#jojolion
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like what
Pucci could always see
why would you think that
I'm not
the seeing in time thing was a theory that i stopped talking about a while ago
I'm talking about affecting stopped time now
and you haven't given an actual valid reason why not
i kinda already did
Burden of proof buddy
Why is time stand the connection you choose
Araki never says it
Its never implie
D
Well
because people can make theories
I've given you proof
No you havent
you just don't like it
king crimson can affect time stop because made in heaven can accelerate time stop, showing that time related powers can affect each other
Mih is time stand it can affect stopped time kc is a time stand gh us it can see in see in stopped time
Nice jump
Affect
Not see
ok I'm sorry but I cannot understand you at all
Just because muh can affect it doesnt mean kc can
Just because they are both time stands
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That's a big ass jump
not really
I forgot where I put my pants
Thus
My pants were moved in stopped time
See?
That's the jump your doing
no it's not?
Yes it is
You cant say just because they are both time stands
And mih affects timestop
So does erased time
there's no reason it can't though
Have you ever heard of burden of proof
have you ever heard of just disagreeing with someone for no reason
No
shocking
I'm having a debate about why kc cant beat him
I'm not debating that
And you have never heard of burden of proof apparently
dio wins because vampirism
This is a mini point between that
so jotaro
Basically yeah
meti is one of the 3 good jojo YouTubers
havenāt seen that one
This video was bull
but metiās usually pretty good about stuff
i really donāt think you have though
Yes I have lmao
your explanation makes no sense, no offense
Alright
Again I go
10 seconds before
He sees dio pose
Then him get donuted
He erases time
hold up
@fleet pier, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
dio without vampirism means he doesn't have the 10 second time stop
max of 5 seconds then
Ye
just a note
Kk
But the donut already happened in stopped time
Which kc cant affect
He moves over
But is still donuted in stopped timw
king crimson works like deleting a clip in a movie
so it actually destroys a timeline and creates a new one
Yeah
So
Dio donute him in stopped time
Then diavalo moves over instantly in dios eyes
But he was donuted in erased time which he cant affect
everyone does what they would have done in that 10 seconds
Mhm
but diavolo doesnāt have to
of course it can
Nothing but time stop can
time stop fits in 10 seconds
dio doesnāt move fast in time stop, he just stops time
a second is just a unit of measurement made up by people
do you have any proof that time erase can't affect time stop
Do you have proof that it can
do you have proof that it can't
the time stoppage fits within the 10 seconds
Ever heard of burden of proof buddy
you actually brought this up before my point
i think you should prove your point first
itās not that it canāt be deleted because it isnāt a second
I'm asking about your point
Which obe
itās that as an event that takes place during a period of 10 seconds, it can be deleted by kc
It's not an event
it's an event
of course itās an event
Nope it happens in 0 seconds
dio doesnāt delete time
it's an event that only dio experiences
it doesn't happen in "0 seconds", it happens "between" seconds, in a way
No that isnt time stop
that's what time stop is
Time has literally stopped
see the 10 second time loop is instant, but itās still placed inside the 10 second interval
things don't happen in erased time
yeah, they do
see aerosmith's bullets
Araki has made a couple plot holes with that
as if kc and diavolo were incorporeal
Mhm
But the official explanation is that they still happen
Nah the effects remain
the effects remain but the actions don't happen
kc covers deleting that period of time
Yeah so he still gets donutes
so dio would donut the air where diavolo would have been if he hadnāt used kc
except aerosmith's bullets
they passed through him
diavolo could be seen as intangible during erased time
with aerosmithās bullets, kc deleted the ten seconds when narancia was shooting, during which he dodged the bullets and went back
from everyone elseās perspective, it looks like the bullets just went straight through him
then the same concept still applies
imagine time as a kickball. kc pops the kickball so that diavolo can mess with it while he can see the entire surface of the ball at once
then, he unpops the ball, with the changes intact
thereās more to it than that
but thatās how the time part of it works
That's a bit of a pothole then
Because buccelatir
Shows that he can still be damaged if he erases that time
With that example
Kc pops it no one nut him sees he pops it while he pops it
Then after the ten seconds
Its popped
Magically
Buccilati fight
I'm choosing this because it is literally the reveal
And the dio counting th air
Donuting
Would only happen if
He can affect time stop
Which there is no evidence for
are you talking about when buccelati did the zipper arm thing
that hit him before he erased time
i know he cuts himself at one point
it kinda is
popo is cute
polpo is cuter
ok i checked the chapter
he also didn't hit him in erased time
he hit him right after
Didnt he?
Well I still think he can be harmed in erased tine
the only time he gets hurt during it is when he hurts himself, which could just mean he's intangible to the world around him but not himself
it's implied pretty clearly
When
aerosmith's bullets, again
but can tusk access his dimension?
uhhh
Yeah
technically?
Infinite spin can pass past anyt gh ing
Well I guess ypu're right on he wins
Though I still think it depends on who activates first
Or whether or not he want to use epitaph to look into the future
well diego activated the world first and tusk still came waltzing in
Mhm
tusk is weird
So I think tusk can bypass it
act 4 with infinite spin just... exists. throughout all universes and apparently time
yeah it's just really hard to pull off
link?
Kc vs star platinum
never heard of this before
He said star platinum would win against anything
well uh
Not against kc specifically
he didn't
I dont think hes counting evolved stands
Yeah I dont think hes counting evolved stands
SP doesn't have copy powers
He said it in a Interview
part 3, copies the world. EoH, copies dio over heaven
EoH isn't canon
also jane there's one discrepancy i want to specify
@knotty mango i think araki was specifically talking about star platinum. not jotaro
the difference being that star platinum has incredible potential, but jotaro is a very merciful person, and also just a person at that. he has limits. and this limited person is the one controlling star platinum
I guess
if star plat didn't need a user, then yes, he would never ever lose
dio wouldn't but the world possibly could
well you said star plat earlier
Yeah
I'm gonna need to look for this interview
when was it tho
like if its right after part 3 its understandable
because remember, without josuke, jotaro would've died to a rat
Araki Hirohiko, the author of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, is interviewed by Shoko Nakagawa, an idol singer, voice actress, and illustrator. To watch 3/3, go to...
Around 4 40
@fleet pier
Oh so he "doesn't remember"
We know your secrets Araki
You're a jihadi japanese vampire mangaka who seeks to destroy the world.
Or maybe he's just a vampire that wants to cure depression with jojo
Bruh
@crystal patrol, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
are we going to see anything dio related in jojolion????
i hope so
we got kira doing the wryyyyyy cry
but thats it
gappy is so fucking cute and hot
Its the head doctoor lol
And if not the head doctor, Tooru and Kaato still exist
This is how cool kids walk to school
Ican neither confirmwhether or not āhe takes an lā
None of us can confirm it
i recently started jojolion and itās very straight
like itās very hetero
i donāt like it
biggest card against it for sure but otherwise its top tier
Why is the gallardo only 3M yen
what the shit
Where can I get one for that price, let alone a gold one
I like how people are saying the Hospital Boss is the main villain but who is the one currently in possession of the new rokakaka and probably manipulated Tsuguri to kill his own grandpa
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Was the Gallardo price a mistake on whoever translated the manga, or was it the price shown in Japanese too?
We actually don't know who manipulated Tsurugi, it probably wasn't even him who killed Norisuke, Jobin may have the rokaka but that doesn't mean he'll be the villain in the end, some other character can literally just off him instantly. And that Kaato would do anything to protect her son, even if her son is Jobin
And, seeing as how Akefu Satoru was nearby the school during the tsurugi incident, he has a hand at what's going on too
I thought he might be unconscious but not dead
What if he saved tsurugi
By getting rock illness and dying
aids
i thought it was rock disease
@grand tangle, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !
rock aids
the Stone Aids
If he was still alive in jojolion wouldnāt he be like 140 though
Yes
ok
@deep jacinth, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
Isn't that kinda SBR tho cuz it takes place in america? And kinda part 8 cuz it takes place in 2011 and has a prison names Stone Ocean?
I mean, the only alt part1 in sbr is the spin and the characters, while the setting is kinda part 6
the only reason the setting is part 6 is because it takes place in america
part 6 was just in prison and florida
And part8 isn't simply alt part4 because the main enemy in it kinda alludes more to part5
Iād imagine itāll be an alt jolyne because I donāt know who else would work
yea
Or maybe Araki will make an original character
Their going up against an entire organization, two waves of enemies from said organization. Stopping them from smuggling a harmful substance, and that the head of the organization has his own special team. Also that the said head of the organization is like a total enigma to everyone else
Johnny isn't british, but do you count him as part of alt part1?
well you see
Johnny's nails can shoot themselves
would you consider him a nail gun?
yes, yes you would because that's what he is
a construction tool
Johnny might not be British but he's a clear parallel to jonathan
but in all seriousness it's more so the fact that most of the main characters are related in name to those of part 1 and also what El Jefe said
nemesis = dio, who he loses to
pet named Danny
not a great relationship with his father
learns some ancient magical technique from an Italian man which is essential for the rest of the part
and most likely a lot more, because my memory is pretty awful
||and also don't you guys rember when Jonathan wouldnt have his honeymoon with erina until she fuckin bathed in mosquitos||
Holy shit I didnāt even realize the Danny reference
wait what?
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danny was the mouse right?
yeah the mouse
Johnny is a shit human
he's good
but then literal trees kill him
not my personal favorite but he's not a bad choice
trees?
ohhhh
that
fuckin trees
that was such a good arc
I loved johnny's sacrifice
with the sugar mountain?
What I meant to say was how could the danny thing go over anyone's head? It's literally one of the main reasons for johnny's guilt
i read jojolion
I just was reading along and my head never really hit me that both of them are named danny
but when was the tree
Shakedown Road
ok
snails man
They do crazy things when stands move ya back and forth
snails
johny sacrificed himself to rescue his son
Hot take, I hope Joubin isn't main antagonist because I hate the way speed king looks
Don't know which is the current design
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
lol I just found the site where the untranslated colored jojo volumes go
I am a rock
i am an iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Pretty sure it's top one
yeah, first one
that was his initial appearance, but of course araki went and changed it
his first appearance looked a lot better tbh
foreshadowing of World War 2
damn I cut the part out where he said that he's talking about Norisuke
i was expecting norisuke to be involved in tsurugi getting the rock disease but i guess not
Why did the Gold Gallardo only cost 3M yen
What's the difference between Doggystyle and Stone Free?
fuckin
Was it just a translation error? Has to be
do y'all think jojolion will ever get its shit together
based on the length of other parts it should be over sometime soon right?
these doctors are gonna be the last group of stand users
I guess nobody knows. Ah well
does part 8 have a main villain yet
nope
All of that "Araki forgot stuff" reminds me of that Joseph Fink tweet where he said he googles "Welcome to Nightvale characters" when he has to write a big episode
Because even he doesn't know what the fuck's going on
Well, what do you expect from somebody who think a gold Lamborghini costs 30,000USD?
Is that low or high idk cars
an average car is in that price range. A normal Gallardo would be 20M+ Yen A golden one, Over 800 Million Yen. It's a massive difference between 800 Million & 3 Million. in USD, Normal gallardo - 200k. Golden one - 7.5 Million.
I don't get the jojolion hate these days
The part is wrapping up in a few more chapters
And shit just got real after that tsurugi twist
But people still complain that it's too "unfocused" or too long
Define few lul
I think we have 1 more arc to go
Or if this one is the last then it's gonna be long af
Kinda like d4c
I think it's cause there's so much Araki isn't talking about for some reason
Lik Daiya
And Kyo
And the wall eyes
And the bite marks
Or Sakunami
Or Kaato
Or the blonde man
The blond man?
During early Jojolion, around Fun Fun Fun, Gappy gets a memory of a blonde man who we've yet to see
Wait who's sakunami?
my guess is that itās damo
Love Love Deluxe girl
Given how involved he was with kiraās and josefumis deaths, it would make sense that he would be one of the first people josuke remembers
Although now that I know what he looks like Iām tempted to say jobin
Im tempted to say retconn
Also how Josefumi has the Joestar birthmark, that's another one
Isnt that already answered?
Ah, I forgot what karera's surname was lol
As far as I know, no we do not know how Josefumi is a Joestar
Thatās probably been retconned

"Retcon" means that there is later evidence that goes against what was established, so unless we see a new josefumi memory without a star birthmark, then that ain't a retcon
And like, doesn't the josefumi birthmark thing appear after the new joestar family tree was shown? If araki isn't going to answer about the birthmark, I'd say he purposely left it that way to imply josefumi came from one of the branches, though we might not know which
Probably, but still an answer would be nice
Josefumi is jobins older son š³š³š³š³
Isn't that tsurugi?
Yeah, if we take into account Josuke's assumed age as the age of Josefumi, then he'd be 19
Wait guys i think i know the answer
So the sbr book gives a family tree with all the legitimate children, but we know in og universe joseph had an affair.
Therefore maybe a joestar in this universe had an illegitimate child from an affair too, and that child is josefumi, notice how he has the same hair as josuk4
Bam theory confirmed
That's not too far fetched honestly
araki has always been good at keeping the joestar bloodline sorted out. i'm sure josefumi will be explained
But will Araki say that by the end of Jojolion is the question?
Yee I hope so
Please Araki donāt forget

I'm not against the josefumi being an illegitimate child thing, but like, araki only did that for josuke cuz there was basically no other way other than an affair, or adoption, but affair
While this bloodline already has multiples of branches where josefumi coulda came from, personally, it'd be a dumb thing to just say he's an illegitimate son when like, there's family branches unexplored
I mean Araki could have just skippd into Jotaro's child if he wanted but went the unique route of it
Granted this allowed for interesting relations to come out of it
UNLIKE GIORNO 
Thatās the one thing Iām sad about with Giorno
Couldāve been some cool developments coming from the fact that heās Dio and Jonathanās son
But back on Jojolion
What unexplored branches are you talking about Jan?
Like joseph's siblings, george2's sibling
But...they really did....in the family tree in the book.....
Literally why does Giorno keep a picture of DIO in his wallet
Why does it matter to him
What's his emotional attachment to the father he never met
GIORNO TELL ME YOUR FEELINGS STOP BEING A MYSTERIOUS AND WISE FUCK
I bet giorno keeps a framed picture of dio on the desk beside his bed, or in his office
i think, that DIO is someone he wanted to meet
he doesn't have a great home life and he doesn't get along with his stepfather
we don't know about his relationship with his mother but she was never a spectacular parent either
well too bad we never got to see him talk about it cause he is literally one of the least emotional Jojos
he's a neglected child
like. of course he has emotional issues
i don't know if his mother would have told him anything about DIO. or if she even really knew anything
Yeah but he keeps a wallet picture
I just want like Giorno and like Bruno just fucking like
but, i think he keeps her picture of him because the guy in the picture is someone else he thinks he might be happier meeting or living with
"HEY GIORNO WHAT'S THAT IN YOUR WALLET"
"WELL IT'S MY BIOLOGICAL DAD AND [GOES ON EMOTIONAL TANGENT]"

yeah
I mean that may just be it
He may want to keep something from the father that abandoned him
I donāt think itās deeper then that
it's sorta his escape, i think
he wants to meet this other guy he's related to. he can't be worse than his mother, right?

but gio has his own ambitions and when he finds an opprotunity, he takes it, and so he and buccellati go spend the week taking over the local mafia
I Wish jotaro met gio
yeah i wish giorno got to meet the rest of his family
i think DIO would have been very happy to meet giorno, actually
You know I know people like the whole
"How Standalone Part 5 is"
But I really don't
Besides little appearances from Jotaro, a fight with Koichi, the climax with Polnareff and the origin of the stand arrows, the majority of the part has nothing connecting much
I mean yeah Giorno is DIO's son but that's barely explored
And like
Come on
The Zeppelis are Italian
CAESAR HAD 4 SIBLINGS
Every part besides 6 is independent honestly, they fill you in on the important stuff at the beginning
agreed, it is a bit of a tease
WHERE ARE MY ZEPPELIS ARAKI
Yeah but in the cases of Parts 2-4, there's a character from the previous part with them in the main cast
Or at least a non Jojo character related to a previous character, like Caesar
previous parts give a little background information about a couple characters and that dio guy. whatever
Like come on just make one of Bruno's crew a Zeppeli
Bruno Zeppeli
Guido Zeppeli
Leone Zeppeli
Panacottq Zeppeli
Narancia Zeppeli
Part 4 is like "these are stands, i'm your nephew and you're a bastard, btw your town stinks let's have a new adventure"
that janitor was caesar's brother
WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE EVERY CHARACTER A ZEPPELI HUH
he died so giorno could find the resolve to turn polpo's gun into a banana
Nephew oops
HIS NAME IS DIAVOLO ZEPPELI
what!!!!


His name is funny zeppeli
valentine is the alternate universe version of the janitor
JOTARO ZEPPELI
JOSUKE ZEPPELI
GIORNO ZEPELLI
JOLYNE ZEPELLI
JOHNNY ZEPPELI
gappy
and gappy
Gappeli
oh shit
Cursed
really though i don't think we needed any more zeppelis
they become jojo's friend, die, and jojo learns something
it kinda gets predictable after a while
They're a relic from a time when new abilities needed to be learned to progress
gyro was well done even if we all knew it was coming
Gyro didn't even feel like a zeppeli, he felt like the main jojo
I only knew it was coming cause I GOT SPOILED BY A FUCKING PEANUT
charlie brown spoils jojo
To specify
i wasn't spoiled but i was like 90% sure it was gonna happen from the first chapter
I was on a Discord server
And talking about how I'm still watching Part 3
And a few people mentioned their fave characters
Somebody mentioned Gyro
And another person named "Peanut" just said
"Oh Gyro! I was so said when he died!"
And just fucking
I got angry
And they said

This one asshole in a fightcade lobby spoiled gappy's identity, like straight up an exposition dump explaining the event in detail
I averted my eyes as soon as i could but it was already too late, i glanced upon something about a character sacrificing himself and combining with kira using a fruit
I challenged this chap to a duel as punishment
i already knew a bit about JJL when i started jojo
i started jojo cause JJL was ongoing and all my friends were talking about it and they made me agree to start it
All i knew going in was the sailor guy had 4 balls and he was made through some kind of fruit sacrifice
only real reason i hadn't was cause it was so long
From the start i always wanted to read jjl
It always captivated me
It's the most A E S T H E T I C part
a couple of my bros told me to just start with JJL and read the rest later :v
Imagine how confusing that'd be lol
Like chapter 1 and the only thing you know about the protag is that he has 4 balls and bubbles are his weapon
that's not that confusing. i don't expect to understand it all in the first chapter
tho the opening is kinda weird yeah
The opening is intriguing
i don't wanna be all "its better if you don't know whats going on" but it would still be interesting if you didn't have context from SBR or anything before
ya


Eh, honestly the more connections a part has to previous parts, the more I tend to enjoy it lol
It's a personal preference thing
so
the manga here is heating up huh?
Doctor Wuu bout to kill some more fodder lmao
donāt mind my avi just finished volume 1 and Iām lovinā it so far
got a little caught up with sekiro so I stopped for a while
so good
wait a second
her right leg looks like an ostrich's leg
or something idk like a bird leg
She's just bending it a bit
yeah now that I look at it not that bad, thought her left leg was completely reversed
Then there's this
I mean, it's possible
But you'd look like a weirdo if you actually walked that way
Not in JoJo 
@rich depot
Swerve on 'em.

Foolish mortal.
You assume he walks?
It only appears as such because you cannot comprehend his movement patterns.
That of the swerve.
Good.
That would be a very nice emote
it's like
a
burning
sunrise
I just caught up to the coloured manga. Tried reading a chapter in black and white and It's not that enjoyable anymore š¦

lmao this guy is getting jonathanād
Joshu best JoJo.
uhhh daiya 
Remember seeing joshu's ass in the Paper Moon King ark?
yeah
just started reading
@steady badger, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
chad
yall i just finished sbr and other than that ive watched the anime and im pretty much up to date with p5. Should i read p8 now?
@worthy prawn, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
Did you read Part 6?
Yeah, read part 8. It's coloured up to chapter 62 I think. After that its meh
It's colored to the "End" of Blue Hawaii.
Which isn't really the end of it.
But there are still great moments after that.
Ozone Baby, Doctor Wu, Mamezuki Rai.
I have no problem reading black and white tbh
I just have a tougher time reading the panels and following the motion.
Yeah agreed
I just fully caught up with Jojolion and goddam, Tsuguri is becoming a very dark character, I hope that panel isn't his doing
I still enjoy it, but I donāt always get what happens between panels.
black and white isn't an issue.
its just blck and white after reading everything else coloured
its a big change and now the manga feels lifeless. My app says they update the coloured version every 2 weeks but there hasnt been a new chapter for it in a while
sorry, and to answer your question i have not as i wanted to go in order for the main timeline
so i read 7 instead
Jojolion b&w > colored
said no one ever
I just did
In black and white it's near impossible to understand anything in the Doctor Wu arc
The rocks in part 8 look amazing in b&w
so much shit flying
Colors usually take away from the author's style
That must be why the anime is black and white too.. oh wait.
Thanks.
reading part 8 made me realize araki has no clue how to draw kids
You mean short, chubby adults?
yiss
is the new stand called black hole sun or something
The new stand isn't called anything yet
That's only speculation
Thought of a cool idea for a final antagonists stand, it's short and simple, he can move anyone he can see to any other place he can see which includes their stands
instead of having to delete time to avoid an attack or stop time, he just moves the guy to a spot where he'd be hitting his ally instead
new chapter next week, right?
k
So mixmaster, kinda like Boogie Woogie from Jujutsu Kaisen?
So electrified RHCP except he doesnāt need electricity now 
random question since I don't mind spoilers
is joshu as annoying as he looks like he is
Not really if you pay attention to his character
yes
joshu best jobro wym
let me just make this clear, the more the readers hate him, the most room for character development he has. Plus he's a good foil for the romantic aspect of part 8
tries to stab a dude because he's jealous, gets violent with the girl he feels entitled to, gropes her and tries to have sex with her, always tries to start shit with people, uses people for his own gain when he's somehow able to
even his family thinks he's a joke
Also sexually harassed his own mother, given he doesn't believe it, so he just sexually harassed a woman, though he also doesn't think she has any right in the house, so he sexually harassed a (his understanding)trespasser
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The fact that haato immediately blamed joshu for licking her ear, even though she has no proof, is a ways away from joshu, and joshu was busy drinking something, just shows how even his family sees him as this horrid goblin of a man
okay okay
i dont respect his character
i respect the potential for him to improve and how his shitty personality contrasts to sweet sweet josuke
As much as I hate to admit it Joshu, as a character, grew on me over the time I read
But I still feel as if he couldve been weaved into the story in a less redundant and a more influential way
However if he sorta "grows up" by the end of the journey and shapes up, then I'll take back what I said
money
?
i am wood
Are you ok reatard
Was the joke i was making
I didnt know if you could say it but you can.
å
@sacred totem I didnt like the arc either primarily bc 1) It was too short and couldve been expanded on and 2) WTF WAD THAT SHITTY ENDING LMAOOO
Joshu legit just like punched him twice and the arc ends
It couldve been a MUCH better stand fight
yea
they couldve "developed his character" but nah
nothing really happened
Araki prolly wanted an arc with Joshu and halfway through he was like this shit is dumb
Okay I take back everything I said about Joshu
WHY IS THIS DUDE OUT HERE TRYNA SUCK HIS MOMS TITTIES
PAUSE
Okay I would say Part 8 is my fav part but since Joshu is in it
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
ye
Like nothing about his character is appealing
Literally nothing
Not his clothes, not his design, not his morals, not his influence
Nothing
apparently he is supposed to be shit
The only thing cool is his stand ability
Like I dont get why araki added Joshu into Part 8 period
All he does is serve as a nuisance the whole time
to contrast Josuke?
And for a split second when I thought "oh boy the mangalo arc is here its time for him to get some character development"
Nope
Lets just try and molest a 2nd woman cause why not
Araki bamboozled you
Ye lol
But yeah
Also if its to contrast josuke
As a story element, it makes sense
100%
But its implementation is awful imo
It could've been done in a better way
Araki can make bad people cool
Yeah
I hate joshu
Joshu gets unfair hate
who was the second?
If I remember correctly the reason he acted so strangely with his mother is because he wanted to intentionally freak her out because he didnāt trust her
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 35 !
other than yasuho?
He doesnt have a mental illness and he didnt grow up in a shitty environment
His mom
HIS F U C K I N G mom
That was his way of trying to make her explain her reasons
Yeah there couldve been a
Significantly better way of going about it
Instead of his first instinct being like
There is, but thatās Joshu.
"Lemme undress her and try to suck her titties as a threat"
He jumps the gun, and doesnāt think quickly
Itās exaggerated because itās a story
Yeah that character trait is fine on its own but like I said its implementation for Joshu isnt good
Joshu just doesnt have a reason for being an asshole
he just is
when people try to help him he shuns them
he is a shitty person
Thatās how people are sometimes
I dont know about shitty character yet because the part isnt over
Yeah
Like if his background was really shitty like he got abused alot or didnt have a wealthy environment
I would understand
Affluenza
Just his personality
There are many reasons for him to act as he is
Heās a lil bitch for one
What are some reasons for him assaulting 2 women
true
fuck joshu
there should be a channel just for hating Joshu
and maybe giorno
I love Josuke tho
Josuke is like the most likeable JoJo, and also just a modern day JoJo
Even though Part 5 took place in 2001 Giorno doesnt feel "modern" if that makes any sense
He is the goofiest Jojo thats for sure
joseph
Joseph was more hot headed if anything
Goofy wouldnt be a good word to describe Joseph
He's more...
Satiristic
Josuke is not goofy on purpose imo
which is ok
it's more natural
and he has a genuine friendship with Yasuho and truly cares for her
which is really nice
True true
Yeah and then he's also a fucking sociopath
Joseph is like Joshu but with less female assault and less failure
wat
Wait actually
and joseph is likable, grows as a person, funny, charming, and just wayyyy better
Nvm that similarity didnt make sense
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
Lmao
Yes
Like if you read Part 8 I dont think its physically possible to dislike Josuke
I think he's a pretty crazy fella
not crazy, clueless
He doesn't seem to really emotionally connect to anyone besides Yasuho and maybe Norisuke
imo
And he kills pretty much everyone he fights
holy shit
Without hesitation
He cares about Holly too nvm
so Josuke is a mix of yoshikage kira and josefumi
woah no way
Josefumi never had anyone come to him and he felt lonely until kira reached out to him
He seems to borrow his strange emotions from Kira but they got mixed with Josefumi's and he got some sort of complex
kira was driven and was willing to do anything to save holly
he loves who ever is close
but is willing to go to the extremes to protect them
through his limited view of the world he believes what he is doing is right
@sacred totem, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
Gonna have to disagree with you there Frost. I think a few occasions Josuke literally asks for permission to kill his opponent. So I dont think he is a relentless killer lol
and plus he only kills rock people and not to be racist but do they really count?
Josuke is interesting but his character doesn't get really expanded upon which is kinda sad
It got expanded through Kira and Josefumi but he's his own person
Agreed but from what we have seen already I think his character is really good
Yeah he's cool
But he has some weird mood changes
Like he hasn't been his old goofy self since Damo
You could say that it's because the story got more serious now
yea
Well thats to be expected when you have 0 memories of yourself imo. I would be the same way. I wouldnt know how to feel
and yasuho portrays herself onto Josuke as a way to empower herself (this idea isnt very fleshed out)
my idea that is
Jojolion could've fleshed out its characters a bit more but then it just got villain of the week
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