jojolion

[minor ore]

but it would be way better if he was

speed king has barely been utilized either

[elfin tangle]

I do not get this logic. Speed King was utilized more than 90% of Jojolion's stands

He's one of the ONLY none Soft and Wet stands that got a stand rush lmao

[minor ore]

speed king belongs to a guy who's basically the diego of part 8

comparatively it's under used

[runic adder]

speed king gets used a lot, i agree with lis

[elfin tangle]

Well yes if you compare roles all the time then it would in fact "feel underutilized". Jobin is a completely different character from Diego

[runic adder]

jobin has done way more than diego plot wise

diego just introduced some corpse parts

thats about it

and killed wekapipo

[elfin tangle]

Jobin's definitely a cool character, but Jojolion doesn't need him to be alive

He's in a fitting death spot

[runic adder]

idk i just dont want another hot pants situation

[elfin tangle]

Jojo tends to love specific deaths and Jobin fits one of the specific categories

[runic adder]

jobin has so much he can still do

[elfin tangle]

So did many characters and they still died

[runic adder]

thats why im hoping araki did something different, learned from his mistakes

[elfin tangle]

Also, it can't be a Hot Pants situation as Jobin's death is way more acknowledged than Hot Pants

[runic adder]

yes but i mean, jobins death was still anticlimactic

it was a total subversion

[elfin tangle]

Then good, Araki did something you didn't expect.

So yeah, his death would be fine as he had his speech, affected the plot, and did a lot with his stand. He's not even an ally either so he doesn't need a drawn out tragic death.

[runic adder]

the best possible death jobin could have had is transferring the disease from tsurugi to himself

[elfin tangle]

Nah

[junior coral]

yeah

no

[runic adder]

why not

[junior coral]

Best possible death Jobin could have is that he unlocks the ability Speed King Crimson and he is about to kill Josuke on the top of a skyscraper in the middle of the night and he is about to deliver the final blow but he is struck by lightning and he falls off of the building into the black abyss below

[runic adder]

it would accomplish his goal, save his beloved son, and have a meaningful sacrifice

[elfin tangle]

Jobin did a lot of wack shit and even did decisions that would've screwed his family over. Hell, his actions will definitely negatively impact his family. He's a bad dude and karma bit him in the ass

[runic adder]

...and thats why saving tsurugi would redeem himself

what he wants is to ultimately end the curse and let the higashikata family live in peace

[elfin tangle]

He doesn't need redemption, he's displayed as an antagonist for a reason

Jobin's the same guy that was about to kill a defenseless Yasuho just to fuck with Josuke

[rugged turret]

Unexpected dosent always mean good tho

[runic adder]

yes, so kino

[minor ore]

He's not a bad dude, his philosophy on life is just unrealistic and dangerous

[tepid nebula]

^

[runic adder]

no hes definitely a bad dude lol

he has a good goal but bad morals and methods

[junior coral]

He's got good motives but he is definitely a bad guy lol

[tepid nebula]

I wouldn’t say he’s bad he’s more so harsh

[elfin tangle]

But it was good though, it was a perfectly fitting point of his character to end. People just forgot how much he did in this monthly format

"Harsh"

He's a bad dude

[tepid nebula]

Excessively

Meh

[rugged turret]

I guess we just disagree

[elfin tangle]

He's not a good person just because he had a good goal. His morals and actions are fucked up shit

[tepid nebula]

Who said he was good

[elfin tangle]

He's a bad dude

[rugged turret]

His mother kinda did it to him

Wouldn’t say he’s bad

He just learned do what’s best for your family

[runic adder]

hes still bad, regardless of influence

[hard meteor]

I think that was more to do with the fact she found out where he was hiding the new rokakaka and considered her a threat

[rugged turret]

What do you think he’s done that’s bad

[elfin tangle]

Yeah, and? Serial killers and even Kira Yoshikage had a backstory and bad influence

Jobin is still a bad person.

[tepid nebula]

Aight yeah overall he is

But there’s more to it

[runic adder]

killed ojiro and his girlfriend

threatened yasuho

burned norisuke

[tepid nebula]

Yoshikage and Jobin are two completely different levels lmfao

[elfin tangle]

He also tried to kill her earlier on in the story not just the recent chapters with the toilet

[rugged turret]

I don’t think he’s bad tho. And kris was just mentally fucked tbh

[runic adder]

all for the sake of his goal, still bad actions

[minor ore]

And then he dies lmao

[tepid nebula]

Diego is closer to Jobin

in that comparison respect

[rugged turret]

Threatened yasuho because she was stopping what he thought was the only thing to save his father and son

[runic adder]

jobin is closer to valentine than diego imo

[elfin tangle]

Nah, he's definitely a bad person. Jobin may have been influenced but he still ultimately became a bad person.

[hard meteor]

You mean in the dolomite arc,he only knocked her out and decided against killing her to avoid suspicion from norisuke

[tepid nebula]

Still don’t think he’s dead fr

[frozen charm]

Sad

[rugged turret]

I don’t think he’s bad

[elfin tangle]

Except he didn't threaten her. Earlier on in the story, Jobin was straight up about to kill Yasuho just to make Josuke suffer

If that's not fucked up then you're a little blinded

[minor ore]

dude he's dead LMAO

Literally said the weak die and strong survive

[elfin tangle]

Yeah, his morals are twisted

[runic adder]

if we were to compare a fictional character to jobin best, it would be eren jeager from aot
not diego or valentine lol

[tepid nebula]

When?

[minor ore]

he got what he wanted lol

[elfin tangle]

The Dolomite arc

[tepid nebula]

LMFAOOO

When u say it like that

[frozen charm]

Saddest moment in jojolion isn't actually jobin/rai/kei dying it's actually the fact that iwasuke doesn't get to be in the family photo

[runic adder]

damn didnt even keep her alive for her own sake. harsh

[tepid nebula]

Damn that makes him a lame tho

[elfin tangle]

Harsh is an understatement

[tepid nebula]

Didn’t he just incapacitate her doe

[hard meteor]

Yeah

[runic adder]

yea the toilet scene was brutal

[rugged turret]

Do you think that’s just an inconsistency in his character? Cause he’s not like that from majority of what we’ve seen

[elfin tangle]

If you remembered the arc, Jobin was going to kill her purely to make Josuke suffer

[elfin tangle]

No. It's not. Jobin is consistently brutal to anyone that opposes him

[frozen charm]

No

[runic adder]

anyone that infringes on his goals are an enemy to him

[tepid nebula]

Not harsh rather excessively cruel and straight to the point in his dealings ig

[rugged turret]

He killed norisuke but instantly regretted it. Not exactly bad to me. Made a mistake

[elfin tangle]

That's a markings of a terrible person

[elfin tangle]

You can be a terrible person while having a semblance of care for certain people

[tepid nebula]

Better alternative word I could use but can’t think of it

[rugged turret]

Ojiro deserved it

[tepid nebula]

Agreeable

[runic adder]

jobin still cares about his family and especially, mitsuba and tsurugi

he still loves norisuke he just had to build the resolve to kill him

[tepid nebula]

Really? I do not remember that last part but I’ll check on it later then

[elfin tangle]

Plenty of shitty people care about family or certain people. Doesn't mean they're magically heroes now just for having connections

[minor ore]

Hey man he was just tryna make his sugar mommy happy bro

[tepid nebula]

Ojiro woulda made him kill himself and his son

[rugged turret]

He’s not a terrible person. Just selfish if anything

[frozen charm]

Does jobin love iwasuke tho????

[elfin tangle]

Nah. He's a terrible person lmao

[frozen charm]

Please anwser

[minor ore]

This!!!!

[minor ore]

I think so

[rugged turret]

Everyone hates that dog

[runic adder]

HE IS A TERRIBLE PERSON
listen, i am a huge jobin simp and hes a terrible person

[frozen charm]

No

NO

Iwasuke is the best character

[rugged turret]

Smh he’s a simp

[frozen charm]

He has the best character development

[runic adder]

i cant tolerate this iwasuke slander

[tepid nebula]

Agreeable

[elfin tangle]

Jobin has several traits of a bad person and he's an antagonist for a reason. Thank you for having that sense Zyro, because Jobin is a bad person

[rugged turret]

[frozen charm]

Jobin is a bad person

[runic adder]

i think jobin is the best character and all but i agree with the majority of your points

hes not a good person in the slightest

[frozen charm]

If he's willing to kill his father to reach his goals he's a bad person

[rugged turret]

He makes me uncomfortable

[tepid nebula]

Are u calling us stupid : (

[runic adder]

he only cares about his family, and even then he prioritizes his goals for the sake of future generations instead of his father

[elfin tangle]

[runic adder]

how can you be uncomfortable around such a handsome boi

[elfin tangle]

No. Just slightly blind out of fondness for Jobin. Jobin's a funny guy and interesting with a cool stand... But he's not a good person

[minor ore]

Oh man and he instantly regretted it after

What a sad lad

acting on impulses

[frozen charm]

Yea

[runic adder]

it was an impulse that helped him ultimately

[tepid nebula]

I don’t think he is tho

[runic adder]

him crying over norisuke was one of my favorite scenes

so powerful

[elfin tangle]

He literally is

[tepid nebula]

I’d say he’s more gray than bad

[elfin tangle]

Nah

[rugged turret]

His childlike mindset

Summer vacation forever

[minor ore]

yeah

that's exactly it

[elfin tangle]

You can be a bad person while still aligning with moral gray.

[tepid nebula]

Nah I said I don’t think he’s good

[minor ore]

spelled out to us

[elfin tangle]

He's a bad person

[rugged turret]

He built funny

[tepid nebula]

Fair

[minor ore]

I love how his introduction shows him to be so playful. He was even willing to give away his lambo and cut his eyebrow over a fun game, always quoting poems and having a good time

What a nice young man

I hope he doesn't have connections to rock humans

[runic adder]

i wish he still quoted that poet

his character has changed so much

[elfin tangle]

Just showed his true colors I guess

[minor ore]

He went into boss mode

he changed his xbox status to "in the zone"

[hard meteor]

Lol

[rugged turret]

I’m sure such a fun guy would never

[frozen charm]

Yea

Jobin is a good character

[elfin tangle]

For example, if we didn't have that beginning Daiya arc, she'd be seen as this sweet sister that's pretty based with an underused stand

But then we see her true face

Big bruh

[frozen charm]

I actually hope he's alive

When I say jobin dead I'm trolling

[minor ore]

just not a good person 🤪

I keep hearing that so much lately

[runic adder]

hato is like, the only pure higashikata child

[tepid nebula]

He got rocked

[frozen charm]

Ikr

[runic adder]

daiya, joshu, and tsurugi are all fucked up

[tepid nebula]

Pun intended

[frozen charm]

He's probably dead

[hard meteor]

Yeah hato might be the only morally descent higashikata

[runic adder]

nah norisuke is chad

[hard meteor]

He’s a chad but he was hella sus in the beginning

[frozen charm]

No

[tepid nebula]

Who knows maybe we don’t even know what else Hato coulda done off screen

[runic adder]

i consider tsurugi chad as well and a very good person but that would be a matter of debate

[tepid nebula]

Norisuke?

[rugged turret]

Hato was spoiled

[frozen charm]

Iwasuke higashikata

[minor ore]

Is Josuke even a good person? Yeah he wants to save his mom and he cares about people close to him but so does Jobin. Josuke hesitates more and shows actually empathy sometimes but I wouldn't fuck with him

[elfin tangle]

Even then, she's not pure as she never really cared about Josuke or helping him out. Only really doing whatever when forced to. We just never had her as an enemy but she clearly fell into the morally bankrupt Higashikata cycle. She never stands up to Kaato nor tells the truth to her sister ever

[rugged turret]

But maybe that’s why she’s ok

[minor ore]

he would kill me in one shot

[runic adder]

hes the final villain so hes not morally pure

[frozen charm]

No

[runic adder]

yea cuz she had her own life, shes more neutral

[rugged turret]

I don’t think so. Mainly cause Kira wasn’t really good either

[frozen charm]

Iwasuke is the main hero

[tepid nebula]

He coulda just killed that baby that was chasing him in blue lagoon

[kind owl]

@tepid nebula, Your Hamon Rank is now level 11 !

[rugged turret]

And josephumi felt like nobody cared about him anyway. That’s why he cares about holly so much. She was the on one who cared

[tepid nebula]

or the kid

[elfin tangle]

I'm talking about outside of Josuke. She fell into the Higashikata cycle as well

[runic adder]

cycle of what?

[runic adder]

josefumi

[rugged turret]

Idk killing a baby I don’t think many would do that. Like literally crush their head in a door too

[hard meteor]

Ehh i don’t feel like hato was obligated to stand up to kaato,it’s clear she was uncomfortable and just didn’t want to be around her at all

[frozen charm]

When's the last time we've seen iwasuke

[minor ore]

See this is why the "good character, good person" thing gets on my nerves

[tepid nebula]

The villains probably would

[frozen charm]

Yea

[minor ore]

Wasn't Kira not at least a decent person?

[hard meteor]

Kiras in a grey area

[runic adder]

psychologically tortured a man into eating his fingers

[elfin tangle]

The cycle of oddities and weird moral alignments. Hato in general is weird at least

[tepid nebula]

He worked at a hospital so I’d say so

[rugged turret]

Such a sad life

[minor ore]

aren't they all?

[runic adder]

he is grey

[runic adder]

ah i see

[tepid nebula]

and was nice to Yasuho

[frozen charm]

Characters are too complex to be put in one of two categories tbh

[tepid nebula]

But mean to Ojiro

[minor ore]

that's what I'm getting at

[rugged turret]

I can agree

[runic adder]

even josuke isnt 100% pure gentleman jonathan style really

[elfin tangle]

He caught Ojiro nearly drowning an innocent woman

[tepid nebula]

Well it depends on how deep you define good

[frozen charm]

The moral compass is infinite in size

[minor ore]

they have multiple shades, they act differently to different people and situations

[rugged turret]

True but they’re all pure evil

[tepid nebula]

LMFAO yeah true

[minor ore]

their characters aren't just hard bricks that don't react and change

[runic adder]

eggward you're not supposed to break out of character

[frozen charm]

Fuck sorry

Anyways iwasuke good

[rugged turret]

Only cause of his mom I think

[elfin tangle]

It's still crazy to me seeing the Joestar birthmark be spread around so much in Part 7 onward. The entire higashikatas have it I think

[runic adder]

no why would they have it?

[tepid nebula]

Wast he also a ship doctor too

[minor ore]

thanks I'm glad I'm no the only one

[runic adder]

johnny was a separate branch of the family

higashikatas wouldnt have birthmark

[elfin tangle]

Right, I forgot about the full extent of the family and whatever

[frozen charm]

I don't think they do

[tepid nebula]

They did? Yeah I was boutta say so

[frozen charm]

Go back to the part where they were in their swimwear

[rugged turret]

Yeah. I think he was only a doc cause of his mom tho. But I could be wrong

[elfin tangle]

I just hope we see more of Josefumi eventually. Him and Kira were the Jojo protags that got robbed

[tepid nebula]

Might be right idr

[runic adder]

they were so good. i love their chemistry

i do think we will get another flashback to them

[tepid nebula]

Need another flashback arc

[runic adder]

we need to know where the trio photo originated

[rugged turret]

Yeah it’s interesting discussing their depth tho

[tepid nebula]

One at the end of the series where they fight AU Diavolo

[runic adder]

and josefumis birthmark needs to be explained

[tepid nebula]

After they kill him in a brutal near death fight they take the pic

like nothing happened

[frozen charm]

What if josefumis birthmark just a tattoo

[rugged turret]

I think that was retconned

Not sure

[frozen charm]

It might be a josuke hair think

[elfin tangle]

Josefumi's Soft and Wet has a lot of potential that didn't get enough action as it gets phased out for Kira Yoshikage's version of Soft and Wet

[runic adder]

i doubt why

[elfin tangle]

It was never retconned

Just untouched for now

[runic adder]

eh it was not very different from josukes, josefumi just had much better control, at a very fine level

[tepid nebula]

^might he touched on in a flashback

be

[elfin tangle]

I'm pretty sure it is different to some degree. We never see Josefumi exploding his bubbles do we?

[runic adder]

...why would he explode the bubbles??

thats kiras ability?

[frozen charm]

Hold on I've come up with shitty theory: josefumi got the birthmark as a tattoo when he became an adult because he saw it on kira when he saved his life. Kinda like josukes hair origin

[tepid nebula]

better control as how

[elfin tangle]

As I said. "Kira Yoshikage's version of Soft and Wet".

[hard meteor]

Yeah if we get a another flashback we should see more about his family life that could lead to some answers

[frozen charm]

We have to get another flashback

[rugged turret]

Was it shown again?

[elfin tangle]

Josefumi and Josuke's stands have a decent amount of differences even early on as Josuke can explode/pop his bubbles from what I remember

[rugged turret]

Just what I read a while ago

“It could also just be a drawing error or early design (Araki often changes characters’ designs over the course of Jojolion). Kira doesn’t have the birthmark in the same panel, even though we know he has one. The birthmark also isn’t drawn on Josefumi in the subsequent chapters he’s appeared in. “

[frozen charm]

Joshu is real???

[hard meteor]

it could just be inconsistent placement,like with kiras

[rugged turret]

Bad dog

[frozen charm]

Yea he could've just drawn the birthmark on the wrong character

[elfin tangle]

I don't believe that it was just a drawing error and nothing else. As Araki drawing a family member without a birthmark isn't anything new.

[hard meteor]

Nah I don’t mean like that

[frozen charm]

Pucci

Weather

[hard meteor]

I mean like araki just leaves it out on the shoulders sometimes

[frozen charm]

Ok

[elfin tangle]

Pretty sure those had reasons?

[frozen charm]

They did

It was explained

I was just saying there's ways for non family members to get birthmarks

[elfin tangle]

You misunderstand

[frozen charm]

I'm illiterate

Btw

[elfin tangle]

I meant "Araki drawing a family member without a birthmark"

[frozen charm]

Ok

[elfin tangle]

He's done it with Giorno and Josuke

[frozen charm]

And I'm also legally blind

[elfin tangle]

I definitely believe Josefumi having a mark is significant

[frozen charm]

Yees

[elfin tangle]

But maybe not... I hope it is

[frozen charm]

What if iwasuke has the birthmark

[hard meteor]

It probably is

[elfin tangle]

To base so much on Josuke for Josefumi including the birthmark only for it to be a retcon is...

[frozen charm]

Unfunny

[rugged turret]

Classic araki

But I hope ur right

[frozen charm]

What if josefumi used soft and wet to steal the birthmark

And put it on himself

:trol:

[rugged turret]

Why would he do dat

Cause it looks cool

[frozen charm]

I am serious 0.0001% of the time

[rugged turret]

I know

[tepid nebula]

Or maybe it did mean something but he retconned it later

[rugged turret]

[tepid nebula]

Or decided to

Who knows

[winter spade]

Didn’t we see a birthmark on josefumi in the diner too?

Or am I buggin’?

[frozen charm]

What if the birthmark is some construction paper he actually super glued onto himself

[minor ore]

the birthmark exists outside of the calamity

[hard meteor]

Damn you beat me to the joke 😔

[frozen charm]

The birthmark exists outside of this world

[rugged turret]

Yeah it was there

[runic adder]

i meant the base version of soft and wet that josuke inherited. josuke didnt awaken explosive spin for a while

[winter spade]

Showing the birthmark in one photo is one thing, but showing it again in the diner has to mean something right?

But arak could always retcon it so idk

[runic adder]

you cant just "forget" to add a birthmark onto a character, josefumi had the birthmark intentionally

[elfin tangle]

What? I'm pretty sure that was an ability Josuke gets fairly early on in Jojolion. Like one of the earliest abilities Josuke has

[hard meteor]

Which ability

The explosive spin?

[frozen charm]

Soft or wet

[runic adder]

wasnt the explosive spin first used in urban guerilla?

i guess i need to reread jjl

[minor ore]

I am the shit post maestro

[runic adder]

im really out of touch with jjl lol

[hard meteor]

I think that was just primary bomb

[runic adder]

yea thats what i mean by explosive spin

sorry my brains foggy

but yea, i mean primary bomb

sorry lis, you're right explosive spin is technically introduces in chapter 1 lol

with the invisible bubble

[runic adder]

soft

[frozen charm]

Wet is a more popular option

However

They should make an iwasuke ova

[runic adder]

yes they should

smh shouldve been announced instead of stone ocean

[rocky charm]

Someone posted a vid the other day which I was a bit skeptical of, but I think they're right

Have we ever seen the birthmark on Johnny, Holly, or Kira?

[runic adder]

we couldnt see it on johnny because of his shoulders always being covered

[hard meteor]

No for Johnny

[runic adder]

im like 90% sure ive seen it on kira

[hard meteor]

We saw it on Kira once

And for holly

[frozen charm]

We never saw it on johnny or any of his family

[hard meteor]

She isn’t shown with it

[rocky charm]

Tbf there are a lot of shots where his onesie slips a fair way down his shoulder

[frozen charm]

Nicholas joestar birthmark reveal???

[rocky charm]

It's possible that the birthmark isn't actually a Joestar thing in SBRverse, like that youtuber said

[frozen charm]

It's a rock disease thing

[runic adder]

then who would even have it?

[frozen charm]

Jkjk

[rocky charm]

Maybe the mark comes exclusively from Jousefumi and Kei got it through the same means Weather did

[frozen charm]

No

That's a reach

[runic adder]

that would be interesting, i doubt araki planned that far ahead by covering johnny up

[hard meteor]

Yeaaah nah I don’t buy it

[rocky charm]

But we've seen a good amount of Kira and Johnny's left shoulders and NEVER a birthmark

[winter spade]

Kira had a birthmark since the beginning of the part

[runic adder]

we dont really see kira far enough for a birthmark

[hard meteor]

He had it one panel

[runic adder]

oh haha disproven by facts and logic

[hard meteor]

All the other times his shoulder is visible it isn’t there

[rocky charm]

Oh OK then

[hard meteor]

I’ve checked

[winter spade]

The birthmark shifts around on the shoulder when araki is drawing his characters

[rocky charm]

This shit's weird.

[winter spade]

Sometimes it’s visible from in front, sometimes only from the top down

[rocky charm]

And it mostly stems from the fact that Araki doesn't want to draw it

[winter spade]

Araki draws what he wants dammit

[hard meteor]

I feel like this is just an araki thing

[frozen charm]

Joshu has a birthmark

[rocky charm]

The moment he introduced the mark he had every Jojo start covering up their shoulders so he could forget about it

[hard meteor]

Where he just doesn’t feel drawing it

[runic adder]

it would be really weird for josefumi to just randomly have a birthmark, it seems like it was definitely a tease for josefumi being a jojo

[rocky charm]

But now the outfits that "cover their shoulders" have very loose necks which SHOULD expose the birthmark

[runic adder]

birthmark placement is very erratic

[rocky charm]

So we see him not draw them a whole bunch

[frozen charm]

Top 10 things araki doesn't like drawing
10. Avdol
Ok we're gonna skip a few
3. Birthmark
2. Nipples

1. mystery man

[runic adder]

yes

he also really doesnt like drawing mystery man

[hard meteor]

Truuuue

[frozen charm]

I made a quick edit to my message

[kind owl]

@frozen charm, Your Hamon Rank is now level 24 !

[rocky charm]

He doesn't like drawing Jojolion that's why there was a hiatus

[winter spade]

Kei also has the birthmark

[runic adder]

ok so i have a question about this

[hard meteor]

Idk I feel we’re not gonna get a clear answer as to what’s up with these birthmarks,unless araki reveals josefumi is tied to the joestars in another way it’ll always be a weird mystery

[runic adder]

is this just one spinning thread that spins around the whole bubble at high speed?

[winter spade]

The bubble is the thread

[runic adder]

yes thats what im asking

[winter spade]

It’s spinning so fast it looks like a bubble

[runic adder]

so it is just the singular thread

ok good

[winter spade]

Yeah

[runic adder]

then how tf is this possible

if its one thread it wouldnt be a split bubble

[winter spade]

True

Araki

That’s why

[rocky charm]

Uuhhhhh

[hard meteor]

Araki

[frozen charm]

They don't exist in this world

[hard meteor]

Don’t question

it

[rocky charm]

There are some that are bubbles and some that are cables

[frozen charm]

Duh.

[runic adder]

[winter spade]

He wanted a representation of the two sides of josuke in his stand ability so he drew that along with the split eyes and tongue

[runic adder]

the split tongue and eyes make sense

but he didnt have to put a split bubble

[winter spade]

He didn’t

But he did

[runic adder]

i feel like araki would have planned for josuke to have the spin right?

[frozen charm]

Don't forget split balls

[runic adder]

nah double the balls for some reason

not split

[frozen charm]

Split

[runic adder]

split penis

[rocky charm]

It would be hard to notice split testes

[frozen charm]

Ok

The TRUE question is who's cock does josuke have

Kiras or josefumis

[rocky charm]

Joshu's

[hard meteor]

Josefumis I think

Kiras body still had a dick

[runic adder]

joshu uses nkc to fuse his cock onto josuke to troll yasuho

[frozen charm]

Damn

[hard meteor]

Only the balls were missing

[frozen charm]

5 balls

[rocky charm]

Joshu fuses his balls to Josuke and Yasuho wonders why he now has SIX

[runic adder]

joshu just keeps on winning

[minor ore]

Which character are the Requiem theories about? I haven’t heard any

[runic adder]

gappy

[frozen charm]

They're about me

And they do suck

[runic adder]

the theory is that josuke will get king crimson
for no other reason than to fit the higashikata "king" stand motif

[frozen charm]

"new rokakaka gives Requiem"

[runic adder]

locacaca 6251 gives requiem actually

[winter spade]

Joshu will turn yasuho into a bunch of human lego pieces to save her from the airplane door confirmed

[minor ore]

Absorbing more corpse parts wouldn’t do it cuz we already saw people with multiple parts right?

[winter spade]

Honestly tho that’s how I see her not dying from this next calamity

[runic adder]

its possible, the plane door will still hit her

i think whats more likely is joshu used nkc on the door itself

that way its smaller pieces

[winter spade]

True

Tho idk how fast NKC actually is

I don’t think it’s SP speed so he’s gonna need to react fast

[minor ore]

It seems like the possibility of people gaining Requiem does exist in the new canon since Valentine getting Love Train was a similar situation to how Kira got Bites the Dust I think

[runic adder]

yasuho gets hit by the plane door and two seconds later joshu decides to punch it

[runic adder]

neither bites the dust nor love train was requiem

and they are two different situations

one was the corpse, the other was stand arrow

[winter spade]

Love train was tied specifically to Lucy steel embodying the corpse fully

[minor ore]

I know that, but they are similar since both involve interacting with the “Stand giver” a second time

[winter spade]

Sorta

I guess

[hard meteor]

Kinda

Bit of a reach tho

[runic adder]

like jonjon said, the corpse was fully immersed in this world by lucy, its why valentine got love train

[minor ore]

Oh I thought Valentine had taken her corpse part

[rugged pilot]

Ok so I just started Jojolion and I got to the part where Johnny is trying to save Rina and George

[runic adder]

good part

any questions?

[rugged pilot]

Did he kill himself or did the corpse kill him

[winter spade]

The autumn leaves stand killed him

[hard meteor]

He killed himself

[rugged pilot]

What

[hard meteor]

And the leaves finished him off

[winter spade]

Touched the leaves, moved the Boulder above himself

[rugged pilot]

With the Boulder?

[runic adder]

he got shot by tusk and he fell onto the leaves

[rugged pilot]

Ah I see

[runic adder]

the boulder was a rock human but thats a different topic

anyways, jojolion only gets better from johnny flashback imo

[rugged pilot]

And now Yasuho is licking her elbow lmao

[runic adder]

lol

[minor ore]

Isn’t it like Kira got something close to Requiem but not quite, since the two Requiem stands happened when the stand gets pierced, but with Kira it was the user that is pierced. And the ability he got was also the answer to his problem like with Requiem

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

[frozen charm]

Joshu requiem

[runic adder]

yea basically, it was close

like a prototype for requiem almost

[winter spade]

Same effect in storytelling terms

Villains gets big powerup before final fight

Except with requiem it’s more of the goal itself, rather than a means to a goal

[runic adder]

i didnt think of it like that before, thats interesting

[minor ore]

Do we know if Araki already had the Requiem idea by part 4 and Bites the Dust was meant as a lesser version, or maybe he didn’t come up with Requiem yet and would have made Killer Queen Requiem be a thing if he could go back

Does what I just said make sense

[winter spade]

He didn’t come up with requiem until golden wind

It didn’t even really present itself until halfway through the part too

[runic adder]

he only came up with requiem when the requiem arrow appears

but fr, araki only came up with requiem at the last minute storyboarding because he couldnt figure out a way to beat king crimson

thats just what i think

[minor ore]

Is that real

Oh okay

[runic adder]

not confirmed, in any way

[minor ore]

But if Bites the Dust was deliberate foreshadowing it would make sense right

[winter spade]

It definitely could’ve given him ideas of how to expand on the arrows further

[minor ore]

Like it makes you question how many times can you shoot yourself and still get more power or what happens if you do shoot your stand instead of yourself

I’m pretty sure he doesn’t actually write as he goes since he already knew stuff like the story being multigenerational

And in part 4 Jotaro questions where Enya got the arrows

[winter spade]

He’s admitted to doing so in part 4 and 5

The Kira escape where he uses salon Cinderella to change his face?

Wasn’t planned beforehand

[minor ore]

Yeah I believe he still can add in things way later

But I at least think he had a lot of part 5 in his head during part 4 and made links to it

[winter spade]

He’s definitely got an outline for what he wants in a part’s story but when he’s on that weekly release he’s got to focus on sequential storytelling week to week

Probably did tbh

[frozen charm]

Nigeria

[rugged turret]

Nigerian

[minor ore]

Jojo part 9 Nigerian Jojo

[rugged turret]

Joel joestar

[kind owl]

@rugged turret, Your Hamon Rank is now level 17 !

[opaque grotto]

Wonder of u

[minor ore]

Javier Joestarino

[winter spade]

Jonah Joestar

[opaque grotto]

Wou equal d4c confirmed

[frozen charm]

Joshu > Wonder of U = love train

[cunning vapor]

TOORU > UR FAV VERSE 😹

[white pasture]

Real

[minor ore]

Lmao

[lost slate]

joshu>>>tooru though

[foggy gulch]

^

[minor ore]

What's the pronouncation of Jojolion?

[tepid nebula]

Jojo lee uhn

[minor ore]

Jojo-lion?

Jojo-lie-ion?

[foggy gulch]

jojoleun

[minor ore]

Oohh

Thanks

I thought Rokakakas were dragon fruits so I got confused that my ugliness didn’t disappear after I ate a dragon fruit.

Gappy be lookin' hot doe 😳

live action jojolion

Ricardo Higashikata

[hexed silo]

new chapter is this month right

or was it this month that is skipping

[rugged turret]

This month is correct

[minor ore]

I want chapter 106

14 more days

Sad

[brittle lodge]

Milagro Man should've been Money For Nothing IIBH

[minor ore]

Lol

[minor ore]

just got leaked

check manganelo

It’s not there

[sharp raptor]

I finally caught up to jojolion again, honestly jojos is such a roller coaster. Part 1-5 made me a homosexual, part 6 turned me back to a heterosexual, part 7 then made me a homosexual and now part 8 has turned me back into a heterosexual

This shits crazy

[pastel torrent]

yes

Jobin

[faint gust]

in conclusion: jojo makes you bi

[inland oyster]

Sorta

[minor ore]

Why not be bi and get the best of both worlds?

[minor ore]

Fun fact

Wonder of U isn't even an Elvis song

Ray Peterson was the first released version of it

Really?

Mhm

[frozen charm]

Yea

Ray gave elvis permission to make a cover of the song

[minor ore]

I ran from stone ocean. It's chill here

I have a feeling we might have a major character death in the upcoming chapter
And I hope it's not yasuho

I dunno. I want Josuke and Yasuho to have their happy ever after

[hard meteor]

It won’t be yasuho

[minor ore]

Wonder of u is an elvis Presley song. I looked it up

[minor ore]

Yeaah

It’s def an Elvis reference

cover more popular

I guess it's like having a chocolate biscuit with a cream filling being a reference to an Oreo rather than a Hydrox

[junior coral]

a what

[primal dagger]

Cookies that are just like Oreos but didn't become as popular and came out before Oreos

[minor ore]

Oreo directly ripped off Hydrox because the makers were brothers

that's the main difference between the metaphors because Elvis' cover was consented

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 8 !

[junior coral]

We know that Wonder of U is specifically a reference to Elvis though because we see Tooru listening to that song on his phone

[minor ore]

fair

[runic adder]

cant wait for crazy train ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[junior coral]

Wonder of U: Crazy Train

Esketit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[runic adder]

tooru steals the corpse

[junior coral]

yoooo

[runic adder]

i like large fries>pizza mozzarella

[near grail]

hard one

[runic adder]

imagine if the reason gappy remembers the man in the wall eyes is cuz the mystery man taught him the large fries song

i think im on to something big with my constant theorizing

[hard meteor]

Fr

[minor ore]

I wish Mystery man was clarified

[frozen charm]

What if jobin hates large fries but not fried chicken

[minor ore]

But it's likely an early Damo

[rugged turret]

We did see jobin with fried chicken

Hmm

[runic adder]

the difference just feels too drastic to be damo

also, i was looking through a jjl theory page and stumbled across this again

why did the higashikatas have a prison in their basement again?

im pretty sure it was supposed to be yotsuyas room but that doesnt add up at all with the sailor uniform

[minor ore]

TBH I WANT it to be a different guy too

[runic adder]

because it is a different guy, its definitely not a damo retcon

[hard meteor]

^^

[hard meteor]

And yeah everything about this room is really weird

Like it’s implied Kira was staying there for a time but then it turns out to be yotsuyus room

But then it’s also supposed to be a prison?

[runic adder]

the sexy posters, but also childlike dolls, but also robots? and a toilet?

and the obviously barebones bed

[minor ore]

Yotsuya has taste tho NGL

[runic adder]

why tf would yotsuya live like that

[hard meteor]

I have no idea

[minor ore]

I think it was meant to be a temporary stay

so he didn't bother making it as comfortable as he could

[hard meteor]

“You where there before in that room”

[runic adder]

possibly

doesnt make sense with the sailor outfit tho

[runic adder]

who is he saying that to

[hard meteor]

Josuke

Really weird

I guess he’s trying to say Kira was there

[runic adder]

i see

[hard meteor]

But then yotsuyu was also there...

[runic adder]

why does tsurugi know so much in early jjl lol

oh also found this plothole

this isnt a big deal, but an interesting tidbit

[hard meteor]

Yeah

Do you have a link to the theory page

[runic adder]

https://fauzhee10069.tumblr.com/post/643843369737551872/stranger-things-title-sequence-is-playing-in-the

this person makes a lot of great jjl analysis

[hard meteor]

Ah thanks

I’ve seen a lot of their theory’s

[runic adder]

they use a bit of explicit language tho so idk if i can post this

[runic adder]

yea a lot of them make some sense

and ofc it also exposes a lot of interesting plotholes as well

[minor ore]

That blog is rly good

[hard meteor]

ye,it’s got a lot of the inconsistencies and some neat theory’s listed

[runic adder]

tbf, i feel like out of these inconsistencies, a few of them can be answered in the future

as well as some of them just being like, average jojo mistakes
Araki just isnt the best at writing timelines lol

[minor ore]

Definitely

[hard meteor]

Oh for sure lmao

[runic adder]

this part could possibly be explained?

it doesnt make sense that kira would have rokakaka trees tho

[hard meteor]

Right

We see that’s not true

[runic adder]

he didnt know about them until the events of vitamin c, and why would he graft branches if he had trees

[hard meteor]

But tbh karera is a sketchy character

It’s possible this could be intentional

[runic adder]

yea karera doesnt really know about their operation

[hard meteor]

Shes been shown to lie multiple times in the arc

[runic adder]

how she knows about the rokakaka or josefumis grafting is crazy

[runic adder]

it could just be, and i hate to say it, araki forgot moments

but like, vitamin c is way too close to this arc

for araki to have just been writing the details out on a whim

and change them all

[hard meteor]

Right

Doesn’t add up

[runic adder]

cuz why would karera lie? she has a crush on josefumi, and shes not affiliated with rock humans

[hard meteor]

That’s true

[runic adder]

unless shes a hidden child of kaato(lmao) or some shit she has nothing to hide from josefumi(who she presumed josuke was)

[hard meteor]

But at the end of her chapter she implies she has other motives that don’t involve josefumi

[runic adder]

really?

[hard meteor]

Yeah

[runic adder]

interesting

[hard meteor]

Gimme a minute I need to find the panel

[runic adder]

ye ye cool

[hard meteor]

Her wording stuck out to me

[minor ore]

Karera deserves to find a BF

Karera x Joshu lol

[runic adder]

oh damn forgot about that

[hard meteor]

She implies she has a deeper understanding of how equivalent exchange works and the she wants to “break away from the world” using it

[runic adder]

that is sketchy af

[hard meteor]

Yeah I know

[runic adder]

she also literally said she wants the rokakaka

to break away from the world? the entire world?

it would be one thing for her to say morioh and all

we definitely need to see karera more, something must have happened to her before that

[minor ore]

Karera, Kaato and Mystery Man

[hard meteor]

yeah I got a feeling she’ll come back soon to explain this

We def need to know more about her motives

[minor ore]

The Trifecta of "where did you go"

[runic adder]

yea i thought she was just some innocent fangirl of josefumi until that panel lmao

[tepid nebula]

U forgot iced out baby

[runic adder]

damn im so glad im here in time before jjl ends, its so fun theorizing

[hard meteor]

O true the baby

[minor ore]

I forgot this character lol 😂

[runic adder]

i think a lot of the mysteries surrounding holy could be wrapped up with her stand

if its like, an information gathering stand similar to paisley park

[runic adder]

Dababy less goo

[minor ore]

Back to this chat now that SO is hell

[runic adder]

Good move

[minor ore]

True

Yo am I the only one who likes Toorus colored outfit??

[runic adder]

I like it

I don’t get the hate for it

[hard meteor]

I don’t like that much

but i guess it’s not true worst thing ever

And colored wou will probably look ok since we don’t see the full body in the newer chapters

[runic adder]

It’s gold, so I’m happy with that

[minor ore]

The pants r a little much but it’s still rly good

I think the gold is fitting for tooru

[hard meteor]

Unrelated but I was thinking back to how this line implies jjl from vitamin c all the way to now would be in 2012 and how wonky that is timeline wise

But then I remembered tsurugis birth year was 2002

And he recently turned 10 in the story

So..

Could this actually be accurate?

[junior coral]

Me and Tsurugi are around the same age

weird

(in real time)

[runic adder]

Earthquake took place only a few days before jjl events iirc

And so far it’s only been a few months since jjl beginning

So i don’t think it was 6 months

[runic adder]

GG is 10 years old confirmed

📸 caught in 4k

[junior coral]

nooooo

[runic adder]

2012 already? That would be crazy

And also kinda fuck with the timeline

Having to remember specific years is hard enough for me already

[hard meteor]

Yeah it doesn’t feel like 6 months passed in universe

[runic adder]

Having to remember specific months or dates would be torture

[hard meteor]

This might just be another timeline inconsistency after all but I wonder what that means for tsurugi

[runic adder]

Well tsurugi is still 10

This is confirmed by his(very sad) line about wanting to live until 11

[junior coral]

Part 8 is so good

[teal brook]

most indubitably 🧐

[rugged turret]

Agreed my highly intellectual comrade

[runic adder]

I concur

[frozen charm]

Aphex triplet is the main villain

[runic adder]

iwasuke was a fusion of aphex triplet and a random dog

[golden latch]

The timeline is always fucked in Jojo

Like I still refuse to accept that Golden Wind took place in 1 week

[runic adder]

yea that was so stupid

[rocky charm]

Honestly GW taking place so quickly is a good decision when you think about it

It gives an excuse to only have 1 or 2 people in each fight.

By having them be exhausted from the previous fight/seriously injured, there's now a good reason for them to sit in the turtle until it's over.

[runic adder]

but they go through SO MANY fights, how are they not incredibly exhausted by the end of it

[frozen charm]

Giorno can heal

And they're extremely tough

[winter spade]

They are mafiosos for a reason

[frozen charm]

They're mafiosus

[junior coral]

*mafiosi

[muted rock]

so u guys know how when it showed the family tree of joestars joseph, suzie q, and holly were in jojolion universe because in the main timeline they did not die. Am I right when i assume that part 8 and 7 take place before the ending of part 6?

[kind owl]

@muted rock, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

[muted rock]

like when jolyne isnt named jolyne and shit like that.<that ending

[hard meteor]

No

[rocky charm]

No, this is a separate universe

Separate laws of reality, too

[hard meteor]

Part 7 and 8 are in a different continuity/universe

[rocky charm]

There is a "similar" Joestar family with parallels, but many things are different

[hard meteor]

They are not connected to the events of part 6

[muted rock]

its related to the parts previous to 7 tho right? just like in the original, the johnny or jonathan died and so did the dio

[surreal island]

Where do you guys read jjl now

[rocky charm]

For instance, Johnny marries Rina, a Japanese woman, instead of Erina

[hard meteor]

The only thing they share are names and some occasional callbacks

[rocky charm]

There are parallels and similarities, but the actual stories are separate

[muted rock]

i see

[rocky charm]

Unless there's some big plot twist down the line

[muted rock]

so its just araki referencing for fun, nothing deeper than that right?

[rocky charm]

But that's unlikely

Yes.

[hard meteor]

No those deaths were completely different in context of the stories

[rocky charm]

Especially minor references, like the Urvdol in SBR

Just some random who looks like Avdol

[muted rock]

oh yea okay hes just referencing for fun then

[surreal island]

Where do y’all read jjl now

[grim mortar]

when is part 8 gonna end

[muted rock]

i stopped around chapter 40

[rocky charm]

I read on mangasee123

[hard meteor]

Correct he just references minor things from the past parts

[surreal island]

Thanks

[muted rock]

jojolion is still going?

like is it releasing weekly or monthly?

[winter spade]

I read on mangadex but it’s down rn

Monthly

[rocky charm]

Somewhere from a few months from now to a few years

[muted rock]

i see

[rocky charm]

Monthly releases with occasional hiatus

We didn't get an March chapter

[muted rock]

damn tuff

[surreal island]

Is mangasee caught up?

[rocky charm]

Yes

[muted rock]

im prolly gonna start reading jojolion religiously like the other parts when its completely finished

[winter spade]

Araki makes the individual chapters longer and with more impressive spreads in return for the longer release schedule

So I don’t think it’s a downside he takes his time

Does mean hiatus’s hurt more tho

[muted rock]

boruto and dbs release monthly and their chapters are literally 20 pages long its bullshit and aot releases monthly and their chapters are looooooooooooooooonggg

[rocky charm]

Ueno-san wa Bukiyou has no consistent release schedule AND chapters are like 10 pages long

[minor ore]

manganelo

[sudden nymph]

Imagine not liking Joshu he is literally a god tier character

[hard meteor]

💯

Let em know

[leaden shoal]

can i say spoilers here or nah

[hard meteor]

yeah you can talk about spoilers here

[summer nova]

no spoile r pls im in saeson 1 🙂

[runic adder]

I’m on episode one I hope nothing happens to Danny

[rocky charm]

Episode 1 of PB or SBR?

[sudden nymph]

Yes but if you are in let’s say the golden wind channel you can’t talk about future parts

[leaden shoal]

ah ok

[late lagoon]

Is it possible for Bae Nijimura to come back?

Because Jobin obviously is going to make a return so then they can make Kei Mamezuku

[runic adder]

Kei is like, pretty much confirmed a ghost

She touched josuke was a ghost

Just like rai talked to josuke as a ghost

[rocky charm]

So if this "karmic retribution" thing is true, Kei died instantly when she pursued the Doctor, like the child murderer and Joubin

Does this mean Kei is a horrible person who's done awful things?

Oh and the reporter, too

[winter spade]

She did directly attack the head doctor

I think the karma thing might only apply to situations the head doctor himself isn’t in

[runic adder]

Karmic retribution shouldn’t have been introduced IMO, it just raises too many questions and doesn’t add up

[winter spade]

But if you directly attack him, you’re the highest on the list

[rocky charm]

It was also dropped basically immediately lol

[minor ore]

I can’t wait to find out what will happen in the next chapter

[rocky charm]

It existed for like 6 pages

[minor ore]

wasn't it just Rai theorizing

[winter spade]

It’s also made clear that calamities are unavoidable anyway regardless of karma so whatever

[rocky charm]

Yeah, but it's Jojo

[winter spade]

^

[runic adder]

It was a cool idea but it contradicted most of what we had already seen and all

[rocky charm]

Every time a main character theorizes what a Stand does, it's actually the author telling us the intricacies of its powers

[winter spade]

Araki wouldn’t have a character speculate on an ability if it wasn’t word of god or intentionally a misdirect

WoU is wierd because the nature of the ability itself is the gotcha, not the effects of the stand

[late lagoon]

They should’ve taken Joshu and not Rai😔

[winter spade]

Since the effect is just random bad luck and extreme damage taken

[minor ore]

Wasn't Polnareff wrong about Hanged Man for the longest time until Kakyoin finally told him

[rocky charm]

I suppose so

[winter spade]

Yes but Kakyoin told him and us about the true ability

Polnareff (and the audience) was thinking about the ability wrong

[runic adder]

Kakyoin also said there wasn’t a mirror world, checkmate kakyoin

[summer nova]

rai was just hypothesizing guys

[minor ore]

That's what I'm saying

[winter spade]

Kakyoin was talking about the specific effects of the stand, since how could it attack from a mirror world

[minor ore]

Yeah

[minor ore]

and so was Rai

[winter spade]

Man in the mirror doesn’t even do that it drags people in first

If the stand attacked from the mirror it would literally be invincible

[rocky charm]

But we don't get a scene of Rain being told "no it has nothing to do with karma it only has to do with how much plot armor you have"

[winter spade]

From an in universe level and on a writing level, every stand has some sort of drawback

[rocky charm]

GER

[winter spade]

until wonder of u that is

[minor ore]

look how wrong he is

[winter spade]

In that specific scene yes

[winter spade]

GER is limited by the fact giorno had to get the arrow first and the fight was over when he did that

Wonder of U is just naturally this strong

Which is completely bonkers

[rocky charm]

Plot twist: Rai is right. Tooru is just big brain Sherlock Holmes and planned out every single "collision" that affected our protagonists

[winter spade]

It’s all an act

Imagine tho

[rocky charm]

Wonder of U's only ability is looking like an old man

[minor ore]

“Soft and wet plunder”

[winter spade]

That would be the fucking worst reveal possible

[rocky charm]

It's like Khnum except way worse

[winter spade]

So araki must do it

[rocky charm]

And Tooru doesn't need Thoth because he's too smart for it

[winter spade]

He’s just too big brain

The teddy bear is the true user

Chat pursued WoU and got hit by a calamity

Chat dead

[minor ore]

Teddy bear pilots Tooru

[runic adder]

and tsurugis berserk stand is creating illusions of all the calamities

[minor ore]

Shut the fuck up

do you know how right you could be

[runic adder]

im not right at all lol

[rocky charm]

That's why the child caught in the heavy gate was "seriously harmed" but only got "minor injuries"

[minor ore]

no cause remember that scene with Tsurugi and the baby

[runic adder]

if that was actually the case i would drop jjl like it was boiling hot

[rocky charm]

Anyway, real talk

[runic adder]

that was definitely just hyperbole from the parents

because they didnt like tsurugi

[rocky charm]

If Tsurugi used Paper Moon King to make a whole bunch of things look like the Head Doctor

[runic adder]

but also, i dont want to think about the possibility of it all being tsurugi after all

[rocky charm]

Would "pursuing" any of those make you be hit by Calamity?

[runic adder]

well, its an illusion

why would it be the trigger for wou

the head doctors that kept showing up around mitsuba wasnt an illusion tho, mitsuba got hit by calamities

[rocky charm]

Because you think you're pursuing WoU, and intent does count sometimes

[runic adder]

thats true....

[winter spade]

The actual stand seems to use illusions too

[minor ore]

this panel really pisses me off

cause you just know

[runic adder]

yea, with all the different wou's in the sky and stuff

[minor ore]

Damn I forgot that

[winter spade]

So it definitely could be a global pursue what you think is the wonder of u or the head doctor and calamity

[runic adder]

just know what

[minor ore]

you just... know

[winter spade]

I just really hope norisuke isn’t dead

[runic adder]

what i dont understand is how those doctors at the assembly survived going to meet satoru akefu live lol

[runic adder]

i just dont know anything, i dont get why tsurugi activated pmk

i think norisukes alive

[winter spade]

Because you need to be attempting to uncover his identity or pursue the doctor himself

Or it’s because he specifically exempted those doctors from calamities

[minor ore]

You just know that it's gonna be a huge reveal that we won't see until like 10 chapters from now

[winter spade]

Because we see with josuke he can call the aggressive calamities off

[minor ore]

I’m pretty sure Jobin didn’t kill him

[runic adder]

thats true, he can deactivate calamities for certain people

[winter spade]

I hope not

[runic adder]

like yasuho with the eye contact

[winter spade]

The attack didn’t seem fatal

[runic adder]

its gonna be so kino

[hard meteor]

Idk about that

I mean he blew off one his hands

[runic adder]

jobin def didnt kill norisuke. everyone in this arc has died very quickly and without a second thought. norisuke has been baited to us for 23 chapters

[hard meteor]

And eft him in a bodybag for 2 hours with no treatment

[winter spade]

No the speed king attack on norisuke

[runic adder]

yknow who else got their hand torn off?

joseph

jk jk

[elder narwhal]

I still dont get this panel

[hard meteor]

I’m afraid Norisuke just doesn’t have Joseph level plot armor 😔

[runic adder]

nobody does tbh

[rocky charm]

I suppose there's a difference between "pursuit" and just "approaching"??? Because he specifically asks the reporter "are you pursuing me" and the reporter says "yes".
But then Mitsuba, who didn't even approach him, she just said "wait why TF is he here" got hit so hard.
This shit confusing

[runic adder]

we dont know what anything about that flashforward means

[runic adder]

yes definitely

[hard meteor]

If he’s still alive he doesn’t have much time left

[elder narwhal]

Jobin is 100% dead

[runic adder]

we dont even know wtf is going on in the flashforward as of yet

they are all calm, tsurugi is fine, joshu has his arm

[rocky charm]

Joubin is 98% dead

[runic adder]

jobin and mitsuba arent there

[rocky charm]

I ain't seen no Soul ride

*rise

He could still survive

[runic adder]

kak also didnt get a soul rise

[minor ore]

we don't need to see that shit this is Jojolion

[runic adder]

dude did you see kei and rai?

[elder narwhal]

I doubt be is gonna have a soul rise as he was kinda a villian and villians never have soul rises

[rocky charm]

Yeah that's because Kakyoin survived/s

[hard meteor]

Almost no one in sbr got a soul ride

Besides gyro

[minor ore]

ghost hands yeah

[rocky charm]

Gyro got a Soul ride?

Sounds like fun

Is that when you have the Goddess of Victory on your saddle?

[runic adder]

plot twist: the flashforward is actually exactly like the events of made in heaven
tooru will evolve his stand to gain made in heaven, accelerate very far, tsurugi stops him
then everyone who died(even joshu ) will be revived without any memories, that would explain why everyones nonchalant

[runic adder]

DaGappy

[elder narwhal]

Dagappy

[rocky charm]

And then Joubin kills Norisuke again anyway

[runic adder]

yes

[hard meteor]

[runic adder]

who says ojiro cant still happen

[minor ore]

Well there was Doppio his soul rise

[elder narwhal]

Guys josukes bubble wont hit tooru until chapter 119

[runic adder]

cant wait

[hard meteor]

Don’t jinx it

[runic adder]

gonna be epic when the bubble finally hits tooru in 2025

[elder narwhal]

He was an exception

[minor ore]

Oh

[runic adder]

after josuke fends off the 200 more rock insects inside wonder of u's coat

[rocky charm]

13 chapter flashback was already confirmed in Araki's interview earlier today

[runic adder]

wait what

[rocky charm]

I'm joking

[runic adder]

forgot the interview was out today

[rocky charm]

I hope.

[runic adder]

ik ur joking but does anyone have an interview link?

[hard meteor]

Oh yeah araki was doing an interview today

[runic adder]

cuz he might talk about jjl idk

[rocky charm]

Yeah, ,I couldn't find one earlier

[elder narwhal]

The araki award started today

U can send in manga

And araki will rate it

And shounen jump will give it the araki award

[rocky charm]

Does it have to be my manga

Or can I send in someone else's

[elder narwhal]

Im not sure

[runic adder]

why shonen jump

[minor ore]

...?

[rocky charm]

What happens if I send in Jojo

[runic adder]

araki isnt really affiliated with them anymore right

[runic adder]

...?

[elder narwhal]

https://twitter.com/Kewl0210/status/1378906293264601088?s=19

Kewl0210 (@Kewl0210)

Apparently Ultra Jump is establishing an "Araki Hirohiko Manga Award" in which you can submit a manga to be judged by Araki. You can submit something for the next almost-5 months. https://t.co/VnlqUQg6oT

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Twitter · Apr 5, 2021, 3:04 AM

Ultra jump*

[minor ore]

where can I find this interview

[runic adder]

oh that is really interesting