#jojolion

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minor ore
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Not really

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He is protected by his stand

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So probably he won't age at all

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But he also might die of old age

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Which can be beneficial to him

white beacon
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his stand protects him from external dangers, not make him live forever

minor ore
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Perhaps

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But hopefully he dies

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He can beat up wekapipo in heaven lmao

ebon rampart
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the most tragic death was probably wekapipo

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i actually felt bad for him

upper knoll
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Dunno maybe I misremember how 20th Century Boy works but my headcanon is that Magent wont die until he deactivates it

minor ore
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Same

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Wekapipo was a good guy until he betrayed magenta

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But still a good man

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Didn't deserve it

upper knoll
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So even if he ages nothing will happen, but hes well above 100 y/o now so probably the moment he deactivates 20th century boy he dies

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like, the instant

lost slate
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He stopped thinking

minor ore
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Yeah

upper knoll
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so he wont be able to deactivate it 🤪

lost slate
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All he'll do forever is just use 20cb

minor ore
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Until he gets fished up

lost slate
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Not even the hd can defeat him

minor ore
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The water of the river will flow all the way to morioh

lost slate
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Hmm

minor ore
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And he will be fished up

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And team up with gappy

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How does that sound

lost slate
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Could MM use 20cb to chase after the head doctor?

kind owlBOT
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@lost slate, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 13 !

minor ore
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Maybe

lost slate
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Like he activates it and josuke just throws him towards the hd

minor ore
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LMAO

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Nice

lost slate
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Sort of like Jotaro and Iggy vs Ndoul

minor ore
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Yeah but magenta is a tall guy

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How he got grab him and throw him

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OH WAIT

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he can put him inside a bubble

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And just yeet him

ebon rampart
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i like how we get the privellege to talk about the sbr in a jjl channel lol

minor ore
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Heck yea

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Am I the only one who thinks highway star users S tattoo has the same look as toorus S

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Perhaps!

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And the tattoo on his chin is the same

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💀💀

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Oops I didn’t crop the google tag whatever

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It’s probably the way araki draws his S but it’s really similar

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SPEED KING

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IT SAYS SPEED KING OMG

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BRO HOW DID I NOT SEE THAT

thorn pier
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Wait

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what's that picture

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Is that

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the guy from part 4?

minor ore
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Yeah

thorn pier
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Huh

young meteor
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That's Yuuya

minor ore
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I'm so surprise holy shit

upper knoll
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Both highway star and speed king are songs from deep purple

minor ore
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WOAH

upper knoll
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So like

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What's the surprise

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The same artist got referenced twice on one character

minor ore
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I didn't notice the speed king in Yuya 'S hing

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Thing

young meteor
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Jobin is Yuuya's counterpart

minor ore
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YES

upper knoll
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Highway stars counterpart is however not speed king but Blue Hawaii 😔

minor ore
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Oh yeah that wprks

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Works

young meteor
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Whatever

white beacon
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Blue Hawaiiway Star

minor ore
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Woah

edgy mortar
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Huh

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If you think about it

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Norisuke is yuya/ abbacchio

minor ore
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Dr. Head is the main villain, full stop

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

white beacon
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he's the leader of the rokakaka organization, but we don't really know his motives or intentions or even personality or almost anything about him

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so it's hard to say really

minor ore
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NO! HE IS THE MAIN VILLAIN

thorn pier
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Dr. Head. What.

white beacon
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reminds me of how Wu's actual name could literally be Doctor Wu

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since his tags just have Doctor on them

thorn pier
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But it's Wu Tomoki.

white beacon
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yeah, that was before his name was revealed

thorn pier
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Yeah.

white beacon
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like, i really thought this guy was Dr. Doctor

thorn pier
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Dr. Wu was hot.

edgy mortar
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I'm really disappointed that soft and wet doesn't have crazy diamond ability

thorn pier
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What. Why would it?

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Would you want a protagonist with the same ability as an earlier one?

edgy mortar
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I mean it would be cool

lost slate
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I mean

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We already got that with Killer Queen

edgy mortar
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Araki could do the same ability but with a twist

lost slate
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And The World in sbr

edgy mortar
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When the bubble breaks it could either be fixed or destroyed

thorn pier
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Yeah but Killer Queen was used... how much exactly? It'd be boring, would it not?

lost slate
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I feel like complicating S&W wouldn't be too good

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It's a punch ghost with the ability of bubbles

thorn pier
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It's already too complicated lol.

lost slate
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They're just bubbles

edgy mortar
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I mean we don't know how far sw can go

thorn pier
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Yeah.

lost slate
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That may or may not be able to steal abstract and physical properties

thorn pier
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Yeah. It CAN steal physical objects. We know that. But it can't steal something that is too big.

white beacon
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no no, it can

thorn pier
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Yeah well it can't steal a fucking building.

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Yes?

white beacon
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it fit's at least a person in it

thorn pier
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I know.

white beacon
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and that's generally bigger than what josuke usually steals

thorn pier
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Yeah well I doubt he can steal a building.

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But it was never shown that he can't.

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But about the abstract things... yeah it's really unclear.

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He can steal sound. And friction. And maybe sight?

white beacon
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yeah can steal sight sound and friction yess

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but hasn't really used it lately

exotic cobalt
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He make the water in someone's body drain out

kind owlBOT
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@exotic cobalt, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

thorn pier
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Yeah I know about the sound thing, but it's possible that it was retconned? I don't know. It just seems like it would've been useful in some situations.

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And I know similar things have been retconned before.

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Apparently.

white beacon
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oh along with this, i think "steal" is a word that can cause confusion. "store" would be a better word, he can store abstract and concreate things in his bubbles, so it's not awkward to say he can steal concrete object, especially if he's just putting it inside a bubble

thorn pier
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Yeah.

white beacon
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i wouldn't say it's retconned, because josuke hasn't said anything about s/w not being able to take an abstract thing, nor has anything happened that would provide more on the thought that he can't, rather than he didn't do it

minor ore
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I think that ability is gone tho it was supposed to represent him trying to steal one of his components identities but now he accepted himself so he has a different more offensive ability from the latest we’ve seen of S&W

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Like josuke was able to make the bubble explode

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That’s a trait of killer queen

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Maybe the stands ability solely depends on the change of heart Idek

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That dialogue by tsurugi could mean so many things like jobins change of heart with killing his dad and his stand changing, tsurugi himself having a change of heart and developing a new ability or josuke which I doubt

near cedar
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A bit late but Kira would be an idiot to try touching Josuke with the first bomb

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Josuke would brake both his hands before he can activate it

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Killer Queen can 1 shot you, it has the strength to punch trough a normal person's chest

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And erase you if it uses the first, second or third bomb properly

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King Crimson can one shot you

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The World can one shot you

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Star Platinum can one shot you (it punched a donut in DIO)

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Many stands can one shot you

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Clash can one shot you

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Aerosmith can drop a bomb on you etc etc etc

golden elk
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killer queen had mediocre strength

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it had good speed and precision

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but its strength as a stand was pretty weak, it relied on its bombs to attack

lost slate
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You can see that in KQ vs Star Platinum or Crazy Diamond

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Without the bombs, it would be a one-sided beatdown

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Everything else is just way too fast

fluid vessel
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kq in part 8 tho NONONONONO

lost slate
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It could be called wasted potential

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But you want to know what's really wasted potential?

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Josefumi's Soft & Wet

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He doesn't use it that much in his only 'fight'

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once with bubbles and the other time for an ora rush

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the rest of it is just him

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beating some brothers up

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That whole sequence is pretty cool though

fluid vessel
vast echo
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How do people like joshu

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Like

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What?

minor ore
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he saved yasuho wym

young meteor
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He's our lord and saviour

upper knoll
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How do people not like Joshu

young meteor
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^

minor ore
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probably didnt read the latest chapter

white beacon
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that was just one good thing he did

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actually, at this point it's still implied that he saved yasuho

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his feet barely looked like it moved, just a bit of those squiggly lines outside of it

thorn pier
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He definitely saved her.

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Why would you think he didn't?

supple totem
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where was it you could buy the colored volume chapters?

kind owlBOT
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@supple totem, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !

supple totem
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in jappanese

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the newest volumes that isn't translated yet

grizzled pilot
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nowhere

supple totem
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false.

exotic cobalt
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True

supple totem
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someone ones sent me a link to a place where you could buy them

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once*

white beacon
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the coloured volume chapters are not available as a physical copy

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they are only released on this website

supple totem
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I told you!!

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thank u Jan

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nvm. It doesnt have the newest volumes of colored

white beacon
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it's the official jojo-digital website, technically it has the latest coloured versions

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which is volume17 of jjl

supple totem
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on my screen it only says its up to volume 11

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i guess i was right that there is the newest colored chapters

white beacon
kind owlBOT
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@white beacon, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 28 !

white beacon
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volume 17, if you look to the top-right, there is no option for volume18, thus 17 is the latest for the coloured jojolion

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what you saw that was only up to 11 were the regular b/w volumes, which should be beyond 11

supple totem
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can't wait to see the color of the headocters stand

white beacon
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the homepage just doesn't show the other volumes somehow

supple totem
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i c

lofty matrix
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Originally thought that Josuke would have crazy diamond but this time in this universe he can heal himself but so far I like Soft & Wet amazing stand very powerful sometimes

vocal mason
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Soft & Wet is a very powerful stand

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Creative ability and he can punch good

lofty matrix
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Amazing

whole field
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usually the best combination in jojo

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have a cool ability + punch really hard

near cedar
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Wut about GE

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It has a cool ability but doesn't punch very hard

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Then your senses go berserk and you die of a heart attack from the pain xD

thorn pier
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Golden Experience does punch hard.

twilit marsh
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If it only kept the ability it had when giorno fought bruno

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To make you go berserk or smthg

thorn pier
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Giorno would've been invincible.

near cedar
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...

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It did

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Heck

twilit marsh
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Like when he fought ciocolatta

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He just punched

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No life energy

near cedar
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That's why Ciocolata died

thorn pier
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What?

near cedar
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It is passive

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Every punch does that

thorn pier
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Nobody ever said that, I'm sure.

near cedar
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The overloading your senses thing

thorn pier
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Yes. I am certain nobody said he always did that.

near cedar
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Consider the following

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Every beat down but in super slow motion

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Is that as fun?

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No it ain't

thorn pier
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That is irrelevant.

twilit marsh
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Yea

thorn pier
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Maybe GE just didn't do it.

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Yes?

twilit marsh
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xForts made a video abt this

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I know from there

near cedar
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Hmm Giorno who is disgusted with Ciociolata would sent him to the afterlife without first causing as much pain as inhumanity possible?

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Fuck no

twilit marsh
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Well i saw part 5 like 4 months ago so maybe i don t remember corectly

near cedar
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Life energy overload causes pain to be perceived super slooooowly which is what he did to Ciocolata

thorn pier
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We don't know for sure.

near cedar
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And it doesn't work if it hits the stand

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Only if it hits the user

twilit marsh
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But i think araki forgot that GE had the ability to trasfer excessive life energy into human

near cedar
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Also also take your xforst and throw him in the trash

twilit marsh
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But idk

near cedar
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Araki. Never forgot anything

thorn pier
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Yeah I don't think anything was forgotten. It was just 'retconned' in favor of a more interesting ability.

near cedar
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That is a stale dumbass meme

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It wasn't retconed either

thorn pier
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That's why I did the ''

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It's just not used again.

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That is all.

near cedar
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Oh didn't see

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Let's agree to this then we are not showed wether or not it was used again maybe it was maybe it wasn't

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That work for u?

thorn pier
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Yeah, I mean it was never mentioned or anything again, so we can't know for sure, but it is maybe more likely that it wasn't used.

kind owlBOT
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@thorn pier, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 18 !

icy bluff
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Finally Jojo fans using logic.

kind owlBOT
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@icy bluff, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

ebon rampart
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jojo fans use logic?

twilit marsh
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Full logic rn

ebon rampart
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ok you’re the smarted jojo fan i’ve seen

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i’ll listen to you

thorn pier
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I am the smartest Jojo fan you'll see.

ebon rampart
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but you were saying ff isnt sexy

thorn pier
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Yeah. There's the proof that I am the smartest Jojo fan.

distant juniper
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Guys would you rather save adobe flash or yashuo from dying

ebon rampart
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adobe flash

thorn pier
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So you are saying that Yasuho will die, or that she is in the situation she is currently in in Jojolion?

restive kelp
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@twilit marsh he never lost it

simple kraken
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if yasuho dies I quit

restive kelp
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idrc

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unfun stand

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thot

thorn pier
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Paisley Park is weird.

restive kelp
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^

thorn pier
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Remember when you could choose between 2 objects that would help you?

twilit marsh
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What

restive kelp
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doopo yeah lol

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that was fun

simple kraken
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banana peel

thorn pier
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Yeah. For 2 arcs.

restive kelp
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now its just 📞

simple kraken
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gos

thorn pier
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hack

simple kraken
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gps

restive kelp
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hacking isnt even a stand power

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thats like getting the ability to cut wet grass

thorn pier
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It is though. Paisley Park hacks but without having to hack.

simple kraken
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omnipotent gps

restive kelp
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paisley park would be a lot better if she could do this

simple kraken
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shigechi could probably do something like that

restive kelp
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yea

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good stand not smart user

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good user

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too naive

simple kraken
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yeah but he made money

restive kelp
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shigechi saddest part of 4

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😢

simple kraken
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I cheered when shigechi died

restive kelp
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why

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he just wanted to protect his mama and papa

simple kraken
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he was annoying

thorn pier
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Shigechi's death was probably the saddest part of DiU, yeah.

restive kelp
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so is all middle schoolers

thorn pier
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When he mentioned his mama and papa... that was sad.

simple kraken
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That was sad yeah

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But I didn't like him

restive kelp
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he was just a regular middle schooler, but with a heart of gold

simple kraken
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as a character

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um

thorn pier
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Not really.

restive kelp
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yeah, middle schoolers are annoying

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and greedy

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and boastful

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so its not like he was worse then his peers

simple kraken
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and also remember that time when he tried to pay for that random woman

restive kelp
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yeah

simple kraken
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idk, mob is a middle schooler

restive kelp
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every1 did that as a kid

simple kraken
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from mob Psycho 100

thorn pier
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How old was he again? I don't even remember.

restive kelp
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if u were in 6-8 and u got a large sum of $, i know a lot of guy friends who would do that

thorn pier
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I read the entire thing though.

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Like 11 or 12?

restive kelp
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13 i thin

simple kraken
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Mob was an 8th grader

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shigechi

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Uh also 8th grader

restive kelp
thorn pier
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He's 14 apparently.

restive kelp
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oh

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so 8th

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yeah 8th graders will do anything to get laid

simple kraken
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Ngl I though shigechi wasn't human when I first saw him

thorn pier
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Yeah he's fucking ugly, but his death is one of the saddest parts of Jojo.

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The saddest is in part 7 though.

simple kraken
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I got pretty sad at abbachios death

thorn pier
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And by saddest I don't necessarily mean sad, just that that part touched me.

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Yeah. That was mostly due to Narancia's reaction though.

restive kelp
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abbachios was the least sad for me

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besides narancia yea

simple kraken
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Nah for me it was the cop at the end

thorn pier
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Narancia's death though... oof.

restive kelp
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they portrayed it horribly tho

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it wasnt all the sudden

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u were like oh she dies

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then 10 seconds later it shows the body

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it would be a lot better to be like abbachios

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u didnt expect it until u saw it

simple kraken
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Narancias death wasn't that great

thorn pier
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Wrong.

restive kelp
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agreed

simple kraken
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The death flags were super obvious

restive kelp
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^

thorn pier
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Narancia's death was great at setting the mood.

restive kelp
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thats what im talking about

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we needed it to be less like caeser and more like ab

simple kraken
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"I'm gonna go back to school" like who tf says that unless they're specifically gonna die

restive kelp
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^

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ALSO CUZ THEY SHOWED NARANCIA MISSING AND BLOOD

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then revealed the death 10 seconds later

thorn pier
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You didn't notice Narancia missing at first. I would bet money on that.

restive kelp
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they literally said narancia?

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where did u go?

thorn pier
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Yes, but that is when it's revealed that he dies.

restive kelp
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she*

thorn pier
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I mean before.

restive kelp
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lol

thorn pier
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That is what you meant, right?

restive kelp
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yea

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cuz it would be better if they showed the skip

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then it panned up

simple kraken
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Seeing bruno just keep degenerating was pretty sad too

thorn pier
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Maybe, but I didn't know what was gonna happen before I saw it in the anime, and so it was just annoying to have to wait to find out what was gonna happen to him.

lofty matrix
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I can’t wait to hear it in the dub

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I can see Rai dying in Jojolion

honest blaze
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Doubt rai is gonna die

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He had a close call that scared people, don't think hes actually gonna die

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Tbh a death I can see happening is joshu or gappy if ima be honest

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Okay maybe not gappy but joshu

simple kraken
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I definitely see Rai dying

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In every part at least 1 jobro dies

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So it'll probably be rai

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And joshu will also likely die

honest blaze
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Part 4

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I see just joshu for its main death

simple kraken
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Part 8 definitely isn't like part 4

tame tide
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rai could just be in jail the rest of the part

simple kraken
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Yeah true

lofty matrix
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Yeah true

willow pendant
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Yeah true

daring bear
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Yeah true

queen fox
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that'd be bizarre ngl

kind owlBOT
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@queen fox, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

young meteor
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Untrue

lofty matrix
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He probably could escape

old marlin
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I wonder if Rai could make a Garrote

lost slate
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12 days till the harvest of the New JoJolion

old marlin
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14 at the least

lost slate
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It comes out on the 17th

old marlin
minor ore
still dirge
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finally caught up and finished steel ball run

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should i read jojolion

old marlin
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yea

young meteor
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Of course

simple kraken
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Yes

ocean mirage
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there can be no wrong, reading more jojo

edgy mortar
minor ore
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Half of the family has arrows in their outfit

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Mitsuba, Joshu, Haato

young meteor
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Well, only 3 of them

minor ore
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Half I guess lmao

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Lemme change that

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Kaato also has arrows I think

young meteor
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Nah, she doesn't

minor ore
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Interesting...

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But the real question id

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Is

edgy mortar
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No

minor ore
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How do they keep the same outfit from their childhood to the current time

edgy mortar
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Buy one

minor ore
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No

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Cartoon character mindset

white beacon
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it's the same answer as how do they wear the same thing everyday

minor ore
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Which is

edgy mortar
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Well gappy is self explanatory because he has no dresses other than his sailor outfit

old marlin
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Jousuke's just cool like that

edgy mortar
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Only if yasuho has three freeze...
Gappy would sleep well

minor ore
lofty matrix
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Isn’t almost every character in Jojo have the same outfit since they were young some of them

minor ore
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Yasuho has had a ton of outfit changes

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💅she’s the best anyways

old marlin
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Name one

minor ore
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Her crop top going to a sweater thing

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Her rose skirt going striped

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Her being in that all Jo-Jos dress

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Like araki loves changing her clothes

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In covers that is

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I feel like she’s his dress up doll

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i-

old marlin
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Thats no different with anyone else in his new age covers

minor ore
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Kinda yea gappy always remains the same maybe with a recolor

old marlin
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She wears the same outfit in the actual manga

minor ore
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She changes from the sweater to a crop top i think

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But a lot of designs had subtle changes like that

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It’s not something major but I’m mainly talking about the covers because other characters remain consistent with a recolor

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guys

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DMQ kira = HD

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Isn’t he dead

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I don’t think that’s possible seeing that the head doctor is probably an illusion

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Especially with that volume cover

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but the outfit are similar so theory confirmed

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If you read up on the painting it’s matches up

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God the art is so good

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Tbh at this point I think it’s all tooru

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you see the issue is

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I cant read it

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yeah its a common theory that HD is tooru's stand

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but we've seen 2 different and mysterious stands

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so doubtful

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2?

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Isn’t it only the sun spiral one

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What’s the second

old marlin
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We've only seen one

minor ore
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lemme check again

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actually im too lazy

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so yeah we've seen one

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Toorus goal is to separate yasuho from the group and he did it

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Remember he drove her to the estate

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what a yandere

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Ik

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He also seems to summon the head doctor when it’s convenient and he needs to distract the group

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yes!

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so the stand can transform into people?

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I just wonder where he is since I think we see his car outside of the estate

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And he drove yasuho there

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But he is nowhere to be found

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Guess who’s there tho

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Another thing that imo supports the theory is that the head doctor only turns around at yasuho

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but then again-

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I feel like it’s some way of deactivating his stand

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the head doctor harmed yasuho

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Yea he chopped her arm off

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I rly though she was dead

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She might be doe but I think at the end of the chapter it said that she escaped safely

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so its still confusing cuz if he loved her he would've helped her not just chop her arm off lmao

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Imagine gappy and her reuniting one missing an arm and one an eye

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LOL

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that's nice

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Yasuho was seriously betrayed by gappy

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Feel bad for her

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No one trusts her

thorn pier
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Yeah the HD also hurt Yasuho with the car.

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Remember?

minor ore
#

Oh yea

#

It’s weird

#

i dont remember lol

#

But he only turns around at her

#

That’s the weird thing

#

gappy himself feels betrayed by yasuho

#

when he checked her phone

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and uh

#

you know

#

Oh yea that was so rip

#

And then her and tooru being forced together

#

Because tooru was trying to get the group away from yasuho

thorn pier
#

But wait, wasn't Mamezuku the one who said Jobin had the branch in the beginning?

#

Or did he just say he was suspicious?

minor ore
#

Ugh tooru is so fishy tho and I don’t mean only his fish roll hair

#

he theorized about it

#

I’m not sure but Mamezuku is just explaining it from his view point

#

Like mitsuba

#

It may not be that way but it’s just their perception

#

That’s an interesting thing about the latest chapters

#

It’s like everyone has a theory on it

#

Mitsuba especially

#

This is all mind fuck

#

Like part 4 was supposed to be a mystery part but jojolion is actually 10x better on that element

#

Jojolion could basically go anywhere

#

It could still be yasuho in that body bag

#

This ark reminds me of the ark where Kira beats up koichi and jotaro

thorn pier
#

Why is that?

#

Because they are finding out who the villain is?

minor ore
#

Well isn’t yasuho like koichis counterpart in some way and she also got severely ingured by the head doctor along with jobin sane could be said for josuke earlier on

#

Also yes they are figuring out the villain

supple totem
#

yasuho is yasuho

ebon rampart
#

yasuhoe

supple totem
#

yasuho is yasuhoe

minor ore
#

Yes but she has traits of the original I get the let the characters be their own but this universe is clearly based heavily on part 4-6

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 12 !

minor ore
#

The new universe counterparts share some traits with the originals but definitely different

ebon rampart
#

nice job

minor ore
#

We also had basically the same ark in jojolion

#

The blue Hawaii

#

That ark was messy tho and didn’t actually follow the rules but welp

ebon rampart
#

true it was kinda stupid

minor ore
#

Jojolion hasn’t really had any bad arks outside of blue Hawaii

#

I enjoyed Milagro man a lot

#

The side arks developing family members are fun

#

I really love the family dynamics

#

You just fall in love with the cast

#

Joshu and Hato joking around was the cutest thing ever

thorn pier
#

I didn't like too many of them, the ones with chasing or 'automatic' stands are not as fun as ones where they directly meet the stand user.

supple totem
#

i generaly love wholesome moments in jojolion

minor ore
#

Yea the automatic stand game is strong in this part

ebon rampart
#

We need more higashikata family wholesome moments

#

whelp i guess that ain’t happening anymore

minor ore
#

I also prefer direct user on user cause I love how scientific and weird the fights go

thorn pier
#

Yeah, same. And just character interaction.

minor ore
#

The writing this part especially the characters are amazing

#

I like the subtlety

#

Even in design choices

#

This is the most laid down part in terms of designs

#

Some of the outfits seem realistic even

#

Its why I love part 5 and this part the subtle character writing is so good

#

Jojolion might be his magnum opus who knows

#

I personally enjoy it way more than steel ball run

#

Enough of me creating text walls for today xoxo 💅

ebon rampart
#

yeah joshu is basically carrying the whole of jojolion

minor ore
#

Joshu is a character I hated but actually grew to love

#

He hasn’t done anything wrong if I’m honest

#

jobin is carrying jojolion wym

ebon rampart
#

nah joshu is best boi

minor ore
#

A random sailor man comes into your house gets more respect than you takes your room and your place in the family and earns the respect of your older brother

#

Yes of course I would be pissed

#

This is so much like part 1

ebon rampart
#

i relate to him sometimes

minor ore
#

shut up

#

wait no

#

best dilf

#

Dio invading into the household is like gappy

#

Jobin is a ducking psychopath

#

If you actually like him get checked please

ebon rampart
#

jonathan is like a gentlemen

minor ore
#

ducking

thorn pier
#

Jobin is not a psychopath.

ebon rampart
#

but joshu is just every normal person

minor ore
#

Jobin is crazy... like ma’am

#

I have a feeling that jobin is being one of HD's victims

#

He thinks he’s right and always doing the right thing

ebon rampart
#

well i mean jobin is still cool

minor ore
#

I feel like all of this mess

ebon rampart
#

no i don’t think so

minor ore
#

Norisuke dying

#

but he cant see him

ebon rampart
#

norisuke is probably dead

minor ore
#

Tsurugi getting extra ill

#

he is

thorn pier
#

Well. Maybe he is psychopathic. His mentality is that people getting hurt is OK, and that there is no thing such as empathy. There is just one thing: winning.

minor ore
#

It’s like the head doctor caused all of it

#

He is ok with smashing people to get higher in life which is the psychopath mentality

ebon rampart
#

Jobin killed Norisuke but he could have just made him sacrifice himself to cure Tsuguri’s stone disease

thorn pier
#

That's what I just said.

ebon rampart
#

either way norisuke dies

#

stupid joobin

minor ore
#

Jobins goal is to cure the disease forever

#

At all costs

#

Not just cure tsurugi

ebon rampart
#

yeah ik

thorn pier
#

The problem is that Norisuke would tell the police or something that Jobin did all of these bad things.

minor ore
#

It could have gone perfect if oijiro didn’t visit

#

Norisuke was ready to help

ebon rampart
#

thing is ojiro didn’t even want to kill them

#

he just wanted to get the fruit

thorn pier
#

Yeah but he didn't want Jobin to kill people.

minor ore
#

norisuke would do jobin a kaato

thorn pier
#

Yes.

#

Exactly.

ebon rampart
#

lmao

minor ore
#

Caato is now gonna thrive when her biggest threat is gone

ebon rampart
#

i forgot kaato even existed

minor ore
#

Her main problem was norisuke

#

she's behind it all

#

She owns the estate

#

If norisuke is actually dead

#

It’s hers

ebon rampart
#

i wonder if she’s teaming up with the hd

minor ore
#

Remember half of it is hers

#

I do think that too

#

She has something to do with him

#

OOOOHH

#

Scatter you genius

#

That’s why toorus and her second name are being kept a secret

#

It’s gonna be some plot twist

ebon rampart
#

damn we already predicting it

minor ore
#

but she caused her beloved son too many problems

#

That’s the best part of waiting for new chapters

#

Throwing theories and when they are right it’s so satisfying

analog ether
#

^This

kind owlBOT
#

@analog ether, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 17 !

minor ore
#

I seriously thought Caato is jolynes counterpart

#

From her being framed to the 15 year prison sentence

#

Her wanting revenge on her man

#

She shares so much with jolyne

thorn pier
#

Yeah the prison was the same too... almost.

#

But it's not that.

minor ore
#

Her hair also

ebon rampart
#

bruh jolyne killed that lawyer but not her ex boyfriend

minor ore
#

It’s a nice reference

ebon rampart
#

like tf

minor ore
#

Ik but the lawyer was easy target

#

He also was as bad as the boyfriend

#

Even worse doing scumbag shit behind her back for money

ebon rampart
#

she left him to live tho

#

oh well at least everyone died at the end

minor ore
#

Emporio was like

#

I’m alive hoes

analog ether
#

Romeo did Jolyne a solid at least

#

Kept the police off her, gave her a helicopter

minor ore
#

Caato stand I can’t wait to see more of it

#

shiiit im hyped

#

Her whole reveal

#

I was so shocked

#

Like she is so pretty

#

I though she was like 20 or smth

#

Then the 52yo thing came

#

IKR

#

I actually though she’s jolyne

analog ether
#

Dude
Funny Valentine is 48

minor ore
#

BRO

#

Funny went one of those level 1 to level 100 transformations

ebon rampart
#

HD reveal be reminding me of shadow diavolo

minor ore
#

oooh

#

I don’t even think the HD is real at this point

ebon rampart
#

cuz everyone thinks that the HD isn’t it’s actual identity

minor ore
#

But he has ticket to ride

#

Like the exact ability

#

It’s the ability of the holy corpse

#

cheap trick over heaven

#

It’s like cheap trick trigger and ticket to ride ability

#

Remember Lucy had to cut people with her tears

#

And things came clashing into them

thorn pier
#

It's not the exact ability.

minor ore
#

They got the worst luck

ebon rampart
#

Maybe he’s like the au universe version of kars but instead of seeking for the red aja to become ultimate kars he’s searching for the new rokaka

thorn pier
#

That's just not true.

ebon rampart
#

HD could just be revealed as the maker of stone humans?

minor ore
#

AU kars is magenta magenta

ebon rampart
#

lol

minor ore
#

HD is the maker of the locacaca!!!

#

So that works

analog ether
#

There's not really a true "AU" version of every character

ebon rampart
#

well i mean only the ‘death’ is the au of kars

minor ore
#

The locacaca seems related to Jesus tbh

analog ether
#

There's like 4 Josuke's in part 8

minor ore
#

True

#

Norisuke is the actual josuke

#

i mean they look the same-

#

wavey purple hair

ebon rampart
#

Nojo

minor ore
#

Part 8 is part 4 set a generation forward

#

except one is fully dressed and one is barely dressed

ebon rampart
#

I wish they did more with kira’s sister’s character

minor ore
#

Nah she sucks lmao

#

She was erased from the universe

analog ether
#

Well yeah but one was a GOD and the other was a nasally little shit

ebon rampart
#

she’s kinda irrelevant in the story now

minor ore
#

That’s gonna come up

#

No she’s actually relevant I know it

#

Her being erased from the photo

ebon rampart
#

completely forgot about that lol

minor ore
#

magenta is a god wym

analog ether
#

I think she's just gonna show up again, normally, out of the blue.
Mitsuba and Ojiro got brought back with almost no fanfare, I don't think it'd be much different for Kyo

minor ore
#

It’s making me suspicious there’s some perception trickery with a stand being able to erase people from existence

#

wasn't there a panel of her dead?

#

Yea in ozone baby

#

She was passed out

#

Oh my bad

ebon rampart
#

In the end i don’t think josuke will unfuse

minor ore
#

Wait no-

analog ether
#

He better not

minor ore
#

No that won’t make sense

#

lemme look it up

#

The whole part is about finding himself

#

Him fusing will counter all of that

#

He just accepted himself

ebon rampart
#

yeah

thorn pier
#

Endings do not have to be happy.

minor ore
#

I don’t see a fusion happening it’s just not practical or possible

#

He will get his memory wiped

#

Same if someone like jobin fuses

#

You would also have to be buried into the fusing ground

ebon rampart
#

i was talking about defusion but ok

minor ore
#

Cause that’s what caused most of Kira and josefumis fusion

#

Defusion won’t be possible

#

Kira is dead

#

Josuke is not 2 people in one there’s the biproduct

#

They both exchanged equality but sadly only one survived

#

Also an autopsy was performed on kiras corpse so I don’t see him coming back

#

jojolion is confusion

ebon rampart
#

ok lol

minor ore
#

Imagine it like 2 apples one green and one red and they are both halved

#

Now swap one of the slices with the other

analog ether
#

well if his corpse is still there, i guess it's not 100% out of the question for him to be revived. But he wouldn't really be the same person, so I don't know how that would work

minor ore
#

How that would happen I don’t know tbh

#

The rokakaka is dodgy so Idek

#

Johnny is a saint

#

he died there

#

created that spot

#

bazinga

ebon rampart
#

new rokaka could probably revive maybe

minor ore
#

Isn’t Johnny burried in that temple

analog ether
#

or maybe
it's just cus johnny put the corpse there
so stands just started appearing

minor ore
#

no

ebon rampart
#

he buried at the spot he died

minor ore
#

when he touched that leaf it gained a stand

#

so he is a saint

#

Yea but remember he shot himself before death and he gave a stand to the tree

#

Johnny was able to grand a stand

#

the corpse was taken away

#

That’s a holy corpse thing

#

He also should be spinning to this day

#

He is the holy corpse

analog ether
#

No
Johnny left the corpse at the base of the Wall Eyes. So it became a Devils Palm type area

minor ore
#

No he didnt leave it there lmfao

#

But he granted a stand to the tree on shakedown road

analog ether
#

The corpse was taken away, but the corpse was there for enough time

ebon rampart
#

i thought the corpse was taken back

minor ore
#

Holy corpse had nothing to do with it

analog ether
#

?????

minor ore
#

He granted a fucking stand

#

The tree one

#

bro do you even jojolion

analog ether
#

Yeah he just granted something an ability?

#

Cus Johnny does that?

minor ore
#

Yea that’s an ability that The holy corpse has too

#

Those 2 are the only occasions of a stand being granted

#

Like the holy corpse and devil palms are like the arrows

analog ether
#

Then why do stand users start appearing in Morioh?

minor ore
#

becuz people went to the wall eyes

#

got a stand

#

boom

analog ether
#

Why do people gain stands from THAT area, where the corpse was buried, before the Wall Eyes even sprouted?

minor ore
#

wym lmao

#

Cause johnnys corpse is in the temple

#

its like the devil's palm

#

The one in the middle in of the wall eyes

analog ether
#

Right, exactly, it's like the Devils Palm

minor ore
#

a vast area was effected by johnny's corpse

analog ether
#

No, not JOhnny's corpse

#

That's stupid

minor ore
#

BRO

#

its literally shown he gave the leafs stands

analog ether
#

This is some dumb xforts theory shit

minor ore
#

aight whateva

#

How is it stupid when the higashikatas go to that temple which I’m sure is johnnys grave to transfer the disease

#

And that temple is in the middle of the wall eyes

analog ether
#

Because that's part of the Wall Eyes

minor ore
#

What else is in that temple

#

No it was used before that

#

It was used to cure jobin

#

Jobin was cured way before the wall eyes

#

The rest of the higashikatas before that too

#

the wall eyes appeared because of that earth quake that happened

analog ether
#

Dude, that's just the power of the Wall Eyes

minor ore
#

omfg

analog ether
#

That area has ALWAYS had that power, even before they sprouted

#

Even before the protrusions, that area has always had the same power

minor ore
#

what confirms that?

analog ether
#

Ojiro?

minor ore
#

where

analog ether
#

Actually think about how many people gain stands before 2011

minor ore
#

Yea johnnys corpse is the reason for all of this

analog ether
#

oml

minor ore
#

?

analog ether
#

Ok
Let's see some proof

minor ore
#

THE LEAFS

#

It has been there way before the wall eyes were awakened

#

It caused the area to turn into a devil palm

#

OML

analog ether
#

This is the only thing explaining how the leaves came to be

minor ore
#

NO LMAO

#

Look at the panel with johnny touching the leafs

#

the stand literally spawned there

#

Lmfao Johnny died

#

Because he awakened the leaves

#

yea

#

The tree stand was the reason he was smashed

#

Exactly

analog ether
#

Yes I know

minor ore
#

SO??

#

Yea and that doesn’t make sense

#

You are contradicting yourself

#

bro what even are you trying to say

analog ether
#

What are you talking about?
There's like 1 panel, of Johnny's hand laying on top of a leaf, and that's proof that he granted the leaves a Stand, that's what you're saying?

minor ore
#

No he stepped on a leaf

#

And then got smashed

#

he touched the leaf

analog ether
#

He touched it

#

WIth his hand

#

Anyway

#

You're saying this was him giving it a Stand?

minor ore
#

yes

#

Yea

#

your point?

#

Actually where did this stone come from

#

It literally came out of nowhere

#

Did the leaf stand push it

#

look at the panel where he falls off his horse

#

there's a rock

#

near by

#

So he touched the leaf and that caused the rock to be pushed forward

ebon rampart
#

it’s the leaf that killed johnny

#

the leaf’s stand

minor ore
#

Yea that actually makes sense

analog ether
#

That Rock doesn't appear until that panel

minor ore
#

It looks like it was dragged

#

omfg

#

No it’s in the bg

analog ether
minor ore
#

let me get the think

#

hold on

analog ether
#

Dude i have the fucking manga open rn lmao

minor ore
#

there

#

The angle

#

It’s the same rock

analog ether
#

It doesn't appear until that panel

minor ore
#

It was pushed by the leaf stand

#

What are u talking about

#

I’m confused

#

just explain your point

#

It’s clearly Johnny triggering the stand and the rock from previous panel smashing his head

#

Even the swooshing motion of the rock is like what we see in the shakedown road ark

analog ether
#

Why is it more likely that it was Johnny that did it and not the corpse of Jesus Christ that's lying 5 meters away from him?

#

And don't say "Cus the leaves are on Johnny!!?!" Motherfucker, there are leaves all over the street

white beacon
#

The leaves were granted the stand because of the corpse, then johnny touched the leaves and activated the ability

analog ether
#

Thank you

minor ore
#

BRUH

#

lemme get this

#

so the corpse who didnt even touch that shit anywhere

#

granted the stand?

white beacon
#

Yes

ebon rampart
#

Johnny transferred it from the corpse

minor ore
#

while johnny who literally touched it and was shown to give it the stand

#

didnt do shit

#

okay

#

what?

ebon rampart
#

corpse transferred it’s power to johnny and then johnny gave it to the leaf

analog ether
#

The corpse doesn't even need to directly touch shit to grant stands, like what????

#

Every single person who has a Stand in part 8 has never seen the corpse in their life

white beacon
#

The corpse parts can lie on the ground somewhere and just create an entire devil's palm, the corpse's proximity itself just grants stands randomly

minor ore
#

Actually Johnny could have transferred the holy corpses power to himself by shooting thru it into himself

#

Like scatt said

#

that doesnt make sense cuz jesus was on johnny's side lmfao

white beacon
#

That's just the natural power of the corpse though, to redirect "misfortune"

minor ore
#

Didn’t he shoot the corpse and his son and then himself to transfer the disease

analog ether
#

He didn't shoot the corpse

minor ore
#

and the son was lying on top of the corpse

analog ether
#

He just held it

ebon rampart
#

he didn’t shoot the corpse what

white beacon
#

Yeah, he transferred what his son had to himself

deep jasper
#

he wasn't transferring power

kind owlBOT
#

@deep jasper, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

deep jasper
#

he was just taking advantage of Love train

ebon rampart
#

Love train??

minor ore
#

LMAO NO

#

How

ebon rampart
#

wait whatt?!!?

minor ore
#

How is love train in any of this

ebon rampart
#

Im so confused holy shit

minor ore
#

Love train is D4C power up wym

#

It’s dirty deeds substand

deep jasper
#

i'm pretty sure Jesus' stand is Love train

analog ether
#

The Chad Xforts Theory VS The Virgin Part 7 Canon

minor ore
#

You mean ticket to ride

tame tide
#

what the fuck

white beacon
#

I mean, kinda love train, the concepy of redirecting the damage is there

ebon rampart
#

Jesus doesn’t have a stand lol

minor ore
#

That is the holy corpses power love train

white beacon
#

TICKET TO RIDE IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT

deep jasper
#

since it's called D4C: Love train

analog ether
#

reading is hard guys

minor ore
#

Love train is a substand

deep jasper
#

instead of just love train

#

it's like when Jotaro has Star Platinum: The World

minor ore
#

Ticket to ride is the corpses ability? Like Lucy was the host for the corpse and gained the ability and after that she lost it

#

WHAT IS GOING ON

ebon rampart
minor ore
#

Ticket to ride is lucy's stand tf

ebon rampart
#

lol jojolion text channel be wildin

minor ore
#

IKR

#

🚶‍♀️

white beacon
#

Because of the corpse's "miracle" to "redirect misfortune(as seen with Ticket To Ride and Love Train)" Johnny shot his son and what his son had was redirected unto him(Johnny), the shot and the disease. Along with this, the corpse's unique ability to grant stands activated and granted the trees/leaves a stand. Johnny's dying body touches the leaves and activates that stand's ability, shifting the rock to his head and killinh him.

ebon rampart
minor ore
#

Love train is not the holy corpses ability... like Lucy was the host for the holy corpse and was using ticket to ride and valentine gained love train by having her around

#

Actually Jan that seems legit

#

You put it down together so I got it

#

i still believe johnny is a saint

#

but whateva

#

we moving on or nah?

analog ether
#

Look, look look look look look...
I don't care what's it's called, or what happened to Johnny. Point is, Johnny brought the corpse to Japan, buried it at the Twin Pines. Twin Pines are at the centre of the Land that would later become the Wall Eyes. That are becomes a place where Equivalent Exchange can happen, and also gives some people who go there a Stand. Twin Pines would later become a shrine, where the Higashikatas typically entered with another family member to exchange the rock disease. When the 2011 Earthquake's hit, the entire Area that was effected by the corpse became the Wall Eyes. That is the canon. Believe whatever fucking Xforts theory you wanna believe, but everything here is actual Canon.

ebon rampart
#

bruhh.

minor ore
ebon rampart
#

i just want to talk about joshu

minor ore
#

he didn't bury it ksks

analog ether
#

????????

minor ore
#

SO they aint moving on??

#

He hid it in the trunk

#

let's talk about joshu then

#

Joshu sjsksklaak

ebon rampart
#

i think we need more wholesome moments involving joshu

analog ether
minor ore
#

guys joshu is a king

analog ether
#

There

willow pendant
#

That is incorrect

#

Joshu is a bitch

minor ore
#

The events that happened when Jesus died remind me of the wall eyes awakening

#

Joshu is a god stfu

willow pendant
#

Wrong

minor ore
#

CORRECT

upper knoll
#

Can we ban James for hate speech

willow pendant
#

Joshu should die

minor ore
#

he saved yasuhoe

willow pendant
#

And he will die

#

HMMM

ebon rampart
#

joshu is not gonna die

#

Gappy is gonna die

minor ore
#

let him die at least he saved yasuhoe

willow pendant
#

HE SAVED WHO

minor ore
#

YES GAPPY DEATH

ebon rampart
#

Then joshu will be the true jojo

analog ether
#

Holy fucking shit dude

minor ore
#

YASUHO

#

Joshu also did absolutely nothing wrong because some random dude took his place in his family, stole money from him, is more loved and respected by his dad and gained the respect of jobin

willow pendant
#

joshu almost raped yashuo

#

Like

#

Bruh

minor ore
#

he didnt

willow pendant
#

Almost

minor ore
#

but he didnt

ebon rampart
#

it was a misunderstanding

analog ether
#

omg dude i can't take it

ebon rampart
#

he thought yasuho wanted to have sex with him

willow pendant
#

Be he didn’t have 4 balls

minor ore
#

It was because of the illusion of paper moon king which caused him to think that yasuho was calling him with a baby name

analog ether
#

people can't read jojolion properly, it's confirmed

willow pendant
#

That is incorrect

minor ore
#

that's why she recognized him later

#

stoopid

willow pendant
#

Yashuo said like oh its you jouske

minor ore
#

at first

analog ether
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Yeah then he stopped

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tame tide
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he thought she was saying Joshu ski

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