Yea
#jojolion
minor ore
old marlin
Poor Tom has done every drug
void viper
Poor Tom really be wilidin
grizzled pilot
there's no way that dude is like 33
grizzled pilot
actually i just threw a number out there. if anyone knows poor tom's real age feel free to let me know
austere minnow
OLD
grizzled pilot
but also baby
austere minnow
apparently he CLAIMS he's 57 but he's a rock human so who knows
or its CLAIMED he's 57, he didn't say anything about it
grizzled pilot
there's no way that dude is 57 years old.
old marlin
57....?
austere minnow
imo, there's no way that dork is a doctor
grizzled pilot
the head of all the doctors? i don't think so
minor ore
There’s no main antagonist in JoJolion rn right?
tawny mist
nope
Jobin is the closest thing to one
with the obvious contrast between him and Josuke
minor ore
i want jobin to be the main antagonist so speed king can have a better ability
that's possible but Jobin would still be too boring to be a main villain
well yeah but it makes the most sense for him to be the main villain
that would feel cheap
Araki wouldn't do that
minor ore
Norisuke.
He wants the best for his family. He hasn't done anything bad that I can remember
minor ore
yeah and he even collaborated with Josuke against Jobin
smoky maple
old marlin
It brings tears of joy to me little heart when people say Jobin is the obvious foil to Jousuke
minor ore
Sometimes I forget part 8 exists
knotty mango
Yeah because it sucks
viscid lintel
ok
versed mango
Parts 5-7 are my favorites
kind owlBOT
@versed mango, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !
old marlin
What is with the bad takes this morning
plush jackal
boring stands 
worthy coyote
plush jackal
characters just dont exist after their arcs
worthy coyote
^good reason
old marlin
Bad opinions
worthy coyote
whenever i see a ranking of the parts its usually low
viscid lintel
actually caring about ratings
old marlin
Theres only 2 characters that seem to have been dropped
primal grove
you see, it doens't matter if 99 characters come back
old marlin
Kaayo and Kyo
primal grove
because those 2 disappeared
old marlin
But listen
viscid lintel
Those are equalivalent to game journalists
primal grove
therefore, part 8 bad
primal grove
those don't count mike
old marlin
Shes relevant
primal grove
only the characters for my argument matter
worthy coyote
idc i was wondering why they think that way because i generally liked it
old marlin
Oh I'm so sorry Jammal you're right
I put it as my number 1 with so
It would be cool to see Karera again
worthy coyote
^
primal grove
she's gross as fuck
primal grove
like, the only female that araki made so far that is actually disgusting
worthy coyote
?????????
primal grove
dude, she literally picks her toes clean with a napkin
plush jackal
karera toes
primal grove
in the restaurant
old marlin
It's not like she eats it
primal grove
old marlin
I can kinda see the arguement that shes not elegant or perfect like other Jojo girls but that doesnt mean shes on par with someone like ungalo
minor ore
For me, I just find it boring a good portion of the time.
But then it'll blow up and make me really invested in seemingly random intervals.
primal grove
old marlin
Are you one of those Wu fight haters 
viscid lintel
Oh god
worthy coyote
minor ore
Nah I liked that one.
old marlin
Alright good, humanity restored
old marlin
Me needy araki to call him the main antagonist already
worthy coyote
jobin has my favorite design of the part i just love how he looks
pastel adder
I really like all of part 8's character designs
minor ore
Same actually.
worthy coyote
For sure
minor ore
Thing is, 8 is wonderful aesthetically and the story is super interesting at times, its only downfall is that it seems so jumbled that the story loses impact in a lot of ways.
In my opinion.
pastel adder
I just finished reading what is available of part 8 yesterday and have a question on something
old marlin
What exactly are those weaker moments for you, if I may ask
pastel adder
Wtf is up with Tooru
minor ore
Hmm.
old marlin
So far all we know is he got sticky fingers from Yasuho
pastel adder
His design is too cool to be a random ass side character
minor ore
Okay, well I'm pretty curious about the wall eyes.
old marlin
And maybe hes controlling the head doctor
minor ore
Unlike most people I actually loved Blue Hawaii.
pastel adder
That's what I thought mike
old marlin
minor ore
(I think.)
pastel adder
How close would you guess Jojolion is to a main antag reveal?
old marlin
The purveying headcanon I've seen is Tooru is the one who got the head doctor out of the Hospital with that stand
Very close or not at all
pastel adder
Yeah it does seem kinda all or nothing so far
old marlin
If Jobin doesnt come out as main villain in the next 5 chapters its over
Come on Jobin, come out the closet
primal grove
just wondering, but did any of you read part 7 as it was being released or did you catch up afterwards?
minor ore
As for weaker moments... I'd say stuff like the hairclip with Yasuho, the street stand arc, and the fight against Kyo.
old marlin
No way in hell did anybody in here read it as it was releasing
At the very earliest thats 2011
primal grove
because a lot of the complains about part 8 were also in part 7 as it was being released
no main villain for years
pastel adder
could the harvest roll us into the final arc or a main antag introduction maybe?
primal grove
hell, just the final D4C arc took 18 months
inner gust
What
primal grove
not counting TW
inner gust
Nah im not that old but i dont recall part 7 being fully translated when i was younger
I read part 7 back when it was just finished iirc
In english i mean
old marlin
Ah aight my mistake
inner gust
But i do remember some brazillian dude who read jojo in English complaining that the last 3 volumes of jojo sbr took days
old marlin
But in fairness tho you wouldnt be that old If you read along with SBR, like at the very latest you couldve been 14 in 2010 reading along and be 23 by now
grizzled pilot
days lol
primal grove
that's kinda my point, imagine waiting for it monthly, just to get
kind owlBOT
@primal grove, Your Stand Power is now level 30 !
primal grove
chocolate disco
primal grove
the fact is that 90% of the fandom never read jojo released on a weekly basis
they'd complain like crazy about part 7 as well
old marlin
Yeah that isnt old
inner gust
I just was into jojo as a baby
inner gust
Ye
primal grove
reading for years just to have hot pants die in a off screen pannel
inner gust
Monthly manga man hahahha
primal grove
that 90% didn't even get it
inner gust
Hot pants didnt die off screen?
old marlin
@minor ore Those last 2 are relatively early on but I'm really curious what exactly about the hair clip is so harmful? It's relatively short, comes after, imo, a really good fight, and gives background and character to yasuho
primal grove
well, kinda-ish, you know what i mean
old marlin
That took forever to write my bad
pastel adder
This is the first manga I have ever been up-to-date with and the wait time is jarring
worthy coyote
same
minor ore
Okay, I liked that it gave insight into Yasuho. However, on my first read, I found it confusing and I disliked that it distracted from the ongoing conflict.
minor ore
Granted it wasn't terrible, but I would have appreciated more for Yasuho's backstory.
I mean in general, the conflict of the story.
I can see what you mean, I just found it boring.
primal grove
when you wait 8 years for a goddamn boat ride
inner gust
Lmao
primal grove
anything else seems lighting fast
pastel adder
Oh I'm now reading a bunch of stuff, JoJo was my gateway
primal grove
i literally finished fucking high school and they were still in the boat
minor ore
My plan is to reread Jojion once it's finished to take it all in, as a binge.
inner gust
Its fun to theory craft WIT DA BOIZ
old marlin
I dont really see it as her backstory per se, what it is is more so setting up her reactions to having people around her not be who she thinks they are I guess? Like right now in the story Yasuho's probably really going through a lot because of Rai's distrust of her and Jousuke's radio silence doesnt help that. Like that Hairclip story was hard to read for me just cuz it shows just how hard Yasuho has it even though she's generally a happy person, it speaks volumes to how depressive people are in real life.
primal grove
part of what makes reading as it is release good is the theoryzing
old marlin
I like Yasuho ok
primal grove
just like watching a series as it is released or reading a book series
old marlin
Jojolion's the only monthly manga I read
minor ore
Nah I can see what you mean, and I do really enjoy Yasuho.
primal grove
imagine all the discussions that the fandom had during D4C release
if we still talk about it to this day
old marlin
I read One Piece and MHA weekly
pastel adder
Was JoJo ever weekly?
old marlin
Yes
primal grove
imagine reading that shit monthy
inner gust
Yeah jojolion is the only current manga i read besides REAL
primal grove
it only became monthly in part 7
old marlin
Even SBR was weekly early on
primal grove
it was released every single week from part 1 till early part 7
over 20 years releasing it weekly
minor ore
Josuke x Yasuho is the first relationship in the series I really actively want to see prosper.
pastel adder
Damn
old marlin
Same honestly
old marlin
Well aside from Jolyne and Annasui
inner gust
Araki has a huge staff though
minor ore
Oh shit yeah.
inner gust
Lucky land is big
primal grove
granted he took some breaks here and there
once some parts finished
sure, but they won't release anything without him
regarldess how big or small the company is
old marlin
Only a man who worked for 20 years of his life would create fucking Dragon's Dream as a form of Self Harm
inner gust
No I agree but his schedule is probs slightly worse than a 9-5
He has like 7 assitants for stuff
primal grove
less than 10 breaks for the entire part of 5
took a break once it ended
same thing for part 6
araki is cray cray
old marlin
Is this why he eventually went on to create Poco Loco
pastel adder
I wish it was still weekly but at the same time this man needs his time
primal grove
that's how he came up with fucking Loccobarocco
only a mad man can make this and think yes, this is a propriate human being
primal grove
pastel adder
The true main antagonist of Stone Ocean
primal grove
it's a scream for help
inner gust
He likes whacky stupid stuff
minor ore
does araki do drugs
God I wish that asshole from the prison got his shit kicked in.
Excuse my language.
verbal walrus
how about them 4 balls amirite
rich depot
I'm jealous
versed mango
Hear me out, like I’d not be disappointed if I had 4 balls
minor ore
where can i find jojolion for a good price
otaku mode is good but like
anywhere else thats cheaper?
minor ore
I'm so glad you reacted that way
Only tells me more
That's actually hype JOHNNY IS IN PART 8 LETS GOOOOO
have fun reading it! currently its my favorite part next to vento aureo
@minor ore
Wow really? Haven't heard that one yet
josuke is just a really neat character, he reminds me of myself
grizzled pilot
JJL is probably my 2nd or 3rd fav its really good
minor ore
especially how some of the panels belong in a museum
cause like, jesus lord
araki got skill
minor ore
(He deserved it.)
mossy robin
Violently beats someone to death with a shovel.
minor ore
(Ok they deserved it less but still.)
mossy robin
I do deadass want this figure.
Soft & Wet has probably one of my favorite designs.
And they chose the good color scheme for it.
Ouch though.
minor ore
Damn.
minor ore
One day, when I have disposable income.
mossy robin
WHY THE HELL IS WEATHER REPORT LITERALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN LIKE.
A FUCKING NEXT-GEN GAMING CONSOLE.
WHY.
minor ore
Lmao.
austere minnow
when the heck did the soft and wet figure become 80 dollars
not even a year ago it was 50 max
stupid part 5 anime dragging all these fans in and making our figure prices go higher
old marlin
@minor ore he should be more expensive tbh
tawny mist
I remember the SAS for weather report being on the cheap side too
why is that other figure so expensive
minor ore
@minor ore ill go to japan next year and buy you it, just pay me back fam
LOL
jkkk, japan in 2020 is a horrible idea, its going to be expensive cause of olympics
minor ore
yeah
im going to Atlantis Bahamas instead
ive been there like, 3 times
lol its nice
and relatively cheap
austere minnow
define cheap cause travelling in general is expensive
soft raptor
Cost is relative to distance usually
For a North America the caribbean will be cheaper then for a european
smoky maple
it's expensive to live
kind owlBOT
@smoky maple, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
minor ore
@smoky maple facts
austere minnow
which in turn is why its expensive to travel
its like living somewhere else for a week for the cost of living for a month
if not triple or even quadruple the amount at times
minor ore
man with 4 nuts and amnesia tries to find past
true junco
minor ore
Jobin a good boy
dont @ me
Also Mamezuku too, tho he looks more native American then the Natives from SBR
minor ore
Indeed, he's a simple man he likes beetles
Also figurines, we stan a man child
who is concidered the main side character of this part
true junco
Hmm
true junco
I really don’t know for sure
true junco
Yeah joshu
minor ore
mamezuku has been in the part for like 20 chapters
true junco
though he’s been pretty active so far
old marlin
"Mamezuku is the main side character"
"Joshu is the main side character"
"Yasuho's just the love interest"
old marlin
Maybe
minor ore
i don't think we know
old marlin
I hope not
minor ore
same
old marlin
We saw him in the body bag and he was bleeding from the neck it seems
So only time will tell if hes on the verge of death or already dead
minor ore
i just hope he's alive
old marlin
Knock on wood I think it's some kind of illusion from Tsurugi
minor ore
i mean okuyasu survived fatal situations twice
that would be the best case
even if he's alive he's doomed to die imo
who do you think will die?
old marlin
If not Yasuho and Norisuke then idk who
old marlin
SBR had what, 4 MC deaths?
minor ore
I'd say 3
old marlin
Diego
HP
Wekapipo
Gyro
minor ore
Not counting Wekapipo
old marlin
Maybe Diego doesnt count
minor ore
Wekapipo appeared the least
well he was an ally
I'd say all 4 count.
And was even ready to betray Johnny and Gyro in the end
Wekapipo was fighting for the MCs.
he said that in the final fight
Oh?
i hope it has as much deaths as diu
He said fv was winning so he'd rather be with him
or with diego
because diu has only like shigechi
Not sure
yeah it would make sense for it to be like diu since morioh and all
exactly
though we do egt more deaths for the villains here
most of diu villains were spared unlike jojolion
old marlin
Keicho was the only villain that died iirc
minor ore
yeah but that's because most villains became allies afterwards
keicho wasn't a truly bad guy
minor ore
i believe that if rhcp didn't kill him he wouldn't have done anything to josuke and koichi
old marlin
He was like 5 seconds away from rejecting Josuke's offer imo
Keicho really was dealt an awful hand in life, he didnt deserve ANYTHING that happened between him and his dad, yet that never gave him the right to murder an unknown amount of people in pursuit of a stand user that could destroy his father.
I believe he says it best when he's in a grappling match with the arrow, he says something along the lines of not being able to go back to the life he could've had because his actions in the last ten years were eventually going to catch up to him, and they DID when Akira eventually ends his life.
minor ore
yotsuyu yagiyama is one of the best minor antagonists
grizzled pilot
cause it has a nautical motif
and the word "wet" is in the name of one of his favourite prince songs
minor ore
yes
minor ore
20 volume releases I think
fast crow
Wait are they colored?
minor ore
no only 15
fast crow
Or translated atleast
minor ore
Every chapter is translated
tawny mist
New chapters usually get translated in a day or two
minor ore
Same day sometimes
old marlin
Its almost always same day
rocky charm
Plot twist: the translators we follow are Araki in disguise
That's how they translate and typeset so fast
old marlin
Going great tbh
I always get really eager by the beginning of the month since that means a new JJL is coming
versed shadow
Oooo, there's a new one coming? I've just catched up and i thought there wouldn't be another until next month
(i swear if jobin and or kaato aren't main antagonist im gonna lose it)
minor ore
Jobin's stand gets an upgrade: small brain
Jobin uses his stand in a really smart way that puts the main characters in a seriously bad position without asspulling new abilities: huge brain
versed shadow
^^^
kind owlBOT
@versed shadow, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
versed shadow
Well we haven't seen kaato stand yet so that might be op as fuck
versed shadow
Yeah
I think josuk8/josefumi identity mystery is one of my favorite mysteries in jojo idk why
I just enjoy part 8 a lot in general
minor ore
After I finish 6 I may reread it, I think I just kind of rushed a lot of it.
I really, really loved Josuke's backstory.
Oh God, and watching him finally give Damo his commeupance.
One of the best moments in Jojo.
versed shadow
Indeed
old marlin
What
versed shadow
I think I rushed part 6 as well but can't bother to reread
minor ore
My absolute favorite parts of Jojo are seeing villains get what they deserve after a long period of time has passed or they've been getting away with something for too long.
old marlin
I mean yeah crow, it's been heavily implied that Jobin uses his stand in a way that isnt exactly what his ability is
minor ore
And I was saying I think I rushed 8 a bit.
versed shadow
Oh my bad lol
minor ore
I'm sure so, which is why I'm saying I'd rather see that explored fully than him getting an upgrade.
old marlin
Also I'm heavily calling it
Kaato's stand is just Enigma but with Cards
old marlin
Well I dont even know how hed get one
No I'm not making a joke with that
I really believe it's just Enigma with cards
versed shadow
Y rushed part 4 cause I wanted to catch up to the anime and part 6 because it was too confusing for my lil brain
minor ore
I don't either, that's the fun of Jojo.
versed shadow
Also yeah mike might be right
old marlin
Karera?
versed shadow
Idk
minor ore
Mhm.
old marlin
Havent seen her since the damo arc
versed shadow
Disappeared
minor ore
Hmm.
versed shadow
Yeah but still
Its kinda weird they just placed her there to give us josuk8 real name and some other bits and bobs and then she disappeared
old marlin
Listen to this, this might give you some hope for her coming back.
She appeared and introduced us to Josefumi right? This lead to us finding out Jousuke's actual identity. Well Josefumi is also heavily connected to Kira, since ya know he fused to Josefumi, and the only other character in JJL heavily connected to Kira other than Damo was Ojirou. Guess who's important in the story again?
I'm not saying Karera's gonna have a larger role but the fact that Ojirou came back could very well mean Her and even Kyo could eventually come back into the story
versed shadow
Yeah that makes sense
kind owlBOT
@versed shadow, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
minor ore
Hopefully.
versed shadow
Also can we talk about how dirty they did my boi johnny
minor ore
boulder
old marlin
Holy's honestly the thing I really care about in JJL, Jousuke is basically Kakyoin done right in this part, she was Josefumi's "image of happiness" like how Holy was Kakyoin's. Jousuke's entire drive is repaying Kira by saving his mother
minor ore
So let me get this straight.
old marlin
And I'd be really pissy if that wasnt resolved
old marlin
Yes
minor ore
like 90/10 or some shit
versed shadow
Yeah
old marlin
Since he inherited his body
minor ore
Okay.
Maybe I'll just go back and reread that arc tbh.
Where does the Damo stuff star
old marlin
Vitamin C?
minor ore
t?*
old marlin
Starts after Karera's arc
versed shadow
Vitamin c is actually a pretty cool stand
night portal
what i don't understand is what part of Kira Queen did Soft and Wet inherit from Kira? Didn't it say that the stands should fuse too?
old marlin
"Hato brought her boyfriend"
versed shadow
Yeah that
old marlin
That's the chapter I believe it starts @minor ore
minor ore
Thanks dude.
versed shadow
I dont see any killer queen in soft and wet
minor ore
Originally S&W only fused stuff, right?
versed shadow
Ooo yeah
minor ore
And this KQ has a lot of little bombs.
night portal
I thought the bubble part of kira queen was from Stray Cat though
versed shadow
Lol
old marlin
From what I remember the OG soft and wet could slightly combine things with its bubbles but after Josefumi fused with Kira Soft and Wet was able to use his plunder ability
So it's not like a fusion of the 2 it's more so enhancing the original ability of S&W
versed shadow
Yeah
old marlin
I had shit connection apolgies
versed shadow
I understood that og soft and wet had the ability to separate and unite things, cause of that panel with the ramen and the pepper
old marlin
Yeah that's what it was originally
minor ore
Awesome ability tbh.
Plunder is just hard to understand imo, exactly which concepts he can steal and not.
versed shadow
In that case could he steal someone's stand? I think soft and wet deserves just a tad bit more of explaining
If he stealed someone's soul let's say
night portal
if he took some physics courses he could cause some serious shit with that
honest valley
Steals general relativity
minor ore
steals gravity
versed shadow
Steals time
versed shadow
King crimson time
minor ore
Steals gravity.
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !
versed shadow
Soft and wet is lowkey really op
night portal
steals ur strong nuclear force creates a black hole
kind owlBOT
@night portal, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
old marlin
Relating to one person it's only ever been shown to steal things like Hydration and Sight and even Friction in EoH
minor ore
Death time
versed shadow
Could he steal oxygen?
versed shadow
Ok soft and wet is actually really op
minor ore
Yeah I agree.
versed shadow
If used correctly
minor ore
One of the best Jojo stands tbh.
old marlin
However as of late he uses his bubbles as physical abilities
honest valley
Time is physical according to general relativity so S&W could steal time.
minor ore
theoretically, with a big enough bubble, he could steal you (imagine in chills voice)
night portal
how long can his bubbles last for?
old marlin
I more so believe Jousuke just hasnt needed his plunder in a LONG while
minor ore
there's no u
night portal
cause if its a while he could just steal small explosions and yeet them into the enemy
minor ore
in josuke
old marlin
The longest seemed to be the Higashikata Garden
minor ore
it's josuke not jousuke
versed shadow
Josuk8 is going to steal time in the last battle mark my words (or some asspull like that)
old marlin
He chased Poor Tom through the entire thing
minor ore
i guess that KC theory could be correct
old marlin
I love that araki loved bubbles so much he used them 3 times
Did a part 6 stand use bubbles
I forgot
versed shadow
Can't remember in which other occasions?
minor ore
nah
old marlin
Caesar, Stray Cat, and now Soft and Wet
minor ore
yea
old marlin
Sucks
old marlin
Cuz the 3 bubble abilities happened in prime numbered parts
That wouldve been cool if part 6 had it
night portal
don't forget Milagro Man and the financial bubble it creates
versed shadow
What did ya'll thought jojos was from the random bits
versed shadow
Maybe? Idk
minor ore
Nut King Call is honestly really cool and I wanna see more of it.
old marlin
I know a lot of people who would disagree with you
minor ore
Joshu is best
versed shadow
Ehhh, i mean i hate him for the meme, he is kinda annoying but not that much, just enough of annoying
kind owlBOT
@versed shadow, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
minor ore
As a Jojo fan you either love or hate him.
craggy belfry
NOBODY HERE WOULD AGREE WITH YOU
versed shadow
Lol
craggy belfry
where the fuck is pulp
old marlin
Yes they would
versed shadow
I mean i dont hate him, just wish he was less annoying
old marlin
@minor ore
craggy belfry
You're safe for today
minor ore
Joshu's only redeeming qualities are his genuine love for and drive to help his family, and his cool uses of NKC.
craggy belfry
there's also the fact that he didn't sell out Josuke during shakedown road, despite the man coming into his life and margianalizing him
lilac pumice
Remember when Joshu asked Kaato to let him suckle on her t*ts? good times
minor ore
Honestly Joshu is easy to like but his creep vibes against women are hard to get past.
versed shadow
Yeah, what annoyed me the most is thst he (more or less) tried to "rape" yashuo and that he is an incel
lilac pumice
well, tbh he kinda thought Yashuo was into it
craggy belfry
Moreso Less
old marlin
I mean
lilac pumice
And she kinda was since she thought he was Josuke
night portal
more like yasu-hoe
lilac pumice
Dont you dare disrespect Yashuo like that
versed shadow
She is queen
old marlin
Who did
minor ore
Honestly I want Josuke to win, but I kind of want Jobin to win too.
He has semigood motivations.
austere minnow
Jobin gang all day
minor ore
And he's just compelling.
lilac pumice
Well, I think they kinda could come to an agreement if they weren't so stubborn
versed shadow
Nah, I'm rooting for my boi josuke, joshu is too much of a creep for me
old marlin
Rooting for Jobin hmmm
minor ore
No, definitely not.
minor ore
I just mean if Josuke dies or something, I'd be ok with Jobin winning.
old marlin
minor ore
Well, Yasuho moreso.
night portal
did jobin survive because they sacrificed that one bully kid?
versed shadow
Ehhh, its difficult to give traits of personality or motivation to a character with no memory
old marlin
COUGH COUGH Jobin Main Antagonist
lilac pumice
Nah
night portal
if so couldnt the family just ask the government for a death row inmate to sacrifice every generation
lilac pumice
Jobin is to obvious
old marlin
"Nah"
old marlin
versed shadow
But she doesn't have that much of an op stand
lilac pumice
I honestly thought Tsurugi was the main antagonist but the last chapter kinda proved me wrong
But to be fair
minor ore
You know, I really feel like it should be obvious Jobin is the main villain. When did people realize Valentine was the big bad of p7?
lilac pumice
Tsurugi had some big Evil vibes
old marlin
When he raped Lucy
night portal
shouldnt kaato have a string based stand since she is AU jolyne?
austere minnow
you know, you can think of the death row inmate thing as a plothole but I can guarantee there's almost no IRL family that would think of that and if they did the government probably wouldn't go along with it anyway
versed shadow
Well since the first time i saw him, was too obvious for me, ominous guy with some secrets motivation to sponsor the race sounds pretty suspicious to me
old marlin
I'm really excited to see the explanation of what Tsurugi did last chapter
versed shadow
Same
austere minnow
IF we get it in the next chapter
lilac pumice
I think he cant control his stand anymore
versed shadow
We might
night portal
what if Jesus was the main villain. he's actually a stone human in hibernation
old marlin
I kinda hope it isnt AU King Crimson but at the same time I would 100% be ok with it
austere minnow
Hey Mike do you think you'll actually LIKE Tsurugi by the end of part 8
lilac pumice
But more importantly, we get more OJIRO
lilac pumice
He's the trash man
kind owlBOT
@lilac pumice, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
minor ore
Tsurugi is annoying.
versed shadow
Kinda
old marlin
Someone said it
lilac pumice
true
minor ore
Last chapter humanized him a bit, so he's more likeable.
versed shadow
It makes me uncomfortable
minor ore
But so far he's just been kinda...
lilac pumice
Yeah
minor ore
"AAAAAA"
old marlin
@austere minnow what did you mean by "If we get a chapter"
minor ore
"AAAA DAD"
lilac pumice
yeah but, he's like 11
night portal
he's 10 years old
minor ore
Oh yea and when he tried to trap Yasuho into liking him.
versed shadow
I think he meant if we get to see the explanation in the chapter
old marlin
Crow me and my friend read JJL every single new episode and we give him the most disgusting, whiny, annoying voice ever
minor ore
Hahaha
versed shadow
I would love to hear that lol
lilac pumice
As it should be
minor ore
I can see that.
old marlin
Like I can imagine him sounding like how Magent Magent apparently sounds
minor ore
I was gonna mention that!
old marlin
But just way younger and way more annoyijg
austere minnow
ok I probably didn't type what I meant to say.
What I meant to say was, "If they cover what's happening with his ability in the next chapter"
knotty mango
I despise tsurugi
old marlin
Oh ok good
minor ore
"Don't you ever like, have fun?" -The know it all kid from the Polar Express, as Magenta Magenta
knotty mango
Horny 11 year old
night portal
who dresses as a girl
kind owlBOT
@night portal, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
lilac pumice
Like yall weren't
austere minnow
Horny NINE year old
versed shadow
I think everyone is uncomfortable with tsurugi
minor ore
tsurugi is best boy
old marlin
versed shadow
Nice bait
minor ore
don't @ me
old marlin
Magent Magent and Tsurugi
minor ore
^
austere minnow
I have absolutely no qualms with Tsurugi but I don't think he's my favorite or anything so I don't care if people shit on him
minor ore
Oh yeah, and I get that Jobin dressed Tsurugi that way to ward off the curse or whatever, but why has he been in drag for the entire part???
old marlin
That's why
lilac pumice
Remember when Tsurugi suddenly aged 7 years
old marlin
There isnt much else to it
minor ore
Ughhhhh.
versed shadow
That makes me uncomfortable as fuck
versed shadow
I feel ya crow
old marlin
It really does
austere minnow
pretty sure when he turns 10 they'll get rid of it, I'm pretty sure they say they'd RAISE HIM as a girl
versed shadow
Just. Unconfortable
old marlin
Especially since he doesnt identify with being a female
He uses Male pronouns with his family
minor ore
Yeah exactly.
old marlin
And only does it with strangers
versed shadow
Yeah just goes around being a dude in dress
lilac pumice
It's kinda a life or death situtation though
versed shadow
It's still uncomfortable tho
minor ore
If he wanted to be female I'd be way more cool but it's just odd. I really hope Araki goes with the "rituals are harmful when against medicine" route.
versed shadow
Or akward, that's a better word
old marlin
Idk how I'd feel about Crossdressing being painted as bad lol
versed shadow
Yeah if he wanted to be female i would be Gucci
old marlin
Ig that makes it lighter
night portal
he's just Alternate Universe Anasui duh
lilac pumice
I dont think he wants to die though
old marlin
Yeah he clearly doesnt
minor ore
???
lilac pumice
So he kinda accepts it
old marlin
In the last chapter he was a wreck because his "illness" was coming
Which
What was that
Idk If that was the rock disease
minor ore
Oh yeah.
old marlin
Because he turned old. Not rocky
lilac pumice
Also, how much time passed since the start of jojolion in universe
versed shadow
I mean, does the cross dressing really affect the illness? Just feels like a dumb ritual, hope araki tackles that
old marlin
Weve SEEN what the rock disease actually looks like and it looked NOTHING like with what happened with Tsurugi last chapter
Well the disease is said to only affect the first MALE of the Higashikatas
So crossdressing is to pass as female as to trick the disease/curse
minor ore
^
old marlin
That's why he cross dresses and why Norisuke and Jobin apparently did as well
versed shadow
Ehhh, still feels dumb but ok, cause that's jojos i guess
austere minnow
I always saw it as "other cultures can be WEIRD" so I just ignored it
old marlin
It follows and internal logic imo
minor ore
Yea
versed shadow
Yea ig
old marlin
Like it makes sense when you dont think about it to hard
versed shadow
Like everything in jojos
lilac pumice
Also, anything can be normal since its an alternate universe.
Araki doesnt have rules
old marlin
Ig so
But it's not like
The most outlandish thing
It's even shown not to work
Like at all
minor ore
I suppose I'd like to see it at a sort of angle where it makes a comment on social stuff.
lilac pumice
Well, I think the crossdressing worked with Noriuske
austere minnow
pretty sure his mom was sacrificed
kind owlBOT
@austere minnow, Your Stand Power is now level 13 !
lilac pumice
Oh
kind owlBOT
@lilac pumice, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
old marlin
I believe he said his mom was sacrificed
versed shadow
Anyone has theories on how the sbr-verse is going to conect to the irene-verse? Or are we just exploring alternative universes for laughs and gags
old marlin
Notheyre not connected at all
lilac pumice
Well
austere minnow
people actually theorize that all the time and I don't know why
minor ore
Nothing about transgenderism per se bc that's not what it's about, I just always enjoy seeing authors comment on tradition vs. innovation.
austere minnow
it doesn't seem like Araki IMO
minor ore
Sorru for being late, I was a little busy.
lilac pumice
The only thing that could happen is if a main antagonist has a universe shattering ability
austere minnow
me when I see Ireneverse + SBRverse talk
lilac pumice
Nah, D4C had dimensions I believe. Like it was a seperate thing
versed shadow
Sorry m8
versed shadow
Alternative universes are just fun lol
lilac pumice
Even if they don't connect, I wanna see the irene verse again. It's been far too long
night portal
wasn't it literally like 3 pages long
austere minnow
but it usually leads to outlandish things like
"EMPORIO IN PART 8"
or
"PART 9 WILL HAVE THE UNIVERSES COMBINE"
or people discounting that the Kujos exist in the SBRverse so that the Ireneverse can't be a connection
pastel adder
Ireneverse will never come back let's be real
versed shadow
Yeah, i like to believe that was the happy ending to jojos
kind owlBOT
@versed shadow, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
minor ore
See personally, I think it would've been cool to see p7 as the p1 to the Ireneverse. And I know, they're unconnected, but it would've felt more like natural progression.
old marlin
It is happy thi
austere minnow
why see the Ireneverse ever again when you can continue to see good ol Rohan Kishibe do weird stuff in the original universe
minor ore
ireneverse
old marlin
I am happy with where the original universe ends
I know a lot of people arent
But narratively I'm glad it ends with Jolyne having a chance at life
versed shadow
I am at peace too
old marlin
Unshackled by her family
minor ore
same
pastel adder
It's good enough
minor ore
Oh I agree. I love the ending.
versed shadow
I think its a fitting ending
night portal
i just want a sci-fi jojo arc with spaceships and stuff
minor ore
it's bizarre
lilac pumice
Yes its a good ending but I need more closure for my heart
versed shadow
I wouldn't say i love it but im at peace with it
lilac pumice
am sad
versed shadow
Much sad
minor ore
bruh, they all fucking die, (not emporio tho) and that's it
lilac pumice
Well, Emporio is kinda fucked
minor ore
I also like that Araki isn't the type for fanservice, so although we don't see Giorno meet Jolyne or a "dead characters all meet" episode, we're also never forced to read chapters only showcasing big boobies.
emporio killed pucci
old marlin
Daily Reminder: it only started to rain when Emporio saw Irene and started to Cry
versed shadow
Well they are rebirthed so its ok
old marlin
So basically
rich hearth
Emporio gonna have some trama after seeing all that shit
old marlin
Weather made it rain
versed shadow
^
old marlin
That one girl with the giant tits in shakedown road tho
lilac pumice
^
old marlin
That's the best kinda filler
mortal oasis
@lilac pumice don't use slurs please
knotty mango
We do see jolyne shine the pearl @minor ore
lilac pumice
ok
old marlin
Filler played for a joke
mortal oasis
thanks
lilac pumice
fr*ck
night portal
emporio is the star child from 2001 space odyssey
minor ore
We hear about it, lol.
austere minnow
we need more Stone Ocean emotes so I can properly react to Stone Ocean related things
knotty mango
E see her naked
minor ore
SAME.
knotty mango
We
versed shadow
Jolyne shines the pearl wherever and whenever she fucking wants and I loved that lol
knotty mango
old marlin
Me listening to What a Wonderful World
lilac pumice
Sad times
versed shadow
minor ore
Hey if Stone Ocean is animated, I'm gonna absolutely love life. We'll finally get an abundance of Weather fanart, hopefully.
old marlin
"I think myseeeeeelf
What a wondefuuuuuul wooooooooorld"
lilac pumice
Yes
old marlin
Please say knock on wood
lilac pumice
I want more Weatherr boi
minor ore
But back to Jojoljon, boy I sure can't wait for everyone to die.
knotty mango
Please say sike
old marlin
Good bait
austere minnow
man every stone ocean character already gets enough love I just want LANG WRANGLER fan art
knotty mango
Please say sike bro...
old marlin
WHAT A WONDERFUUUUUL WOOOORLD
OOOOOOOOOO YEAAAAAAAAAH
rich hearth
Soft and Wet will just kill everyone because its power keeps rising 😃
minor ore
Actually gonna move to #jojo-overall-discussion.
versed shadow
We should actually
lilac pumice
true tbh
old marlin
Who actually thinks Rai could even die at this point
old marlin
Not me either
versed shadow
Nah he is safe
rich hearth
A smart Okuyasu 
versed shadow
I dont think so
lilac pumice
Well, Josefumi is AU Josuke X Okuyasu and Kira is Kira X Jotaro
thats how i interpreted it
versed shadow
I think they are saving my boi okuyasu for something special
lilac pumice
nah, she just has the name as a fake
knotty mango
But shes a cutie doe
lilac pumice
true that
knotty mango
She got them lips
old marlin
She do
knotty mango
We never see her again
minor ore
Kyo is honestly really cute.
knotty mango
Shit sucks man...
old marlin
She is
knotty mango
She is very cute
minor ore
Too bad she has maybe 3 lines and they're all exposition on Josuke.
knotty mango
Slothy can vouch
knotty mango
Character i like better have an important role
old marlin
@minor ore how much do you like Kyo
I'm gonna rank the JJL girls I remember, it's either based on sex appeal or how good they are
lilac pumice
Daiya though, thats some good stuff
lilac pumice
Yashuo>Daiya> and from here on idk
old marlin
Yasuho > Hato > Daiya > Mitsuba > Karera > Kyo >>>>>>>>>>>> Kaato
I like Yasuho a LOT all around
lilac pumice
Hato that high?
lilac pumice
I prefer Daiya tbh
old marlin
Jailbait
knotty mango
Sex appeal
Kyo>>daiya>Yasuho>hato>karera>>>kaato
lilac pumice
Im 17 and shes legal where I'm from
knotty mango
She dont look like ti doe mike
old marlin
Mistuba is a Milf
lilac pumice
Mitsuba is a great mom
old marlin
But damn you really did Hato like that
lilac pumice
She will likely die
remote tree
yeah
old marlin
Sure
knotty mango
hato is ugly doe
minor ore
Hato's okay, I'm going off of personality.
old marlin
Like it's impossible for her to be ugly
minor ore
Honestly Mitsuba has some really great growth and the Wu fight made her go up a lot in my rankings.
However!
lilac pumice
I mean Daiya as a complete Package aswell
knotty mango
Eh i dont like blondes
minor ore
Yasuho is best.
old marlin
Oh well I really like Karera as a character
lilac pumice
Yashuo is a no brainer
knotty mango
Kyo doe dem maid girls doe
old marlin
I love characters like her
lilac pumice
Yeah but remember how Mitsuba called that one chicks hand a forepaw
minor ore
Yasuho is just written well, she's actually enjoyable unlike most female pro/deuteragonists.
(Just sayin'.)
lilac pumice
Yashuo is the Jobro of Part 8, You cannot change my mind
minor ore
Yeah I agree, looking more closely.
remote tree
IDK man there's lots of good female protags out there
old marlin
"Rai"