jojolion

[coral moss]

actually the whole scr arc was iffy

[astral cargo]

^

[cinder fern]

everyone gangstar until Virtuous Pope starts playing

[alpine gyro]

I'd argue that part 5's art and animation improved near the ending

[coral moss]

oh they were definitely saving for after ger

but i think that scr had much less gravitas and presence than in the manga

plus it didn't even fucking have shadows half the time

[minor ore]

The animation in white album arc was amazing

[astral cargo]

Also this discussion should prolly go in #jojo-overall-discussion bc we haven’t talked JJL in a hot minute

[coral moss]

cool chapter

i liked the callbacks

[minor ore]

People who dislike jobin are dumbos

I said it

[alpine gyro]

I am just impatient to see how the fights go

Jobin is rad who doesn't like Jobin?

[coral moss]

i think people want more obvious good and evil characters

i might have been mad that he isn't shaping up to be the main villain

but i like tooru/hd

[minor ore]

Tooru seems like he is straight up evil

[astral cargo]

people who can’t appreciate characters whose morality does not align with their own

[alpine gyro]

Rock people aren't exactly EVIL

[coral moss]

ill wait and see about tooru

[alpine gyro]

just don't have a real sense of morality

[minor ore]

Yeah but as of now he just seems evil

[coral moss]

he hasnt done too much yet as himself

[fallow nexus]

He's eaten a burger

[minor ore]

And not saved yashuo

[alpine gyro]

and flirted with Yashuo

[astral cargo]

So many people don’t realize that liking a fictional character does not mean you agree with their actions

it just means you are entertained by them

[coral moss]

yeah i like a lot of characters that are also shitty people

[minor ore]

Welp i wish aot fans understood that

[alpine gyro]

I love Stroheim

[coral moss]

e.g. damo

[astral cargo]

I WAS THINKING AOT AND WATCHMEN LMAO

[alpine gyro]

Stroheim is a literal nazi but one of my favourites

[cinder fern]

i hate Tooru CGKKGFJGKFJFK

[coral moss]

i hope they lean into the parallels between gappy and tooru

[alpine gyro]

I love Tooru but I also think he's hot so I'm biased

[fallow nexus]

I want a chapter of Tooru getting ora'd

[cinder fern]

60 page ORA

[minor ore]

I hate tooru,he's awesome

[alpine gyro]

I don't hate Tooru at all

[minor ore]

Look at that ass tho

[coral moss]

its kinda weird to hate any fictional character tbh

unless they just arent interesting at all

[cinder fern]

???

[alpine gyro]

I harbour no resentment or anger towards him. Unlike other villains.

[cinder fern]

Thats an odd claim, Andu

[minor ore]

Hating on yo yo ma is justified

[alpine gyro]

Actually, Kira is another example. I relate to Kira a lot.

[coral moss]

nah im fine with yo yo ma

[alpine gyro]

Yo Yo Ma was cool

fight me

[minor ore]

Yo yo ma fans smh

[cinder fern]

Yo Yo Ma underrated

[alpine gyro]

Who just posted Tooru ass in my chat

[minor ore]

Me

[alpine gyro]

Nice. Keep it up.

[minor ore]

And i'll do it again

[coral moss]

whenever people talk smack on part 6, it's always yo yo ma, dragon's dream, or borhap

those fights are super alright

[alpine gyro]

Hand over Tooru cock n' ball pics

[cinder fern]

Dragon’s Dream’ll benefit so much from animation

[alpine gyro]

I loved Yo Yo Ma, Dragon's Dream, and Bohemian Rhapsody

[simple kraken]

Most people don't understand dragon's dream because of feng shui right

[alpine gyro]

Especially Dragon's Dream

Dragon's Dream was so fucking cool

[astral cargo]

Dragon’s Dream is a good stand concept, and Kenzou is a good villain. The main issue in High Security Arc is the pacing

[coral moss]

dragon's dream is a completely independent stand

[kind owl]

@coral moss, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[coral moss]

except uh oh it's too confusing

better complain about the entire part

[fallow nexus]

I like how neutral it is

[alpine gyro]

I like overly complicated stands

[alpine gyro]

I LOVE how it basically rats out it's own user

[cinder fern]

people hate bohemian rhapsody for the dumb solution but I LOVE HOW EASY THE SOLUTION IS

[coral moss]

i dont like that it brought the mickey quote

[alpine gyro]

Why does he have his own name tatooed on his ass

[coral moss]

thats one of the jojo funny moments(tm) thats super overused

[cinder fern]

its The Sun of part 6

[minor ore]

Its his property

[astral cargo]

Uh oh, I’m white and don’t understand Feng Shui even after Anasui’s explanation. Bad arc 0/10

[alpine gyro]

I thought that went without saying?

[coral moss]

some people's asses arent owned by them

[alpine gyro]

I understood what it meant even if I didn't fully understand Feng Shui

[simple kraken]

tooru is lowkey attractive

[cinder fern]

Uh oh, I’m white and don’t understand Feng Shui even after Anasui’s explanation. Bad arc 0/10

im white and this

[alpine gyro]

Just be on the good side of the arrow

easy

[coral moss]

just look up feng shui

[minor ore]

Rai's ass is owned by the jojolion readers

[coral moss]

you dont need to know anything about it

[alpine gyro]

@minor ore I fucking wish.

[coral moss]

i know these dudes have never read the dissertations about hxh

[minor ore]

Tooru is highkey attractive

[alpine gyro]

@simple kraken LOWKEY ATTRACTIVE? Homie's looking like a fucking power bottom snack

[simple kraken]

So he's perfect main villain material

[ornate orbit]

No

[simple kraken]

yes

[ornate orbit]

Yes

[coral moss]

valentine wasnt attractive until a good way through the part

[simple kraken]

all main villains are attractive it's a rule

[minor ore]

So is tooru more attractive than valentine? Hmmm

[alpine gyro]

yes

[cinder fern]

Kars isnt attractive

😌

[coral moss]

ok

[minor ore]

He is

[alpine gyro]

Valentine is handsome but certainly not my taste

[minor ore]

kars sucks but you can’t say he isn’t a stud

[cinder fern]

hes kinda uggy, that Kars

[coral moss]

the tongue thing could have been attractive to someone

[minor ore]

like cmon

[coral moss]

he is objectively chadded

[alpine gyro]

Aight listen, ima rank these fuckers

[simple kraken]

most of the jojo villains are objectively attractive

[coral moss]

kira top 3 ez

[simple kraken]

Kira isn't supposed to be but he is

[coral moss]

watermelon kira is probably lower

[minor ore]

Except shigechi.
Shigechi's beauty transcends rankings

[cinder fern]

Valentine is the most attractive villain

[coral moss]

shigechi is not a villain

i will not have you blaspheming

[cinder fern]

Pucci looks underrated

[ornate orbit]

Poop tho

[minor ore]

Puuci is beautiful

[coral moss]

pucci's star hair thing is kinda weird

[fallow nexus]

Fat Valentine is thick

[ornate orbit]

Pucci is part 6 tho

[coral moss]

plus his original appearance was terrifying

[simple kraken]

weird hair? In MY jojo?

[ornate orbit]

[coral moss]

lookit this dude

[simple kraken]

lookin like piccolo

[alpine gyro]

Tooru > Doppio > Jobin > Diego > Kars > Pucci > Diavolo > Valentine > DIO > Dio Brando > Kira

[minor ore]

Thats a huge ass head bruh

[coral moss]

he could fit 20 prime numbers on that head

[fallow nexus]

Balding Pucci

[minor ore]

Doppio=Tooru

[coral moss]

doppio is a child

[alpine gyro]

no u right

[simple kraken]

no he's 33

[alpine gyro]

Doppio = Tooru

[minor ore]

Mmgh

[coral moss]

definitely looks better

[cinder fern]

daddy pucci 😳

[minor ore]

Young norisuke tho

[alpine gyro]

Pucci would never be a daddy

[astral cargo]

My villain ordering: Pucci = Valentine > Kira > Wammu > Dio > Diavolo > Kars

[minor ore]

😳

[alpine gyro]

Pucci is a bottom

[minor ore]

Power*

[coral moss]

haha pucci gay with dio!!!!

[alpine gyro]

No. Just a bottom.

[cinder fern]

Andu i am unhappy

[alpine gyro]

I didn't say with Dio @coral moss

[coral moss]

im cool with him being gay with dio

[cinder fern]

Andu radiates 4chan

[coral moss]

but people reduce his character to that all the time

[alpine gyro]

DIO and Pucci had the least gay relationship in all of Jojo

[coral moss]

the coolest bits were his relationship with weather

[minor ore]

This beautiful rock human

[coral moss]

also 4chan sucks lmao

[alpine gyro]

He do be lookin doe

[astral cargo]

pucci gets reduced to “gay for dio” and “Dio underling” far too often

which causes so many people to overlook the complex morality of his character

[alpine gyro]

Pucci is my favourite villain, only barely beating Valentine

[astral cargo]

^

[coral moss]

his backstory is way more compelling than most of the villains

not to mention the shit that he does during the part

[alpine gyro]

Valentine, Pucci, and Kira are the best villains imo

[simple kraken]

Yep

[minor ore]

But what about my boi D I O

[simple kraken]

he's meh

[alpine gyro]

DIO is meh

[coral moss]

dio is just there

[alpine gyro]

Fun but meh

[minor ore]

I like how fucking evil he is

[astral cargo]

Dio is pretty mid

[coral moss]

dio brando might be a better character than DIO

[simple kraken]

he's iconic but his character is mostly just "look at me I'm so evil"

[alpine gyro]

DIO is fun, but not as like good as some others

[minor ore]

Thats why i live dio

[cinder fern]

yeah Val Pucci Kira

[alpine gyro]

still better than fucking Diavolo

[astral cargo]

He really only becomes an interesting character if you fill in the blanks

[coral moss]

i wish they talked more about how he didnt want to become like his father

[fallow nexus]

Part 6 Dio is cool

[kind owl]

@fallow nexus, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

[minor ore]

P6 dio is interesting

[cinder fern]

Diavolo >>>> Dio still

[coral moss]

that bit with him drinking in part 1 was one of the better parts about dio

[minor ore]

Nahhh

[coral moss]

yeah part 6 was good

[alpine gyro]

Nah homir

[coral moss]

and the philosophical parts in part 3

[alpine gyro]

Diavolo is the worst villain

[minor ore]

Dio>Diavolo

[astral cargo]

Part 6 Dio is cool because it shows a new side to his character; what he’s like around the people he sees as equal

[minor ore]

Kars is the worst to me

[cinder fern]

Dio Brando is good

[coral moss]

kars is probably the worst

[alpine gyro]

Kars was pretty cool

[cinder fern]

Kars is definitely the worst

[coral moss]

idk how you can put diavolo&doppio below kars

[simple kraken]

I can't remember a single defining kars character traight

[astral cargo]

Kars and Diavolo are both pretty low

[alpine gyro]

Kars was > DIO/Dio Brando

[simple kraken]

Trait

[alpine gyro]

Diego though

[coral moss]

he killed his whole clan

[alpine gyro]

Diego is top tier

[simple kraken]

so basically he's evil

[coral moss]

diego as a side villain > most of the main villains

[cinder fern]

Dio Brando > Diavolo > DIO > Kars

[coral moss]

reasonable

[minor ore]

idk man..

Doppio makes Diavolo a far more compelling antagonist

[cinder fern]

^

[coral moss]

although diavolo would probably be the best of the ehh villains

[alpine gyro]

Doppio >>>>>>>>>>>> Diavolo

[coral moss]

the interesting part about him is that they're the same dude

either of them alone would not be cool

[minor ore]

diavolo = doppio

cmon now son

[coral moss]

but doppio got mad underused

[astral cargo]

Doppio is basically irrelevant to the grand scheme of the plot

[coral moss]

kinda makes me mad

[cinder fern]

meanwhile Jojolion is EVERYONE IS THE MAIN VILLAIN

[kind owl]

@cinder fern, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 10 !

[alpine gyro]

I'd love if Doppio was just schizophrenic and there was no Diavolo

but mire interesting

[astral cargo]

He doesn’t tie into the themes at all

Doppio is wasted potential

[simple kraken]

Everyone being the main villain is cool honestly

[alpine gyro]

The bossu doesn't even know that he is the bossu? Cool.

[fallow nexus]

Les Feuilles is the main villain

[astral cargo]

and I do not like Diavolo

[coral moss]

i think the idea of ignoring one's own nature/fate ties in pretty well

[minor ore]

The rock dog is the villain

[coral moss]

but yeah doppio could have been much better

[astral cargo]

Most of the complexity was removed from his character when the two split

[simple kraken]

Diavolo ties in to the themes a lot but nothing more

[coral moss]

doppio not eventually realizing that he was the boss was lame

he just dies

[minor ore]

Bruh

[astral cargo]

Diavolo unsubtly ties into the themes of VA

[winter ridge]

ok is it just me or was the dr woo fight really cool until josuke just comes in and is like "c e m e n t" the end

[mental quartz]

Les Feuilles reveals that a women left a rock baby on their leaves

Rock Baby big bad

[astral cargo]

I do not like the way P5 handles its theme

[coral moss]

sleeping slaves is slept on tho

[simple kraken]

I forgot how woo ended but I liked the fight and Woo himself

[astral cargo]

it’s very unsubtle

Sleeping Slaves is a joke of an arc

[gentle venture]

wtf this chat became part 5

[coral moss]

oh it's not great

but definitely not the worst theming in part 5

[simple kraken]

This chat is just whatever now

[minor ore]

Fuck jojolion

[cinder fern]

what

Sleeping Slaves is awesome

[simple kraken]

Eh

[mental quartz]

This is now a Jorge Joestar chat

[gentle venture]

damn i guess the chapter is just too bizarre for jojo fans

[astral cargo]

Sleeping Slaves literally just slaps the themes of the part across the reader/viewer’s face

[winter ridge]

it was ok

best part was mistas monologue about eating narancia

[astral cargo]

It’s so fucking unsubtle

[minor ore]

Sleeping slaves displays the the themes of p5 perfectly

[simple kraken]

I'm inclined to agree with shrimp here

[winter ridge]

same

[astral cargo]

Too perfectly

[cinder fern]

if youre talking purely analytical maybe its not the best but its AWESOME

[winter ridge]

ok but im still so disappointed in the way the Dr Woo fight ended

i mean it didnt have to be epic

[coral moss]

what even happened

it's been a bit since i read that

[winter ridge]

josuke comes in and traps his dust inside of cement bubbles

the end

[coral moss]

oh right

[mental quartz]

It cemented the fact that fate is set in stone, it's about how you choose to accept that fate

[winter ridge]

yasuho and mitsuba did nothing really

except for the tape

but that was temporary

[simple kraken]

It was an introduction to mitsuba's stand

[mental quartz]

But thats for part 5 chat

[coral moss]

the timelines have merged

oh no so many people are going to assume the ireneverse is part 8

[mental quartz]

Yasuho and Mitsuba tried their best

[winter ridge]

:')

[simple kraken]

Is mitsuba's stand combat oriented?

[coral moss]

vectors can be busted in the right hands

look at accelerator

[astral cargo]

What’s a good way to let your audience know that the main theme of the part had to do with fate being determined? I know! Make an arc post the final fight featuring a stand that is a literal rock that can predict fate to make sure the audience understands fate is set in stone!

[mental quartz]

Yeah it's pretty combat efficient

[astral cargo]

It’s a joke

It’s so unsubtle

“Slaves to fate”

literally just spelling shit out

[coral moss]

part 6 did a lot of the same things, but better

[mental quartz]

My god, keep it in part 5 chat

[fallow nexus]

Why is Awaking III Leaves so cool

[gentle venture]

oh the chat became part 8 again

[mental quartz]

The design is awesome and the ability can do some cool ass shit

[kind owl]

@mental quartz, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[fallow nexus]

I loved it when Mitsuba used the arrows to spill coffee

[analog skiff]

I have to be honest

[gentle venture]

i loved it when she used it to put back her fingers on and just was like ok

[analog skiff]

I keep on forgetting A3L exists

[coral moss]

it's been a while

[fallow nexus]

Reverse yeetus

[analog skiff]

I remember California King Bed better

I really didn't enjoy the doctor Wu fight lol

That's probably why

[fallow nexus]

California King Bed was interesting

Uwu fluffy stand that steals your memories

[coral moss]

first interaction with the higashikatas

[analog skiff]

I really need to reread CKB, Beetle Tendency, and Blue Hawaii

I remember basically nothing from those arcs

[fallow nexus]

Gore warning

[simple kraken]

WARNING: GORE

[cinder fern]

Dude i adore how Blue Hawaii starts

just

it takes its sweet time showing the kid turning around and

[simple kraken]

Chimkin

[cinder fern]

eugh so well done

[analog skiff]

Then I should reread it

It's funny how much opinions can differ

[cinder fern]

like i didnt know about it going into it and it was like

[analog skiff]

I remember reading yesterday from meti that he found post-damo boring until Doctor Wu and that's like my exact opposite

[cinder fern]

a huge “excuse me what the fuck” moment

[fallow nexus]

Also, S&W with a shovel

[coral moss]

blue hawaii was unfortunate because jojolion already had so many pursuit arcs

[analog skiff]

I love every post damo fight except doctor Wu (and technically blue heaii because I really need to reread it)

[coral moss]

then you get blue hawaii and mamezuku back to back

[simple kraken]

Post damo has milagro man, ozone baby, blue hawaii (which I enjoyed) and brainstorm which was cool as well

[analog skiff]

I also don't really get why some people think brain storm is boriny

[cinder fern]

milagro man is awesome

[analog skiff]

Milagro man is good as hell

[cinder fern]

i love the storybook-vibe stands

[minor ore]

Bruh only 1 new chapter and ya'll will keep the JoJolion channel alive for the next 15 days

damn

[fallow nexus]

Hell yeah Joshu arc

[kind owl]

@fallow nexus, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

[simple kraken]

Yes.

[coral moss]

brain storm just isn't that distinguishable from a lot of abilities

it shoots out things that melt skin

[simple kraken]

we get an influx of people reading and then it drops off and then the cycle starts over again

[analog skiff]

Stand is kinda boring but fight is very cool

[kind owl]

@analog skiff, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 19 !

[coral moss]

it's cool that it's technically an organism

[simple kraken]

which other ability does that I'm genuinely curious

[analog skiff]

???

[coral moss]

oh wait no it isn't

it's just a stand

[analog skiff]

And also no it's just a bit like purple haze and SchottKey

2

As all three just are killy viruses

[coral moss]

man the aphex twins were jobbers

[cinder fern]

i love SchottKey1 tho

[coral moss]

they lost to josefumi

[cinder fern]

cool idea

[analog skiff]

Aphex twins did amazing with h their stands tho

Really crap stands

At Josefumi yes they jobbed

[coral moss]

josefumi was literally falling apart and there were two of them

[simple kraken]

The aphex twins went through a training arc after losing to josefumi

[gilded stream]

Araki giving out D4C and at the same time giving a dude Schott Key No. 1

[analog skiff]

When are we getting the JoJo tournament arc

[simple kraken]

That's part 9

[coral moss]

jojo battle royale

[gilded stream]

what’s it gonna be

[kind owl]

@coral moss, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

[gilded stream]

you can’t have it both ways

[analog skiff]

Really unpopular opinion time: Doctor Wu is easily the worst fight in JJL for me

[simple kraken]

It just takes all the stand users and puts them in a tournament

[coral moss]

imagine getting the boiling water stand and then coming across pucci

[simple kraken]

Oh yeah that's unpopular for sure

[gilded stream]

wait that’s unpopular?

[coral moss]

idk what the worst fight in jojolion is

[gilded stream]

sleeper arc

[analog skiff]

No

Most people love it

[coral moss]

maybe the first ojiro fight?

[gilded stream]

ojiro makes the best fights out of his ass stand

[simple kraken]

First ojiro fight was cool and weird

I liked it

[coral moss]

yeah you have to root for ojiro

[analog skiff]

And like I see a ton of people who seem that doctor Wu got them back into JoJolion after blue Hawaii and brain storm and so and I don't understand at all

Ojiro has amazing fights yeah

[coral moss]

oh that doesn't really make sense

[gilded stream]

I know Blue Hawaii is a controversial fight

because they expected more from Highway Star 2

[coral moss]

the introduction of mamezuku was cool, even if his first fight was ehh

[analog skiff]

🎵 I like Brain Storm but I dislike Doc Wu 🎵

[simple kraken]

Ozone baby was great though

[analog skiff]

Repeat like 20 times

Yes ozone baby is great

Brain storm is an amazing Jobro introduction lol

[coral moss]

i had no idea what was happening in that fight at points

maybe i need to reread

[simple kraken]

burning forest

pressure

Lego white house

Bubbles

[analog skiff]

He has a weak ass stand and is infected for 90% of the fight yet is the mvp of the fight

[minor ore]

Aigt who pinged

[analog skiff]

That's why I like brain storm so much

[coral moss]

also the part where mamezuku gets killshotted except nope hes fine

[analog skiff]

Rai is awesome

[simple kraken]

And Poor Tom got killed by the calamity

Someone pinged the jjl new chapters role several hours ago

It wasn't even for anything important

[analog skiff]

Also yeah poor tom was def killed by HD

[upper knoll]

https://discordapp.com/channels/298146426926530561/379742720903610368/733852335905964060 he just dont want a virus.....

[simple kraken]

them gosh darned viruses

[analog skiff]

I have a lot of unpopular opinions about JJL tbh

Vitamin C is an eh fight and Vitamin C flashback is one of the most confusing fights in the series

[coral moss]

ok thats definitely unpopular

[gilded stream]

Vitamin C is a lot to take in yeah

[analog skiff]

I mean I think like

[gilded stream]

but you should get other vitamins as well

[upper knoll]

That arc is the highlight of jojolion

[minor ore]

Why would he ping the role omfg

[simple kraken]

Vitamin c is a terrifying stand

[analog skiff]

Vitamin C: Awesome Stand, Awesome interactions, Awesome non-fight scenes, boring fight

[upper knoll]

he dont want a virus okay

[analog skiff]

Maybe it's just not for me

[minor ore]

What fucking virus

[gilded stream]

my guy slicing dudes up with money

[coral moss]

hato poking his head was the highlight of her existence

[gilded stream]

then gets his head busted off

[upper knoll]

Yeah I dont know either

[gilded stream]

if that’s not a peak then I don’t know what is

[simple kraken]

Someone just walks right in, sits on your couch, says he's had sex with your daughter, and then fucking melts everyone

[coral moss]

what a god

[simple kraken]

cuts em up with 1000 yen bills

[analog skiff]

I mean it's probably just the fight with the least amount of JoJo moments in the part for me

[coral moss]

he's also clearly much, much older than her

[simple kraken]

flushes joshu down the sink as well

[upper knoll]

Also I mean the flashback part as the highlight of jojolion

[analog skiff]

And I think what I often like about fights most are JoJo moments

[upper knoll]

the vitamin C fight in present wasnt as good

[analog skiff]

And vitamin C flashback is way better but super confusing

[coral moss]

the flashback is probably the most kino part of jjl

[analog skiff]

How did karera get the phone

How did karera survive

[upper knoll]

its one of the best parts

[analog skiff]

How did big SHA get on karera

Unless they can resize mid summon

[upper knoll]

Its up there with p4's josuke vs kira and part 5's train

[analog skiff]

Ehh

[simple kraken]

kira has complete control of sheet heart attack though

[analog skiff]

There's too much unexplained

For me to give it that

[simple kraken]

Whatever size, whatever amount

[coral moss]

these are all jojo moments

[analog skiff]

Fine but how the hell did Karera survive and how did she find the phone

[simple kraken]

I can't remember what you're talking about with karera

[coral moss]

didnt josefumi call her

[analog skiff]

She finds the phone which was thrown in the water pretty far away from her which is implied to have SHA on it, then 3 SHAs blow up on her body at once at full size

Yet she's okay in present day

[gilded stream]

hair

[analog skiff]

How the hell do you use hair to beat that

[gilded stream]

the I am a rock guy survives at a face explosion from SHA

[analog skiff]

Hmm

[gilded stream]

it just works probably

[analog skiff]

It's just a bit weird and that's why I kinda dislike the fight

[coral moss]

kira can control the blast

[analog skiff]

It's a bit like if Koichi Vs. Josuke ended instead of with act 3 + jotaro but instead Josuke finding Koichi's missing sock which he planted heat on

[coral moss]

yeah josefumi just calls karera

oh no wait two pages later it says she found his phone

[analog skiff]

How the hell did he call her with a wet phone wuh

[coral moss]

uhh

shit

[gilded stream]

phones have water resistance

[analog skiff]

Anyways gtg now

9%

My own phone is going to blow up soon

[gilded stream]

good morning

[simple kraken]

Yeah phones do have water resistance but not much

Wait

They have water resistance in more recent years

Vitamin C and killer queen was made over 5 years after the beginning of jjl

So it's probably just an inconsistency in technology at the time

[burnt quiver]

put yasuho in rice

im now going to check to see how many times this joke has been made

[simple kraken]

0 it's the first time I've heard it

[burnt quiver]

damn i expected more than that

[simple kraken]

Oh

[burnt quiver]

8 month difference tho im in the clear

[minor ore]

Okay so higashikata's r part rock hoomans

[burnt pagoda]

The wonder of u

Twu

[simple kraken]

I do not like the "U"

[burnt pagoda]

T.wu

[simple kraken]

Why is it like that

Why was it translated that way

[burnt pagoda]

lazy

?

space

?

habbit

?

[simple kraken]

No I'm talking about the actual translation on mangadex

Was it like that in Japanese as well idk

[burnt pagoda]

copy right Evasion

araki thinking ahead

[simple kraken]

wow araki finally caring about copyright

[burnt pagoda]

so many callbacks to previos parts doe

[simple kraken]

Yep

So many people are gonna think Hermes is a rock human now

And enya

[faint gust]

Finally got to read the last chapter too
so glad we got the name of the villain stand

also lmao that part was to compare homo sapiens

[burnt pagoda]

ño

and deff not enyaba

[faint gust]

besides Enya died like a normal human, no one would think that

unless they're crazy enough to say ARAKI FORGOT DURR

[burnt pagoda]

she cares 4 her son

[lost slate]

oh yeah

[astral widget]

where chapter

[faint gust]

mangadex

[astral widget]

poggers

[faint gust]

or other places if you're cheap like me

[astral widget]

holy shit holy shit

that was epic

[daring bear]

Just read the new chapter bruh

Gotta take it in for a lil bit

[astral widget]

bruh Tooru assss

[merry kernel]

Given the recent naming scheme, I speculate the Next stand/rock creature's name is Witch Doctor...or Ooh Eee Ooh Ah Ah Ting Tang Walla Balla Bing Bang

[minor ore]

Hm

[astral widget]

unless no more rock creature

[minor ore]

my unfinished ms paint jobin

[astral widget]

joker

[minor ore]

Nice

[wicked mist]

hi

when is the next chapter?

oh i check pin

thankss

[minor ore]

it was tsurugi who killed him? Why ?

hes really dead? : /

[upper knoll]

youll see!

[astral widget]

read

[upper knoll]

read futher

[lost slate]

Or is he??

[astral widget]

we dont know either

[lost slate]

This is the turning point in JJL

[hallow sigil]

Crack pot theory: what if we're actually just seeing an illusion from Tsurugi's paper moon king? 👀

[lost slate]

where everything from here is consistently good

[upper knoll]

big if true

[hallow sigil]

It's been good lately already :p.

[minor ore]

Oh my fucking god how is this channel not dead

[astral widget]

the whole world is paper moon king feeding the last person on earth's delusions

[upper knoll]

what did he mean by this

[hallow sigil]

We've gotten such gems "I can even enter through your urethra", and now tiny baby's riding wasps and taking over their queen

And can't forget "man of the jacuzzi"

[upper knoll]

why is this channel supposed to be dead

[lost slate]

But that's the thing

[minor ore]

The chapter came out hours ago and there was a big conversation

[lost slate]

Is the Jacuzzi land or the sea?

[hallow sigil]

Exactly.

[astral widget]

not everyone read the chapter the exact moment it came out

[upper knoll]

yeah and
we can have other conversations too

[lost slate]

jjl teaches philosophy

[minor ore]

k

[lost slate]

and ethics

[astral widget]

it's not like this channel is dead even without the new chapter releasing

[minor ore]

Arent jacuzzi’s the hot tub things

[hallow sigil]

I'm still unsure that HD and Tooru are the same person.

[lost slate]

'is it a good idea to date a rock human?'

[hallow sigil]

I won't doubt that the HD and Tooru's stand seemed to be merged.

But I think the HD was at least at some point a separate person.

All the talk of wasps and parasitism.

[astral widget]

fungus moment

[minor ore]

baby rock

[hallow sigil]

There are many varieties of brain jacking wasps

Similar to cordyceps fungi in overall behavior

Except they e.g. make cockroaches walk into some safe place and lay eggs inside them which hatch and then eat the victim

See: the Jewel Wasp

[astral widget]

syence

[hallow sigil]

It's weird how the HD keeps switching between a human face and the stand face.

[astral widget]

spooky

[hallow sigil]

Maybe he is The Wonder of U which is Tooru's stand

but this flow/calamity stand is the HDs own stand

A stand user who can control other stand users would be interesting.

[astral widget]

maybe he fused with just Toorus stand

[hallow sigil]

My theory is basically: Tooru's stand is The Wonder of U and it can fuse with/let Tooru control a person.

HD's stand is some as of yet un-named calamity inducing stand.

[lost slate]

I used to think that

Now I'm not so sure

[hallow sigil]

But consider this

[royal gale]

do not ruin it for him tho

[hallow sigil]

What happens if HD gets killed?

Where is Tooru right now?

[minor ore]

On the wiki it says that Tooru’s stand is used for him and Akefu

[hallow sigil]

What if Tooru switches control to... Jobin?

[royal gale]

which ch are you at rn @hallow sigil

[hallow sigil]

The most recent one.

[lost slate]

tooru is about to fight at the higashikata estate against jobin

[minor ore]

idk if it’s control

[royal gale]

makes sense yes

[hallow sigil]

Right but what if he doesn't right Jobin but rather loses the HD as his puppet, and instead takes over Jobin?

[royal gale]

wait, i'm confused now

[hallow sigil]

Then we get Jobin as final enemy

But it's actually Tooru

[royal gale]

isn't the "head doctor" just

tooru's stand?

[minor ore]

Yeah

[hallow sigil]

I don't think he is, that's my point.

[minor ore]

yrp

[royal gale]

i mean

[hallow sigil]

I think he was a real separate person.

[royal gale]

he is

[minor ore]

But people r assuming that the stand can take over bodies lmao

[royal gale]

but

[hallow sigil]

We've never seen a stand have a human appearance.

And having two abilities (disguising as a person who acts and talks as their own person)

[minor ore]

It doesn’t have a human appearance

[hallow sigil]

and inducing calamity, would be weird

[royal gale]

haven't we?

[hallow sigil]

But it does repeatedly.

It switches faces.

Over and over.

[minor ore]

It has the body of a human but the face is more machine like

[hallow sigil]

Reread the most recent chapter.

[astral widget]

literally anything is possible at this point

[minor ore]

Oingo's stand?

[royal gale]

i mean

[hallow sigil]

His face switches between HDs face and the stand face

And we've seen the Stand be completely Standish in the stairwell

And

[astral widget]

my bet is that's its neither of whatever you guys are talking about

[hallow sigil]

HD was younger in the flashback

[royal gale]

yellow temperance as well and moody blues if you want to go down that path @minor ore

[minor ore]

Yeah

my bet is that's its neither of whatever you guys are talking about
@astral widget same lmao

[royal gale]

anyways i don't think its that complicated

the stand takes a human form to provoke people to pursue it

activating its ability

[faint gust]

I was hoping Akefu was the user but everything so far leads to Tooru being it

[royal gale]

why would it take over people's bodies i don't get it

[hallow sigil]

I think that is just the HDs own stand.

[royal gale]

is there something i missed?

[hallow sigil]

My theory is that at some point the HD was a separate (rock) person.

But then Tooru showed up in Morioh

[royal gale]

if i'm wrong please correct me i'm just giving my perspective here

[hallow sigil]

And brainjacked HD.

[minor ore]

Yeah akefu could be a rock human

[hallow sigil]

Tooru's stand ability = take over other people
HD's stand ability = pursuit/calamity

[minor ore]

He has rock insects and stuff

[royal gale]

but

[hallow sigil]

HD talks differently

[astral widget]

araki is really just playing 4D murder mystery here

[hallow sigil]

We've seen him be younger and now older

[royal gale]

that is absurdly overpowered isn't it

taking over someone AND their stand

[hallow sigil]

Final boss stands in Jojo parts usually are

But it seems the limitation is just one person at a time

[royal gale]

yes but look at the man he chose

[upper knoll]

This one isnt timebased

[hallow sigil]

The head of a hospital?

[upper knoll]

Is the formula ending

[hallow sigil]

Seems like a great choice if you want to do Rokakaka shit and know there's a group operating via the hospital

[minor ore]

D4C wasn’t time based

But i don’t think it’s an ability to control other people

[hallow sigil]

It's just a theory

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 18 !

[minor ore]

It’s a good theory

[hallow sigil]

But all the wasp talk got me thinking

[royal gale]

idk man, why make such a big plot twist and then take it all back

[minor ore]

Yeah

[hallow sigil]

And we now know Tooru literally grew up in a wasp's nest lol

[royal gale]

yes

[hallow sigil]

So basically:

HD and Rokakaka gang existed in Morioh already

Tooru shows up and takes over by hijacking the head doctor/leader

Then tries to seize the pear orchard killing Rai's dad

etc

[royal gale]

i mean tooru was alive long before right

so he was just somewhere else?

[hallow sigil]

The sequence we see is kinda ambiguous but it looks like we watched him being born.

And then walking back to Morioh

He could be much older idk

[faint gust]

how old is Tooru as of now again?

[royal gale]

very

[minor ore]

like 100 years or more

[hallow sigil]

I don't think we know that.

The point is how long has he been in human form since leaving the wasp nest

[minor ore]

idk

[faint gust]

I wanted to know how much time passed since he was born considering whether or not he did or wasn't even outside the wasp nest to kill Rai's father

though I imagine it's intended to make you think he did

[hallow sigil]

He can't be that old:

That's looks like a modern Morioh in the background

[royal gale]

if the head doctor was a human before tooru

[hallow sigil]

Here's him showing up naked to... a modern Morioh

Er

[faint gust]

I wish we could also have an estimate for how long ago was Rai's father's funeral cause he seems pretty young there

[minor ore]

The earthquake happened somewhere in the 1950s right?

[hallow sigil]

@faint gust I'm guessing 20-30 years or so?

Something vaguely like that.

But Tooru seems to be young

[upper knoll]

the earthquake was in 2011 no?

The one that made the wall-eyes

[minor ore]

hmmm

3 days before gappy existed

[hallow sigil]

Also

[royal gale]

morioh isnt that small of a city so we can't just assume everyone knows eachother but i think its pretty weird not a single person recognized somenone with a role as important as "head doctor" in the funeral

[hallow sigil]

Head Doctor is clearly younger here

[faint gust]

slightly off topic but have you noticed how many Part 8 characters like balls and spikes in their hair and/or clothing

[minor ore]

I guess I wasn’t paying enough attention

[hallow sigil]

Or fucking sleeve teddy bears

[royal gale]

but...he is still aways facing away

is that something he normally did

and tooru just took advantage

[hallow sigil]

I wouldn't read into that too much

Though again I think the HD was already a (rock?) human beforehand

And already had the stand

it was used (as was the rock insect) to kill Rai's dad.

Though by that point Tooru might have already taken him over idk

[royal gale]

the first thing that made me realize that was the head doctor was the fact he's facing away

[hallow sigil]

Again just a theory. It will probably be something completely different.

For me it's his bubble wrap hair

[faint gust]

Here's my stupidest theory

[royal gale]

go ahead

[minor ore]

I think Araki forgot it was a human and then made it a stand

[faint gust]

The user of the pursuing stand is the Head Doctor himself and Tooru is just using another stand we don't know of to control him

[hallow sigil]

...that's literally exactly what I just suggested

[faint gust]

I kinda missed that

[hallow sigil]

Anyhow yeah, parasitic wasp theme

[royal gale]

hey remember when the whole "Tooru - Satoru is reverse Diavolo - Doppio" theory was a thing?

[minor ore]

what other stand is he using

[royal gale]

tooru's stand

[hallow sigil]

The HD thing doesn't say "my stand is The Wonder of U"

[minor ore]

ah

[faint gust]

huh

[hallow sigil]

He says I am "The Wonder of U"

And here's another point

[minor ore]

Well yea because he’s a a stand

[hallow sigil]

If he's just a stand, why does he go "inactive" and stand in a room facing the wall when Tooru's not "linked"?

[royal gale]

yes because he is "The Wonder of U", Tooru's stand

[hallow sigil]

Unless he's a body inhabited by the stand.

[faint gust]

maybe it's a similar deal to Anubis where it's a sort of sentient stand?

[hallow sigil]

Again I don't think the head doctor is just a stand who can take human appearance.

[minor ore]

When does he go inactive?

[hallow sigil]

And "The Wonder of U" doesn't sound like a calamity inducing stand at all

[royal gale]

that would be a fucking power move from Araki
"hey these are two different characters
actually one is just the other one's stand
no i take it back two characters two stands one is controlling another
actually-"

[hallow sigil]

@minor ore would have to find the page

One sec

It's recent

[minor ore]

Like when he’s in the wall for the whole chapter?

[royal gale]

i don't think its sentient since tooru could...feel...things through HD's perspective

also the head doctor does some pretty crazy shit in the higashikata house just when tooru gets closer

[hallow sigil]

https://mangadex.org/chapter/896697/25

Here.

See, the HDs body seems to just be in shutdown mode

[royal gale]

maybe he can control it better depending on the range?

[hallow sigil]

Until Tooru (I theorize) remotely takes control

[faint gust]

out of all theories I am glad Gappy developing King Crimson isn't a thing to be honest

[hallow sigil]

His body is otherwise just an empty shell

[royal gale]

how would that even work

[hallow sigil]

Well one major problem here would be that the HD isn't physically where Tooru is who seems to be using the calamity/pursuit stand on the family

But it also doesn't make sense that Tooru could use it in two places at once (where he is and where the HD is)

[royal gale]

what is the middle step between gappy and KC²

[faint gust]

The only clues to that that I know of is that everybody in the Higashikata family has King in their stand names, even though Gappy wasn't born in the family
and that there were moments in the story where time was skipped? Apparently???

[royal gale]

access to the time dimension??

woah

[minor ore]

The stand isn’t moving because Josuke already laid a trap

[royal gale]

that would be kinda fun ngl

[hallow sigil]

Anyhow it would be tragic and horrible then if we ended up with Tooru controlling Jobin

[royal gale]

don't mind me just stealing the fabric of time itself

[hallow sigil]

And that's the final battle in some sense

[royal gale]

i still cannot believe Jobin was gone like that

[minor ore]

Sad

[faint gust]

oh yeah I forgot while this shit is happening tsurugi is still fucking dying

[royal gale]

he has to come back somehow

and yasuho

[hallow sigil]

And Jobin

Everyone at the house is dying rn

[minor ore]

HELP ME MY FACE IS DISTORTED

[royal gale]

and norisuke kinda if he isnt already dead

[faint gust]

god

[royal gale]

probably dying too

[hallow sigil]

I really hope there's a takeout and Norisuke isn't dead

[minor ore]

everyone dying except my boi Joshu

[royal gale]

🙏

[faint gust]

Gappy just comes home like YO I GOT LOCACACACACACAS FOR EVERYBODY and they're just bleeding on the floor twitching

[royal gale]

Yasuho on the flood bleading to death and Joshu is there like "want a piece of fruit baby?"

[minor ore]

Yashuo drowning in a toilet

Joshu: “Hey Yashuo, Im finally getting my redemption arc.”

[hallow sigil]

It's also completely contradictory to what we learned like however many dozens of chapters ago

[royal gale]

what have we learned?

[hallow sigil]

Araki just totally rewrote the rock human backstory lol

Again let me find it but before they could reproduce with one another

They didn't reproduce with humans

[royal gale]

i mean

[minor ore]

Tbh the rock humans are kinda sad

[hallow sigil]

At least their pregnancy is easy

The baby is fucking teeny

Does it just like

Fall out

[minor ore]

Actually that makes sense

[royal gale]

saying they can do it to one another doesn't rule out the rock human - human relation

[hallow sigil]

That was also explicitly ruled out though

Before I mean

[minor ore]

Maybe to even it out rock women have small vaginas

[royal gale]

oh then it does rule it out

[royal gale]

that face when her rock pussy so tight your dick doesn't even fit

[hallow sigil]

biologically they cannot have children with humans

[royal gale]

also the way they grow

[hallow sigil]

He literally totally contradicted himself

[royal gale]

every 6 years?

[hallow sigil]

Either he forgot, or decided that sucked and to redo it

It has been like... how many years?

6-7?

[faint gust]

5% of rock humans: where's the body of jesus christ again

[royal gale]

now its 17 years of baby and a whole lot of other shit

[kind owl]

@royal gale, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[minor ore]

Ofc they change their poses it’s jojo

[hallow sigil]

My thought exactly

[minor ore]

What would this manga be without it’s poses

[royal gale]

i mean was there really a backstory?

this new one feels more complete

[hallow sigil]

The rock human lifecycle thing in 99 might be among the weirdest shit in Jojo ever tbh

Araki went full Araki

[minor ore]

Araki’s brain just expanded exponentially

[royal gale]

its covid i'm telling you

too much time alone he's having the bad thoughts oh no

[hallow sigil]

Araki ate a Rokakaka and merged with an insane person

[faint gust]

I was just thinking like wtf a bee bigger than a baby

[hallow sigil]

Explains this and why he forgot the precious explanation of rock people biology

[minor ore]

Baby rocks r born tiny

Bro what if Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure was just a diary of Araki’s

[royal gale]

tiny little baby rock human

[hallow sigil]

That would explain why the mom can hide the pregnancy lol

[minor ore]

Every event was real

[royal gale]

i mean

[hallow sigil]

Okay here's a horrible thought

[royal gale]

no

go ahead.

[faint gust]

Araki lived all of more than 100 years and an alternate universe to witness all of jojo

[hallow sigil]

Assuming the rock women have normal sized vaginas which they would have to in order to mate with humans

[minor ore]

yes

[hallow sigil]

How does the baby get out?

[royal gale]

pores

[hallow sigil]

Do they have to crawl out?

[minor ore]

@hallow sigil it’s like a water slide

[hallow sigil]

A wasp sized baby would have to crawl quite a lot

[royal gale]

just pee the baby out

[hallow sigil]

water slide

[faint gust]

araki's explanation was cool and all but we need to know what rock humans pee and poo out

[minor ore]

You see the baby goes down the tube and the woman doesn’t even have to push it out because the baby just slides into the ground

[royal gale]

they don't poo and pee
reason: idk fucgin uuuh silicon i guess

[hallow sigil]

Do they wear special underwear with a sack to catch the baby in case they give birth without noticing?

[minor ore]

Might die but who fucking cares

[hallow sigil]

Also waste is made from the food eaten...

So presumably their poop would still be carbon based

If they have to eat human food

[minor ore]

You know what will explain everything?

Asscrack

[faint gust]

I was half hoping they shit literal bricks

[hallow sigil]

Silicon based = they shit glass

[royal gale]

that would be awesome

[minor ore]

Everyone has an asscrack except Tooru

Cause fuck tooru

[hallow sigil]

Fuck Tooru

[royal gale]

how did yasuho never notice anything

[faint gust]

Tooru ate the fruit and the asscrack was the equivalent exchange

[hallow sigil]

He got a one lobe ass

[royal gale]

losing the power to poo??

[hallow sigil]

A unibutt

[minor ore]

@faint gust my new head canon

[royal gale]

thats a pretty big exchange

[hallow sigil]

@royal gale Yasuho also dated a guy who wears teddy bears on his jacket

[faint gust]

I mean it was literally explained that even if you want to cure a cut wound it would take something like a part of your brain as the exchange

[hallow sigil]

That's a pretty big yikes

[faint gust]

so there's no clear rule as to why it chooses what to exchange

[hallow sigil]

Anyhow I like the idea that Tooru is a mind controller. We know he's manipulative as fuck, is associated with wasps...

[royal gale]

but what is an asscrack my guy

[minor ore]

You could exchange your penis for new toes

[royal gale]

its the absence of ass

[minor ore]

the asscrack is an asscrack

[royal gale]

what would the rokakaka be taking away

no man its a hole

[minor ore]

THE ASSCRACK

[hallow sigil]

@minor ore and then you end up with 10 penises for toes ("oops equivalent exchange machine borken")

[faint gust]

his cheeks would just merge

[minor ore]

@hallow sigil makes sense

[royal gale]

yes it would just make your ass a smooth ball but that would be ADDING MORE ASS

[faint gust]

they become an actual peach

made of meat

[sturdy fossil]

an asscrack is an asscrack you cant say its only a half

[hallow sigil]

@royal gale has a point here

[faint gust]

or stone

[minor ore]

@royal gale YOU WOULDNT BE ABLE TO SHIT IF YOU DONT HAVE AN ASSCRACK

[hallow sigil]

Maybe he lost both his cheeks?

Would also achieve a flat ass

[minor ore]

end of my theory

[royal gale]

ok thats a tie

[sturdy fossil]

Araki just doesnt draw males with anything that could be lewd

[faint gust]

Broke: What is Tooru's stand ability and motivations
Woke: WHERE IS HIS ASSCRACK

[minor ore]

Wait do rock humans even take shits

[sturdy fossil]

hee also doesnt draw male nipples

[faint gust]

I love Araki's metal pecs

[hallow sigil]

I hope Araki brings back the muscle men style in Pt 9

[minor ore]

If he does I will feel jealous

[royal gale]

i mean what if all rock humans had rock hard nipples that pierced through every piece of clothing imaginable and that was the dead giveaway

[hallow sigil]

That's why they need the rokakaka

To remove their nipples

[royal gale]

yes

[minor ore]

To

[hallow sigil]

Because they could blow their clover

[minor ore]

Get rid

of the nipples

[faint gust]

I honestly hope Part 8 is the final one just cause the man is fucking 60 years old
I don't want him to die before we know why Joel Joestar's stand ability can turn grass into knives

[royal gale]

what if Jorge Joestar was right all along

[minor ore]

wh

Who is joel Joestar

[royal gale]

@faint gust that would actually be pretty sick

[faint gust]

I'm making up the Part 9 protag

[minor ore]

oh ok

[royal gale]

imagine you go for a walk

and decide to have fun stepping on some nice and soft grass

but no no no

JOEL JOESTAR turns that grass into KNIVES

you bleed out and die immediately

[minor ore]

You need to replace Araki immediately

[royal gale]

no why

[minor ore]

This is the greatest idea I have heard today

[hallow sigil]

His only weakness: a lack of grass

[royal gale]

JJBA Part 9 Chapter 2 - everyone fucking dies
reason: too much grass on earth and I'm tired of writing

[faint gust]

Anyone can
just think of the most ridiculous shit and call it a stand ability
bonus points if you asspull a "scientific" explanation for it

[royal gale]

just sharpens the grass to such a degree

[faint gust]

that could be the stand ability in itself
just sharpens any object

[hallow sigil]

^

Though that would be a bit limited it could be neat for a villain

Grab a hot dog

[royal gale]

a stand that can sharpen things so well they become the size of an atom so there is an extra ~3cm of tip that is invisible to the human eye

[hallow sigil]

Slice through a metal wall

[faint gust]

I like limited abilities cause then the user has to be smart about them

[hallow sigil]

Yeah

[royal gale]

but could they sharpen themselves?

[faint gust]

probably not

especially cause grabbing any object and sharpening that would have basically the same effect

[minor ore]

have a condom?
Sharpen it into a knife

[royal gale]

sharp clothing so no one can touch him ever

have a condom?
Sharpen it into a knife
@minor ore bdsm extreme edition

[faint gust]

sometimes the sharp object corresponds to the original shape

like if an unopened condom is sharpened it's more like a saw blade

[minor ore]

yes

[royal gale]

just don't give the man a stand, make him the best blacksmith in history

can smith blades from literally any material ever

he just grabs a plastic cup and goes nuts

[hallow sigil]

No

[minor ore]

He’s gonna be like Rohan

[hallow sigil]

He grabs a plastic cup and NUTS

And then jizz blade

[royal gale]

he grabs nuts

yes

[minor ore]

Where he sharpens everything quickly

[faint gust]

dude could you imagine that
a jojo part that keeps the stands but the main jojo isn't a stand user and is just discovering their power and trying to outsmart them

[royal gale]

Battle Tendency 2

[minor ore]

Phantom Blood 2

Wait no

[royal gale]

yeah

[faint gust]

Battle Tendency is basically Phantom Blood 2

[hallow sigil]

Granted Joseph in BT was absolutely insane

Even without a stand

[royal gale]

so...Phantom Blood 2²?

[minor ore]

Phantom Blood 3

[faint gust]

Phantom Blood 4

[hallow sigil]

Joseph got a super lame stand like Hermit Purple

Because he was literally already too broken

[royal gale]

he doesn't need a stand to be good

i mean he dies for a second there but he's fine trust me

[minor ore]

Well yeah he sent a person into space without a rocket

[hallow sigil]

Joseph would just punch a stand in the face

[faint gust]

though realistically speaking when you can't even see the stand or realize what it does right away chances are you're dead

and not having your own ability to compete

[hallow sigil]

Stands: punch ghosts
Joseph: ghost puncher

[minor ore]

@faint gust so that’s how kakyoin died..

[royal gale]

basically yes

[faint gust]

what if it would come up with some bullshit explanation by having a jobro that invented stand detecting glasses

[royal gale]

a stand that does nothing except take away the ability of stand users to see other stands

[minor ore]

What if there was a stand that was a pair of magnifying glasses

And when you use them

[royal gale]

a stand that reveals stands

[minor ore]

Knives go into your eyes

[low walrus]

@royal gale AKA Hey Ya!

[royal gale]

holy shit

it takes it away