#jojolion
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I like it
I'm excited to get into all the multiverse stuff later on
hey fellas you know that jojolion thing? Let's talk about that instead
it's canon
Can someone get that one picture I can’t find it
i was looking for it too
look up images that I've sent
Me waiting for a mod to say #other-series
there it is
@inland oyster can you pin this it’s really important
no
I understand
Fist image I've ever sent
fist image
It’s beautiful
the only ships i support are canon ones like josuke x yasuho and josuke x joshu
Will they have a threesome?
absolutely not
So Gappy is cheating on Joshu ah ok
It's very important to this channel
4 balls. That is all I'm going to say. I have no hints to part 8, i have nothing else to tell you. It is over, 4 balls, am I right. Do not ask me because, all I will tell is 4 balls, good day to you. Your wondering why I'm saying 4 balls, but I'm going to say 4 balls again and torture you will the anticipation of whats the meaning of "4 balls". "Part 8 and the absurd 4 balls curfuffle", why does he have it, I'll leave that to you
thanks for sending that again
Copypasta
No i made that
Oh you did?
Put that unfunny copypasta in #manga-jojokes where it belongs
That was entirly made by me
still a copy pasta
balls
Now that I’m thinking about it it’s been a while since someone came into this channel just to say 4 balls
Balls, am i right
That’s good
#4balls
2x2 balls
2+2 balls
Guys
4 balls
can I get my funny trophy now
Damn, thats funny
I single handily reinvented comedy
4BALLS is the best
Xd
I see u guys are interested in joshu x josuke so i remind you next week is held the jojolion crackship week
Can I post my Joshu x Gappy furry fan fiction
Yes
Chapter 104 leak
Oh yeah let's go there
I still wonder why tsurugi healed if he didnt eat the rokakaka
That’s the most image I’ve ever seen
It really is the most image
The flashforward
The rokaka isnt ripe yet and he is cured
And joshu has his arm
Flashback to the future is retconned 😳
I got a question
Not yet well see
How does the roka just decide who to heal?
It doesn't?
It has a brain
not literally decide
but like, why is joshu the one losing his arm and yasuho the one getting it.
Rokakaka is a rock creature 😳
@inland oyster because joshu is not hurt?
let me think of a better example
Nah man he was still in the body bag
Ah
That didn't work
Ok so during the KQ/Vitamin C arc
both josefumi and kira are injured, and Josefumi puts the fruit bits into kira's mouth
How does the fruit 'decide' which to heal? Plot?
same as what part of the body it selects to take away with the regular fruit
its random
@inland oyster i guess it's flow/fate
so plot
Yes
Yeah I think it’s just plot
im content with that answer
In that specific instance yes
Maybe it’s because yasuho ate it
That's the law of the fruit
You gain you give
And now we know it doesn't have to be your own appendages
i cant find any joshu figures : (
They don’t have any jojolion figures besides Gappy and soft and wet
that's sad
I’m sure Joshu will get one when the anime comes out
Joshu is one of the most reacurring side characters in jojo if not the most reacurring I’m sure he will probably get one
Once Jojolion anime comes out we will probably get these as figures
Yasuho
Jobin
Rai
Joshu
Tooru
Norusuke
And also their stands
Yup
I doubt we will get a daiya or Hato figure
We could see a josefumi or Kira 8 figure but I doubt it
They're girls who used stands and show up more than just dying off
They're fairly likely to get figures
They barely do anything, they are the least likely out of all the reacurring characters plus no one are really fans of them
I have never seen a Hato or Daiya fan
They're probably the least likely, yeah, with current Part 8 (even though they might do something later) but it's still likely that they get a figure since they're cute looking females and stand users
Looks at the plenty of fan art with them
And you can easily find several Hato fans in this very chat
Hato and her stand's pretty sick ngl
Haato and the thiccening
I wouldn’t be upset if they got figurines I just think they would prioritize a lot more characters before them
Man if only walking heart was in more than 3 panels
Unless they do something later on
A good amount would be prioritized. Only the other members of the Higashikata family, Josuke, Yasuho, Rai and Tooru would
But yeah, it's still possible that they do something eventually
Yeah I guess
Iwasuke figure highest priority
People weren't expecting Kei after all
Unless Hato does something there is no way on earth we will get a walking heart figure
Walking heart is only in two chapters
one of the chapters it’s in only the last panel I’m pretty sure
California king bed got the shortest arc in the part
If Daiya gets a figure California king bed will most likely be apart of it instead of separate
Like with Joseph and hermit purple
Ngl that stand do be sick
Too fuckin bad it was used once
I wanna see it do more
She will walk up your house and onto your roof
And you can't stop her
Walking crimson
are they really though
Imo Walking heart isn’t that interesting it would be cooler if she could make any regular item longer
It’s probably the least interesting part 8 stand imo
UNTRUE
they are the most unpog stand/user in part 8

even urban monkey man is better
Daiya exists
Hato objectively can't be unpog if she's walking on walls and caring for the chad Joshu
at least daiya actually influenced the plot smh
so did hato
But it's kick stand instead of punch stand
Hato as a character is good but her stand is the least interesting stand in part 8 imo
damo mostly sure, but still
she was used as “ok heres new bad guy” and the only development I got from her character was woah crazy naivety levels here
Hato's okay, especially when her banter with Joshu is fantastic
agreed the sibling banter is amazing
Daiya just doesn't exist outside of a one sided attraction toward Josuke
the joshu/hato scenes are good
I definitely agree with that but not with her stand being cool
her stand is wack
doesn’t even have a chad name like NUT KING CALL
I mean it literally has nut in the name
I like the name of the stand walking heart
Daiya is less pog than Hato, free. Purely for Hato having more of an arc and more dynamics with others.
Plus, Hato does theoretically have potential. Last time I checked, was it confirmed that only Hato's heels are effected by Walking Heart? Because Araki could easily change the stand so it effects more objects that the stand makes contact with
I’ll go check
penis extension stand

@elfin tangle
If the ability was retconned I would like the stand but as of now it’s boring imo
God i need more part 8 content
Jorge Joestar part 2 with jojolion characters
YES
Joshu is the main JoJo lmao
Part 9
Joshu marries Kei and their son is the part 9 protagonist
aint they cousins ?
Don’t think about it
SWEET HOME ALABAMA
They're distant relatives
aka , cousins.
No
yes
They aren’t blood related
they're like third cousins im pretty sure.
It’s just weird
yea
There isn't very much blood relation
Josuke might die
The part started with his birth
bro y'all already shipping joshu and kei
No
It was a joke
26 days and 15 hours till jojolion chapter 104 come out in japan. So if you can read japanese (so not me) your in luck.
really, well then, i am stupid
Lol
they have been since a couple of months
doggy once uploaded it almost instantly and people started to shit on him as people always do
he took the time to explain almost every bubble and why it was translated that way
and the next month the other team started to upload the same time it was the release
Dogpark is hot 🔥🥵
can someone please explain to me how Wonder Of U works
like how hes a stand and a rock human like i dont understand
Check the pins
which pin to be exact
@unkempt mauve, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
might get axolotls soon gonna name them gappy and kira
Honestly Nut king call is better than most stands
nut king call is better than at least half of part 4
Nah I would say even more than half of the part 4 stands since he doesn’t have to touch something to use the ability
at least
@patent merlin, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !
: (
Thank you bingus
😁
De do do do De da da da fandom is dying, like if you eat asbestos
Thank you bingus
Merry Christmas Bingus
Sniff ur asbestos ceilings fam
We wish you a merry Bingmas we wish you a merry bingmas we wish you a merry bingmas and a happy new year
Imagine Araki bingus
Araki bingus
Do you guys think we will see any donuts in jojolion
rai uhh nah I don't think a pastry with a hole in the center will make an appearance in jojo's bizarre adventure part 8: jojolion by hiroko araki
Probably
rai technically counts but he's more of a swiss cheese because he's got multiple holes punched into him
Maybe Hato or Daiya in the next arc? But probably not
The obsession with bingus on this server is out of control!
Bingus is great
chungus>bingus
Wait wait wait a fkin min
Yoshikage kira is johnny joestar's grear great great~~ grandson???!!!!!
yea bro why
How long ‘til next chapter?
1 moth
Apparently Volumes 18-23 will be released in full color on the JoJo App on December 30, which means we'll get colored Tooru and Wonder of U next week
https://t.co/zsO2vBw28x
I can’t wait to see how fucked up Tooru’s palette gonna be
Lets go bois
@mystic finch, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !
wow
For real??????
Yes

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 17 !
@inland oyster wait how? Is the jojo app free?
Is it going to be in English or what?
And isn't the app shutting down in a month?
Ok so
It's not free and it's not translated
Well it doesn't really matter that it's in Japanese
And also someone will inevitably buy and save every single chapter to share with others
18- 23 getting colored?,lets gooooooo
NO FUCKING WAYYYYYYY
I think I own the jojo app. Isn't it getting taken down soon, though?
@junior coral it's like a parting gift ig
it's not hard to get the coloured manga for free anyways
you just need to log in every day to get points
the manga chapters are like 65-75 coins each and i have 100
so i can afford one chapter 🥴
This
yeah someone'll post them online when they come out
@faint rivet predictions?
Uhh
Doctor Wu palette?
Like
What do you think it will be like?
idk but i found this on google
i mean this looks good
Oh also awaking III leaves in color
yep
wou is gonna be silver and gold
can't believe i'm getting excited for colours
Now we just wait a week
Are they going to be bad or are they going to live up to the expectation
Yeah
same
Yeah I would rather it be warm colors
I want it to be green
When an epic funny redditoe says "the upvot stand" LOLOLOL EX DEEEEEEE REEEEEEEE EEPIC WHOLESALE 100
Wholesome Keanu Chungus
Nah green is the worst color
take that back
Ok but it wouldn't look good on A3L
Green is F tier while red is S tier
It's actually the downvote stand the arrows are blue and pointing down
Red giorno is gone
He is dead

🙌 he lives again
i killed you
I had a monster reborn yugioh card on me
I'll do it again
Nah
Ok fine
That was easy
cant wait to see this colored
Ojiro has a 7 pack
Where's the 7th tho 😳
No idea
Didn't Ojiro die tho
It a joke
I know but I was just asking because I didn't remember
He did
Sad
He faked his death and will return again
Ojiro really just entered the true man's world and pulled up to get that fruit
Ojiro deserved to die

i am so happy
Why
you know joshu
Ok
im getting his hair
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
well im gonna do it
It's not gonna be comedy
so?
my barber isnt good enough to do that one
That would be a epic gamer moment
No
Joshu hair is S tier
Mario hair is ss teir
wait what-





ik im not supposed to be here but uh- 😏
Don’t worry the fanfic will definitely be 18+
Can I be in it
Joubin 2
Sure you can be Green Giorno’s roommate who gives him romance advice
Swag
I want a cameo too...
You can be the living room table
I've always wanted to be a living room table
Can I be the store
Green giorno is yet to shut us down
was josuke's bite mark at the beginning ever explained?
Nope
cool
How often do they release new chapters of Jojolion?
its a monthly series
today's episode on the importance of double checking the japanese... I'm sorry everyone. They have the same reading, but it was 斃れる as in to be killed, not 倒れる as in to fall over. https://t.co/hPwcKBbqFJ
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
man
Him having a speech, choosing to fight the Head Doctor despite Mitsuba's warnings and then getting hit by a calamity and gushing blood was too sudden?
lol a'ight
Yeah it’s kinda a lame way to end off his character especially after the thing with norisuke
Is it? Him dying to a major player like Tooru makes a fair amount of sense. Head Doctor was hyped up and Jobin was never the main villain
Bruh
I mean wou isn’t really “The main villain” either but that word doesn’t really mean anything in this story, and I disagree with that last part jobins and josuke where perfect foils to each other each represented both paths the higashikata family could follow and after the moment where he ends up mortally wounding his father and threatening his siblings was perfect setup for a future conflict and that’s why him getting killed off like this sucks
How is WoU not the main villain
That's just you hyping up Jobin a little too much. They foiled each other, but you can be a foil without being a main villain. Look at Diego and Johnny.
Jobin's actions bit him and his own mistakes will just serve as a catalyst for things further going to shit
Wonder of U also personally impacted characters way more than Jobin did
Cause he’s only the villain in one part of the narrative he doesn’t really connect to the other ongoing plot with the higashikata family
Why does he need to
He caused basically all this shit
With his Rokakaka shit, that caused the Damo gang to exist
^^^^
Tooru's the main dude of the rock gang, the rock gang being a consistent problem and what ties into the issues of Part 8 Holy. Making Jobin bigger than Tooru would've been sooo bad imo
Jobin getting a unique death to a big deal like Tooru is better anyway. I prefer his actions fucking him like this, it's way more interesting
Currently yeah he’s the antagonist but I’m not really convinced on him being the overall big bad, that’s why I said “main villain” title didn’t really matter, it’s true he’s heavily involved in yasuhos life and caused rai to end up how he is but eh
NOOOOOOOOOOO
There isn't another main villain candidate
Katoo would be weird cuz then we'd need like 3 chapters of exposition about her motives and shit
Jobins character arc wasn't finished eitherrrrrrrrrrf
kaato goons are DONE for
Ikr
It technically was though?
Daiya main villan
I always confuse Hato and Katoo
ftr unpinned the kaato meme from huss what a shame
Jobin's major thing was fighting for the rokakaka, him dying with victory formerly in sight is the perfect karma
it was pretty spot on
I also can't spell her name
Yoshiteru Kira main villan


idk man I would’ve preferred jobin having to actually face his actions after attacking his dead like that and now being seen as the number 1 enemy of his own family it would’ve made his descent into a villain a lot more powerful but instead he just gets taken out with hairspray and that family conflict is gone
that man prolly dead as a door nail
araki BETTER be trolling
JackSepticEye is dead! 🦀
ty erik
I don't like jobin but he better not be dead
He was already a villain though? There was nothing noble or respectable about Jobin outside of cool factor. The Higashikata family having to suffer as a whole from Jobin's decisions from beyond the grave sounds sick than everything just being pinned onto him and generic state where "Higashikata family entirely turns on Jobin"
What made it fun was how split and how morally wack everyone was. From Mitsuba betraying Yausho, Tsurugi killing an innocent person, all while having everything just be a mess for everyone else involved.
Tsurugi when murder
I would've honestly hated it if the Higashikatas are randomly made good guys that turn on Jobin than just the neutral party they already are
Jobin was a villain from the moment we met him iirc
I don’t think it’s only cool factor alone jobin was in the wrong in his approach but his actions came from a genuine desire to better his family and stop all future sacrifices that’s what what made me like his character,and youre right higashikatas are screwed morally but like not to the extent they would just not have an issue with jobin killing their father, and yeah I know he was already the bad guy from when was introduced I just think him having to actually process how far his actions led to everyone in the family suffering would’ve made him a greater villain
But maybe I just gotta face reality 😔
Of course they had an issue, but the Higashikatas have never been heroes. They never cared for Josuke and his personal struggle. Only Norisuke to an extent actively helped Josuke in an arc without an issue and we've seen what happened to him
I wouldn’t say they never cared for josuke but yeah they where never really active in helping his struggle only norisuke that’s true
Caring for him on a personal level anyway
Daiya sure didn't outside of a shallow crush and I don't remember Hato ever sticking up for Josuke once
Jobin is Jobin, Tsurugi is Tsurugi and Joshu is Joshu
I mean, did they really have a reason? This guy just shows up one day and suddenly dad says ‘Hey this is your new brother, have fun’. The Higashikatas already lacked a decent moral compass so I doubt getting buddy buddy with Gappy immediately was ever possible
Yeah, which is why them being anything other than "neutral" sounds silly
I vaguely remember hato having a moment with josuke discussing kaato but that doesn’t really count
So yeah I guess they’re more neutral to his existence
That could change though
Plus, I like that Part 8 chooses to have no one Josuke can really trust outside of a small group
Damyos defeat/Kaatos appearance is the beginning of the Higashikatas starting to show any sort of vulnerability to Josuke from what I see
Weirdly enough Joshu has shown some caring moments towards Josuke but also doesn’t it’s really weird
Sorta, but he mostly just dismisses or dislikes Josuke. He still shows those tendencies in the recent chapters
Joshu’s lived his life as a spoiled younger brother so jealousy and familial comraderie come into play when it comes to Josuke it looks like
As I’ve been writing my Joshu analysis Ive noticed that his actions have changed a little I think there were three plans that Araki had for him over the course of part 8
Plan 1- An actual rival to Josuke where they would eventually have a stand fight or something. this plan seemed to only be a thing until the end of fun fun fun
Plan 2- I think Joshu was planned to have a redemption at one point in time. this probably ended sometime after milgaro man
Plan 3- Someone who is supposed to be good and bad at the same time or a character who does both good and bad things this seems. This is the current plan
This is all speculation of course I’m not saying this is actually true
Bruh...
Dogpark MISTRANSLATED the chapter recap
This is the correct version...
Oh you already sent it here
Whatevs
That recap didn't mention Mamezuku at all but i know hes dead
My theory was and still is that he is dead but will come back to life
Manifest it
Doesn’t Araki constantly make the point that there’s no way to revive the dead?
Yes and no
Time being reversed has brought characters back
That’s the only instance where someone was actually gone and they came back
True and wasn't that as early as Part 4? Where Araki still wrote shit differently
Yeah, just Araki had a different approach to stuff in comparison to Part 7 and Part 8. Guns are far more formidable in this verse for example
That’s just basic growing as a writer
why do they wear marine clothes in jojlion?
...? have you not read the part
orrr do you just not remember
because why Josuke wears sailor clothes is kinda a big spoiler
tell me
Read the damn part
I can't tell you without spoiling one of the best things in jojolion
No
I was spoiled part 2 and still enjoyed it
You won't understand
It's so hard to explain without context
You will gain absolutely nothing from me telling you
No
tell meeee
Guys don't tell them
tell me
Idc abt spoilers
tell me
I was spoiled part 2 without any explanations either
tell me
johnny boy is not a boat man but still wore it
every time i see jojolion pics I see people with sailor clothes
or marine
We don't know why johnny wore a sailor suit
There's only 3 characters that do
Jojolion is legit the best part
But it's the worst part to talk about to people who haven't read it
Simply because you need context
tell me
You won't understand a thing I say
just tell me
Just read it
:/
His "dad" is a boat man
Homies eat wacky looking fruits together
say no more
People who show up and ask us to spoil them like we’re fucking encyclopedias or something
Christ
Read the damn part if you wanna know
Want something cleared up, I’ll be happy to help
I’m not gonna have a one-sided conversation about lore you know nothing about just so you can check jojo off your dumb list and then move on
Experience the shit for yourself
Either do that or leave us the fuck alone
Nobody here wants to explain shit to you cause you’re too lazy to read a comic book
Want something explained to you half-assed go skim a Wikipedia article
@junior coral they say "oh I don't care about spoilers! I was spoiled on part 2 and still liked it!" And then they return to this server crying that their Jojolion experience was ruined from being spoiled. You asked for it bitch
mf comes here asking to be spoiled just to spread the "araki forgot" meme
Yeah honestly
I skimmed the wiki when I first read, I joined discussions prematurely
It fucked up my experience
I’m never gonna go into JoJo parts 1-7 blind and that makes me upset now lol
I screwed myself over because I was impatient
at least ya got 8
Yes I’m thankful I’m able to read new chapters monthly and discuss it with people
It’s nice experiencing a part of jojo for the first time along with everyone else
There ain’t nothing like it
It’s what makes the monthly build up tolerable
Shit up
Fuck the shut up
up the fuck shut
Shut the fuck on
YOU don’t look like words man!
Bruh if jobin actually is dead then im pretty disappointed
sadge
Tooru is nowhere as well written as Jobin
i mean he was barely introduced 20 chapters ago
Fr.It just sucks to see a chracter being built up for years only to die in the middle of this arc
well its Jojo so
cool stand name as well
speeduu kaing
I certainly wouldn't be very perturbed if he's actually dead, but I'm a little suspicious
@jade granite, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
tooru is a main villain, thus he is nitpicking and biased
him actually being dead atm drastically increases the chance of some reality warp or time bullshit
he wasnt confirmed as main villain tho
just cause the endless calamity is so fucking long that dosent means its him
also we dont really need a main villain tbh
Yeah fools what if Araki doesn't want a main villian
That is a sign of immense growth as a writer
i mean people need to stop being so obsessed with trying to figure out who is the main villain
thats so cringe
Breaking off of the decade long formula means someone is smart brave and mature and not cringe
the main villain is the ceo of rock humans
The ceo of rock humans is tooru
every single rock human is evil
how can you know
@karmic cloak, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !
every single RH we've seen
it doesn't matter if he's "main villain". There's so many loose ends in p8 that there's gonna need to be at least one more arc after this to tie shit up, and a significant chunk of em involve Jobin. Additionally, Jobin's philosophy and how that conflicts with Josuke's is a key conflict in p8. I'm not trying to deny what's on the page in front of me but it certainly seems off for him to get killed as collateral during the calamity.
that's the real reason people are doubting
okokokok hear me out
magenta gets dug up.
Ok can we not do the main villian thing anymore just let Jojolion have multiple influential baddies
theres probably like 2 or 3 chapters left for the Endless calamity before we switch to something else i think
jk
i dont get why valentine sent 47 hired killers to johnny and gyro when he himself has like the most op stand
Jojolion is about being different, new, inovative, unique and people shit on it because of ignoring the overused, boring "main villian trope"
people like to put stuff into neat little boxes
yes
although wouldnt the main villain be the rock human organization, the one that was half doctors (urban guerilla, poor tom, tooru) and half smugglers (damo, aisho, etc)
They also shit on Jojolion for "Not making any sense when they themselves can't connect the dots and also don't realise that the part isn't over. (A good example is Kei who people cried about all the time "araki forgot" well the part isn't over DUMBASS)
lol
kei has grown on me
when born this way appeared while kei was waltzing in to the room in the background
Yeah
People shit on Jojolion for it being "wierd". No, Jojolion is not wierd, it's smart and different. You've probably not read it yet so don't spread shit about it. If you actually read it, you'd get the context about the 4 balls and it wouldn't be funny anymore but you're weak and only want tradition "classic formula" concluded happy stories where the villian dies and the hero lives. That's also why you probably skipped part 1
jjl so swag
It is the best part
@astral lion, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !
Silence mee 6
The only part i needed some explaining was the josefumi-kira fusion
agricultural expert here what do you need
Your mom@heavy ledge
Nicotene
what about kiyomi
I can't say j*tard
HE CANT BE DEAD
It's a conflict that doesn't have to force a fight between Josuke and Jobin, that's a generic predictable scenario and Araki doesn't like being a predictable writer. Jobin wasn't even killed as collateral in a way, he directly tried to fight and pursue the Head Doctor and suffered the consequences right when Jobin was about to get the new rokakaka. That sounds like a perfect way to end off his character if he truly died since he spent a lot of time and did a lot of bad stuff for the sake of collecting the rokakaka. Not only will his bad decisions cost his own life, but would kickstart the Higashikatas' downfall, the very same family Jobin obsessively tried to keep secure. And what loose ends directly need Jobin? Because loose ends like Kaato can happen without Jobin.
he ded bro, group hug, we will have to use the clown pfp the next month
You can kill Jobin here while still foiling Josuke and him. Josuke is continuing to rise and succeed, bringing the best out of the few allies he has. All while Jobin's on a downfall that dragged his family down with him
Im in major denial
My heart is telling me the chapter summaries are written with the information we as the reader have, and if it said he was alive then it would contradict what we are led to believe at the moment, even if he is alive
My brain says that mf dead
I want my heart to be right.
today's episode on the importance of double checking the japanese... I'm sorry everyone. They have the same reading, but it was 斃れる as in to be killed, not 倒れる as in to fall over. https://t.co/hPwcKBbqFJ
im not fully up with jojolion, but why does Wu Tomoki have a negative age
What
Yo is a briefcase gonna fall on joshus head to kill him
@gilded ferry its not a briefcase
how can you confuse a heavy plane door with a briefcage
Riiiip...
Soft & Wet: Can take stuff from a thing if the bubble touches
Josuke: Throws bubble at Yasuho and takes her virginity
?????
rEEEEEEEE
comedy
So what do we do bout the clown pfps. Do you need to see jobins body?
So jobin is really dead?
Man

Somehow I still don't think he's dead
Even with confirmation that he's dead, I don't believe it. I don't want to believe it.

pain.
When i learnt that jobin was dead....i was disappointed
Araki could make a entire chapter explaining Jobin's death and mf still not believe it
And Jobin dying is pretty okay, i personally feel its appropiate
I would've liked it if he was alive just for a lil longer, so he can soak in how much he's fucked up.
True
If anything, Jobin's death and The Higashikata downfall is the perfect scenario to Kaato glorious return
I wish jobin interacted one more time with josuke before dying
i said the same yesterday,jobin never got to see the consequences his actions had on his family
That whole moment after 95 feels wasted now
Yeah. In that essence I don't think his arc was fully developed.
It's good thematically that Jobin would die and cause the downfall of his own family. Having him observe that downfall directly would've been a neat character moment I think.
I agree
No redemption just, "Oh god I fucked up horribly."
Meh, nah
you're meh
Thats the type of cruelty that Araki likes
Especially when we literally see him reacting to that weight by that Norisuke scene he did
But he still went on with his own delusions of victory and the place of his family. Going a lil further with that self-awareness is what I would've liked out of Jobin.
Agreed
Yeah
Yeah and his delusions caused his own death. If he dies without reflection, then I don't really care. If he lives or does have a moment of reflection while he's laying on the ground, that's also neat
Then yeah it comes down to personal preference. I just wanted more out of my lil speed king.
We all did 😔
also yeah I really agree, people only wanting jobin back to fight josuke is really dumb
One last speeeeeyaa...
He had more limelight than 90% of minor villains in the entire franchise... including some allies
A lil more when he's dying I mean.
He still deserves more limelight
You all think another Higashikata is going to die? Not counting Norisuke
no
Nah
Comparing him to minor villains is stupid af
Daiya/Hato/Joshu aren't important enough to kill off
and jesus does araki just refuse to use daiya and hato
If hato could extend her fingers that'd be OP
It's not stupid, Jobin was never a main villain and had a lot for a simple side antagonist who was never apart of the rock human group, the literal enemy group that threatened Josuke and the Higashikatas
should heaven been a side villain after tooru or whatever
like dio in part 7
but we need at least one more flashback from tooru to be fully developed and we understand his motives
@sharp zephyr, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
I hope we don't have a rehash of High Voltage in terms of narrative placement
I mean, we dont know Tooru's surname
because he doesn't have one
Yeah the High voltage comparison doesn’t work or fit here
tooru is a made-up name
tooru still hasn’t had a proper backstory
Ffs.Just because a character doesnt fit your mold for a "main villain" doesnt mean he isnt important.Jobin as a character feels way more important than someone like tooru because araki took his time to build him up.So just comparing him to minor villains is stupid
Way more of a fan of JJL not having a main villain. Multiple opponents at each side with Josuke/Yasuho figuring shit out has been a lot more fun.
and with tooru/jobin capped. Kaato's gonna be the last obstacle probably
I mean,yeah, but in the Wonder of U explanation page it mentions that Yasuho doesnt know Tooru's surname. If is not important, why mention it?
“main villain” is a pointless word in this part,jobin was important to the narrative and josukes character as an ideological foe I’d say he mattered more than someone say aisho or urban from the rock human group
^
I fucking love tooru as a character i just hoped that people wouldnt keep calling him/jobin the mv
jobin has more of a personal goal and a vendetta against josuke
Idk, I don't know how he could cram some Tooru flashback or origin rn.
he isn’t a push over antagonist
A main villain is the main antagonist of the part
Every other villain is a side villain
A "main" antagonist
Mold or no, Jobin was a well handled antagonist but he wasn't nearly as big as the fanbase constantly hyped him up to be. Tooru is leagues more important than Jobin by actually tying into main characters' backstories and being the MAIN DUDE of the rock humans that antagonized everyone since early Jojolion. That's ridiculous to even remotely claim Jobin and Tooru are in the same league and I like both characters.
Jobin wasn't obligated to some boring predictable fight with Josuke just because he was a well written antagonist lmao
People saying that a part can only have a single big bad is just cringe
No we don't
Hey.What if
Araki tried something different?Did that ever cross your mind?
Jjl has been diferent to other parts
Man tooru is just disappointing as a "big bad" compared to someone like valentine
bro jojojlion has been a rollercoaster who knows if there’s like a 4th villain lmfao
you gotta be better at this detecting sarcasm thing
Yasuho had more significant shit with Jobin's wife than Jobin himself and has Rai ever even met the dude?
Jobin isn't in Tooru's league
jobin has more of a personal motive to fight josuke
i guess that’s why people like him more than tooru
I assumed you were being sarcastic but somebody would take it seriously lol
unless we get a full on tooru backstory explaining why he’s doing this
We kinda did
Yeah I doubt toorus the only overall big bad he only really works in one half of the story he doesn’t really resolve anything with the other we’ve had characters in this part that had an equal amount of impact on josuke like damo even if he’s considered minor
We did
The personal motive is interesting and all, but it shouldn't be surprising that Jobin dies to someone else.
Tooru has way more personal tie ins with the main group and affected Josuke more personally than Jobin ever has. Tooru actually pushed Josuke's buttons regarding Yasuho while Jobin never did. Along with the entire "main guy of the rock humans, the rock humans bringing suffering and the reason Josuke even exists"
lol tooru needs money for air jordans
Tooru is a tier above Damo but i get what youre saying
I agree tooru really pushed his buttons, including killing some of his friends, dangering yasuho (big no no), and multiple shitty doings
Meanwhile Jobin always just pursued the rokakaka while cursing Josuke under his breath.
He was bound to die to someone. Glad it was someone big like Tooru
Tooru is probably the most threatening villain in jojo but for character who is supposed to be this important,he just feels ..kinda meh
Feels like you need a reread, since he's had severaaal chapters of character at this point and Wonder of U is a fantastic stand that also furthers some of Tooru's personality. Like the entire scene "umm, wow someone never got this close to me before woah-"
He has a lot of characterization. Tooru dancing while fucking shit up with WOU is one of my favorite moments in JJL.
^^^
I really hope we don't get some stupid flashback about how a random guy pissed on him while he was sleeping as a rock and now hates humanity.
He'd make a really fun side villain
yeah, tooru has some really good characterisation
the cool thing is, there's still a lot of mystery about him
Valentine didnt need a sappy flashback to make himself interesting
like, how old is he? why is he doing all this? how did he get into a japanese highschool? what is his last name? why did yasuho date him, anyways?
tooru emotionally manipulated yasuho into dating him and used her
Tooth
maybe he loves her maybe he doesn’t it’s not explained really
Most of those have already been answered,he’s doing this for the wealth and power the rokakaka could bring to him, and we’ve had entire chapters of how rock humans integrate into society, and 102 showed us how he manipulated yasuho and her memories
i get how rock humans integrate in society, but there's a lot of requirements to enter a school
he needs birth certificates, identification, school records, parents, etc etc
Adoption?
It could be another case of impersonation yeah
not only that, rock humans sleep for a long time
people would probably notice tooru being absent
Tooru isn’t a bad villain in fact he has great moments but he doesn’t have that amazing chemistry with Josuke that main jojo villains have with the the main jojo imo.
Its possible he learned stuff in college, you can basically walk into a classroom and learn with people, its really lax
tooru actually hasn't talked to josuke that much
wou doesn't really count, since they have pretty different personalities anyways, and josuke doesn't know that the hd is tooru's stand
I mean...I dont understand why Tooru is getting called a main villain, he is just an obstacle for now
I’m saying if he is the main villain
oh no, it's maxsus
Same max, people are using that title too loosely
Oh, I guess, but I dont see it being truth
Whats that supposed to mean?
Am I not absolutely beloved?
eh, if you forgot i probably shouldn't bring it up now
Are we enemies?
anyways, if tooru wasn't the villain, he wouldn't have such a long arc
Yes you have been rivals since kindergarten
bruh if tooru isnt the villain who is
The main villain is the friends we made along the way
tooru's presence is leading up to josuke using the spin
If there is a main villain it would probably be Kaato but I agree with Maxsus
The Boom Boom Family caused Johnny to learn the spin
it's sort of like the love train arc, and we're now at the part where valentine has just been injured
No even though it’s true no
but i'd say tooru is the valentine of this part
Please rephrase that, I dont know what that means
he is the 'final boss', but there is still stuff to go after he's defeated
He doesn’t feel like a final boss to me
No, even though it’s true, I don’t like it
You dont like the boom boom arc?? 
I could only see a handful of things and conflicts being resolved after his death but most of the story wouldn’t be resolved
It’s the worst arc in steel ball run
there are bad arcs in steel ball run?
Tomb of the boom
That is your choise for the worst arc?
Is interesting really the standard you wanna go with?
where you at
Im here, but I usually stay silent about my wish for Kaato to be the final opponent
kaato will probably be brought back
To be fair I like every other arc in steel ball run so I kind of have to say it’s the worst
Kaato gang ✊
i'd be surprised if she wasn't
I wonder what her stand could look like
Kaato gang
Or maybe its just cards
Rise up
her stand is a deck of cards
And?
or maybe it's her hair
No it’s the cards
Maybe its her heels
@viral plume if Kaato’s stand isn’t named queen I have to drink water in one go right?
Yep
Once the final chapter hits, you are gonna jump into jojo discussion vc and you are drinking a big cup of water in one gulp
Because lets be honest, she aint gonna fucking show up again, but we can hope
We can hope
If kyo can come back so can kaato
Her words implied she also wanted to use it to become a fusion
Karera is going to get the ojiro treatment. In other words she’s going to come back just to die
Hell yeah
Can’t wait for Ojiro comes back again part 1
ojiro is actually the part 9 jojo
Hes fucking gonna be
Colored volumes were coming out today right
In before araki
The colored volumes drop on the 30th
Ahh k
Someone ping me when the colored volumes come out I want to see colored ozon baby
Karera and joshu fusion
VOLUME 24 IN HAND BABY
Crazy
😩
very nice
Amazing
A ton of villains don't have a personal chemistry with the heroes in Jojo actually. The majority are complete strangers that hate each other with only a minority having a fully formed chemistry.
I said main villain
I’m saying that’s why I wouldn’t want Tooru to be the main villain
Diavolo didnt really have allot of personla chemistry with Giorno...
That’s also why I don’t like diavolo
Diavolo is my least favorite main villain because of that
But Bruno is the main protagonist kind of in a way and he has okay chemistry with Bruno which makes up for it a little
Well, hes the Deuteragonist, more than anything
Yeah
If I can flex my writer terms real quick
I don’t know that many writing terms lol besides the neutral, good, evil thing
If that even counts
I see you I see you
Flexes in Mary Sue, death of the author and character assasination
Oh I know Mary Sue
Do you?
Kind of I have a basic jist
What about Gary Stu
Do you know AAAAAAAALL the different characterisations with the Mary Sue?
no
Thats just a Mary Sue that holds a penis
That’s just the same thing but a man right
I genuinely hate the term mary stu and gary stu lol
Why
star wars fans
I will beat your ass





