#jojolion
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But you can read it in English
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it's a shame that not even part 5 has a official English translation
Maxh fingy reveal.
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Noice
I assume you live in a Francophone place but other languages are spoken there too...?
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jobin best written character in jjl change my mind
are you still reading jjl?
no i actually finished it like a couple days ago
to the latest chapter
btw how do get the jojolion new chapters role?
ping mods and ask them gentle to give you the role
@obsidian jacinth hey dude can you give this guy the role, then show me the command to give people roles cause i was looking trough the bot command list the other day and couldn't find it
ok sure who you want me to give the role?
wait no
this guy
ok ok
i can't ping him cause of the weird letters lol
get real
No
Get fake
no im fake plastic woman
British people be like: D O L I M I T E

Whenās chapter 103 coming out
Idk if itās a joke but jojo lion is part 8
Itās part 8 of jojoās bizarre adventure featuring Joshu and Donny domino as the main protagonists
A little less than two weeks
Where can I read it?
Mangadex
Is that free?
I can hook you up with an app that will automatically update every new chapter
Yes itās free
How have you been reading jojo up until now?
Manga top and viz
Yes
Okay I can show you an app to download to read the new chapter when it comes out
Whatās it called
Iāll dm you
17 or 18th
Itās the 18th in Japan
17th in the us depending on where you are
12 days, 19 hours, 47 minutes and 4 seconds until JJL Chapter 103 releases in Japan
i made a rokakaka 3d model in blender
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
Not bad
yeah it's literally my first model i've made in blender
rlly cool
That is extremely good for someoneās first model the fruits do look a little off but itās your first model so that is excusable
How
I dont even know how to use blender so thats already impressive for me
What would yāall rather have a stand arrow (the regular one not the one with the beetle on it) or a infinite supply of Locacaca 6251
What were the effects of the locacaca 6521 again?
cures you at the cost of getting rocks crawling in your body
i love his lack of energy yes king give us nothing
He stand
Yeah and it also doesnāt exchange your brain
I FUCKING love Gappy sm
i dont even completely understand soft and wet
@cedar scaffold, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 20 !
killer queen sounds cool tho
How far are you?
finished
latest chapter
soft and wet does a lot of things
shoot bubbles
make things dissapear
theres more i think
I would choose soft and wet
Soft and Wet is fairly simple itās a close range power type stand itās ability is it can create Bubbles but they arenāt actually bubbles but a string spinning so fast it has the appearance of a Bubble the bubbles can do some things the first thing we see it do is take properties from objects like taking friction from a wall or taking sound from a floor it can also store tiny objects in the bubble like teeth Josuke can also change the size of the bubble so he can trap people in his bubbles or protect himself from air pressure decreasing he can also create as many as he wants and finally Soft and Wetās bubbles allows Josuke to completely destroy objects like a mini Creme
Also Soft and Wet has a secret ability for Josuke to discover at the time the ability is mysterious and we know nothing about it except that it involves Spin
Yeah I would choose soft and wet
Yeah way more useful Killer Queen is better for fighting but Soft and Wet is like a Swiss Army knife it can do a lot
3 stands then
They get hella complicated
Which makes me shook ig
Like sure tusk was simple enough but then the golden ratio thing kinda confused me
It really isnāt you see in nature there is this thing called golden ratio where if you do the correct measurements you end up with the same number this is a real world thing Araki didnāt make this up
I get the gist of it
Yeah ik that the actual name is actually called the fibbonacci sequence
But involving that with stands is cool and all but they make it a litrle harder to understand
Who do you think is the main Villian of Jojolion?
How? I never saw him as main villain potential but instead a side antagonist like the rock humans or Ojiro
Who, jobin? Nah hes not the villain i said
Also I highly doubt itās Tooru he hasnāt done anything and he was honestly introduced way too late to be a main villain like yeah his stand is strong but itās not really a final fight stand
Oh sorry i canāt read š
Yeah thats the thing toruu was introduced too late so idrk
I think the main villain is Kaato she was introduced fairly early and she has to be a important character if sheās getting mentioned far after her appearance
I donāt think she has a motive.
Jobin has his own goals which is saving his son and the fam disease so he doesnt care to involve anyone else
Like she just seems to want to protect her son.
Main villain can be introduced however late the writer wants
Yeah kaato was just kinda there as jobins support
And Josk8 didnāt kill him.
Yeah exactly it doesnt have to be like every other part
She does have a motive her son is dead and she is 100% working with the Damokon Group since she was literally the only person who shipped Damoās group to Morioh
Plus toruu has a rlly strong stand
Yeah but itās not really a final fight stand
But why would she attack Josk8?
I mean he is the one who led gappy to develop a spin
Josuke killed Damo and most of his group and killed all of the rock humans at the TG University Hospital
And if u think ab if its a difficult skill to counter and it could still get stronger
But wouldnāt she also be angry at Tooru?
Anything is a final fight stand if Araki wants it to be
Who do u think is the main villain tho
I think Tooru is a mini boss stand heās the final antagonist before the main villain
So the main villain hasnt been introduced yet?
Yeah but weāre talking about final fights here all previous 7 main villains all had close range power type stands
It seems like were approaching the climax tho
Tooru with one of the most op stands ever is a mini boss lul
Who do you think is the villain then?
Okay and? Vanilla Ice had a crazy op stand and he wasnāt the main villai.
Cool I don't care what they had because the writer can do whatever the fuck
Kaato
Ok.
Kaato in my opinion is 100% gonna be the main villain
What was her stand again
Like what was the ability
Or KQ
Itās a bunch of cards so far but itās mainly mysterious and thereās more to it
She can store anything in between her cards
Or MiH
I dont see how that stand has super villaim potential
We know she can put stuff in cards
Thereās 100% more to her stand than just storing objects in between cards
Itās obvious Kaatoās stand turns into KC duh, idiot poop faced heads.
Doubt
Haha very funny
Calling it now Kaatoās Stand is named Queen Crimson
I think Kaatoās stand is just gonna be named Queen
Queen kingsom.
Is Queen Crimson even a music reference
Its a rule for stands to only have one ability
Probably not.
Unless requiem or another arrow
Super bite mark.
Alright then how does Wonder of U have its calamity ability yet it can also go through walls and walk into objects
Any stand can do that
Do u rmr star platinums in that episode the lovers
It put its hand through glass
Yeah but thatās stand phasing what Wonder of U is doing isnāt phasing itās literally walking into walls and flattening itself and in order for stand phasing to work there needs to be a opening yet Wonder of U just walks through walls
Oh and Wonder of U can copy the appearance of other people so thatās another ability
An opening?
I wasnt the one who said it it was mentioned in many other parts to have 1 main ability and another that is somewhat connected
Yes
Like when White Snake went through the wall it had to go through a barred window since it has a opening and when Star Platinum grabbed the jewelry there was a opening
It needed an opening to put the jewelry through, not for the stand itself
How do you know?
How do you know?
Because it was literally said in the episode bruh
Yeah but then how come other stands donāt just phase through walls
Joj olion
Hello Nate.
Yo
Nah
Ok.
Something like ātheres an opening so u can put the jewelry throughā and it shows star platinum only needing the opening to do exactly that
Some stands deviant from their references quite a bit. Queen Crimson isnāt unlikely to happen just because of the name
I still love you, mwah.
I don't even support my own opinions
Yeah neither do I.
Opinions aren't real
Agreed.
Youāre not real man!
Agreed.
Except I actually donāt agree.
Because thatās an opinion.
And theyāre fake.
But disagreeing is also an opinion
Then Iāll just leave forever.
Wait no.
If opinions arenāt real.
Then this isnāt an opinion.

Theyāre facts.
I think Joshu is cool
People who hate Joshu donāt understand the point of his character
I understand him he just isn't very likeable
Yeah thatās the point Yasuho pfp
Dojyaan~ is a lady.
Okay and?
Gender doesnāt matter everyone is equal except people who commit crimes
Hilarious
Hilarious.
Help moment.
the hell is going on
Iām being big funny.

OG Joshu looks wack
Joshu is a skater š³
No
Killer Queen
King Crimson
Gold Experience
Tusk
Echoes
Many others
Even Soft and Wet... in a way
Kinda yea
Killer Queen: Gains a new ability once shot with an arrow, like I said before
King Crimson: Requiem arrow
Gold Expereince: Requiem arrow
Tusk: It wasnt a new ability gain, it was simply because his stand had not grown to its full potential, and its growth potential was probably high.
Echoes: Literally has 1 ability. Once it gains one, it drops the ability it had before
...
Soft and wet has two abilities
Sheet Hear Attack doesn't exist?
King Crimson was stabbed with a normal arrow he never got the beetle arrow till part 5
Epitaph wasnāt an upgrade
Gold Experience learns ALL its abilities during the part
Except GER
Which isn't what I speak of
Echoes can use alll it's abilities
Yare yare
no it couldnt bruh
Echoes: Literally has 1 ability. Once it gains one, it drops the ability it had before
koichi was shown using act 1 in part 5
Technicality heavens door has two abilities because the manifestation was able to write with its finger
It can
rmr when its ranged changed because it had a completely new ability
it couldnt use that sound effect ability
Act 2 and act 3 have their own range
Koichi can switch between acts
when??
He does it in Parts 4 and 5
Aerosmith has three abilities
It used act 1 in part 5
the sound affect ability?
It used the form
He's capable of using Act 2 at any time, yes.
Because the ability sucks he doesn't use it
all he did was use act 3, freeze in part 5 when did he use act 1
To scout out where tf Gio is
Only in the manga though but manga is the official canon
Can't remember when exactly but Yes mentioned it happened and I trust Yes
And I also trust Ceo of Dino aids
Then again, I'm not the one making this up. It literally says multiple times that a Stand can have 1 ability, and not multiple that are completely different
It says it in the anime and the manga
in part 4 and part 6
Aerosmith has three abilities
Except stand rules don't apply to every stand
theres multiple stands that use more than 1 ability
not what I mean by multiple abilities
its a power type stand which is pretty durbale
its major ability is time stop
This exists @cedar scaffold
yeah but they are related
No they arenāt
how so
Breathing detection doesnāt have anything to do with guns
He can use them both independently
its a way to pinpoint an enemies location so yes
its like sheer heart attack using heat
But they are still separate things
in order for a stand to move on its own, it needs an objective
that doesnt count as an ability, its simply a way for the stand to move remotely
Aerosmith isnāt an automatic stand it doesnāt need breathing detection it can do it without it
theres also whitesnake
^
Lovers has two abilities
both can be used separately, like i said, they are still connected. In order for it to be used automatically and to find an enemy breathing detection is definelt connected
lovers 2 abilities are connected too
They are still separate things even if they compliment each other
No offense but your definition for two abilities is garbage
white snake has two different abilities and so does diver down
^^
for example, a stand has an ability to make explosions and another completely different ability to control technology or some shit
those 2 arent related
@cedar scaffold
bruh im not the one who created the stand rule
@minor ore would u please be epic and show us the panel of echoes act 1 in part 5 cuz idk where it is and I assume u do
yall acting like i made the stuff up
U do
star platinum's main ability is just strength and fast punches, but he also has things like star finger and the far vision thing
Sometimes the creator is wrong
Here's one from Part 4, after he already got Act 2
Stand rules don't apply to every stand
are u dumb go back to part 4 where it says there can only be one ability
thats what im saying. u guys are saying it like its my fault and im making it up.
You are making it up
literally stfu it says it multiple times
dude weve given you multiple examples of that rule not applying to other stands
We are showing you examples like white snake and diver down and you are just ignoring them
I don't give a fuck what the characters think stands with multiple abilities exist
ok but did i make up the stand rule?? no
White snake and diver down break this rule
Hermit Purple can project thoughts as well as take pictures of somebody far away
my point is, that that stand rule exists. that is my only point. yall twisting my words
The rules don't matter
Also conduct hamon
That too
The "rules" aren't consistently applied to every Stand, they're more of just general statements that apply to most Stands.
ok and? just say that instead of saying im making stuff pu
and our point is that the rules have been broken countless times
there are practically no rules when it comes to stands
and I said i know that. im just saying that there is a rule that exists in the first place
but that rule is broken so why are you bringing it up
the base of this conversation, yall werent there for it. It was saying if Caatos ability can transition in to a main villain type stand
i said no
None stand users can't see stands- broken
1 stand per user- DIO broken
1 ability- broken
Damage reflects on the user- broken
shut up this isnt my point
White snake and diver down break this rule so why are you bringing it up @cedar scaffold
did u see my above message. the base of this conversation, yall werent there for it. It was saying if Caatos ability can transition in to a main villain type stand
and someone pinged me to discuss
so i did
that is why im talking ab it now
And so if the rule is broken that means it can
ok how
thats what i like to discuss now
how can caatos ability, (card thing) be a villain type stand
do u know how to read i was quoting a common stand rule. anyway
Yeah I already said white snake and diver down have already broken this rule so why canāt caato
Itās unlikely IMO but it can still happen
Ad hominem amazing attack my character more
I can read
caatos current ability doesnt have the potential for an extremely dangerous villain time stand
That rule doesn't matter
that was my base point, and introducion
What if she can trap humans
we have moved way past that now. keep up
Because it doesn't apply to every stand
do u think that this is a main villain type stand? the paper stand from part 4 did this exact same thing
We donāt know the full explanation for her stand and we donāt know how it works for all we know it sends things to different dimensions
Also this
so that wouldnt count as a second ability then, would it?
We moved the conversation tho
it just is her stand that isnt fully explained
Yeah thatās even more a reason she could
It can still do something completely different
If a stand is vague Araki can literally write whatever
Thatās not the conversation anymore we are talking about if it could be a main villain stand
ok yes. but it still aids my point in the fact that shes not able to gain a completely different stand ability than her current one
She could have another ability also
the 2 topics interconnect
Pretty sure Araki never wrote official stand rules that are concrete
he made a chapter in part 7
Where?
chapter 3 i believe
Because characters assuming one thing starts to fall flat when they don't know about every single stand
ill find a link
Normally Iām not one of those people who say araki forgot but almost every single stand rule has been broken
The page exists
chapter 42.5 of SBR
Those rules apply to some stands
The chapter doesn't say all Stands must adhere to those rules, those are just general statements that apply to many Stands.
that was for u who said i "made it up"
Eh, sorta. Stands do their own thing time to time and show to sometimes deviate. Which makes sense.
I said u made up the 1 ability bs
Bound stands make sense to be visible especially when they're their own category
Yeah that makes since @elfin tangle
mf no i did not
Us brings up stands with multiple abilities
You: that's one
That's the shit I meant
Stands having one ability gets contradicted in the same part that established stands. At best there's one "primary" ability and one secondary ability
He probably put that because most stands have only 1 ability but some of them have 2 or 3
And occasionally a third
Trueee
Like diver down, hermit purple, and white snake
Hermit Purple seems to only have 2 abilities
With anything else just being Joseph applying his stand creatively

Ah!
Ah!
Sleep well
Joshu > literally everyone besides Joshu
Im not ready
Relatable
Chapter 97 kinda ended in an ass pull
Wasnāt it stated that you have to ingest a specific amount of rokakaka to have it work?
Plus doesnāt it say the area that is turned to stone is completely random?
What were the odds that the neck of that interviewer would turn to stone and snap
That was a massive coincidence yeaa...but it kinda left a weird taste in my mouth

@quasi escarp no it was the calamity
If you're in the calamity the head doctor can basically control you and your surroundings
So he controlled what part turned to stone?
Yes
Yeah
Remember when he tried to heal from the rokakaka Holly gave him?
His mouth turned to stone and he couldn't breathe
That was because he had the intent to persue the Head doctor
I do yea
Got it 
Ok so just finished 100, did Rai just...open up his own chest to show Josuke the spin?
You understand that the bubbles are what damaged Rai @quasi escarp ?
I think so?
Well that's what happened
Well
It seems that the bubble phased through his suit, impaled him and phased through the back again
@quasi escarp other questions?
Nahg, finished 102
@quasi escarp, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
Now I wait for new chapter!
soon! around 2 weeks left
Sure yes
||Part 8 leak||
||https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ||

ok
not sure what i was expecting there
how I get jojo lion chapter role
ask a mod
Make me server owner then
Yeah if youāre really the owner give us owner to prove it
I still fucking love that gif so much
@elfin tangle I mean itās true so
joshu did nothing wrong
I really like Joshu as a character but he has done things wrong
Joshu haters have gotten more dubs than the character
Auto correct is the ceo of bitch
wrong
Right
I would say itās pretty even
fight me
Well I canāt
ftr missing again
bet
Smh
Most people that donāt like Joshu (not all) are people who donāt like his character because he has done bad things but then one second later defend strohiem
Not even missing
As a Joshu hater I can confirm all Iāve gotten were dubs these past couple of chapters
Me stoping a me stopping a joshu hater from getting airlifted to the hospital meme poster from getting airlifted to the hospital
what
Wh at!!!
Heās been humiliated and clowned on by nearly every character in the part. Aināt worthy of my respect š¤
:(
Just because someone has done bad things doesnāt mean you canāt like them as a character
These hoes canāt jump me, Iām flying with power
he is like the narancia of jojolion
You have activated my trap card called I win it means I win
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

Man

Mark my words the minute the flashforward stars joshu fans are gonna be catchin dubs nonstop
Joshu haters actually donāt exist they are just bots created by the government @inland oyster you are a bot created by the government
homosex
Alright time to take the fight to the air then FTR
joshu actin real weird in 102 doe
Joshu is about to get clowned on AGAIN by Yasuho
well i figured it ||was WoU ||
It was but Joshu was also being a piece of shit before that
He says something like āIāll kill you if you give someone a handjob with my arm.ā
Home of sex
It is a possibility he is being manipulated by wonder of u but I see so many people trying to treat it as fact I think we just need to keep the possibility in mind but not try to treat it as fact
Either way he's a scumbag

Just because someone is a scumbag doesnāt mean you canāt like them as a character
i was really hoping for a ||jobin redemption arc|| 
Just look at strohiem
i mean stroheim is ehh i was never crazy about him
Itās the infinite spin!
That's the Joshu fans when FTR lands back on the ground
LMAO
Iām certain itās a fact. But Iāll wait until 103
Still like 2 weeks till 103 right?
Thatās interesting Iāve never seen a Joshu hater that actually believes in that theory
Da baby
i just want to see cringe ass nae nae baby tsurugi and how he and mitsuba are doin
@maiden hornet, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
Itās next week so yeah
Joshu is a da baby fan
Iām a Joshu hater with LOGIC

Ok you have my respect
It may not look too good now but my mans is about to pull an entire 180 in the right direction again
In exactly 180 more chapters when part 8 ends
Metal youāre my homie I canāt see you taking more Lās
Just join the queen Yasuho faction
Iām tempted to ngl
Yasuho is ok in my opinion
Mamezuku is the cooler jobro š
Yasuho is delightful
I just call him Rai
i say mamezuku B) it has a ring to it
Mamezuku Rai

I guess Iām part of both factions technically
Lmao
Ok ok keep the gif spam to #manga-jojokes
Ok
my b my b
oop
Honestly thatās the only old meme I still like
I'm about to get racist
No way
Woah
That is beautiful
I need it so bad
Joshu fans > Joshu haters > Joshu stans
yes
facts
average joshu fan š
Average Joshu hater š
average joshu stan š¤”
really accurate ^
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jos(h)u
deep
really makes you think about society and our role in it
We live in a society a society we live in
a society šš
anyways, yoyolion
have you guys found the jojo lion?
we're still looking for him
omg :000
we've lost 5 men and almost lost eggward last week, but we're still on the hunt
that is what the jojo lion is said to look like
Yes it is an artist rendition
can i join the hunting squad as well? Ive done 2 months research i think i have interesting stuff to share
Sadly we lost bingus to the jojo lion as well @faint rivet
a shame
Sure
yesss joshu bingus is on our side
i do enjoy making those, but some of them are hard work and i don't really like how they turned out (josuke floppa)
Nate is it true the entire Madagascar division disappeared @faint rivet
I have donovan joshu but no one likes it š
yeah the whole madagascan crew was wiped out last week
Without a trace right?
mayhaps that is where the jojo lions reside?
Unless it can teleport
probably can
that must be the answer..
we will find them
soon
The Madagascar division is probably already dead but we can still hope
we haven't gotten any responses back from them, so it's safe to assume they're gone
alr my fellow hunters im going to sleep gn
Gn
Gn ceo
We still havenāt found it yet yesterday we lost our entire Madagascar division @wind scroll
Shit
We are assuming the jojo lions got to them @wind scroll
Fuck
Was a Jojo lion hunt happening?
Isn't that the Lion from Narnia
Aslan
Maybe???
Nope. Got no clue
Holy shit we found the JoJo lion āŗļøāŗļøāŗļøāŗļø
where is proof that that is the real jojo lion?
smh the zenyatta mondatta brothers would never say that
^
I doubt thatās a real jojo lion they are elusive creatures who have not been found yet
What?
Oh I was worried for a second
Gone
unstan oingo boingo
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@faint rivet we just got contact from the Madagascar division but there was only 1 guy he tried to talk at first but then all we heard was screaming then it disconnected
was it brian?
Yes
Guys I think Wonder of U is strong
Brian will be missed
who knows what else these jojo lions are capable of
Bingshu
Joshus about to become irrelevant af
Wait sorry I didnāt mean to reply to that message
@faint rivet at least we have joshu bingus

Bingshu
jingus can easily defeat the jojo lions
where is he stationed? Helvetica?
Greenland
ah, okay
No way
What stand would you rather have Brain Storm or Kiss
shit why did i think helvetica is a country
Kiss more versatile
Kiss
what was brainstorm? the virus thing?
Brainstorm is good for killing but Iām not going to be getting in many fights
Yes
But you could
Kiss is still good in fights anyway
Josefumi is not real in the story itās a lie made up by Araki
No Iām talking about josefumi not part 8 josuke
ok
ok
Ok
Can soft and wet transfer properties or does it only steal?
only steals
It would be cool if could transfer the sharpness of a knife to his fist or something
that's an interesting idea for a stand ability
has that been done before?
I can't recall
I donāt mind
Itās about the journey
Ugh
yeah a ruined journey
If you want me to leave I will
Take it from someone who "didn't mind" spoilers when they were reading jojo, it really hurts your experience
also you can and will provide nothing to the conversation in the channels for parts you haven't read yet
It's like walking up to Jotaro in japan and telling him that he'll beat Dio but he'll lose 3 friends too
Jo - shu
I need a mod to pin this because its necessary
why do people feel the need to hang out in channels for parts they haven't read to
you can and will provide literally NOTHING positive or relevant to the conversation
it's just embarrassing
I saw joe shoe because joe joe
that's just how it's said
it's not jaw-soo-kay is it
i say it jaw shu too
I know it's joshu
and I say all the other names correctly
but I can't stop saying josh u
I used to pronounce Norisuke noureesookay
To look cool idk
I will never forget the day i started reading jjl and i knew absolutely nothing about it 
Shut up.
^
No guys don't do that
Why shut up
They're actually reading it
...
So it's a good thing that they have questions
You too
well
yeah, at least they're reading it
but then again, 'funny sailor man has 4 balls hahaa' is going to make you hated by most jojolion readers
But they're reading it and it's fine
If they're reading it, they're catching up, they learn, they get over the meme, and it's all good
Its pretty weird ,at least from what I've read which is not much
You do your thing @void osprey
True, that joke wears out
Question-
Do stands change with memory loss ?
Like how stands evolve with your "fighting spirit" ?
Hierophant
The only example of this is Joseph
Its best if You just read it
but he doesn't change much
I don't think so
We could've had that tested with Daiya's California King Bed but Araki had the stand be bad.
@void osprey they don't change ok?
I mean memories do make a person, without any of them and gain new ones. You're basically a new person too-
@left ferry but in the logic of jojo
That isn't the case
It's not memories that make the stand but the basic structure of ones soul
The most perfect example of this is Gappy
I'd say your stand is your fighting spirit thing
But idk are we still doing that lol
Cuz i think that might have been retconed in part 4
Cuz Tonio and Aya exist lol
Someone's fighting spirit is also their soul
Tonio and Aya didn't want to fight so they developed helpful stands
But that's not fighting spirit
Your will to fight (fighting spirit) was originally what made your stand work or kill you
You know there are 2 magical words that can solve this
Araki forgot
xD
Btw who could be Rohan of JoJolion?
You think Kaato is ever going to come back?
yeah
Oh for sure, that position has been firmly taken
Some disagree lul
Funlly enough the person who disagreed said Tooru didn't have enough screen time to be MV
And Kaato did? Lol
Hey at least we are past "JJL won't have a main villain"
Right?
Nobody still believes that right? xD
I can't see who else could take the spot considering how busted Wonder of U is
Where too advanced in the story to have Kaato as a main villain
Unless jojolion its not ending soon
Then maybe Kaato as a main villain can be a posibility
I would be shocked if this isn't the climax of the Part, but only time will tell
Maybe theres 2 main villains
A rock human villain (Tooru)
A human villain (Kaato)
That dont sounds bad
It would be thematic
doesnt it seem a bit lackluster to be ending already
Yeah, Tooru has only one problem as a main villain, his null relationship with the Higashikata family
Kaato fill that well
Yep,we dont ever know the stand name
All we know it takes the form of a deck of cards and can seemingly store objects in there
seems fitting
Nah
since the other higsshikstas have king in their stand names
Considering they brought back Kyo/Kei, it might be possible for Kaato to make a surprise comeback
Comes back to fight Tooru
Also haven't several MVs had a null relationship with the protagonists
Nah
yeah
That's Jobin
jobin confirmed dead doe ?
No
Tooru repeated what Joshu said and Joshu is an idiot so he was probably mistaken
But rn i doubt he will have a bigger role
I doubt Araki would "Hot Pants" us again
If Jobin died he should have a fucking send off not just
oh he's dead BTW
Jobin is too based to die
Isnt it kinda weird that Tooru as a character doesnt fit main antagonist role, but araki kind of makes him look like one
Like, compared to jobin
Tooru fits
I feel Tooru as a Character will be explored more with time
His stand is busted to shit
I guess it's just personal opinion
He's more of a background main villain, kinda like Diavolo to an extent
But his stand is broken af
Except his hair looks like shit
Wonder of U is a monster
Also, Tooru has a stand that fill a thematic with Love train
Background villian? Are you fully caught up my guy?
Im sad that it means jobin was somewhat a reason for the rock humans to attack josuke
Yes, I mean that's he's manipulated the events behind the scenes before revealing himself @minor ore
Both being stands that manipulate luck/fate
@slow dome ah ok you just didn't phrase it well
I mean yea
He's been in the background without us knowing until like
Half way into the part?
Bit more
this
Also, Tooru has a relationship with Josuke/Yasuho/Rai
Well not Josuke
Experimenting with Holy,killing Rai parents and manipulating Yasuho since child
That's not being tied to the character himself
True
Being tied historically to the to the character is his with Yasuhos relationship and kinda with Rai
But not Josuke
True,i worded poorly
Honestly kinda curious how (possibly) born this way is going to do anything to wonder
@abstract eagle, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
Think about it man
It's an interesting fight
BTW can't be killed
I mean, but if Kei hasnt touched wonder even once in her life she is useless
And it'll be the calamity's main focus
Born this way is an invincible automatic persueing stand
Dont forget that
Is not the first time two automatics stand fight against each other?
I think it is actually
Yeah
Huh, neat
Retconned abilities exist
Well @abstract eagle it's been 7 years Araki might as well retconn it
Born this way now uses the spin
@Pogchamp15 well the same happened with paper moon king during the fight with doobie wah
But the concept of two automatic stands, one focused on persueing and the other stopping the persuer fighting each other is too interesting to just throw out of the window for a cheap spin insert
True
@abstract eagle yes
I just joking
Yeah
._.
Man idk how i feel about spin being here
Returning to the conversation, Paisley Park and Born this way are the perfect counter to Wonder of U
Still hoping that at least kaato will return after being for 7 whole panels
Why paisley tho
Paisly has nothing to counter with it's just a search stand
What does that have to do with anything
I mean the only thing i can think of paisley doing is throwing pens at wonder so it'll trigger born this eay
Way*
Which sounds kinda funny
Paisley can guide Yasuho to the weakness of Wonder of U

