so they just spectate?
#📚lore-discussion
frosty belfry
ember storm
Well they’re “working” on a way to get themselves bodies
frosty belfry
so xur isn’t apart of the nine?
ember storm
He’s their unpaid intern
And he also got kidnapped by Starhorse to help host Dares
Working double shifts for no benefits
tough kettle
also why does he have tentacles
he's a jovian, he is descended from humans but mutated
ember storm
and why is he sick
He’s not sick
He just got his spine broken by a guardian once
That same guardian later became the emissary by the way
So not only is working for the Nine an HR nightmare, but there are no healthcare benefits
light stratus
https://tenor.com/view/my-back-spiderman-spider-man-tobey-maguire-bully-maguire-...
🤣
Also canna a stupid question but if the guardian was in the chu chu Charles world would they win
empty fern
Also canna a stupid question but if the guardian was in the chu chu Charles worl...
Did the mc in the game win?
light stratus
Did the mc in the game win?
Yeah
bright stream
just finished act 2 and im so confused. Who is maya sunderesh? and how did she get lakshmis body? did i miss something?
i should have finished byfs 10 hour vid
light stratus
just finished act 2 and im so confused. Who is maya sunderesh? and how did she g...
Yeah
Play the Lightfall campaign postgame quest
bright stream
which one is that
light stratus
Same area you fight calus
bright stream
i cant find it
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just finished act 2 and im so confused. Who is maya sunderesh? and how did she g...
bright stream
as soon as i start to think i understand whats going on in destiny this shi happens
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I'm not familiar with Maya lore but here's what I know
She was a Golden Age researcher that was involved with Braytech and the Ishtar Collective. When studying the Vex, she found 227 copies of herself and the other Ishtar researchers, and those copies were sent back into the Vex network to explore. During/after(?) the Collapse, she went to Neptune and helped found Neomuna. Also at some point she did experiments with Exos and one of these experiments involved putting her consiousness in an Exo named Lakshmi or some shit
bright stream
lmao i wish that they kept all the seasonal content so i could catch up on it
bright stream
I'm not familiar with Maya lore but here's what I know
She was a Golden Age res...
lakshimi was the FWC leader in d1 i think
thats why im confused as to when she got ahold of the bodyu
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lakshimi was the FWC leader in d1 i think
Yuh
She was also there when Eliksni destroyed London after the Collapse
Part of why she's so racist 
No idea why Sundaresh is wearing Lakshmi's face as the Conductor instead of her original form though
bright stream
boutta watch some more byf vids
covert stone
She'll reveal in Act 3 that it was cheaper to reuse a model and rehire a voice actor more convenient to use a body that had Radiolaria in it already
bright stream
She'll reveal in Act 3 that it was ~~cheaper to reuse a model and rehire a voice...
looooolll
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boutta watch some more byf vids
Noooooo please read the lore 
The lore is straight fire
I just linked you a hub to every piece of Sundaresh lore ever
Read that instead 🙏
bright stream
where
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bright stream
i read it
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1sec I'll get it in chronological order
bright stream
i have mad respect for the lore community
idk how they can look through every item and piece together stories
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i read it
Nah that's just the summary
The real lore is in the linked articles
Ctrl+F for "sundaresh" for the articles in rough chronological order
bright stream
alr bet
naw bruh
221 pages for part 1 is crazy
i really like the time frames and the years they give
destiny makes it seem like everything happened within 100 years or some
covert stone
The story that follows our Guardian happens in real time
analog torrent
wheres part 2 btw
It's not that bad
Sundaresh pre-227: Tractor Cannon, the Ghost Fragment: Vex tabs
Sundaresh as one of the 227: Aspect: Volitive, Clovis Bray's Logbook — Missing Pages
Collapse: read Lakshmi lore
Neomuna: read Neomuna lore
part 2
bright stream
thanks
analog torrent
Don't treat the timelines as gospel 🙏 they exist to guide you to primary sources
Reddit post for both parts of the timeline https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/1cef12t/complete_destiny_lore_timeline/
analog torrent
idk how they can look through every item and piece together stories
With great pain and suffering 
this is the personal spreadsheet I use for keeping track of lore
bright stream
holy shit
bright stream
tryna link?
analog torrent
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YMVBaQS1BvlSl_A5EF83OufEIBjl70TuHoLGtioXpl0/edit?usp=sharing
bright stream
thanks
low vector
Do the krill still exist or did they all become hive
ember storm
Only one was exempt from that and she’s almost certainly dead now
Savathun is still a hive even though she lost her worm, it’s not like there was a transformation for losing it
low vector
Only one was exempt from that and she’s almost certainly dead now
Is there somewhere I can read about her
ember storm
Just plug in “Taox” to the Ishtar collective search
low vector
Thx
fresh zephyr
What's going to happen to the pyramids after the Witnesses death?
covert stone
Like the old planes in the Mothyards, abandoned
fresh zephyr
They can't be used or scavenged?
blazing wasp
They can't be used or scavenged?
we've rarely been able to do as little as scratch a single pyramid ship
broken relic
Pyramids? What Pyramids? There's never been any Pyramids in Destiny, you're crazy
stark fjord
is it safe to presume all echoes have the same power?
dim minnow
is it safe to presume all echoes have the same power?
No, the Echo the Conductor has is specifically called "Echo OF Command"
So that means there are Echoes of other things
stark fjord
if fikrul has become a monster in contact of the diamond
then
probs echo of power or something
dim minnow
I feel the Echo Fikrul has will tie into his beliefs
That anything can be made into a tool to be wielded
It sounds like Revenant will conclude Fikrul's story, so I really hope that the idea of him being our antithesis is used
small quartz
so how did Calus force the Traveler to give him light
small quartz
Riht sorry
jagged badge
He siphoned the Light forcefully with the cage
small quartz
Okay what happened after we beat him
empty fern
He burst
fast tapir
he turned into a milk giant and the traveler destroyed him
"Traveler! Do you see me now?" indeed it did
ah man i miss red war 
empty fern
When the small things mattered 
fast tapir
im not really sure but im gonna guess cassoid or omolon
small quartz
im not really sure but im gonna guess cassoid or omolon
I think its Tex Machina
Omolon has 3
empty fern
Give list
fast tapir
empty fern
Name them
small quartz
Telesto
Erinas Vow
Dead Messanger
Incentive
Im not countng ships so
I think thats five
No just 4 ig
fast tapir
manticore its self counts as 20 so veist wins 
fast tapir
Oh invective
the ice breaker shotgun people forget about
empty fern
the ice breaker shotgun people forget about
fast tapir
throw it off the tower
empty fern
No
dim minnow
first 3 exotic swords from D1 were made with Cassoid materials
empty fern
They were? Thought it was helium fragments, motes of light, and oryx sword
dim minnow
They were? Thought it was helium fragments, motes of light, and oryx sword
Helium Filaments I think were for Raze-Lighter specifically
empty fern
Nuh uh
dim minnow
the other swords needed other materials
and you did need that stuff, but you also needed to wait for a Cassoid shipment to progress
small quartz
How Many Exotic Weapons Every Weapon Foundry Has
The Black Armory - 3
Brave Arsenal - 0
Cassoid - 4
Crux - 3
Daito - 2
Field Forged - 0
Häkke - 1
MIDA - 1
Nadir - 1
Omolon - 3
Suros - 1
Tex Machina - 5
Veist - 2
The Infinite Forge - 0
dim minnow
How Many Exotic Weapons Every Weapon Foundry Has
The Black Armory - 3
Brave Arse...
you got Fabian Strategy and Tlaloc from D1 right?
Fabian - Hakke
Tlaloc - Omolon
small quartz
you got Fabian Strategy and Tlaloc from D1 right?
Im going off the lists
so if theyre not included sorry
eager trout
Can a single Vex travel back in time?
dim minnow
Can a single Vex travel back in time?
Vex don't exactly time travel
funny thing about the Vex
they are time traveling robots, but they don't time travel nor are they robots
basically they give off the illusion of time travel using their very powerful simulation capbilities
fast tapir
fake ass mfs
dim minnow
there was a lore entry that described a Vex teleporting as "rewriting history"
small quartz
they are time traveling robots, but they don't time travel nor are they robots
... theyre not robots???
dim minnow
... theyre not robots???
the "robots" you see walking around shooting you are merely constructs piloted by the Vex
what the Vex really are is what is contained within the Radiolaria
dim minnow
the Vex Milk
small quartz
can I drink Radiolaria
dim minnow
can I drink Radiolaria
yes, but not a good idea
dim minnow
Vex can convert people into Vex
small quartz
Fully Aware
dim minnow
drinking the Milk is a sure-fire way to make that happen
small quartz
Fully Aware
dim minnow
it taste like seawater
small quartz
Just wondering if you actually COULD drink it
small quartz
it taste like seawater
Oh sick
empty fern
Conductor, put the mask back on
empty fern
Again
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again??
The Maya that mind melded (???) with Lakshmi turned out to be racist
One of the 227 Mayas, I assume, is the Conductor
Another one of the 227 Mayas tortured Clovis Bray for info on Clarity Control
small quartz
The Maya that mind melded (???) with Lakshmi turned out to be racist
One of the ...
227???
RACIST???
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During the Golden Age, Maya was part of the Ishtar Collective research team, and she discovered 227 simulated copies of herself and her team in the Vex network
Those 227 copies went on to do some crazy shit
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They went back into the network to do research
A lot of them died
One of them tortured Clovis Bray
A lot of them met Praedyth, one of the members of the VoG fireteam that got lost
This loretab covers some of what they did, same with the rest of the lorebook Aspect
https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/volitive#book-aspect
As for racism
During Splicer, the Eliksni came to the City for shelter and Lakshmi wasn't happy about it, to say the least
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Think about it from her perspective though
You watch humanity fall. Some bug fuckers arrive from outer space and start killing humans. You take shelter in one of the last cities still standing. The bug fuckers burn your city to the ground for shits and giggles. They continue to terrorize humanity for hundreds (thousands?) of years. Now they want to come to the heart of the actual last city when they're in trouble?
Ikora had a really insightful take on it
The lingering trauma of centuries. Ransom cannot get out of its shadow. Part of me cannot either.
...In this gap lives the idea of "qualia," the first-person experiences of the mind. You cannot describe or communicate qualia; you can only have them.
Is there an explanatory gap between knowing the history of Eliksni violence against humanity and living through it? Is there a gap between experiencing full-sensorium captures of that night and actually being there, in London, when the Devils finally broke the wall?
There must be. Qualia of pain and hate.
...I wonder if Ransom would still push for the "complete extirpation of invasive Fallen from the system" if he lost his memory of all those centuries, if he had to relearn it all from books. What if he were like a newborn Guardian again? Richly educated on our bleak history with the Eliksni, but not scarred by the experience of it?
Would he still arrive at the same unshakeable conviction that they all have to go?
Or would he be missing some irreducible qualia, some pearl grown around the grit of first-person suffering?
small quartz
Think about it from her perspective though
You watch humanity fall. Some bug fuc...
Man Defends Bug Racism
Asked never to cook again ❤️
eager trout
basically they give off the illusion of time travel using their very powerful si...
How does that even work???
dim minnow
How does that even work???
like their simulations are so accurate that it's as if they time travel
eager trout
How does that affect the real timeline?
dim minnow
the Vex desire to bring their simulations into reality
they use the simulations as a baseline I think
keep in mind I don't really recall the full explanation
cloud gust
like their simulations are so accurate that it's as if they time travel
So do they have the power to create alternate Timelines?
Or is Saint a Vex Simulation?
dim minnow
So do they have the power to create alternate Timelines?
Or is Saint a Vex Simul...
Vex lore is just weird ok
cloud gust
I agree
small quartz
like their simulations are so accurate that it's as if they time travel
how does a vex simulation work
warped karma
drinking the Milk is a sure-fire way to make that happen
so drinking milk i turn into a vex which will then allow me to Time travel
trim grotto
there is a slight side effect of death though
heady monolith
there is a slight side effect of death though
i would like to see this proof of 'side effect of death' from consuming vex milk 
small quartz
there is a slight side effect of death though
Yeah cuz death is something guardians fear
trim grotto
Yeah cuz death is something guardians fear
well, in this case, it is
ever heard of Asher Mir or Kabr the Legionless
small quartz
No
trim grotto
Kabr the Legionless consumed the radiolarian fluid of the Oracles within the Vault of Glass, and was forcibly turned into a Vex.
Asher Mir was injected with Radiolaria, and was slowly turning into a Vex himself, as was his Ghost.
small quartz
Kabr the Legionless consumed the radiolarian fluid of the Oracles within the Vau...
So the fluid of the oracles overrides the ghost
sick yew
There were also Radiolaria related experiments back in the golden age
Two of the Braytech Confidential entries related to it
civic quarry
Destiny is a grimdark cosmic horror and the only thing that prevents you from realizing it is that you're something like chosen chaos space marine in warhammer
change my mind
civic quarry
the Vex desire to bring their simulations into reality
For instance: Vault of Glass
dim minnow
change my mind
we destroyed the Witness who was the embodiment of shitty nihlism
civic quarry
we destroyed the Witness who was the embodiment of shitty nihlism
And turned an entity made out of concept into a tea
dim minnow
And turned an entity made out of concept into a tea
Nezarec wasn't really a concept
Mithrax took the Primordial Darkness from his corpse parts and distilled it into the tea
civic quarry
Think about it from her perspective though
You watch humanity fall. Some bug fuc...
One of the saddest part in there is "The bug fuckers burn your city to the ground for shits and giggles. They continue to terrorize humanity for hundreds (thousands?) of years." part is partially influenced by the entity that orchestrated humanity's fall
civic quarry
Mithrax took the Primordial Darkness from his corpse parts and distilled it into...
still cosmic entity got turned into something like teabag
dim minnow
not exactly
and Destiny can be dark, but I don't think it qualifies as Grimdark
it ain't edgy
civic quarry
it ain't edgy
fair.
little gorge
not consistently but there is some edgy lore
dim minnow
yeah, but not overly edgy
civic quarry
not consistently but there is some edgy lore
for instance: ramen, root of nightmares lore
little gorge
yeah, but not overly edgy
true
dim minnow
at least not for the sake of being edgy either
dim minnow
then again, Warhammer has kids books
civic quarry
ghost community theatre
also: community of intelligent armaments
small quartz
Mithrax took the Primordial Darkness from his corpse parts and distilled it into...
Wait Mithrax did fucking what
dim minnow
Wait Mithrax did fucking what
Season of Plunder was about us retrieving relics that were pretty much containers holding parts of Nezarec's corpse
small quartz
freaky
dim minnow
we end up getting all of them and at that point, Mithrax started being guided by the whispers from them
he used his knowledge of the relics and as a Splicer to distill the potent Primordial Darkness that emanated from the relics
small quartz
so he made darkness tea
dim minnow
the result was a tea that was given to Osiris to wake him up from the coma Savathun put him under
it also seems like this procedure had a negative effect on Mithrax
small quartz
oh?
dim minnow
he's basically dying
small quartz
NOOOO
dim minnow
like has been and it's becoming more apparent
dim minnow
HOW CAN WE CURE HIM
warped karma
speakers sight 
small quartz
Also
How EXACTLY
does the Pyramid shard give stasis
like is it because its the darkness?
because I kinda thought the darkness subclasses was Darkness kinda filtered through light
dim minnow
the splinter seems to be the Witness' way of directly giving someone the ability to harness Stasis
but pretty much anyone can learn to use it even without it
small quartz
but pretty much anyone can learn to use it even without it
did uh
Evil Bug Lady learn
whats her name
dim minnow
Eramis?
dim minnow
I think after her defeat in Beyond Light and her release a year later she might have actually properly learned to harness Stasis
small quartz
I think after her defeat in Beyond Light and her release a year later she might ...
do the relics increase your stasis power
dim minnow
do the relics increase your stasis power
no, the Witness just needed Nezarec's body parts for an undisclosed reason
small quartz
?
dim minnow
maybe so it can try and learn where the Veil went from him
dim minnow
oh the Splinters
small quartz
which grant it
dim minnow
I think the Splinters may be a sort of shortcut
like it allows you to harness Stasis without needing to actually learn how to wield it
which is why Stasis turned on Eramis when she was defeated
at least that's my thoughts on it
like Eramis was not in a very good spot mentally when she was beaten (she wasn't really doing to well thoughout the entire BL campaign really)
the Splinter seemed to be the only thing allowing her to keep control
so when it failed she had nothing else to fall back on since her mental state was at a breaking point
slim girder
the splinter seems to be the Witness' way of directly giving someone the ability...
I always thought the splinters were a similar connection to our ghosts with the light.
But through true mastery you could learn to wield darkness without the need for a splinter.
Another theory would be the splinters are the original mechanism for acquiring stasis. To "activate" it within a being. Like how with strand, we first found it when in proximity to the veil.
All light comes from the traveler but darkness seems to come from multiple different sources.
sick yew
the splinter seems to be the Witness' way of directly giving someone the ability...
Now that the Witness is dead shouldnt Stasis be much safer to use?
Or rather learn
slim girder
Now that the Witness is dead shouldnt Stasis be much safer to use?
It is still a neutral force and just like with strand I'd imagine it's got a danger to it if you can't control it.
Like ikora was teaching Zavala how to use stasis and ikora has also mentioned that there have been "bad reactions" to it.
sick yew
It is still a neutral force and just like with strand I'd imagine it's got a dan...
Our original concern was that it leads to corruption as we have seen in dark future and well also Eramis
slim girder
Corrupted how though? I'm sure the witness could corrupt through darkness but to my knowledge we never saw what the dark future lore actually meant by that.
worldly river
Stasis is all about control anyway, that entire mindset can potentially be inherently somewhat corruptive even without an influence behind it
slim girder
In my mind it'd be similar to what the weavers and attendants are like. All covered in darkness and completely taken over by those energies and then manipulated by the witness.
sick yew
Also darkness
small quartz
but whys it just
Floating around Neomuna
I understand the Splinters awakening something
but Strand?
sick yew
Its possibly because of the Veil
warped karma
what even is the veil?
sick yew
Darkness thingy
sick yew
Regardless if thats real or fake its a potential leak
small quartz
Sorry sorry
small quartz
And we dont allow leak/datamine related discussion
Oh also what IS the Final Shape
is it just Eternal Stasis?
for everything
sick yew
Stasis in the literal sense not in the destiny subclass sense
But yes
Basically everything gets "frozen" (not literally ice) in place for eternity
No new life
No death of existing life
Basically a gigantic pause button
You saw a glimpse of it in the Final Shape opening cutscene
slim girder
You are also "reshaped" into a form that witness deems suitable.
If you want a really dumbed down version the witness is basically lord business from the Lego movie with the glue.
small quartz
If you want a really dumbed down version the witness is basically lord business ...
my mind rn
That actually makes so much sense
sick yew
Thats kinda what it offered us at the end of the campaign
We get to choose how exactly we end up being frozen in time
In the Witnesses mind thats somehow a disirable thing
small quartz
I love being frozen™️
slim girder
In the Witnesses mind thats somehow a disirable thing
Because it's a life without pain or suffering. It did say when the witness was formed that it culled its doubts and fears into one being with an indomitable will. So it probably didn't understand that death and suffering is what gives life purpose to an extent and is part of the universe.
sick yew
I know the Witnesses weird ideas yes
They are obviously wrong
After the Final Shape there would not be a point in "living"
Being forever stuck in place unable to do anything
It goes beyond boring existence id be torture
Purgatory would probably be a better word for it
jovial nimbus
whats the lore behind king's fall raid
yes i just started playing 1 month ago so i dont know much
jagged badge
whats the lore behind king's fall raid
After the events of the Taken King campaign, we go to kill Oryx for good
static bluff
it chronologically happened before any destiny 2 events, it's from destiny 1.
oryx, the final boss of the raid, was the father of crota, another hive god. crota was overall causing trouble on the moon so we killed him (crota's end raid). something something oryx sought revenge and came to our system, we weaken him during the campaign and finish him in the raid
jagged badge
So we make our way through his Dreadnaught, dismantling more of his tribute system as we kill the Warpriest, Golgoroth and his daughters
ember storm
It’s just a thing you can do for the loot and experience of it
jovial nimbus
epic
jagged badge
And then we kill him
jovial nimbus
so we kill a big part of the hive family? epic
ember storm
so we kill a big part of the hive family? epic
Everyone except Xivu and Savathun and one of Savathun’s kids are all dead
ember storm
He came for revenge after we killed his son so we kill his daughters and him <:t...
And his foster son and his dog
jovial nimbus
He came for revenge after we killed his son so we kill his daughters and him <:t...
absolutely fw that 
white girder
Regardless if thats real or fake its a potential leak
some ytber said it is because there were armour ornaments representing each subclass and one of them is called finality, so just a brainstorm lol
jagged badge
who is the ultimate hive/krill that we havent killed yet 🤔
Xivu Arath I suppose
The Hive God of War
white girder
The Hive God of War
so there are other "gods" of hive?
jagged badge
Oryx, Savathûn and Xivu Arath
They were siblings and the first of the Hive
So they are considered the Hive’s gods
white girder
Oryx, Savathûn and Xivu Arath
i mean we're gonna kill xivu in heresy
jagged badge
Maybe
white girder
or legends never die who knows lol
jagged badge
So they are considered the Hive’s gods
(Excepting the Worm Gods who are gods to the Hive but not literally Hive themselves ofc)
white girder
(Excepting the Worm Gods who are gods to the Hive but not literally Hive themsel...
I mean they are worms so yeah ofc they are different
anyways the next saga will either be finishing up the rest of the darkness/second golden age/expansion of the city/vex/bray family/entire franchise is done
desert iris
empty fern
Unless
small quartz
can you "Create" a new super?
empty fern
He used golden gun like it was a well, like a support
trim grotto
Marksman?
More similar to Acrobat's Dodge, but this was before that dodge existed. Also, it was with his Golden Gun, it wasn't a dodge.
small quartz
uhh
trim grotto
He pressed the barrel to the ground, fired, and it empowered the rifles of the Frames fighting alongside him.
small quartz
frames?
small quartz
ohhhh
tough kettle
shaw han is a loser i wish he didnt exist. horrible boring character shitty design
trim grotto
Yes yes, tutorial character boring. We've heard it before.
Shaw Han has had some interesting moments in the lore before, however. He's an interesting example of a fairly standard Guardian of moderate feat.
tough kettle
i just think it would be better if new light in d2 was like the beginning of the first destiny game where you just have to find a ship and go to the tower
ember storm
Yes yes, tutorial character boring. We've heard it before.
I call him a fraud because he’s wearing great hunt armor and bones which would indicate he actually participated, but they were just bought from a street vendor
small quartz
Yes yes, tutorial character boring. We've heard it before.
he looks like
Riley Robinson
from Subnautica
Kinda
uneven canyon
If a guardian got a tattoo or something, would they be revived with it?
ember storm
Zavala has those marks on his neck
uneven canyon
That was before, though, right?
idle tendon
i believe if you make any changes to your body (tattoos, haircuts, etc) you’ll have them if you get revived
trim grotto
If a guardian got a tattoo or something, would they be revived with it?
The long and short of it is that we don't actually know. There are tattoos, but they're pre rez tattoos. We've seen Lightbearers with a beard or new hairstyle, so presumably that stays. But tattoos? No clue.
uneven canyon
So changes to guardians stay after revival? I don’t see why that wouldn't be the case, but I just wanted to check
ember storm
I mean yeah
The “perfect template” thing is just a random theory
Ghosts don’t even need to know how the guardian’s body is built or functions for a rez
They just come back
There was actually one time that Shaxx hit a guardian so hard they sustained damage even after a rez
trim grotto
So changes to guardians stay after revival? I don’t see why that wouldn't be the...
What I mean is, we've only got haircuts to use as an example.
We haven't seen any tattoos or similar examples to refer to.
small quartz
the ghost revives remind me of the Ultimatrix
and how it'd always revert ben into his green jacket and black shirt
even if he transformed while wearing something else
gaunt carbon
if a guardian starved to death would they still be hungry after being revived
small quartz
probably not
dim minnow
if a guardian starved to death would they still be hungry after being revived
yes
though Ghosts can negate the effects of Hunger
trim grotto
if a guardian starved to death would they still be hungry after being revived
That is exactly why Drifter acts like he has pika.
He starved to death a lot in the Dark Ages, and woke up still hungry each time.
tough kettle
That is exactly why Drifter acts like he has pika.
im curious what are some examples of him acting like he has pika
shadow crypt
I’m not up to speed on the story rn for echoes
But how is Maya evil
Wasn’t she a golden age researcher
Or whatever
Friends with the chioma esi person
dim minnow
when she first discovered the Veil on Neomuna, she grew obsessed with it
pretty much turning into the bad person Clovis Bray was
having a total disregard for the lives of others
dim minnow
Friends with the chioma esi person
they're married
dim minnow
it seemed like Chioma was there before Maya
but they were recognized as Neomuna's founders
shadow crypt
Is chioma dead?
trim grotto
Presumably. They were Golden Age scientists. Even the original Maya would be.
trim grotto
im curious what are some examples of him acting like he has pika
It is basically his most famous trait. Play Gambit, you'll see what I mean in his intro lines.
tough kettle
It is basically his most famous trait. Play Gambit, you'll see what I mean in hi...
oh, like him talking about eating aliens?
dim minnow
Oh so this Maya is one of the copies
it seems like the Conductor is the real one
trim grotto
oh, like him talking about eating aliens?
Among other things
ember storm
it seems like the Conductor is the real one
From what I’ve heard it seems like some kind of mix?
dim minnow
Is chioma dead?
Maya messed with the Veil and was presumed dead so Chioma hid all the Veil research away and then thre herself into the Vex network where it seemed like the two reunited
small quartz
are there any 👽 aliens in Destiny?
ember storm
Like the echo just fell into a radiolaria reservoir and everyone that could tried to reach out to it
small quartz
aside from the witness
ember storm
are there any 👽 aliens in Destiny?
You’re never going to believe this
tough kettle
are there any 👽 aliens in Destiny?
aliens that look like grey aliens?
ember storm
But the giant bug people are in fact aliens
dim minnow
are there any 👽 aliens in Destiny?
elaborate
small quartz
But the giant bug people are in fact aliens
Grey Aliens 😭
like the one in the emote
tough kettle
the witness' species is the only one that kinda looks like a grey alien
ember storm
Grey Aliens 😭
small quartz
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN GRAHHHH
ember storm
It’s grey
ember storm
Guess
small quartz
I alr said besides the witness
tough kettle
"grey aliens" are an entirely different kind, they are a kind of "stereotypical" alien found in many mainstream sci-fi things
small quartz
thank you John Halo
ember storm
I know what a stereotypical Martian is
tough kettle
that would be the "little green men" type :-]
trim grotto
are there any 👽 aliens in Destiny?
No.
small quartz
dang
trim grotto
dang
If I'm not mistaken, humanity's first experience with an alien force would be the Traveler, followed by the Vex, and then the K1 Anomaly and Clarity Control.
small quartz
... Alien Force?
trim grotto
Yes?
small quartz
If I'm not mistaken, humanity's first experience with an alien force would be th...
whats the K1 Anomaly
ember storm
Some black fleet object I think
small quartz
oh?
ember storm
Of course golden age humanity didn’t have any clue what they were looking at
But it whispered to Clovis and told him to go to Europa
trim grotto
An amorphous Darkness artifact. Not that we knew what Darkness was at the time.
ember storm
And low and behold he found the veiled statue which he dubbed Clarity
small quartz
Clarity is
trim grotto
Clarity Control, specifically. The force it emanated was dubbed Clarity.
ember storm
literally just what he called the statue
ember storm
He also didn’t have any clue what it was
ember storm
the blind statues?
They’re from everywhere pyramids are
First appeared in Shadowkeep
small quartz
i forgot that dlc exsisted
ember storm
They didn’t represent Dissenters until FS where they were actually able to speak
trim grotto
the blind statues?
Yes. One arrived on Europa 20 years prior to Clovis, in the Golden Age.
ember storm
They didn’t represent Dissenters until FS where they were actually able to speak
Every other time they were just statues the witness used as sort of transmitters for itself
small quartz
Whats the Aeon Cult
sick yew
Whats the Aeon Cult
Some guys obsessed with generating heavy ammo
nah jk idfk if theres even lore on them
small quartz
Some guys obsessed with generating heavy ammo
My people
little gorge
Some guys obsessed with generating heavy ammo
ad clear rocket users
sick yew
Based
sick yew
Based on my enjoyment
small quartz
https://tenor.com/view/based-based-on-what-based-morpheus-gif-21855859
Based on how fucking sick they are?
sick yew
So Ahamkaras can theoretically grant their own wishes right?
trim grotto
Sure, in theory.
sick yew
Any clue why they dont?
trim grotto
Yes. They die.
trim grotto
That's what happened to Taranis.
sick yew
But couldnt they just wish for immortality
iirc wish magic is basically limitless in its capabilities
trim grotto
It's absolutely limited. It took the combined Wish of 6 Guardians to Wish the Dreaming City Curse into place.
trim grotto
It took Variks to turn that into something greater than it was
man accidentally made zombies
sick yew
It's absolutely limited. It took the combined Wish of 6 Guardians to Wish the Dr...
But I didnt know that actually
trim grotto
"let me fuck around with this evil lich guy and some corpses this'll go well"
sick yew
On the topic of wishes actually
Did we ever figure out how the wish wall functions?
Like how did they pull that off
dim minnow
Like how did they pull that off
we just know shit
sick yew
nono
I mean how does the machine work
Throw some funny symbols in the air and boom wish
dim minnow
I mean how does the machine work
not exactly a device that grants wishes
trim grotto
Did we ever figure out how the wish wall functions?
Basically Mara made the symbols to create a very tightly sealed phrase to be used as a Wish
Like writing a detailed contract for a genie wish
It sends that to Riven
sick yew
So its just perfectly said so the usual side effects of wishes dont apply
dim minnow
you take your wish, and you convert it to the symbols which you input into the wall
what it does is it limits Riven's ability to mess with the wish
trim grotto
So its just perfectly said so the usual side effects of wishes dont apply
That's the idea yeah
sick yew
Wish dragons really are a funky side of destiny lore
Quick recap of season of the wish
Did Riven die?
I didnt play at all during that seasons
dim minnow
her spirit is pretty much gone now
even with the Techeun summoning ritual, she only had enough strength for the Last Wish (and I guess Crow's wish to meet Cayde)
sick yew
even with the Techeun summoning ritual, she only had enough strength for the Las...
How come
She just got old over the years or what
trim grotto
Quick recap of season of the wish
Did Riven die?
Well she was already dead
She wasn't brought back to life, it was her spirit that was summoned
dim minnow
Ahamkara transcend death
sick yew
mhm
dim minnow
their remains can hold wish-granting power, but it is very diminished at that point
bringing Riven's spirit back ensures she can grant the Last Wish
sick yew
That I know from the "few" Ahamkara related exotics
dim minnow
and Ahamkara do need to use energy to grant the wish
sick yew
And what was all that stuff about her offspring/ the egg
dim minnow
which is why Riven's spirit faded away after granting the Last Wish
dim minnow
And what was all that stuff about her offspring/ the egg
she had a clutch of eggs in secret with Taranis
and she wanted them safe
sick yew
she had a clutch of eggs in secret with Taranis
Thats the bro in the garden ye?
dim minnow
she basically forced us to find them all or else she wouldn't grant the Wish
dim minnow
Mara is keeping an eye on them
sick yew
Do I have to break out the good old wish ender again
dim minnow
she intends on fulfilling Riven's wishes and allowing the eggs to hatch when the time comes
dim minnow
Do I have to break out the good old wish ender again
hopefully, Taranis' will lives on through them
in that they will be good like him
sick yew
I was about to say that doesnt sound like that solid of a plan ngl
dim minnow
eh, I guess we'll give it a shot
dim minnow
hmmm
you know, I just remembered that the Nine took to getting rid of any other Ahamkara after Riven got Taken
since they didn't want the same happening to them
I wonder if this was related to Taranis scattering the eggs
I know the Great Hunt and Riven being Taken were both the leading factors in Taranis choosing to grant his own wish
but I also wonder if Taranis (likely unknowingly) saved his clutch from the Nine in doing so
sick yew
I know the Great Hunt and Riven being Taken were both the leading factors in Tar...
What did he wish for
dim minnow
What did he wish for
well you see, when Wish began, we went into Riven;s Lair to retrive the clutch only to find that they are missing
it turned out they were scattered all throughout the Ley Lines
as it turns out, Taranis is the reason for this
sick yew
Real quick these are not the same eggs we blew up during Forsaken yes?
dim minnow
Real quick these are not the same eggs we blew up during Forsaken yes?
correct, those ones were corrupted
dim minnow
so the eggs were scattered because Taranis made a wish to keep them safe
it just so happens that was the form the wish took
and since Taranis granted his own wish, he ceased to be
sick yew
Could another Ahamkara theoretically have granted his wish without dying?
dim minnow
Could another Ahamkara theoretically have granted his wish without dying?
a few things to say for this
- Ahamkara are not known for forming good bonds with each other since they view any other member of their species as competitors. So other Ahamkara would not have any virtuous motive to help him.
sick yew
competitors for what?
dim minnow
- Taranis was all alone, any other Ahamkara were almost certainly dead or unable to reach him
dim minnow
competitors for what?
for their food source which is people wanting wishes
given how Ahamakra feed from the wishes, their food source isn't exactly sharable
- Any other Ahamkara will twist his wish in a bad way. Better Taranis himself granted the Wish so he can guarantee it works out rather than trust another one of his kind (which are known to be deceptive)
Riven couldn't do it herself since she was Taken at the time (and Taranis did not want a part of that)
simply put, there was no way he can reach another Ahamkara from where he was at and even if he did, there was no reason why he could trust them
for reference, he was in his Lair which was in the Black Garden
sick yew
I see I see
So it might be possible for Ahamkara to grant each others wishes but they all hate each other
Does that really make sense tho?
Wouldnt it just make sense for them to grant each other wishes continously for "food"
small quartz
she intends on fulfilling Riven's wishes and allowing the eggs to hatch when the...
what'll happen then?
will we use the Ahamkaras wishes?
and Revive Cayde again
sick yew
what'll happen then?
Shes gonna try something stupid, itll backfire and we have to clean it up
As per usual with Mara
sick yew
The Awoken tend to do stuff like that
small quartz
🤨 huh
sick yew
They have worked with Eliksni so using them to kill other Eliksni probably wouldnt have gone so well
So it was prison time instead
small quartz
Season of Defiance
whatd mara do here
sick yew
Cut a deal with Savathun
small quartz
why
sick yew
uuuuuh Osiris
small quartz
nvm
sick yew
Alright
small quartz
Why do we keep saving Osiris
sick yew
Cause bro is amazing at putting himself in situations where we need to bail him out
small quartz
how many times has he gotten himself in a situation
sick yew
What?
sick yew
Mithrax? Nah hes chilling
small quartz
wait hes not dying?
sick yew
Would be the first time im hearing of this
small quartz
someone lying to me bruh
small quartz
he's basically dying
_ _
small quartz
Men can be queens
sick yew
Fair
small quartz
and He is our Bug Queen
sick yew
@dim minnow can you point me towards some stuff about Mithrax's condition?
small quartz
he used the SPlicer
sick yew
He seemed pretty fine in the Final Shape campaign
small quartz
on Nezarcs? corpse
small quartz
He seemed pretty fine in the Final Shape campaign
hes being strong for us
sick yew
blazing wasp
<@437459720937144320> can you point me towards some stuff about Mithrax's condit...
Not dova but wasnt it just numbness when splicing
sick yew
Not dova but wasnt it just numbness when splicing
I have no idea
You tell me lmao
ember storm
On one hand maybe
On the other I don’t think I want every Eliksni character to be forced into the episode
sick yew
As long as we get Variks i'll be fine
ember storm
I want Variks and the worm to talk
sick yew
The Parasite work?
ember storm
Yes
sick yew
Cause funny same va or what
sick yew
On the other I don’t think I want every Eliksni character to be forced into the ...
Give me the chance to airstrike spider and make room for Mithrax
sick yew
Wait what
ember storm
Robin Atkin Downes
sick yew
He voices spider?
sick yew
I genuinely did not know that
ember storm
He was also the bad guy in the most recent ratchet and clank game and got a bad guy opera song
sick yew
Actually now that I think of it I cant even remember Spiders voice
its come back to me now
Damn
ember storm
ember storm
https://youtu.be/R9CEOzmfW_w?si=YsOq6ndZ0KQG62h9
This is my favorite delivery
He’s such an ass
ember storm
I dunno
sick yew
Probably chilling in the last city trying to stay under Mithrax's radar
ember storm
But what’s funny is that spider is basically just the same performance he had for the second opinion Halloween cosmetic for medic
sick yew
Funny times
dim minnow
But what’s funny is that spider is basically just the same performance he had fo...
I don't hear it
cloud gust
Mentioned in the lore at all?
His last appearance in any way, shape, or form was in the lore tab for the Guardian Games Skimmer
dull raft
thought he was in the post excision inkblot cutscene
alongside variks, with the two of them observing projections of Fikrul and Eramis
sick yew
His last appearance in any way, shape, or form was in the lore tab for the Guard...
What was that about
cloud gust
What was that about
Basically him receiving a skimmer and they didn’t really know who it was from (although it did say who but it’s a group that hasn’t really been depicted much in the lore)
The Concordat
That’s who it was
cloud gust
Allstar Vector
That’s the Skimmer name
slim girder
I do wonder if we'll meet the concordat. Maybe even lysander if he's still alive.
sick yew
Who
slim girder
Lysander is the leader of the concordat
The crucible map bannerfall is the aftermath of a fight guardians had because of him.
sick yew
Oh was that this 4th faction that lives in the old tower
slim girder
Yes. I need to read the lore again but I believe they rose up against the speaker and plotted a coup. This resulted in a faction war involving guardians.
Fun fact I think cayde came up with the name "Lysanders fall" for the map but others wanted no record of his name around so it was called bannerfall instead.
sick yew
I dont recall them having this much lore lmao
But that does sound like the potential plot we thought would happen in Splicer
slim girder
A concordat banner was in the hall of champions during into the light. So I think we will get something about them at some point.
The skimmer was a peace offering from them but eva Levante just decided to redo the paint job with guardian games colours.
sick yew
Based Eva
Thing is I dont really see them appear in the ingame narrative anytime soon
Episode 2 and 3 dont exactly seem like they'd fit in there
maybe Frontiers but eh
slim girder
Me neither. But I could see a side plot involving them.
Like a story told through lore books and in game items.
sick yew
Yeah thats always a possibility
On the note of side stories
Whats Shayura up to these days
slim girder
I have no idea lol. I'm guessing still hunting dark wielding guardians?
sick yew
Last thing I remember hearing about her was during the Witch Queen days when she was put into therapy
When she lost it properly after meeting a hive guardian
slim girder
Sounds like she's gone off the deep end then. Maybe even to an extent she could be dangerous.
slim girder
Another side plot I'm curious about is jana 14 the Warlock researcher and "mother" for the osteo striga.
I really want to see more weapons of sorrow or even armour pieces tied to sorrow like necrotic grips.
dim minnow
Oh was that this 4th faction that lives in the old tower
they were replaced by FWC
sick yew
oh?
dim minnow
Concordat's coup was foiled by New Monarchy at Bannerfall
after that, they were removed from the Last City
then FWC was chosen to take their place
sick yew
Ah
slim girder
Is she the one that experimented with Thorn?
The artefact as it's called yeah. Kept discharging and she became obsessed with it to the point she studied her dying colleague as they were being corrupted. No actual confirmation if it was the original thorn or something else though.
My theory is that it was what became the necrotic grips and yor was attempting to wield the darkness energy from thorn without the need for a weapon.
dim minnow
should be noted that there is no way Jana got her hands on the real Thorn
Shin Malphur kept the real Thorn hidden away for years until he allowed us to obtain it
then we promptly purified it back into Rose which we then transformed into Lumina
sick yew
"promptly" the Lumina quest sitting in my inventory for months before I bothered to use it
slim girder
The original thorn was so dark that incantations were placed on the inside of the chest even to keep it contained.
And it's noted that holding it made our guardian visibly sick.
dim minnow
"promptly" the Lumina quest sitting in my inventory for months before I bothered...
so Jana stole it from you while you weren't looking, then gave it back without you noticing?
sick yew
slim girder
I hope we get more lore and even more exotics that use what I'm just going to call sorrow from now on tbh.
oak oxide
Are there guardians who blur the lines between classes in terms of their abilities?
slim girder
Yes kinda
Efrideet kinda went full titan and threw saladin at a fallen walker.
But as for actual light or even dark abilities no.
dim minnow
Efrideet kinda went full titan and threw saladin at a fallen walker.
it can be argued that what she did was an altered version of the arcstrider throw super
oak oxide
Efrideet kinda went full titan and threw saladin at a fallen walker.
I meant like half one class half the other
slim girder
Not really no.
The classes are pretty set in stone it seems. Only thing that blurs the line now is the light and dark abilities of those classes.
sick yew
Oh yeah @dim minnow now that I have you here
Whats Shayura up to
She still in Guardian therapy?
dim minnow
She still in Guardian therapy?
she's been released and put under the supervision of her fireteam
they even went out on a mission
we get to see it ingame too
sick yew
Lightfall?
dim minnow
Lightfall?
yeah, in the opening cinematic
sick yew
Wait dont tell me shes one of the guardians that got killed by the Witness
dim minnow
Wait dont tell me shes one of the guardians that got killed by the Witness
she wasn't killed
sick yew
Oh thank god
dim minnow
but she was one of the three ships the Witness sliced
sick yew
Damn she survived that?
sick yew
I was about to say
Guess the Titan we literally saw get sliced was Reed then...
Man
What does the Witness have against Titans
First Joxer now Reeed
Well other way around but you get my point
dim minnow
so you already know the Titan killed at the start of Deep is Joxer
sick yew
Yeah
sick yew
but she was one of the three ships the Witness sliced
Did we get a shot of her in person or do we just know she was part of those ships
dim minnow
Did we get a shot of her in person or do we just know she was part of those ship...
we have reason to believe that she was seen in the Seraph finale cinematic
since we know Reed was in the D1 Titan armor in the Lightfall opening and we see a Titan wearing that armor behind Zavala in the Seraph finale
and there are 2 other guardians in D1 armor standing with him in that chutscene
dim minnow
yes
sick yew
Neat
dim minnow
she might have said something about Praxic fire at some point
so that indicates Warlock
sick yew
Yeah
Also the fact shes a huge crybaby
Generally applies more to Warlocks lets be real
And shes obviously not a Titan
We dont go to therapy, we bottle it all up and either become evil or go on an endless war against everyone
Shoutouts to my bros Rezzyl and Saint
slim girder
since we know Reed was in the D1 Titan armor in the Lightfall opening and we see...
RIP reed then considering what the witness did in the lightfall opening.
sick yew
Yeah
slim girder
And then Amanda hit the wreckage of that same ship it looked like.
sick yew
slim girder
I do wonder what that must have been like. Like there's a planes that go down and then there's having your ship go down and re enter earths atmosphere.
dim minnow
you may have said it first, but I said it louder therefore it is my joke
dim minnow
I do wonder what that must have been like. Like there's a planes that go down an...
Amanda's one of the most skilled pilots in the lore she probably handled it fine
sick yew
Not to be disrespectful here but it was high time her luck ran out
Shes been flying air support for years against enemy races known for building city block sized military bases
dim minnow
though it didn't stop the Shadow Legion from scooping her up
sick yew
Not to be disrespectful here but it was high time her luck ran out
Shes been fly...
How she hasnt been blown clean out of the sky years ago is nothing short of a miracle
slim girder
Unfortunately without her ship there's only so much the chaperone can do. Not the most useful PvE weapon after all
dim minnow
fun fact, the whip crack from the weapon is canon
sick yew
It better be
slim girder
Crow experienced that first hand
It was a body shot though tbf.
dim minnow
meaning that all other sound effects from weapons are canon
sick yew
It was a body shot though tbf.
Bro was running low res
sick yew
meaning that all other sound effects from weapons are canon
uuuuh
Yeah sure whatever
I take the yeehaw noise from my dmt being canon
dim minnow
I take the yeehaw noise from my dmt being canon
if the Chaperone's is canon, no reason why DMT's shouldn't be
sick yew
🤠
slim girder
Bro was running low res
You know something interesting is that Amanda and ikora are the only ones who one hand their shotguns. Saint holds his with both hands.
Ikora has a busted deadpan delivery that doesn't even need pumping lol
dim minnow
You know something interesting is that Amanda and ikora are the only ones who on...
he's one-handed Perfect Paradox before
in the cutscene where he exits the Infinite Forest back in Dawn
sick yew
one handing shotguns looks stupid anyway
sick yew
one handing shotguns looks stupid anyway
Makes them feel like they shoot wet blankets
slim girder
he's one-handed Perfect Paradox before
True but definitely not the extent of range ikora or Amanda has.
Executing a vex that's laying right next to you wouldn't really need two hands
sick yew
Again I dont see why you would one hand a shotgun anyway
slim girder
Same reason people sometimes hold guns sideways or fan fire with revolvers It looks cool and you aren't going for accuracy. You're trying to spray shots so whatever is around you tries to hide instead of shooting back
small quartz
Shes with cayde in this gif
sick yew
Amanda
dim minnow
Amanda Holliday
small quartz
Right
dim minnow
she's a highly skilled pilot
small quartz
bruh
sick yew
Same reason people sometimes hold guns sideways or fan fire with revolvers It lo...
But thats the thing
Shotguns are so clunky one handing them makes it look stupid
slim girder
Like best in the tower level if skilled
small quartz
I get that but 😭 isnt she lightless
dim minnow
so?
sick yew
Realistically the best pilot in the system couldnt even glance at a proper Cabal outpost without being blown to bits but this is a video game
sick yew
also she can come back to life one day
interesting to think about
Could sure
Will? I doubt it
dim minnow
Realistically the best pilot in the system couldnt even glance at a proper Cabal...
there are 2 likely explanations to this
sick yew
Why
small quartz
that'd be so cool
dim minnow
- Amanda is just that skilled
- Cabal are just that [redacted]
slim girder
Big Gamble
She explained it pretty well at one point.
She knows she's lightless but in her ship she's just as powerful as any other guardian.
sick yew
1. Amanda is just that skilled
2. Cabal are just that [redacted]
The highly skilled pilot when I press the target lock and fire button on my car park sized anti air installation
small quartz
Spaceflight is super cool and it could make for a few interesting missions
Bungie has done it before
sick yew
They havent?
dim minnow
They havent?
Halo Reach
small quartz
... did Bungie do reach?
sick yew
Oh Halo
small quartz
Yeah they did
sick yew
Also id be like impossible to implement into Destiny
With so insanely many different ships
dim minnow
The highly skilled pilot when I press the target lock and fire button on my car ...
the installations probably got sabotaged too
small quartz
I can fly this
small quartz
The living quarters in this one will go crazy
YEAH
ROCK FLOORS AND BENCHES AND BED
PLEASE BUNGIE
slim girder
Destiny just isn't that kind of game unfortunately. The best we'll get is cutscenes with our ship
small quartz
Destiny just isn't that kind of game unfortunately. The best we'll get is cutsce...
i crashed mine in one ❤️
dim minnow
I like to imagine that the inside of Radiant Accipiter is kind of like a pocket dimension of sorts
small quartz
i owe so much money to the insurance company
dim minnow
since the ship itself is paracausal
sick yew
the installations probably got sabotaged too
Maybe but she has also flown in active warzones where there wasnt exactly time to sabotage defenses beforehand
small quartz
okay how tf do people Imbue light into guns bruh
dim minnow
I man again, really good piloting
slim girder
I like to imagine that the inside of Radiant Accipiter is kind of like a pocket ...
It is. Crow talked about it. It's like just hovering inside of a pocket of space pondering.
sick yew
Dumb luck
dim minnow
It is. Crow talked about it. It's like just hovering inside of a pocket of space...
where was this voice line?
slim girder
Lemme try and find it
small quartz
Crow needs to hit the Los Santos barbers my guy
sick yew
Final Shape I think
dim minnow
wasn't it in one of the Lost Ghost quests?
sick yew
Or that
sick yew
I do recall him talking about the ship during the FS campaign or post campaign
slim girder
This was before FS
dim minnow
I know he said something about how while it is his ship he lets us use it whenever
sick yew
okay how tf do people Imbue light into guns bruh
for a skilled guardian its second nature
sick yew
Once youve learned how to use the light you can do a lot of stuff with it
dim minnow
okay how tf do people Imbue light into guns bruh
we simply want our gun to kill
sick yew
How do companies do it
Wdym
small quartz
How does Omolon do it
sick yew
They dont?
dim minnow
I mean, Light can be quantified with the right instruments
sick yew
I dont think Omolon ever produced guns that utilise light
dim minnow
Hard Light?
small quartz
You know what I mean 😦
sick yew
Hard Light?
Theres actual light in hard light?
dim minnow
Tlaloc might since its perk lets it change damage type
dim minnow
Theres actual light in hard light?
idk, it's just the name
sick yew
I got a gun called escape velocity
And I havent left the planet shooting that thing yet
small quartz
huh
dim minnow
according to the weapon's grimoire card in D1, a THanatonaut did help in creating it
small quartz
Hard Light got a 97% 😭
dim minnow
and it has been stated a few times here before that the Last City walls are pumped with Paracausal energy via pipes
slim girder
I know he said something about how while it is his ship he lets us use it whenev...
Iirc it's a lore book where he's just pondering himself after savathun showed him his past. And glint is there as well I think
dim minnow
There is no true cockpit inside the Radiant Accipiter; the ship's canopy projects an image to the pilot. No frame, no obstructions, just the infinite gulf. Crow stares up at the blackness between a cluster of stars he can't identify; he wishes he were there. Where nothing is known, where everything can be new again.
from the Season of the Lost Ripples lore book
sick yew
Damn