The comedy of part 8 is great compared to the other parts
#jojolion
minor ore
Joshu is cast aside as an asshole but nothing he has done he started
I really like Joshu as a character
minor ore
I agree with you on that
pine pawn
Sometimes I feel kinda bad for joshu lol
minor ore
I’m still with the theory that Tooru is the final villain
pine pawn
like everyone in story hates him too
minor ore
The whole rock people thing added mystery then it lost its touch a while down the line
minor ore
I want it to be Jobin but I think it’ll be Tooru
minor ore
Shake down road is one of the best arcs in part 8 imo
minor ore
it’s beyond slice of life at this point lol
pine pawn
araki didn't have a proper direction for it either
minor ore
at least part 4 had a distinct goal
pine pawn
it kind of turned half way but yeah it had a better goal
minor ore
Part 4 started with a killer mucking around
pine pawn
I really like par 4
minor ore
But what was Akira's motivation in the first place?
pine pawn
enya i think
minor ore
Reminder that Red Hot Chili Pepper is one of the most busted stands in the series
pine pawn
yup
minor ore
A’s in everything but precision and can donut lol
"I want to play like Jimi Hendrix!"
kills Okuyasu's brother for no reason
Let me resend the theory I found that I think would be plausible
pine pawn
sure
minor ore
“Theory.
Tooru is the Head Doctor. His Stand lets him manipulate another person's memories, and he's been doing this to Yasuho ever since bumping into her during the Doctor Wu fight, making her believe that the two of them went out.
He's also been using his Stand on hospital staff such as the receptionist. The receptionist believes that the old man in the pimp coat is the Head Doctor because that's what Tooru wants him to believe. The old man in the pimp coat thinks he's the Head Doctor for the same reason, or is just some random old guy who's totally unaware of what's going on around him.
Pimp coat is a diversion and scapegoat.”
pine pawn
sounds plausible
minor ore
The second half I think is deeper than that
pine pawn
but whats his goal
minor ore
I think his stand involves people pursuing/investigating him
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
pine pawn
the only person with a real goal is josuke and even then its just get the fruit
minor ore
Even then we saw a stand in the staircase
and who did it go toward?
Not the person doing all the talking
Not Yasuho
But Josuke
It’s obviously Tooru’s stand
pine pawn
I need to read some of part 8 I was quite lost in the last few chapters
minor ore
What happens to Gappy once he gets the fruit?
pine pawn
reread
minor ore
I might reread too
minor ore
Gives it to his mum
She loses her lower jaw and fingers, rendering her almost incapable of communicating
pine pawn
the one who looks like jotaro
minor ore
She still works for the family
pine pawn
also the higashikata family should use their stands to help
minor ore
Their stands have niche uses
pine pawn
they're introduced to have stands but literally only joshu really uses his
minor ore
Lol isn’t Norisuke dead rn
pine pawn
also what happened to norisuke's wife
minor ore
I will cry very manly tears
pine pawn
jobin is shit
minor ore
Honestly, the latter half of SBR has me hyped for the final fight of JJL
It’s gotta be some absolutely absurd crazy shit
"I love you dad, lol"
Speed Kings his own family into oblivion because he deals with rock people
pine pawn
lol
minor ore
But I really don’t know what direction it’ll take
Nothing is truly happening
Besides this Head Doctor
pine pawn
when was the corpse introduced again?
minor ore
In SBR?
minor ore
Early SBR
pine pawn
like chapter wise
minor ore
I’d guess 20 to 30
pine pawn
well
minor ore
The head doctor is Steely Dan
spice crystal
when they found the first part?
pine pawn
its a bit late
spice crystal
that was in the devil’s palm
minor ore
Yeah I’m basing it off that too
spice crystal
so yeah, around 20-30
pine pawn
I really hope araki somehow manages to pull a good story and goal out
like kira or the holy corpse
minor ore
The holy corpse did fuck all in part 8
Jojolion is so good so far, but it absolutely needs a good ending
pine pawn
it gave a secondary direction
minor ore
Just gave the local trees a stand and killed Johnny
pine pawn
which ended up becoming the primary
minor ore
I think I’m gonna reread JJL starting tomorrow
pine pawn
Jojolion sometimes feels a bit anticlimatic :/
minor ore
I agree
pine pawn
cus I still dont understand the freaking goals of everyone
wtf is that stone human with seaweed
where were some of these stone ppl when the first group showed up
jwlfglwg
minor ore
I recovered the Holy Corpse, it is so powerful
gives disease to him
pine pawn
like that one fight with the underground stand
and virus stand
I still don't understand hell about those characters
minor ore
That was the shittest read for me in part 8
minor ore
Love Love Deluxe?
It's not like I struggled reading the virus stand fight but it was just terrible to read
pine pawn
I was basically skimming through
minor ore
^^
pine pawn
I was barely reading tyhe text
minor ore
Uhhh
minor ore
He is so fucking lame
minor ore
I wish Poor Tom killed him
The best parts so far are the beetle fight, anything with Joshu tbh, and Vitamin C
imo
minor ore
What about Shake Down Road?
pine pawn
its really creative and terrifying
minor ore
It was good
pine pawn
i dont really understand shakedown road and its purpose
minor ore
Vitamin C is really fucking strong
@pine pawn Cheeky bonding with Gappy and Joshu in a banter filled arc
pine pawn
its weird
spice crystal
mamezuku’s stand is just better used stone free
minor ore
The Malargo Man arc was great imo
pine pawn
ps where did the nickname gappy come from
spice crystal
gap in his teeth
pine pawn
cus I only recently caught up
minor ore
His gap teeth
pine pawn
ohh
k
but yeah so far i'm not really a fan of part 8
tho I really like this world kira
pine pawn
out of the parts its probably the lesser half for me
minor ore
JJL Kira is awesome
But when it is over, I’m sure Araki will remind me why I love his work.
spice crystal
JJL Kira is one of my fav characters from the SBRverse
minor ore
It is really good in terms of characterisation but it just does not have a strong direction for plot
pine pawn
I was uncertain about part 7 cus I was mourning from part 6 but it really blew me away
I have faith that araki will blow us away with part 8 too
minor ore
Part 7 is one of the best stories I’ve ever read.
pine pawn
its so funny
minor ore
"uncertain about part 7"
Uhhhhh
pine pawn
cus its probably the best part
minor ore
part 7 is THE best story I ever read
minor ore
part 8 so far is my 2nd favourite part
pine pawn
cripple enters horse race to chase man who has steel balls to heal his legs
accidentally finds the corpse of jesus christ
which gives him powers to shoot his nails like a gun
minor ore
Cross country horseback race created by the president to gather the limbs of Jesus Christ to make America great again
Yes, I read that part also
pine pawn
jesus then tells cripple to have courage and kill the president
also there are dinosaurs
amazing
I love diego
minor ore
AU Diego 😏
Gappy would stomp the steel ball run race
He removes the friction between him and ground and just slides to the other side of the country
pine pawn
lmfao
minor ore
Until he 'loses' that power
I’m gonna head to sleep for my lectures tomorrow, it was great talking to you two!
goodnight
pine pawn
same I need to continue work
minor ore
@minor ore Gnight bro luv you xx
coral hatch
fuck you joshu
kind owlBOT
@coral hatch, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
coral hatch
i forgot made in heaven resetted the universe again
minor ore
#justiceforjoshu
Alright, serious question
What do you guys listen to while reading jojolion
Milargo man arc summed up
btw that fight was actually really good and memorable
indeed
God bless joshu
I listen to Disturbed/Five Finger Death Punch or SOAD
I just decided to read jojo manga and kinda forgot to turn off music so i liked it
Alternative music for jjl? Interesting
I dunno what the music i listened to is called but it's like relaxing synthwave
Since it suits the feel of jjl for me
Oh man i still remember reading the first few chapters alone at midnight with all the lights off while listening to those beautiful tracks
Actual heaven
still scroll
i’m violently uncomfortable
minor ore
She is evil tho,he sensed it and tried to protect his family
soft raptor
Why are people so bothered by this 💀
still scroll
because it’s uncomfortable
soft raptor
Just Joshuu being a chad as usual
still scroll
he’s a mistake
soft raptor
I find him funny
white beacon
Considering joshuu.... I'm pretty sure there's a bit of literal in it
minor ore
He's watched one too many step mom videos
First thing gappy does upon waking up is beating the shit outta the nearest man in sight, chaddest jojo
crystal patrol
Gappy makes me happy
minor ore
^^^^^^^^^^^
warm gulch
Early joshu is an abomination
minor ore
"I'll kill you, then i'll kill myself!"
white beacon
I mean, gappy was about to get bricked right then and there, there's not really much he could do
minor ore
A lesser man would have instantly used his stand to kill joshu
crystal patrol
Seeing how Gappy acts later, I’m surprised he didn’t, but then again he was just waking up
Wonder what he would’ve done in a more clear mindset
minor ore
he'd have probably won the fist fight for starters
I kinda want a lot more of gappy fist battles, these feel like actual street fights instead of part 1's punch barrages
hollow flint
hey so can i present my dumb jojolion theory here
minor ore
Uhh i guess
hollow flint
nice
my memory on jjl is a bit fuzzy, but I have a theory on who the head doctor is
minor ore
Have at it my dude
hollow flint
what if it's the guy in gappy's vision all the way back in the "Fun, Fun, Fun" arc
and he at the roka fruit, and in exchange for something, he lost his y o u t h
making him super old
minor ore
Cool theory, might actually be true if this wasn't araki.
He's more than likely forgot all about that guy, and so did i until being reminded of him last month, what i think is that guy might have been just an early concept of kira
Or maybe josefumi
hollow flint
yeah, its entirely possible that he forgot all about him, kinda like josukes savior in part 4
minor ore
One thing i hate that he forgot was the teeth marks
hollow flint
didn't the wall eyes bite you, and then you got a stand? whatever happened to that?
minor ore
How did the rock humans/other people get a stand before the wall eyes
grizzled pilot
sports maxx at it again
white beacon
What kind of body part would make you get suddenly older? I don't think the rokakaka exhanges abstract things like age, and the things it exchabges still become stone
grizzled pilot
the rock humans are born with stands right?
minor ore
Not everyone
grizzled pilot
yeah but the ones we care about
hollow flint
define "care about"
minor ore
They had to have someway to make other into stand users
Like what about norisuke
How'd he get his stand?
Why does literally every higashikata have a stand?
hollow flint
im pretty sure one of the ways someone can get a stand is through the abstract art of "w i l l p o w e r"
grizzled pilot
bloodline thing?
minor ore
The OG norisuke in sbr never had one i think
grizzled pilot
that we know of 🤔
minor ore
The joestars in the original universe also never had a stand before dio awoke
hollow flint
some characters in the og universe had "willpower" stands, like Pearl Jam
judging from the sbr universe family tree, it doesn't look like the higashikatas got their stands via bloodline
minor ore
My head canon is maybe the wall eyes did it since it's in their backyard
hollow flint
and they all got bit eventually?
minor ore
But then again joshu never had a stand till he was bit
The mysteries are still too stong
I kinda hated how the part shifted focus from solving mysteries to growing fruit
There's still so much to solve
hollow flint
yeah, i wish they played out josukes amnesia throughout the part, with the fruit being the macguffin that would provide the answers in some way
minor ore
Nah josuke getting his memories back was great, i just wish we solved a bit more mysteries before taking down the fruit mafia
Like the teeth
And how people get stands now
hollow flint
honestly im convinced jjl will end with everyone vs josuke
theres so many "could be the big bad because theyve had more development than the minor villains but also they're kinda left to dry forever" characters
minor ore
Nah i'm think there will be no "main bad guy" since it's too late now, it will end with josuke retrieving the fruit and curing his mother with it.
But then josuke dies exchanging his life for holly's
hollow flint
thats all too possible
kind owlBOT
@hollow flint, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
hollow flint
Also i feel like yasuho might die or be kidnapped by her ex whos name i forgot
or if her ex is the penultimate villain
minor ore
Tooru
I'm banking on the head doctor being the closest thing to a main villain
Au diavolo
hollow flint
thatd be interesting, having au part 5 be involved
seeing as sbr was parts 1-3 basically
minor ore
The head doctor can't be anything other than a diavolo, he's an anonymous head of a secret crime syndicate
I'd love if he's set up during part 8 and is the main villain of part 9
That's never been done before
void viper
I mean it was kind of true with parts 1 and 3
But I’ll admit that would be cool as long as it means part 9 isn’t part 8 again
minor ore
I want it to be that Tooru is the final villain
minor ore
I'm currently betting on two theories:
One is as you said tooru is doppio and head doctor is diavolo
Second is that tooru is aware of the roka business and the new branch, and he helps out the crew to gain their trust so he can learn the location of the new fruit and make a bigger profit
crystal patrol
Fuck that’s actually such a cool theory
Like I was already entirely convinced that Tooru is one of the head doctor’s lankies of sorts
But what about how Tooru literally pointed over to where the head doctor was sitting?
void viper
I think he is as well but as I said before in the same way Diavolo is Doppio
minor ore
Nah not like that at all
In my own theory
That I only thought about because of another theory I saw
void viper
Or the head doctor is a hallucination caused by his stand
minor ore
Like ya know how Yasuho originally said she’s never done anything with a guy
and now says her and tooru did some things
void viper
Oh that’s a really good point actually
Unless yasuho was lying for whatever reason of course but I really doubt that
minor ore
Also the fact that the stand in the stairwell seemed to “attack” Josuke
Not the person talking
Not Yasuho
But the guy who was kind of just standing there
Girls always lie about that kind of stuff because it makes their new bfs angry
Completely normal
I fully believe it was Tooru’s stand, and that it’s ability is to manipulate memories
void viper
I mean that’s true but if I remember rightly josuke had just been pulled out of the ground and had no memories at all
I don’t think he would’ve minded too much
minor ore
Lemme send the theory that turned me into a believer
She also barely knew him why would she divulge personal details
void viper
It’s not really that personal to say “yeah I’ve had a boyfriend”
minor ore
“Theory.
Tooru is the Head Doctor. His Stand lets him manipulate another person's memories, and he's been doing this to Yasuho ever since bumping into her during the Doctor Wu fight, making her believe that the two of them went out.
He's also been using his Stand on hospital staff such as the receptionist. The receptionist believes that the old man in the pimp coat is the Head Doctor because that's what Tooru wants him to believe. The old man in the pimp coat thinks he's the Head Doctor for the same reason, or is just some random old guy who's totally unaware of what's going on around him.
Pimp coat is a diversion and scapegoat.”
But it is personal to say i got fingered
Heheh
void viper
minor ore
The only sort of weird thing is the head doctor being at the school
void viper
That’s the only part that doesn’t fit
Unless his stand can manipulate the “memory” of electronics
minor ore
He's corrupting tsurugi 100%
void viper
I still think that’s probably a separate thing
minor ore
It fits with my theories, the head doctor knows his time is gonna be up if he doesn't do something asap so he decides to corrupt a naive member of the family
void viper
But tsurugi has always been a bit off since the paper moon king arc
Unless it’s revealed he’s been corrupted since before then
minor ore
Exactly why HD would try corrupting him more, he already has the seeds of evil in him
minor ore
He's the boss of the whole operation he knows everything
void viper
I suppose but that seems a little bit handwavey to me
Like I get that he’d know about the family but unless there was someone on the inside feeding him into he wouldn’t know what they were like
minor ore
Maybe his stand has something to do with it
void viper
Maybe it’s joblin
grizzled pilot
a stand that can read and change minds
minor ore
Or maybe he just went for tsurugi because he's the youngest and most impressionable
What if joshu is the head doctor
He's a scientific lad
void viper
Joshu is Doppio the hair cut is Diavolo
void viper
Joshu’s hair cut amplifies epitaph so he can predict the entire future rather than just 10 seconds
crystal maple
Where is this from which chapter
white beacon
Pretty sure that's an edit
minor ore
That looks really early on in jojolion
Judging by the hat
Try the fun fun fun arc
sbr
Uhhh
Jjl
Sorry i'm feeling really dizzy
crystal maple
Thanks
Also
kind owlBOT
@crystal maple, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
crystal maple
What if the head doctor is au giorno?
I mean do we know for sure that the head doctor is pure evil?
What about that stand that seemed to be ready to attack josuke at the stairways.
It didnt actually attack
And what if they are using the rokaka in a more legal and right way than we think
I mean it is a cure for anything
And logically you cant just have it for free
Also i really want to know more about the wall eyes
And the rock humans origin
I mean where were they in sbr?
minor ore
Rock humans were explained
Wall eyes were too
Also the fruit business is evil because they exploit their customers so they keep coming back and losing more and more
Therefore HD is evil because he's heading the whole thing
wild ingot
I haven't read jojolion in a few months but its felt realy un focused, no crew, no clear main villan, araki forgot about the invisible dog bites giving stands,I was hoping katto would be the main villan like her card power could be time displacement. Thoghts?
crystal patrol
Well the reason it feels this way is because how far apart chapters come and it makes it feel so...displaced?
Kaato is still a factor
But we haven’t seen her in what feels like a long while because of how long it’s been since the last chapter she was in was released
summer tree
I mean chapters were far apart with Part 7 and thay turner out amazing
crystal patrol
Yeah but I doubt most of us were reading part 7 at the time chapters were being published
summer tree
Yeah, we can appropriately judge Part 8 when it's finished
crystal patrol
For sure
summer tree
I mean the Funny Valentine fight went on for TWO YEARS
Imagine having to deal with that in real time
crystal patrol
My friend’s waiting till it’s all out to read it, which is smart. It won’t feel so scattered if read altogether
Oh for sure
Once Jojolion is finished, ima read it again since it’ll be all there for me
summer tree
I might do the same, depends on the ending
minor ore
The part that spanned between damo and poor tom was pretty unfocused but they picked up the pace afterwards
cosmic frost
i miss jobin
summer tree
Jobin was in Poor Tom last, it hasn't even been a year since Poor Tom ended
minor ore
Just as crazy as the people who think kaato is the main villain
summer tree
Alright but still
minor ore
what villainous plans do they even have
summer tree
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/jjba/images/2/2b/Flashback.png/revision/latest?cb=20160103111617
Who tf is this
Please Araki
minor ore
Kira early design
cosmic frost
this could be the early design of damo
summer tree
There was like a photo of Kira in that chapter so no
cosmic frost
very early design
summer tree
Yeah, well it can't be Kira
cosmic frost
kira wears a sailor outfit
minor ore
Josefumi early design 
Until he decided there were enough emo lookin haircuts and gave him the good ol pomp
summer tree
Early Jobin and early Damo are the most popular answers but I'd be upset if that was all it was
it's the head doctor
cosmic frost
i mean damo makes the most sense
cosmic frost
he was the last guy that kira and josefumi really saw
or the most influential person
minor ore
Geeeech i thought your pfp is fugo licking yasuho
minor ore
Fugo is tooru
minor ore
@minor ore this reminded me of your theory about tooru, you might be right dude
I rest my case
minor ore
More like foreshadowing that just feels like Rai being an asshole
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
Rai is a chad mofo
Most chad jobro since speedwagon
Can we get some appreciation for this badass right here
He's cool don't get me wrong, that doesn't excuse him from being an asshole too
Yasuho didn't deserve what he did to her
He's like the rohan of jjl, being an asshole is exactly why he's cool
minor ore
can i be honest with y'all?
Is it just me or does he have sort of a native american design?
A futuristic part 9 sounds fucking stupid
and i hope not
What would you want for part 9?
I honestly want something like ancient rome or greece
or hell even the 70s
since araki just kinda breezed by that era
Likely not possible
We only ever move forward, except for universe resets
look man this isn't the jetsons
and scifi is overdone
that kind of setting i mean
it's oversaturated
Who said anything about space ships and lasers
Could be set in 2020
Like jjl was set in the year it was made
2011
which i wasn't a fan of
he once again skipped the 70s
Not like the time period matters a lot anyway, part 3 was set in the 80s and felt modern day
Same with part 4
And 5
And 6
6 was md
tho
Yeah, but it feels like nothing really changed from 3 to 6
7 was the change
They all had the same feel
Yeah
8 changed things up a lot with phones
Since they play into the plot sometimes
And yasuho does cool stuff with them
idk im not excited for any futuristic setting
im much more interested in the historical settings at this point
they're more interesting really
Idk i'm not that concerned with time periods, more with the style of each part
If it has a unique style i like it
crystal patrol
I am in love with Jojolion’s style
It’s not my favorite part but it has my favorite style in JoJo so far
minor ore
Part of the reason jjl is my favorite is the trippy A E S T H E T I C feel to it
minor ore
They even incorporate the anime's famous color shifts into the colored manga
grizzled pilot
hmm pretty sure it's the other way around
minor ore
I mean it's the first part that shifts colors in a fight like the anime
The anime did it because they wanted to recognise the fact that there are no canon colors
minor ore
Yellow dio
minor ore
White part 4 jotaro
grizzled pilot
hermit purple is, suprise suprise, purple
minor ore
Hierophant green
i WoNdER wHaT CoLOr iT Is
minor ore
The setting of futuristic is oversaturated was my point
Modern day is not futuristic, and i haven't seen a lot of sci fi media lately to the point it's over saturated
minor ore
Exactly
white beacon
JJL was a manga set in the present, but still continuing in the past
grizzled pilot
JJL is an alternate history manga
soft raptor
I was hoping Araki would do a part in the far future to explore the origin of the meteor that gives stands
summer tree
Maybe Part 9
soft raptor
Plus it would be cool to see aliens
minor ore
I want Part 8 to be the last
soft raptor
Like mikitaka
minor ore
Please retire Araki
summer tree
No no no
minor ore
He’s gonna be at least 61 when Part 8 ends
Araki said he wanted to retire in his 60's, and he's 59 so
minor ore
He won’t have time to finish another part by the time he is like 73
soft raptor
soft raptor
He can keep it relatively short
minor ore
I think Araki could finish Part 8 and Part 9 in the span of the next 10 years
soft raptor
Plus he doesnt seem to have any health issues nor is he suffering from burnout
minor ore
He seems to enjoy his work so probably not
minor ore
The pros of jojo's parts is araki can do whatever he wants without feeling restricted
I think this is more therapy for him than work
soft raptor
Fax
If he wrote a continous story like one piece he would legit have gotten cancer by now
minor ore
I just think it’s insane the amount of work he has to when a part is being made
Like making 20 some pages every week for two decades
He takes brakes very frequently
and then making 40-60 every month
it’s just an insane, constant workload
Writing is something that can be easily burned out on
white beacon
With the monthly sched at least he has more breathing room
soft raptor
How long are his breaks after he finishes a part?
minor ore
maybe he loves what he does
white beacon
I'm amazed he didn't burnout after part5 when like, he hasn't took a break since
minor ore
Part 7 ended and a month later Part 8 started
He was kinda burnt out in part 6 and you could feel it
The gap between Part 6 and Part 7 was 6 months tho
minor ore
That’s what I’m saying. It’s literally insane to me.
white beacon
Yeah he was burnt out in 6 but the overall quality was still pretty high imo, and still kept the pace to having 175 chapters
summer tree
I mean we will know for sure
soft raptor
His comments about the ending of 6 kinda showed that
summer tree
The moment Part 8 ends
We'll know the answer in a month likely
You know that's kinda surreal to think about
The moment Part 8 ends
summer tree
We might get Part 9 started right afterwards
minor ore
I'd say we've entered the april something something arc of part 8
The one that came before bites the dust
Where they go through all the stand users yoshihiro makes
Araki stated we are heading into the climax of Part 8 so I think we have at most 20 more chapters
summer tree
So like
summer tree
this is the Cheap Trick of Jojolion?
minor ore
Huh
I read somewhere that, unlike Part 7, Part 8 chapters were always labeled with 3 digits
Oof
Pls no
I love jjl but pkease don't
So instead of chapter 01# we've got 001#~
NO
soft raptor
Is that significant?
minor ore
Maybe Araki aimed since the beginning for this to last at least 100 chapters
100 volumes you mean?
soft raptor
Oh
minor ore
I mean, it could be? It is something strange since up till the beginning of Part 8, Part 7 chapters always had 2 digits
white beacon
Don't think it's significant much since almost all other parts hit above 100
minor ore
Oh chapter i thought you meant volume
Lmao
It is significant since this is the first completely monthly released part
minor ore
Jjl has like 2 years ahead of it imo
Maybe 1
100 volumes would be more than thrice the size of SBR so no way
soft raptor
Yh 2 to 3
minor ore
We might get part 9 and SO anime in the same month actually
soft raptor
summer tree
I mean the prediction for Stone Ocean is actually 2020 rn
soft raptor
That would be delightful
minor ore
The true Part 9 turns out to be the friends we made along the way
inb4 Eyes of Heaven is cannon. /s
It is
soft raptor
I hope we get another female Jojo
spice crystal
i hope we get a good female jojo
minor ore
what the heck did you just say about jolyne
minor ore
Eh, as long as the design and personality is good the gender doesn't matter
Jolyne is 10/10
summer tree
Part 9 will be an futuristic colonized Florida inspired by Italian culture. The part will star the JOESTAR sisters, a pair of incestous future sci fi mobster mafia girls
soft raptor
Jolyne is better then Giorno
minor ore
What are you smoking man
soft raptor
Lol
spice crystal
giorno is best jojo
crystal patrol
Jolyne is good
spice crystal
how fucking dare you
soft raptor
Nah
summer tree
Don't tell me Araki WOULDN'T do that
crystal patrol
But part 6 is bad
soft raptor
Hes dull af
spice crystal
nah dont get me wrong
minor ore
Jolyne> jojos before 7
summer tree
Jolyne is #2 Best
spice crystal
but i do not like her that much
she's below giorno, johnny and both josukes for me
soft raptor
Your boi is just a more femine Jotaro
kind owlBOT
@soft raptor, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !
spice crystal
he's just a better jotaro
its what araki tried to do with jotaro
but actually great
and amazing
and wonderful
soft raptor
Debatable
minor ore
jolyne got more characterization in the first chapter than jotaro in all of stardust crusaders lol
spice crystal
true
summer tree
GIORNO is more of a symbolic character I feel
soft raptor
I already pointed out his flaws on many occasions
white beacon
Can you guys move this to #jojo-overall-discussion
spice crystal
i am joseph joestar
minor ore
Lmao
minor ore
@minor ore not this part. Jesus part 9 being futuristic. And just because you haven't seen too much of something does not disprove my point. Futuristic setting is oversaturated in general not just manga.
That just means you're not seeing/reading enough entertainment media simply.
Araki said he wont do futurism
I hope so
I'd like to see how he would handle a futuristic setting tho, even if it isn't on Jojo
Araki's such a creative writer I could see him doing it fantastically
I wonder what Part 9 will even be about
crystal patrol
Jojo in a futuristic setting just doesn’t click
But same
I’m very curious
Araki already said he would probably do a ninth part
soft raptor
Baoh was some what futuristic
ruby kayak
neverendingpart
late beacon
minor ore
Araki never mentioned part 9
opaque path
Oh god. I'm only on volume 9. So it's dangerous being in this chat lol.
But when the heck did Yasuho's stand get named???
Sure. There were some chapters titled thst way. But up until tsurugi suddenly exclaimed its name, it was nameless.
She didn't even know she had a stand 🤔
minor ore
dont remember
fallow warren
a great start jojo
minor ore
tooru and his toes are all mine
minor ore
Rip plant dude
His death was fucking brutal
deserved
How did he deserve it?
AYYYEE
Nvm he alive
He spaghetti now
sike you thought
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !
minor ore
Can someone tell me why people call josuke gappy
Ive never seen someone call him that once in the manga
Because of the gap between his teeth
and also to make it easier to talk about both Josuke’s
So Josuke & Gappy
grizzled pilot
because he didn't have a name in the first few chapters
so gappy kinda caught on
you can't spell josuke and josuke differently in english, so we usually just stick with gappy
minor ore
I see
Thanks for the info
I hope Araki refs George Gershwin
at some point
That guy was awesome
minor ore
Im starting to think the final villain of jojolion is going to be this rock king or something like that
minor ore
yeah i doubt itll be the old man
also this should be the stand reference for the main villain https://youtu.be/BDhJU_cNCZE
grizzled pilot
Rock King could be a higashikata stand
minor ore
The only unnamed stand from the Higashikata's is Caato's
So "Walking on Sunshine" is still possible
spice crystal
i would be extremely surprised if the head doctor is not the main villain
mossy robin
What if the head doctor ripped off his head to reveal it was Josuke the whole time.
It was a mask.
hollow flint
inb4 holly is the main villain
long flax
Think I need to re read this lol
minor ore
“With this fruit... you’ve unleashed my stand, King Crimson.”
kind owlBOT
@crystal patrol, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
odd flume
Bois
What if soft and wet steals dicks
then they'ill get "dickless"
then josefumi and josuke will get their pants stuck
cause they got too many dicks
rich depot
"I have removed your ability to become erect"
Jokes on you, I haven‘t had a boner in years
odd flume
this has been edited: i havent had boner in years
odd flume
fakkyũ
steals your ability to pee with dicks with whitesnake
hahha
so your stand is your ick
odd flume
the ability of za dicko is to fuck your mom
odd flume
i wonder how stone humans can pee when they're at stone form
they pee stone water or wut
rich depot
Hmm
odd flume
infinity imagination
they pee 1000000 years old rock water and shit out rocks and ores
i was just wondering
if only kars or other ultimate lifeforms (if possible) can pee out lifefoms
soft raptor
The S&W turning into KC theory is so wild 💀
knotty mango
And stupidly unfounded
minor ore
To be fair, I expect King Crimson somewhere
If the “The Head Doctor is actually Tooru” theory that I believe in isn’t true, I’d rather the Head Doctor having King Crimson
It would explain his erratic movement
minor ore
Jan did you see the theory I’m mentioning by the way?
I saw it on reddit with 11 upvotes and honestly it’s badass
white beacon
I didn't because I'm not a fan of theorizing what is to happen. Well, theorizing to a detailed extent
minor ore
I’m only mentioning that because it didn’t gain much traction
But I completely believe it
knotty mango
I had a theory that joubin can accelerate things
minor ore
“Theory.
Tooru is the Head Doctor. His Stand lets him manipulate another person's memories, and he's been doing this to Yasuho ever since bumping into her during the Doctor Wu fight, making her believe that the two of them went out.
He's also been using his Stand on hospital staff such as the receptionist. The receptionist believes that the old man in the pimp coat is the Head Doctor because that's what Tooru wants him to believe. The old man in the pimp coat thinks he's the Head Doctor for the same reason, or is just some random old guy who's totally unaware of what's going on around him.
Pimp coat is a diversion and scapegoat.”
minor ore
The only reason I believe in that theory is because of what happened in the stairwell
The stand that appeared didn’t go toward Rai who was doing all the talking, not toward Yasuho who has a “relationship” with Tooru, but no, it went toward Josuke who was just kind of there minding his business
If it was the head doctor’s stand, it would have went after the one talking
and it makes sense that it didn’t try for Yasuho if it’s Tooru’s for obvious reasons
rich depot
Maybe Jobin can use his heat powers to make people more aggressive
I mean, Tsuguri was just a troubled kid and then BOOM! He‘s a psychotic murderer
pearl wave
I mean, it would make sense. The beetle would be foreshadowing in that case
Plus, it'd be similar to survivor from part 6
araki getting to show off how no stands are truly weak
opaque path
This is so fucking beautiful wtf I'm crying.
Their reunion was so sweet wtf they're so cute 😭 😭 😭
sacred totem
when was this?
their reunion after what
also someone said something about a huge twist that happened
what was the twist
stark fossil
I think this was from way back
summer tree
I think this was after Doobie Wah?
stark fossil
The Karera arc or something
kind owlBOT
@sacred totem, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
sacred totem
oh nice
opaque path
Yes, after doobie waah. When tsurugi and Yasuho are talking about going into the stadium !
Beginning of volume 11
kind owlBOT
@opaque path, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
minor ore
poop
prime hare
poop
long flax
poop
kind owlBOT
@long flax, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
summer tree
@minor ore (sorry for the ping)
hey do you actually have a link to that Reddit post for the Tooru theory?
summer tree
thank you
minor ore
What do you think about it?
summer tree
I think it has its own merits
and is certainly possible
but the Kars theory is also possible considering the stand has arm blades
@minor ore (sorry for the ping again, I was pulled away for a sec)
pale moon
what in the fuck is this whole picture lol
from the angles of the pillar to where josuke is walking to his pose to norisuke's whole bottom half
void viper
It’s beautiful that’s what it is
Seriously though I do need an explanation for why that was published
minor ore
@summer tree Don’t worry about pinging me, I don’t mind
summer tree
okay that's good
minor ore
But what Kars theory can hold any weight?
minor ore
Yeah, I know about the blades.
minor ore
But why does it have to be related to Kars
summer tree
honestly it's just a hunch
just based on small bits of information here or there
it may not be Kars in the end
but like
it's just a simple little theory
minor ore
I’m unsure of where JJL is going to go
summer tree
it's going somewhere and only Araki knows
summer tree
We'll see, we got a 50/50 shot right now
minor ore
I’m convinced solely because it “attacked” Josuke.
summer tree
unless Araki just fucking brings in a third person but I doubt that
yeah, that's a good reason
whatever the case, I'm not one to entirely dismiss the head doctor dude as not important
he might be a scapegoat or red herring for Tooru
but that doesn't mean he's not an actual character
minor ore
Just who the hell are you.
summer tree
he's somebody
I can't help but going back to the fact that they may be an alternate universe of somebody
I mean it's probably not Speedwagon
but are the chances that
Araki chose the number 89
to be the doctor
and have the characters keep REPEATING THAT FACT
when Speedwagon died of a heart attack at 89
like come on
that can't be a coincidence can it?
minor ore
Mountain Tim was this universes Speedwagon
@summer tree I just saw another theory on the sub and whew.
minor ore
A comment mentioned how it could be Araki messing up the numbers.
Something as easy as Koichi’s age is even wrong.
summer tree
do you remember which chapter she looks at that newspaper? I wanna compare the kid with Tooru
minor ore
I don’t
minor ore
I see it.
minor ore
Damn
strong resemblance imo
this may be a stretch, but jojolion got rid of the same face syndrome
and
DAMN
STRONG RESEMBLANCE MY HAM BRO
Tooru could be that kid, but he can't be a rock human, his appearance should have been maintained trough stand/rokakaka properties
Tooru being that kid + a rock human wouldn't make any sense, because then he would look older than Wu (70yo)
And also Yasuho would have noticed Tooru being missing for multiple months on many occasions if that were the case, since they both went to the same highschool
It could be explained through mind/memory control abilities tho, like the hair pin
wu looks young af
some people just naturally look older and younger
Wu's profile said he was 34yo, so it could be make an estimate of rock years to human years
If the head doctor is 89yo looking, he would be 160yo as a rock human
(which means older than the SBR race and the higashikata's curse)
damn
anyway we are two fridays away from next jojolion chapter 
grizzled pilot
dochead killed johnny
minor ore
was just wondering, but is Soft&Wet with "absorption" powers superior to the S&W with "plundering"?
minus the kira powers jo2ke inherited
We didn't really get to see the full extent of the plundering one so we could only speculate
I think the plundering power is very superior to the absorption, just because of how powerful it seemed stealing things like the ability to see, friction and... water(?)
vernal perch
warm gulch
Gureto
cold sphinx
cute
coral hatch
can someone explain to me how Soft & Wet is a direct counter to NOTORIOUS BIG? All I know about Soft and Wet is that his physical attacjs is strong but cannot break a rock, takes things from anything and trap anything to a bubble(is dat perhaps the counter?)
grizzled pilot
k
soft raptor
I doubt S&W can even deal with biggie
grizzled pilot
i'm sure josuke could figure out a way
soft raptor
Counters to it would be Cream or something that can annihilate it in one go
long flax
Notorious chase*
grizzled pilot
the hand requires movement
it wouldn't be able to
BIG would attack him before he can complete the swiping motion
rich depot
I guess that‘s a good point
grizzled pilot
oh i suppose it's possible if BIG is after another faster target but then it's a matter of swiping BIG while it's in motion
soft raptor
Blue Hawaii >> Highway go go
novel igloo
yes
void viper
go go
void viper
Highway star > blue hawaii though
we got the baby scene, "I refuse", "Ok masta lets kill da hoe, beetttcchh", and "fresh pair of underwear on new years day"
and the part where josuke runs out of fuel
brittle blade
the name of Jesus in Hebrew is Joshua
pearl wave
I still think blue hawaii is a cooler stand though tbh
void viper
Stand wide blue Hawaii is a bit cooler
Just based on the fights though highway star wins
summer tree
Blue Hawaii sucks as a fight
- Something gorey happens
- Gappy runs
- Something gorey happens
- Gappy runs
put on repeat for several chapters
that's it
that's the fight
crystal patrol
Yeah
And I can imagine how Jojolion readers felt at there time
Thankfully I started after that arc
But damn
minor ore
Fun Fun Fun is worse.
minor ore
California King Bed is also garbage
Why does every Jojo part start with terrible fights.
crystal patrol
I didn’t think they were boring
summer tree
California King Bed is also fun tbh
crystal patrol
I liked them both. Fun Fun Fun was definitely absurd, but I liked it
summer tree
Why does every Jojo part start with terrible fights
Avdol Vs. Jotaro aka the first ever stand fight ever is bad?
🤔
and for that matter
Aqua Necklace?
minor ore
California King Bed is everything I hate in a show / movie / whatever.
Norisuke of course pops up at the worst moment cause of course. Daiya tries to manipulate Josuke to basically rape him, not something I think was done well. It’s just garbage.
Of course his bubble popped at the last possible second blah blah blah
It’s such a cliche filled fight
summer tree
okay but how come Daiya got injured and she was suddenly healed what the actual fuck was that
rich hearth
araki forgot
summer tree
okay but literally it was in the span of a single chapter how do you forget that fast
rich hearth
part 3 healing magic returns
summer tree
man I'm reading Jorge Joestar right now and I am actually suffering
coral hatch
@summer tree F MEGA, reading that cursed thing is the thing I regret the most
Should I wait for the colored Jojolion chapter or just continue reading to the latest chapter that is not colored
Even tho the manga I read mostly have no color(duh), it feels off to read Jojo without color
Maybe it's because I read all jojo in color
It's been a month since I read the latest chapter of Colored jojolion
B u t t h is c r a v i n g f o r j o j o i s n o t e n o u g h
pearl wave
Whoever was shit talking fun fun fun earlier, I thought that fight was super cool
kind owlBOT
@pearl wave, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
pearl wave
one of my favorite opening fights of jojo
The suspense of not knowing who the guy is or his motives, why the girls there, Not knowing the limit to jousuke's stand
etc
I still think it was one of the more exciting fights so far in part 8
California king bed wasn't great though
rich hearth
Fun Fun Fun is essentially Justices ability but not as cool
Still a decent fight though I will admit
rich hearth
That’s why I said decent
pearl wave
Justice didn't have the mind game factor though, you already knew what it's ability was going into the fight
minor ore
At least we got titties.
summer tree
you know Fun Fun Fun could be OP if you just find like
the perfection situation
like a dungeon
put the characters in a dungeon or some shit
minor ore
what do you guys think this part's final OP song will sound like?
pearl wave
part 5 or 8?
for part 5, I would've guessed something like fighting gold, but obviously fighting gold already happened
hushed rover
Hold up. Let me answer that after I’ve prepped up my time machine