#jojolion

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minor ore
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My

rugged turret
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Yup

elfin tangle
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I mean, it was a fitting Part 8 stand. While Walking Heart is so barebones that it felt like a Part 3 stand

fringe ravine
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Nut King Call leaves itself open to comparisons to Sticky Fingers, except Sticky Fingers is more versatile

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and cool, tbh

runic adder
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definitely. heels was a cool feature tho but just extending in general is way better

near cedar
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WoU has drip

fringe ravine
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Awaking III Leaves is amazing though, probably my most favorite Higashikata Stand

elfin tangle
runic adder
elfin tangle
runic adder
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wait who has awaking 3 leaves

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i thought i saw every higashikata stand

fringe ravine
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Mitsuba

elfin tangle
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Especially when Mitsuba uses it a ton of times outside of the Doctor Wu arc

runic adder
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oh yea forgot that mitsuba existed

golden latch
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New universe stands have a tendency to be shitter old universe stands

runic adder
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shes jobins wife right?

fringe ravine
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yeah

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she also thicc

golden latch
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And if they are new, they ae still shit

golden latch
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With the exception of main character stands

elfin tangle
runic adder
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how are they just shittier old universe stands

elfin tangle
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Main villain stands are sick too

runic adder
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only one that comes to mind immediately is rais

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but its very different from stone free in its uses

golden latch
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Well the main example, Fun fun fun and Justice

runic adder
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fun fun fun is way better than justice and more inventive

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operates on a way different level

elfin tangle
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Eh

fringe ravine
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Rai just doesnt have the punch ghost to go with it

runic adder
golden latch
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It's really just a weaker version of the same stand

runic adder
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the crossbow fork was so badass lol

elfin tangle
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I'd say that Justice is better but Fun Fun Fun had slightly more time to shine

elfin tangle
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Justice's conditions to control people is way easier

elfin tangle
golden latch
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There also the love deluxes

near cedar
near cedar
elfin tangle
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Gonna have to agree that a lot of new universe stands are great though, not a shittier version a lot are just different and insane

near cedar
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Love Delux and Love Love Delux aren't even similar

runic adder
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love deluxes are sorta similar but its just gonna be a way to tie yukako and karera in together

elfin tangle
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Nut King Call doesn't need to touch you to place stuff, that makes Joshu's stand pretty friggin different

near cedar
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Controlling your hair
Making hair grow

fringe ravine
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they both have something to do with hair but dont really work the same way

frozen charm
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Karera

golden latch
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King Nothing Highway Star

fringe ravine
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KARSrera

runic adder
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when writing hundreds of stand powers, its expected you would be able to look at two stands and point to them as similar

golden latch
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Actually no

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It's King Nothing and the user of Highwaystar

fringe ravine
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Highway Star also works by scent

frozen charm
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King everything

fringe ravine
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not just Yuya himself

near cedar
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King Nothing recreates scenes

left ferry
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Or Rai Mamezuku's stand name

near cedar
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While following a smell

frozen charm
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Where's your crown

near cedar
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Highway star drains your nutrients

golden latch
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When I mean shitter I didn't mean bad

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I meant weaker

runic adder
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highway star sucks you dry

near cedar
runic adder
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who is nothing and what are they the king of

near cedar
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You're

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Mom

fringe ravine
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*Your're

runic adder
frozen charm
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Your're momther

runic adder
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yuo're fathern't

fringe ravine
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fathern't

frozen charm
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yo m

runic adder
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did kira collect ojiros fingers

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like ojiro ate them off but did kira steal them, its probably what part 4 kira would have done

fringe ravine
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no, pt 8 kira is well adjusted

runic adder
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sure he is

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so well adjusted he relentlessly bullied a surfer into biting his hands off

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and obviously not narcissistic enough to keep molds of his own hands

fringe ravine
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relatively more well adjusted

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the bullying part at least is partly on ojirou

near cedar
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Did you miss the part where what Kira gets off to is hurting women and women's severed hands

golden latch
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No

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Kira8 only likes his own hands

fringe ravine
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hes talking about kira4

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i just find it weird that Kira seemed concerned enough about Ojirou's safety that he warned him to stay off the coast, and that's in a third person flashback which is usually more objective

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while the one to say Kira convinced Ojirou to eat his own fingers was Ojirou himself

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Kira still did push Ojirou around with the man of sea land whatever questions but im having doubts he actually also made him bite his fingers off

near cedar
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The other Kira

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Did you even read what I replied to

golden latch
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I did

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I just read what you were replying to, which said Ojiro

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So I assumed it was about part 8

frozen charm
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Jijol

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Om

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Johiliom

olive bobcat
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yeah

plain sphinx
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Ok maybe not walking heart but I still like california king bed even tho it's super specific and conditional.😂

crude orchid
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uuugghhh where is the new chapter

white pasture
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tomorrow

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copium

elfin tangle
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The design is baller

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A shame it couldn't get a better ability

plain sphinx
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Why does a stand have to be strong or super useful to be liked or good? Again I liked the conditions that come with it and how creative it was overall.suspeyes

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That's what I like about jjl. A lot of stands are super specific and have super precise conditions to activate in the first place. Of course they are super limited but that's why the creativity of their user becomes so much more meaningful. It's so great that araki was still able to manage to write interesting arcs with them.

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Atleast I agree with the walking heart stand

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Tho its implementation in the vitamin c arc was epic af.

near cedar
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Cuz then it's boring

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Or there's ones that i just flat out despise because of what they are

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Superfly and Cheap Trick

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Since they are both a detriment to the user

plain sphinx
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I think we have a different understanding of what makes a stand good in the first place. For me it isn't all about utility but HOW it is implemented in the story, how much it fits its user and how well said user finds a creative use for it. Even the most useless stands can provide us with some of the most nail biting tension in the series. If you prefer your punching ghosts, then that's ok as well.

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The fact that dayas stand ended up being so dangerous for josuke is proof of that. She overcame her own limitations and almost beat him. That's the best part about it.

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Soooo california king bed best stand. Tooru get ready! tonpa

minor ore
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I disagree the best stand is wonder of you cuz it kills everything and anything

plain sphinx
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best stand design imo

near cedar
plain sphinx
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Yes exactly. The stand became so dangerous because of josukes pre established lack of memories. The conditions were carefully set to make this stand work. Again: HOW it was implemented.

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Stands can get great and interesting when the story calls for it. Araki can make a laughable idea of a stand work.

near cedar
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Looks at the laughable Khnum who's arc is dogshit since Joseph and Polnareff are stupid all of a sudden because the arc literally can't work if they are as smart as they usually are

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And also Khnum being a worse version of Yellow Temperence

plain sphinx
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But that was a comedic arc. The tension in it was how they are going to get busted and therefore was funny af. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously in the first place. lukafacepalm

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Back then a lot of people complained why a lot of the enemy stands in p4 were way weaker than the ones in sdc. Araki gave a great answer to that and he followed that philosophy in p8 which is its AU counterpart in a lot of ways.

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I'm trying to find this interview rn.

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But for now our philosphies of what makes stands great differ. It's all subjective anyway.

near cedar
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DIO's most powerful stand users the Glory Gods

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And 1 of em can't fight without support Boingo, and the other has a worse version of an earlier stand, Oingo

plain sphinx
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Bruh

near cedar
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Having them among his most powerful stand users is fucking stupid

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And it would be far more comical if Pol and Joseph instantly realised Oingo was a fake and tortured him with shit like "prove you are jotaro do x thing which is painful"

plain sphinx
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Who said that every enemy stand member in egypt is the most powerful? There were plenty of stands before egypt that were way stronger.

near cedar
plain sphinx
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Another example of specific stand that works under certain conditions is mariah. Her stand isn't powerful in any way. It's HOW she uses it. Why is it so hard to understand?

near cedar
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N'doul, D'arbys once they get something over you to make you play, Pet Shop, Alessi, Mariah, Ice those cunts are all much stronger then Oingo and Boingo

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Mariah sets a trap, you touch the trap, you are now a magnet

plain sphinx
near cedar
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If they have more potenital cuz of the users

plain sphinx
near cedar
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Why are Oingo and Boingo among them

plain sphinx
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Feel bad for her, trap activates.

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It's simple

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You're being hypocritical rn

near cedar
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Her stands ability is only really useful against 1 perticular character

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Mariah is useful on anybody

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Cuz as long as you touch her stand, she can fuck you up

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Daiya can't fuck anybody up as badly if they have a normal amount of memories

plain sphinx
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Nope it doesn't work against anyone. If your stand has range then her ability is useless.

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Catch her and she's done for.

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Especially when she has to maintain a certain range

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She can't be too far away.

near cedar
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That still doesn't explain why Khnum is good even tho it literally relies on everybody being fucking blind and stupid

plain sphinx
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Ok I'll make it slow.

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Khnum in combination wirh toth has the potential to be super dangerous. But since this arc was used as a breather after the intense n'doul fight, he wanted to add comedic elements to it. So he created a situation where the stand is at its most useless by making toths prediction bite it in the ass. The crusaders luck but also complete obliviousness are cranked up by 11 just to set the stage for this comedic arc. And that's exactly what I was trying to say from the very beginning: stands can get cool or uncool with how araki plans the story for them. A super overpowered stand can become laughable if the situation is created for it and the same goes for the opposite: A super specific stand can get interesting because of it.
Arakis philosophy of writing stands in p8 mirrors what he did in p4 by giving weaker stands more time to shine. Both parts are more grounded in reality. Stand fights aren't as spectacular and epic like p5 or p6 because the tone is different. His goal to make the weak stands shine and create the situations for them where they can shine but also have competent users who overcome their shortcomings with creativity and resolve. That makes me appreciate the stands and especially what they symbolize even more.

near cedar
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"Khnum in combination wirh toth has the potential to be super dangerous" if the target is a blind idiot sure

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Considering he can change his height, smell and face and that's it

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Oh and voice maybe

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But not clothing

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Or hair

near cedar
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What

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I'm right

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You have to be literally unable to see to fall for it

plain sphinx
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You know what I give up. Think what you want.

near cedar
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I don't think

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I know i'm right about this

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You can't fall for it if you have a normal human iq

near cedar
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And sight

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So what you'd fall for Jotaro suddenly appearing in different clothing, not acting like himself and having huge hair

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Nobody would fall for this

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You can have a serious arc with comedy- Mariah

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But then you bring in 2 villains who DIO would have to be an utter jackass to put with his elite guards

plain sphinx
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It's a pure COMEDY arc. There was plenty of bullshit in jojo that isn't supposed to be taken seriously. It intentionally made to silly for entertainment. My point STILL stands.
Yes mariah did both and that's why I like it better but you didn't refute my point at all.

near cedar
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DIO having them as his elite guards is stupid as shit

plain sphinx
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Yes. Dio hiring a baby is also stupid as shit

near cedar
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No

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Cuz the baby

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Can kill them

plain sphinx
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Plenty of bs

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In all of jojo

near cedar
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Yes and some of it is so goddamn stupid that it just makes some shit unbarable

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Like writing your characters as damn idiots all of a sudden just for funni

plain sphinx
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A shonen manga for a younger audience that creates comedy for younger audiences. How horrible.

sudden nymph
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Yo what’s the debate about

minor ore
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Hello there

plain sphinx
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Serious and epic shit paired with silly comedic shit.

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Shonen manga material

plain sphinx
near cedar
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I don't think you understand my point even slightly

near cedar
# sudden nymph Yo what’s the debate about

Me debating that Araki putting Oingo Boingo as Glory Gods makes DIO seem like a goddamn idiot because Glory Gods are his elites and sure Boingo can do stuff paired with somebody (unless that somebody is a damn idiot) but Oingo requiers you to be literally blind and stupid for his stand to work

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I'm saying Oingo and Boing should be in the part of part 3 where they are going to Egypt not show up as DIO's elite dudes

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also writing Polnareff and Joseph as fucking blind jackasses in that arc is goddamn annoying

viral plume
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Fair

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It is genuinly retna destroyingly stupid that they are glory gods and not Enya and J'Geill

near cedar
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Indeed

plain sphinx
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My god . I think you got me wrong.My point in the first place was that stand encounters can vary on HOW they are implemented. Making stands and their situations stupid IS the goal of it just as it is the goal of making a stand interesting or threatening. If you find oingo boingos arc stupid then that's fair but it doesn't refute my point in any way. Situations are stupid because they are SUPPOSED to be like that. My point is that daiyas stand was great because it prefectly fit the goal what araki was writing with her and his overall philosophy of stands in this part.

viral plume
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Guys, its supposed to be stupid, so its fine :3

plain sphinx
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Daiyas is great. Oingo boingo is stupid.

near cedar
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"Situations are stupid because they are SUPPOSED to be like that." That doesn't make it better

viral plume
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That just makes araki seem lazy that he cant make a well written situation to have stands work

plain sphinx
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Yes because some stands flourish under these situations, some don't.

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It's up to araki on how interesting the stand is going to be.

viral plume
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Stands shouldnt have the florish under mental regression

plain sphinx
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For some like oingo boingo which is comedy.

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But we were arguing whether daiyas stand was great or not.

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And I think it was great because of how it played out in the story

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That was the whole argument anyway.

viral plume
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Yeah, Calefornia King Bed is a really cool arc

plain sphinx
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See?

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Finally

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Thank you

viral plume
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I mean, oingo boingo isnt really a good example to prove arakis method of writing being pog, but I can agree on the base point that CKB is pog

plain sphinx
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my overall point was that stands can be stupid or not simply on how he wants to implement them in the story.

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If oingo boingo sucks for you then it's totally fine.

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But that wasn't the point I was trying to make. I didn't even bring them up.

plain sphinx
viral plume
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Pog

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Daiya is such a disgusting person that is so manipulative with her stand and how she acts

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Its great

plain sphinx
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Exactly!

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She uses her disability to her advantage and creates this situation in the first place. I fucking love it.

scarlet star
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Imagine if one of the jojo parts was eyes of heaven where every single joestar came together

summer nova
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that would be the best jojo part

near cedar
upper knoll
olive bobcat
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hehehehe

scarlet star
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And didnt josuke 4 and yoshikage kira fuse.?

olive bobcat
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...

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did you read jjl?

near cedar
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How'd you get that idea

inland ferry
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????

light swift
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No josuke from part 4 fell in a ditch and teleported to the walls eyes

fringe ravine
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i hope the wall eyes get more explained soon

olive bobcat
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enya shouldve been a glory god

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and uhhh, steely dan as the 2nd replacement?

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sudden nymph
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Her stand is kinda useless without weapons

sudden nymph
sudden nymph
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This is very jojolion

hard meteor
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yes

cosmic finch
late lagoon
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Did they ever explain what the bite marks meant?

olive bobcat
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people rushing through SO to get to SBR

inland oyster
runic adder
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I thought bite marks gave them stands?

hard meteor
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That only seems to be true in joshus case

runic adder
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What about yasuho

hard meteor
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Yasuho had it when she was a kid

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She’s shown using it in a flashback when she met tooru

runic adder
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Weird

hard meteor
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Yeah

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pretty weird honestly

runic adder
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So it’s just iwasuke nipping people and running away!

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That’s my headcanon until it gets explained

sudden nymph
near cedar
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Problem solved

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Don't matter what makes the wound as long as there is a wound

sudden nymph
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Honestly that’s a op team up

near cedar
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Yes it is

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And then all the Crusaders have to work together to take em down

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All the present ones

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and no Star Succ bs

sudden nymph
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I’m a sucker for anime fights that are one villain vs every main character

runic adder
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They really show how op a villain is

sudden nymph
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This is why kuma vs the straw hats is one of my favorite anime fights

runic adder
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My favorite villain vs team of heros fight is it mp100 against this one teleporting guy

runic adder
hard meteor
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And I hope that’s not the case

runic adder
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So if you always had it, you gain consciousness of it

hard meteor
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I could believe that in yasuhos case

runic adder
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I haven’t gotten to the part where we see yasuho with her stand as a child, is she able to control it?

sudden nymph
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My theory is that the wall eyes are a stand themselves and the mystery man is the user

hard meteor
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But that doesn’t explain josuke having it

runic adder
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It’s possible

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I originally thought the wall eyes were formed by the holy corpse

sudden nymph
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It could be both

runic adder
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I like the idea in the new universe that certain locations invoke stands

olive bobcat
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Makorin is the main villain

fringe ravine
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it;s ojirou instead

sudden nymph
near cedar
olive bobcat
fringe ravine
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notorious T H I C C

runic adder
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And all at the same time

olive bobcat
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There's very few arcs where all 6 were present to begin with

runic adder
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Araki just didn’t know how to balance all of them I think

olive bobcat
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And that's why avdol barely did anything lmao

runic adder
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And iggy

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At least iggy had a good reason to do nothing

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I think I just recently got a lego White House that looks almost exactly like the one in jojolion

olive bobcat
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Based

minor ore
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WHAT?!? THE WHITE HOUSE LOOKING LIKE THE WHITE HOUSE?!?!?

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no way bro

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but also there is an exact lego set of the same one

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its 21006 The White House

runic adder
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Yea that’s the one I think I have

near cedar
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To beat Enya and J. Giles

potent harness
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Wait WAIT WAIT

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What just happened in jojolion..

olive bobcat
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uhh where are you

potent harness
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Exchange of equivalent value?!?!?

olive bobcat
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hehe, thats important

potent harness
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There was nothing of that sort in part 7 when funny valentine just fecked everyone over for him to stay safe

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This is just unfair

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Also gaaaaah Johnny 😭

olive bobcat
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johnny 😔

potent harness
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Always has to sacrifice himself

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Just why?!?

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There's nothing of equivalent value that hurt valentine when he used the corpse

olive bobcat
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its not quite from the same principles, youll get better explanation later

potent harness
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There was always luck on his side but for Johnny it just so happened that it got transferred to someone in such close proximity gaaah this is hard to take in

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I mean just saying he's dead is something but learning the reason is hurting me way too much

olive bobcat
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yeah, after over 100 years it was expected, but oooof

potent harness
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I know right

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And just at the age of 29

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He didn't even see George grow up.. or grow old with Rina 😭

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Where as I'm pretty sure Joseph is still somewhere cheating on his wife

olive bobcat
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uhhh, i think you get a full family tree later

potent harness
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Giving more joestars to the world and whatnot xD

frozen charm
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No that already happened

potent harness
olive bobcat
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oh ok

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you dont get much info bout members between johnny and like holy though

potent harness
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I mean the family tree might update..

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Like Joseph cheated in the previous universe when he was about 60 right

frozen charm
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Joshu is actually the reincarnation of johnny (real)

kind owlBOT
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@frozen charm, Your Hamon Rank is now level 22 !

frozen charm
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No way

potent harness
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No way at all

frozen charm
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Level 22 is impossible

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You can't get level 22

olive bobcat
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not of this world

potent harness
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Oh I was talking about joshu

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XD

frozen charm
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Joshu is kinda sex c

potent harness
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Really? I don't see it tho :(

sudden nymph
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Joshu is pure beauty

potent harness
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Maybe further in I'll feel the same

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Also holly DOES NOT look 52

sudden nymph
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I agree with that

potent harness
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I'd believe her if she said she was Yasuho's sister

fringe ravine
near cedar
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Neat character, but god is he a cunt

potent harness
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Too whiny as far as I saw him.. that's the only word that comes to my mind

fringe ravine
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he's not a pleasant character, but everyone in-story reacts like he is so its intended

potent harness
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But by some miracle he's trying to warm up to josuke.. like he wanted to treat him to a local delicacy or something just now

sudden nymph
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In all seriousness Joshu is my favorite comic relief character in jojo and is probably the only jojo comic relief character where I have laughed evertime

fringe ravine
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he fluctuates, he'd be much more interesting if jojolion as a world isnt just full of shitty people in general

olive bobcat
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yeah, a lot of the characters are very morally grey

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even the protags to an extent

fringe ravine
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rather unnecessarily so too often in the case of npcs

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i found it strange considering pt 7 was actually better at this, its not just a constant train of shit people after shit people there

sudden nymph
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Joshu always looks out for himself but while looking out for himself he can sometimes help the protags because it helps him which makes him a very interesting character in the story because you never know if he’s going to help out or ruin everything

fringe ravine
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i was about to say that however i also look at joshu as his own side so to speak

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most people tend to talk about joshu as just this sort of car crash funny thing

sudden nymph
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He can sometimes be that but he isn’t always

fringe ravine
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but imo hes better if you see him as an actual actor to the plot

rocky charm
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Jojolion side characters are mostly both horrible people and just visually repulsive

fringe ravine
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yeah, so joshu isnt unique in that regard, but he can be more than that is what im saying

sudden nymph
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Besides Joshu most side characters aren’t horrible people

olive bobcat
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i wouldnt say horrid people, most of them just have their own agenda that go against the protags

hard meteor
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But even then lots of them have developed in a lot areas

fringe ravine
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i was thinking caroniver might also mean the npcs in general

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random fucking old man try to extort money out of you for shits he knows you didnt do

sudden nymph
hard meteor
rocky charm
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Speaking of side characters

fringe ravine
rocky charm
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What did happen to this guys?

fringe ravine
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he died

rocky charm
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Jousuke touched his hand and his neck broke?

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Was that because of Endless Calamity somehow?

fringe ravine
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yeah

rocky charm
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Was this the Bubble's Infinite Spin?

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This is insane.

fringe ravine
hard meteor
# fringe ravine you have a very broad definition of horrible then

I don’t think so,like the old man on shakedown road you mentioned isn’t a horrible person,like yeah his actions are shitty but at the end of day he doesn’t really take any money from josuke and actually leads him on the right direction to understanding his bloodline more

fringe ravine
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and if josuke didnt just bump into that money he got from the drug dealers he'd have still tried to extort him for it

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thats why josuke still had to pay him even though everybody knows it isnt his fault

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it just ends well, doesnt mean the old man wasnt shit

hard meteor
fringe ravine
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he took the money josuke took from joshu

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joshu swiped the money from the transaction

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but josuke took it from him and gave it to the old man

golden latch
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No on on shakedown road is good

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They all profit off of unknowing travelers

fringe ravine
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yeah, theyre normalizing douchebaggery

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so you can either look at it as its ok because its normal or, well, its still daylight robbery

hard meteor
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No ones saying it’s normal or ok

rocky charm
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Just because everyone's doing it doesn't make it OK

kind owlBOT
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@rocky charm, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

rocky charm
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They're all situating themselves there because they know it's easy money

hard meteor
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The dude was shitty he’s just not completely awful cause he goes out of his way to tell josuke critical information important to the story and to his bloodline,if he was just a complete douche that moment would’ve never happened

fringe ravine
#

and then he tried extorting josuke for money out of that too

#

but i guess that was just for comic effect

minor ore
#

heres the thing, while it is a bruh moment to say the least, at the bare minimum its widely known so people go down there knowingly

hard meteor
#

Mostly comic effect cause it never goes anywhere and we switch focus to yasuho

fringe ravine
#

it still makes him unlikeable cause you know after he does that he goes right back to shakedown road to wait for another victim

#

and life goes on, nothing changes, everyone's still a dick

#

thats the kind of vibe jjl gives off honestly

fringe ravine
minor ore
golden latch
#

I mean to be fair, Josuke did break the glass

fringe ravine
#

i honestly dont want to argue on that cause it's very close to a debate on ethics and crap @minor ore

but long story short, you dont get to claim innocence off setting a house on fire just because you think it was the fad to do that

fringe ravine
#

you're drunk but you did sign the contract so youre still on it ha

minor ore
pure charm
#

Lol

fringe ravine
#

what im implying is it's a reputation because there's a constant stream of victims, not just one or two people, there's going to be someone who doesnt know and at that point, everyone'll say "sucks to be them"

minor ore
kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

ebon rampart
#

Absolutely love this video

fringe ravine
minor ore
#

same

minor ore
#

morality has nothing to do with law

#

laws are created to fulfil moral obligations

#

but they wear out

fringe ravine
#

and thats where it gets ethics and shit

minor ore
#

yeah

pure charm
minor ore
hard meteor
#

Yeah it was a scrapped part 2 song

minor ore
#

ah, thats why I dont remember it

ebon rampart
#

yeah there’s a whole bunch of scrapped songs

#

I believe there’s a playlist of it

minor ore
#

if you have it send

minor ore
#

thanks

ebon rampart
#

Np

pure charm
#

Theye are good songs

white pasture
#

sensen fukokuu

#

crazy my beat

potent harness
#

Okay I was just thinking they can't all be that bad and chapter 25 proved me wrong

#

Even the 9yr old is evil and crazy and joshu needs a hearing aid and also a little bit of common sense and control.

summer nova
#

yep

#

there are a lotta crazy mfers in jojolion

white pasture
#

especially calamity joshu

golden latch
#

I mean, when you meet his parents, you'll understand why he's like that

hard meteor
#

^

potent harness
#

I'm just scared of meeting another higashikata at this point

#

Everyone I met has somehow managed to assault one of the mains

golden latch
#

Well, there's a few more

sudden nymph
#

They aren’t made to be good people just good characters

potent harness
#

Weirdly enough my first impression of hato was she can't be good ... But the narcissist lady is better than most of her family

potent harness
pure charm
#

Hato is a waifu material

sudden nymph
potent harness
#

As long as they aren't hurting anyone.. they're fine ig

#

But part 8 is super different from all others

#

Like there's more of an element of surprise and suspense to it than the other parts

golden latch
#

Remember, no one spoil anything

#

Yeah

#

Don't do that

#

Jojolion

#

No, for Sana

potent harness
#

But yeah if I see potential spoilers I don't read the chat. But yeah it's always fun to come somewhere and talk your heart out about what just happened than gathering it all till the end :)

runic adder
#

Yea I haven’t finished jojolion yet and I hang out It here a lot

#

I have definitely gotten spoiled a bit tho

#

It’s not like you can really prepare for stuff like that

potent harness
#

Oh no I'm so sorry

runic adder
#

People don’t have to use spoiler tags so exercise caution

faint rivet
#

Smh today's the 18th why is there no jojolion chapter

#

I am extremely upset and I am going to sue Araki

potent harness
#

Then I should stop hanging in here.. now I'm scared because this part is really amazing and I like it very much.. solely for the thrilling part and the puzzle it's building up and of course josuke and Yasuho's chemistry

runic adder
#

That’s when the big mysteries are answered

golden latch
potent harness
runic adder
#

After that it sort of starts a new thread of mystery?

#

I thought the manga took a break this month

golden latch
#

Yeah

#

The middle of every part changes a lot

faint rivet
#

I crave jojolion

#

I am going to sue him even harder now

runic adder
#

Yea jojolion is pretty distinct with it’s parts

faint rivet
#

Then I will own the jojolion

runic adder
#

It’s a pretty clear first and second half

faint rivet
#

I will be god

runic adder
#

Awesome be sure jojolion ends soon tho

#

I require weekly chapters

arctic lodge
#

Make Joshu kill Tooru

faint rivet
#

No

golden latch
#

Nope

#

Wait actually

arctic lodge
golden latch
#

Cuz TWOH requires a punch

faint rivet
#

I am completely fine with monthly chapters as long as Araki takes the time to create a great chapter

golden latch
#

And you can't punch WoU

arctic lodge
#

Imagine if the April announcement is just next jjl chapter troll_face

golden latch
#

Again he would have to punch it

arctic lodge
golden latch
#

Not only that, but Josuke is still pursuing while shooting the bubble

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

olive bobcat
#

nah, its got a width of 0, doesnt exist according to any sense of the word

minor ore
#

Did you forget TWOH has infinite time stop bruh

#

No because it requires actions of other objects and movement to do

olive bobcat
#

ok, not zero, more like 1/infinity, which doesnt equate to any real number

runic adder
#

So on the last of the colored chapters sad

arctic lodge
#

You I'll get spoiled!!!

runic adder
#

So ima leave

arctic lodge
#

Yeah

olive bobcat
#

paradox

minor ore
#

Thats its main way of attacking using calamity, it isnt merely bound to them

#

It can trip someone, but like we see, ||the bubbles attack rai and shit||

#

And the chairs during the chase and etc

summer nova
#

its not an asspull actually

#

it was foreshadowed in chapter 1

hard meteor
#

It’s been built for quite a while now

summer nova
#

no?

#

he never learnt the spin

hard meteor
#

Lol

summer nova
#

not consciously

golden latch
#

Josuke never learned anything

summer nova
#

it's just part of his stand

golden latch
#

He was born with it all

summer nova
#

due to the fusion

#

yeah

hard meteor
#

He can’t control it it’s just part of the ability

summer nova
#

ok wait

#

andy i think i understand what youre confused about

golden latch
#

Josuke never learned math, but he's pretty good at it

summer nova
#

there are 2 types of bubbles

golden latch
#

Because both his parts were smart

summer nova
#

there is the explosive spinning bubbles that come out of josuke's birthmark

#

they are invisible

#

josuke cant control them

#

then there is the visible bubbles that come out of his hands

golden latch
#

Obviously one, or both, of his parts knew the spin

summer nova
#

the bubble josuke has been shooting with his hands were normal bubbles all along

#

that's why they got deflected n shit

#

but the others are totally invisible to josuke

#

no that was a normal bubble

#

an explosive spin bubble would have phased through the cane or something

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

olive bobcat
#

i mean yeah, hes the main villain lmao

summer nova
#

something that was interesting was how it seemed like tooru saw the bubble in that last panel

#

it could just be him looking at yasuho

#

but idk it seems like he noticed something else too

#

maybe

#

we'll see

olive bobcat
#

absolutely is, if you wanna rank stands by strength, WoU probably ends up at like #3

#

nah, id say GER and D4C:LT go above it, with WoU at #3

hard meteor
#

No it doesn’t

olive bobcat
#

id argue otherwise, its not any spin that can hit WoU

hard meteor
#

Mih wouldn’t win

olive bobcat
#

if pucci tries to kill tooru, a calamity WILL occur, no matter how fast pucci is

hard meteor
#

Speed wouldn’t stop a calamity

olive bobcat
#

this is a pretty good example of what would happen

hard meteor
#

Something else would knock into pucci before he reaches tooru

olive bobcat
#

weve seen it control people

#

it controlled joshu at one point

#

when yasuho was approaching tooru on the driveway, joshu went apeshit bc he was the nearest potential source of calamity

#

there was a reporter just trying to interview him and got hit with calamity

summer nova
#

there isnt really plot armor at this point

#

no one is really pursuing the head doctor except for the gang gang

hard meteor
#

No it’s just intent in general,remember when poor tom got killed by a calamity by only trying to get the branch to tooru

summer nova
#

have u seen what happened afterwards

#

yes

#

do u think that was a coincidence??

#

it was a calamity

#

lol

#

nope

#

it seems to be automatic

#

WoU has more of a passive and universal ability

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

summer nova
#

yep

#

it's able to phase through walls n shit

olive bobcat
#

the dick is very important

#

Dododo De Dadada has a small spiked body with circular joints on to its limbs. Its main body has two long, insect like legs, akin to that of a spider's limbs. At the end of these legs are sharp claws that act as stingers, the main method of attack for the Rock Insect.

#

thats one picture, but theres also the one where it looks like a crane thing

barren bough
#

any predictions for next chapter?

olive bobcat
#

flashback :)

white pasture
#

tooru and josuke meet in person. i just want them to box 😢

olive bobcat
#

i hope we get something more concrete about his motivations

#

i say the bubble hits tooru, but he doesnt die in 106

hard meteor
olive bobcat
#

so far we dont have a whole ton about his motives apart from the general rock human stuff of "become rich and become the dominant species"

barren bough
olive bobcat
#

hell yeah

summer nova
#

this is the next rock insect

olive bobcat
#

pjotr face reveal

#

amogus

olive bobcat
summer nova
#

im the guy with the glasses

#

supa hot fiyah

olive bobcat
#

HOLY SHIT ITS SUPAH HOT FIRE

summer nova
#

😎

#

sssshhhhhhhh

white pasture
#

what would you guys call

#

tooru's hairstyle

summer nova
#

explosive spin

summer nova
#

spoiler tag it

runic adder
summer nova
#

ok i'm letting this pass

runic adder
#

I didn’t actually spoil anything

#

Ha never

summer nova
#

dont tell me what to do

#

baka

white pasture
#

just say that u like universe 2

summer nova
#

ur a kono dio da-er 😃

white pasture
#

sbr is undeniably good 😼

summer nova
#

true

#

that's a fact

white pasture
#

and if they try to say jojolion is bad tell them to read 😼

runic adder
#

Why would you think it was gonna be horrible

#

Each part gets better and better

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

summer nova
#

i love this so much

#

it never gets old

runic adder
#

Oh haha that does seem weird in hindsight

#

But really, most people following jojo for a while wouldn’t be surprised by that

#

The wackier the jojo, the better the part

frozen charm
#

Google joshu

summer nova
#

that first image is the thumbnail of shuck's worst take

hoary sun
#

One month without a chapter and this channel really is losing it

olive bobcat
#

yep

#

to be fair, this channel is constantly losing it

hard meteor
#

True

white pasture
#

everyday i am losing my mind

#

except for the 4 days before a chapter release and the 4 days after a chapter

daring oasis
#

Whats this channel about..?

#

Oh alright

white pasture
#

i take 20 mins to read a chapter

kind owlBOT
#

@white pasture, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

white pasture
#

im analyzing everything

sage crag
#

Could the calamity affect things even under a stand effect

#

Ex: the world time stop

#

king crimson dimension sht

#

just a thought i had

inland oyster
#

We don’t know

runic adder
#

inb4 soft and wet gets a useless time stop movement ability like tusk

sudden nymph
ember light
#

this chat is insane during the month because no jojolion

#

then when new jojolion chapter comes out this chat is insane because new jojolion

#

its never not insane

outer smelt
#

based

frozen charm
#

Tooru does a little trolling (real)

runic adder
#

(fake)

#

and cringe

feral saffron
#

Wait there's no new chapter this month is there

#

Or am I tripping

olive bobcat
#

nope, only in april

feral saffron
#

Oh ok

lethal jasper
#

new chapter never

runic adder
#

when do jojolion chapters get colored

#

and how much do they color at a time

minor ore
#

Racist

minor ore
#

The colored volumes get randomly released

runic adder
#

do they color an entire volume at a time?

ember light
#

multiple volumes get released at once but when they obviously wont be translated for while

#

theres literally no schedule to the releases

runic adder
#

fan translations dont take that long tho so its fine

runic adder
#

at least, how frequently have they been released?

ember light
#

yaeahh

runic adder
#

they're up to chapter 73 in uhhh, 10 years

#

so idk how frequent coloring is

ember light
runic adder
#

ah ok

ember light
#

but in the 8 months or so that I have been caught up there has been 1 release of new colored volumes

runic adder
#

glad someone answered at least

ember light
#

ye

runic adder
#

a colored volume is still a decent chunk of chapters

#

ive heard some people dont like the coloring for some recent characters

ember light
#

I prefer reading black and white usually anyway tbh

runic adder
#

i just like coloring for jojo, bw hurts my eyes a bit more

ember light
ember light
minor ore
#

2 volumes came out in 2019, and like 7 came out last year in December.

runic adder
#

it depends on the manga, but most colorings for manga look ugly

runic adder
minor ore
#

Racism

runic adder
#

im assuming the character they mean is tooru right?

ember light
#

yeah

runic adder
#

he doesnt look too bad in the one color panel i saw of him tbh

ember light
#

Im not a big fan of his colors or his stand's colors

ember light
runic adder
#

there are barely any color chapters of tooru anyways

#

at least on mangadex they are only caught up to chapter 73

#

when does tooru get introduced? like his arc starts

minor ore
#

There are 94 colored chapters, translations just haven't come out yet.

ember light
#

yeah

runic adder
#

oh what thats dumb

#

why is every other fan translation fast af except for jojo

minor ore
#

Properly typesetting takes quite some work, so I don't blame them

runic adder
white pasture
#

it is just tooru

#

toorus pants

olive bobcat
#

piss pants

runic adder
#

taking 'drippy' to a whole nother level with piss pants

minor ore
#

Translations are pretty much already have been done, because the B&W chapters have been out.

runic adder
#

yea

minor ore
#

Where is the colored japanese?

late lagoon
#

Do you guys think Mamezuku and Kei are going to fuse?

#

Or however you spell their names

minor ore
minor ore
#

Anyways

#

Tooru died

#

Dies

#

Haato tries to kill off the rest of the higashikatas out of anger

#

Idk actually these last few arcs can go anywhere now

light swift
#

I swear if tooru takes out a stick and fucking deflects it I’m gonna flip my floor

minor ore
#

nah it’s his turn to be put on pack watch

dreamy marsh
#

Pa Po Pe Pa Pa Ra Pa

minor ore
#

if there’s another rock bug the chapter drops to a 4/10 automatically

#

I don't mind them too much, but it's kinda annoying

#

But I mean he's intentionally buying time

#

It's not just villian plot armor

rocky charm
#

Poppy Pipopapo

#

Anyway, I missed the discussion on colored manga, but for most manga I'm fine reading b/w

#

Jojo looks waaay better in color, though, because all of the detailing can really hurt your eyes

near cedar
#

2nd?

#

How

spring wharf
#

love train ig

near cedar
#

Hope that's not the actual answer

light swift
#

I think the bubbles can bypass love train

#

For sure

near cedar
#

I don't think Josuke's spin bubbles can bypass LT

spring wharf
#

he said wou was the second strongest villain i think

near cedar
#

No their sentence here is clearly about WoU

#

And WoU may be the strongest villain, discounting the ones who literally can't be killed by most means

faint rivet
#

Jojolion

zenith blaze
#

E

hard meteor
#

good stand

zenith blaze
#

Super good

zenith blaze
#

What happens if your surrounded buy arrows

olive bobcat
#

then you just cant move probably

sudden nymph
#

Or perhaps you get crushed

golden latch
#

But really, it's just a weaker WoU

olive bobcat
#

id say wou is better than just LT, but if you combine lt with d4cs abilities then it comes out on top

slow saffron
#

The way the wiki words this

#

It sounds like she just picks up an actual bed and hits people with it

runic adder
#

I mean if you hit someone with an entire bed they would probably get some kind of head injury

#

So the wiki isn’t wrong

slow saffron
#

She's fucking rIPPED

hollow abyss
#

Yoooo, where the new chapter

olive bobcat
#

in a month lmao

hollow abyss
#

NANI?!?!?!

kind owlBOT
#

@hollow abyss, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

olive bobcat
#

he took a hiatus for march

#

april 19th is when 106 comes

#

or smth like that

hollow abyss
#

:( but.....I thought that was rumour. Did the people on discord lie to me?

slow saffron
#

He made fun of Josuke in an interview that was not released, because Josuke came off the page and beat him up

olive bobcat
#

at the end of 105, it said that there'd be no chapter in march

hollow abyss
#

I'm never trusting people here again, I feel betrayed D:

olive bobcat
#

oof

hollow abyss
#

You monster

#

Mmmmmhmm

sudden nymph
hollow abyss
#

Nah, look at my replies it was back in march 14th

sudden nymph
#

Oh ok

hollow abyss
#

How could they twist my heart like this mistacry I thought you guys were my bros

rocky charm
#

Can't help but notice the soap bubble is going at the Rock Animal on his arm

frozen charm
#

Real

white pasture
#

Real

sudden nymph
#

Bears are insects not animals duh

tawdry pond
#

the bear is going to catch the bubble and throw it and joshu

olive bobcat
#

joshu will be the fucking dead

summer nova
#

if the bear is somehow a rock animal, then the bubble would simply phase through it

#

bc this is the explosive spin bubble so it can phase through calamities

#

i think

hard meteor
#

yeah

near cedar
#

A rock animal isn't a calamity tho

#

It's just a thing WOU sent out that's attacking

barren bough
rocky charm
#

Tbf, Tooru has had a bear on both his arms the whole time

olive bobcat
#

yeah, 106 will already be called Obladi Oblada Part 1 for sure

rocky charm
#

The Rock Insects literally come out of nowhere

#

But these bears would actually have been foreshadowed, so they're not gonna be anything

barren bough
kind owlBOT
#

@barren bough, Your Hamon Rank is now level 9 !

turbid onyx
#

If Jojolion over or is it still going on?

near cedar
turbid onyx
#

K

olive bobcat
#

still a month until araki trolls us with an all flashback chapter

neat helm
#

I just want to consume Tooru’s hair

olive bobcat
#

same

turbid onyx
#

Hey is Josuke in this part related to the Joestars at all?

hard meteor
#

uh

#

yeah?

#

did you read the part

sage crag
#

It's complicated

#

yeah i'm relunctant to say it

turbid onyx
#

Nah

kind owlBOT
#

@turbid onyx, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

turbid onyx
#

I don’t care about spoilers though

rocky charm
#

OK

hard meteor
#

get out of this channel

rocky charm
#

||Josuke is the fusion of Lira Yoshikage and Jousefumi what's his face||

turbid onyx
#

Oh ok

rocky charm
#

||Kira is the son of Holly Joestar-Kira, who's descended from Johnny||

turbid onyx
#

Ok

#

That kinda makes sense

hard meteor
#

jesus bro why do so many of these people deliberately hop in this channel without reading first bruhmomento

rocky charm
#

||The Higashikata family, who adopted Jousuke, is also related to Johnny. I think it was Norisuke II's sister married him? But I can't remember what the exact relation is||

olive bobcat
#

I think I remember grandslam saying they didn't really have access to the manga?

#

Or do I misremember

#

Idk

turbid onyx
#

No your right

#

Where I live doesn’t have manga of Parts 5-8

rocky charm
#

Tbf, most places don't

turbid onyx
#

I’m reading part 6 online right now

rocky charm
#

Ah

grizzled pilot
#

they are not actually blood related to johnny to be clear

#

he's just a great-great-uncle through marriage or something

rocky charm
#

Yeah

#

Current Higashikatas are the children of Norisuke IV. 2 generations up, Norisuke II's sister, Rina, married Johnny

grizzled pilot
#

that would be three up, no?

olive bobcat
#

Nah, just 2

#

3 gens up of jobin, Joshu, etc

inland oyster
#

Oh this is a lil bad looking

#

Lemme find a HQ pic

grizzled pilot
#

yes... three generations up from the children of norisuke IV

inland oyster
olive bobcat
#

Y'all think we'll get holy stand reveal before jjl ends?

inland oyster
#

Yes

hard meteor
#

yeah

sage crag
#

Imagine killer queen going shibabababa in jojolion

primal lintel
#

if only kira had bites the dust in jjl too

#

he deserved it

hard meteor
primal lintel
#

with bites the dust he could've beat damo in two seconds and everyone would've gone home happy

#

jojolion over

white pasture
#

holly saved

#

but kira just HAD to die like a little noob

#

so now some kid with bubble powers has to fight old man

near cedar
#

You fight Damo see how you do :p

hard meteor
#

he might not have even won with bites the dust,it honestly isn't that good of an ability

rocky charm
#

I was saying 2 generations up from Norisuke IV

#

Which would be 3 up from the kids

#

4 up from Tsurugi

primal lintel
#

i'd see him and nope out of there

rocky charm
#

Lmao I forgot that Daiya is supposed to be 16

near cedar
#

Ye

split tide
#

They both used bubbles doe.

split tide
olive bobcat
#

Damo is AU Kenny G

#

Source: trust me bro

zenith blaze
#

Kqau vs kq

olive bobcat
#

KQau is better

hard meteor
#

kqau

#

facts

split tide
#

How come no one names their stands any normal people names? Like I'd call my stand George....

olive bobcat
#

KQs strength comes primarily from SHA, and au has an upgraded version of it

zenith blaze
#

Kqau explosions cause tsunami warnings

#

Or at least did something to cause it

sudden nymph
olive bobcat
#

its just useless in an actual fight

hard meteor
#

yeah

sudden nymph
#

He doesn’t even use it in the final fight that’s how bad it is

viral plume
#

Its also really fucking conveniantly given

zenith blaze
#

What’s the point of bites the dust

split tide
#

I like your color Maxsus.

#

I want that color.

#

D:

olive bobcat
#

just get in trouble lmao

split tide
#

I really just want black.

olive bobcat
#

"longer"

#

a kid figured it out in a couple hours

sudden nymph
zenith blaze
#

E

split tide
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Howwwww

viral plume
split tide
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Why?

viral plume
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You would have to be an evil

split tide
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is an evil

viral plume
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be based on china

minor ore
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Based

ember light
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or just use slurs until you get 3 warnings

ember light
split tide
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Does black role mean banned or something?

ember light
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it means if you break the rules anymore you get banned

minor ore
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It means close

zenith blaze
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Lol

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Ez no black role

ember light
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Im surprised I havent at least gotten one warning at this point

zenith blaze
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What did you do

ember light
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a little trolling sometimes

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A

minor ore
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Trolling isn’t a rule technically

ember light
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ok Ive had a really long discussion about politics before

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thats against the rules

zenith blaze
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Are the rules implying all words that aren’t banned can be said

minor ore
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yes

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Hmmmmm

hard meteor
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jojolion

zenith blaze
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Yes

ember light
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ok

honest moon
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It’s not working for me rn

minor ore
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Amogus

honest moon
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Gives me error 502, bad getaway

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What the heck is that thefuckisthis

zenith blaze
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Me too

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I can’t get on mangadex

hard meteor
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trishcry down again

zenith blaze
ember light
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mangasee chads dont have that problem

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Ew

split tide
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Mangasee gotta read in black and white like peasants.

zenith blaze
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Let me trap uncensored hayato in your minds

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Doggy style

ember light
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the black and white is better anyway

zenith blaze
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I can’t understand anything in black and white

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M

split tide
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Once I started reading JJBA in color, I could never go back to black and white.

karmic cloak
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i thought people were only saying that ironically

zenith blaze
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milf

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Best milf

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one of the best

zenith blaze
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The best

karmic cloak
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Kaato is the best

split tide
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Lisa Lisa best milf.

zenith blaze
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Irrelevantaato?

karmic cloak
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she will comeback she has to

zenith blaze
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I don’t care for her that much

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I wanna see her stand tho

karmic cloak
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we barely know shit about her stand and what its called

zenith blaze
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The wiki says it puts objects in cards

karmic cloak
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we only know that its cards that can fits things inside but yeah

split tide
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"the wiki says" lmao

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E

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i'm always joking about people reading the wiki instead of reading the actual manga so thats why i thought it was funny

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"no time to read"

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I read it but I can’t go back to the chapters to confirm

karmic cloak
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make sense

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but some people unironically read the wiki pages instead of the manga cause they are too lazy

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why

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E

karmic cloak
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like lazy to experience it for the first time

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bitches can read subs for 100 ish episodes but cant read books lmao how

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Yep