#jojolion

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ember light
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pog

faint rivet
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Higashikata Joshu does not move

vocal mason
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TSKR is one of those interesting title translations

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because literal translation doesnt always work

faint rivet
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Joshu is not crash

vocal mason
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I'm sure in Japanese it makes perfect sense

faint rivet
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Most likely

vocal mason
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also yeah

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Diamond is not Crash

minor ore
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if I think about it... diamond is unbreakable is such a dumb title

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it's like saying water is wet

vocal mason
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all of them are lol

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Battle Tendency

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, Stardust Crusaders

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The jojo lion

lost slate
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golden wind

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stone ocean

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(that one kinda makes sense)

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steel ball run

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which is a really stupid name for a race

vocal mason
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Is Stone Ocean the only part where they mention the title

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other than SBR

faint rivet
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they say stardust in the first opening of part 3 so it counts

kind owlBOT
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@faint rivet, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 27 !

lost slate
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i get that sbr is made by stephen steel, but where did the 'ball' and 'run' come from

vocal mason
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the names of the parts weren't introduced until part 6

lost slate
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ball is only a reference to the steel balls

vocal mason
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they used to be different

lost slate
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but it makes sense for it to be called 'steel ball race'

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especially because most people aren't running, the horses are

faint rivet
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maybe steven steel is secretly a zeppeli and knew about the steel balls đŸ€”

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and sandman also helped somehow and made it into the run

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idk im just spitting these theories out they make no sense

white beacon
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It's a reference to the cannonball race(?) So it makes some sense

vocal mason
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also the title of the series is more literally "JoJo's Strange Adventure"

white beacon
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Oh wait yeah the run part is weird, forgot about that

faint rivet
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Jojo No Kimyou Nabouken moment

lost slate
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oh yeah, it's probably a reference to 'cannonball run'

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but i wonder if they do any running in that

faint rivet
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seems like it has something to do with cars maybe

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this isnt jojo lion talk anymore doe

vocal mason
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there's no lion on this jojo discussion

faint rivet
frozen charm
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Joe joe's

faint rivet
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Does Joe have a lion

frozen charm
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No

faint rivet
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why not

frozen charm
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They're illegal

minor ore
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eggward

vocal mason
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if there is ever a part 9, do you think it'll be another time skip to Josuke's son, or would there be more joestar bloodline bullshitℱ

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assuming Josuke doesn't kick the bucket off a cliff by the end

faint rivet
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alternate universe giorno

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or maybe part 9 is just a fully illustrated jorge joestar

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that would make it canon

minor ore
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part 9 could be some endgame thing where all jojo's are fighting against some really strong villain idk

faint rivet
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Eyes of Heaven

minor ore
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no

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mo

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no

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not dio again

faint rivet
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It always comes back to dio

minor ore
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🍞 đŸ’©

faint rivet
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ok

urban kelp
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Worst Villains In Jojo:

  • DIO
  • Kira
  • Diavolo
  • Kars
  • Joshu’s Barber
kind chasm
ember light
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none of those are bad

wide flame
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what are you saying???

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joshu barber is the most evil villain

ember light
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Joshu barber is the most well written imo

urban kelp
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I mean worst as in most evil @ember light

ember light
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oh

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Im dumb

urban kelp
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Yeah. It’s ok.

wide flame
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Joshu barber is the most well written imo
@ember light yeah he being well written doesnt contradict him being evil

ember light
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nah Joshu barber is well written because he has a good side and bad side is what I meant

near cedar
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Worst Villains In Jojo:

  • DIO
  • Kira
  • Diavolo
  • Kars
  • Joshu’s Barber
    Forgot to say Pucci and Valentine
wide flame
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pUCci Nad ValEntiNE AeR noT eVVill

urban kelp
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Any villain that dabbles with the KKK is automatically evil, Pucci

ember light
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yes they are

near cedar
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Of all the things Pucci did you bring up one that wasn't intentional

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And Valentine doesn't need to be explained

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We know all the shit he did

wide flame
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valentin is national

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ist

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😳

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bad thin

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g

frozen charm
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Zen

wide flame
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i cant tell if

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pasok

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or

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pasok

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tell me

frozen charm
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Valentine is sus

frozen charm
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Jojolion ratt when???

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Alternate universe ratt is d8

minor ore
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@wide flame what about pasok

wide flame
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yeah

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pasok or

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paso

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k

minor ore
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?

wide flame
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i mean

minor ore
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Yea?

wide flame
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i now became one with the green sun

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what i have to accomplish now

minor ore
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Spread the word of Pasok

wide flame
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byeah

lost slate
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5 days till the Harvest of the New JoJolion joshunut joshunut joshunut

minor ore
loud lintel
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Every passing month we getting closer to the chapter where Joshu kills Tooru :0

faint rivet
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I would love to see that

inland oyster
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It’s gonna happen

frozen charm
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Joshu is going to

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Be joshu

upper knoll
frozen charm
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Joshu uses the spin on his nuts to unscrew them

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He also uses his nuts to send the spin into people

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Joshu is a spin user

inland oyster
heavy ledge
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Do you still think we will see joshu doing something

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How about more lore

faint rivet
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Well he went to help Yasuho and give her the Rokakaka, and Tooru was nearby

heavy ledge
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I crave lore

faint rivet
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They're definitely going to meet

inland oyster
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Joshu is gonna do something

heavy ledge
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But i mean this ch

frozen charm
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Joshu is going to unscrew toorus hair

faint rivet
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There is a tiny Wonder of U controlling him under that hair

frozen charm
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Yeaa

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Toorus hair is the only thing he cares about

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So he freaks out

inland oyster
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Shitposting aside

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Do you guys actually think Joshu is gonna fight Tooru in any capacity?

frozen charm
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I'm not shitposting

inland oyster
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There’s a chance they won’t even cross paths

frozen charm
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I mean

faint rivet
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Joshu and Tooru are definitely going to fight

frozen charm
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Joshu has the new rokakaka

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Tooru wants the new rokakaka

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He knows where it is

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It's exact percise location

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They're gonna cross paths

heavy ledge
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Tooru is going to play it cool bc no one knows he is an asshole and they wont fight. He is going to act up as if he is going to save yasuho

inland oyster
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I mean like.
What if Tooru gets killed by the duo at the hospital before he gets his hands on the rokak

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Or that too Josefumi

heavy ledge
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And yasuho still trusts him

inland oyster
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also heard this theory from none other than mono that WOU utilizes the spin

frozen charm
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Tooru is not real

inland oyster
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I’ve been thinking about it

heavy ledge
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The spin as in a concept of deflecting calamities towards his enemies? I didnt read anyrhing about it

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Or like a physical spin idk

frozen charm
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Joshu is still gonna be protective of yasuho

inland oyster
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Spin as a concept

faint rivet
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If Tooru is going to try to go after Yasuho, then Joshu will most definitely step in and try to stop him

inland oyster
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Tooru’s gonna play it safe

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He’s gonna fool both Yasuho and Joshu and take the rokakaka in some way.

frozen charm
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Joshus not gonna trust him

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Because

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He's joshu

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He might even use nut king call on him

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He's used it multiple times to get his way

heavy ledge
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By the way if joshu was always interested in yasuho perhaps he may know that she dated tooru

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đŸ€”

loud aurora
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real

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and not edited

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or drawn

inland oyster
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This man is a liar

faint rivet
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Holy crap chapter 101 is going to feature Dante from Devil May Cry

onyx tangle
frozen charm
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Not real

rancid aurora
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Not real
source?

onyx tangle
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faint rivet
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Their pfp is an awesome dog so they're reliable

heavy ledge
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I wish i could read japanese

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Or read in general

faint rivet
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it probably says jojolion somewhere on the page

heavy ledge
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I just know that it says rokakaka there

faint rivet
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I know the writing for "Jojo's"

inland oyster
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Huh that’s real?

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Nah I ain’t falling for it

faint rivet
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idk

loud aurora
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it's real

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100%

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cmon

inland oyster
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Mono

heavy ledge
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Its in japanese it has to be real

inland oyster
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You’ve lied to me too many times

loud aurora
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you're telling me you don't trust ME of all people

faint rivet
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The guy has an among us pfp so he can't be trusted

heavy ledge
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Sus

faint rivet
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I hate among us fans with a passion

heavy ledge
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I played like 4 times and got bored. it makes me anxious

loud aurora
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no friends to play with

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sadge guys

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unlucky

faint rivet
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its an alright game, but the fanbase is so annoying

loud aurora
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there's a fanbase? PepeLmfaoooo

heavy ledge
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Well if u play with friends ig its alright and it also makes you lose some

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Like uno

loud aurora
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nah it just weeds out the fake friends

inland oyster
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you’re telling me you don’t trust ME of all people
@loud aurora Yes.

faint rivet
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why do you keep posting kamen rider gifs

kind owlBOT
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@loud aurora, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

faint rivet
inland oyster
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These suits are slick

frozen charm
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source?
@rancid aurora not real

loud aurora
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real

zenith tangle
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Ayo

faint rivet
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h

zenith tangle
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That's milagro man

frozen charm
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Not real

faint rivet
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milgrow mann

frozen charm
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UwU

faint rivet
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ok

loud aurora
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real

frozen charm
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@loud aurora give me money

loud aurora
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no

frozen charm
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500 zimbabwe dollars

minor ore
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best pert

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part

frozen charm
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Ok how about 1 zimbabwe dollar

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Approximately 0.00276319 US dollars

frozen charm
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how poor is poor tom

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he doesnt seem very poor

heavy ledge
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i lafd

frozen charm
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why

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i mean hes a doctor

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so he isnt poor

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hes actually probably rich

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until he died

heavy ledge
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i laughed bc of the question

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dont mind me i have mental issues

ebon rampart
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so excited for the chapter

minor ore
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Volume 24 cover

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Not chapter cover

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Volume

loud aurora
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already posted

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🙂

minor ore
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Mono idc

loud aurora
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everyone doubts

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nooo shottt bucko

inland oyster
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That’s fake

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Mono is a liar

minor ore
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Everyone is tweeting about this it cant be one of monos

inland oyster
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It literally is

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He tweeted about it and deleted it

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The man can not be trusted

minor ore
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His tweet is still up wdym

loud aurora
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lmao

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i did not coerce multiple accounts including the jojo wiki members to go along with my prank

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no shot

minor ore
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Yeah wtf

loud aurora
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i posted it, it's real

minor ore
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I didn't say that

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You're still sus

inland oyster
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I refuse to believe you

loud aurora
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Then refuse

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wrong though

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unlucky

inland oyster
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I’m gonna be pissed if this is real

loud aurora
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It’s literally on the wiki kid

minor ore
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It's real ftr

flat adder
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Is gappy josuke 8

inland oyster
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I’m pissed

flat adder
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Hi pissed, i'm son

minor ore
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You indeed are

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Cause it's real

flat adder
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Is gappy josuke 8
@flat adder

minor ore
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@inland oyster

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what’s happenin

inland oyster
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Yes

minor ore
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is that fake or legit

inland oyster
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What

minor ore
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the volume cover

inland oyster
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I think it’s legit. It’s on the wiki

minor ore
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oh wow

loud aurora
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of course it's real

inland oyster
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Stay quiet

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Looks official

loud aurora
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nah

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no shot bucko

inland oyster
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Really boring though

frozen charm
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Not real

minor ore
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eh it looks clean for the most part

minor ore
frozen charm
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Not real

loud aurora
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unlucky

frozen charm
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Not real

minor ore
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What does the flower at the top right stand for

inland oyster
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It’s cool

frozen charm
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I personally asked them to put it there

minor ore
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Ok

kind sphinx
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Isn't that just the cover from August

white beacon
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No

kind owlBOT
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@white beacon, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 60 !

tired narwhal
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One thing that i love about jojolion is how the Head doctor is such a dangerous,yet "normal" stand.
Is not a flashy or a powerful combat stand,but it can make ordinary things lethal weapons. Is so terrifying

white beacon
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Lol that convo up top is sp funny

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Cuz if that's real then that's another miss from araki

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And that mono is in a "boy who cried wolf situation"

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Trick people a lot of times enough and they won't trust you ever

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Even if you have proofs

loud aurora
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i literally tricked people once lmao

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bitches take one L and they scarred for life

onyx tangle
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It'd be a weird thing to fake

kind owlBOT
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@onyx tangle, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !

white beacon
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I wouldn't dare trick peeps, that kinda stuff just don't seem right

loud aurora
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i mean now they're just tricking themselves

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this is arguably more fun

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since i dont even have to draw anything

ebon rampart
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ultimate troll

loud aurora
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exactly

inland oyster
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It works it works

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Fun to see people actually mad about it lol

noble haven
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mono tricks everyone

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everyone copes and seethe

simple kraken
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5/10 cover

inland oyster
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The true irony is mono’s credibility being shot to the floor

loud aurora
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funny thing is ill still be posting these shits

simple kraken
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Ok

loud aurora
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yeah the cover kinda lame

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oh well

white beacon
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Yeah, another complete miss from araki

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Along with half the part

inland oyster
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It looks boring

noble haven
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Along with half the part
@white beacon lol cap

inland oyster
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But I don’t wanna be mean. I just want 101

ebon rampart
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Couldnt care less about the vol cover

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Only focussed on 101 man

inland oyster
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101 the grind

loud aurora
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yeah ill post the 100% real preview that i got here in a few days

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dont worry

onyx tangle
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I just view volume covers as a fun side thing

inland oyster
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I wanna see who’s on the spine art

noble haven
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yeah ill post the 100% real preview that i got here in a few days
@loud aurora waiting for it bro

loud aurora
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good

noble haven
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big if true

inland oyster
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True

onyx tangle
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I believe it

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I'm always intrigued to see the spine art of each volume.

minor ore
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joshu

ebon rampart
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Or maybe we’ll see WoU in its roboty stand face form

sharp cipher
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JOSHUBROS

hard meteor
inland oyster
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✊â˜ș✊

minor ore
simple kraken
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Wait I thought we already saw this cove

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r

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Tooru was looking at the screws last time too

minor ore
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oh so it is fake

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oh nvm

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wrong thing

onyx tangle
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Im fairly certain is legit

frozen charm
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Josuke gets 2 steel balls

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Giving him 6 balls in total

zenith tangle
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I have 2 steel rods

frozen charm
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Cool

zenith tangle
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Thanks, have a good day

frozen charm
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Then buy the domain

snow heron
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Epic

gloomy reef
pseudo wind
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wonder of me

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jojo lion fans argueing over the incredibly vague and confusing abilties

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jojolion fans after redoing physics class to understand awaking 3 leaves

hard meteor
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probably one of the least confusing abilities tbh

pseudo wind
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wouldnt know never read jojo lion

hard meteor
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bruh

sharp cipher
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Speedreader-kun

zenith tangle
minor ore
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okay quick question

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does this part even have a main villain

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im on like chapter 30 and i cant really distinguish anyone as a main threat

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i feel like it might be jobin tho but im not sure

sharp cipher
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He appears at chapter 83

minor ore
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damn

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and isnt there like

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100 chapters so far

hard meteor
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yes

minor ore
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and im p sure this part started in 2011 so thats a long time to have an ongoing manga i feel

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but no rush for araki, gotta make sure he perfects that stuff~

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

minor ore
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ayy

serene pasture
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It's not really like, confirmed that he's the main villain, but he's definitely one of the biggest threat so far

minor ore
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ill be honest tho i dont know much about manga tho, the only manga ive ended up reading was basically all the unanimated jojo parts.

sharp cipher
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He is the main villain

ember light
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no

sharp cipher
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Everything leads to him

ember light
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it isnt confirmed

minor ore
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so i dont know if taking 9 years to write a manga and still have it ongoing is normal-

sharp cipher
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It isn't confirmed but all proof leads to believe it's him

serene pasture
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Everything leads to him
yeah i know "everything leads up to this man" haha but like

ember light
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||are you forgetting about kaato?||

serene pasture
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he's completely disconnected with arguably the main struggle of the part, he can't be the mv, or at least not the only one

ember light
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||maybe some shit can happen with Jobin Idk||

lost slate
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i dunno about that

ember light
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if its one thing jojolion has taught us

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its that its pointless to try to predict the future

lost slate
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yep

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you can't stop the flow

minor ore
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at least we are lucky to be a part of this ride

sharp cipher
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Kaato/Jobin is the High Voltage

minor ore
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im pretty sure most of us werent alive to experience almost all the parts of jojo being concieved so i guess this is what we have to enjoy

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and honestly im fine with that

ember light
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at least we dont have to wait through 30 years of serializing manga

minor ore
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a story is a story, and if i like that story im damn well gonna enjoy my time no matter how long i must wait

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LMAO true tho-

sharp cipher
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And i don't see whatever Kaato's power is being stronger than WoU

serene pasture
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Kaato/Jobin is the High Voltage
We aren't even at ||the flashback|| and we're already seemingly nearing the end of his arc so i don't see how he's the mv

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Strength in jojo doesn't exist ya dingus this ain't Dragon Ball

lost slate
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the only way it's possible is if ||kaato has infinite spin||

serene pasture
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Power is for the weak

lost slate
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which is pretty unlikely

ember light
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kaatos stand from what we've seen could be really interesting

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like can she transfer things between cards?

lost slate
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i hope she returns to ||save jobin|| or ||joshu||

ember light
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I think that could have some cool fights

lost slate
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maybe this chapter?

serene pasture
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||not joshu lol, joshu can save himself||

ember light
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yeah

sharp cipher
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Joshu is gonna have his moment soon

hard meteor
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Kaato/Jobin is the High Voltage
high voltage isnt really a good comparison,the higashikata side of the story has been the focus for a long time and theres alot of buildup on it in the flashforward

serene pasture
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||there's definitely some fuckery going on with the flashback so we'll probbly see her around that time||

lost slate
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hmm probably

ember light
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I swear if Araki really forgets about her I will be majorly disappointed

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but I doubt thats the case

hard meteor
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same

serene pasture
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I swear if Araki really forgets about her I will be majorly disappointed
he hasn't

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She's like, essential to jobin's character

lost slate
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i mean, he remembered enya and rai's backstory

hard meteor
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she'll defiantly play a larger role

lost slate
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no way he hasn't remembered way more important stuff

serene pasture
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Jobin might as well just be a puppet for her and her goals, at least for most of his appearances

simple kraken
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so we have the jobin side, the other higashikata side, the gappy side, and the tooru side

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And they all need the fruit, right

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and there's only 1 fruit

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damn

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that's gonna get really messy, isn't it

lost slate
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yep

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pretty sure it'll be like high voltage, where tooru is the main villain, but there's another threat after he's dead

near cedar
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Strength in jojo doesn't exist ya dingus this ain't Dragon Ball
Strength in jojo exists

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Strength of will, strength of fighting spirit, strength of resolve, strength of the stand

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You know, how not all stands can blow a hole in a wall with their fist

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That's called strength lmao

zenith tangle
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It just works

snow heron
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You forgot about Strength

kind sphinx
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Strength is the wall

near cedar
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Power is for the weak
Laughs in every main JoJo villain

serene pasture
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What i meant was strength in jojo, with a few exceptions, is not linear. Comparisons like Soft and Wet vs Stone Free or some shit are useless cause it'll ultimately come out to circumstance, strategy, shit like that. Wonder of U is definitely a terrifying ability, but it's not like, the peak of how terrifying a stand can get or whatever

old marlin
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JJL the new Part 3 let's go

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Oh my goodness

serene pasture
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Also it's not like Kaato needs to take out Tooru herself or whatever, Josuke and Joshu got that covered

old marlin
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PFFFFF

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Kaato.

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Please.

faint rivet
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Kaato is gonna reappear after all of the Wonder of U stuff and we will learn more about her stand and she will try to take the Rokakaka or something

simple kraken
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yeah power scaling in jojo is almost non existent

faint rivet
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And then it'll be revealed that she's a rock human

simple kraken
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besides like ger and love train and stuff like that

faint rivet
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It's more based on their mental skill and how well they can fight rather then how strong they are

simple kraken
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And even then it's iffy

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For example

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Tusk beats love train

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Tusk doesn't beat ger

faint rivet
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Superfly beats all

old marlin
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Mans said Wonder of U isn't the final stand fight

hard meteor
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cause it isnt

inland oyster
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^

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Y’all should listen to metal

hard meteor
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theres a large chunk of the story still going on outside of wonder of u

faint rivet
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Well Kaato still has to make another appearance so we can learn about her stand, so there could very well be more to come

serene pasture
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an understanding of pacing and basic level reading comprehension says it isn't

old marlin
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HAS to

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Just MUST make an appearance

faint rivet
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I'm just saying there's a good chance

serene pasture
faint rivet
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It's more likely than you think.

glass lily
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Every chapter that comes out, I hold out hope that she'll show up again

upper knoll
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Maybe it's time to show up at the higashikata estate

viral plume
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Lul

old marlin
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Spoilers coming soon who knows

proper hinge
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Very cool.

inland oyster
proper hinge
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Uncringe.

faint gust
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oh yeah the next chapter's gonna be a thing

proper hinge
#

No it won’t.

#

I, I ate it.

faint gust
#

gonna bet 20 dollars that the spin is getting debunked right now

inland oyster
#

Wdym?

faint gust
#

people just assume because of the 100th chapter that the spin rai uses is the same as part 7's

proper hinge
#

But it says that it’s not.

inland oyster
#

I’m betting you’re wrong 20 dollars

proper hinge
#

It says it’s the spin of the lines of Josk8s bubbles.

faint gust
#

there is NO reason he would know it
considering his past isn't anything like Gyro's, nor did he meet him nor Johnny

#

and if he somehow did know it how the fuck is Gappy gonna learn it in the heat of the moment

inland oyster
#

That’s we’ve been saying too lol

#

But I’m confident it’s the actual spin. Considering the way he phrases it

#

Something about revealing things within stands, all stands having it and him demonstrating it

faint gust
#

GAPPY REMEMBER
YOU ALWAYS HAD BITES THE DUST

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and then just undos everything and beats up the head doctor when he isn't looking

#

though for funsies, let's assume Rai does know the spin
how would we assume he learned it

#

did he see Johnny attempt to use it before he got crushed by a rock

inland oyster
#

To be fair. While it’s complete BS he might’ve talked to a descendant or learned about the spin from a master

faint gust
#

he's gonna be like "as a fruit manager lad that I was, I sometimes would play with the fruit. I found myself mostly sticking to pears. One day I thought what if I spun them? Their shape was the closest to that of a spinning top. So I did, everyday, until one moment that it happened."

hollow fog
#

Chapter 101 will be the higashikatas

#

Nothing new for josuke

proper hinge
#

I hope.

hollow fog
#

Cliffhanger gets extended 6 months

#

Right?

proper hinge
#

There better be some Katto and the Higishikata family picnic.

hollow fog
#

Thats what we are all thinking, right?

#

None of this "😳 👉 👈 nobody has ever gotten within 1cm..." shit

inland oyster
#

I doubt we’ll get a full Higashikata chapter yet. Maybe a little tease at the end

hollow fog
#

Yeah that's what im thinking

inland oyster
#

WOU fight still has to end

hollow fog
#

D4c fight took 30 chapters

ebon crown
#

chicken

kind owlBOT
#

@ebon crown, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

inland oyster
#

I don’t think WOU is on that scale imo

minor ore
#

I bet rai is dead tho which sucks cause I really liked him

inland oyster
#

We’re like nearing the end of the fight? Josuke’s getting some upgrade

proper hinge
#

Rai isn’t dead shut up.

hollow fog
#

He has a hole in his head

#

And his chest

minor ore
#

He basically just got introduced and now man is already dead RIP

hollow fog
#

And his other chest

#

And some other 4th place

proper hinge
#

But he was talking at the end.

#

About how soap lines go spinny.

hollow fog
#

Its all josukes fault dude

proper hinge
#

He’s fine shut up.

hollow fog
#

Those were 'his' bubbles.

proper hinge
#

Rai is okie dokie.

minor ore
#

I bet gappy is gonna have another breakdown cause that

proper hinge
#

But Rai’s okie.

#

He’s not dead.

hollow fog
#

Yeah just like gyro

minor ore
#

Yeah 💔

proper hinge
#

I actually believe he’s not dead.

#

Because he was talking.

hollow fog
#

Zombie horse

proper hinge
#

Like about something that I thought he’d continue so not desd.

#

*dead.

hollow fog
#

He could just be dying

minor ore
#

Well yeah but no way he survived that much

hollow fog
#

Gyro talked while dying too

#

And so have a lot of people

minor ore
#

He's not a donut he's a slice of swiss cheese

proper hinge
#

But.

#

He’s too cool to die.

hollow fog
#

Although rai survived getting fucking imploded.

#

Like how

minor ore
#

I hope araki likes him enough to revive him but not like him so much he kills him off

hollow fog
#

Wait, he liked tarkus?

proper hinge
#

I doubt it.

hollow fog
#

Wait, he liked magent magent?

kind owlBOT
#

@hollow fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

proper hinge
#

He was bad boi he get da ded.

hollow fog
#

Wait....

proper hinge
#

Everyone likes magenta magenta.

hollow fog
#

Magent magent technically has to die though right?

proper hinge
#

No.

#

I mean Angelo isn’t dead is he.

hollow fog
#

A stand is like a magnet, it will weaken over time eventually

#

Right?

#

Magent magent cant just sit there forever, can he?

#

;-;

inland oyster
#

He probably died to something

hollow fog
#

No

minor ore
#

Yeah I mean

hollow fog
#

He could undo the stand for a second and get a mouthful of water

inland oyster
#

Magenta magenta doesn’t have a fridge on the back unless I missed a retcon

hollow fog
#

That makes it hard to sit still

#

20th century boy makes him invincible

#

Its a time out

inland oyster
#

He stopped thinking didn’t he?

hollow fog
#

Apparently

inland oyster
#

He’ll die of starvation

hollow fog
#

No like

#

Iirc he can't

#

Thats why he strats bombs to hinself

minor ore
#

He had to have died to smth

hollow fog
#

He cant be interacted with

#

Although i guess he sank

proper hinge
#

Did book man die?

hollow fog
#

So gravity still works

proper hinge
#

Angelo was the first rock human.

hollow fog
#

How come nobody died in part 4 but all the enemies got actually pwned

#

Turned into a rock, turned into a book, turned into an amnesiac

#

I had this weird thing coming into jojolion

#

I read part 7 and 6 and 5, so I was avoiding part 8 spoilers

minor ore
#

My first thing I knew before reading was gappy had four balls and that was somehow important to the story

hollow fog
#

But from what I had gathered, norisuke was supposed to be the main villan

#

With hindsight, I think I gathered that king nothing was vitamin c

#

I didn't know what either did but I thought that he had the super op stand

#

Didn't know a thing about rock humans somehow though

#

Also I had falsy gathered that gappy became fused with someone mid part instead of the entire time

#

And i thought his real name was Gappy since everyone called him that

proper hinge
#

Yeah me too even though he’s never called Gappy.

hollow fog
#

This is an old conversation, but what happened with the paper moon king guy and blacking out when people got hurt?

#

Head doctor shenanigans, right?

minor ore
#

I don't remember

hollow fog
#

Neither do I

#

Except that HD was there at the gate where that kid got crushed

#

Right?

minor ore
#

HD?

near cedar
#

Head Doctor

minor ore
#

oh

#

yeah it was the work of head doctor

hollow fog
#

Can HD cure people by telling the cancer that it's pursuing him

#

I meam the kid in the gate had no idea about HD and still got pwned

#

So why not an illness

minor ore
#

cancer is not a species which can build up a kind of imagination and thinking such as pursuing someone, so I would say not since his ability only when someone has the intention to pursue him

#

About the kid I don't have a answer lol

hollow fog
#

Well same thing happened with Yasuho, she was already drowning but the doctor still injured her

inland oyster
#

The kid at the gate wasn’t attacked by WOU what are you on about

#

That’s implied to be Tsurugi

hollow fog
#

Wasn't the head doctor there?

inland oyster
#

No

#

Why would the head doctor be there

minor ore
#

but what attacked the kid then?

hollow fog
#

Stand probably

inland oyster
#

Implied to be Tsurugi

#

Y’all. The rock people aren’t going after any middle schoolers

white beacon
#

Ftr they meant the moment mitsuba saw the surveillance cam in the school and saa akefu there

inland oyster
#

What

#

Did I miss something damn

hollow fog
#

Actually, doobie wah did go after the middle schooler

#

I forget his name

#

The one who got ran over by jobin bus

minor ore
#

HD bad luck can be so strong that he may accidentally killed a kid

hollow fog
#

Do you think that journalist guy actually touched the fruit and then his acne or was that WOU causing a calamity to befall someone who was pursuing the head doctor

#

Both?

minor ore
#

Wasn't he kinda eaten the fruit?

hollow fog
#

Iirc he just touched part of the juice

white beacon
#

That's akefu's hypothesis, but journalist guy didn't deny it

#

But his acne cured, and combined with akefu's hypothesis, it makes some sense

hollow fog
#

I thought it was stated that you have to eat 2 thirds of the fruit for the exchange to happen

#

Or more than half

#

Whatever it was, you aren't supposed to get more than 1 exchange with 1 fruit

white beacon
#

The calamities sometimes are amplified things or something, like the rain piercing josuke

#

So maybe it just amplified the small dosage into an equivalent exchange dosage

hollow fog
#

So I think the journalist definitely wasn't supposed to have an exchange there, and WOU did something

inland oyster
#

Jan explained it

white beacon
#

For the hd/tsurugi moment

hollow fog
#

That's what I remember happening

#

There are two trains of thought that I've seen on this discord:

  1. The head doctor caused that
  2. Tsurugi caused that, it's related to him blacking out.
inland oyster
#

How could the HD have done that?

hollow fog
#

If the head doctor caused it, tsurugi blacking out is related to the norisuke family curse.

inland oyster
#

No one was pursuing it

hollow fog
#

If not, tsurugi blacking out was a sign of him causing those events, and HD only showed up in the picture as a part of his attack on the higashilakata family

#

There's only one correct explanation, right?

kind owlBOT
#

@hollow fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

edgy barn
#

breathes in

#

OZONE BABY ARC SUX

hollow fog
#

It's not shown if the child was pursuing the doctor, but the attack on them can be seen as the result of a calamity

#

Can it be explained with things we already know about the story or is it something that we have to wait for more information on?

faint rivet
#

I liked the Ozone Baby arc

#

Very chaotic

#

High tension

hollow fog
#

I liked the Ozone Baby arc
@faint rivet Everyone liked that.

faint rivet
#

Yay

proper hinge
#

‘Twas kinda a baller arc.

#

‘Twas kinda a baller arc.

#

Lag?

hollow fog
faint rivet
#

dragon's dream is wack

urban kelp
#

Dragon’s Dream should be where it’s user ended up: in the trash

minor ore
#

4 days

hollow fog
#

4 days until the new moon

lost slate
#

hamon beat is a part 8 elitist

#

i no longer like part 8

hollow fog
#

What?

#

Why is Hamon Beat a part 8 elitist?

lost slate
#

that's what he proudly states in his twitter bio

minor ore
#

What does that even mean

white beacon
#

Probably something like "part 8 is the only jojo part" "no other manga on earth will compare to part8 in both story and art(lol)" gatekeeping, bullying, attacking other fandoms for doing bad things that the fandom he's in is already known for, being a racist

#

Oh wait I think I was just describing them

lost slate
#

well, not only is he a part 8 elitist, he's also an smt elitist

white beacon
#

That's funny

lost slate
#

he told a persona 5 scramble gimmick account to 'play a real smt game'

#

and said that persona fans have 'final fantasy syndrome' thinking that the series starts at 3

white beacon
#

He ignores that the jojo fandom has had that syndrome before persona 3 even existed

#

But anyways, hamon beat has always been trash, next question please

zenith tangle
#

It was funny when I saw he made those videos about debunking all the araki forgot moments. Some of them were like yeah that was a plot detail but most were him trying to somehow cover the errors that araki did

#

And the extent he goes to make them not plot holes are funny

faint rivet
#

i don't like the guy, but i do occasionally watch his content if im bored

serene pasture
#

The thing I hate about those videos the most is how he frames his interpretation of the story as fact to an audience that probably hasn't even read jojo

ember light
#

the debunking araki forgot series is pog because it brought a lot of attention to misinformation but hamon beat is a dick and nothing will change that

heavy ledge
#

ig ill have a heart attack before friday

cinder fern
#

@urban kelp the cringe hating dragons dream

#

sad

hard meteor
#

^dragons dream was good

rancid aurora
#

its not that bad but its still one of the weaker fights in part 6

#

along with yo yo ma and jailhouse lock imo

urban kelp
#

I like Jailhouse Lock

ember light
#

I like yo yo ma

hard meteor
#

I also like jailhouse lock it’s a solid arc and fight

upper knoll
#

Yes, Jailhouse Lock was good

cinder fern
#

the virgin Dragons Dream and Yoyoma dislikers

inland oyster
#

I hate dragon’s dream

#

One of these days I’m gonna explain why I hate the Jojo fight formula so much

ember light
#

I dont like dragons dream either but yo oy ma is pog

hollow fog
#

It was funny when I saw he made those videos about debunking all the araki forgot moments. Some of them were like yeah that was a plot detail but most were him trying to somehow cover the errors that araki did
@zenith tangle which ones?

near cedar
#

Most of those "errors" ain't errors

inland oyster
#

“Iggy knew what DIO sounded like because Polnareff did an impression.”

#

He completely made this up

ember light
#

its never shown

#

but he said thats a likely explanation

inland oyster
#

Didn’t know Polnareff was into impressions ty Hamon beat

hollow fog
#

When does he say that Polnareff does a dio impression?

ember light
#

never

#

its just an explanation

hollow fog
#

I just watched that part and the answer hamon beat gives is that "polnareff is there as well and has seen and heard dio before"

#

Not sure if at another point he says polnareff does an impression

near cedar
#

Do you have a better explenation? No?

#

Then it's the best one we have

inland oyster
#

B-but.
It’s not canon

#

It’s just an explanation but it doesn’t resolve the issue. That’s like making up my own headcannon to fix Jojo

hollow fog
#

“Iggy knew what DIO sounded like because Polnareff did an impression.”
@inland oyster when did hamon beat say this?

inland oyster
#

In his part 3 video

ember light
inland oyster
#

Also I argued with him about it lol

ember light
#

this time stamp

#

its never stated that it is what happens

#

but its the only explanation we have

inland oyster
#

I have a better explanation.
“The plot requires it shut up.”

ember light
#

thats not a better explanation

near cedar
#

That ain't fun

inland oyster
#

You know I’m right 🙏

ember light
#

the point is that since theres a logical explanation he doesnt consider it a plot hole

inland oyster
#

My point is that anyone can come up with an explanation but it will never be canon.

minor ore
#

He said people forgot Polnareff knew what Dio sounded like. It seems he was implying it was an absolute fact people forgot even though it's just speculation.

inland oyster
#

Also knowing what someone sounds like isn’t the same as doing perfect impressions

ember light
#

Polnareff knows what Dio sounds like and thats not speculation

#

yeah it isnt

#

but like I said

#

this is the only explanation

inland oyster
#

It’s speculation and doesn’t have any validity besides ‘well I can’t think of anything else’

minor ore
#

His implication was that Polnareff was doing impersonations, which is speculation.

ember light
#

yes it is speculation

#

not confirmed

#

but it at least makes sense

#

the validity it has is from the fact that nothing else makes sense

#

but if you choose not to believe it

#

thats fine

inland oyster
#

It isn’t canon, it can’t be relied on lol.
I can fix every plot hole in Jojo by speculating but it wouldn’t matter

#

But wtv

hollow fog
#

Maybe it's something that gets introduced at that point? Like vanilla ice being healed by DIO's blood?

#

Im not sure that's comparable

minor ore
#

The issue I have isn't that it's speculation, it's just he seems to be conveying his headcanon as facts.

hollow fog
#

Wdym

ember light
#

it definitely isnt facts

#

like I said this is the only explanation though so Im going to believe it

minor ore
#

He comes up with explanations that are made up in his head, rather than the series but acts as if it's 100% the case. I don't mind speculation.

hollow fog
#

For what?

minor ore
#

Wait wait wasn't a whole convo here where did it go did it get deleted

#

It was jan and someone else

#

Wdym? For a few of his debunking Araki forgots he used speculation instead of facts.

hollow fog
#

You mean like saying that the in-universe explanation for polpo eating his fingers is it being the activation requirement for his stand?

minor ore
#

Yeah that's untrue

#

It's symbolism and a reference to the man

#

The man from black Sabbath the band

#

I'm talking about this case right now about the Iggy situation it's just speculation and it's okay to believe it, but he's attempting to convey it as a fact.

#

Iggy situation?

hollow fog
#

Convey that polnareff was there as a fact?

minor ore
#

The fact that Polnareff was doing impersonations of Dio.

hollow fog
#

When does he say that

minor ore
#

"fact"

inland oyster
#

Krazy

#

We’ve linked the video like 2 times now

minor ore
#

That was his implication and I believe he's even followed up on that.

#

What else could he be implying when saying Polnareff knew what Dio sounded like

hollow fog
#

Cool. In the video you linked he never says that polnareff is doing impressions, but if he followed up on that elsewhere then I believe you.

inland oyster
#

Well I’ve argued with him in the comments and he seemed to definitely believe that theory

#

And also what else could he mean lol

hollow fog
#

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the part you're referencing is around 16:15 in the video

minor ore
#

what was your interpretation when he said that Polnareff knew what Dio sounded like?

hollow fog
#

Well, I didn't focus on that statement on it's own when I saw the video.

hard meteor
#

lmao what is that

minor ore
#

I have no idea

hollow fog
#

Right before it he says that Iggy would have known who DIO is, and the crusaders could have shown him a picture of DIO at any point.

#

Seemed likely that with all the time the crusaders spent with Iggy, they would have been able to show him a picture of DIO

#

I just went with it because it made sense to me.

ember light
#

it definitely makes sense but is never stated

hollow fog
#

That's what we are talking about

#

Im wondering at what point something becomes headcannon

#

Is it when something isn't shown but is implied to have happened?

inland oyster
#

When it’s made up and not necessarily backed up by the manga. They likely showed him a picture, but they couldn’t have recorded his voice

#

Also, if you wanna be a purist. You’d probably just not listen to speculation

faint rivet
#

Hey this isn't Jojo lion talk

inland oyster
#

Explanations aren’t bad and probably help people understand Jojo more but I won’t run with them unless it’s specifically stated or implied

zenith tangle
#

It was about star Platinum can actually go past 2m in distance but his power decreases. That's why jotaro was able to get random stuff in the jail. Pretty bs stuff like that @hollow fog

#

Some of it felt like he was trying make some logic out of thin air

hollow fog
#

Yeah those are weird

#

Does Hamon Beat accomplish the goal of "debunking araki forgot moments" or does he fail to explain a majority of them without using headcannon? In your opinion

#

I just saw his video on part 7 and the majority of what he says makes sense, but I only read part 7 once and so I can't really check if everything he says lines up with what's stated in the manga

zenith tangle
#

I think some of them were very reasonable while others felt like his 'own' explanation so that it doesn't look bad. We all know that araki always makes changes as he writes along the way.

inland oyster
#

He’s usually not wrong but always fact check stuff on your own

zenith tangle
#

Part 7 overall was pretty consistent in terms of writing so I also thought it wasn't bad

hollow fog
#

Like the part where araki drew 3 D4C's in one panel to show 1 D4C punching 3 times being misinterpreted as 3 D4C's punching 1 time

#

That makes a lot of sense and he shows panels where this sort of thing happens

inland oyster
#

Stuff like star platinum being able to go beyond the 2 meter range is completely made up and doesn’t follow what other stands do. So always check his sources

zenith tangle
#

^

lost slate
#

yeah

inland oyster
zenith tangle
#

It was never stated that star Platinum can go beyond his range. He just made that up

lost slate
#

he tends to do this thing called 'fan wank'

hollow fog
#

Is there a humanoid stand like star platinum but with a really long range?

lost slate
#

which is when a fan makes up stuff to justify mistakes in a piece of media

hollow fog
#

I can't think of any stands that are bound to the user but also have long range off the top of my head

inland oyster
#

Echoes couldn’t go beyond its 50 meter range

zenith tangle
#

which is when a fan makes up stuff to justify mistakes in a piece of media
Facts

hollow fog
#

Im thinking about a stand that doesn't leave it's user and can be called back like star platinum at a moment's notice, but also has a long range

kind owlBOT
#

@hollow fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

inland oyster
#

Echoes lol

hollow fog
#

Heirophant green can do that, right?

lost slate
#

hierophant can, kinda

hollow fog
#

If koichi pierced his echoes act 3 with a stand arrow, would he get a requiem stand or would echoes go wild since koichi didn't have his stand since birth

inland oyster
#

Idk

hollow fog
#

The next question i have is, if he could get a requiem version of echoes, would it be echoes act 4, echoes act 3 requiem, or just echoes requiem? Or echoes requiem act 1/2/3?

inland oyster
hollow fog
#

Whats the stand that makes you have to not move again?

lost slate
#

WTF

#

that's the actual cover??

hollow fog
#

Anyways JJL chat. What could this title mean
@inland oyster are we on 24 right now? Like chapter 100 is volume 24?

lost slate
#

why is tooru's hair so messed up

inland oyster
#

Volume 24

hollow fog
#

Im assuming "just don't move" is referring to josuke staying in one place amd waiting for the head doctor

inland oyster
#

Yes that’s the official cover

lost slate
#

and no, i'm pretty sure 100 is for next vol

hollow fog
#

You can't move towards him since it's a pursuit

#

So i guess that don't move is referring to that

#

De do do do de da da da is also a stand that makes it dangerous to move, but it's less important to the story as a whole than josuke having to sit still and wait for HD to come to him

minor ore
#

D7 is inserted in a very smart way and fir a smart reason

#

It delays the end to the HD vs Mamezuku fight to explain other things

hollow fog
#

I don't want to say that it's not important, but if the volume title is "dont move" then i would assume it's based on either josuke waiting for the head doctor to arrive or both d8 and josuke waiting

#

None of the fights in part 8 are unimportant

#

Except.......

#

insert fight here

minor ore
serene pasture
minor ore
#

Cause it's gay

#

Nah idk Jojolion covers have rainbow theme in general

#

Fuck delay of messages

serene pasture
#

yeah but like

lost slate
#

based on this cover, it really seems like jjl is going to end soon

serene pasture
#

to my knowledge there's only been 2 occasions where something like that happened in the back, 23 and 24

lost slate
#

on that note

serene pasture
#

and in 23 it was a rain of akefus

minor ore
#

@lost slate how can you say that

inland oyster
#

It used to be a bunch of WOU’s

#

Now it’s a rainbow

serene pasture
#

So like... do y'all think this is like foreshadowing something

lost slate
#

4 days till the Harvest of the New JoJolion joshunut joshunut joshunut joshunut

serene pasture
#

cause it seems important

inland oyster
#

I think it’s foreshadowing that Tooru is gonna die but this is just back cover art

minor ore
#

What do rainbows symbolize quick

serene pasture
#

maybe it's foreshadowing what will happen with The Spin, maybe the "things that cannot be seen" refer to the alteration of light refraction

#

and rainbows are light

lost slate
#

oh yeah

minor ore
#

Oooh guys rainbow=lucky and spin of "good fortune"

#

Just a thought

serene pasture
#

JJL volumes usually are broadly about what was going on back in those chapters but there's also like, little clues as to what's going on now

#

iirc volume 23 didn't even have the confirmation that Akefu was an illusion, but he still appeared in the rain

lost slate
#

yeah

serene pasture
#

so i think it's p plausible that it's foreshadowing that

lost slate
#

they have the same/similar art to what appears in ultra jump, but they cover past material

serene pasture
#

That'd actually be another point in favour of the coronation theory, since now Tsurugi and Josuke's abilities are functioning in a very similar way

lost slate
#

it's a weird scenario but they do foreshadow stuff

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like volume 21 shows josuke by the tree that ojiro uses in volume 22

minor ore
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We'll just have to wait

lost slate
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yep

minor ore
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3 days 22 hours

lost slate
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only 2 days till the volume releases

serene pasture
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Also i think i figured out why the cover looks so weird

minor ore
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Wdym by weird? @serene pasture

serene pasture
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There's a lot of people saying that it looks off

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I think it's just cause of the highlights

minor ore
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Highlights?

serene pasture
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like, where the light is placed on the characters

minor ore
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Oh yeah the lighting is a bit off

inland oyster
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Might be an issue with the scan itself?

serene pasture
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Like, the light looks like it's shining directly on josuke and yasuho's face

minor ore
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Yeah maybe maybe

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Toorus nose is weird look at it the curb to his skull is too big

serene pasture
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if you compare it with this for example the light is more centered and focused. In the 24 cover it's like, more to the sides, and the highlights are bigger

minor ore
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Ok yes I can see it

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But

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Look at Toorus nose

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Wierd little thing

serene pasture
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To me it looks normal

minor ore
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THE VAN IS THE SPINE ART

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ONG

serene pasture
minor ore
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OK BUT VAN MAIN VILLIAN FOR REAL

inland oyster
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@minor ore are there any clear pics of the spine art

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There’s a van and a new character 👀👀👀👀👀

minor ore
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Only found this angle

inland oyster
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I’m going to name him ‘Spine Art man’

lost slate
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he could just be tooru or hd again

inland oyster
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Maybe but would be weird for Araki to slap a character twice on the spine art

lost slate
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also, what is it with morioh jojo parts and vehicles?

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part 4 had the ambulance, and 8 has the jobinbus and the rock people ambulance

inland oyster
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It’s foreshadowing the appearance of optimus prime

lost slate
inland oyster
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Would be hype if the guy on the spine art is the mystery man we’ve been looking for for about a decade

lost slate
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still, i hope the new character introduced (if it is a new character) is developed and handled well

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i mean, it would add an additional complication to jjl's plot threads

minor ore
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Idk man looks like HD again which is indeed weird

lost slate
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especially because some like kaato have seemingly been forgotten about

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well

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it's a dude wearing a black suit

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any jjl characters like that who haven't appeared on the spine?

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the only one i can think of is rai's dad

inland oyster
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He doesn’t have the scarf or the hat

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I think?

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We need a better angle

lost slate
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yeah

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i'll try and pick one up when it comes out and see if i can get a better angle

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but for now, it seems like a mystery character

inland oyster
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Spine Art man.

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Say hello to mystery man and mystery baby

lost slate
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maybe mystery man is jewel baby

inland oyster
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Woah

lost slate
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i hope that's the case because introducing two seperate characters so late into the manga seems like a bad idea

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even one is kinda pushing it

inland oyster
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I’m just gonna assume the spine art guy and mystery man are the same person

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Baby might not even be explained

near cedar
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Spine art guy?

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I haven't been keeping up with the convo too busy screaming internally over my injured finger XD

inland oyster
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Spine art has someone who we’re assuming is new

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It might be WOU though

lost slate
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because tooru and hd have already appeared

inland oyster
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When we get a better angle we’ll see

lost slate
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and it doesn't really look like either right now

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on the topic of jewel baby

near cedar
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he's dead

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Jk

lost slate
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maybe he's actually really old and is just poor tom's dad

near cedar
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Or it's

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I got nothing somebody finish my sentence

inland oyster
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Me

near cedar
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Oh shit

faint rivet
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Are we talking about who that is on the spine

inland oyster
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Yes

faint rivet
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I think it's the head doctor again

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Since he can be seen in multiple places at once

lost slate
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true, but it doesn't have any of the distinguishing hd features

near cedar
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It's in black

inland oyster
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No scarf or hat but that could just because of the low quality picture

faint rivet
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And it's like 8 pixels so it's hard to tell

inland oyster
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We’ll see

near cedar
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No we won't

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HD will take our eyes

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Then we'll never know how JJL ends

inland oyster
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Damn 😔....

zenith tangle
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That's Joshu on the spine. He's wearing HD outfit

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He's making a comeback

kind sphinx
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for real though

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this is clearly Tooru's van and HD's back

inland oyster
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Maybe

kind sphinx
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can we at least agree that's HD

inland oyster
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Maybe

kind sphinx
minor ore
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Yup its really low quality but that gray suff must be the scarf ig

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my theory that HD is Funny Valentine

zenith tangle
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From another dimension

minor ore
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FV actually survived but somehow his love train luck ability turned into this Calamity ability

minor ore
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Yeah hmm vol23 has the head doctors flying while vol24 has the rainbow

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You can say that the HDs there look like rain