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Higashikata Joshu does not move
TSKR is one of those interesting title translations
because literal translation doesnt always work
Joshu is not crash
I'm sure in Japanese it makes perfect sense
Most likely
if I think about it... diamond is unbreakable is such a dumb title
it's like saying water is wet
golden wind
stone ocean
(that one kinda makes sense)
steel ball run
which is a really stupid name for a race
they say stardust in the first opening of part 3 so it counts
@faint rivet, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 27 !
i get that sbr is made by stephen steel, but where did the 'ball' and 'run' come from
the names of the parts weren't introduced until part 6
ball is only a reference to the steel balls
they used to be different
but it makes sense for it to be called 'steel ball race'
especially because most people aren't running, the horses are
maybe steven steel is secretly a zeppeli and knew about the steel balls đ€
and sandman also helped somehow and made it into the run
idk im just spitting these theories out they make no sense
It's a reference to the cannonball race(?) So it makes some sense
also the title of the series is more literally "JoJo's Strange Adventure"
Oh wait yeah the run part is weird, forgot about that
Jojo No Kimyou Nabouken moment
oh yeah, it's probably a reference to 'cannonball run'
but i wonder if they do any running in that
seems like it has something to do with cars maybe
this isnt jojo lion talk anymore doe
there's no lion on this jojo discussion

Joe joe's
Does Joe have a lion
No
why not
They're illegal
eggward
if there is ever a part 9, do you think it'll be another time skip to Josuke's son, or would there be more joestar bloodline bullshitâą
assuming Josuke doesn't kick the bucket off a cliff by the end
alternate universe giorno
or maybe part 9 is just a fully illustrated jorge joestar
that would make it canon
part 9 could be some endgame thing where all jojo's are fighting against some really strong villain idk
Eyes of Heaven
It always comes back to dio
đ đ©
ok
Worst Villains In Jojo:
- DIO
- Kira
- Diavolo
- Kars
- Joshuâs Barber

none of those are bad
Joshu barber is the most well written imo
I mean worst as in most evil @ember light
Yeah. Itâs ok.
Joshu barber is the most well written imo
@ember light yeah he being well written doesnt contradict him being evil
nah Joshu barber is well written because he has a good side and bad side is what I meant
Worst Villains In Jojo:
- DIO
- Kira
- Diavolo
- Kars
- Joshuâs Barber
Forgot to say Pucci and Valentine
pUCci Nad ValEntiNE AeR noT eVVill
Any villain that dabbles with the KKK is automatically evil, Pucci
yes they are
Of all the things Pucci did you bring up one that wasn't intentional
And Valentine doesn't need to be explained
We know all the shit he did
Zen
Valentine is sus
@wide flame what about pasok
?
i mean
Yea?
Spread the word of Pasok
byeah
5 days till the Harvest of the New JoJolion

Every passing month we getting closer to the chapter where Joshu kills Tooru :0
I would love to see that
Itâs gonna happen
Joshu uses the spin on his nuts to unscrew them
He also uses his nuts to send the spin into people
Joshu is a spin user
Ok you clowns go to #manga-jojokes
Well he went to help Yasuho and give her the Rokakaka, and Tooru was nearby
I crave lore
They're definitely going to meet
Joshu is gonna do something
But i mean this ch
Joshu is going to unscrew toorus hair
There is a tiny Wonder of U controlling him under that hair
Shitposting aside
Do you guys actually think Joshu is gonna fight Tooru in any capacity?
I'm not shitposting
Thereâs a chance they wonât even cross paths
I mean
Joshu and Tooru are definitely going to fight
Joshu has the new rokakaka
Tooru wants the new rokakaka
He knows where it is
It's exact percise location
They're gonna cross paths
Tooru is going to play it cool bc no one knows he is an asshole and they wont fight. He is going to act up as if he is going to save yasuho
I mean like.
What if Tooru gets killed by the duo at the hospital before he gets his hands on the rokak
Or that too Josefumi
And yasuho still trusts him
also heard this theory from none other than mono that WOU utilizes the spin
Tooru is not real
Iâve been thinking about it
The spin as in a concept of deflecting calamities towards his enemies? I didnt read anyrhing about it
Or like a physical spin idk
Joshu is still gonna be protective of yasuho
Spin as a concept
If Tooru is going to try to go after Yasuho, then Joshu will most definitely step in and try to stop him
Tooruâs gonna play it safe
Heâs gonna fool both Yasuho and Joshu and take the rokakaka in some way.
Joshus not gonna trust him
Because
He's joshu
He might even use nut king call on him
He's used it multiple times to get his way
By the way if joshu was always interested in yasuho perhaps he may know that she dated tooru
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real
and not edited
or drawn
Holy crap chapter 101 is going to feature Dante from Devil May Cry
here's a higher res version
Not real
Not real
source?
I found the image from here https://www.s-manga.net/items/contents.html?jdcn=08882394851126315501
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Their pfp is an awesome dog so they're reliable
it probably says jojolion somewhere on the page
I just know that it says rokakaka there
I know the writing for "Jojo's"
idk
Mono
Its in japanese it has to be real
Youâve lied to me too many times
The guy has an among us pfp so he can't be trusted
Sus
I hate among us fans with a passion
I played like 4 times and got bored. it makes me anxious
its an alright game, but the fanbase is so annoying
there's a fanbase? 
nah it just weeds out the fake friends
youâre telling me you donât trust ME of all people
@loud aurora Yes.
why do you keep posting kamen rider gifs
@loud aurora, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
These suits are slick
source?
@rancid aurora not real
real
Ayo
h
That's milagro man
Not real
milgrow mann
UwU
ok
real
@loud aurora give me money
no
500 zimbabwe dollars
i lafd
why
i mean hes a doctor
so he isnt poor
hes actually probably rich
until he died
Volume 24 cover
Not chapter cover
Volume
Mono idc
Everyone is tweeting about this it cant be one of monos
His tweet is still up wdym
lmao
i did not coerce multiple accounts including the jojo wiki members to go along with my prank
no shot
Yeah wtf
i posted it, it's real
I refuse to believe you
Iâm gonna be pissed if this is real
Itâs literally on the wiki kid
It's real ftr
Is gappy josuke 8
Iâm pissed
Hi pissed, i'm son
Is gappy josuke 8
@flat adder
Yes
is that fake or legit
What
the volume cover
I think itâs legit. Itâs on the wiki
oh wow
of course it's real
Really boring though
Not real
eh it looks clean for the most part
Not real
unlucky
Not real
What does the flower at the top right stand for
Itâs cool
I personally asked them to put it there
Ok
Isn't that just the cover from August
No
@white beacon, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 60 !
One thing that i love about jojolion is how the Head doctor is such a dangerous,yet "normal" stand.
Is not a flashy or a powerful combat stand,but it can make ordinary things lethal weapons. Is so terrifying
Lol that convo up top is sp funny
Cuz if that's real then that's another miss from araki
And that mono is in a "boy who cried wolf situation"
Trick people a lot of times enough and they won't trust you ever
Even if you have proofs
It'd be a weird thing to fake
@onyx tangle, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !
I wouldn't dare trick peeps, that kinda stuff just don't seem right
i mean now they're just tricking themselves
this is arguably more fun
since i dont even have to draw anything
ultimate troll
exactly
5/10 cover
The true irony is monoâs credibility being shot to the floor
funny thing is ill still be posting these shits
Ok
It looks boring
Along with half the part
@white beacon lol cap
But I donât wanna be mean. I just want 101
101 the grind
I just view volume covers as a fun side thing
I wanna see whoâs on the spine art
yeah ill post the 100% real preview that i got here in a few days
@loud aurora waiting for it bro
good
big if true
True
joshu
Or maybe weâll see WoU in its roboty stand face form

ââșïžâ

Wait I thought we already saw this cove
r
Tooru was looking at the screws last time too
Im fairly certain is legit
I have 2 steel rods
Cool
Epic
wonder of me
jojo lion fans argueing over the incredibly vague and confusing abilties
jojolion fans after redoing physics class to understand awaking 3 leaves
probably one of the least confusing abilities tbh
bruh
Speedreader-kun

okay quick question
does this part even have a main villain
im on like chapter 30 and i cant really distinguish anyone as a main threat
i feel like it might be jobin tho but im not sure
He appears at chapter 83
yes
and im p sure this part started in 2011 so thats a long time to have an ongoing manga i feel
but no rush for araki, gotta make sure he perfects that stuff~
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !
ayy
It's not really like, confirmed that he's the main villain, but he's definitely one of the biggest threat so far
ill be honest tho i dont know much about manga tho, the only manga ive ended up reading was basically all the unanimated jojo parts.
He is the main villain
no
Everything leads to him
it isnt confirmed
so i dont know if taking 9 years to write a manga and still have it ongoing is normal-
It isn't confirmed but all proof leads to believe it's him
Everything leads to him
yeah i know "everything leads up to this man" haha but like
||are you forgetting about kaato?||
he's completely disconnected with arguably the main struggle of the part, he can't be the mv, or at least not the only one
||maybe some shit can happen with Jobin Idk||
i dunno about that
if its one thing jojolion has taught us
its that its pointless to try to predict the future
at least we are lucky to be a part of this ride
Kaato/Jobin is the High Voltage
im pretty sure most of us werent alive to experience almost all the parts of jojo being concieved so i guess this is what we have to enjoy
and honestly im fine with that
at least we dont have to wait through 30 years of serializing manga
a story is a story, and if i like that story im damn well gonna enjoy my time no matter how long i must wait
LMAO true tho-
And i don't see whatever Kaato's power is being stronger than WoU
Kaato/Jobin is the High Voltage
We aren't even at ||the flashback|| and we're already seemingly nearing the end of his arc so i don't see how he's the mv
Strength in jojo doesn't exist ya dingus this ain't Dragon Ball
the only way it's possible is if ||kaato has infinite spin||
Power is for the weak
which is pretty unlikely
kaatos stand from what we've seen could be really interesting
like can she transfer things between cards?
i hope she returns to ||save jobin|| or ||joshu||
I think that could have some cool fights
maybe this chapter?
||not joshu lol, joshu can save himself||
yeah
Joshu is gonna have his moment soon
Kaato/Jobin is the High Voltage
high voltage isnt really a good comparison,the higashikata side of the story has been the focus for a long time and theres alot of buildup on it in the flashforward
||there's definitely some fuckery going on with the flashback so we'll probbly see her around that time||
hmm probably
I swear if Araki really forgets about her I will be majorly disappointed
but I doubt thats the case
same
I swear if Araki really forgets about her I will be majorly disappointed
he hasn't
She's like, essential to jobin's character
i mean, he remembered enya and rai's backstory
she'll defiantly play a larger role
no way he hasn't remembered way more important stuff
Jobin might as well just be a puppet for her and her goals, at least for most of his appearances
so we have the jobin side, the other higashikata side, the gappy side, and the tooru side
And they all need the fruit, right
and there's only 1 fruit
damn
that's gonna get really messy, isn't it
yep
pretty sure it'll be like high voltage, where tooru is the main villain, but there's another threat after he's dead
Strength in jojo doesn't exist ya dingus this ain't Dragon Ball
Strength in jojo exists
Strength of will, strength of fighting spirit, strength of resolve, strength of the stand
You know, how not all stands can blow a hole in a wall with their fist
That's called strength lmao
It just works
You forgot about Strength
Strength is the wall
Power is for the weak
Laughs in every main JoJo villain
What i meant was strength in jojo, with a few exceptions, is not linear. Comparisons like Soft and Wet vs Stone Free or some shit are useless cause it'll ultimately come out to circumstance, strategy, shit like that. Wonder of U is definitely a terrifying ability, but it's not like, the peak of how terrifying a stand can get or whatever
Also it's not like Kaato needs to take out Tooru herself or whatever, Josuke and Joshu got that covered

Kaato is gonna reappear after all of the Wonder of U stuff and we will learn more about her stand and she will try to take the Rokakaka or something
yeah power scaling in jojo is almost non existent
And then it'll be revealed that she's a rock human
besides like ger and love train and stuff like that
It's more based on their mental skill and how well they can fight rather then how strong they are
And even then it's iffy
For example
Tusk beats love train
Tusk doesn't beat ger
Superfly beats all
Mans said Wonder of U isn't the final stand fight
cause it isnt
theres a large chunk of the story still going on outside of wonder of u
Well Kaato still has to make another appearance so we can learn about her stand, so there could very well be more to come
an understanding of pacing and basic level reading comprehension says it isn't
I'm just saying there's a good chance
It's more likely than you think.
Every chapter that comes out, I hold out hope that she'll show up again
Maybe it's time to show up at the higashikata estate
Lul
Spoilers coming soon who knows
Very cool.
Uncringe.
oh yeah the next chapter's gonna be a thing
gonna bet 20 dollars that the spin is getting debunked right now
Wdym?
people just assume because of the 100th chapter that the spin rai uses is the same as part 7's
But it says that itâs not.
Iâm betting youâre wrong 20 dollars
It says itâs the spin of the lines of Josk8s bubbles.
there is NO reason he would know it
considering his past isn't anything like Gyro's, nor did he meet him nor Johnny
and if he somehow did know it how the fuck is Gappy gonna learn it in the heat of the moment
Thatâs weâve been saying too lol
But Iâm confident itâs the actual spin. Considering the way he phrases it
Something about revealing things within stands, all stands having it and him demonstrating it
GAPPY REMEMBER
YOU ALWAYS HAD BITES THE DUST
and then just undos everything and beats up the head doctor when he isn't looking
though for funsies, let's assume Rai does know the spin
how would we assume he learned it
did he see Johnny attempt to use it before he got crushed by a rock
To be fair. While itâs complete BS he mightâve talked to a descendant or learned about the spin from a master
he's gonna be like "as a fruit manager lad that I was, I sometimes would play with the fruit. I found myself mostly sticking to pears. One day I thought what if I spun them? Their shape was the closest to that of a spinning top. So I did, everyday, until one moment that it happened."
I hope.
There better be some Katto and the Higishikata family picnic.
Thats what we are all thinking, right?
None of this "đł đ đ nobody has ever gotten within 1cm..." shit
I doubt weâll get a full Higashikata chapter yet. Maybe a little tease at the end
Yeah that's what im thinking
WOU fight still has to end
D4c fight took 30 chapters
chicken
@ebon crown, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !
I donât think WOU is on that scale imo
I bet rai is dead tho which sucks cause I really liked him
Weâre like nearing the end of the fight? Josukeâs getting some upgrade
Rai isnât dead shut up.
He basically just got introduced and now man is already dead RIP
Its all josukes fault dude
Heâs fine shut up.
Those were 'his' bubbles.
Rai is okie dokie.
I bet gappy is gonna have another breakdown cause that
Yeah just like gyro
Yeah đ
Zombie horse
He could just be dying
Well yeah but no way he survived that much
He's not a donut he's a slice of swiss cheese
I hope araki likes him enough to revive him but not like him so much he kills him off
Wait, he liked tarkus?
I doubt it.
Wait, he liked magent magent?
@hollow fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
He was bad boi he get da ded.
Wait....
Everyone likes magenta magenta.
Magent magent technically has to die though right?
A stand is like a magnet, it will weaken over time eventually
Right?
Magent magent cant just sit there forever, can he?
;-;
He probably died to something
No
Yeah I mean
He could undo the stand for a second and get a mouthful of water
Magenta magenta doesnât have a fridge on the back unless I missed a retcon
That makes it hard to sit still
20th century boy makes him invincible
Its a time out
He stopped thinking didnât he?
Apparently
Heâll die of starvation
He had to have died to smth
Did book man die?
So gravity still works
Angelo was the first rock human.
How come nobody died in part 4 but all the enemies got actually pwned
Turned into a rock, turned into a book, turned into an amnesiac
I had this weird thing coming into jojolion
I read part 7 and 6 and 5, so I was avoiding part 8 spoilers
My first thing I knew before reading was gappy had four balls and that was somehow important to the story
But from what I had gathered, norisuke was supposed to be the main villan
With hindsight, I think I gathered that king nothing was vitamin c
I didn't know what either did but I thought that he had the super op stand
Didn't know a thing about rock humans somehow though
Also I had falsy gathered that gappy became fused with someone mid part instead of the entire time
And i thought his real name was Gappy since everyone called him that
Yeah me too even though heâs never called Gappy.
This is an old conversation, but what happened with the paper moon king guy and blacking out when people got hurt?
Head doctor shenanigans, right?
I don't remember
Neither do I
Except that HD was there at the gate where that kid got crushed
Right?
HD?
Head Doctor
Can HD cure people by telling the cancer that it's pursuing him
I meam the kid in the gate had no idea about HD and still got pwned
So why not an illness
cancer is not a species which can build up a kind of imagination and thinking such as pursuing someone, so I would say not since his ability only when someone has the intention to pursue him
About the kid I don't have a answer lol
Well same thing happened with Yasuho, she was already drowning but the doctor still injured her
The kid at the gate wasnât attacked by WOU what are you on about
Thatâs implied to be Tsurugi
Wasn't the head doctor there?
but what attacked the kid then?
Stand probably
Implied to be Tsurugi
Yâall. The rock people arenât going after any middle schoolers
Ftr they meant the moment mitsuba saw the surveillance cam in the school and saa akefu there
Actually, doobie wah did go after the middle schooler
I forget his name
The one who got ran over by jobin bus
HD bad luck can be so strong that he may accidentally killed a kid
Do you think that journalist guy actually touched the fruit and then his acne or was that WOU causing a calamity to befall someone who was pursuing the head doctor
Both?
Wasn't he kinda eaten the fruit?
Iirc he just touched part of the juice
That's akefu's hypothesis, but journalist guy didn't deny it
But his acne cured, and combined with akefu's hypothesis, it makes some sense
I thought it was stated that you have to eat 2 thirds of the fruit for the exchange to happen
Or more than half
Whatever it was, you aren't supposed to get more than 1 exchange with 1 fruit
The calamities sometimes are amplified things or something, like the rain piercing josuke
So maybe it just amplified the small dosage into an equivalent exchange dosage
So I think the journalist definitely wasn't supposed to have an exchange there, and WOU did something
Jan explained it
That's what I remember happening
There are two trains of thought that I've seen on this discord:
- The head doctor caused that
- Tsurugi caused that, it's related to him blacking out.
How could the HD have done that?
If the head doctor caused it, tsurugi blacking out is related to the norisuke family curse.
No one was pursuing it
If not, tsurugi blacking out was a sign of him causing those events, and HD only showed up in the picture as a part of his attack on the higashilakata family
There's only one correct explanation, right?
@hollow fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !
It's not shown if the child was pursuing the doctor, but the attack on them can be seen as the result of a calamity
Can it be explained with things we already know about the story or is it something that we have to wait for more information on?
I liked the Ozone Baby arc
@faint rivetEveryone liked that.
Yay
Automatic stands be like
dragon's dream is wack
Dragonâs Dream should be where itâs user ended up: in the trash
Also I saw this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghz3C67KHCs
METAs - Wonder of U is one of my favorite stands in Jojolion so far and luckily for me, he's one of the most busted stands in the series so he works well for "The Most Terrifying Stands"
#jojolion100
also, big shout out for my main man Andrew aka @CurbStompMe_ for coloring w...
4 days
4 days until the new moon
that's what he proudly states in his twitter bio
What does that even mean
Probably something like "part 8 is the only jojo part" "no other manga on earth will compare to part8 in both story and art(lol)" gatekeeping, bullying, attacking other fandoms for doing bad things that the fandom he's in is already known for, being a racist
Oh wait I think I was just describing them
well, not only is he a part 8 elitist, he's also an smt elitist
That's funny
he told a persona 5 scramble gimmick account to 'play a real smt game'
and said that persona fans have 'final fantasy syndrome' thinking that the series starts at 3
He ignores that the jojo fandom has had that syndrome before persona 3 even existed
But anyways, hamon beat has always been trash, next question please
It was funny when I saw he made those videos about debunking all the araki forgot moments. Some of them were like yeah that was a plot detail but most were him trying to somehow cover the errors that araki did
And the extent he goes to make them not plot holes are funny
i don't like the guy, but i do occasionally watch his content if im bored
The thing I hate about those videos the most is how he frames his interpretation of the story as fact to an audience that probably hasn't even read jojo
the debunking araki forgot series is pog because it brought a lot of attention to misinformation but hamon beat is a dick and nothing will change that
ig ill have a heart attack before friday
^dragons dream was good
its not that bad but its still one of the weaker fights in part 6
along with yo yo ma and jailhouse lock imo
I like Jailhouse Lock
I like yo yo ma
I also like jailhouse lock itâs a solid arc and fight
Yes, Jailhouse Lock was good
the virgin Dragons Dream and Yoyoma dislikers
I hate dragonâs dream
One of these days Iâm gonna explain why I hate the Jojo fight formula so much
I dont like dragons dream either but yo oy ma is pog
It was funny when I saw he made those videos about debunking all the araki forgot moments. Some of them were like yeah that was a plot detail but most were him trying to somehow cover the errors that araki did
@zenith tangle which ones?
Most of those "errors" ain't errors
âIggy knew what DIO sounded like because Polnareff did an impression.â
He completely made this up
Didnât know Polnareff was into impressions ty Hamon beat
When does he say that Polnareff does a dio impression?
I just watched that part and the answer hamon beat gives is that "polnareff is there as well and has seen and heard dio before"
Not sure if at another point he says polnareff does an impression
B-but.
Itâs not canon
Itâs just an explanation but it doesnât resolve the issue. Thatâs like making up my own headcannon to fix Jojo
âIggy knew what DIO sounded like because Polnareff did an impression.â
@inland oyster when did hamon beat say this?
In his part 3 video
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Also I argued with him about it lol
this time stamp
its never stated that it is what happens
but its the only explanation we have
I have a better explanation.
âThe plot requires it shut up.â
thats not a better explanation
That ain't fun
You know Iâm right đ
the point is that since theres a logical explanation he doesnt consider it a plot hole
My point is that anyone can come up with an explanation but it will never be canon.
He said people forgot Polnareff knew what Dio sounded like. It seems he was implying it was an absolute fact people forgot even though it's just speculation.
Also knowing what someone sounds like isnât the same as doing perfect impressions
Polnareff knows what Dio sounds like and thats not speculation
yeah it isnt
but like I said
this is the only explanation
Itâs speculation and doesnât have any validity besides âwell I canât think of anything elseâ
His implication was that Polnareff was doing impersonations, which is speculation.
yes it is speculation
not confirmed
but it at least makes sense
the validity it has is from the fact that nothing else makes sense
but if you choose not to believe it
thats fine
It isnât canon, it canât be relied on lol.
I can fix every plot hole in Jojo by speculating but it wouldnât matter
But wtv
Maybe it's something that gets introduced at that point? Like vanilla ice being healed by DIO's blood?
Im not sure that's comparable
The issue I have isn't that it's speculation, it's just he seems to be conveying his headcanon as facts.
Wdym
it definitely isnt facts
like I said this is the only explanation though so Im going to believe it
He comes up with explanations that are made up in his head, rather than the series but acts as if it's 100% the case. I don't mind speculation.
For what?
Wait wait wasn't a whole convo here where did it go did it get deleted
It was jan and someone else
Wdym? For a few of his debunking Araki forgots he used speculation instead of facts.
You mean like saying that the in-universe explanation for polpo eating his fingers is it being the activation requirement for his stand?
Yeah that's untrue
It's symbolism and a reference to the man
The man from black Sabbath the band
I'm talking about this case right now about the Iggy situation it's just speculation and it's okay to believe it, but he's attempting to convey it as a fact.
Iggy situation?
Convey that polnareff was there as a fact?
The fact that Polnareff was doing impersonations of Dio.
When does he say that
"fact"
That was his implication and I believe he's even followed up on that.
What else could he be implying when saying Polnareff knew what Dio sounded like
Cool. In the video you linked he never says that polnareff is doing impressions, but if he followed up on that elsewhere then I believe you.
Well Iâve argued with him in the comments and he seemed to definitely believe that theory
And also what else could he mean lol
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the part you're referencing is around 16:15 in the video
what was your interpretation when he said that Polnareff knew what Dio sounded like?
Someone replied to me with this what??? Misinformation on another level
Well, I didn't focus on that statement on it's own when I saw the video.
lmao what is that
I have no idea
Right before it he says that Iggy would have known who DIO is, and the crusaders could have shown him a picture of DIO at any point.
Seemed likely that with all the time the crusaders spent with Iggy, they would have been able to show him a picture of DIO
I just went with it because it made sense to me.
it definitely makes sense but is never stated
That's what we are talking about
Im wondering at what point something becomes headcannon
Is it when something isn't shown but is implied to have happened?
When itâs made up and not necessarily backed up by the manga. They likely showed him a picture, but they couldnât have recorded his voice
Also, if you wanna be a purist. Youâd probably just not listen to speculation
Hey this isn't Jojo lion talk
Explanations arenât bad and probably help people understand Jojo more but I wonât run with them unless itâs specifically stated or implied
It was about star Platinum can actually go past 2m in distance but his power decreases. That's why jotaro was able to get random stuff in the jail. Pretty bs stuff like that @hollow fog
Some of it felt like he was trying make some logic out of thin air
Yeah those are weird
Does Hamon Beat accomplish the goal of "debunking araki forgot moments" or does he fail to explain a majority of them without using headcannon? In your opinion
I just saw his video on part 7 and the majority of what he says makes sense, but I only read part 7 once and so I can't really check if everything he says lines up with what's stated in the manga
I think some of them were very reasonable while others felt like his 'own' explanation so that it doesn't look bad. We all know that araki always makes changes as he writes along the way.
Heâs usually not wrong but always fact check stuff on your own
Part 7 overall was pretty consistent in terms of writing so I also thought it wasn't bad
Like the part where araki drew 3 D4C's in one panel to show 1 D4C punching 3 times being misinterpreted as 3 D4C's punching 1 time
That makes a lot of sense and he shows panels where this sort of thing happens
Stuff like star platinum being able to go beyond the 2 meter range is completely made up and doesnât follow what other stands do. So always check his sources
^
yeah
#off-topic-general should be here btw
It was never stated that star Platinum can go beyond his range. He just made that up
he tends to do this thing called 'fan wank'
Is there a humanoid stand like star platinum but with a really long range?
which is when a fan makes up stuff to justify mistakes in a piece of media
I can't think of any stands that are bound to the user but also have long range off the top of my head
Echoes couldnât go beyond its 50 meter range
which is when a fan makes up stuff to justify mistakes in a piece of media
Facts
Im thinking about a stand that doesn't leave it's user and can be called back like star platinum at a moment's notice, but also has a long range
@hollow fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !
Echoes lol
Heirophant green can do that, right?
hierophant can, kinda
If koichi pierced his echoes act 3 with a stand arrow, would he get a requiem stand or would echoes go wild since koichi didn't have his stand since birth
Idk
The next question i have is, if he could get a requiem version of echoes, would it be echoes act 4, echoes act 3 requiem, or just echoes requiem? Or echoes requiem act 1/2/3?
Anyways JJL chat. What could this title mean
Whats the stand that makes you have to not move again?
Anyways JJL chat. What could this title mean
@inland oyster are we on 24 right now? Like chapter 100 is volume 24?
why is tooru's hair so messed up
Volume 24
Im assuming "just don't move" is referring to josuke staying in one place amd waiting for the head doctor
Yes thatâs the official cover
and no, i'm pretty sure 100 is for next vol
You can't move towards him since it's a pursuit
So i guess that don't move is referring to that
De do do do de da da da is also a stand that makes it dangerous to move, but it's less important to the story as a whole than josuke having to sit still and wait for HD to come to him
D7 is inserted in a very smart way and fir a smart reason
It delays the end to the HD vs Mamezuku fight to explain other things
I don't want to say that it's not important, but if the volume title is "dont move" then i would assume it's based on either josuke waiting for the head doctor to arrive or both d8 and josuke waiting
None of the fights in part 8 are unimportant
Except.......
insert fight here
Summary of the first half of Jojolion
why the fuck does the back have a rainbow in it
Cause it's gay
Nah idk Jojolion covers have rainbow theme in general
Fuck delay of messages
yeah but like
based on this cover, it really seems like jjl is going to end soon
to my knowledge there's only been 2 occasions where something like that happened in the back, 23 and 24
on that note
and in 23 it was a rain of akefus
@lost slate how can you say that
So like... do y'all think this is like foreshadowing something
4 days till the Harvest of the New JoJolion

cause it seems important
I think itâs foreshadowing that Tooru is gonna die but this is just back cover art
What do rainbows symbolize quick
maybe it's foreshadowing what will happen with The Spin, maybe the "things that cannot be seen" refer to the alteration of light refraction
and rainbows are light
oh yeah
JJL volumes usually are broadly about what was going on back in those chapters but there's also like, little clues as to what's going on now
iirc volume 23 didn't even have the confirmation that Akefu was an illusion, but he still appeared in the rain
yeah
so i think it's p plausible that it's foreshadowing that
they have the same/similar art to what appears in ultra jump, but they cover past material
That'd actually be another point in favour of the coronation theory, since now Tsurugi and Josuke's abilities are functioning in a very similar way
it's a weird scenario but they do foreshadow stuff
like volume 21 shows josuke by the tree that ojiro uses in volume 22
We'll just have to wait
yep
3 days 22 hours
only 2 days till the volume releases
Also i think i figured out why the cover looks so weird
Wdym by weird? @serene pasture
There's a lot of people saying that it looks off
I think it's just cause of the highlights
Highlights?
like, where the light is placed on the characters
It's hard to explain why exactly, but Araki doesn't normally do it like this
Oh yeah the lighting is a bit off
Might be an issue with the scan itself?
Like, the light looks like it's shining directly on josuke and yasuho's face
if you compare it with this for example the light is more centered and focused. In the 24 cover it's like, more to the sides, and the highlights are bigger
To me it looks normal
it's like they're being lit by flashlights
OK BUT VAN MAIN VILLIAN FOR REAL
@minor ore are there any clear pics of the spine art
Thereâs a van and a new character đđđđđ
Only found this angle
he could just be tooru or hd again
Maybe but would be weird for Araki to slap a character twice on the spine art
also, what is it with morioh jojo parts and vehicles?
part 4 had the ambulance, and 8 has the jobinbus and the rock people ambulance
Itâs foreshadowing the appearance of optimus prime

Would be hype if the guy on the spine art is the mystery man weâve been looking for for about a decade
still, i hope the new character introduced (if it is a new character) is developed and handled well
i mean, it would add an additional complication to jjl's plot threads
Idk man looks like HD again which is indeed weird
especially because some like kaato have seemingly been forgotten about
well
it's a dude wearing a black suit
any jjl characters like that who haven't appeared on the spine?
the only one i can think of is rai's dad
yeah
i'll try and pick one up when it comes out and see if i can get a better angle
but for now, it seems like a mystery character
maybe mystery man is jewel baby
Woah
i hope that's the case because introducing two seperate characters so late into the manga seems like a bad idea
even one is kinda pushing it
Iâm just gonna assume the spine art guy and mystery man are the same person
Baby might not even be explained
Spine art guy?
I haven't been keeping up with the convo too busy screaming internally over my injured finger XD
because tooru and hd have already appeared
When we get a better angle weâll see
maybe he's actually really old and is just poor tom's dad
Me
Oh shit
Are we talking about who that is on the spine
Yes
true, but it doesn't have any of the distinguishing hd features
It's in black
No scarf or hat but that could just because of the low quality picture
And it's like 8 pixels so it's hard to tell
Weâll see
Damn đ....
Maybe
can we at least agree that's HD
Maybe
Yup its really low quality but that gray suff must be the scarf ig
my theory that HD is Funny Valentine
From another dimension
FV actually survived but somehow his love train luck ability turned into this Calamity ability

