Did the bubbles distract the calamity ?
#jojolion
minor ore
And that's the reason why Rai was able to come that close
Because I did not understand that a lot
proper hinge
If Rai dies I’ll be insane sad.
dreamy zealot
not trying to be mean, but he is most likely dead
unless they do an exchange with the fruit
pliant sail
Yasuho is still laying there one-armed
proper hinge
Man fuck Jobin.
supple totem
proper hinge
Jobin is gay he be mean to Norisuke and is poopy.
supple totem
ngl. I would be mean to my father if he sent my mom to jail for defending me
idk bout u but i hella would
proper hinge
But Norisuke didn’t send her to prison did he, and also ofcourse he would as far as they were concerned she killed and innocent child.
proper hinge
The kid was still alive.
supple totem
can't let a bully ruin ur life
proper hinge
Murder isn’t the best option to deal with bullies.
supple totem
i guess
versed bough
is josuke the relative of norisuke from part 7?
or is this another alternate dimension
versed bough
I literally just found out josukes name
proper hinge
You mean Yoshikage Kira?
versed bough
What?
proper hinge
I’ll stop because I’ll spoil it.
crude axle
DO NOT LOOK HERE CAUSE OF SPOILERS
versed bough
Okay
heavy ledge
guys today is aug 19
heavy ledge
today is the day they fused
minor ore
I called it too bruh
heavy ledge
everybody get out of the channel i want to be alone
proper hinge
See’ya.
heavy ledge
When the stars lose their fire
And night steals the morning away
Forever and a day
I will stay, I will stay here with you my love
stiff musk
part 7 is calling and it wants it spin back
low walrus
do you think tooru can fuck wonder of u
cinder fern
Go away
low walrus
ok :(
heavy ledge
i am mourning here, off
limber yarrow
thats pretty cursed and gay
low walrus
yep
dapper patrol
minor ore
Im so glad that spin is back
chilly sluice
we're about to go into some [world] breaking shit arent we
stark fossil
The explanation of S&W makes me cry how is it meant to relate to plundering
And how did Rai stick to the ceiling did he cover his legs in glue again
Or use a ||bubble|| ? I don't flipping know any more
ornate yarrow
nope
he used his string to basicaly merge with the ceiling
i honestly dont even knwop
know
stark fossil
Oh yeah I guess his string can phase into stuff
That's how he picks up the strawberries in the Urban Guerrilla arc
Ok that one checks out
ornate yarrow
I feel like josuke will beat the head doctor and then get the fruit, and after that jobin just steals it
stark fossil
Whether Rai's string would be strong enough to pull half his body up about 3m... questionable
Joshu has the fruit though
ornate yarrow
joshu redemtion
stark fossil
Joshu Vs Jobin
near cedar
Joshu vs Tooru
minor ore
Tooru would floor joshu
stark fossil
Jobin wins and Joshu forgets about it
minor ore
As much as i'd want joshu to win he has no chance against tooru
ornate yarrow
yes
kind owlBOT
@ornate yarrow, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
near cedar
Still has to fight him
ornate yarrow
tooru best boi
near cedar
Fuck Tooru
stark fossil
Josuke probably has all he needs to kill Tooru at this point, I don't think nut man will get involved
near cedar
He better get involved, if not then my hype is for nothing
minor ore
This honestly feels like when pucci used jolyne to kill annasui
stark fossil
I did suddenly get "Tooru is AU Pucci" vibes from this one
Have to say not a fan of "I reflect your attack at you" as a protagonist ability
Araki already retconned that once
near cedar
Not using it =/= retcon
icy bluff
^
loud lintel
Day 13 of saying fuck tooru until joshu kicks his ass
near cedar
Giorno can still use it
Because it would be an instant win tho nobody ever directly attacks his animals
Except that one error scene of Diavolo
Like how people say his Life Punch is retconned even tho he is almost definitely still using it (but it would take too long if they slowed down every time he's beating somebody to death)
short canopy
THE SPIN
That is poggers
"part 1" and "part 2" of the new universe revolve around a certain technique
just like the og universe
pretty spicy
near cedar
They mostly revolve around stands tho
analog skiff
dododo was a pretty intense fight tbh
near cedar
Tell that to xforts
analog skiff
i respect xforts opinion but i heavily disagree with it lol
overall i say it's much more memorable than xforts' suggestion for the HD to have a gun
and it's actually pretty intense when it starts attempting to choke josuke
low walrus
head doctor with a gun???
analog skiff
xforts mentioned "just give the head doctor a gun" when people told him dododo was needed for josuke to actually move away from the chair
on twitter
stark fossil
I can accept life punch wasn't retconned because it makes sense if you don't see it
near cedar
Damn.... a gun so he can insta kill Josuke
analog skiff
plunder was retconned yeah lol
stark fossil
But with damage reflection how would you not use that all the time
near cedar
Because nobody attacks his animals
analog skiff
yeah but giorno could create an ant shield or smth
faint gust
Got to read the chapter now and I am so glad the spoiler from yesterday didn't match what I thought would happen
kinda
analog skiff
can't wait for the dododo leitmotif
stark fossil
If I was Giorno I'd create vines and wear them under my clothing
analog skiff
i unironically like de do do do de da da da (the song) a ton
analog skiff
i probs won't watch xforts 100 tbh
not just because d8 hate but because xforts 99 had so many misunderstandings and errors it's almost comical
faint gust
I wanna talk about Ch100 a little more so I'll put it in spoilers here:
||At the end I'm probably misinterpretating it but is Mamezuku now teaching Gappy the fucking spin||
analog skiff
you don't need to spoiler it
faint gust
oh cool
analog skiff
spin spin rai dead d8 dead
stark fossil
Araki could even have avoided reflection altogether if he had made Giorno turn the shovel handle into a snake so that it bends and the shovel head turns and smacks into Luka
stark fossil
One of the few ideas that makes me briefly want to be an animator
analog skiff
i wish there was a way to choose what people you don't want to see their retweets/likes on twitters
because i want to see hamon beat theories and part 8 jokes without having to deal with a bunch of weird retweets and likes
white beacon
analog skiff
and i just had proof of that point because i just saw a hamon beat retweet that was basically "this woman took a picture of herself she's a slut"
stark fossil
I follow Minecraft modders that like to like/retweet ecchi pictures and it's a bit awkward in public
simple kraken
what does that even mean
white beacon
We don't really need to see that, but I did just send images that show how to minimize seeing liked tweets from someone
stark fossil
Oh you click not interested? That's great. Thanks
minor ore
why is the jersey egirl being posted in the jojolion channel
analog skiff
hamon beat doing weird ass RTs
minor ore
analog skiff
and i'm trying to find out how to avoid them
but i can't find the option on pc
@white beacon
white beacon
I'm not on pc so I can't help on that side
stark fossil
@faint gust Gappy was using the spin instinctively from the start, probably even as Josefumi
faint gust
I kinda doubt he did a technique you have to learn just naturally like that
stark fossil
Joseph managed it with Hamon...
faint gust
he trained
simple kraken
Apparently the "spin" which rai was referring to was not the "spin" from sbr, just a general term
stark fossil
I hope so
analog skiff
okay yes it removed the likes
THANK YOU GUYS NO MORE WEIRD HAMON BEAT STUFF ON MY TIMELINE
simple kraken
W
white beacon
The difference between hamon and spin is that hamon talent is found in people, spin is a technique that needs to be actively taught to be able to uss
stark fossil
£0 cash prize to anyone who can tell me how concept plundering relates to cord reflection or the spin or whatever
analog skiff
plundering is gone
stark fossil
Ok idk whether it's THE Spin or not but it's funny that after everything we've seen, the idea of a Stand that can instinctively perform the Spin is out of the question
analog skiff
to you
stark fossil
Not to me
minor ore
Fuck plundering.The spin is superior
stark fossil
I miss plundering but am glad Gappy's less OP (at the moment) because it's gone
white beacon
That depends if the unseeable things in the spinning bubbles are more OP or less OP
stark fossil
I can't remember the wording but I felt like I was reading something that would get much clearer after a different translation haha
I couldn't tell if he was just talking about little objects Gappy normally contains in bubbles
Or something symbolic...
low walrus
gappy's bubbles are actually rapidly spinning string
stark fossil
Happy little jump ropes
I like Rai's positivity, he's like hey this isn't misfortune, this is a teaching moment! When he could have explained any time between Urban Guerrilla and him getting arrested
minor ore
It's a manga tho
foggy furnace
stark fossil
I can't argue with that...
stark fossil
Oh god and Rai's ||donutting|| what was that about? Did he make that hole or did Josuke?
If the hole was there the whole time ||why didn't it go through his clothing? Did he swallow a bubble??||
gentle venture
wtf does rai mean by ||there are things that can't be seen in josuke's soap bubble||
stark fossil
I think that might be another mystery for another chapter
minor ore
Stand evo
near cedar
It's why he had so much trouble fighting Santana
minor ore
Rai being donutted might be due to the Calamity
supple totem
Didnt it come from one of josuke calamity effected bigger bubbles?
near cedar
Rai being donutted might be due to the Calamity
I thought that was obvious
kind chasm
it is
serene ice
Rip Mamezuku
kind owlBOT
@serene ice, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
minor ore
He'll always be my MAMAazuku in my heart
white beacon
Josuke really tried to 300iq tactics Wonder Of U but instead his idea became the calamity
serene ice
Did anyone else find this chapter really short?
white beacon
There's a lot of double page spreads
kind chasm
rai survived so much shit
kind chasm
lmao
serene ice
Yeah, let's be honest, he should really die here
supple totem
And prob missing some of his lungs too
And a part of his spine
And without the spine u cant move
white beacon
He's string, he can move however he wants
supple totem
minor ore
Bruh if rai survives this shit jobin better not die to a spray can
supple totem
U guys like jobin?
white beacon
We stan a beetle king
serene ice
We about to see a new infinite spin?
supple totem
Im glad you said that jan
Cause i got something 4 u
Free joubin wallpaper for u
minor ore
Joubin is the best character in jjl
white beacon
Jobin's got so much characterization and time spent on this part, if he dies from that then it's more of a waste of character than fugo and sandman combined
white beacon
I said combined
white beacon
I will say it's not my style sorry
white beacon
I dunno, "not my style" is just another way of saying I personally don't like it, sorry
supple totem
Fair
kind chasm
Umm... so, personally... this is the first time this has happened, so I'm a bit surprised. Only a centimeter away... I mean, I don't think there's ever been someone who's gotten that close to me... without a, you know... calamity occurring. I'm not really... not really sure what happens at one centimeter away... 'cause it's my first time. I don't really understand it either. Seriously. But in the flow of calamity... there's nobody who can attack me. Not a single person. That, I know for sure. Wonder of U
faint gust
At least I am glad he wasn't another MY STAND HAS NO WEAKNESS type of guy
supple totem
Laughs in yellow temparance
minor ore
At least I am glad he wasn't another MY STAND HAS NO WEAKNESS type of guy
@faint gust I'm sure he has said that at some point
faint gust
if he did then he didn't do it in as blatantly annoying enough way for me to remember
minor ore
Well yeah
supple totem
Orenga stando, Yerrow temparancu ni... JAKUTEN WA NAI!
clever snow
]\
brazen orbit
Umm... 🥺 so, personally🙄 ... this 🖐️is the first 🌓 time⌚ this has happened ✔️, so I'm a bit 🤏 surprised :O . Only a centimeter 📏away💨 ... I mean 💭, I don't think🤔 there's ever been someone 👤who's gotten that close👥 to me... without a, you know😳... calamity 💥occurring. I'm not really... 😶not really sure 😕what happens at one centimeter📏 away.💨.. 'cause it's my 🥇 first time⌛. I don't really understand 🤯 it either. Seriously. 🧐 But in the 🌊flow of calamity .🔥.. there's nobody🚷 who can attack me. ⛔Not a single person 🙅♂️. That,👍 I know for sure. 😎Wonder of U.✨
minor ore
That hurt to read
kind chasm
Umm... so, personally... this is the first time this has happened, so I'm a bit surprised. Only a centimeter away... I mean, I don't think there's ever been someone who's gotten that close to me... without a, you know... calamity occurring. I'm not really... not really sure what happens at one centimeter away... 'cause it's my first time. I don't really understand it either. Seriously. But in the flow of calamity... there's nobody who can attack me. Not a single person. That, I know for sure. Wonder of U
stark fossil
And now the uwu version
kind chasm
Umm... so, pewsonawwy... this is the fiwst time this has happened, so i'm a bit suwpwised. Onwy a centimetew away... I mean, i don't think thewe's evew been someone who's gotten that cwose to me... without a, you know... cawamity occuwwing. I'm not weawwy... not weawwy suwe what happens at one centimetew away... 'cause it's my fiwst time. I don't weawwy undewstand it eithew. Sewiouswy. But in the fwow of cawamity... thewe's nobody who can attack me. Not a singwe pewson. That, i know fow suwe. Wondew of u.
@stark fossil here you go
stark fossil
Christ
limber yarrow
part 8 feels more like a part 2 more than part 4
stark fossil
Thanks but also no thanks
near cedar
@kind chasm oh God that UwU version
limber yarrow
imo tho
near cedar
I will shoot you lmao
stark fossil
Yes
limber yarrow
i know that part 2 doesn't have stands
stark fossil
Every chapter Part 8 feels like a different combination of two Parts
limber yarrow
mamezuku feels like a joseph
while josuke feels like a caesar
kind chasm
hermit purple
stark fossil
Ah but mamezuku looks like a kakyoin
kind chasm
and they ||probably died the same way ||
limber yarrow
ahh yes
minor ore
Ah but mamezuku looks like a kakyoin
So did diego
limber yarrow
terday
stark fossil
So Part 8 == Part 7 == Part 3, that's what we have learned
faint gust
JOJOOOOOO- oh wait nobody in recent parts says that name anymore
JOSUKEEE
THE SPIN OF LUCK
TAKE IT FROM MEEEEE
stark fossil
Plunder all my luck Jousuke
night moon
today is the day that kira and josefumi died!
near cedar
It is?!
night moon
yep! august 19th
faint gust
minor ore
Kira died in such a stupid way
near cedar
Damn you Damo
minor ore
night moon
i love him sm
faint gust
sorry for the time I thought you'd be a villain when you weren't
faint gust
it's so funny and sad at the same time thinking of when I was reading the first half of the part and my brain was NAH HE'LL HAVE A BULLSHIT REASON TO BE ALIVE AND GO CUT GAPPY'S HAND
stark fossil
minor ore
What did they cut out of kira when he was wet paper again?
minor ore
It was a kidney or a liver
near cedar
It was one of those i'm sure
stark fossil
Ouch
kind owlBOT
@stark fossil, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 10 !
minor ore
I think liver
near cedar
Bastards hurt my boi
stark fossil
The money they could have made from organ harvesting but they want to do fruit instead
near cedar
They make about the same amount me thinks
minor ore
Are the rock humans secretly good!??!??
near cedar
Who said dis?
stark fossil
Rock humans best humans better than meat humans
minor ore
God i hate meat humans
stark fossil
All my homies hate meat humans
near cedar
u r 1 tho
stark fossil
I'm mostly composed of cereal
ashen raft
corn humans
kind chasm
meat humans suck
foggy furnace
like a fusion of those parts
ebon rampart
Ok so I just read the new chapter and it was all great and all
But nobody mentioned the araki interview link at the end of the chapter?
kind chasm
no
minor ore
probably a Rick roll or something
stark fossil
That's outstanding
near cedar
I'll tell ya that much
stark fossil
What will end first, Part 8 or the development of the first boss of the game
limber yarrow
i'd say part 8
part 8 will outlive the announcement of part 6 anime
but the announcement of the anime will outlive the development of the first boss
stark fossil
Optimistic
foggy furnace
amazing shitpost
low walrus
the universe will end before osana releases
gentle venture
anyone else notice the placing of the rock on josuke's eye has changed
kind chasm
yeah
gentle venture
kind chasm
yep
near cedar
Thanks I hate it
kind chasm
foggy furnace
Sorry fo bed inglish
Where were you when rai mamezuku die
I was at house reading Jojolion when wonder of u ring
Rai is kill
No
kind owlBOT
@foggy furnace, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
kind chasm
no
minor ore
Plot twist funny valentine is head doctor
ebon rampart
yeah its in the jojowiki
foggy furnace
Plot twist Caato's maiden name is Valentine
kind chasm
yeah nice,
minor ore
But we don't even know if rai is actually a spin user
kind chasm
its in spin users but not in charcater bio in abilites
minor ore
I still think it's dumb to put him there
ebon rampart
Well i mean he was kinda using it with his string ability to show josuke so i guess that kinda counts
soft raptor
craggy plume
Pretty good chapter imo
minor ore
@ebon rampart if any stand has potential for spin everyone from sbr universe is a spin user
ebon rampart
what is this man saying lol
kind owlBOT
@ebon rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 36 !
kind chasm
hes saying --> if any stand has potential for spin everyone from sbr universe is a spin user
ebon rampart
faint gust
just move in circles lmao
minor ore
Ikr
But you don't need a stand to be a spin user and secondary many people can probably learn the spin if they train hard enough
Yeah that too I guess
ebon rampart
Never said that you need a stand to be a spin user, also its shown that rai pierced himself using that same rotational energy that gyro used to pierce wekapipo
faint gust
am I wrong to assume that's just part of being affected by the calamity
ebon rampart
Well i mean WoU is acting shocked in that panel so I don’t think that it was a calamity
white beacon
I wouldn't say you're wrong, jobin for example finds the straw already in his chest, seemingly bypassing his jacket
faint gust
he could be shocked just due to him doing that to himself
minor ore
I would say he was more like surprised
woven agate
Josuke in this chapter be like:
https://youtu.be/rvSVQg1Ae58
ebon rampart
near cedar
Sigward of Caterina
faint gust
I both love and feel bad looking at the song origins and the WHOLE comment section is JoJo fans
right now at de do do do and wonder of u specifically
ebon crown
wonder of you is such a good song as well
low walrus
paisly park is good song
minor ore
Okay so I just read the Hi Wa Mata translation
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
ebon crown
paisly park is a good song as well
minor ore
Oh I feel you
Well, I thought Hi Wa Mata’s translation made a lot of stuff more clear
Though I’m sad that it changed the whole Wonder of U speech
kind chasm
Umm... so, personally... this is the first time this has happened, so I'm a bit surprised. Only a centimeter away... I mean, I don't think there's ever been someone who's gotten that close to me... without a, you know... calamity occurring. I'm not really... not really sure what happens at one centimeter away... 'cause it's my first time. I don't really understand it either. Seriously. But in the flow of calamity... there's nobody who can attack me. Not a single person. That, I know for sure. Wonder of U.
im sure this will be a (bigger) meme when its out
same with the napkin
kind sphinx
I hope HD and Tooru get separate voice actors
kind chasm
I hope HD and Tooru get separate voice actors
same
minor ore
Oh that's a shame
kind sphinx
I think the only exception might be Cheap Trick
minor ore
But I'm sure they'll be different for Wonder of U if he pretendedsto be a 89 year old man
low walrus
@kind sphinx aren't you that homophobe that got banned
kind sphinx
no that's someone else
low walrus
Oh cuz you have the same pfp
low walrus
imagine being scared of houses lmao
frozen charm
Yeah
minor ore
Imagine being eggward
minor ore
Idk but you are my enemy now
frozen charm
Why
kind sphinx
I'm an eggaphobe
kind sphinx
I carry a gun for any sudden chicken attacks
minor ore
Why
Idk im bored
kind chasm
Umm... so, pewsonawwy... this is the fiwst time this has happened, so i'm a bit suwpwised. Onwy a centimetew away... I mean, i don't think thewe's evew been someone who's gotten that cwose to me... without a, you know... cawamity occuwwing. I'm not weawwy... not weawwy suwe what happens at one centimetew away... 'cause it's my fiwst time. I don't weawwy undewstand it eithew. Sewiouswy. But in the fwow of cawamity... thewe's nobody who can attack me. Not a singwe pewson. That, i know fow suwe. Wondew of u.
minor ore
No
lost slate
ToorUwU
ebon rampart
stark fossil
@kind chasm do NOT normalise Tooruwu
lost slate
We already have Doctor UwU, JoshUwU, TsUwUgi and AkefUwU SatorUwU, what's one more
minor ore
Yasuhowo
kind chasm
JosUwU
urban kelp
Is there a Chapter next month? Or no?
kind chasm
nope
minor ore
Nowo
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 13 !
kind chasm
a chapter in 2 months
urban kelp
Oh Neptune
kind chasm
what you guys think when will jjl end
urban kelp
FeelBadInc.exe has started
kind chasm
my guess is chapter 124 or something
urban kelp
Never
kind chasm
i think jojolion wil be like 72 episodes when ir its animated
minor ore
If*
kind chasm
cause it is going to have more chapters
urban kelp
Bold of you to assume it’ll be animated
urban kelp
#ArakiForgot
kind chasm
guys araki joined this server
ebon rampart
kind chasm
he says part 8 will finish in 10 yrs
check #jojo-overall-discussion
its araki himselfffffffffffffğğ
minor ore
Wow
coral cliff
So, people have been saying that Kaato cannot be a rock human
Because the Higashikata children don't experience any signs of being rock humans themselves
Here is the thing though: They do
They experience a "disease" which causes them to turn to stone
And what is the first ability we see a rock human do
Turn to stone
minor ore
Are you caught up in jojolion?
coral cliff
Yes I am
Apparently Josuke is gonna use the spin
And I actually like the rock insect fight more now; there hasn't been a lot of close combat in JoJolion
minor ore
If you are caught up in jojolion then why would you say that?
white beacon
The higashikata's form of rock disease has been in the family ever since Rina Higashikata's generation
winter ridge
there has got to be some connections between the rock disease and rock humans and rokakaka
like they are all "turn into rock"
they are too similar
white beacon
It goes even deeper, for the higashikatas it's only one specific member of the generation
low walrus
smaller file size version of speen joshu
crystal axle
I still don't know what happened to "We need to get the Rokakaka to cure the rock disease"
minor ore
What do you mean?
serene pasture
it's still going on, yknow
That has been Jobin's whole plan ever since he was introduced
minor ore
Do people not pay attention?
Because the Higashikata children don't experience any signs of being rock humans themselves
@coral cliff what if they are half rock and look mostly normal?
It seems the disease has been in the family longer than Rina's generation, since Tsurugi says it's been going on for "hundreds of years."
crystal axle
Jobin is trying to get the new rokakaka right now despite him having had access to the rokakaka for years
hard meteor
what?
minor ore
@crystal axle uhh please pay more attention when you read
Yeah
If you dont you say things like this and look like an idiot
white beacon
No spiderclown is right, jobin has been in cooperation with the rockies for a long time
minor ore
He only recently learned the roka could be changed
He's right on that yes but the other things@white beacon
crystal axle
Why is he risking his life for the grafted rokakaka when he could just... get a normal one
minor ore
You idiot
inland oyster
The rokakaka requires an equivalent exchange
minor ore
The grafted roka is different
hard meteor
right, he only just got the new rokakaka branch recently and right now hes injured so he cant use it
white beacon
You guys don't have to be rude
winter ridge
u dont have to be so mean
i mean, the power of the grafted rokakaka is still basically up in the air
minor ore
Yeah like he's wrong but jeez
inland oyster
This new one doesn’t have it and means Tsurugi can be safely healed without any casualties.
crystal axle
I'm literally raising a normal question what's the deal
winter ridge
sorry idk why, it seems like a fair question to me
minor ore
It's kinda factually incorrect I guess?
winter ridge
but there WAS still an exchange with the grafter rokakaka, when josefumi exchanged his own life for Kira's
crystal axle
Explain it then?
kind sphinx
foolish losers who think their improved knowledge on a fictional universe causes them to outrank you
inland oyster
This new locacaca isn’t the same as the other two.
winter ridge
"two" what?
minor ore
Two grafted before it ig?
inland oyster
-The normal one.
-The one Josefumi used.
minor ore
foolish losers who think their improved knowledge on a fictional universe causes them to outrank you
Who?
winter ridge
josefumi used the grafted one tho
minor ore
Hes talking about you soup
I dont think i outrank anyone
I just dont like it when people dont pay attention
@winter ridge yeah but the one grafted on the tree and the one on the cactus is different?
winter ridge
i thought they just took the one from the tree, put it on the cactus, and now its basically the same
white beacon
They are different visually
inland oyster
The grafted one Josefumi used still has the law of equivalent exchange.
This new one is assumed to not have that law and can potentially save Tsurugi without a sacrifice.
white beacon
And grafting in irl can create hybrids or something iirc
winter ridge
@inland oyster it definitely did do an exchange though, as we saw with kira and josefumi
minor ore
I guess ability wise it's different too @white beacon
inland oyster
@inland oyster it definitely did do an exchange though, as we saw with kira and josefumi
@winter ridge That’s what I said
crystal axle
Same goes for Holly btw, why can Josuke not use any of the normal Rokakaka he's found up to that point?
white beacon
Because it might damage her brain
minor ore
Yeah
inland oyster
I think you guys are confused
winter ridge
@inland oyster but you just said it doesnt do exchanges
crystal axle
Wouldn't it fix her brain? I don't think the exchange sacrifices the same body part
minor ore
I'm leaving I got headache
inland oyster
The rock humans want this new fruit to improve their trade and make more money.
The Higashikata’s want this new fruit to save Tsurugi without sacrificing someone.
Josuke wants this new fruit to heal his mom without endangering her to a side effect of the older fruit.
hard meteor
a normal rokakaka would not fix her brain,it would probably make it worse off
inland oyster
@inland oyster but you just said it doesnt do exchanges
@winter ridge The new one doesn’t
hard meteor
the new rokakaka,is the best chance josuke has and right now he cant get to it
white beacon
Hmmm, I guess another way of seeing it would be that if Josuke uses the regular locacaca, it wouldn't solve the problem of her still having rock parts, which might or might not hinder her more or less
twilit cobalt
I'm so excited for the rest of Jojolion
crystal axle
Smh they shouldn't have killed Woo
twilit cobalt
They use L I MP B I Z K I T to bring him back lol
inland oyster
Right now though. The pot is with Joshu and none of them have been taken out yet
white beacon
The research was already complete in the form of 6251, which is why it is now public
twilit cobalt
Do you guys thing Norisuke is dead? Or just injured?
inland oyster
Injured
proper hinge
He better not be dead.
white beacon
But I guess josuke still has a grudge to deal with since the rockies experimentes on holly
inland oyster
It’s not within Jobin’s character and he says that he doesn’t want to kill him
hard meteor
leaning torwards dead by the flashforward
twilit cobalt
Same tbh. I really think he's dead, but I'm hoping not.
crystal axle
I don't think Araki is legally allowed to kill off the two best boys at once
Three*
twilit cobalt
You say that now
But remember when he killed off 3 stardust crusaders in like 2 eps of the anime
white beacon
He legally is allowed since it's his property of work
hard meteor
hes killed much more best boys on a higher scale before
twilit cobalt
I miss Jonathan
ebon rampart
twilit cobalt
why would you send propaganda
crystal axle
Is the tsundere translation more accurate?
coral cliff
Hear me out
I don't think Kaato is the only rock human in the Higashikata Bloodline
I think that one of the Higashikata family's distant ancestors is also a rock human
That is what caused the hereditary rock disease
In other words, the Higashikata children didn't just inherit rock human traits from Kaato, but also from Norisuke
white beacon
That's... That's literally the actual thing
The first born inherits the disease
Kaato is an outsider, so it like, is from norisuke
That's explained in the manga
inland oyster
Kaato isn’t a rock human
coral cliff
Kaato isn’t a rock human
@inland oyster She probably is though
crystal axle
She was in prison for 15 years
kind owlBOT
@crystal axle, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
crystal axle
You can't just dip out for a month and act like nothing happened
white beacon
Norisuke would've known in their years of marriage
coral cliff
She had access to the Rokakaka cartel, and it is known that the Rokakaka can cause rock humans to awaken from their hibernation
inland oyster
She had access because her kid was a member of the organization
crystal axle
Isn't the Rokakaka hibernation thing like, implied to not be relevant anymore
coral cliff
It is said she worked for 3000 days in prison, presumably to stave off hibernation and keep up her human facade
inland oyster
Hmmmm
minor ore
rock humans make me rock hard
crystal axle
Most things from the Yotsuyu fight have been retconned at this point
inland oyster
Like what
ebon rampart
Lol
inland oyster
Part isn’t even done yet and people are calling retcons
crystal axle
Remember when rockhumans could create plastic from their mouths?
white beacon
Eyes
inland oyster
When and where would this ability be practical
winter ridge
"i killed you between those rocks"
was retconned
inland oyster
Context?
winter ridge
in the yotsuyu fight
white beacon
And I only know one retcon and it's when he says he killed josefumi, but it was because of kira that he survived, but kq/vitc arc shows the exact opposite
crystal axle
Or when Rock humans could go on amd off between sleeping and being awake?
winter ridge
i still think they can do that
it hasnt been contradicted
stark fossil
Maybe the plastic was just the effect of an attack by a rock animal called Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Do
crystal axle
Wait actually I might be stupid on that last part the rock dog did that during Ozone Baby
inland oyster
The only retcons I can think of is Yotsuyu killing Josefumi/Kira and Jobin being a rock human
white beacon
My rock insect 「Dimmsdale Dimmadome」can create plastic wrap from my eyes
inland oyster
There a weird panel where Jobin is camouflaging as rocks
eternal lance
egfdjh
hard meteor
This panel right
inland oyster
Yeah
ebon rampart
i was trying to search up that de de do do doo doo da song or whatever and it came up with this
inland oyster
Don’t start theorizing. This would go against what we understand about rock people
crystal axle
L O R E
inland oyster
Jobin’s aging normally and raised by Noriuske as a baby. He also doesn’t turn to rock the last time we see him, nearly dead.
crystal axle
The unsolved mystery pile is starting to get massive
crystal axle
I feel like Araki was planning that but decided to drop it
winter ridge
although maybe it was a visual way of showing that what norisuke thought was a rock, was actually jobin
like him taking a closer look
like it wasnt literally him "being a rock"
crystal axle
I don't remember exactly whem but didn't like, Damo have this monologue on that the New Rokakaka could bring people back to life
Tooru jobin fusion when
hard meteor
damo thought the new rokakaka fused both josefumi and kira when it was combination of the wall eyes and the fruit,doesn't seem like many rock humans aside from yotsuyu(maybe) knew what the wall eyes did
crystal axle
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it's retconned and the Rokakaka was the main catalyst, since Kyo also appears to be gone, but this is more canon compliant for now so I'll believe this
winter ridge
i am actually worried that this stuff will never be properly explained, but araki does some crazy stuff so i guess we can all hope for some good explanations
cinder fern
after all one chapter ago he solved the wall eyes out of nowhere
vocal mason
it just wasn't out of nowhere
winter ridge
wdym "solved"
cinder fern
well not exactly out of nowhere but
winter ridge
like the fact that they are devil's palms?
vocal mason
i assume that its because the saints corpse was alluded to be the cause of the walleyes
cinder fern
were you exactly expecting that?
vocal mason
yes
cinder fern
fair enough
vocal mason
because that's been a theory for ages
hard meteor
yeah it was hinted a long while ago wall eyes where related devils palms
vocal mason
what with Johnny hiding the corpse under the tree
hard meteor
yeah and ojiro gaining his stand when it was under his house
vocal mason
and people who live near the wall eyes getting stands for no apparent reason
The earthquake just shifted the ground
the walleyes were always there
possibly the same reason that Kira, Kyo and Holly have a stand
assuming people don't get stands genetically in this universe
minor ore
They presumably do, considering Araki decided to include that "rule" in the SBR bonus chapter, without mentioning any kind of exception.
white beacon
It's funny because none of them got their stands naturally
minor ore
even tho jolyne needed a arrow
white beacon
If araki used diavolo and trish as the example, then I think that woulda carried that rule a bit better
ebon rampart
white beacon
Cx it's sbr
grizzled pilot
true but still
white beacon
Which means it's not a spoiler anymore!
grizzled pilot
its how araki seems to feel
grizzled pilot
there's not very much official art of diavolo
white beacon
Oh yeah that too
Almost as if... Diavolo.... Isn't a real person in terms of meta-jojo
grizzled pilot
🤔
white beacon
Like... Just an entity... A devil, mayhaps
grizzled pilot
white beacon
Diavolo is a devil that possessed Doppio theory intensifies
crystal axle
Diavolo is the original body ffs
grizzled pilot
source?
crystal axle
Doppio is too young
minor ore
Diavolo is the head doctor and is gonna experience another death loop
grizzled pilot
true. the devil is like really old
minor ore
I have a joke theory that valentine is the head doctor
kind chasm
e
white beacon
Jobin and hato are there too
winter ridge
and foo fighters
inland oyster
Who
faint gust
can I just say I really appreciate Part 8 for making stand designs even for abilities that wouldn't really need one?
Like Doggy Style or Ozone Baby. Former could've just been the bands and Ozone Baby would've been the house thing
Now to imagine what Hermit Purple or Love Deluxe would look like with actual designs
crystal axle
I kinda liked the stands without designs tbh
faint gust
I don't mind them, I'm just a sucker for stands because they are an excuse for more cool character designs
I can appreciate stuff like Emperor which doesn't look like a person but still has a unique look to it
crystal axle
If scary monsters had a physical form it would make Diego a lot less cool imo, the whole appeal of formless stands is that the user is actually using the powers directly
faint gust
you have a point
crystal axle
I do agree though that Hermit Purple should have been a punch ghost, it's one of the least interesting stands despite embodying the concept of Hamon
old marlin
@proper hinge Late but Don't use slurs
lost scroll
King nothing has the coolest look of all the stands
coral cliff
It's been all but confirmed that Josuke's bubbles can use the spin, righ
minor ore
Yes
coral cliff
You know what that means
simple kraken
Not the spin
coral cliff
HAMON BUBBLE CUTTA
minor ore
Yeah
coral cliff
When this gets animated, and Josefumi sacrifices himself for Kira, people are going to be crying their eyes out
I guarantee it
minor ore
Maybe
frozen charm
Mommyzuku
minor ore
MAMAzuku
frozen charm
Ok
heavy ledge
When this gets animated, and Josefumi sacrifices himself for Kira, people are going to be crying their eyes out
@coral cliff i cried anyway. Im not ready to see it animated. I wont be ready in 20 years time either
heavy ledge
Too optimistic
minor ore
Nahh
frozen charm
When 1 centimeter
ebon rampart
Araki is a senile old man disguised as a genius
minor ore
Araki, the old man with the pen
kind chasm
this is gonna get memed alot
ebon rampart
kind chasm
minor ore
outer tapir
i will never not be thinking about the rock baby part
heavy ledge
why is wonder of you so.... 😳
night moon
i want to make more jjl fanart but i don’t have the SKILL i hate it here
faint gust
I have trouble with human characters so I feel you
I did start a Wonder of U drawing and I already wanna start over
tl;dr I overexaggerated the perspective and now I have more panels for proper reference of the design I think so I'm hoping to do something better
night moon
i made a tooru/wonder of U sketch a while back and WOU looked awful and i fucked up tooru’s proportions lol
heavy ledge
practise makes perfect eevn if u think u dont notice right away you will see difference in time
night moon
look at this motherfucker
heavy ledge
its like going to the gym u wont notice it immediately
because u are used to yourself
night moon
WOU literally looks like a cardboard cutout lol
willow crystal
I hope Kyo returns soon because I really like her she was a interesting character who revealed the biggest thing about Josuke
night moon
TECHNICALLY we’re in present day and there’s been a flash forward
vast ermine
Hey guys here to say again Kaato will ABSOLUTELY end up being the Main villain and also a rock human
outer tapir
i forgot she existed until you mentioned it
does her stand pose a major threat, though?
queen fox
207493158
Kaato shows up at the house
"you've done enough, my child"
kills Jobin (lol)
"I guess it can't be helped. Mommy will clean up your mess one last time. Leave it to me."
a perfect foil/parallel to Holly helping out Josuke and completely subverts the readers' (but not mine, obv) expectations.
stolen from 4chan
inland oyster
Greentext on discord
queen fox
if this happens bro
hushed rover
he ded for good?
kind owlBOT
@hushed rover, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !
inland oyster
No
torpid anvil
yasuho thought joshu looked like josuke during the paper moon king arc and was fine with going somewhere private with him until she noticed joshu didn’t have four balls
meaning yasuho wants that good josuke dick 😳
outer tapir
hope not
kind owlBOT
@outer tapir, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
hushed rover
i forgot mamezuku's stand ability, so how was he able to get close to the HD without abestos spewing out
torpid anvil
i’m on plant appraiser part 1 i need to see my self out of this conversation
outer tapir
😔
torpid anvil
anyways yasuho wants to fuck josuke (:
noble haven
No, doubt. Rai is a descendant of the Zeppeli Family. Why? (My theory)
•The Zeppeli Family can only harness the power of the Infinite Rotation/Spin/Golden Rectangle
•When Rai said that his strings/threads began to spin, and damages his body.
•Yoshikage Kira is a descendant of Joestar family, and Johnny mastered the rotation with the help of Gyro.
•The spin will be in effect if Gyro gives signal (correct me if I'm wrong) same as goes for Rai and Josuke. The spin won't effect if he doesn't have Josuke's soap bubbles.
•The Spin of Rai and Josuke has more destructive power than the Golden Rectangle technique of Johnny and Gyro. Kinda like a reboot of the spin technique.
kind owlBOT
@noble haven, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 23 !
noble haven
based mee6
torpid anvil
based on what 
outer tapir
anyways yasuho wants to fuck josuke (:
I’m not saying you should but I am saying it would be very easy to make a soft and wet joke about this
vast ermine
@outer tapir We know fuck all about her stand
night moon
who wouldn’t want to fuck josuke
vast ermine
Besides deck of cards that makes pocket dimensions ???
grizzled pilot
not to mention his knowledge of italian desserts 🤔
outer tapir
she sure can put things in it! and thats the extent of our knowledge 😔
vast ermine
With the building of the rock human lore and how human / rock human relationships are described by araki, it seems hes HEAVILY hinting towards Kaato being a parasitic rock human attaching herself and becoming part of the higashikata family
outer tapir
i love the rock human lore so much
vast ermine
Me too
It would also make sense since she seems to be in on the whole rokakaka shit
albeit we dont know how
Shes gonna be the secret shadow lord that steps out after Tooru
Hes the bait
And I bet Joubin will have to kill her
Despite the fact that he loves her
She also said she spent ALL of her days busy in prison
night moon
y’all realize rai never got donutted right
vast ermine
And remember that rock humans have to stay active or they hibernate
He was spinning right
The bands
Kaato is MV, BET
tepid nebula
I’d rather Rai not be a zeppeli
They aren’t the only ones who practice using spin either
inland oyster
And it’s dumb
tepid nebula
Kinda lowkey
near cedar
does her stand pose a major threat, though?
@outer tapir It can hide things between playing cards
tepid nebula
U find out Rai is actually of Zeppeli lineage only when he is “seemingly” dead? Like lmao doubtful
near cedar
So as far as we know at this moment it doesn't pose a threat no
outer tapir
i guess if she hides a person but otherwise
near cedar
Idk maybe she could hide a knife in the cards
inland oyster
Who could that person be
minor ore
y’all realize rai never got donutted right
@night moon what would you call this then?
that looks like a donut to me
tepid nebula
He looks like he did that on purpose but eh
tepid nebula
He can unravel parts of his body
minor ore
they don't bleed when he does it though
near cedar
That doesn't look unraveled
minor ore
did you read the new chapter?
tepid nebula
They showed a chunk of his brain getting erased but not 70% of his chest?
robust ibex
i thought rai donutted himself but i think it was just something that happened
tepid nebula
Seeing as how he lost chunks of his body it wouldn’t be unreasonable to bleed
minor ore
I thought it was fairly clear it was the bubbles
tepid nebula
Clearly I did lol
minor ore
tepid nebula
Notice how the wounds aren’t consistent in size
minor ore
he even says soap bubbles
tepid nebula
Do u see his one going through his chest tho?
inland oyster
I don’t get how Rai isn’t immediately dead but I’ll wait and see
minor ore
not to mention this whole page
inland oyster
Might be some stand fuckery
tepid nebula
That’s not my point lmfao notice how the panels didn’t show one going through his chest
The biggest wound on his body
minor ore
because it was under his shirt???
tepid nebula
That’s why it seems like something else may be happening
vast ermine
@near cedar we’ve seen her stand once, and reminder it’s eerily similar to how d4c works
tepid nebula
Bro
inland oyster
How are they similar
tepid nebula
So why did the other bubbles pop up
near cedar
Similar yes, very very vaguely
tepid nebula
On the outside of his body
vast ermine
SHES THE FUCKING RING LEADER
tepid nebula
And not the biggest there
near cedar
But hers is like mini-D4C
vast ermine
By storing things / au transportation, between things
near cedar
Cuz it has to use playing cards as i understood
vast ermine
I expect her ability isn’t that alone tho,
We have seen it used like twice
And don’t even know it’s name
tepid nebula
Honestly I can’t see Kaato not getting clapped by anyone in the part
vast ermine
Yeah CAUSE WE HAVE ONLY SEEN HER “ability” TWICE
tepid nebula
Granted we barely know about her stand stand wise it looks like she doesn’t have a physical stand
vast ermine
We have no clue if that’s it’s extent of power
minor ore
@tepid nebula I can't even show you the screen shot because discord scans it and thinks it's nsfw
vast ermine
She’s gonna be a rock human
vast ermine
That’s not a hole dw it’s just the spin guys
minor ore
lmao
vast ermine
Dw
minor ore
definitely not a donut
tepid nebula
@minor ore yeah my point is notice how bigger that hole looks compared to the other ones
minor ore
guys he's totally unravelling himself
vast ermine
he’s pulling a jolyne
tepid nebula
Who said it wasn’t a hole? Don’t twise my works lmfao
vast ermine
Wacky crazy stringy shit
tepid nebula
Twist*
minor ore
there's no cloth though
tepid nebula
I said he was probably doing something to show Josuke
minor ore
if he was unravelling there would be cloth
tepid nebula
and it’s not just 100% cuz of a stray bubble hitting him
vast ermine
Tbf it the calamity charged bubble would have destroyed his shirt like it did his hat
tepid nebula
Then how come the panels didn’t show a bubble hitting him the chest
kind owlBOT
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minor ore
true
tepid nebula
Bruh I said that like 2 or 3 times before lmfao
minor ore
idc either way that's a donut
tepid nebula
Point is Rai is showing that for a reason and there will probably be some relevance to it than just a part in his death
tepid nebula
He arguably got worse in ozon baby
tepid nebula
Koichi
minor ore
true
tepid nebula
Bruno sorta
minor ore
sort of
tepid nebula
Uhhhhhhhhh
minor ore
he still died there though
tepid nebula
Anasui
minor ore
Anasui died
tepid nebula
no he didn’t lol
minor ore
bro
tepid nebula
What was the arc name
White snake the pursuer?
he survived the wound
I don’t mean died overall I mean survived the arc/wound
minor ore
oh yeah
near cedar
Anasui was donuted twice
minor ore
overall he died
near cedar
And then was alive again later (reincarnated)
minor ore
yeah
tepid nebula
So he still sorta survived it
minor ore
Anakiss
tepid nebula
Oh yeah who’s another
minor ore
he eventually died though
tepid nebula
Wekapipo
minor ore
Wekapipo died
tepid nebula
U said “no one has ever survived a donut in forever”
minor ore
Okay?
tepid nebula
Or something like that
minor ore
I was incorrect lmao
ebon rampart
minor ore
you already proved that with Koichi
ebon rampart
Joshu anniversery lezgoooo
tepid nebula
I mean the way u were arguing who else I brought up u didn’t imply u were talking about dying overall otherwise
minor ore
but he's a creep to Yasuho
also he tried to sexually assault his mom
so I'm still weary of him
hard meteor
no he didnt
ebon rampart
Joshuphobes 🤢
tepid nebula
No he didn’t lmfao
hard meteor
he did that to ger tf out of norisukes house
minor ore
Joshu literally unhooked his mom's bra and asked her if he could suck on her tits
how are you gonna defend that
lmao
inland oyster
Trying to take off someone’s clothes without their consent is sexual assault...
tepid nebula
She was also a child murderer
hard meteor
theres nothing to defend really its obvoius he was being like that so she can leave
minor ore
Trying to take off someone’s clothes without their consent is sexual assault...
@inland oyster EXACTLY
near cedar
His mom who he never met? That mom?
hard meteor
dude kicked a chair at her earlier cleary he didnt like her
near cedar
Or knew not at all
minor ore
Joshu heads be like "Joshu didn't know her so it's okay to sexually assault her"
near cedar
Since he was like 3 when she went to prison
hard meteor
joshuphobes making leaps and logic to defend child murders
ebon rampart
He was trying to get her the fuck out of the house by doing the most disgusting thing he could think of
tepid nebula
^
minor ore
bruh
near cedar
Manz was tryin to make her leave
minor ore
defending sexual assault be like
I'm not defending Kaato btw she's a bitch in her own right
ebon rampart
And guess what it actuall worked, she managed to leave
inland oyster
I don’t like you. I’m going to fondle your abs to leave my house.
ebon rampart
Joshu chads stay winning
tepid nebula
He ain’t fondle nothing lmfao
minor ore
idk how to explain this to you
hard meteor
there was no fondling?,it was a screw and a creepy insult
near cedar
Did Norisuke mention she was a convicted fellon ?@ebon rampart i can't remember
inland oyster
I don’t like you. I’m going to take off your shirt so I can see your tits to leave my house.
minor ore
I think Joshu could get redeemed but he's gotta do some other stuff
ebon rampart
Im pretty sure he didnt tell joshu
minor ore
he's not there yet for me
tepid nebula
No one is defending what he did but...
ebon rampart
Lol ‘he’s not there yet’
minor ore
he saved Yasuho which is epic
hard meteor
"i dont like you,youre making my dad and my sisters uncomfortable so im gonna creep you out to leave" literally all it was
minor ore
was that made by hamon beat?
inland oyster
He literally tried to smash Josuke’s head in with a brick but alright
ebon rampart
minor ore
@ebon rampart did hamon beat make that?
inland oyster
Yes
tepid nebula
Chapter 1? He’s been a completely different character since then tho
inland oyster
It’s his style
minor ore
jesus
ebon rampart
He’s right lmao
inland oyster
The examples being used are from previous chapters what’s your point
minor ore
hard meteor
tsurugi set josuke up to be killed by yotusyu,daiya nearly assaulted him but coincidentally no one brings that up
ebon rampart
Even in the recent chapters he’s still doing good
hard meteor
its only ever joshu scapegoating
night moon
the hole in his chest was the part of him that he turned into the spin thing lol