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@burnt pagoda, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !
hehe
Wah wah I need my main antagonists to be big and powerful
that’s who i was missing
Wah wah I want jojolion to be boring

i meam norisuke even asks if he had a dick
So far every MV has been powerful though
Like powerful as on the level of the main character or even stronger
but like if jobin is really the MV then another dude who is way stronger than him is just another minor villain?
No
simple and easy
it mighr be a mew spin
Tooru and HD bout to be Jobbers
hate to see it
nah just looking at it logically
then again this is jojo
we'll just have to see next month
if there is a new chapter next month
I think araki got everything in his house right
araki innovating 
Like he can just do the chapter at home
No hiatus was announced
So yeah new one should be coming
dose araki have Twitter ?
Pretty sure he does
Oh I thought you were saying "No, hiatus was announced"
or any social 3
he doesn't run araki_jojo
Nah lmao
Yeah obv he doesn't run that account
Hmmm what is a good panel from the new chapter
that I can have
as my pfp
does it have to be a jobin panel
Nope
were can i see his most recent arteorks that arent jojo chaps
the Jobin one was just really good
Uhhhh
I liked this panel
No
Ok
he eat borger in public like ojiro
Yeah a Mamezuku one could work
maybe hes a corpse being controlled by satoru
stand seption
cuz his eyes look more dead than menacing
The hell is a stand seption
A stand having a stand
using a stand to control a stand
Nvm
@noble haven, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 19 !
Aint that just silver chariot requiem?
there is a connection between the HD and CR tbh
So its more like limp bizkit?
mitsuba calls the hd body a stand
Whats cr
calamtic energy
Jojolion fans really think Tooru is just Kaato in disguise
chariot requiem
heh
Why tho?
who thinks that glad
I given up on Kyo
ppl only started to like Kyo after she went missing
they don't know that
1/2 bio sis
I mean most of us didnt know jojo back during the Vitamin C arc
Well, its jojo
Lots of characters vanish over time
both know
both know but does the Higashikata family know?
she is the one who tells him he is her brother
like quarter bio sis
how is Kyo gonna help him
she can still die
without opening shit
even if it's just her stand perusing
plus she's thinking of pursuing him
Nah we're good
ahe waa2ready to kill jouske to protect her
Kyo is bad anyways
was
Kyo is alright
She's boring
Dont have enough material to judge her properly
She was just there so we can understand more about Josuke
cuz she's never there
I dont think there's much she can do for holly
That's it really
imagine cuz shes au jotaro
she's not au jotaro though
shut up
in the climax she pops outa nowhere and kills the mv
Possible
stealing the kill
when did Jotaro come out of nowhere to kill the MV?
not nowhere
bbbbb but but but her personality!!
@tame tide, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 24 !
Well, the time stop came outta nowhere
the nowhere is cuz shes not in the story
Hinted for the world
hinted for SP through
Not for star platinum
though*
when he got the drink at the Darby gamer fight out of nowhere
cutting Joseph's prosthetic finger
your getting defensive over nuttin
asking me me where did jotaro come outa nowhere
I didn't know and there is still no answer
Josuke did all the work on Kira
and the one who killed him was the ambulance anyways
So the ambulance was the one who appeared out of nowhere
What can probably be this part final asspull?
Part 3 had the same stand stuff
Part 4 had the ambulance
5 had GER
6 oxygen
7 the perfect rotation
And 2 had...well, everything
Part 7 wasnt really an asspull if I'm honest
the rotation stuff was there for most of the part
It wasnt as much a asspull as it was just convinient that the perfect rotation could pierce through love train
Well I mean
But it kinda counts
Gravity thing
the perfect rotation related to gravity
gravity through love train
boon
boom*
this was shown again during TW fight with Diego
and it was already shown in part 6
I have a feeling pucci controlling gravity is definitely related to him lowering TS
It died with part 6
Stronger than Time!!!
I wouldn't call the perfect rotation an ass pull but I see your point
Yes, it is kind of a strech
But tusk act 4 going through dimensions is pretty bullshit
Not that its a bad thing
I mean, Araki had to make him be able to kill Valentine, so I guess it was his only option
dawg I'm talking about pt7
wouldn't that be saying like time died with DIO?
Not really
either way they're probably joking about gravity dying with part 6
because it was right there in part 7
gravity ties more into destiny and fate
Love Train and all that would be more karma
Basically a cute word for plot
no dude tusk act 4 was literally about gravity
I thought it was about rotation
it was about gravity too
Direction of misfortune/bad luck/disaster seems to be a commonality between SBR and JJL
Cant gravity just be plot?
I really cant bother remembering all the philosophies of destiny in jojo
well I mean we could simplify a lot of things by that logic
Makes the whole stuff easier
but I guess we just decide to use the complicated ways to keep the symbolysm and stuff
The simbolism gets a little tiring when im not reading the manga
So whenever im talk about this things i just bring it down to plot and stuff
I've already talked about it before but there's a strong similarity between Ticket To Ride's tear shards being able to direct "misfortune" on a target, and Akefu being able to cause disasters around whoever sees his back
There's also Love Train too and how it redirects "misfortune"
That's.. What I said
Nah, you just said it was similar
Im specificating this stuff
Shit, i type stuff a lot
Either way, my point is that if Akefu or whoever is behind the ability is the Main Villain and this is what their power is at the end, then this can tell that this is the theme for the SBR universe, to manipulate luck and misfortune
Or something like that
Hello
Hey uh, we were on hiatus for a little bit a while ago, is there a consistent new chapter schedule now?
One ch every month
Is it the 18th still?
There's no confirmed hiatus for now, so expect the same monthly schedule
Yes the 18th
Ok cool thanks
But this month's chapter was early because it was leaked
Wack
Have you read it yet?
Break into arakis house and take scans of the pages lmao
Some of the UJ magazines where released early to some people because they were having a special edition something, I think
nah it just came out early this month
Also yes I've read it
i live with Araki
someone should pin that
Someone
isn’t there a similar gif for josuke
does anyone have speed king stat page?
Dont think it exists
f in loyalty
i wonder how hard his punches are
is this all there is on speed king?
speed king sucks!
@burnt quiver, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
thank u made in heaven
speed king have cool facial expression
he just goes :O
it's always like "UHHHHH"
Still waiting for him to be drawn the same way twice
this is when they got the branch
@ocean mirage, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !
i wonder what sound this thing makes
SPEEEEEEEYEAAAAAA
Meraryaryaaaaa
it seemed like it was trying to say "speed" when it first did it's stand cry of speeeeeeey speeeeeyaaaaaa
Does anyone else think that Speed King looks like Laputa?
SpeedPog
I tried to find stuff on forums but didn't see anything
There was this one blog post where someone reviewed Ojiro's Return and constantly called Ojiro and Jobin scumbags
Speed :D
Unfortunately, it does not look like a pog
SHUT
😔

:ihateu:

:iloveu:
Quick reminder that araki draws traditionally
So he can't copy and paste speed king
You could say it's traced but the sizes vary
Thats not how any artist designs a character
What do you mean by that
Ooh I see
I just scrolled up
I was referring to the guy that said that speed king looks copy and pasted few days ago
And said it's lazy work
speed king didn’t change his look he got goggles
In chapter 96, they reffer to the head doctor as Head Doctor, without "the" before.
Head Doctor is a song by Snoop Dogg, so perhaps that's gonna be the Stand's name since we already have Doggystyle
the tusk things that speed king has turn from square shaped to more rounded
Urban Guerilla looks pretty boring in color.
doremifasolati do and urban guerilla was such a wack fight imo
I don't think Araki has succeeded in making an underground fight look good yet
Though that's probably not the main problem you have with the fight
yeah they go from one thing to another instead of showing exactly what happend
main problem i have with dorem and urban guerilla fight is i just didnt like it and i thought it was kinda boring, even if you like it its still wack tho
Secco was pretty good
Doremi etc. is a cool concept but little plus shapes that hurt you? Come on Araki
What's wrong with that
The Secco fight was really cool but when they were running through the ground and stuff... that didn't look good to me
You could go into detail of why you don't like it
I can't really; it's just my taste in soil visualisation
Soil visualization
The fight is amazing mainly just because of Rai.
@edgy mortar
Wheres that one piece of art
@old marlin, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 42 !
The new chapter cover references like a geniune piece of art or somethin
Magritte's Golconda
Magritte also has a different piece of work that's specifically his iconic black suited bowlar hat guy, but only showing his back
Where have i heard this one
smh pinning that but not pinning the multiple times i've talked about this painting ever since the volume cover came out
betrayed, i feel
Where
Golconda was also referenced in Great Days during the first hayato sequence
Whats golconda
Golconda is some place i think in india, it was a diamond mine town
isnt this an album cover for something
that's the actual painting, but not golconda
magritte uses himself as a model for the black suit men in his works
JAN WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO
I thought this was the master message you were talking about
Ah I didn't realise that painting was well trodden ground in this channel 
I HAVE NO MASTER MESSAGE, ALL MY TALKS ABOUT IT WHERE SEPARATE MESSAGES
Your fault then.
Anyone know the reason for the change to Meryayryaaaa? Is he saying a different word, or is it a different way to read the kanji? Or something else?
Seems to be something new entirely
@white beacon Dont remind me of that it made me so sad for him
This is the speed king power upgrade we were all waiting for
yeah "speeeeeyyy = speed" to "mera = fire"
Ooooooooooo nice
This
what if speed king name just changes to heat king
no
what if speed king powerup is consistent design
Something's impossible if the mangaka can't grant it
I can grant anythinh
Yeah I think heat king is probably gonna be the localized name. Either that or fast king or something... fire king, maybe.
People suggest emperor something but I think they're gonna keep the 'king' part since that's the point of all of the names
Heat King is good tbh
yeah i think heat king or something similar would be the name
why would it be speed tho
Because he speeds the heat
We're talking localized names, right? It most likely would not be 'speed' then.
Wait, so why did they get to keep that one?
Idk
Paisley Park is called Flower Park lol
decent one
i mean not ba d
thats pretty good
some localized names are horrible
someone on youtube did a tier list for them
go watch "Ranking the Terrible JoJo Localization Names" by yakkocmn
for all names just like turn "silver chariot" into "silver chario t"
let's see them sue that
King No
King non existent
king
tfw when u want to hear jobin's stand cry but you're still halfway jojolion 😔
yeah jjl just finished so it’ll be an easy read
jobin no plz
im too lazy to read
maybe if i wait just long enough i wont need to wait for new chapters
It's like Johnny Joestar says, you don't hunger enough. You're not a true fan.
catch up quickly so you can be in 1-month-waiting-hell every new chapter
it's very fun
Feel the pain with the rest of us
i hope head doctor's stand or head doctor or what ever it turns out being doesnt end up being inconsistent like king crimson
The one with Kira's mother, I suppose.
So like chapter 2 or something lol
No, the one where she comes in, saves him and she gets the disease, too.
I'll admit, I stopped reading when I lost track.
And now I kinda need to catch up quickly.
Yeah.
93 actually probably.
Yeah I just meant that Holly was introduced pretty early. It was a joke.
Well, the b/w is an eyesore.
Eh, it's really not that bad, is it? You'll get used to it.
Ok, but lemme just ask this.
Joshus hair gets fixed
Do you really wanna miss out on that
What the heck is Joubin's intention rn, and who's the head doctor?
Jobin's intention makes sense. HD... we don't know for sure yet, but he's fucking cool.
good joke
Joubin wants the fruit to cure the curse
For all we know, the HD is bad...?
Once joshu eats the fruit he’ll become buff and unlock requiem for his stand and then he’ll punish those who’ve wronged hom

once joshu eats the fruit it will fix his hair
^
Handsome Joshu.
Turns out Joshu was the reincarnation of Jesus
what happens if he fuses with the corpse then
Ultimate Form Joshu
origin form joshus
Joshu: Love Train
Alternate Universe Joshu
joshu has 2 stands, he is main villain
@ancient dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !
JoshuJoshulion
Joshus the main protagonist
no
Joshu and Josuke vs Jobin would be pretty cool
Especially because Josuke hasn't been in a chapter since December (jan issue)
Jobin can just kill em instantly
There was no Joshu vs Jobin unfortunately, and now that HD is there, there probably won't be.
If there's Josuke, there's probably Rai too
The problem is that he's not
Where
Mamezuku should just eat a rokakakajakakakakakaka to get his fingers back
well acshully it's called locacaca 6251
Is there a reason why that name sounds familiar?
Because 6251 is part of the title of one of the JoJo artbooks?
it was
I want the artbooks but holy shit they go for a lot
I also want the first issue of Shonen Jump with chapter 1 of PB but that goes for around $400 online
We are this close to a tooru stand reveallll
But it makes a lot of sense now that the HD is everywhere just because it’s a mark
Remember when we thought Tooru was confirmed evil because we believed he was talking to HD because of a mistranslation lol
i dont remember that, can you tell me what the mistranslation was
Yeah i don’t remember that either
Trying to find it
Jojo and mistranslations are like Brothers
Well based on that image I sent, a rough translation is “I’m listening to yasuho... you are going there, right?”
This was made by @minor ore
But what he actually says is "Yes, I hear you Yasuho-chan..." and then "...I'll be right there."
So we all thought he was talking to HD lol
have there been other big mistranslations like that
I know part 5 was bad for a while
Well this isn't a big mistranslation it was just Helios on this discord server who attempted to translate it quickly I guess.
ah
It's translated properly in chapter 96.
It's just that the raws leaked early and they weren't translated soo.
Tooru is hella sus so
Now at least
Well okay
He was super suspicious before but now even more so
Man likes hamburber
His pause is concerning and im just ready for him to betray them
Its gonna be great
Tooru's death is going to be great.
doopo, i know its coming, but don't remind me 😔
I just hope he has a cool stand
We've been seeing that cool stand for multiple chaptas
I don't think so but ok 😳
we may dissagree but i still ly
I don't think the HD is Tooru's stand
Yeah I don't know, I still believe it's the HD. I mean, we know the Head Doctor exists, and he's been hyped up so much now.
and other people see him, like at the Medical conference
and aren't plagued by calamity
Yeah yeah, we know he exists.
someone was saying it was a physical stand form like yesterday
but I think that's silly
Yeah, but I must admit that if Tooru is not the user, I'm not sure what role he'll play.
I don't see another "small" fight happening right now, and it seems like we're getting close to the end.
still hoping he's just a red herring
@vocal mason, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 14 !
I think it would be a good twist
and I've thought he's harmless for months now
but I'm the minority opinion
Maybe, yeah. It wouldn't be a new thing since the same happened with the Yasuho and Norisuke thing.
do we think there were any rock humans in sbr?
We went over this already and there aren't any other horse riders that did not have a name that's just a reference.
Yeah, im p sure that the hd projection is just a projection of the real one
Yep.
what reference
Uh. Music reference?
no the rock human thing
Yo Yo Ma
Yo mama
That’s gonna be a sick anime moment
@hoary sun, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
Joubin gonna die
He probably thought about it
I'm kind of confused as to what Mitsuba meant by this
does she mean everyone affected by the stand?
or the fruit?
Everyone affected by the stand will destroy themselves
oh i see i see
I guess Jobin's not affected by it so he can't see it?
or he's just oblivious
No hes just not seen or been told of the HD so he doesnt really know anything about it
When the Lion is JoJo I dunno haven't seen it yet
Are there 2 fruits
Theres the original one
The grafted one
And locacaca 6251 which is the original but doesnt exchange vital parts
Like 2 fruits on the plant
That jobin has
Wait
One of those is the grafted one right
yeah i was confused there
Oops*
What happened there
I’m rereading 83 to 96
How did he appear on the bench like that
When tooru pointed
I’m really convinced it’s tooru that behind this
That happens after the first calamity tho, when jousuke bumps into the stretcher
The HD is the stand
The HD is giving a lecture a crowd though
He also appears inside a photo frame
the HD is in 3 places at once as far as we know
It just doesn’t make sense for tooru’s stand to show the HD when the HD is an actual person
I'm pretty sure that's the case, but of course I could be wrong. But with him giving the lecture I'm almost certain the head doctor is not just the stand.
dont rock humans take others identities
could it be related to that
Mamezuku flat out says that the HD is a stand but he could be wrong
but tooru literally summoned him
if u reread 84
I belive Mamezuku
same
rn I think the HD is a stand
HOWEVER
there is still the mystery of wtf this stand is
it looks like tooru?
the sun eyes
and swirls
im unsure tho
maybe
prediction though
this stand is called "Black Hole Sun"
the blinds in front of its eyes remind me of the hand
Same.
toorus dialogue gives me a clue what the ability could be like he is the main source and sends out waves of karma that form the shape of the doctor
Tooru saying he is coming to the estate
and as soon as he said it
jobin and mitsuba get attacked
it just lines up always too well with him

I think Tooru is definitely up to no good
he had those eyes
he adores yasuho
so thats a thing
He is but I doubt he's the user of the HD stand.
I still think he's just a red herring
could be
he called her a goddess so hes gonna help
WAIT OMG
tooru called yasuho a goddess
who else called a very important woman to the sotry
That's your point, right?
very

twitter theories are kinda meh
when was the last time a good guy had these eyes and was about to do something good
he looks dead
like he has the typical dead eyes
he's not dead tho
villains tend to have weird eyes
like diavolo
and dopio
Yeah but he's not the user of the fucking HD stand. I don't believe it. Head Doctor is so fucking cool and Tooru is just uncool.
I think the HD is part of tsurugis evolution shit
i think it is very probably that HD is similar to F.F in that he is the stand and the user at once
I just think Tooru is gonna get up to some tom voolery
my theory is that the stand is electricity or some energy that charges objects around it
and makes em collide into people
huh?
the HD
sorry but that makes no sense
No it makes a little bit sense.
thats not how electricity works
no it could be some energy>
It's static electricity, that's how it works kinda?
Also what do you mean "how can he go into walls then"
like Karmic energy
That's irrelevant to the colliding thing.
i have a theory
That has nothing to do with the colliding. That's just the illusion part of it.
Or whatever it is.
what if the headocter kiled the whole higashkata familiy and not tsurugi
Dude, I fucking know.
we know
But that's irrelevant to the colliding thing.
so how does electricity do that?
oh
calfpie was saying energy or electrcity
what does energy/electricity got to do with going into objects
Yes, I know. But he can already do the karma/colliding thing which doesn't have anything to do with the illusion walking in frames.
Yeah.
okay
But it's not that weird, that's already how it works.
No it's just calfpie's theory.
Karmatic harming energy
He doesn't seem to be wrong, he proved his theory.
tooru may have explained the stand
in some way
Mamezuku's exposition seemed to be Araki basically talking to us
and also mitsuba
so its 2 viewpoints
yeah
that have different takes on it
Araki uses Mitsuba to tell us shit a lot
There was also Rai's first explanation but that one is probably still relevant.
I think their takes a pretty consistent
they both say that HD is the stand
that we are sure about
what was his first explaination again
ye
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 24 !
yeah yeah
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 17 !
depending on ur karma
I think Karma might affect how much damage is done
yes
like, the murderer guy
he instantly killed himself
because he has no bad karma
didn't he get damaged in 91
well I don't think Tsurugi ever pursued the HD
well yea he did kill that one rockhuman
also Tsurugui has the rock disease rn
mitsuba or joubin didnt either
how did he turn into a paper crane to a normal human
and now back again?
Jobin just tried to punch the HD
Stand magic
it was the last panel
hes just warping
speedy boy is gonna be... dmg
yea joubin is going to die
Jobin has some bad fucking Karma
he literally did the most direct pursue
OH YEA
jobins carma
werewr
karma*
are you okay

how did he pursue the headocter?
he literally just tried to punch him
punching him?
bruh
Jobin is not going to just die right now, I really don't think so.
take a big blow
he's probably gonna suffer some heavy wounds
he doesn't have much longer to live
neither does the whole of higashkata family
so we are gonna have 5 characters close to death
exept tsurugi
and need the fruit
except*
i doubt hes going to help yasuo
yep

bro kick yasuo out of the part it ruins the joke
shes wanted the fruit since urban guerilla
Well. She wants it for herself now.
she is being selfish for once
which is really interesting
she may betray josuke after he betrayed her
be like kaato dont let your life be decided by men
Yeah I don't like how Yasuho and Tooru are seemingly going to be working together for a thing that is not in Josuke's interest. That might be what Tooru will be doing these next chapters, since he is NOT the user of HD stand.
how do you know hes not the user?
we will see how he will react to the HD being there
The HD is probably the user.
tsurugi dawg
But he is also the stand. Yes? We never see the stand's face, but we do see the HD's face. Therefore both exist but the stand is the fake. Yes?
notice how tooru didn't want to go the the higashikata estate himself until yasuho mentioned she can "heal her injuries"
he wants the fruit too
mm tasty looking fruit
Doesn't look like a tomato but ok
awesome
the original rokaka looked like a tomato
i-
we know Tsurugi gets better at least
cuz of the flashforward
and that tooru, HD, mitsuba and jobin are nowhere
and yasuho
and the family is normal?
and thats before the harvest

And that they forget something. SO. New ability. Maybe it's Tooru's actually?
it could be that
i'm still disapointed on how we dont see any antichrist stuff
backstories happen when character is about to die mostly
could tooru be wanting the fruit so he gets praise from the HD
or like take the fame for himself
hm. i think its the first one
he prob wants higher status from the headocter
so he can be know in a positive way around the world
i dont think he has any intention of helping yasuho its more the fruit
she basically told him its there
ye. You can see how he doesn't look worried at all when she tells Tooru that shes dying
he is like welp coming
Well that chapter was fucking awesome
ik
no
But is he aware of it? Maybe and he wants it for himself, but dies to prove the HD's new ability that he gains because he eats the Rokakaka? Every part has someone getting a new ability at some point, so I think it's pretty likely. Especially near the end.
I feel like HD's stand is gonna overtake D4C as my favorite
im jk this chapter was amazing
There's a song by "Endless" called "Calamity"
woah
Yeah it's fcuking amazing btw. Probably not the reference but yes.
Endless calamity is a good ass chapter title
a whole lotta love
but holy hell he is like....the DEFINITION of menacing

how do i pronounce yournname
also I think the stand we saw in the Hospital is Tooru's
Is it calf pie or like calf pee
he is an inter-dimentional demonic entity
like DOOMGUY

or Joshuu
hd seen a mario odyssey video and said yeah im doing that now
calfπ* btw
i think there is a head doctor but i also think tooru is making illusions for everyone
i see thank you
nahh
idk I used to think it was tooru's stand
but the illusion is an exact image of HD
@odd monolith, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !
Im sticking with tooru until its answered
the stand with the kars blades is so cool
bro its too boneless
could it be some dimension cutting blades or what
Good.
wait what
armblades
jobin motivation ig
well it was the backstory with joubin
well jobins backstory but that?
Yeah well you're wrong, we'll fucking see.
unless she pulls some shit in the next few chapters
why does she have such an op stand
idk it was just an arc i guess
Whatever you say
kaato arc
what fuccin armblade stand
also that she shipped the rock human
are you not caught up tango
Oh shit you're andy, sorry I didn't recognize your pfp since well obviously you changed it. I love you but I don't agree.
Also you're wrong but 😘
oh no I just forgot the arm blade detail
Bro and look it doesnt have legs. It looks like one of those automatic vac
automatic vacumes
i feel like the stand of the HD that attacked mitsuba and jobin started as soon as tooru ended the call with yasuho and headed to the estate

its so obvious in a way but it could be just a red herring
cause everything tooru does lines up with HD somehow
I think the illusions and the hospital stand are different stands
hospital stand is tooru's, it was keeping an eye on Josuke/Rai
illusion is an automatic from HD, he just lives his life while it protects him






