#jojolion

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burnt pagoda
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aphex,rok homan n animal, damo , i am a rock

kind owlBOT
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@burnt pagoda, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

burnt pagoda
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hehe

old marlin
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Wah wah I need my main antagonists to be big and powerful

minor ore
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that’s who i was missing

burnt pagoda
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i have a rocks alternate name

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i have a cock

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🤡

noble haven
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Wah wah I want jojolion to be boring

minor ore
burnt pagoda
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i meam norisuke even asks if he had a dick

noble haven
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So far every MV has been powerful though

burnt pagoda
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so it suits

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yauho hasent killed amyone

noble haven
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Like powerful as on the level of the main character or even stronger

burnt pagoda
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she lost an arm

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but thats questionable

noble haven
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but like if jobin is really the MV then another dude who is way stronger than him is just another minor villain?

burnt pagoda
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thay dude whos nexk was snappes

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2 mvs

noble haven
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No

burnt pagoda
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simple and easy

noble haven
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it's 1 MV and 1 MR as of part 7

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the MR main rival is Diego

burnt pagoda
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it mighr be a mew spin

old marlin
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Tooru and HD bout to be Jobbers

burnt pagoda
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y so conservative

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about mvs

old marlin
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hate to see it

noble haven
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nah just looking at it logically

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then again this is jojo

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we'll just have to see next month

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if there is a new chapter next month

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I think araki got everything in his house right

burnt pagoda
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araki innovating araki

noble haven
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Like he can just do the chapter at home

old marlin
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No hiatus was announced

noble haven
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?

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Bro?

old marlin
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So yeah new one should be coming

burnt pagoda
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dose araki have Twitter ?

old marlin
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Pretty sure he does

noble haven
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Oh I thought you were saying "No, hiatus was announced"

burnt pagoda
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or any social 3

tame tide
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he doesn't run araki_jojo

old marlin
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Nah lmao

noble haven
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Yeah obv he doesn't run that account

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Hmmm what is a good panel from the new chapter

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that I can have

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as my pfp

tame tide
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does it have to be a jobin panel

noble haven
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Nope

simple kraken
burnt pagoda
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were can i see his most recent arteorks that arent jojo chaps

noble haven
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the Jobin one was just really good

simple kraken
noble haven
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Uhhhh

simple kraken
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I liked this panel

noble haven
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No

simple kraken
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Ok

burnt pagoda
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he eat borger in public like ojiro

noble haven
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It's a good panel

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but doesn't fit as a pfp

simple kraken
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Yeah true

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Uh

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Maybe a mamezuku one, idk

noble haven
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Yeah a Mamezuku one could work

burnt pagoda
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maybe hes a corpse being controlled by satoru

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stand seption

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cuz his eyes look more dead than menacing

toxic narwhal
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The hell is a stand seption

noble haven
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A stand having a stand

burnt pagoda
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using a stand to control a stand

noble haven
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Nvm

kind owlBOT
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@noble haven, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 19 !

burnt pagoda
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and tou are that stand

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you *

toxic narwhal
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Aint that just silver chariot requiem?

burnt pagoda
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no

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you become the dudes stand

noble haven
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there is a connection between the HD and CR tbh

toxic narwhal
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So its more like limp bizkit?

burnt pagoda
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mitsuba calls the hd body a stand

tame tide
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Whats cr

noble haven
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calamtic energy

old marlin
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Jojolion fans really think Tooru is just Kaato in disguise

noble haven
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chariot requiem

burnt pagoda
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heh

toxic narwhal
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Why tho?

noble haven
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tooru being Kaato in disguise is just fucking

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stupid

tame tide
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who thinks that glad

burnt pagoda
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i want kyo back

noble haven
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hahahah

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no

tame tide
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I given up on Kyo

noble haven
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ppl only started to like Kyo after she went missing

burnt pagoda
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how you gonna make a family dynamic

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and forgwt the mcs bio sis

noble haven
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they don't know that

burnt pagoda
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1/2 bio sis

noble haven
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plus she's really just

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half sister

old marlin
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I mean most of us didnt know jojo back during the Vitamin C arc

toxic narwhal
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Well, its jojo
Lots of characters vanish over time

burnt pagoda
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both know

noble haven
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both know but does the Higashikata family know?

burnt pagoda
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she is the one who tells him he is her brother

old marlin
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like quarter bio sis

tame tide
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how is Kyo gonna help him

burnt pagoda
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perusing stand

noble haven
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the HD can just

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get into objects

tame tide
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she can still die

noble haven
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without opening shit

tame tide
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even if it's just her stand perusing

noble haven
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plus she's thinking of pursuing him

burnt pagoda
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atleaat make her do something

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her moms ar stake

noble haven
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Nah we're good

burnt pagoda
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ahe waa2ready to kill jouske to protect her

noble haven
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Kyo is bad anyways

burnt pagoda
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was

toxic narwhal
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Kyo is alright

noble haven
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She's boring

toxic narwhal
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Dont have enough material to judge her properly

noble haven
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She was just there so we can understand more about Josuke

burnt pagoda
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cuz she's never there

tame tide
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I dont think there's much she can do for holly

noble haven
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That's it really

burnt pagoda
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imagine cuz shes au jotaro

noble haven
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she's not au jotaro though

tame tide
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shut up

burnt pagoda
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in the climax she pops outa nowhere and kills the mv

toxic narwhal
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Possible

noble haven
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the only thing they have in common is the hat

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that's it

burnt pagoda
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stealing the kill

noble haven
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when did Jotaro come out of nowhere to kill the MV?

burnt pagoda
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not nowhere

tame tide
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bbbbb but but but her personality!!

kind owlBOT
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@tame tide, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 24 !

toxic narwhal
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Well, the time stop came outta nowhere

burnt pagoda
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the nowhere is cuz shes not in the story

noble haven
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time stop was hinted though

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jotaro was in the story though

toxic narwhal
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Hinted for the world

burnt pagoda
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and in pt4 joraro ia absemt 4 the main fight

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but he concludes it

noble haven
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hinted for SP through

toxic narwhal
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Not for star platinum

noble haven
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though*

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when he got the drink at the Darby gamer fight out of nowhere

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cutting Joseph's prosthetic finger

burnt pagoda
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your getting defensive over nuttin

noble haven
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?

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No I'm not

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I'm just saying what happened

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Lol

burnt pagoda
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asking me me where did jotaro come outa nowhere

noble haven
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yeah I'm just asking

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that's not being defensive

burnt pagoda
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why are you asking when you know the answer

noble haven
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I didn't know and there is still no answer

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Josuke did all the work on Kira

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and the one who killed him was the ambulance anyways

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So the ambulance was the one who appeared out of nowhere

toxic narwhal
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Nah, it was there

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Just camping

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Damn kill stealer

noble haven
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True true

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For real

toxic narwhal
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What can probably be this part final asspull?

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Part 3 had the same stand stuff
Part 4 had the ambulance
5 had GER
6 oxygen
7 the perfect rotation
And 2 had...well, everything

noble haven
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Part 7 wasnt really an asspull if I'm honest

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the rotation stuff was there for most of the part

toxic narwhal
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It wasnt as much a asspull as it was just convinient that the perfect rotation could pierce through love train

noble haven
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Well I mean

toxic narwhal
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But it kinda counts

noble haven
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Gravity thing

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the perfect rotation related to gravity

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gravity through love train

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boon

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boom*

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this was shown again during TW fight with Diego

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and it was already shown in part 6

toxic narwhal
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Forget gravity

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Gravity sucks

noble haven
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I have a feeling pucci controlling gravity is definitely related to him lowering TS

toxic narwhal
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It died with part 6

old marlin
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Stronger than Time!!!

noble haven
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it died with part 7

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so far anyways

azure canopy
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I wouldn't call the perfect rotation an ass pull but I see your point

toxic narwhal
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Yes, it is kind of a strech

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But tusk act 4 going through dimensions is pretty bullshit

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Not that its a bad thing

azure canopy
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I mean, Araki had to make him be able to kill Valentine, so I guess it was his only option

noble haven
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bro tusk act 4 going through dimensions is because of

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gravity

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gravityyyyyyy

toxic narwhal
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Bro

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Gravity died with pucci

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The real stuff now is KARMIC ENERGY

noble haven
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dawg I'm talking about pt7

azure canopy
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wouldn't that be saying like time died with DIO?

toxic narwhal
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Not really

noble haven
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either way they're probably joking about gravity dying with part 6

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because it was right there in part 7

azure canopy
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gravity ties more into destiny and fate

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Love Train and all that would be more karma

toxic narwhal
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Basically a cute word for plot

azure canopy
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while they are still under the same general category

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they are different

noble haven
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no dude tusk act 4 was literally about gravity

toxic narwhal
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I thought it was about rotation

azure canopy
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it was about gravity too

white beacon
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Direction of misfortune/bad luck/disaster seems to be a commonality between SBR and JJL

azure canopy
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but then we have to see what gravity means in SBR

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and yeah exactly what Jan said

toxic narwhal
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Cant gravity just be plot?

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I really cant bother remembering all the philosophies of destiny in jojo

azure canopy
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well I mean we could simplify a lot of things by that logic

toxic narwhal
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Makes the whole stuff easier

azure canopy
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but I guess we just decide to use the complicated ways to keep the symbolysm and stuff

toxic narwhal
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The simbolism gets a little tiring when im not reading the manga

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So whenever im talk about this things i just bring it down to plot and stuff

white beacon
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I've already talked about it before but there's a strong similarity between Ticket To Ride's tear shards being able to direct "misfortune" on a target, and Akefu being able to cause disasters around whoever sees his back

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There's also Love Train too and how it redirects "misfortune"

toxic narwhal
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Love train just redirects

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Hd straight up causes this stuff

white beacon
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That's.. What I said

toxic narwhal
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Nah, you just said it was similar

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Im specificating this stuff

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Shit, i type stuff a lot

white beacon
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Either way, my point is that if Akefu or whoever is behind the ability is the Main Villain and this is what their power is at the end, then this can tell that this is the theme for the SBR universe, to manipulate luck and misfortune

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Or something like that

toxic narwhal
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Weve gone from time to misfortune

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Seems about right

obsidian maple
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Hello

pulsar yoke
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Hey uh, we were on hiatus for a little bit a while ago, is there a consistent new chapter schedule now?

toxic narwhal
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One ch every month

pulsar yoke
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Is it the 18th still?

white beacon
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There's no confirmed hiatus for now, so expect the same monthly schedule

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Yes the 18th

pulsar yoke
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Ok cool thanks

white beacon
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But this month's chapter was early because it was leaked

pulsar yoke
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Wack

white beacon
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Have you read it yet?

toxic narwhal
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How do you leak a chapter?

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Do you like, steal the pages or something?

pulsar yoke
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Break into arakis house and take scans of the pages lmao

white beacon
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Some of the UJ magazines where released early to some people because they were having a special edition something, I think

tame tide
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nah it just came out early this month

pulsar yoke
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Also yes I've read it

old marlin
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i live with Araki

lost slate
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Cool

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Can you find manuscripts to debunk the requiem theories?

young meteor
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Damn

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That looks sick

lost slate
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someone should pin that

old marlin
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Someone

burnt quiver
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isn’t there a similar gif for josuke

ocean mirage
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does anyone have speed king stat page?

old marlin
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Dont think it exists

burnt quiver
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f in loyalty

old marlin
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C in Design

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For CHANGES

ocean mirage
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i wonder how hard his punches are

old marlin
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EVERY CHAPTER

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Vry

ocean mirage
old marlin
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Essentially

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And is very out of date

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This was from around Blue Hawaii iirc

burnt quiver
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speed king sucks!

kind owlBOT
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@burnt quiver, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

burnt quiver
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thank u made in heaven

ocean mirage
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speed king have cool facial expression

burnt quiver
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no,

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well

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yeah

old marlin
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he just goes :O

ocean mirage
old marlin
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Still waiting for him to be drawn the same way twice

ocean mirage
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this one is from the beetle fight i think

old marlin
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yessir

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Behind Jousuke

ocean mirage
kind owlBOT
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@ocean mirage, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

ocean mirage
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i wonder what sound this thing makes

old marlin
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SPEEEEEEEYEAAAAAA

white beacon
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Meraryaryaaaaa

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it seemed like it was trying to say "speed" when it first did it's stand cry of speeeeeeey speeeeeyaaaaaa

lost slate
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Does anyone else think that Speed King looks like Laputa?

white beacon
lost slate
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I tried to find stuff on forums but didn't see anything

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There was this one blog post where someone reviewed Ojiro's Return and constantly called Ojiro and Jobin scumbags

old marlin
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Speed :D

upper knoll
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Unfortunately, it does not look like a pog

white beacon
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SHUT

upper knoll
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😔

minor ore
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it be kinda pogging

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just a little

old marlin
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@minor ore 🤏

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:iloveu:

minor ore
old marlin
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:ihateu:

ripe marlin
young meteor
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:iloveu:

edgy mortar
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Quick reminder that araki draws traditionally

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So he can't copy and paste speed king

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You could say it's traced but the sizes vary

old marlin
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Thats not how any artist designs a character

edgy mortar
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What do you mean by that

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Ooh I see
I just scrolled up

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I was referring to the guy that said that speed king looks copy and pasted few days ago

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And said it's lazy work

burnt quiver
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speed king didn’t change his look he got goggles

raw steppe
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In chapter 96, they reffer to the head doctor as Head Doctor, without "the" before.
Head Doctor is a song by Snoop Dogg, so perhaps that's gonna be the Stand's name since we already have Doggystyle

ancient dagger
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the tusk things that speed king has turn from square shaped to more rounded

edgy mortar
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Ah

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Jojolion colored has been updated

thorn pier
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Urban Guerilla looks pretty boring in color.

ancient dagger
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doremifasolati do and urban guerilla was such a wack fight imo

stark fossil
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I don't think Araki has succeeded in making an underground fight look good yet

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Though that's probably not the main problem you have with the fight

ancient dagger
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yeah they go from one thing to another instead of showing exactly what happend

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main problem i have with dorem and urban guerilla fight is i just didnt like it and i thought it was kinda boring, even if you like it its still wack tho

edgy mortar
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Secco was pretty good

stark fossil
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Doremi etc. is a cool concept but little plus shapes that hurt you? Come on Araki

edgy mortar
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What's wrong with that

stark fossil
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The Secco fight was really cool but when they were running through the ground and stuff... that didn't look good to me

edgy mortar
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You could go into detail of why you don't like it

stark fossil
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I can't really; it's just my taste in soil visualisation

edgy mortar
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Soil visualization

stark fossil
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The key thing I remember from the whole fight is Rai's arm, which was incredible

thorn pier
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The fight is amazing mainly just because of Rai.

edgy mortar
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@edgy mortar

old marlin
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You didnt have to do that

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but you did it

minor ore
old marlin
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Wheres that one piece of art

kind owlBOT
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@old marlin, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 42 !

old marlin
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The new chapter cover references like a geniune piece of art or somethin

white beacon
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Magritte's Golconda

old marlin
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There it is

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thanks Jan

white beacon
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Magritte also has a different piece of work that's specifically his iconic black suited bowlar hat guy, but only showing his back

old marlin
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Where have i heard this one

white beacon
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smh pinning that but not pinning the multiple times i've talked about this painting ever since the volume cover came out

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betrayed, i feel

old marlin
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Where

white beacon
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Golconda was also referenced in Great Days during the first hayato sequence

old marlin
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ill pin that it sounds more interesting

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Yeah i remember that

lethal tundra
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Whats golconda

white beacon
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Golconda is some place i think in india, it was a diamond mine town

lethal tundra
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Poggers

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How is it referenced

old marlin
thorn pier
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Ah.

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Cool.

white beacon
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magritte uses himself as a model for the black suit men in his works

white beacon
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what, don't pin that

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ugh, it looks ugly as a pin since it's linked images

old marlin
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JAN WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO

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I thought this was the master message you were talking about

stark fossil
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Ah I didn't realise that painting was well trodden ground in this channel KakyoinSad

white beacon
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I HAVE NO MASTER MESSAGE, ALL MY TALKS ABOUT IT WHERE SEPARATE MESSAGES

old marlin
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Your fault then.

white beacon
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bitch

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i'll break your legs like rai hitting a hospital door

stark fossil
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Anyone know the reason for the change to Meryayryaaaa? Is he saying a different word, or is it a different way to read the kanji? Or something else?

old marlin
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Seems to be something new entirely

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@white beacon Dont remind me of that it made me so sad for him

stark fossil
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This is the speed king power upgrade we were all waiting for

white beacon
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yeah "speeeeeyyy = speed" to "mera = fire"

stark fossil
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Ooooooooooo nice

whole field
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friendship with gravity ended

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hello karmic energy

old marlin
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This

ancient dagger
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what if speed king name just changes to heat king

willow pendant
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no

ancient dagger
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what if speed king powerup is consistent design

lost slate
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Something's impossible if the mangaka can't grant it

old marlin
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I can grant anythinh

thorn pier
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Yeah I think heat king is probably gonna be the localized name. Either that or fast king or something... fire king, maybe.

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People suggest emperor something but I think they're gonna keep the 'king' part since that's the point of all of the names

whole field
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Heat King is good tbh

ancient dagger
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yeah i think heat king or something similar would be the name

willow pendant
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Speed king

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Heat king just sounds lame

ancient dagger
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why would it be speed tho

willow pendant
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Because he speeds the heat

thorn pier
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We're talking localized names, right? It most likely would not be 'speed' then.

willow pendant
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It may be

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Just like soft and wet

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Its the same

thorn pier
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Wait, so why did they get to keep that one?

willow pendant
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Idk

thorn pier
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Paisley Park is called Flower Park lol

ancient dagger
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decent one

willow pendant
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i mean not ba d

thorn pier
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Nuts N. Bolts.

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That's the localized name for NKC

ancient dagger
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thats pretty good

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some localized names are horrible

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someone on youtube did a tier list for them

thorn pier
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Lol wtf

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I Am A Rock is just called I Rock

ancient dagger
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wtf

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wouldn't "im a rock" work?

whole field
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ima rock

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lol

thorn pier
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Yeah I think it would

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California King Bed is just King Bed. It's good enough.

ancient dagger
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go watch "Ranking the Terrible JoJo Localization Names" by yakkocmn

whole field
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should've done that for all stand names

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Metallic A.

thorn pier
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King of Nothingness

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Hm.

ancient dagger
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king not anything

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would be good lmao

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or king naught

whole field
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King Not-A-Thing

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just graze those copyright laws

ancient dagger
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for all names just like turn "silver chariot" into "silver chario t"

whole field
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let's see them sue that

thorn pier
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King No

edgy mortar
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King non existent

willow pendant
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king

toxic sphinx
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tfw when u want to hear jobin's stand cry but you're still halfway jojolion 😔

thorn pier
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So finish it.

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Finish JJL now.

ebon rampart
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yeah jjl just finished so it’ll be an easy read

toxic sphinx
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jobin no plz

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im too lazy to read

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maybe if i wait just long enough i wont need to wait for new chapters

thorn pier
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It's like Johnny Joestar says, you don't hunger enough. You're not a true fan.

whole field
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catch up quickly so you can be in 1-month-waiting-hell every new chapter

lost slate
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Feel the pain with the rest of us

ancient dagger
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i hope head doctor's stand or head doctor or what ever it turns out being doesnt end up being inconsistent like king crimson

exotic cobalt
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@rigid fern can i get jjl role

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for new release

brave lance
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Ok so I was outta commission for a while.

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What the heck is going on in JJL?

willow pendant
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Wdym?

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What’s the last chapter you read?

brave lance
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The one with Kira's mother, I suppose.

thorn pier
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So like chapter 2 or something lol

willow pendant
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Oooof

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Chapter 2

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Man

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You missed out

brave lance
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No, the one where she comes in, saves him and she gets the disease, too.

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I'll admit, I stopped reading when I lost track.

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And now I kinda need to catch up quickly.

thorn pier
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So... chapter 91 or something?

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92 maybe?

brave lance
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Yeah.

thorn pier
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93 actually probably.

willow pendant
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i mean

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You could just read

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Its a whole lot better

thorn pier
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Yeah I just meant that Holly was introduced pretty early. It was a joke.

brave lance
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Well, the b/w is an eyesore.

thorn pier
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Eh, it's really not that bad, is it? You'll get used to it.

brave lance
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Ok, but lemme just ask this.

exotic cobalt
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Joshus hair gets fixed

willow pendant
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What

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no way

exotic cobalt
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Do you really wanna miss out on that

brave lance
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What the heck is Joubin's intention rn, and who's the head doctor?

willow pendant
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Fr

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Joshu hair gets fixed???

thorn pier
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Jobin's intention makes sense. HD... we don't know for sure yet, but he's fucking cool.

willow pendant
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good joke

thorn pier
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Yeah Joshu hair is fixed.

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Well.

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It's better.

exotic cobalt
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Joubin wants the fruit to cure the curse

willow pendant
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What

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Pics

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Pocs

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Pics or it didn’t happen

brave lance
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For all we know, the HD is bad...?

exotic cobalt
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Hato becomes extra thicc

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Tsurugi looks... like he could be doing better

thorn pier
ebon rampart
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Once joshu eats the fruit he’ll become buff and unlock requiem for his stand and then he’ll punish those who’ve wronged hom

minor ore
thorn pier
#

Joshu Over Heaven

#

Not Nut King Call Over Heaven, no.

gentle venture
#

once joshu eats the fruit it will fix his hair

minor ore
#

^

thorn pier
#

Handsome Joshu.

ebon rampart
#

Turns out Joshu was the reincarnation of Jesus

gentle venture
#

what happens if he fuses with the corpse then

minor ore
#

Ultimate Form Joshu

ebon rampart
#

origin form joshus

thorn pier
#

Joshu: Love Train

young meteor
#

Alternate Universe Joshu

ancient dagger
#

joshu has 2 stands, he is main villain

kind owlBOT
#

@ancient dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

lost slate
#

JoshuJoshulion

upper knoll
#

Joshus the main protagonist

lost slate
#

He needs to be in the spotlight in the next chapter

willow pendant
#

no

lost slate
#

Joshu and Josuke vs Jobin would be pretty cool

#

Especially because Josuke hasn't been in a chapter since December (jan issue)

willow pendant
#

Jobin can just kill em instantly

thorn pier
#

There was no Joshu vs Jobin unfortunately, and now that HD is there, there probably won't be.

upper knoll
#

If there's Josuke, there's probably Rai too

lost slate
#

Rai says he can't exit the prison though

#

Otherwise he will get misfortune

thorn pier
#

What

#

He did lol

#

He already went to the hospital.

upper knoll
#

Exactly

#

He's gonna team up with Josuke

thorn pier
#

Yeah. I think he's gonna show up midbattle though.

#

Not sure why.

ebon rampart
#

I fucking hate araki

#

should’ve made joshu the mc in the first place

minor ore
#

What's all this about

#

With Joshu being the mc

upper knoll
#

The problem is that he's not

minor ore
#

Where

frozen charm
#

Mamezuku should just eat a rokakakajakakakakakaka to get his fingers back

lost slate
#

well acshully it's called locacaca 6251

#

Is there a reason why that name sounds familiar?

white beacon
#

Because 6251 is part of the title of one of the JoJo artbooks?

vocal mason
#

Nice ol' callback

#

I think 6251 was the first artbook

grizzled pilot
#

it was

vocal mason
#

I want the artbooks but holy shit they go for a lot

#

I also want the first issue of Shonen Jump with chapter 1 of PB but that goes for around $400 online

hoary sun
#

We are this close to a tooru stand reveallll

#

But it makes a lot of sense now that the HD is everywhere just because it’s a mark

thorn pier
#

Remember when we thought Tooru was confirmed evil because we believed he was talking to HD because of a mistranslation lol

ancient dagger
#

i dont remember that, can you tell me what the mistranslation was

hoary sun
#

Yeah i don’t remember that either

thorn pier
#

Trying to find it

vocal mason
#

Jojo and mistranslations are like Brothers

thorn pier
#

Well based on that image I sent, a rough translation is “I’m listening to yasuho... you are going there, right?”

#

This was made by @minor ore

#

But what he actually says is "Yes, I hear you Yasuho-chan..." and then "...I'll be right there."

#

So we all thought he was talking to HD lol

vocal mason
#

have there been other big mistranslations like that

#

I know part 5 was bad for a while

thorn pier
#

Well this isn't a big mistranslation it was just Helios on this discord server who attempted to translate it quickly I guess.

vocal mason
#

ah

thorn pier
#

It's translated properly in chapter 96.

#

It's just that the raws leaked early and they weren't translated soo.

hoary sun
#

Tooru is hella sus so

#

Now at least

#

Well okay

#

He was super suspicious before but now even more so

vocal mason
#

Man likes hamburber

hoary sun
#

Is there anything better than pussy

#

Yes a really good burger

vocal mason
#

well

#

if it was better than pussy he wouldn't have gone to help yasuho

hoary sun
#

His pause is concerning and im just ready for him to betray them

honest blaze
#

Its gonna be great

thorn pier
#

Tooru's death is going to be great.

hoary sun
#

World’s first tooru stan

#

And last

honest blaze
#

doopo, i know its coming, but don't remind me 😔

hoary sun
#

I just hope he has a cool stand

honest blaze
#

We've been seeing that cool stand for multiple chaptas

thorn pier
#

I don't think so but ok 😳

honest blaze
#

we may dissagree but i still ly

vocal mason
#

I don't think the HD is Tooru's stand

thorn pier
#

Yeah I don't know, I still believe it's the HD. I mean, we know the Head Doctor exists, and he's been hyped up so much now.

vocal mason
#

and other people see him, like at the Medical conference

#

and aren't plagued by calamity

thorn pier
#

Yeah yeah, we know he exists.

vocal mason
#

someone was saying it was a physical stand form like yesterday

#

but I think that's silly

thorn pier
#

Yeah, but I must admit that if Tooru is not the user, I'm not sure what role he'll play.

#

I don't see another "small" fight happening right now, and it seems like we're getting close to the end.

vocal mason
#

still hoping he's just a red herring

kind owlBOT
#

@vocal mason, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 14 !

vocal mason
#

I think it would be a good twist

#

and I've thought he's harmless for months now

#

but I'm the minority opinion

thorn pier
#

Maybe, yeah. It wouldn't be a new thing since the same happened with the Yasuho and Norisuke thing.

undone zodiac
#

do we think there were any rock humans in sbr?

thorn pier
#

We went over this already and there aren't any other horse riders that did not have a name that's just a reference.

hoary sun
#

Yeah, im p sure that the hd projection is just a projection of the real one

thorn pier
#

Yep.

vocal mason
#

what reference

thorn pier
#

Uh. Music reference?

vocal mason
#

no the rock human thing

ebon rampart
#

Yo Yo Ma

willow pendant
#

Yo mama

thorn pier
#

mama

#

HD entering the Higashikata estate was fucking awesome.

hoary sun
#

That’s gonna be a sick anime moment

kind owlBOT
#

@hoary sun, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

minor ore
#

broooo BROOOOOOOOOOO

#

i just read it

#

that shit was wylde

exotic cobalt
#

Joubin gonna die

minor ore
#

when he smashed the phone

#

I thought he was just gonna ice Joshu

hoary sun
#

He probably thought about it

minor ore
#

does she mean everyone affected by the stand?

#

or the fruit?

exotic cobalt
#

Everyone affected by the stand will destroy themselves

minor ore
#

oh i see i see

#

I guess Jobin's not affected by it so he can't see it?

#

or he's just oblivious

exotic cobalt
#

No hes just not seen or been told of the HD so he doesnt really know anything about it

minor ore
#

true

#

that ending doe 💀

#

shiiiiiiiit

white beacon
#

When the Lion is JoJo I dunno haven't seen it yet

simple kraken
#

Are there 2 fruits

exotic cobalt
#

Theres the original one

#

The grafted one

#

And locacaca 6251 which is the original but doesnt exchange vital parts

simple kraken
#

Like 2 fruits on the plant

#

That jobin has

#

Wait

#

One of those is the grafted one right

#

yeah i was confused there

minor ore
#

What happened there

#

I’m rereading 83 to 96

#

How did he appear on the bench like that

#

When tooru pointed

#

I’m really convinced it’s tooru that behind this

hoary sun
#

That happens after the first calamity tho, when jousuke bumps into the stretcher

exotic cobalt
#

The HD is the stand

hoary sun
#

The HD is giving a lecture a crowd though

exotic cobalt
#

He also appears inside a photo frame

minor ore
#

the HD is in 3 places at once as far as we know

thorn pier
#

HD is both the head doctor AND a stand.

#

Can people not understand this?

hoary sun
#

It just doesn’t make sense for tooru’s stand to show the HD when the HD is an actual person

thorn pier
#

I'm pretty sure that's the case, but of course I could be wrong. But with him giving the lecture I'm almost certain the head doctor is not just the stand.

minor ore
#

dont rock humans take others identities

#

could it be related to that

#

Mamezuku flat out says that the HD is a stand but he could be wrong

#

but tooru literally summoned him

#

if u reread 84

#

I belive Mamezuku

#

same

#

rn I think the HD is a stand

#

HOWEVER

#

it looks like tooru?

#

the sun eyes

#

and swirls

#

im unsure tho

#

maybe

#

prediction though

#

this stand is called "Black Hole Sun"

#

the blinds in front of its eyes remind me of the hand

thorn pier
#

Same.

minor ore
#

toorus dialogue gives me a clue what the ability could be like he is the main source and sends out waves of karma that form the shape of the doctor

thorn pier
#

Yeah well HD is both a stand and a user.

#

I think that's almost certain.

minor ore
#

Tooru saying he is coming to the estate

#

and as soon as he said it

#

jobin and mitsuba get attacked

#

it just lines up always too well with him

#

I think Tooru is definitely up to no good

#

he had those eyes

#

he adores yasuho

#

so thats a thing

thorn pier
#

He is but I doubt he's the user of the HD stand.

tame tide
#

I still think he's just a red herring

minor ore
#

could be

#

he called her a goddess so hes gonna help

#

WAIT OMG

#

tooru called yasuho a goddess

thorn pier
#

🤔

#

Lucy was a goddess

minor ore
#

who else called a very important woman to the sotry

thorn pier
#

That's your point, right?

minor ore
#

yea

#

theres also the theory that tooru is good luck and HD bad luck

thorn pier
#

What lol

#

That's a bad theory

minor ore
#

very

#

twitter theories are kinda meh

#

he looks dead

#

like he has the typical dead eyes

#

he's not dead tho

#

villains tend to have weird eyes

#

like diavolo

#

and dopio

thorn pier
#

Yeah but he's not the user of the fucking HD stand. I don't believe it. Head Doctor is so fucking cool and Tooru is just uncool.

minor ore
#

Gappy has weird eyes

#

we are gonna see

#

gappy is like umm i want both

tame tide
#

I think the HD is part of tsurugis evolution shit

ancient dagger
#

i think it is very probably that HD is similar to F.F in that he is the stand and the user at once

minor ore
#

I just think Tooru is gonna get up to some tom voolery

#

my theory is that the stand is electricity or some energy that charges objects around it

#

and makes em collide into people

#

huh?

#

the HD

#

sorry but that makes no sense

thorn pier
#

No it makes a little bit sense.

minor ore
#

how can he go into walls then

#

read toorus dialogue

tame tide
#

thats not how electricity works

minor ore
#

no it could be some energy>

thorn pier
#

It's static electricity, that's how it works kinda?

minor ore
#

also non-electric shit was knocking into people too

#

i said electricity or some energy

thorn pier
#

Also what do you mean "how can he go into walls then"

minor ore
#

like Karmic energy

thorn pier
#

That's irrelevant to the colliding thing.

minor ore
#

but he can go into walls

#

we saw it

#

not walls

#

he went into shit

supple totem
#

i have a theory

minor ore
#

he can go only into framed objects

#

or screens

thorn pier
#

That has nothing to do with the colliding. That's just the illusion part of it.

#

Or whatever it is.

supple totem
#

what if the headocter kiled the whole higashkata familiy and not tsurugi

minor ore
#

he's in a cabinet

thorn pier
#

Dude, I fucking know.

minor ore
#

we know

thorn pier
#

But that's irrelevant to the colliding thing.

minor ore
#

so how does electricity do that?

supple totem
#

oh

thorn pier
#

What do you mean?

#

How does colliding make him able to do that?

minor ore
#

calfpie was saying energy or electrcity

supple totem
#

it would also explain why tsurugi is the only one alive

#

he has no bad karma

minor ore
#

what does energy/electricity got to do with going into objects

thorn pier
#

Yes, I know. But he can already do the karma/colliding thing which doesn't have anything to do with the illusion walking in frames.

minor ore
#

non-electric objects too

#

aight

#

so electricity/energy has nothing to do with it

thorn pier
#

Yeah.

minor ore
#

okay

thorn pier
#

But it's not that weird, that's already how it works.

supple totem
#

well its more spiritual energy

#

stand Eneregy

thorn pier
#

No it's just calfpie's theory.

minor ore
#

apparently it's Karma

#

unless Rai is wrong

supple totem
#

Karmatic harming energy

minor ore
#

which you know he could be

#

cool

#

i swear

#

anyway

thorn pier
#

He doesn't seem to be wrong, he proved his theory.

supple totem
#

what

#

what did i miss

minor ore
#

tooru may have explained the stand

#

in some way

#

Mamezuku's exposition seemed to be Araki basically talking to us

#

and also mitsuba

#

so its 2 viewpoints

#

yeah

#

that have different takes on it

#

Araki uses Mitsuba to tell us shit a lot

thorn pier
#

There was also Rai's first explanation but that one is probably still relevant.

minor ore
#

I think their takes a pretty consistent

#

they both say that HD is the stand

#

that we are sure about

tame tide
#

what was his first explaination again

thorn pier
#

when you want to pursue him you die basically

#

You know.

minor ore
#

ye

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 24 !

minor ore
#

you don't die but

#

you ended getting damaged

thorn pier
#

yeah yeah

minor ore
#

and you could die

#

the new one from 96

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 17 !

supple totem
#

depending on ur karma

minor ore
#

I think Karma might affect how much damage is done

supple totem
#

yes

minor ore
#

like, the murderer guy

supple totem
#

that would explain why tsurugi isnt dead at all

#

he doesnt take any damage from it

minor ore
#

he instantly killed himself

supple totem
#

because he has no bad karma

tame tide
#

didn't he get damaged in 91

minor ore
#

well I don't think Tsurugi ever pursued the HD

supple totem
#

well yea he did kill that one rockhuman

minor ore
#

also Tsurugui has the rock disease rn

supple totem
#

mitsuba or joubin didnt either

minor ore
#

how did he turn into a paper crane to a normal human

#

and now back again?

#

Jobin just tried to punch the HD

supple totem
#

Stand magic

minor ore
#

it was the last panel

supple totem
#

stand physics

#

araki physics

tame tide
#

hes just warping

minor ore
#

speedy boy is gonna be... dmg

supple totem
#

yea joubin is going to die

minor ore
#

Jobin has some bad fucking Karma

#

he literally did the most direct pursue

#

OH YEA

#

jobins carma

#

werewr

#

karma*

#

are you okay

supple totem
#

how did he pursue the headocter?

minor ore
#

he literally just tried to punch him

tame tide
#

punching him?

supple totem
#

thats not called pursuing

#

thats called self defence

minor ore
#

bruh

supple totem
#

the headocter came to him

#

joubin didnt come to the headocter

thorn pier
#

Jobin is not going to just die right now, I really don't think so.

minor ore
#

I don't think he'll die but

#

im curios about toorus last name

supple totem
#

take a big blow

minor ore
#

he's probably gonna suffer some heavy wounds

tame tide
#

he doesn't have much longer to live

supple totem
#

neither does the whole of higashkata family

minor ore
#

so we are gonna have 5 characters close to death

supple totem
#

exept tsurugi

minor ore
#

and need the fruit

supple totem
#

except*

minor ore
#

5 men 1 fruit

supple totem
#

Lmao

#

good one

minor ore
#

im curious if tooru is gonna try and hurt jobin

#

or even help yasuho

supple totem
#

i doubt hes going to help yasuo

minor ore
#

and his last name

#

we dont know it

#

we just know tooru?

supple totem
#

yep

thorn pier
#

Yasuho wants the fruit now too.

#

So 5 men, 1 woman, 1 fruit.

minor ore
supple totem
#

bro kick yasuo out of the part it ruins the joke

tame tide
#

shes wanted the fruit since urban guerilla

thorn pier
#

Well. She wants it for herself now.

minor ore
#

she is being selfish for once

#

which is really interesting

#

she may betray josuke after he betrayed her

#

be like kaato dont let your life be decided by men

thorn pier
#

Yeah I don't like how Yasuho and Tooru are seemingly going to be working together for a thing that is not in Josuke's interest. That might be what Tooru will be doing these next chapters, since he is NOT the user of HD stand.

supple totem
#

how do you know hes not the user?

minor ore
#

we will see how he will react to the HD being there

supple totem
#

if the headocter is the stand

#

whos the user????

#

ye

thorn pier
#

The HD is probably the user.

tame tide
#

tsurugi dawg

thorn pier
#

But he is also the stand. Yes? We never see the stand's face, but we do see the HD's face. Therefore both exist but the stand is the fake. Yes?

supple totem
#

or tsurugis new ability

#

its a possibility

minor ore
#

notice how tooru didn't want to go the the higashikata estate himself until yasuho mentioned she can "heal her injuries"

#

joshuwheeze he wants the fruit too

supple totem
#

mm tasty looking fruit

minor ore
#

it looks like a cactus fruit

#

and tomato in one

thorn pier
#

Doesn't look like a tomato but ok

minor ore
#

cactuses are a jojo reference™️

supple totem
#

awesome

minor ore
#

maybe more like dragon fruit x cactus fruit

#

not tomato

supple totem
#

the original rokaka looked like a tomato

minor ore
#

i-

#

we know Tsurugi gets better at least

#

cuz of the flashforward

#

and that tooru, HD, mitsuba and jobin are nowhere

#

and yasuho

#

and the family is normal?

#

and thats before the harvest

thorn pier
#

And that they forget something. SO. New ability. Maybe it's Tooru's actually?

minor ore
#

it could be that

supple totem
#

i'm still disapointed on how we dont see any antichrist stuff

minor ore
#

backstories happen when character is about to die mostly

#

could tooru be wanting the fruit so he gets praise from the HD

#

or like take the fame for himself

supple totem
#

hm. i think its the first one

#

he prob wants higher status from the headocter

#

so he can be know in a positive way around the world

minor ore
#

i dont think he has any intention of helping yasuho its more the fruit

#

she basically told him its there

supple totem
#

ye. You can see how he doesn't look worried at all when she tells Tooru that shes dying

minor ore
#

he is like welp coming

odd monolith
#

Well that chapter was fucking awesome

supple totem
#

ik

honest blaze
#

no

thorn pier
#

But is he aware of it? Maybe and he wants it for himself, but dies to prove the HD's new ability that he gains because he eats the Rokakaka? Every part has someone getting a new ability at some point, so I think it's pretty likely. Especially near the end.

odd monolith
#

I feel like HD's stand is gonna overtake D4C as my favorite

honest blaze
#

im jk this chapter was amazing

odd monolith
#

There's a song by "Endless" called "Calamity"

supple totem
#

woah

thorn pier
#

Yeah it's fcuking amazing btw. Probably not the reference but yes.

honest blaze
#

Endless calamity is a good ass chapter title

odd monolith
#

yeah agreed, it's just kinda that stand description

#

not a name prob

minor ore
#

a whole lotta love

odd monolith
#

but holy hell he is like....the DEFINITION of menacing

minor ore
honest blaze
#

how do i pronounce yournname

odd monolith
#

also I think the stand we saw in the Hospital is Tooru's

honest blaze
#

Is it calf pie or like calf pee

minor ore
#

he is an inter-dimentional demonic entity

odd monolith
#

like DOOMGUY

minor ore
odd monolith
#

or Joshuu

minor ore
#

he can go into 2d mode

odd monolith
#

what's that music video with people doing that

#

I think it was from the 80s

honest blaze
#

hd seen a mario odyssey video and said yeah im doing that now

minor ore
#

calfπ* btw

honest blaze
#

i think there is a head doctor but i also think tooru is making illusions for everyone

#

i see thank you

odd monolith
#

nahh

supple totem
#

it most likely is the headocter is the user

#

and toorus stand can clone him?

odd monolith
#

idk I used to think it was tooru's stand
but the illusion is an exact image of HD

kind owlBOT
#

@odd monolith, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !

honest blaze
#

Im sticking with tooru until its answered

minor ore
#

the stand with the kars blades is so cool

supple totem
#

bro its too boneless

thorn pier
#

IT'S NOT TOORU

#

OK?

minor ore
#

could it be some dimension cutting blades or what

thorn pier
#

Good.

minor ore
#

what is kaatos point too

#

she hasnt had purpose

odd monolith
#

wait what

honest blaze
#

sorry doopo

#

I dissagree

odd monolith
#

armblades

tame tide
#

jobin motivation ig

supple totem
#

well it was the backstory with joubin

minor ore
#

well jobins backstory but that?

thorn pier
#

Yeah well you're wrong, we'll fucking see.

tame tide
#

unless she pulls some shit in the next few chapters

minor ore
#

why does she have such an op stand

supple totem
#

idk it was just an arc i guess

honest blaze
#

Whatever you say

supple totem
#

kaato arc

odd monolith
#

what fuccin armblade stand

supple totem
#

also that she shipped the rock human

tame tide
#

are you not caught up tango

honest blaze
thorn pier
#

Oh shit you're andy, sorry I didn't recognize your pfp since well obviously you changed it. I love you but I don't agree.

honest blaze
#

all good

#

ilyt

thorn pier
#

Also you're wrong but 😘

odd monolith
#

oh no I just forgot the arm blade detail

supple totem
#

Bro and look it doesnt have legs. It looks like one of those automatic vac

#

automatic vacumes

odd monolith
#

I just say snakeboi

#

a.k.a. tooru's stand

minor ore
#

i feel like the stand of the HD that attacked mitsuba and jobin started as soon as tooru ended the call with yasuho and headed to the estate

odd monolith
minor ore
#

its so obvious in a way but it could be just a red herring

#

cause everything tooru does lines up with HD somehow

odd monolith
#

I think the illusions and the hospital stand are different stands

thorn pier
#

I don't think so.

#

Yeah the HD is the stand, but it's not the stand. Yes?

odd monolith
#

hospital stand is tooru's, it was keeping an eye on Josuke/Rai
illusion is an automatic from HD, he just lives his life while it protects him