Tooru is a pedo
Which isn't fully true, because when he first met her he wasn't sexually interested in her
Yeah
I even argued with a person who said that a few hours ago
Wtf
I guess if you meet someone as a kid and later go on to have a relationship with them makes you a pedo

People like that are dumb and useless
If you groom them yes
He didn't do dat tho
Far as we know
Another thing to consider is that rock humans also don't care about ages or stuff like that
Since they live for like 240 years
yes that literally does
Nope
Then that makes Prince Philip, who recently died, a pedo
He didn't have a reltionship with her when she was a kid
A 30 year old meeting a 3 year old and then dating them when they're 15 makes them a pedo
She wasn't 3 though
Which is essentially what tooru does lol
She was like 9 or 10
He waited till she grew, then he dated her
that isn't any better lol
It's 100000% better
they dated when she was in high school and apparently had sexual interactions
that is pretty bad
Yeah but he wasn't interested in her at that age, he just wanted her to use Paisley Park to get an identity to impersonate
He could have easily kidnapped her in the forest or taken advantage at any point during her growth
Wasn't it when she was in college
no
I am not trying to defend Tooru or anything, I just point out his intentions as far as we know weren't pedo intentions
she says they were in a relationship in high school
But he chose to wait until she appeared to have the same age as him
It's implied they had sexual interactions lol
That doesn't...
Make it better
not even the same age what
And in Japan the age of consent is 13
Not used anywhere
Anyway I'm saying if he was a pedo he'd absolutely kidnap her in the forest
Dat shits still wrong
if he wasn't a pedo they wouldn't have had sex of some kind lol
It is still wrong, I just don't think that grooming is one of Tooru's many crimes
Pedo discussions often derail into semantics and people forget they're attracted to prepubescent kids, he didn't have any romantic/sexual interest in her until she reached the age of consent
And even then he was mostly using her
Which is pretty early in japan, it's 15 or 16 isn't it?
It's 13
liam
Its not
It depends on the region iirc
that's even worse
I think 13 is the minimum age of consent that Japan’s regions can set, but all of them have it higher (I think)
Yeah
I hope we get more info on that in chapter 106
And on Tooru in general
Like I said, Araki will probably pull a Valentine and have his entire backstory and motivations shown while he is in pain
Point is tooru never kidnapped, groomed or showed any intimate interest in a child that got lost in a forest, not a pedo in my book
This fight will last forever
We’ve had his backstory and motivations shown already
But not fully
WoU will never end
The Wonder of U? More like: The Wonder of Rock Insects
Obladi Oblada best villain in Jojo
He was in his (supposed) 30s or 40s when he dated Yasuho in high school and it's implied they had sexual interactions.
This is grooming 
Rock insects are ridiculously cheesy
How many insects can he pull out of his ass
bout 4
Ask Yasuho, she can answer that
Wdym not fully we literally see his birth,and him give that long tangent about wanting to be on top of society

Wait.... Dio Brando is that you!?
Yeah but we also don't know stuff like why he targeted the pear orchard
You can't gauge rock humans' ages the same as ours since they live like 2 centuries
I'm basing it off the birth we see
Wasn't that Dio's original motivation at the start of part 1 lul
In 99, the city he's walking towards has highways and decently sized buildings
That might be a topic for Mamezuku flashback, not tooru
Dio was also technically desiring a minor in part 1 (Poco's sister) and nobody mentions that
Rai is shinderu
Idk what that means
@uneven tendon don't tell jojo twit bout this....
I think josuke will learn about rais past, he’s dead for sure tho
His dad saw the rock insect,we can infer he most likely wanted to keep rais dad quiet about it
rai's backstory gets retconned lo
That’s just his ghost I think
Yeah, but we don't know why Tooru wanted to mess with the pear orchard in the first place
And I think rais backstory got retconned for a reason. He didn’t need more motivation to kill tooru, he had enough without a revenge idea.
We need more bubble spin exposition from rai next chapter
One more for old time's sake
Yes, I feel it’s necessary
And let’s toss in the josefumi and Kira equivalent exchange again, so readers know what happened
''Josuke, your bubbles, they're not only spinning, but they also have a Stand hidden inside them''
''It's called Tusk act 5''
Joshu disassembles the bubble with nkc next chapter
Also, is it possible that Born This Way's wheels represent the Spin?
Kei is also a descendant of Johnny
Ehhhhh
I doubt it
Since kei is dead it would just be a weird thing to bring up
It doesn’t have much importance
Jojolion ends, tooru is defeated... you flip past the end title card and find 5 more pages of rai explaining the bubble spin
I also think we should get an explanation on how Mamezuku learned about the Spin
And after that it's 20 pages of Josuke and Yasuho sex, with him taking off his hat for the first time
What would josukes hair be like
He was hiding a pompadour under there
And shows he retained Josefumi's pompadour, but upgraded
He used the Spin to get cool swirls, similar to Tooru
Another pomp stacked on top of it
Incredible
and it all fits inside his hat
it could
Shame Josefumi's haircut wasn't as good as Kira's
Or Damo's
Or Tooru's
Or Jobin's
Using the infinite spin he is able to compress infinite pompadours inside his hat, he has to keep the hat on for fear of the pompadours rapidly expanding
I like to think he doesn't have any crazy hair
If he has 4 balls, everything is possible
I don’t think we will ever see his real hair, im just gonna assume he’s bald on the top
You guys notice how josuke kinda grows out his hair through the part?
He starts off with a buzzcut
Yea his hair on the sides do get a bit longer
It's a shame Josuke didn't use the Spin to give himself a haircut
Early gappy was pretty funky
A lot of Jojolion designs were weird
Jobin for instance looked completely different
Beta jobin
Jobin looked awful early design
I didn’t like the four scars he had under his eyes lol
He probably would have looked better on a close-up? Still disgusting
You’re not?
It's also funny how Tsurugi started off as a 2 year old and then changed into a 10 year old
Oh yea that was funny
Oh boy, let me see if i can find the panel
I prefer tsurugi to have an active role than be a toddler
I prefer Tsurugi to be the one to beat Tooru
He wants to steal the plant that can save his life
Yes
Yea it’s ugly af
Yeah
Yeah that’s the one
Yea his design does morph a lot lol
Araki forgot about ugly designs, so he gave the characters better designs
I mean, there are still ugly characters
Ojiro looks pretty ugly until ojiro again
The journalist dude that dies instantly
Not everyone can look as good as Poor Tom

