jojolion

[digital hornet]

i have a FAT feeling this part is going to be the world's biggest Araki Forgot

theres no way hes rapping all of that up

[inland oyster]

He’s been writing manga for like decades now lol

[noble vigil]

14 mysteries

wow

[inland oyster]

Sure some of it might’ve been dropped but he ain’t unprofessional. I’m pretty sure most of it will be solved by the end of the part

[digital hornet]

granted some of it doesnt really need to be explained

like the bite marks idrc about that

that can just be kind of impleid as like

idk

i guess its still a mystery

[sudden nymph]

Holly’s stand isn’t really a mystery of course I would very much like to see her stand but it’s not like a major plot point that needs to be answered

If her stand is revealed I personally believe it would probably be a support stand

[frozen charm]

She just has crazy diamond 2

[minor ore]

Wasn’t this paisley park idfk

[hard meteor]

yeah she was looking at paisleys shadow

[frozen charm]

Oh

[minor ore]

Oh yea pls I got confused her seeing it implies that she has a stand

I thought It was in the context of it’s her stand

Messz

[frozen charm]

Is the trigger for wonder of u just seeing tooru himself???

[minor ore]

Imagine

I doubt it the stand has some kind of slash

[frozen charm]

I see

[minor ore]

Im pretty sure it uses it to target people tho the guy in the jail cell saw the hd and died

[frozen charm]

Yea

He's our exception

Everyone has seen tooru before a calamity hit them

Mitsuba saw him in the hospital

[minor ore]

Kyo is named kei now and her name means punishment so she probably did smth and got erased

Oh yea

I forgot that mitsuba saw him

🤩pls That pin is making my head hurt

[frozen charm]

She was like who's that at the end of dr wu

Maybe prison guy is toorus sugar daddy idk

[minor ore]

Imagine

💀

He looks like such a twink

[frozen charm]

He murdered the children and was tryna frame tooru

[minor ore]

I mean he could be his own sugar daddy with WoU such a useful Stand

[frozen charm]

Yea

Wait

Y'all every just old design tooru

[minor ore]

It's really been long enough for his design to change? Damn

Do NOT google early gappy

People who do so have suffered greatly...........

[hard meteor]

Why

[minor ore]

Basically he's ugly

He looked like Schwarzenegger doing a cheap cosplay

[hard meteor]

Bruh,that’s it

[glass lily]

This?

[sudden nymph]

Remember when questions were answered in jojolion

Yeah me neither

[glass lily]

I can't think of think of many mysteries that are still left open at this point

[sudden nymph]

@glass lily

[hard meteor]

early josuke doesn’t look that bad I kinda like that hat more

[sudden nymph]

This is already pinned but I don’t care

[glass lily]

I'm really expecting kaato to return once the head doctor stuff is over

[heavy ledge]

all gappys are gorgeous u guys are just cowards

[glass lily]

more so hoping

[sudden nymph]

@glass lily there are a lot of questions still unanswered

[glass lily]

the flashforward is the only one I really want to know about and the only one I think we will actually get closure on out of all of those since most of them have just become araki forgot moments

[hard meteor]

A lot of these look like they’ll be explained in the near future

[sudden nymph]

Araki doesn’t often forget things contrary to popular belief most of them are just people not paying attention or a mistranslation the only actual one I can think of is planet waves being named Earth Wind and Fire

[hard meteor]

^ Don’t think most these are araki forgots

[sudden nymph]

And before you bring up the coffin that’s just bad writing not him forgetting

[near cedar]

99.8% Araki forgots are bs

Also imagine thinking something has been forgotten in an on going story when it can literally come back any chapter

[sudden nymph]

I finally was able to change my name back to its former glory

[near cedar]

What was stopping you?

[sudden nymph]

Ok now it’s back to it’s former glory

In a server I was in I had to change it because they didn’t like the words aids and I didn’t know nick names were a thing

[near cedar]

Aha

Why the fuk is that word an issue xD

[sudden nymph]

I know I’m in a family friendly server too and they didn’t care it was a Pokémon shiny hunting server that didn’t like it

[frozen charm]

They're cringe

[sudden nymph]

I know but a lot of people there just give out shiny Pokémon for free

So I use it

Another thing that was weird is that a mod sent a private dm to me asking me to change it instead of just asking me on the server

Ok back to jojo

Do you guys think Jobin is alive or will he be revived somehow or is he just dead

[hard meteor]

i think he'll pull through somehow,him dying like this doesnt feel right

[sudden nymph]

Yeah also his stand just hasn’t done like anything yet it’s used it’s power in only one way and we still haven’t seen the other powers that we’re maybe hinted at

[wind scroll]

Can we talk about the uh ahem star birthmark on Josefumi’s back...?

[sudden nymph]

no

[wind scroll]

ok

[hard meteor]

not much to talk about, he has it in a photo and doesn't have it anymore

[near cedar]

Kira doesn't have it in that photo then has it again later

[heavy ledge]

some mod should pin the pros and cons of the birthmark so we dont have to write them all over again

[sudden nymph]

If we never bring it up again we don’t have to ever talk about it again

We should just wait and see what happens

[heavy ledge]

it will be brought up again, this has been going on every 2 weeks since february

[sudden nymph]

But why must people bring it up

[wind scroll]

Josefumi star birthmark

[heavy ledge]

because....

i dont know, ask them

[wind scroll]

Why do you have a star on your back

[heavy ledge]

its a tattoo i made myself because i wanted to be connected to my saviour

[wind scroll]

Ah.

[rocky stump]

guys where is the jojo lion

[sudden nymph]

The jojo lion was the friends we made along the way

🦁

@rocky stump

[rocky stump]

Woah it’s the jojo lion

Ask him if he knows where the joj butterfly is

[sudden nymph]

I asked him but all he said was funny valentine is the best jojo villain

🦁

• Funny valentine is the best jojo villain

[minor ore]

damn this lion spittin facts

[faint rivet]

hey lion you mis-pronounced Yoshikage Kira

[sudden nymph]

The jojo lion can do no wrong

[gritty thicket]

hey lion you mis-pronounced Yoshikage Kira
@faint rivet yokisage kirra

[faint rivet]

eh i'll take it

[gilded ferry]

All of those mysterious are pretty big

[kind owl]

@gilded ferry, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !

[gilded ferry]

Not like plot breaking but they're important to be answered

[spare sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt8-idcGzvc&disable_polymer=1&ab_channel=purmello

[ebon rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/641019499411144705/777367160975785994/3_DAYS_LEFT.mp4

[dapper patrol]

Please tell me that Jobin comes back to life ;-;

[proper hinge]

Hopefully not.

[near cedar]

We don't know

[young meteor]

He might still be alive but idk

[inland oyster]

He can’t die

Speed king still isn’t in the spine art yet

[proper hinge]

Sad.

[minor ore]

I heard rohan fans gonna love the new chapter

[proper hinge]

What?

Why?

[minor ore]

I don't know I just heard it somewhere but don't know if it's true

[proper hinge]

Where did you hear it?

[young meteor]

Huh

[minor ore]

wait nvm

I looked up again and it seems it was a dumb joke nvm

[young meteor]

Wonder what was the joke about.

[minor ore]

it's connected with leaks and I don't wanna spoil myself

[faint rivet]

Wait are the leaks out yet

[inland oyster]

No

[faint rivet]

Ah, okay

And is there really only one day left?

[inland oyster]

No it’s 3

[minor ore]

why is araki dropping chapters on such worse days

[proper hinge]

He doesn’t control when they come out ultra jump does right?

[minor ore]

yes

[noble haven]

Speed king still isn’t in the spine art yet
@inland oyster
using the spine art as proof for anything

..?

[viral plume]

Spine art?

Aaaaah

[faint rivet]

is that the french version of golden wind?

pretty sure france has all of the parts translated

[viral plume]

I still want german part 2

[faint rivet]

germany isn't real

wake up maxsus

[inland oyster]

@inland oyster

using the spine art as proof for anything
@noble haven Listen man, just trust me. The spine art usually focuses on an introduction of a new character or an event in the story, Speed King not appearing yet has me convinced that Jobin’s role in the story still ain’t over.

[wide flame]

^jobin lover right here

[noble haven]

Lol maybe you're right

[wide flame]

im also a jobin lover tho

[faint rivet]

i'm a jobin enjoyer

[hard meteor]

I too am a jobin lover

[near cedar]

I too like Jacksepticeye

[minor ore]

I too like James Charles

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 32 !

[heavy ledge]

I had jobin as my 4th favourite but ive been thinking bout tooru a lot

I feel dirty

[noble haven]

They're just fictional characters man

[heavy ledge]

Could u tell me what the hell is your problem with me because i dont recall saying anything to you ever

Are you going to make me feel uncomfortable every time i type something in here?

[inland oyster]

don't take it personally

huss does this to everyone

[ebon rampart]

That’s just huss for you lol

[heavy ledge]

I dont care

I dont have the confidence to be mocked on by them

And it makes me feel uneasy

I said something the other day as half of a joke and they started questioning my personal decisions

[noble haven]

Damn man

It's just discord

[quasi sorrel]

Read my status or bad

[heavy ledge]

I blocked you but it wont change what happened

[noble haven]

Lol

[junior coral]

3 days

[hard meteor]

hype

[heavy ledge]

Last month the translation was released at the same time it came out in jp

[violet loom]

im real excited

[heavy ledge]

It was kinda lucky bc i didnt get spoiled that time hehe

[inland oyster]

I think that was because HYMN (or whatever) got it leaked to them or smth

[heavy ledge]

Yea leaks were pretty early

[inland oyster]

Got real salty after dog park beat them previously lol

[violet loom]

are those translation teams?

[inland oyster]

Yes

Drama within the translation teams

[violet loom]

ok, im new to the hype train so i dont know like any of them

[heavy ledge]

They were both good but i can understand why there is fuss about it

[inland oyster]

I need an art Jojo drama, I want somebody to cancel me for a war crime

[junior coral]

It was the old translators getting mad at Dog Park for doing nothing

[cedar furnace]

an active jjl channel?? am i dreamin

[inland oyster]

Yes

You are asleep

[cedar furnace]

also dog park is awesome

[junior coral]

yes

he's just doing his own thing

[heavy ledge]

If u canna cancel artists then cancel me for doing the nasty

[hard meteor]

that drama was stupid

[junior coral]

they're getting mad at him because they think they have a monopoly on the translating business but who tf cares

it's not like he's translating over their work, he's doing it all from scratch

so good on him

[inland oyster]

They’re not that far apart from each other. Last chapter was more or less the same between both.

[heavy ledge]

What business tho, they arent getting paid afaik. Dont know anything about that

[inland oyster]

Dog park just sounds more human I suppose

[junior coral]

exactly

yes

[inland oyster]

It’s a hobby and people take these hobbies more seriously than they’re supposed to

[heavy ledge]

I feel that

[noble haven]

dogpark is more human and is as accurate as HWMN

so dogpark for me

[heavy ledge]

I draw for "fun" but its been frustrating too

I can see why they might get frustrated as well

[violet loom]

i have the HWMN translations on my pc, i didnt know that dog park existed so ill have to check him out

[cedar furnace]

is the new chapter tomorrow or tuesday

[heavy ledge]

Check dog hes cool

[loud lintel]

Tuesday I think

[junior coral]

yer

[inland oyster]

Might get a preview by then

[junior coral]

2 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes and 5 seconds until JJL Chapter 102 releases in Japan

so basically 3 days

[cedar furnace]

rip i thought it was tomorrow

oh well

[junior coral]

lol

[cedar furnace]

gives me time to watch the smp

[violet loom]

I dont think a whole lot is going to happen in the chapter, i just have that feeling.

[junior coral]

I feel like it will

[loud lintel]

Same

[violet loom]

but im hoping for something big

[junior coral]

yeah

[feral saffron]

the next chapter is around the 17th isn't it

[junior coral]

WOAH LEAKS WOAH

[cedar furnace]

I dont think a whole lot is going to happen in the chapter, i just have that feeling.
this or ||rai is gonna die||

[violet loom]

lmao

[hard meteor]

its the funny king crimson

[loud lintel]

I feel like It will be about gappy Vs head doctor only

[cedar furnace]

do we have to tag here

[junior coral]

he's def dead

[feral saffron]

100% dead

[violet loom]

you never know

[junior coral]

I don't think so

[loud lintel]

He dead ye😔

[inland oyster]

It better not be 30 pages again

[hard meteor]

hes gone

[feral saffron]

as for jobin, idk

[junior coral]

I would spoiler tag if there's someone here that hasn't caught up

[loud lintel]

That's why I have this pfp, to mourn his death

[inland oyster]

Last chapter was a setup chapter so I have a feeling this one is gonna do a lot

[junior coral]

otherwise we're good

[cedar furnace]

i hope jobin lives

i like jobin

[inland oyster]

Jobin’s absolutely gonna live

[junior coral]

Jobin better kick Tooru's ass and become the main villain

[feral saffron]

same, he's my favourite jojo character

[loud lintel]

Yeah

[hard meteor]

jobin probably has a fair chance of living id say

[violet loom]

same

[junior coral]

Rai on the other hand...

[inland oyster]

No question about it, there’s still more for him to do.

Rai’s absolutely dead though

[loud lintel]

Rai😔

[feral saffron]

rai 😔

[violet loom]

rai 😔

[junior coral]

I feel as though there will be some sort of Bites the Dust rewind time situation event coming up soon

[inland oyster]

There is a hole in his chest and he goes unconscious in chapter 101

[junior coral]

mark my worms - SO WRONG IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY 💔 number 8

[inland oyster]

He’s def dead

[cedar furnace]

iirc i share an mbti type with tooru

[kind owl]

@cedar furnace, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

[cedar furnace]

cool

[loud lintel]

Bruh he was smelling death even when he was introduced

[junior coral]

lmao

[inland oyster]

I just don’t want more fakeouts man

[junior coral]

Rai is def dead

[inland oyster]

Noriuske?

[junior coral]

I wouldn't be surprised of Norisuke didn't make it

[violet loom]

somehow Josuke splits back into Kira and Josefumi and Kira gets Bites the Dust. that would be so balls but interesting

[junior coral]

lmaooo

[loud lintel]

Probably he will?

[hard meteor]

that would suck so much

[junior coral]

Josuke eats the Loccocaca and gains a new ability

Oh shit

[heavy ledge]

Be so balls, i learnt something new and funny

[inland oyster]

I think by this point there’s not much left for him to do. He completed Jobin’s arc by being a ‘necessary sacrifice’.

[cedar furnace]

somehow Josuke splits back into Kira and Josefumi and Kira gets Bites the Dust. that would be so balls but interesting
or like S&W pulls a stray cat and exploding bubbles

yknow

[junior coral]

Just realized that we don't know what the New Loccocaca does to Stand abilities right?

Paisley Park Requiem next chapter guys!

[inland oyster]

Normal locacaca doesn’t do anything by default

[junior coral]

yeah but it's the new one

[heavy ledge]

New rokakaka or new locacaca

[violet loom]

i want him to get some more spin stuff

[cedar furnace]

oh yeah it might do ssomethin to yasuho

[junior coral]

same thing

[cedar furnace]

rai zeppeli

[junior coral]

Paisley Park and Nut King Call Requiem

[inland oyster]

Nothing happened to Paisley Park as far as we know

[cedar furnace]

hate joshu

[loud lintel]

Rokakaka sounds better

NO

[junior coral]

Loccocaca sounds better

cause it means crazy shit in spanish

[inland oyster]

Flash forward’s gonna be a mess

[cedar furnace]

rokakaka is beter

[inland oyster]

I can feel it, there’s going to be a few retcons.

[heavy ledge]

Bc the new rokakaka fused the stands and the new locacaca just doesnt so anything bc soft and wet is stilm the same?

[junior coral]

That's why I think there's gonna be a BTD event coming up. Why would everything in the flash forward be all happy go-lucky with all of this bs happening ???

[inland oyster]

The wall eyes fuse stands, roka’s don’t do anything

[noble haven]

No question about it, there’s still more for him to do.
@inland oyster no there is a question

jobin lovers getting really confident these past few days

[heavy ledge]

Im just getting pissed at thinking about BTD

[inland oyster]

Past few days? I’m always confident in Jobin

[junior coral]

Softo ando Wetto Biteza Dusto

[hard meteor]

damn that flashforward really does make less and less sense as time goes on

[noble haven]

damn this mf dedicated differently

[junior coral]

damn that flashforward really does make less and less sense as time goes on
LMAO

[hard meteor]

ftr a real one

[inland oyster]

He can’t be dead, if he’s dead my opinion for Araki as a writer will go down

[loud lintel]

How many chapters since we show jobin again?

[inland oyster]

He’s just not done yet, not fully baked

[junior coral]

Joshu claims Jobin is dead HENCE why there has to be some time rewind or something

[heavy ledge]

We know that either california king bed or pmk can manipulate people

[inland oyster]

It can’t be a time rewind because you know

It happens in the future lol

[junior coral]

This is a classic trope! Kill off a bunch of characters the rewind time!! I've seen it many times before!! Araki has done it before as well !!

[inland oyster]

The flash forward states that it happens after the events of WOU

[loud lintel]

Joshu prolly hasn't even seen jobin, so maybe he isn't to take seriously

[junior coral]

i understand that

[violet loom]

if anyone wants to ill talk part 8 in the jojo discussion channel, im playing minecraft so its hard to type and play at the same time

[hard meteor]

yeah i doubt its time related

[junior coral]

rewind time > time passes > flash forward occurs

[inland oyster]

Joshu isn’t reliable

[hard meteor]

probably an illusion or something

[junior coral]

no he is not

Joshu is based

[loud lintel]

He truly isnt

[inland oyster]

But if time rewinded to save everyone then why is Noriuske still dying

[violet loom]

joshu gets like the most overpowered stand upgrade somehow

[heavy ledge]

His stand is already cool

[junior coral]

Nut King Call's evolution: DEEZ NUTS

[violet loom]

i really like NKC but i hate Joshu

[inland oyster]

It’s related to Tsurugi. He’s gonna get some new ability after being saved.

That’s my bet

[junior coral]

mayhaps Tsurugi is the main villain !?!?!?!??!

holy shit what if though

[noble haven]

I really like NKC but i love joshu

[violet loom]

that would be a twist

[cedar furnace]

nonono

[heavy ledge]

Shady lil dude

[noble haven]

joshu haters cope and seethe dilate

[loud lintel]

Joshu is a good character but after chapter 101 I am questioning his actions

[inland oyster]

Tsurugi dies by the end, that’s another bet of mine

[junior coral]

Cringe ask nay nay baby

[cedar furnace]

tooru is MV

at this point, he has to be

[inland oyster]

No

[junior coral]

Jobin

has to be

Tooru was just revealed 20 chapters ago

[noble haven]

If by some miracle it's Kaato it would make sense

[inland oyster]

Dude got introduced 20 chapters ago and we still don’t know anything about him. He’s not the MV.

[junior coral]

no

no

no

[cedar furnace]

kaato fuckin dipped

[noble haven]

Kaato would've been using Jobin

[junior coral]

it's not kato

[noble haven]

yeah it's probably not

[loud lintel]

But tsurugi is alive on the flashforward-

[junior coral]

so is Jobin

[inland oyster]

I don’t like to think of them as MV’s anyways.

[loud lintel]

And Joshu has both his arms😳

[noble haven]

think about it what u like

[inland oyster]

Kaato/Jobin are gonna be the remaining antags after Tooru is brutally murdered

[noble haven]

but there is definitely the main villain

Kaato/Jobin are gonna be the remaining antags after Tooru is brutally murdered
@inland oyster
assuming tooru is brutally murdered

LOL POGGERS

[junior coral]

Kaato is not gonna be the main villain

[loud lintel]

Yea

She probably just gonna save tsurugi or smth

[junior coral]

What kind of main villain shows up for three seconds in the middle of the series then dips

[cedar furnace]

what if its like sbr

where like

jobin is a mv but not as major as tooru

like diego and FV

yknow

[junior coral]

She serves as Jobin's motivation though!! Which is why he is perfect for the main villain !!

[noble haven]

he's the diego of the part you mean

yeah that might be it

[cedar furnace]

ye

[hard meteor]

diego wasnt really a mv

[junior coral]

the diego?

[noble haven]

he was a rival

[violet loom]

nobody has said Dio in the part yet where is he

[cedar furnace]

diego brando

[noble haven]

the main rival to be precise

[junior coral]

Alternate Diego was more of a final boss than a main antagonist though

[cedar furnace]

maybe it'll be like that hobin

jobin

with

[junior coral]

hrm

[violet loom]

i loved that Alternate Diego fight

[cedar furnace]

with jobin

[junior coral]

alternate Diavolo fight

also guys

we can't ignore the similarities between Doppio/Diavolo and Tooru/ Satoru

[inland oyster]

What kind of main villain shows up for three seconds in the middle of the series then dips
@junior coral Hasn’t every Jojo villain done this lol.

[junior coral]

no?

!?

[noble haven]

Kira

Diavolo

[inland oyster]

They disappear for a big portion of the part and then come back when stakes get progressively higher and higher.

[loud lintel]

Kira in the manga only tho

[noble haven]

Dio

yeah exactly

[cedar furnace]

pillar men kinda

[junior coral]

Diavolo is talked about the whole time

[cedar furnace]

mainly kars

[noble haven]

and the manga is the main canon

lol

[junior coral]

Dio is in episode 1

he's known

[inland oyster]

Obviously not as large as 30 chapters but it’s still a trend.

[junior coral]

Kira shows up halfway through but makes a difference

[inland oyster]

I wouldn’t count her out because of that. Think about the role of her character peeps

[junior coral]

In Kaato's case she's in like 4 chapters and never appears again

eh

idunno

[violet loom]

i hope Kaato isnt the main villain and i dont think she is

[kind owl]

@violet loom, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[junior coral]

me neither

actually uys

[inland oyster]

She could be a really fun villain imo. Just needs more fleshing out because we barely know that much about her.

[junior coral]

guys

she literally appears physically in one single chapter

that isn't a flashback

[noble haven]

could she really be fleshed out in like

15-20 chapters

[inland oyster]

Yes

[noble haven]

since that's probably when jojolion is ending

maybe

[hard meteor]

its possible

[violet loom]

yeah she could but it would have to be quick

[inland oyster]

Can’t you use that logic against Tooru lol

[loud lintel]

Hm yeah

[junior coral]

ehhh

[noble haven]

tooru hasnt been that fleshed out to me yet lol

[junior coral]

Here's how I see it

[violet loom]

same

i still have no fucking clue whats going on anyway

[inland oyster]

I’m waiting to see Tooru’s motivation and more of Kaato

[junior coral]

Tamaki Damo is the main antagonist for the first half of the part, and Tooru is the main antagonist for the second half

[noble haven]

no??

[junior coral]

kind of

think about it

[loud lintel]

Tooru is behind everything, kida

[inland oyster]

Tamaki is barely a part of the story

[violet loom]

maybe like a main villain duo where the final fight is against two villains?

[noble haven]

tamaki damo was working under someone in the locacaca organization

he would've never been the main villain

[junior coral]

there was the drug traders that Jobin was a part of that were the villainous faction for the first half, now we're dealing with the doctors

[inland oyster]

He’s there for 1 fight and is just a goon

[junior coral]

there's no way they can introduce more rock humans now

another orginization

[noble haven]

Damo was a goon

he was never the main villain

[junior coral]

no

i mean

man

[noble haven]

and never was gonna be

[loud lintel]

He was working under head doctor aka Tooru

[junior coral]

that's not what I meant

he was the antagonist for the first half, leader of the drug group

[violet loom]

mmmmm yummy bees

[noble haven]

i mean

[junior coral]

man this wait is gonna kill me lol

[noble haven]

we didnt really see much of the drug group in the first half lol

not to mention damo only appeared for 1 arc

and dipped

no not dipped

he died

brutally

[junior coral]

the drug group was what killed Kira and Josefumi though

That was the catalyst that started the whole part

Once they were dealt with, then the doctors took over as the villains

and in fact

Satoru Akefu appeared way earlier than Tooru

[noble haven]

the drug group was still working under someone

[junior coral]

so I'd count that as Tooru technically appearing since that's his stand

yes the doctors

[noble haven]

which was the main locacaca organization

if you think about it

[junior coral]

the doctors

yes

[noble haven]

all jojo main villains were like

the highest

of their role

if that makes sense

Except Pucci

But even Pucci can be excusable because Dio was dead

[junior coral]

he was

no but hold on

Tooru/ Satoru and Doppio/Diavolo

it's the same situation

[noble haven]

not really

[junior coral]

Hear me out

[violet loom]

imagine if josuke says fuck it and just forces Tooru to fuse with him

[junior coral]

They're both the leaders of their respective orginizations, but hide behind their alternate identities to keep their true selves a secret. Tooru/ Diavolo are the masterminds but hide behind Satoru/ Doppio to get things done in the shadows

Quite literally the same situation

prove me wrong

[quasi sorrel]

Do re mi fa so la ti do moment

[violet loom]

you are correct, but i dont know if that was done on purpose

[noble haven]

I'd argue it's because Doppio was actually the main personality and overtook by Diavolo

[crude sedge]

Should i read jojolion??

[violet loom]

yes

[noble haven]

Mf

[junior coral]

Um????!?

yeah????

[noble haven]

get out of the chat

[junior coral]

What are you doing here mate

[crude sedge]

Lol

[noble haven]

Spoilers god damn

[junior coral]

Have you read SBR?

[crude sedge]

Ye

[junior coral]

okay mate

[noble haven]

then yeah

read jojolion

[junior coral]

read JJL

[noble haven]

for sure

great part

[junior coral]

also get out of here

[noble haven]

with great storytelling

[crude sedge]

Alr ty

[inland oyster]

Probably wouldn’t be too lost without reading SBR ngl

[junior coral]

spoilers

[noble haven]

and suspesne

and stuff

so yeah

[crude sedge]

Ye i will 😂

[junior coral]

yes you would are you kidding adum

[cedar furnace]

Should i read jojolion??
@crude sedge fair warning

its horny in main

[faint rivet]

Dang of course I'm late to the active jojolion discussion

[junior coral]

also best part

[inland oyster]

I think Araki stated that he wrote JJL to be an easy introduction to Jojo

[noble haven]

JJL pretty much explains what's going on

[junior coral]

man

[minor ore]

JoJolion is pretty understandable by itself

[noble haven]

and it's also the best part

[crude sedge]

Damn

[cedar furnace]

jjl is also very weird

[junior coral]

nah man

[inland oyster]

And that you could just start there

[cedar furnace]

bizzare almost

[crude sedge]

Bruh

Lol

[noble haven]

araki is still an epic businessman

[faint rivet]

[noble haven]

Imagine going to buy the latest ultra jump and it's like part 8

[junior coral]

what about the whole ||flashback to johnny?? mentioning the SBR race?? the corpse parts are literally essential to the plot are you kidding me||

[noble haven]

but then araki has some shit about

[junior coral]

Ryth don't read that

[noble haven]

"urm u actually have to read the first 7 parts teehee"

[junior coral]

no you don't

but you should read 7 before 8

that's common sense

[cedar furnace]

read 6 first

great part

[junior coral]

doi

[inland oyster]

Obviously you would lost on those specific details but overall it wouldn’t get that confusing. Since the plot doesn’t revolve around them.

[quasi sorrel]

No

[noble haven]

what about the whole ||flashback to johnny?? mentioning the SBR race?? the corpse parts are literally essential to the plot are you kidding me||
@junior coral
||That's all explained though||

[quasi sorrel]

Read my status first

[crude sedge]

Ive read 6

[noble haven]

||and the plot doesnt revolve around them either my g||

[junior coral]

I'd say read everything in order BUT if you HAD to skip to a part, skip to 7 then read 8 since they have nothing to do with the other parts

[minor ore]

The specific details of those aren't extremely important to the story, JoJolion does a pretty good job at letting you know what you need to know.

[junior coral]

||it do||

aye

whatever man

[noble haven]

?????

[inland oyster]

I agree but JJL does a good job at explaining things.

[quasi sorrel]

Read my status or bad

[junior coral]

nobody skips SBR anyway

[faint rivet]

@quasi sorrel can you stop with that please and thank you

[quasi sorrel]

[junior coral]

lmao

[cedar furnace]

i skipped part one so

[quasi sorrel]

Banned

[junior coral]

get out

[cedar furnace]

you'll be fine if you skip a part

wait wait

no

[junior coral]

no

[cedar furnace]

i plan on watching it

[junior coral]

yeah no

[faint rivet]

Read part one

[noble haven]

based

[junior coral]

okay then watch it

[quasi sorrel]

@quasi sorrel can you stop with that please and thank you
@faint rivet you can’t stop the calamity

[cedar furnace]

i just dont have time

[quasi sorrel]

[junior coral]

man

[noble haven]

he skipped the first part

[junior coral]

L

[noble haven]

basedado

[junior coral]

no

fuck you

[cedar furnace]

i do love battle tendency

[noble haven]

also he skipped a bad part

so even more basedado

[junior coral]

no you're stupid

[faint rivet]

You gotta take in the story of part one

[junior coral]

fuck you

[noble haven]

lol

[minor ore]

It's fine to skip any part

[cedar furnace]

i also dont like part 5

[inland oyster]

Imagine reading Jojo in the first place

[faint rivet]

Really considering blocking huss

[quasi sorrel]

Skip 5 it’s bad

[junior coral]

no it's not

god i hate this server

[quasi sorrel]

Jk

[faint rivet]

Don't skip any parts

[cedar furnace]

i skipped most of part 4

[quasi sorrel]

i skipped most of part 4
@cedar furnace brug

[violet loom]

I really dont support skipping any parts

[junior coral]

L

[quasi sorrel]

Banned

[loud lintel]

Bruh

[quasi sorrel]

Get out

[loud lintel]

Wtf

[junior coral]

don't skip anything

what is wrong with you

[cedar furnace]

i do plan on going back

trust me

[faint rivet]

Part 4 is the second best part smh

[cedar furnace]

i just dont have time

[junior coral]

WA???

[noble haven]

jojo fans when someone skips DA POGGERSINO PART 1 WHICH ACTUALLY SUCKS

[cedar furnace]

i also dont like slice of life and i hate kira

[loud lintel]

What Nate said

[minor ore]

Skip whatever you want if it that's what let's you enjoy the series the most.

[junior coral]

no one is forcing you people to finish jojo

take your time

[faint rivet]

Alright blocking huss now

[junior coral]

wym you have to time to watch part 1 but you can speed through the rest of them

[noble haven]

??

[junior coral]

such an L

seriously

[noble haven]

mf im not even talking to you

[inland oyster]

If we’re being real here you can theoretically skip the first 6 parts and be content.

[junior coral]

I said that earlier

[cedar furnace]

ive watched battle tedency about 3 times

[noble haven]

even if you have time to watch part 1

just dont tbh

[junior coral]

you suck

[inland oyster]

He does

But he’s right

[junior coral]

no

[cedar furnace]

no i just have good taste in men

[inland oyster]

😎👍

[quasi sorrel]

Part 4 is the second best part smh
@faint rivet facts

[cedar furnace]

no caesar emotes

sadge

[violet loom]

i have read/watched part 1 four times now

[noble haven]

you can also skip part 2

as it sucks

[junior coral]

no

fuck you

[faint rivet]

Even is part 1 isn't the greatest, you still gotta read/watch it

[noble haven]

same for 3

[cedar furnace]

ye you can skip part 2 if you want

[noble haven]

definitely read 4

[faint rivet]

Don't skip any parts

[noble haven]

maybe read part 5 if you feel like it

[violet loom]

you shouldnt skip part 3

[inland oyster]

This discussion fits #jojo-overall-discussion a lot more folks

[junior coral]

form your own opinion. if you don't like it fine but don't be telling other people it sucks

shus

shush

[noble haven]

then read 6 7 and 8

[faint rivet]

Skipping parts just ruins the flow of the story

[junior coral]

part skippers man

[loud lintel]

Yeah

[junior coral]

I gotta get outta here1!!

[inland oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc-dmc4-dante-shake-head-gif-5994889

[loud lintel]

That's a beautiful image wdym

[noble haven]

jojo fans when they try to connect parts 1-6 to 7-8 and say there is a flow between them

[junior coral]

no one said that

[hard meteor]

damn this chat was so good 10 minutes ago

[junior coral]

someone had to mention part skipping

losers

[loud lintel]

Now is just a bar fight again

[inland oyster]

Talk about mystery man

[noble haven]

OMG part skippers SUCK i dont even know why i hate them BUT THE COMMUNITY SAID SO SO THEY SUCK

[inland oyster]

Who is he?

[junior coral]

I know why I hate them

[inland oyster]

@quasi sorrel #manga-jojokes

[faint rivet]

You should read the story the way araki intended us to. Which is in the order of parts 1-6 and 7-8. No skips, no out of order parts, etc

[junior coral]

Because they're small brains

[quasi sorrel]

Banned jk

[noble haven]

araki never said he has a true order of jojo

[faint rivet]

But now let's get back to talking about jojolion

[noble haven]

he just released it

[violet loom]

i was just about to say that Nate

[inland oyster]

Talk about part skipping in #jojo-overall-discussion

[noble haven]

and given that he makes part 8 a good introduction to the series

he clearly doesnt have an order for jojo

[junior coral]

guys I'm gonna start watching My Hero Academia on season 3 because the first two sucked

fuck you

[quasi sorrel]

Do re mi fa so la ti do moment

[noble haven]

that is different

[faint rivet]

Like FTR just brought up, who is the mystery man?

[junior coral]

no it isn't

fuck you

[noble haven]

since they are directly and literally connected

so yeah

[junior coral]

it's a story

you read stories on chapter 1

idiot

baka

[violet loom]

the thing for me is you get spoiled for other parts by skipping and it dulls the experience of going back to that part

[noble haven]

part 1 and part 2 are like 50 years apart or some shit and there arent really much from the first part other than like le epic stone mask

[junior coral]

started watching Breaking Bad in the middle of the 15th episode

heard it started out slow

[noble haven]

bad comparison

[junior coral]

no it isn't

[minor ore]

Just consume media the way it gives you the most enjoyment, since that's the entire purpose of entertainment.

[noble haven]

failing hard green giorno

[loud lintel]

There are some connections between the parts but u can enjoy part 4 if u skipped 2 for example, it ain't a big deal

[junior coral]

same shit different day

[inland oyster]

Folks.
I said #jojo-overall-discussion

[noble haven]

part 2 and part 3 are another 50 years apart

[junior coral]

what are you gonna do ban us all

[noble haven]

you miss out on old joseph but that's fine

i mean

young joseph

[junior coral]

no I

man

[quasi sorrel]

Do re mi fa so la ti do moment

[noble haven]

young joseph sucks anyways

[inland oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc4-dante-dmc-glad-ignored-gif-5967598

[faint rivet]

Listen to the trial mod, people

[junior coral]

mmmm nah

[noble haven]

so you're getting the good type of joseph which is old joseph

[quasi sorrel]

Banned

[inland oyster]

I kinda wanna keep this just for Jojolion chat, since that’s what it’s intended for

[quasi sorrel]

Do re mi fa so la ti do moment

[faint rivet]

Alright, jojolion time

[quasi sorrel]

Do re mi fa so la ti do moment

[faint rivet]

[quasi sorrel]

Ok I’m done

[faint rivet]

Thank you

[junior coral]

babies who want to discuss why the beginning of the series is able to be skipped can go into another channel

[inland oyster]

Like you

Shoo shoo

[junior coral]

little wittle itty bitty babies can't sit through 9 episodes

[faint rivet]

Or you can stop complaining about it here???

[junior coral]

fooey

[noble haven]

based chads cant sit through 9 bad episodes

[quasi sorrel]

[junior coral]

attention span of a mule

[quasi sorrel]

Jk I watched it

[noble haven]

you havent given a good argument since this started

in fact most of what you said has been "fuck you"

[junior coral]

How about it's common sense that you start a story at the beginning

[noble haven]

there is no common sense here if the man himself even says part 8 can be started with

[junior coral]

And the rest of the series loses momentum if you miss out on the literal beginning

[noble haven]

meaning there isnt exactly an order

[junior coral]

part 8 has nothing to fucking do with part 1

[faint rivet]

Part 1 was made to be the start of the story, part 2 as the second part of the story, and so on

[noble haven]

ok....?

[faint rivet]

But can we please shut up about part skipping here?

[cedar furnace]

guys lets just

[kind owl]

@cedar furnace, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !

[cedar furnace]

not argue

[junior coral]

"um actually"

[violet loom]

yeah part skipping is a touchy subject

[junior coral]

"based chads umm"

[violet loom]

we should talk about part 8

[faint rivet]

Yeah let's talk about the best part

[cedar furnace]

if you really get offended with part skipping,,, why

also yeah lets do that

anyway jobin is hot

[faint rivet]

Very

[violet loom]

||and dead lmao||

[cedar furnace]

shshshhhhshsshh

only maybe

[faint rivet]

I don't think he is

[violet loom]

neither do i

i was just making a jojoke

||if he died like that then that was a sucky death||

[noble haven]

jobin is hot and dead

idk why you're spoiler tagging

[loud lintel]

Yes

[noble haven]

if he died like that then that was a sucky death

[violet loom]

just in case anyone hasnt read the latest chapters

but i guess it doesnt matter

[faint rivet]

I still support my theory that he could've used speed king to cauterize his wounds to stop the bleeding and survive

[noble haven]

then they shouldnt be here

[faint rivet]

Unless there's a person here who tells us specifically that they aren't caught up, we can talk about spoilers freely

[violet loom]

oh ok

[faint rivet]

Basically we just shouldn't intentionally spoil it for people

[violet loom]

then i shall not spoiler tag

[noble haven]

Honestly if they're not caught up im gonna tell them to just

not go to this channel

that it's offlimits

[quasi sorrel]

Do re mi fa so la ti do moment

[faint rivet]

Anyways

[quasi sorrel]

[faint rivet]

He is groovin

[violet loom]

if josuke gets a stand upgrade what would do you think would be the upgrade

[faint rivet]

Probably my favorite araki sketch

[violet loom]

that looks really cool

[noble haven]

aint he dead

[loud lintel]

Explosive bubbles

Wait, he already has that

Nvm

[quasi sorrel]

Kira moment

[violet loom]

im thinking something like Cream

large erasing bubble

[noble haven]

first of all

[quasi sorrel]

Bubble with no visibility

[faint rivet]

Nah he just gets king Crimson

[noble haven]

why in the hell would he get a stand upgrade

[violet loom]

idk its hypothetical

[faint rivet]

2 stands at once

Or I guess it would be 3 with king Crimson

[violet loom]

lmao

[hard meteor]

why is that even a thing, him getting king crimson makes no sense

[violet loom]

But hear me out

King Crimson

[quasi sorrel]

Do re mi fa so la ti do moment

[faint rivet]

You said you were done

[quasi sorrel]

Part 2

[minor ore]

I don't think this part is also going to end with a Stand getting a power up to defeat the bad guy again.

[inland oyster]

^

[faint rivet]

I don't want a power-up

[violet loom]

same

[faint rivet]

I want Josuke to defeat WoU or whoever the villain is with sheer power and skill

[inland oyster]

The spin is the only upgrade but that’s just improving your usage of an ability. Similar to Jolyne’s move in the C-moon fight

[faint rivet]

With the mobius strip?

[inland oyster]

Yeah

I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t have worked because the strings themselves would get turned inside out but whatever

[violet loom]

we dont talk logic in jojo

[faint rivet]

This is the series where a monkey was the captain of a ghost pirate ship

Things aren't supposed to make sense

[violet loom]

lmao yeah

[faint rivet]

Lovely man

[violet loom]

i love part 8 kira

[quasi sorrel]

Part 4 kira better

[violet loom]

how did i know you were going to say that

[faint rivet]

Wish we saw more from Kir8

[cedar furnace]

kir8 is better because i hate kir4

[noble haven]

omgggg jojo no logic

for the most part jojo makes sense in its universe

by our standards it is nowhere near logical

[faint rivet]

Yeah

[sudden nymph]

Except dio’s bone but other than that yeah

[cedar furnace]

i've dubbed almost each jojo part with its true name

bullshit tendency

[violet loom]

lmao

[cedar furnace]

asspull is unbreakable

[noble haven]

there havent been many asspulls in jojo

[cedar furnace]

BULLSHIT OCEANS

im still mad over Heavy Weather

[sudden nymph]

Time stop is really the only asspull

[violet loom]

i dont agree that time stop was an asspull

it was hinted at since the beginning

but it was a surprise i will agree

[sudden nymph]

How was it hinted I’m not disagreeing I’m just asking

[violet loom]

Araki created star platinum and the world first, so he knew since the beginning (not really a hint but yeah). Second, when the bullet was shot at Jotaro's head star platinum moved almost instantly. In the darby fight he lit his cigarette in the beginning and also got a drink (not the beginning but still a hint). Star Platinum was fast, but those moments wasn't just speed, it was time stop.

[sudden nymph]

I agree with that first sentence but I think those others were just him moving fast

And the things he did were pretty fast to do actions

[violet loom]

for him to get the drink imo should not have been that fast. We have seen jotaro in combat, if he could grab that drink that fast then theoretically all of his opponents would have been fucked so quick.

[sudden nymph]

we were seeing that from Darby’s point of view and he wasn’t really paying attention

[violet loom]

that is fair

[kind owl]

@violet loom, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

[violet loom]

but im still standing by it

[noble haven]

we dont know if it was darby's pov though

[sudden nymph]

We were hearing Darby’s thoughts and we seeing in his direction it might have not been his POV but you can see he isn’t paying attention

@violet loom and yeah you can think that if you want

[violet loom]

Yeah, im glad we were able to have a civil argument

[sudden nymph]

Me too

[faint rivet]

Now if only the part skipping argument could've gone like that

[hard meteor]

Now if only it didn’t happen in this channel

[faint rivet]

Let's not bring that back up

[violet loom]

might have been a good thing for this chat

we would have more people in the argument lmao

that would be chaos

[hasty heart]

IS

[kind owl]

@hasty heart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 9 !

[hasty heart]

there a preview yet

[inland oyster]

No

[junior coral]

probably not till tomorrow at the earliest

[feral saffron]

I just found a fan made theme for gappy

[junior coral]

okay

[rocky stump]

guys where is the jojo lion

[ocean mirage]

dude

there is no lion in this part

araki is now a known liar

do you think that araki knows how this part gonna end ?

or is he just going with the flow here

[faint rivet]

He's going with the flow of calamity

[sudden nymph]

🦁

Here he is you may ask one question and he will answer

He said he would actually answer the question this time

@rocky stump

[noble vigil]

wait chapter 102 comes on tuesday correct?

or wednesday\

[winter ridge]

I thought it was tomorrow

Idk

[hard meteor]

it drops Tuesday

[noble vigil]

nice

should be a good chapter

hopefully not super short like the last one

[near cedar]

70 pages

Let's go

[faint rivet]

70 pages would be awesome

[wind scroll]

You know, the stands in this part, and I don’t hate them. They’re just not as simple as the ones in the first few parts. And the stand names are kinda whack. Not really a name I’d yell out in public

Not like ZA WARUDO or KING CRIMSON

[faint rivet]

I like the stands in this part more than any other part

[near cedar]

I don't

They are cool

But

[wind scroll]

yeah

[faint rivet]

Albeit the names are stranger, but the stands themselves are really cool

[wind scroll]

They are pretty cool

But their abilities are hard for me to remember

[faint rivet]

I like that the stands aren't just big punch ghosts, they each have unique abilities and their battles focus on skill, psychology, and mastery of their abilities

[wind scroll]

Like I can easily remember every stand ability in parts 3-5

[faint rivet]

Also the stand designs are really cool for the most part

[wind scroll]

yeah

[faint rivet]

Soft and Wet might be my favorite main jojo's stand

[wind scroll]

Yeah it’s pretty cool

I know Tooru’s gonna get a new look because, Tooru right now doesn’t really look like a villain

[faint rivet]

Yo what if S&W stole someone's heart or ability to breathe

It could kill someone so easily

[wind scroll]

Well. It can steal someone’s eyesight so maybe.

[faint rivet]

And according to EOH it can steal someone's friction

[wind scroll]

Yes

Slip n slide

[faint rivet]

Just steal someone's brain

They can't do anything then

[hard meteor]

Eoh isn’t canon,but he does steal ojiros friction

[faint rivet]

I somehow don't remember that, but yet I remember Josuke and Joshu's Dual Heat Attack from EOH

[wind scroll]

Eoh isn’t canon because Diavolo doesn’t die

If he does, it’s canon. But he doesn’t

[faint rivet]

Eh, it's been proven that my memory is hot garbage, so it makes sense I don't remember that

[wind scroll]

Dw bro my memory is also hot garbage

So you’re not alone

[faint rivet]

I legit didn't know about the mystery man until people on here brought it up

[frozen charm]

Do you guys pronounce tooru like toe-rue or like tor-rue

Hmmm

[winter ridge]

It should be tor-rue

[errant prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=657_DXOOhcQ

Do you guys pronounce tooru like toe-rue or like tor-rue
It's pronounced like that : https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr#view=home&op=translate&sl=ja&tl=ja&text=とおる

[frozen charm]

Ok so I was pronouncing it right

Ish

I've just seen people pronounce it toe-rue

[junior coral]

It's pronounced Taurus

[faint rivet]

Too-roo

[frozen charm]

What

[junior coral]

Tour-Rouse

[frozen charm]

I thought it was pronounce too-rooster

[junior coral]

I believe it's actually Two-row

[frozen charm]

Nah

[faint rivet]

Too-ruh

[frozen charm]

It's truhruh

[junior coral]

Toe-Roast

[faint rivet]

Let's just call him todd

[frozen charm]

Yea

Where is red giorno???

[faint rivet]

And blue Giorno

No wait that's just Manga Giorno

[junior coral]

heh

[kind owl]

@junior coral, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 12 !

[junior coral]

I killed them

Only one can remain

Todd

[simple kraken]

Todd

[sudden nymph]

Todd

[errant prairie]

"Which Anime Character Are You"
Todd

[faint holly]

Todd the Fall Out™️ guy

[young meteor]

You forgot to edit the address bar.

[junior coral]

SHITE

[primal lintel]

I see you running windows zero

[junior coral]

I'm on my grandmas computer

[primal lintel]

Well give it back

[junior coral]

no

[half cobalt]

what do mean to the story?

Todd

[frozen charm]

Joshu one shot/ light novel when????

[junior coral]

now

[near cedar]

If he just acts like how he's acted till now

Never