#jojolion

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junior coral
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Yeah

sudden nymph
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Reminder that doctor wu doesn’t fail except for when he does

junior coral
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Reminder that Killer Queen has no weakness except for when he does

sudden nymph
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I want to know if doctor wu was serious about never failing anything in his life

minor ore
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I guess we'll never know

sudden nymph
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Doctor wu died right?

hard meteor
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Yeah he’s dead

mystic finch
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Dead but never fail

low walrus
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You babey

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FUCK

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I MEANT TO SAY YEA

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Sorry

proper hinge
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Hello Mrs. Objectively good.

low walrus
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Oh my fucking godddddd

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Jame

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I hate you

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I like the rest of yall

proper hinge
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I hate me too,

low walrus
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But you are sticking to that unfunny joke

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Even though I have asked you time and time again to stop

proper hinge
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Ok I’ll actually stop cya.

minor ore
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You don't stop tho

low walrus
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yo zach

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did i know u

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i have u blocked for some reason

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idk why tho lol

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i understand perfectly well why i had jame blocked

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but not u

ebon rampart
proper hinge
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What?

low walrus
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yeah

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the fuckis this

sudden nymph
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But why would you do this

proper hinge
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I’m very confused.

tired narwhal
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Is that Hamom beat?

low walrus
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oh god

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please do not bring that bad fella near this good and holy chat

viral plume
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No, it looks like that girl from Ace Attorney

minor ore
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Ngl it does look like Faye Valentine

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@proper hinge @viral plume @minor ore its supposed to be haato

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Oh damn

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And pepe is damo

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yes

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its :boobadamo:

viral plume
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...it looks nothing like haato, but sure, it is a really good drawing

low walrus
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ok now that you have explained the joke it is funny

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i laugh

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ha

frozen charm
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Olly unbanned????

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No way.

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Not real

low walrus
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100% real

minor ore
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99% real

minor ore
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Do you think a Jojolion anime will be possible?

low walrus
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in the year 2069

junior coral
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It’s not happening

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It was confirmed

sudden nymph
junior coral
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I’ve never told a single joke in my life

sudden nymph
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I feel like that’s a lie but I’m too lazy to fact proof that

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So I’ll trust you on that

outer smelt
faint rivet
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Because we will all die before it gets made

low walrus
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realistically we will live to see it

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most of us

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we've got a new season every 2 years on average

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if DP continues this we'll prolly get:

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stone ocean: 2021
steel ball run: 2023
jojolion: 2025
hopefully by 2027 araki will have ended jjl

junior coral
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SBR might take a bit longer

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Horses are more expensive and harder to animate I’ve heard

low walrus
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use real life horses

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edit them in

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nobody will notica

faint rivet
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Live action SBR anime 😳

wind scroll
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I have to say, Yasuho jamming a syringe into her eye was something I did NOT need to see.

minor ore
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What a bad bitch she is

low walrus
minor ore
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thats from the Doctor Wu arc

low walrus
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ah

wind scroll
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Dr Wu does not fail

minor ore
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except when he does

wind scroll
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never

sudden nymph
wind scroll
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WOOOO

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TOMOKI

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never fails.

steady cave
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vitamin c is such a good arc

minor ore
signal mural
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use real life horses
@low walrus Ok but seriously what if they use cgi horses

minor ore
plain sphinx
minor ore
lost slate
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the virgin hamon beat vs the chad aeonstar

faint rivet
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Aeonstar is pretty epic

plain sphinx
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He really is. I just wish he would do vids outside of jojolion which btw are insanely good.

minor ore
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i wish aeonstar would actually do videos

plain sphinx
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True

heavy ledge
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let it die

minor ore
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yup

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let the chat die bros

minor ore
rocky stump
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Wu Tomoki NEVER fails.

minor ore
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stop

crystal ginkgo
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im not getting this, so satoru akefu is wonder of u? so the person named satoru doesn't exist?

lost slate
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He does exist

crystal ginkgo
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so wonder of u is a clone of satoru?

lost slate
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but he might have been killed and impersonated by Tooru

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Not sure about the killing bit, but Tooru definitely impersonated Satoru

low walrus
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we dont know he was impersonated

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could've been absorbed into the stand

crystal ginkgo
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ok so tooru has killed satoru and now the head doctor is a stand? I think rai said that during the battle with de do do do

low walrus
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all we know is:

tooru has a stand called the wonder of u
wonder of u can take on the appearance of satoru akefu
satoru akefu was a real living person at one point in the past
tooru sook out satoru akefu in the past

crystal ginkgo
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jojolion = best part

kind owlBOT
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@crystal ginkgo, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 12 !

lost slate
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That's a pretty good explaination of it

low walrus
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added another point

crystal ginkgo
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why would he do that

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to get hold of locacaca 6251 i presume?

lost slate
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Not sure about his motives yet

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Perhaps he wanted to do research on the Rokakaka to get money... or something

low walrus
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satoru akefu was retired when tooru looked for him

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he wasnt looking for akefu in particular

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he was looking for retired doctors with no family to care about them

crystal ginkgo
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@lost slate he said that locacaca 6251 would get rock humans to the top of society

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somehow

low walrus
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so he likely was just looking for someone to impersonate

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and then he used his new status as "respected doctor" to start the 6521 research

lost slate
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Probably with its effects or the money he gets from it

crystal ginkgo
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@lost slate i think he planned to use the rich to create a conflict

low walrus
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tooru and the other rock people infiltrated the hospital recently

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they weren't yet infilitrated into it when yasuho was a kid

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so i believe it's likely tooru started the 6521 project using his "satooru" persona

crystal ginkgo
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yasuho had a weak manifestation of paisley park as a kid sk she helped tooru in a way

low walrus
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i dont think she did i think she was just good at googling

crystal ginkgo
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@low walrus how would tooru do that knowing he had no medical education?

low walrus
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stands manifest relative to the user's personality

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if yasuho was a google-fu master her stand would manifest similar abilities

crystal ginkgo
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he was an intern but he is no pharmacist

low walrus
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jotaro was a punchy man so he got star platinum

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etc

crystal ginkgo
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i dont know

low walrus
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if he did absorb

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we dont know

crystal ginkgo
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what if he ate a rokakaka

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and made the head doctor eat some of it

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idk

low walrus
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only the new rokakaka has that ability

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and the new rokakaka was not even an idea in kirafumi's heads when he searched out satoru

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he could also be posing as a medical assistant and actually have medical training

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he's hundreds of years old after all

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possibly hundreds

minor ore
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we know that he can impersonate people with his stand and he probably knows a lot of medical info because hes so old or he learned certain facts in the time he was developing in his hive

crystal ginkgo
low walrus
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yeah

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we dont know what he did to satoru though

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gotta wait for new chapter 😔

crystal ginkgo
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probably got rid of him

minor ore
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Damn we still don't know Tooru's motivation for getting the rokakaka yet

hard meteor
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Money

crystal ginkgo
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@minor ore we do know

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he wants to get rock humans to the top of society he said it himself multiple times

low walrus
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well

crystal ginkgo
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he doesn't want money as much as power

low walrus
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the rock people already controlled the rokakaka

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he specifically wants the new rokakaka

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wait no

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nvm

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he doesnt want that

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he wants to work on 6521

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because that can give the healing without the side effects

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which would make it more marketable

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dr wu was working on a similar idea

hard meteor
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He wants both for monetary gain,urban was the only rock human who cared about being on top of society

crystal ginkgo
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@low walrus Dr wu was a member of the rokakaka foundation and tooru was too

low walrus
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i know!!!

crystal ginkgo
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they had the same goal why would they work separately

low walrus
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i didnt say they did

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dr wu was working on using his unique stand to manipulate the rokakaka

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this would likely help them know how to make 6521 only stonify irrelevant parts of the body

hard meteor
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Eh they weren’t exactly the same Wu,Wu was trying to get rokakaka to work for the patients benifiets and change the medical world

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Tooru mainly wants the new rokakaka to work for status and financial power

low walrus
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satooru goes on a big speech about how he also wants to revolutionise medicine

hard meteor
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True but 102 and 103 imply it’s just for personal benefit

minor ore
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oh also another interesting fact, satorus face is always the main one but the moment the opponent is aware of calamity his face changes and becomes the robot thing

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the chat is resurrecting itself the nearer we get to the chapter

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Xd

rocky stump
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when is new chapter

low walrus
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when you join music vc

hard meteor
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17th or 18th

minor ore
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rip

ebon rampart
willow crystal
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That’s cool

minor ore
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Rokakaka I got the rokakaka lmao

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🤲Rokakaka

willow crystal
sudden nymph
willow crystal
minor ore
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Big sex

safe flame
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Part 8.

faint holly
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It's the big man himself.

cedar scaffold
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when does the newest chapter come out

hard meteor
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17th or 18th

inland oyster
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Check Jojo wiki

minor ore
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@inland oyster adum youre mean to new guy 😦

inland oyster
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What

minor ore
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What

minor ore
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I miss Damo every day

near cedar
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I tried to look up a gif of damo dying cuz i saw one once

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All i get is some dude from a teen show or something

minor ore
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sounds cringe

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but seriously, what an arc

low walrus
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oh god

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freds in jojolion chat too

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nowhere is safe

minor ore
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Phew

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My presence is a ward

junior coral
low walrus
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i dont think wonder of u should be green

junior coral
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Me neither

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Just seeing how it looks

near cedar
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he looks iradiated

grizzled pilot
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i kinda like it actually

junior coral
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I like it red

near cedar
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It could look worse lol

low walrus
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i like black wonderofu

near cedar
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Make it pink

grizzled pilot
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black is fine but greens not bad either

near cedar
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I wanna see how shit that'll look

junior coral
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Red and gold are baller but yeah b&w is the best

sudden nymph
minor ore
junior coral
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Love her

faint rivet
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Wish we saw more of her

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And we might

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But, like with Kaato, I don't think she will do anything too major if she returns

near cedar
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Kills Tooru

faint rivet
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I dunno how karera could kill Tooru but I guess we'll see

elfin pollen
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JoJolion is so good

junior coral
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Fr

hard meteor
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facts

elfin pollen
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Waffle josuke vs emo josuke

junior coral
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??

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Which one is emo

faint rivet
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Me

elfin pollen
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Which one is emo
Part 8

hard meteor
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Part 8 josuke isn’t emo

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That’s the wrong word for his character

elfin pollen
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Hold on I can fix it

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Waffle vs Amnesia boy

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There we go

twilit basin
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He's a man of the sea

elfin pollen
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I think josuke I better then josuke

kind owlBOT
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@elfin pollen, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

elfin pollen
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Josuke part 8 is the only jojo to has been arosed by a woman

minor ore
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no

elfin pollen
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Bet

minor ore
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black entertainment television?

ember light
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Broadcast Energy Transmitter

sudden nymph
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???

ember light
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building effective teamwork

elfin pollen
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Oh and josuke has 4 balls

clever island
willow crystal
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Xd

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It’s not like that joke has been made a million times Already

sturdy fossil
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lmao missed completely the issue from last month, I was getting weirded out why there was such a gap between chapters lol

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and about to ask if there was any explanation. turns out it was me who just didnt see it

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still, next issue should be soon right?

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damn, the chapter I missed was really cool

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that was a born this way joke

junior coral
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There’s a hiatus usually twice a year

sturdy fossil
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ok sheesh

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thanks

minor ore
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Does anyone have that "unsolved Jojolion mysteries" image

grizzled pilot
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i dont think i unpinned it

minor ore
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Ah

elfin pollen
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This is the best part

minor ore
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So
-the Kei thing needs to be subtracted as the absence in the picture was just a red-herring/the people saying its because its Tsurugi's image of his family in his head were right
-I figure the hair clip was an insect kept by Uu considering it created a similar effect to his stand but in other people, or maybe just by the doctors in general, maybe at Tooru's behest even to further control and keep tabs on Yasuho (which ultra makes him a groomer btw)
-About the Josefumi birthmark thing, its worth noting you only ever see Josefumi's birthmark once (in a photo) and Kira's 2-3 times and its always on the same separate design of himself. During Vitamin C we never see either of their birthmarks.

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that last bit is important because I see people call out Josefumi's birthmark a lot

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but its not like we see Kiras either

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We only seem to see Kira's during "memories" of what he looks like rather than on panel or in some hard evidence a character possesses

grizzled pilot
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its so weird tho

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cause all the epic araki forgot memes aside, he's generally very good at keeping the joestar family tree straight

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not perfect but at least in-story

minor ore
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he's left it so he can literally do whatever he wants at any point concerning their bloodline

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because of the nature of the book Gappy read

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where it only named eldest sons

grizzled pilot
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yeah

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but the birthmarks

minor ore
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oh the birthmarks

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yeah, I just reread JJL recently and considered that

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you see it on him here

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and right before this too when you first find out he still has KQ

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but the way he looks during Vitamin C is the first design you see in the photo Ojirou has

grizzled pilot
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right...

minor ore
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and you never see that design with a birthmark

grizzled pilot
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gah. what does it all MEAN

minor ore
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so uh, SBR is the part I remember the least tbh, but Ive seen people say you dont see Johnny's birthmark

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the wall eyes are pogging behind him, thats the key to the mystery

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is that true or false?

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like you'd be able to see both their marks at this angle right, they're facing in nearly the same way

📎 maxresdefault_4.jpg
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I've said this before as a thing to be aware of, what if Araki drew this wrong, and meant to put the birthmark on kira but got confused

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but then he proceeded to draw both of them without their birthmarks showing at all for like multiple chapters after this

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and he draws Gappy's all the time

grizzled pilot
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you never see johnny's birthmark, nah

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but all his known descendants have it

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you never see josuke (diu)'s either, for what it's worth

minor ore
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I didnt recall that about Josuke btw

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that one was truly genuinely dropped

elfin pollen
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I love part 8 josuke

patent merlin
hollow epoch
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Joshu

void osprey
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i haven't read jjl in a long while, i dropped it on chptr 7 because of school ,and i decided to reread it ,

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and i love Gappy and Yasuho's relationship

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"Hey, Yasuho~~~ ,look over here! Oooo , whats that ?"
"Hmm?" turns
turns to the [GUY FROM THE ROOM ABOVE]"QUIT BULLSHITTING ME YOU LITTLE SHIT-"

plain sphinx
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Oh nice. I also reread the first few chapters and they are a lot of fun. Gappy and Yasuho are already great.

twilit basin
sudden nymph
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I like the entire cast of part 8

twilit basin
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i don't like joshu

sudden nymph
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I like him

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He’s hilarious

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And also his character’s writing is amazing and some of Araki’s best work I can go into more detail about it if you want

hollow epoch
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I don't like how people call him autistic

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To me he just seems like a funny haha character

twilit basin
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his little nub arm lmao

near cedar
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Not even thinking of the first guy you think I'm thinking of

sudden nymph
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His writing is amazing we know so much about him (more than most jojo characters) and all of it is done through very basic sounding dialogue. Also I love the connection to his stand probably my favorite connection to a stand besides moody blues

minor ore
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I don't like Diya or whatever

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I hate her

twilit basin
minor ore
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Wh

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He's not perfect but how can you say that

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"it's not that great"

twilit basin
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actually it's not really good even

minor ore
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Epic reddit amongus reference sus

near cedar
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Da faq

twilit basin
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i like tooru

minor ore
twilit basin
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my boi

minor ore
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"say that again to my face"

willow crystal
twilit basin
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you've been rewriting the same manga for 20 years araki

minor ore
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Uh

near cedar
twilit basin
sudden nymph
# twilit basin Araki's writing isn't that great

That’s not a comback to that statement, you can have your own opinion on stuff that’s fine but you have to give reasons on to why you think that specific writing is bad or else you are just saying stuff for no reason

twilit basin
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uhh

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😂

sudden nymph
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You can’t just say his writing isn’t good without saying why is what I’m trying to say

minor ore
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Yeah what they said

near cedar
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Makes you look

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Like u just trolling

twilit basin
hard meteor
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Jojo fan moment

twilit basin
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i'm being honest

near cedar
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K so give your reasoning

minor ore
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@twilit basin stop sipping water you thirsty

sudden nymph
willow crystal
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I don’t think Jojolion and phantom blood are the exact same

minor ore
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Ye

hard meteor
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“Araki writing bad”
“Why”
“Uhhhhhhhh cuz bad”

minor ore
sudden nymph
near cedar
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Isn't 6ix9ine that one shitty rapper who's in jail

sudden nymph
twilit basin
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every jojo part since 3 uses the same formula tbh

willow crystal
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It’s okay to criticize manga but you need reasonings beside “it’s just bad”

twilit basin
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same part

near cedar
willow crystal
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Stands are more unique than ham on

minor ore
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@twilit basin you are a troll 100%

willow crystal
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Since stands can be literally anything

twilit basin
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i like stands

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i have a love hate relationship with both jojo and fate

sudden nymph
willow crystal
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😾

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Mfw

twilit basin
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i never cared if my opinion mattered to you

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if it doesn't matter why are you asking me to clarify instead of ignoring me

minor ore
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Yes parts 3,5 and 7 have the problem of the "monster of the week" formula but you cant say that for the whole series

near cedar
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Ignores 4

willow crystal
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😹

minor ore
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And 4!

willow crystal
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😹😹😹

sudden nymph
near cedar
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Also monster of the week isn't a problem

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Why does everyone call it a problem

minor ore
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It gets a bit boring that's all

twilit basin
near cedar
minor ore
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Sheesh @twilit basin

twilit basin
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everything after part 5 gets a bit boring tbh

near cedar
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After?

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Lol

kind chasm
twilit basin
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in the middle of a tooru fight araki writes a flashback... yikes

minor ore
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Part 5 was boring but I can't say nothing like that for other parts

minor ore
twilit basin
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totally kills any tension

near cedar
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Oh no how dare he give is backstory

minor ore
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Yes that's how cliffhangers are made

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And exposition

twilit basin
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flashbacks are a pretty crappy way to give backstory

willow crystal
near cedar
willow crystal
minor ore
sudden nymph
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A flashback is way better than exposition

twilit basin
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you just tell the story normally and maybe don't interrupt a tense fight with a flashback

near cedar
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Huh

minor ore
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"well instead of a flashback, he'd have the characters just talk!!!!!"

twilit basin
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yeah it's called telling a story

sudden nymph
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That would be actually stupid

willow crystal
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But this is manga

hard meteor
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The fight wasn’t even interrupted when the flashback started

twilit basin
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not exposition

near cedar
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A story that is just a straight line is boring

minor ore
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@twilit basin it's not your boring ass real life

twilit basin
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but like actually just show the events

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lol

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a personal attack?

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did i upset you?

near cedar
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You did it first lul

willow crystal
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Monkey 🐒

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Ooh ooh ah ah

minor ore
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A persuit may i say brapp brapp

near cedar
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Calling people stoopid with a gif

willow crystal
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Gif

twilit basin
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it was just a picture of 69

willow crystal
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Gif

twilit basin
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it's the first one if you search his name

minor ore
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Sex in server cringe

willow crystal
twilit basin
near cedar
twilit basin
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see? it's the first one

minor ore
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Here we go again

hollow epoch
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Mfw someone disagrees with metrishgun

twilit basin
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mfw when someone gets angry around me

willow crystal
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Grrrr

minor ore
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@hollow epoch they are not giving a reason for their opinion tho

hollow epoch
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I'm not siding with anyone

willow crystal
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I’m siding with Araki cause his work is genius

sudden nymph
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And the things they are saying are at most minor problems

minor ore
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See it's such a shit take that they can't defend it and don't know what good writing is

near cedar
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Da faq is ur favourite anime then fan of shitty rapper?

willow crystal
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They gone

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😹😹😹😹

junior coral
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What’s the problem here

twilit basin
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hmm

kind owlBOT
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@twilit basin, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 9 !

junior coral
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Someone with a bad opinion I gather

twilit basin
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i'm not sure

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kaiji's pretty good

willow crystal
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I bet your favorite anime is konosuba 😹😹😹

minor ore
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@junior coral they have a bad opinion that they are not giving a reason to

junior coral
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What was it though

minor ore
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That araki is a bad writer

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me watching this

sudden nymph
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That’s Araki’s writing is bad

twilit basin
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see you dudes busy rn

minor ore
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@twilit basin I bet your fav anime is updog

willow crystal
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Hahaha

twilit basin
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@minor ore it's kaiji

minor ore
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Huu

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Fuck

near cedar
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Shitttalking Konosuba

willow crystal
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Sorry 😞

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It just seems to be boobs and ass

junior coral
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How

willow crystal
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6ix9ine said it

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Not Zach

junior coral
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Yeah I know, what’s the context

willow crystal
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None

sudden nymph
heavy ledge
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let it die

willow crystal
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Let it die

near cedar
willow crystal
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Let it shrivel up and die

minor ore
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Let it die

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Root cause defeated

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Chat dead

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Again

willow crystal
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Dead xd

sudden nymph
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lol dead chat

willow crystal
hard meteor
minor ore
willow crystal
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Bruh there’s this one guy I know and he hates Giorno because he thinks Giorno is a Gary Stu

minor ore
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A what?

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Let it die

willow crystal
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It means like a perfect character

inland oyster
#

no memes

minor ore
#

Yuhuh

willow crystal
#

Adum

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Do you know who Joe is?

near cedar
#

A character who has everything handed to them and doesn't work for Jack shit

willow crystal
#

But Giorno does work

near cedar
#

Male version of Merry sue

willow crystal
#

He worked to get the arrow

minor ore
near cedar
#

Bruh

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I'm just explaining the term

minor ore
#

i know you're not saying that

near cedar
#

Ah

minor ore
#

i'm just saying if someone thinks that it's bullshit

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literally the entirety of part five is giorno working for his dream

near cedar
#

Anyway like Ray from Star Wars, there's a Marry Sue

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Merry marry?

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Tf is the spelling

sudden nymph
willow crystal
#

I like Giorno he’s kinda cool

near cedar
#

Gio a bitch

willow crystal
#

😢

near cedar
#

He has a few good af scenes

willow crystal
#

Baby Face

near cedar
#

But I don't like him

willow crystal
#

Only chads talk about part 5 in the Jojolion server

minor ore
#

And you are not one of them

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So shut up

willow crystal
#

😢

minor ore
#

😊

willow crystal
#

Why so mean to me 💔

minor ore
#

Because epic

sudden nymph
#

Yes

minor ore
willow crystal
#

💔

junior coral
#

(Totally real)

hard meteor
#

109% real

minor ore
#

It even has closed eye like joske!!!

sudden nymph
#

Definitely real

#

You can tell because Gappy is there

minor ore
#

Bruh i saw an instagram page where a person posted an image of a thus spoke rohan kishibe character and claimed it was the main villian of jojolion Zacha Kugo and a lot of people actually fell for it 😢

sudden nymph
#

Hahahahahaha

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It was a troll right?

minor ore
#

yes

minor ore
#

99% laer

junior coral
#

89?

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No way 89

minor ore
#

Nooooo wayyy in fuck

#

It would be a cold day in hell

junior coral
#

i forgot you can't post memes here

#

hellscape

main nebula
#

FUNNY MEME

#

BOTTOM TEXT

minor ore
#

shit up

sudden nymph
#

Ah my favorite animal popsicle sticks

minor ore
#

Haha music refrence

void osprey
#

Is the phone GPS stand/hacker dude in Chapter 13-14 ever revealed ?

junior coral
#

??????!!!!!!!!

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Do you mean Paisley Park???!!??

void osprey
#

wait w h a t

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Yasuho's stand ?

junior coral
#

....

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Yeah

void osprey
#

I'm reading at Chapter 14-

junior coral
#

Man

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Why would you come over and asking about something that you just found out

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Read and you’ll see

void osprey
#

Makes sense-

minor ore
near cedar
#

i can't rly explain

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I just don't like him

minor ore
#

hello

#

but you like other paper thin characters who are blonde and associated with the color blue?

near cedar
#

i relate to her

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In some ways

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And she isn't boring

minor ore
#

I dont know, she sure gets verbally fucked in Zero and never recovers

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||I havent finished Fate/Stay tho||

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hey wait, I didnt call her boring

#

So you think Giorno is boring?

near cedar
#

most of the time

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He only wasn't boring in a few fights (mostly cuz hype)

void osprey
#

I dont dislike Giorno,

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But I just

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Enjoyed it more while other characters were on screen-

#

Mainly Narancia and Mista

near cedar
#

Bruno feels like the main protagonist half the time

minor ore
#

Giorno is meant to be supporting the story of those around him so that makes sense

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Its like how you could see the Pucci and Dio relationship actually benefiting Pucci's story in the end of it all

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like everything happened so Pucci could do what he did

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nvm tbh, I dont know how to explain what Im trying to explain without taking like 30 minutes to talk about fate and that nonsense

slow thicket
vocal stag
hard meteor
minor ore
#

Very chad

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7000 yen shoes destroying millions of dollars of locacaca

faint holly
#

If that is canon, then this is also canon.

radiant dune
#

where do i read jojolion colored chapters on tachiyomi?

junior coral
#

Use mangadex

radiant dune
#

you're a lifesaver @junior coral p

junior coral
#

Lol mangadex is the go-to

#

Also colored JoJolion is stuck on chapter 70

#

Translations haven’t come out yet for 71-94 in color

#

You’re able to read everything up to 103 tho in monochrome so it’s gucci

twilit basin
sudden nymph
#

There is literally no reason to use that emote lol

#

That’s like me randomly posting a furret emoji

twilit basin
faint rivet
#

Random markiplier gif ytrollface

low walrus
#

technically related to jojolion

sudden nymph
faint rivet
#

I've got Araki's book, and it has some pages of jojolion that have been translated to English

#

So we have official English jojolion 🥴

hard meteor
#

pog

faint rivet
#

It also happens to be the pages of Joshu's first appearance 🥴

proper hinge
#

Yuck.

hard meteor
#

wdym "yuck"

proper hinge
#

I mean, I saw the word, “Joshu’s” and thought yuck.

hard meteor
#

Tsk tsk

sudden nymph
#

Joshu is the best character in fiction ngl

hard meteor
#

Hope the joshu haters see the light one day

faint rivet
#

Bad dude, good character

sudden nymph
hard meteor
#

Yee^

faint rivet
#

He's a character made for people to hate

sudden nymph
#

He’s also just hilarious

faint rivet
#

Yeah he's a funny guy

sudden nymph
#

Shakedown road and milagro man are my favorite filler fights in jojo just because Joshu is hilarious

frozen charm
simple kraken
#

yeah fr joshu is peak fiction

proper hinge
#

Good.

hard meteor
sudden nymph
#

He looks like he’s about to ask Gappy if he has any drugs

twilit basin
#

Joshu's lame af

left ferry
#

Yee yee cut man

sudden nymph
twilit basin
#

it's objective fact joshu is lame

#

if you give jojo to 100 random people 100 will say joshu sucks

minor ore
#

Tbh I don’t think joshu sucks

#

I just think he could have been a little less joshu

#

Just a little less

gritty thicket
#

In 100 people 101 thinks joshu sucks

twilit basin
#

he's not even a proper character

gritty thicket
#

Joshu is the comic relief that no one asked

sudden nymph
gritty thicket
sudden nymph
minor ore
#

Joshu is a good character if you see him in a different light. But overall his morals are not too good

sudden nymph
#

Imo Joshu is a bad person but a good character

twilit basin
#

that's not what makes a good character...

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he's boring as shit

#

not even funny

gritty thicket
#

A

#

Greed

sudden nymph
#

Ok whatever you can have that opinion but I personally think it’s wrong

minor ore
#

Well I think to appreciate a character you have to take a deeper look into them and when you kinda consider joshu, looking in deeper is the best choice

twilit basin
#

deeper

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lol

#

he's just an archetypal character and not even a good one

sudden nymph
twilit basin
#

tell me what's so deep about him then

sudden nymph
#

His connection with his stand for one thing

minor ore
#

You have to consider the type of household he grew up in and everything he was surrounded by. Also look at his entire family they are all perverted in some ways

sudden nymph
minor ore
#

Him acting out could be from just craving attention

low walrus
#

joshu is an evil bastard man and as a person i hate him

twilit basin
#

right.. "could"

low walrus
#

but he is a good character

minor ore
#

And maybe his obsession with yasuho is a drawback to his mom being absent

#

You just need to consider things like that when looking at him

low walrus
#

to be fair he is like

twilit basin
#

@sudden nymph enlighten me boyo

low walrus
#

the least psycho higashikata

#

after daddy higashikata

#

hes just regular incel insane

#

not "i will literally steal your fucking soul and put it in a chess piece" insane

#

or "im gonna melt your skin" insane

gritty thicket
#

Jooshu is just cheap okyasu

minor ore
#

If you take every character you see by face value, I feel like you’re not enjoying the character in full and that is where I rest my case

gritty thicket
#

Same "strong stand stupid user" thing

twilit basin
#

he sucks ass tbh

sudden nymph
#

If you don’t think he can do something good he saved Yasuho’s life two times

twilit basin
#

he didn't save her to do something "good

#

he did it because he wanted to be together with him

minor ore
#

Writing off a character as bad because you haven’t even tried looking into him is kinda dumb IMO

twilit basin
#

in fact from his perspective saving her was a big mistake

#

since she doesn't love him

#

what makes you think i haven't looked into him

low walrus
#

joshu as a person is bad

#

terrible

#

but he is an interesting chracter

twilit basin
#

you're all just saying lines without being specific

low walrus
#

and one of the funniest in part 8

#

its like DIO

#

good character bad man

#

or valentine

#

or pucci

sudden nymph
slow thicket
#

I don’t really like Puccini tho

twilit basin
#

sounds like you just like silly charismatic characters, not that that's a bad thing. it's a better reason than because you think they're "good"

slow thicket
#

Pucci*

low walrus
#

i like characters that are either 3 dimensional or bring something unique

twilit basin
low walrus
#

joshu brings the unique "what if a little coward pissbaby was a main character" angle to jojos

twilit basin
#

what do you mean by 3 dimensional?

low walrus
#

like

#

not just a one note character

#

with actual depth

sudden nymph
low walrus
#

like pucci isnt just an insane world reset man

#

he has reasons for doing what he does

#

he actually wants to help people

#

he has history with weather

#

valentine isnt just a power hungry madman

twilit basin
low walrus
#

he wants to improve the lives of his people

#

joshu isnt some shithead richboy who wants the rokakaka for cash money

sudden nymph
low walrus
#

he wants to save his kid no matter the cost

mystic finch
#

Toru just needs money i think

low walrus
#

tooru just wants money yeah

#

but his stand is unique as fuck so he gets the "unique" excuse

twilit basin
minor ore
#

In terms of joshu on a line he is neither left nor right he is off the line. He is neither good nor bad but he brings a narrative to the story that is different. Looking at him through a good light, you will see he is good and has good qualities. Looking at him through the bad light will see his bad qualities.

twilit basin
sudden nymph
slow thicket
#

Has part 8 even killed someone off? (Don’t say who)

minor ore
#

Yes

low walrus
twilit basin
#

tooru is not just after money tbh

low walrus
#

fuck not joshu

#

the uhh

#

jobin

twilit basin
#

he's an anti-social boyo

low walrus
#

why they all called jo in that house

#

its bullshit

twilit basin
#

he is insecure because due to his age people don't take him seriously

low walrus
#

yeah actually

twilit basin
#

so he wants to get the rokakaka to validate himself

low walrus
#

and he also wants to advance the medical field

twilit basin
#

that's consequential

low walrus
#

personal reasons are his main factor

#

but he does also like the fact hes improving medicine

slow thicket
#

that girl with that baby stand she is the worst character in jojos

sudden nymph
low walrus
#

its already 5:30 here

twilit basin
#

nothing wrong with arguing

slow thicket
#

6:22 here

mystic finch
#

Honestly i dont like joshu in anyway but when hes on chapters/panels we never get bored

low walrus
#

yeah what aimbot said

#

as a person i hate him

#

but when hes in panel im not reading to get to the good bits

#

the milagro man arc was fucking hilarious

twilit basin
#

even hegel said that you have to look at the opinions of those you don't like to find truths that you'd overlook on your own

slow thicket
twilit basin
#

it's bad to just dismiss the other side

#

you'll never grow as a person that way

low walrus
#

joshuphobes doe 😠

twilit basin
#

i hate joshu

low walrus
#

me when i see joshuphobe

mystic finch
#

Hes just troll

twilit basin
#

lame af

mystic finch
#

Like look at his face

sudden nymph
# twilit basin nothing wrong with arguing

I never said there was anything wrong with arguing I like debating I just think an argument where we both know are opinions aren’t going to change is pointless plus it’s 12:23 AM here and I really want to go to sleep

twilit basin
#

look at joshu's cut g

slow thicket
#

Let’s get the obvious out of the way

#

HAIR

low walrus
#

like i said before, joshu is a cowardly little pissbaby asshole who has no redeeming factors

slow thicket
#

Why

low walrus
#

and i love him for it

slow thicket
twilit basin
sudden nymph
#

Good night glad it ended on a better note then what I thought it would

twilit basin
#

jojo's too formulaic tbh

#

araki needs to learn to write a damn story

#

he writes like an AI

slow thicket
#

What if there was a stand ability that if he touches you he disables your stand ability?

twilit basin
#

Too strong i think

slow thicket
#

Same with Tooru tho

low walrus
slow thicket
#

Toru*

twilit basin
#

Nah you can still use your stand you just can't follow him

#

Even the rock paper scissors kid needed to beat you 3 times to take your stand

#

It'd be OP

slow thicket
#

No Toru has an op stand too is what I meant

twilit basin
#

Only stuff like the world could beat it

#

He does and doesn't

#

He can't be aggressive with it

slow thicket
#

Yeah just beat the Kid to death

low walrus
twilit basin
#

Despite how strong it is if people don't care or get angry about what he does he's powerless

#

Like a troll

slow thicket
#
  1. Use the world
  2. Beat the kid to death
  3. WIN
twilit basin
# low walrus no seriously can u elaborate on this point

I just wish he would write things more naturally, writing is supposed to have things unfold naturally so things can be cathartic in the end. And you can almost predict a lot of stuff araki does "muh opposite ideal villain" and crap like this

#

The world really is the strongest stand

slow thicket
#

GER*

low walrus
slow thicket
#

Like when f.f died you mean?

twilit basin
#

I actually liked FF arc

#

What i dislike i guess is how it's delivered

#

Tooru's flashback was a bad offender in my eyes

low walrus
#

the 1-5 villains all suck tbh

#

theyre one note

#

pucci and valentine are really interesting tho

twilit basin
#

Like it disrupted the flow of things, it set up the character and even though what it had to say wasn't bad nobody liked it

slow thicket
#

The f.f death just straight up came out of nowhere

low walrus
#

1!dio: aaa i want to control the world
kars: aaa i want to control the world now that im the ultimate lifeform
DIO: aaa i want to control the world with my new sick stand
kira: i want to kill people for their hands
diavolo: aaa i want to control italy

twilit basin
#

i liked FF death

#

i think the strong point of jojo is the fights

slow thicket
#

I mean I got sad

low walrus
#

yeah FF death was a legit jaw dropping moment

#

like

slow thicket
#

It was a shock

low walrus
#

everything looks good

#

and then

#

FOO IS DEAD

twilit basin
#

but like even though the themes are delivered poorly, they're still thought out really well

low walrus
#

ANNASUI IS BLEEDING OUT

#

WHAT THE FUCK

twilit basin
#

and more nuanced than other series

#

but they're still delivered poorly i think

#

yeah

low walrus
#

6ix you gotta go more in detail about how things are poorly delivered

twilit basin
#

a lot of things people wont notice is that pucci's beliefs are based off real life religious ideas called Gnosticism

#

if you hear what gnostics have to say they think this world is one created by an evil "god" and that it's their responsibility to "accelerate" it's destruction

#

even to get the green baby he does a gnostic chant

low walrus
#

thats the opposite of pucci's beliefs

twilit basin
#

but the fights in part 6 all suck ass

low walrus
#

wtf

#

pucci is a devout christian lmao

slow thicket
low walrus
#

he genuinely believes he can create heaven on earth

#

and he tries his best to do so

twilit basin
#

i know

low walrus
#

which is the opposite of the gnostic shit you're saying

twilit basin
#

what he wants to do is have everyone know their future

low walrus
#

yes

twilit basin
#

basically to get rid of "free will"

low walrus
#

that's, to him, what heaven would be

twilit basin
#

it's the same as returning to the garden of eden

#

but in practice what he's doing is the same as Gnosticism

#

by destroying free will

#

he is taking away the possibility of disappointment and betrayal

low walrus
#

yes

twilit basin
#

but also taking away the possibility for people to find happiness and surpass their limits

low walrus
#

yeah

#

thats the whole thing with him

twilit basin
#

yeah i know

low walrus
#

his idea of heaven is because he's a broken man

#

and it's hell to most people

twilit basin
#

but there's clearly nihilstic gnostic references painted all over his character

#

because someone who thinks like that

#

is nihilistic

#

they don't believe in hope

#

they think that if you try you will fail

low walrus
#

pucci doesn't believe that for certain

#

but he's terrified of the possibility that he could

#

because after he got his brother and sister killed trying to save them from themselves because of information he had no way of knowing he became terrified of uncertainty

twilit basin
#

yeah and he'd rather have no free will than uncertainty

low walrus
#

yeah!

#

that's his motivation!

twilit basin
#

araki understands themes really well, probably better than most mangaka

#

but i wish he'd deliver them better

#

a lot of times characters just stand there and just talk all of this out

junior coral
#

Olly is right

low walrus
#

that's a limitation of manga though

#

the characters have to talk a lot

twilit basin
#

it's a visual medium too

#

and books that are just words have the deepest history

#

that's no excuse

low walrus
#

yeah and he does a good job of conveying some stuff in visual

#

books can describe what's in someone's head

#

manga can do that

#

but in a visual medium it's more awkward to do so

#

because you kinda just have to freeze and have them talk in their head

elfin tangle
#

Books don't have the burden of having to draw visuals to go with shit. Novels just have to describe everything without needing to worry about how things will look in motion

low walrus
#

like a book can have multiple pages of what a character is thinking

twilit basin
#

regardless of the medium i think you have to show things through actions not just them explaining their beliefs

elfin tangle
#

^^^

low walrus
#

having the same panel repeated over and over with new text over it

#

would be really fucking boring and bad

obsidian jacinth
#

joe the lion

junior coral
#

Yeah but you can see Pucci’s motivation in everything he does

#

It’s the whole point of his backstory

elfin tangle
#

Despite Jojo explaining stuff a lot. The characters do act out what they believe in and do, not just talk

twilit basin
#

ehh not quite

#

i guess you'd have to see the way other series deliver things

low walrus
#

pucci lives in a prison for a reason

#

it's an incredibly orderly place

#

you know what time people are gonna go up

twilit basin
#

i think it's more a problem of story telling

low walrus
#

you know what time they'll go to bed

elfin tangle
#

Jojo doesn't have to do what other series do

tulip anvil
#

Why don't you let it die already

twilit basin
#

definitely not due to some limitation in manga

low walrus
#

you know what they're gonna do each day

#

it's pucci's ideal enviroment

#

and i think thats a really neat way of showing his character in the way he lives

twilit basin
#

it is

#

but i wish jojo had more of that

elfin tangle
#

As long as shit is engaging and there's a moving plot, it shouldn't matter at all. And Jojo needs to have the characters explain stuff, look at how stupid the fanbase is with the base product we have

low walrus
#

truee

#

we need a second chapter for every chapter explaining in detail whats happening

twilit basin
junior coral
#

Well no

low walrus
#

cuz we're all collectively fucking idiots

junior coral
#

That’s quite evident

low walrus
#

he's lived in the prison for YEARS

elfin tangle
#

A lot of the audience can't even follow what's explained on screen. Not having the characters explain what they do in a series as bizarre as Jojo is a recipe for desire.

low walrus
#

foo fighters lived in the same pond for many years guarding his DISC collection

junior coral
#

Could be the other thing that you mentioned but I’m saying what’s been told

elfin tangle
#

You just can't do that

low walrus
#

it worked out conveniently for his plan regarding jolyne

#

but he lived in the prison for many many years

junior coral
elfin tangle
#

Other series make it work because a lot of them don't have a lot of the nonsense Jojo displays. And the bits of explanation make the series what it is

junior coral
#

Wasn’t that many years

twilit basin
low walrus
#

again

#

wiki as a primary source bad

#

please link the thing it links

twilit basin
#

heh

junior coral
#

Man you should do your own research too

elfin tangle
low walrus
#

bro you cant link me a screenshot of a plaintext paragraph with no sources

#

and be like "checkmate"

twilit basin
#

agreed

junior coral
#

I’m gonna continue to prove you wrong then

twilit basin
#

greeny sus

low walrus
#

your username says "tw: facts" but all im seeing is plaintext stuff

#

i could do this in inspect element

#

actually i will one sec

junior coral
#

Yeah but I’m not cheating to win an argument mate wtf

#

The wiki is the most reliable source because where tf else is it gonna say this shit

twilit basin
#

if you're going to make a point the burden of evidence is on you. you can't just tell someone "go research lmao"

low walrus
#

^^

twilit basin
#

wiki is all fax

low walrus
#

100% real

#

no fake

twilit basin
#

primary source

low walrus
#

you cant be linked tho

junior coral
#

Wtf kind of argument is this

low walrus
#

greeny

#

please

junior coral
#

The wiki has nothing to do with it

low walrus
#

if youre gonna say shit

#

cite sources

elfin tangle
#

Don't use that

#

Ever

low walrus
junior coral
#

And you can clearly see that I didn’t fucking cheat

low walrus
#

greeny

#

you see that little [7]

#

in your screenshot

#

click it

#

and send us the link it takes you to

junior coral
#

I’m fucking aware of that

sudden nymph
#

Hey I’m back I can’t fall asleep

junior coral
#

It tells you the chapter it’s from

low walrus
#

hi bingus man

sudden nymph
#

I am Bingus man

twilit basin
low walrus
#

6am here

#

sleep is for the weak

sudden nymph
low walrus
#

im arguing about jojo characters 😎

twilit basin
#

😎

junior coral
twilit basin
#

coincidentally it's friday for me too

sudden nymph
#

Well I guess it’s technically Saturday

#

Now

low walrus
#

it just says he's been there for a long time

#

and intentionally chose the prison

junior coral
#

“He chose to place himself at Green Dolphin Street Prison”