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[zinc pewter]

after 30 seconds or so yes

thats still awful

[plush breach]

More like 4 minutes

[woeful pasture]

nothing really for bosses ig if you cant get ofa from ads

[zinc pewter]

especially for a weapon you're constantly shooting/using

[zinc pewter]

how is that fun?

[drifting plaza]

oh ouch yeah only chill clip makes sense in there

[plush breach]

Dont ask me man, i was a new light hunter back then that used grand as ad clear

[zinc pewter]

huh

[plush breach]

Its why i have 3k kills with grand overture for some reason

[light walrus]

will i regret this choice

[drifting plaza]

well i guess unless there's an EA GL in the second slot can't really get any faster than iza wilderflight for EA tomorrow's answer

[jade whale]

The reason it's great atm is because of that one artifact perk

[drifting plaza]

try it out

[drifting plaza]

yeah conductive cosmic crystal

[light walrus]

it's what im doing rn

[woeful pasture]

the more dmg vs stasis debuffed one?

[jade whale]

Ye

[drifting plaza]

nah i was thinking like you go gl gl rocket gl gl rocket

but that would mean no time for alh to reload the gls, so it has to be 2 EA gls

[plush breach]

Oh boy i cant wait too see lost signal get abandoned into the abyss after this seasons over

[zinc pewter]

why would it be

[woeful pasture]

Am curious about how good darci makes supremacy

[plush breach]

Oh wait thats right the new gl is arc

Ignore me

Lost signal survives for now

[zinc pewter]

new gl will be meh unless it has jolting feedback imo

[plush breach]

Theres alotta perks that im curious about for it

[drifting plaza]

don't think people will use sup

[woeful pasture]

it has... full court?

[plush breach]

What

[drifting plaza]

because. well. new and improved praedyth's revenge

[woeful pasture]

bungie hinted it ig

[drifting plaza]

unless it has sucky pve perks i guess

[zinc pewter]

what about it

[woeful pasture]

it's oddly quesionable

[jade whale]

Full court sucks

[plush breach]

Knowing bungie its gonna somehow get dual QuickDraw

[zinc pewter]

im not interested in any of the VoG weapons ngl

[plush breach]

Same with the support ar

[zinc pewter]

we already have what vog offers, elsewhere

[plush breach]

Theres alot im interested in

the shotgun if it gets closing time may be good

[zinc pewter]

Scavengers Fate is better

[plush breach]

The rpg if it gets some decent perks with that origin trait might break the game

[jade whale]

Can't wait to do a weekly duo vog for 2 months

[woeful pasture]

Fatebringer probably overtakes midnight again as best kinetic hc

[zinc pewter]

nah

[viral saddle]

is Hezen worse than others despite the perk pool refresh?

[plush breach]

I would genuinely enlist for that

[zinc pewter]

we dont know yet but im not gonna get my hopes up

[plush breach]

We dont know

But the origin trait is scary

[jade whale]

Well I'll be doing it with a friend

[drifting plaza]

hezen at least gets overflow so might be nice for mag dumping strategy

[plush breach]

Bro we have moved on please dont be annoying

[viral saddle]

that's what I'm hoping

[drifting plaza]

like a nighthawk hunter with hezen and still hunt

[plush breach]

I want it too have bns

Thats it

[drifting plaza]

rocket rocket super rocket rocket stillhunt super

[plush breach]

The origin trait and bns would be enough to make me happy for a dps rotation

And its solar

So

[woeful pasture]

I want corrective measure not to be void

[drifting plaza]

i wonder if stillhunt super counts for hezen perk

would be crazy if it does lol

[plush breach]

Kinetic, rewind, firefly

Done

[plush breach]

Doesnt still hunts super not count as an actual super?

Watch the code conflict and it does

[jade whale]

It's not a super

[woeful pasture]

watch bungie make it not work when the gun is stowed

[plush breach]

I can be whimsical and hopeful

I do wonder what the shotgun will get

The scout i dont care about

[woeful pasture]

Last seasons scout is prob better anyway

[plush breach]

I do not like red tape

No wait

The echoes one

Both bad

[zinc pewter]

scouts in general are awful

[woeful pasture]

yea was about to say

[plush breach]

I disagree because of dead mans but other then that i agree

[zinc pewter]

dmt is a pvp weapon

[plush breach]

Yup

[woeful pasture]

praying to god polaris doesnt become meta again, it was so boring to run gms with everyone sitting back on it

[zinc pewter]

it never was meta

[woeful pasture]

season of the wish

[plush breach]

Scout rifles would be good if it didnt feel like i was shooting a sniper rifles that did the damage of a handcannon

[zinc pewter]

never was meta, it was still terrible

[plush breach]

Polaris meta

Huh

I didnt play much during wish

[zinc pewter]

people coped on Polaris because it ignited after 10 crits

[plush breach]

I dont see how that would be meta

It would be good but idk bout meta

[woeful pasture]

Made 25 minute sitting in the back gms particulary "fun"

when realistically you'd be almost at the boss again in the second run with a functional brain

if running anythin that isnt polaris

[plush breach]

I had someone do that with trustee in an lfg gm and just left

[woeful pasture]

best part was when i had someone shoot the ogres in corrupted with it

[plush breach]

I dont actually think i have polaris

I have the legendary version

[woeful pasture]

not missing out

[plush breach]

Good too know

[woeful pasture]

If i would be literally forced to run a long range weapon i'd probably run hierachy or wish ender tbh

[viral saddle]

got half health down but made a silly mistake

[woeful pasture]

how silly

[plush breach]

At that point just use a bow

[viral saddle]

each run I do gets better but still, I really dislike having to do the damage equivalent to a 6p fireteam

[plush breach]

Scout rifles are worse bows

Wish ender my beloved

[viral saddle]

forgot to pop transcendance and died

[woeful pasture]

oh

[plush breach]

I dont actually have hierarchy either lol

[woeful pasture]

got the cat, it's satisfying to shoot through funny ring

[plush breach]

I kinda wish hierarchys cat would be those old ikelos balls

If it gets one

[woeful pasture]

let the bow do all the work for you

it has a cat

[plush breach]

Ah

[woeful pasture]

the catalyst makes it usable in first place

[zinc pewter]

it wasnt good either

[plush breach]

I am missing a large chunk of dungeon and raid exotics outside of like the quest ones and the deep stone one

[woeful pasture]

only dungeon one i'm missing is heartshadow

[plush breach]

I needa do duality

I want the warlock helm

Ran it like three times and gave up

When it comes to luck for dungeon or exotic weapons i have none

[woeful pasture]

I need the crafted guns from duality

so fixed odds and i think the fusion

[plush breach]

Same here

Weirdly enough doesnt aus drop from presage and duality?

No wait

Nvm

[woeful pasture]

dont know if from duality

[plush breach]

I do want both the lmg and fusion

Seeing as my dungeon and half my raid team dipped on me though ive been mostly just soloing secret chests

I havent looked at either of rhere perk pools yet

[woeful pasture]

Need i think patterns for each gun from presage but literally dont feel like getting them

[plush breach]

Im one away from the calus mini tool and im tempted to grind another to put deepsight in it

[woeful pasture]

well the fusion ig doesn't seem worth

[plush breach]

Whats it get

The lmg looks fine enough for a solar

[zinc pewter]

yea the fusion is awful

[plush breach]

Oh

Thats

No

[zinc pewter]

i know a few people who played back in Opulence that were real disappointed with the pool

[woeful pasture]

exists in the same world as zealots, glacio and even vs gravitic

[plush breach]

Fixed odds i do want

Killing tally, feeding frenzy

Or incan

I cant sit still so field prep is impossible for me

[woeful pasture]

for pve it's more of a skip right? the vesper fusion

[zinc pewter]

yea

great pvp fusion from what ive heard

[plush breach]

I want one with demo and chain

[woeful pasture]

got one with under pressure closing but everything else rolled bad, tho feels good

[plush breach]

Its good in pvp but even then zealots is better

[woeful pasture]

chain reaction is unfortunately bad

wave frames killed chain on specials

[plush breach]

I want it purely just to have it lol

Buff chain reaction

[woeful pasture]

real i want to use the chain reaction discord shotgun

[plush breach]

Closing time under pressure though is a roll i want for pvp

[plush breach]

Ass

Dont

I have both volt and the chain ded gramarye

Voltshot ded is very fun

Chain reaction is litterally just the origin trait

[woeful pasture]

well i mean if i want chain reaction on a shotgun theres always swordbreaker with cursed thrall

[plush breach]

Chain reaction sounds like such a fun perk

I was so hyped to find it on a shotgun

Boy its awful

[drifting plaza]

it got nerfed for special weapons

[woeful pasture]

On low end i like running the chain reaction incan sword

[drifting plaza]

because well forbearance

[plush breach]

Wave frame chain is fun

I find it fun

[light walrus]

only died 21 times but i did the first mission for legend

[woeful pasture]

nice

[plush breach]

The season of the deep sword that isrnt taken i got the god roll of it from banshee

Ad clear god anyways

Useless for anything else

[woeful pasture]

whats that one got

[zinc pewter]

sword for add clear isnt good

[zinc pewter]

it has Relentless + Whirlwind though is a bottom of the barrel damage sword

[light walrus]

umm.

[woeful pasture]

Was forced to in contest vesper

[plush breach]

Incan relentless

[silk reef]

oh kay whys the quality really bad

[zinc pewter]

obviously excluding Ergo

[plush breach]

I have it purely for funny jetstream sam

[woeful pasture]

Had to kill the yellows on first enc asap so took a vortex sword to melt them

[zinc pewter]

i just used an EL rocket

[plush breach]

I used parasite

[zinc pewter]

i was using Bad Juju so couldnt parasite

[woeful pasture]

I used sword for the yellows and agers for brigs

[plush breach]

I am allergic to swords

[woeful pasture]

with renewal

[light walrus]

how do i fix this?

[zinc pewter]

launch it from the map

[light walrus]

found it thanks

[woeful pasture]

sometimes you gotta use swords i guess like uhh crota

or well, skating

[light walrus]

[plush breach]

I used colony and shadowshot

I am that good of a teammate

[woeful pasture]

shadowshot?

[plush breach]

Hunter void super

[woeful pasture]

yeah both are called shadowshot was confused for a bit

[plush breach]

Nah but seriously i pulled out the falling guill from my inventory fro

The big fan from onslaught

Terrible roll

[woeful pasture]

i ran slammer

cause stasis and agers so i could throw in some surges

[plush breach]

When i had a team they did like 8 mill with bequest

Personally i do not want bequest

[woeful pasture]

i want eyes of tomorrow for a single reason

[zinc pewter]

no need for it when Guillotine exists

[woeful pasture]

i got an ornament from a bright engram

[plush breach]

Ye i mixed it up

This is the falling i was using

This is one of like 4 swords i have minus the three i have on each class for skatinf

And whirlwind is

Really bad

[zinc pewter]

its not

[plush breach]

3% damage increase though

[zinc pewter]

no?

10 stacks, 30% buff

you have the best roll you can get on that sword

[plush breach]

Ye sorry 30%

I kind wanna get bns

Or for crota specifically surrounded

[zinc pewter]

bns is not good on swords

[plush breach]

Im gonna try to get one with frenzy and surrounded with jagged

I still dont really know why bequest is so good with crotas

Outside of surrounded

[drifting plaza]

surrounded and bequest weirdly enough has higher impact than other swords

which actually translates to more damage per hit

[drifting plaza]

bns is now also 30%

it's not 35% anymore haha

[plush breach]

Damn

When was it nerfed

[drifting plaza]

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/destiny_2_update_7_3_5 this specific patch

[plush breach]

Ah yes

Is that not the same one that nerfed target lock?

[drifting plaza]

only for smgs

the custom tuning thing, which has been unnerfed again for smgs

so basically ignore that target lock change since it doesn't exist anymore

[plush breach]

Yeah

I dont hate it

Ive heard people complain in pvp but i really dont see an issue

[zinc pewter]

even if bns wasnt nerfed, it would still be bad on swords

[drifting plaza]

that was before with the whole titan peacekeeper cloudstrike meta

[zinc pewter]

the downtime between activations is too much of a damage loss

[zinc pewter]

val do you still use Arc Conductor Ergo Sum

if you even have one

[drifting plaza]

i stopped using ergo sum since echoes lol. but i do still have it

i'm not a fan of swords in general

[zinc pewter]

yea i havent used mine either much since the artifact changed

[drifting plaza]

only lament was satisfying to use

[zinc pewter]

having ammo refund on multikills is what kept me using Ergo

😭

[plush breach]

I dont actually use ergo lol

Like ever

[drifting plaza]

lmfao

i think this is a new one with a better blade and guard and i deleted the old one

used to use the old one in onslaught

[zinc pewter]

i got real lucky with my roll

[drifting plaza]

oh nice

[zinc pewter]

also got in GM Excision early too

actually

@mystic saddle did you ever get your roll?

[mystic saddle]

ergo?

[zinc pewter]

yea

[mystic saddle]

only got a decent arc conductor

lw gjally but no dps ergo yet

[zinc pewter]

rip

[mystic saddle]

just wish there were more ways to farm em

[celest jungle]

It is done..

I can go back to Warframe now

[dusky steppe]

Was it worth it

[celest jungle]

Not really

But I already paid for it

Might as well get my money worth

Sunk cost fallacy and all that

[dusky steppe]

It is what it is

Wish I had the same motivation as you

[drifting plaza]

damn

hats off to you

i never complete this

[zinc pewter]

i had to play Rift for mine because i left the crucible challenges too late

[celest jungle]

I missed out on the Mayhem and Momentum Control

Had to grind through the lengthy ones in Tomb and Onslaught instead

[clever pine]

and then they just autocompleted the rift challenge

[zinc pewter]

they didnt bozo

[clever pine]

yea they did

[zinc pewter]

this week?

they auto completed it?

[ionic jetty]

they did

i just claimed it

[zinc pewter]

what the fuck man

i did it on reset day

what even was the progression issue

[clever pine]

[celest jungle]

Moral of the story, wait til the last week to do stuff

[zinc pewter]

[woeful pasture]

😭

[agile ravine]

Retrofit in the year 2025

[warm sorrel]

SNEAKY BEAVER PROVES ONCE MORE WHY HES THE GOAT OF D2

[agile ravine]

Incredible

[drifting plaza]

does retrofit even make a difference now

because iirc volatile explosions have a cooldown

[light walrus]

i got that done alot quicker than anticipated especially solo

[clever pine]

no, they're still clinging onto the Seraph bug even though it's been fixed since Seraph

[drifting plaza]

congrats. may you have more victories in the future

[light walrus]

just gotta do the last 3 now

i mean i've done focus mode 3 times now so

[wicked burrow]

NOW THAT'S HARD AF

[opaque solar]

Maybe, but that looks like the big boss guy of the Dread atm

[thorn hill]

Oh

[opaque solar]

I see what you mean though

haven't seen this screenshot before

[thorn hill]

Apparently it was from a Playstation blog

[zinc pewter]

The emblem or my screenshot?

[wicked burrow]

Both

[zinc pewter]

That's not the contest emblem btw, we still have no idea about the dungeon other than Dread and Rhulks Pyramid

[wicked burrow]

Oh

-_-

[hallow needle]

Microcosm actually gonna be goated?!

[jade lance]

I was pretty nonchalant but you can hear a little bit of excitement in my voice

[agile ravine]

Ngl I half expected you to sound like Eris

[jade lance]

I wish

I can do a decent Saladin impression though

[agile ravine]

She’s very good at what she does

I also can’t imagine Omnigul was fun for her

[jade lance]

Oh wait was Omnigul voiced by Morla?

[agile ravine]

Yeah Omnigul and basic wizard sounds iirc

[jade lance]

Oh nice

[light walrus]

why did your excitement sound like slenderman quickly appearing for a second

tell me im wrong or not

[zinc pewter]

Just a teeny bit of excitement

[jade lance]

A modicum even

A morsel, maybe

[zinc pewter]

Nezarec reference

[jade lance]

An iota, perhaps

[zinc pewter]

Turned my ps3 on after a while and found this on the store's preview page 💀

[surreal cradle]

Wait till #📗gambit-playbook sees this

Running graviton is wild

[jade lance]

Why’s that?

[zinc pewter]

It's not optimized!!

[surreal cradle]

You typically want to run something that can one shot an opponent

But as long as you're having fun I can't judge

[jade lance]

Clearly I was so skilled I didn’t need to

But tbh I didn’t care about that, I was just using my Void build to finish a seasonal challenge

[surreal cradle]

It's not about you being skilled it's about if they are skilled tbh

[surreal cradle]

That's so fair

Sometimes I feel like I should just run whatever in gambit too cuz like damn sometimes it's annoying to not hit your shots

[plush breach]

Truth in gambit

[light walrus]

welp after a little break i'm only one away

[plush breach]

keep or go for envious assasin instead?

[limpid hearth]

envious assassin is bad for primary weapons

also this smg isnt great

if you want a good strand smg, the salvations edge one is better

[zinc pewter]

If you want Hatchling, Rufus, Imminence and Better Devils exist

[plush breach]

i purely want it it cuz its a 600 aswell as the origin trait is fun

since the rockets if i recall also work with the titan chest piece

[limpid hearth]

600 is the worst pve frame

[plush breach]

i use my belisarius and id like too get robin or better devils

[plush breach]

i prefer it over 900

[quaint forum]

dune crossover when?

[plush breach]

this being my most used strand weapon lol

[limpid hearth]

i dont remember if it does, but those little rockets are doing nothing for you even with that exotic chest piece

[limpid hearth]

id use better devils, 120s arent really ideal for pve

theyre just 140s but slower

[plush breach]

isent better a 120?

[zinc pewter]

Round Robin has terrible pve perks iirc

[plush breach]

hatchling keep away

its fine imo

[zinc pewter]

Even with, slow ass reload speed

[limpid hearth]

keep away is NOT fine

[plush breach]

completely forgot better devils was a 140 lol

[plush breach]

that frame is almost always a 120

[zinc pewter]

Lightfall weapons (and even defiance) suffer from shit 3rd column

[quaint forum]

ah, i am 🐌

[zinc pewter]

Not including RoN

[half bear]

120s arent good pve, usually suffer from poor reload and handling or bad pve perks

[plush breach]

imo its the fact the damage modifier from 140s isent big enough for a gap too use them

i still enjoy them but i know alot of others dont

oh and the fact not alot have decent perks

[zinc fable]

how did i get this done-

1. i don't have the icebreaker
2. i don't use sniper rifles overall-

[half bear]

i enjoyed using igneous for a bit but any red still takes just 1 shot with both frames, so i just swapped back to zauoli

[limpid hearth]

it was auto completed for everyone

[half bear]

was nice killing some yellow bars 1 shot faster tho

[plush breach]

even then if its a higher difficulty both red bars and yellow become two or three tap with both

[limpid hearth]

it was meant to be with alethonym but for some reason the requirement was icebreaker

[plush breach]

if 120s had decent perks and did more damage i think theyd be used more

[zinc fable]

fair

[half bear]

literally

give me my 120 pve dmg buff

[limpid hearth]

doubtful, they will still just be slower 140s

[plush breach]

bungie is a middle ground for balancing

i can be hopeful with 120s

[stoic citrus]

Yebs

[limpid hearth]

yk, not everything needs to be good in pve

[half bear]

wrong opinion

[limpid hearth]

sometimes stuff is for pvp exclusively and thats okay

[plush breach]

i dunno if im correct but a while ago when i first started with my old something new it felt really good in nightfalls cuz it one tapped alot of enemies out the gates to the head

[plush breach]

i dont think an entire frame should be for pvp

weapons yes

a certain frame no

[limpid hearth]

why not

[plush breach]

i like using 120s

and i dont want them too be ass outside of pvp when i dont enjoy pvp

my most used handcannons are 120s

[limpid hearth]

pvp is an integral part of destiny, i dont see the issue with having frames that are much better for pvp but bad in pve

[plush breach]

and heavy burst ig

[plush breach]

pvp is integral maybe but good god i do not want to play it

[stoic citrus]

Exuviae is like the only 120 I need for pve ever

[limpid hearth]

i like bows and yet they arent doing so hot and i accept that

[plush breach]

i dont enjoy pvp so that doesnt mean i cant root for my favourite frame too be buffed

gating an entire frame too a singular activity ruins the entire thing

[limpid hearth]

hierarchy of needs is debatably my favourite weapon in the game but its a niche playstyle and i accept it for what it is, im not gonna ask bungie rework its identity just because its inconvenient for me

[plush breach]

thats fine

everybody likes a certain weapon

i like 600s smg and like 120s

[limpid hearth]

that applies to weapon frames too

[stoic citrus]

That's not really similar

[plush breach]

that still doesnt mean it should be just a pvp frame

[half bear]

you have play hierarchy diff from like every other bow

[stoic citrus]

120s feel fine in pve but I won't say no to any buff they can muster

[limpid hearth]

you can like pvp centric frames in pve, but that doesnt mean bungie has to change and buff them so that they are good in pve

[plush breach]

ANY weapon should be balanced pvp and out

not gated to one activity

[limpid hearth]

yeah its a very niche playstyle, sit in a spot and just go wild

[stoic citrus]

Wonder where I've seen that before, cat grin emoji

[limpid hearth]

not everything has to be viable in anything

[plush breach]

i enjoy something new alot being the first ever weapon too hit 1000 kills with but i still think it the frame should be buffed in pve

[limpid hearth]

no matter what buffs bungie does, it still wont be ideal to use in pve, because like i said, just a slower 140

[plush breach]

thats your opinion

but

i like 120s purely because of the power the have and or they should have

[limpid hearth]

its not even an opinion, its quite literally a slower 140

[stoic citrus]

I don't see an eyasluna with rimestealer or dark ether reaper

Therefore, 140 bad, 120 good

[plush breach]

while doing less damage your point

[stoic citrus]

Shrimple as pie

[plush breach]

i like both 140s and 120s

180s meh

[half bear]

bro tried to sneak in rimestealer

[plush breach]

but 120s i will always feel like should do more damage

[limpid hearth]

the damage difference is very minimal

[stoic citrus]

I did because its like the one thing to use on exuviae

[plush breach]

[plush breach]

thats what im addressing 💀

[stoic citrus]

It let's me use frost armour easily without speccing into it and destroying half my build

[plush breach]

i will never understand the rimestealer hate

[limpid hearth]

cause frost armour is very easily accessible so using a weapon mod to get it is kind of a waste

[plush breach]

thats crazy

[limpid hearth]

im like, meh about rimestealer

[plush breach]

i still dont understand

frost armour is fun and good to use

[limpid hearth]

but its very easy to earn frost armour

[plush breach]

frost armour is annoying too consistantly have unless your hard wired to do so

rimestealer is litterally free healing

[limpid hearth]

i didnt say it wasnt, im just saying that is very easily accessible

[sand ginkgo]

How do warlocks get frost armour again, haven't used anything but pris for a while

[limpid hearth]

ive only just start using warlock again let me check

[plush breach]

i will say headstone is only ever interesting on hand cannons or pulse

[limpid hearth]

glacial harvest

[stoic citrus]

Rimestealer is good for me because it let's me spec more into rimecoats lethality and uptime

[plush breach]

oh i forgot i had this

[limpid hearth]

it should be extremely easy to freeze targets as a warlock

[plush breach]

splice

[stoic citrus]

I need to break crystals for the nade regen, why not benefit off of that with rimestealer so I can utilise both my aspects towards what I really want

[plush breach]

i like it cuz you get free health and healing for essentially using headstone as its supposed to

like meganeura

but

health

[limpid hearth]

you dont use tectonic harvest?

cause it does rimestealer's role

for the frost armour i mean

[sand ginkgo]

Rimestealer in my mind is if you are using prismatic

[plush breach]

this weapons perk pool is so actually garbage but god do i love how it looks

[half bear]

it can get trench at least

[plush breach]

subsi, trench? or do i go for bottomless grief and trench

[stoic citrus]

I like iceflare bolts because then any who survive the nuclear bomb get frozen and become another bomb

[plush breach]

or lead from gold and trench

[limpid hearth]

oh you warlock

whats your other aspect

bleak?

[half bear]

this one

[stoic citrus]

Plus what else do I really run on exuviae

[limpid hearth]

wait comedian has a good roll?

[stoic citrus]

Yes because rimecoat

I throw a nuclear bomb, I blow it up, people die and I get frost armour

Survivors become more bombs, they blow up and I get more

And then dark ether orb for free ammo and it's yet another bomb

[plush breach]

my infant son will soon be an artifact of a better time

[limpid hearth]

i mean you can go coldsnap, get stasis shards from freezing, earn frost armour through glacial harvest, kill, freeze spreads with iceflare, and repeat

[plush breach]

the comedian is the best looking shotgun imo

[stoic citrus]

Why would I use the regular grenade

[limpid hearth]

its actually pretty neat

[stoic citrus]

Instead of throwing ballistic rift point devices on command

[limpid hearth]

if youre using osmiomancy it refunds what feels like the entire grenade

or you can go fuck it we ball and use ager's

[stoic citrus]

I'm gonna throw 77 bricks at you

[limpid hearth]

i eated the bricks

[plush breach]

coldsnap my beloved

[rotund python]

yeah coldsnap is kinda crazy with osmiomancy

[solemn estuary]

Ppl be like “go touch grass I CANT I EATED IT ALL

[rotund python]

zamn i see 2 more mods

[plush breach]

you have got to be kidding me

[pastel kiln]

This is so relatable

[solemn estuary]

Indeed

[vale ore]

What

[gentle sable]

he rolled for i-frames

[keen sinew]

i still think this is the best thing ive done in the game to this day haha

[jade lance]

Oh nice!

[surreal cradle]

I have a god roll on this and it kinda sucks

[plush breach]

i want hatchling rapid hit and thats it

[limpid hearth]

it has explosive demo so as far as im concerned, its my goat

[plush breach]

for a strand handcannon that isenr round

[plush breach]

new pacific my goat

[surreal cradle]

pretty sure I have explosive frenzy

[limpid hearth]

unfortunately theyre in the same slot

[surreal cradle]

are they?

ya nvm

I thought I didn't have demo on that one but I do

demo frenzy

[surreal cradle]

I have something similar

[surreal cradle]

WAIT I have actually nearly exactly the same roll, but in the first countermass and confined launch instead

[plush breach]

damn

i havent used it yet cuz im dense

i need a primary with pugilist since my build runs teh arcane needles

[rotund python]

tusk of the boar my goat

slideways chain react

absolute peak

[terse dock]

@proven hedge

[rotund python]

what is destiny even about anymore🙏

[cosmic fossil]

whered it go

[rotund python]

i stole it

[icy jackal]

thank you Bungie, I love not getting the loot i spent an hour in an activity for (apologies for hdr)

[pastel kiln]

space stuff or something

then like

[pallid delta]

There's o lying so much one can do

[zinc pewter]

That's not bungie's fault

[gentle sable]

it really isn't

slight skill issue, i think

[sour cliff]

i cant even solo the easiest gm in the game
this is depressing

[plush breach]

:>

ive got the two of them

[sour cliff]

nvm i got it

[half bear]

first try

get out timed

[sour cliff]

i am not that guy unfortunately

[half bear]

i am

[sour cliff]

😎

[zinc pewter]

Maven roll

[plush breach]

maven?

[zinc pewter]

https://youtu.be/BjSgvpu1uyI?si=zhco7w97qGjzwkM3

Clown youtuber

[plush breach]

never watched them

i dont watch d2 youtubers

outside of maybe tutorials

and jev and datto

[half bear]

most d2 youtubers post slop anyway

[plush breach]

this build does this. then shows a build that like 9 other things can do

i do like ded gram though

its one of those funny silly weapons that does smt it feels like it shouldnt

like zealot in pvp

[half bear]

has always been one of the best pvp rapid fires

[plush breach]

well yeah but the newer one

craftable

crazy range

its very silly

prophet on the other hand i do not want to touch anymore

[half bear]

new version doesnt have HIR

[plush breach]

really?

"lets remove the most used perk from the old one"

[zinc pewter]

https://youtu.be/QHkta8BdjL8?si=X4sdKWvIXaz_-gqG

[zinc pewter]

karnstiens cope

[sand ginkgo]

Syntho necrotic warlock?

Imagine

[zinc pewter]

necrotic is kinda bad for lightning surge

hoil is far better

[sand ginkgo]

Hoil sythno could be fun

[zinc pewter]

imo its the only roll you should be using with lightning surge

otherwise it does little damage and you dont have enough uptime

[mystic saddle]

problem with lightning surge is it takes the spot of better aspects

the buff has to be pre good to even consider it

[drifting plaza]

nice, grats

[drifting plaza]

tbf it's passable even now

[mystic saddle]

nah no way, like its fun and decent for ad clear

but arc souls are so free

and electrostatic is a must have

only thing potentially replacing souls is the new ball thingy

[drifting plaza]

oh you mean on arc

yeah on arc i'm not using lightning surge

[mystic saddle]

yea

[drifting plaza]

i'm using it on prismatic, where you get synthos class item

so, +165% damage

[mystic saddle]

oh yea for sure

i hope its good

[zinc pewter]

erm

you cant use class items on arc

[ionic jetty]

not with that attitude

[zinc pewter]

[mystic saddle]

mael got u there

[mystic saddle]

ik i still meant theres better aspects

on prism n base

[zinc pewter]

Eh

Wait

Cocomelon build with lightning surge might be peak

[mystic saddle]

[frail locust]

Disagree. Necrotic plus claw or synthoceps is very nice when paired with jolt that already comes from the ability.

[vestal dragon]

https://medal.tv/games/destiny-2/clips/jC5cs7y9MHCPDvv55?invite=cr-MSwzaHQsMzMyMDkzMDExLA

[frail locust]

With the buff that combo just gets better.

[mystic saddle]

hoil will always better better in this scenario

[vestal dragon]

my hatred for warlock jump grows stronger day by day

[mystic saddle]

since youre truing to achieve wot hoil syntho titan does

[foggy radish]

Feeling kinda lightheaded, and I dont know why......

[frail locust]

You shouldn't be trying to achieve what another class does. Just use that class if you want that.

[mystic saddle]

high dmg melee that nukes rooms?

isnt a class specific tbf

both titans n hunters can do it

[latent jolt]

Idk much about the build, but I do know one of my teammates has been trying it out and he was able to do right side of herald solo on master difficulty without much issue

[frail locust]

Yeah both with ignitions, warlocks don't get ignitions with lightning surge.
Lightning surge necrotic can clear a room as well but is not meant to be a massive damage powerhouse like combo blow or consecration

It's a utility melee. You use it to kill small to mid tier enemies and to trigger effects like for example bolt charge with the update.

[mystic saddle]

syntho lock?

i hope the buff makes it fun for sure

[latent jolt]

Idk exactly what he had on the class item

[ionic jetty]

@pallid delta
Russian was not correct, I'm afraid

[latent jolt]

IP logger

[ionic jetty]

it is a playable voice file if you aren't on mobile

you goober

[latent jolt]

I didn’t stutter

92.0.0.6

Idk man it’s 5:30am

[gentle sable]

my IP has been discovered by Mael

[sand ginkgo]

I thought the hunter super dooper melee was nerfedm

[solemn estuary]

Mael’s too nice to take people’s IP

[drifting plaza]

it's def fun, been just farming gm birthplace solo this week with it

well, "farm" is a strong word, i'm not a speedrunner lol. like 23-25min clears per run

[silk sinew]

first match of the ticket

[jade whale]

Damn that sounds pretty neat

[jade whale]

We have been blessed 🙏

[empty igloo]

wtf Ive never even seen that second message

[jade whale]

It's flawless flawless iirc

[light walrus]

time to end legend difficulty

now which one shall i pick

[bronze haven]

gifted

[zinc pewter]

Thr poison does nothing if the jolt+initial melee already kill

[frail locust]

It'll spread the poison.

[zinc pewter]

Barely if everything just instantly dies

It really isn't that great at all with lightning surge

[frail locust]

If you kill anything with lightning surge with necrotic on you will get a poison burst that'll spread.

[zinc pewter]

Like I said it barely provides any benefit

I've used it in multiple add clear encounters and found it to just be useless compared to hoil which allows for better uptime on Lightning Surge

[frail locust]

Why are you using multiple lightning surges? And I already have solid uptime on mine already.
Just 1 well placed surge clears out basically everything and at with Thorn I can just keep that poison chain going until everything has poison on it.

I get an ionic trace, an orb and with the update bolt charge stacks which will give even more energy.

If I place it well enough I could definitely use 1 and get it right back

[zinc pewter]

Why wouldn't I be using multiple lightning surges? Adds consistently spawn in multiple locations and can't all be hit with a single surge

Same goes for consecration

Even in gms when your constantly progressing

[frail locust]

Don't use it like consecration. I feel a lot of people are just always trying to make it like consecration when it's never going to be that.
If you want consecration then use that.
Lightning surge is a different ability. It's not solar and it doesn't have access to ignitions. Necrotic also isn't just for lightning surge as on other melees like arcane needle or if you want to pair it with weapons of sorrow it has a lot more uses and is just a straight up upgrade to your ability damage overall.

It's never going to be a damage powerhouse even with buffs. It does do damage yes but it is a melee purely for spreading effects like jolt and poison when used with necrotic. Not for spamming constantly against big targets you could easily just get rid of with a heavy weapon.

Use it to trigger devour, poison, effects related to jolt and to get bolt charge or amplified.

[jade lance]

It’s a playable voice file for me now

And I’m still a mobile girlie

[zinc pewter]

It's an add clear melee ability, although it doesn't nuke champs or other high health enemies it essentially plays the same. I don't use weapons of Sorrow, I've used necrotic myself with the melee and came to my own conclusion that it just isn't good when the targets in the area all die and can't spread poison between each other and doesn't allow uptime to keep me zipping between groups of enemies

[agile ravine]

i'd be using syntho assass if i had it

plays into the "weaker consecration" part by giving you actual survivability when casting

[frail locust]

I just use it differently. I don't spam it and instead just 1 lightning surge to start the chain is more than enough and while it's doing its job i'll just focus on something else with weapons. It just adds a lot more radius and some extra damage to it through DOT damage.

[agile ravine]

plus more damage is always nice

but i don't have it

so right now im bumming around with karnstein

[frail locust]

Synthos and necrotic are both damage increases. just different use cases.

[agile ravine]

syntho is better since its main use is add clear and you don't wanna have the orange bars scoot by with a tiny bit of hp left

[frail locust]

They won't if the poison procs jolt which it will

[agile ravine]

syntho adds immediate damage, all necrotic does is a tiny bit of dot which isn't helpful for a "run in and try to hit everything" build

cause if they just shoot you before the poison really hurts them then there's not a whole lot you can do

with syntho something is guaranteed to die immediately which will proc the assass invis

[frail locust]

That DOT is more than enough to kill any red bar and some orange bars as i said since they'll have jolt on them

[agile ravine]

does necrotic poison proc ass cowl

[frail locust]

No

[agile ravine]

so yeah

i prefer syntho

[frail locust]

Why not both

[agile ravine]

that's not very slugger of you

it's my way or you get banned forever

i can't even remember where the slugger thing started

give me a minute

[frail locust]

Idk i just like my poison that stacks with jolt or unravel if i use arcane needle. It's a sizeable amount of chip damage that's enough to trigger jolt and unravel and that all adds up overtime.

And anyway

If you want a strong melee just use titan

The literal melee class

[zinc pewter]

scout tf2 iirc

[agile ravine]

he never says "swing and a miss"

[frail locust]

The bots from sonic boom

[agile ravine]

slugger is just basic baseball stuff but why did that person use it in destiny talk

i must investigate

[surreal cradle]

do you think they will ever bother to chance it?

[drifting plaza]

Do you mean the description?

Because don't you get it from expert zero hour nowadays

[bronze haven]

Yeah that's prob what he means

[surreal cradle]

(she) yeh that's what I mean

[nimble comet]

i just need the ornament for the helm and silver blue knight finished

[zinc pewter]

wait a minute 💀

[light walrus]

man i sure do wish it was tuesday

[zinc pewter]

@nimble merlin one of his videos was actually pinned

[nimble merlin]

strandshotmy beloved

song of ir yur btw

[austere sage]

2 million damage, very impressive
now tell me how long it takes to reach that number.

[zinc pewter]

top comment for that same video

[surreal cradle]

Voltshot on a mg sounds kinda weird

[zinc pewter]

it is

slow asf reload

[surreal cradle]

Yeah exactly

[austere sage]

an iota of rationality, shattered by overeestimation of tlord

[surreal cradle]

Why on earth would you want to reload your mg after like one bullet just to shoot once and reload it again

[austere sage]

Firing your MG like a 16th century musket is fucking vile

[surreal cradle]

Exactlyy

[zinc pewter]

half a season of div bug ruined dps

a week or 2 of volatile retrofit and people STILL think its good 2-3 years later

[jade whale]

I wouldn't expect any intelligence from destiny 2 yt shorts commenters

[zinc pewter]

ofc not

other than Purechill commenters

[jade whale]

Idk who that is

[nimble merlin]

whys there jsut

reactions of people

MUSCULARJONGO??

[zinc pewter]

yea

[zinc pewter]

pvp youtuber whos just bad at the game and makes hilariously fake reactions

commenters constantly shit talk him its funny

[jade whale]

Ah

[umbral rock]

W level?

[alpine bronze]

Oh dear

[trail lagoon]

@frank osprey Other heresy set

[frank osprey]

O shit that looks sick

[trail lagoon]

Destiny 1 Age of Triumph VOG armor

[frank osprey]

Bro that does NOT look like it came from vog

[austere sage]

Ip grabber

[trail lagoon]

It was animated and also some pieces moved

[trail lagoon]

for comparison

left is the original one

[graceful violet]

age of triumph is the one we got in d2

[trail lagoon]

also old trials of the nine armor

[sand ginkgo]

Ngl I don't like the warlock set

[jade whale]

face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth

[agile ravine]

Light permanently cyan

[solemn estuary]

Give

[graceful violet]

: :

[plush breach]

yipee

[plush breach]

bro why is blind well so dead

i want some of the newer guns that where reworked

[zinc pewter]

None are worth

[plush breach]

i really dont care

i still want them

mostly the shotgun

i already have a good roll of waking vigil

[viral saddle]

Elaborate on good

[plush breach]

its fun

140

voltshot rapid hit

i find it enjoyable

i dont care about the meta for this game

[half bear]

use highcal, it staggers enemies

[plush breach]

noted

ive only been using ricochette for the stability

[half bear]

swap to smallbore, range is useless in pve, and full bore takes away handling and stab

[plush breach]

ye i jsut did

next on my list is the shotgun

its the only one that looks like that slim model that isent pin point slug

[half bear]

its pretty ok for pvp, keep any quickdraw snap roll you get

and since you dont care for meta frames, lead from gold 12p probably best pve roll

[dapper finch]

This joke is about 4 years too late

"Joke" since it really isn't funny, even back then

[dapper finch]

Perfect

[sharp sand]

No it still applies. Since the game is still feeling the effects of it.
-new light

[dapper finch]

New Light was bad before sunsetting

[sharp sand]

Its worse now

What do you mean?

At least new players had something

[dapper finch]

🍵

[sharp sand]

Honestly they should give back the content most of use paid for.

[clever pine]

that requires work that many aren't willing to pay for

[zinc pewter]

what!! but i want Curse of Osiris back NOW!!

most of the content that got sunset, sucked anyway

[mystic saddle]

I WANT TO GO ON TITAN FOR ABSOLUTE NO REASON AT ALL

GIBE IT BACK

[zinc pewter]

only stuff people want back is leviathan

[sharp sand]

They weren't willing to do that back then either. Look at the game now

[zinc pewter]

its far better

[clever pine]

so they're not going to do it lol

[wise flare]

@grim ridge

[zinc pewter]

prismatic, subclass 3.0

armor reworks

[clever pine]

no more most rewarding public event yet

[dapper finch]

You say old new light was better? I joined this game and had to get a "quick" hour-long rundown of what my basic abilities did from people who had been playing since D1 and I was STILL lost

[sharp sand]

No but they are always going for the cheapest option

[dapper finch]

Always?

Prove it.

[clever pine]

people are NOT going to pay for d2 vanilla stuff, bro

it's not a sound time or money investment for them to make

[sharp sand]

We already did paid for it. They removed it. This is a nothing burger

[clever pine]

and you won't pay for them to put more work into it, be real

[zinc pewter]

red war was made f2p for a whole year afaik

and the base game was $70

[dapper finch]

Longer, since it was F2P for the entirety of Shadowkeep and it got extended by about 3 months

[clever pine]

it's not content they refuse to put back in just because, it's content that's outdated and that they need to update for it to work on the current version of their engine

that's work, and work costs money

money that people will not pay

[zinc pewter]

werent CoO and Warmind both f2p aswell for that duration

[dapper finch]

That's like asking Dice to "just add Battlefield 4" to new Battlefield games because both run Frostbite

[sharp sand]

And most games update thier older content to work with the new stuff

[zinc pewter]

content that was outdated and had low playtime

low playtime/player counts

[clever pine]

yeah but guess what, nobody was playing the content that was sunset, so it wasn't worth the time and money to update

[dapper finch]

Yeppers, played all of it and started ugly-crying at how disappointing it was compared to Forsaken and Shadowmid

[zinc pewter]

midsaken

genuinely an overrated expansion

[sharp sand]

I take it you don't understand the fact that doesn't excuse it.

[clever pine]

[zinc pewter]

like yea it saved the game with its changes and such

but the campaign was so boring

[dapper finch]

Yes but I had no standards when I played it

So it was alright to me, I've since played better story games though

[clever pine]

big part of the epic burgersauce was that it came after d2 vanilla AND CoO AND warmind, triple mid followed by okayish dlc

it's like witch queen coming after shadowkeep and beyond light

[dapper finch]

When you live with 3/10 for a year, a 5/10 seems like a godsend

Okay but WQ was a solid 7.5/10

[clever pine]

maybe

[dapper finch]

I'd maybe drop it to a 7 if you consider how garbage Void 3.0 is compared to other 3.0s

[clever pine]

i don't consider the 3.0 subclasses part of witch queen

[viral saddle]

Let's not try to fool ourselves tbh

[zinc pewter]

yea the artifacts promoted that, but they were all released at the same time as, not part of the expansions/seasons

[viral saddle]

At the time Forsaken was actually goated and so was WQ

[clever pine]

however, risen, haunted and plunder kinda sucked doodooass, Seraph carried

i am NOT AT ALL biased at all

[dapper finch]

Oh we talking the whole content year not just the campaign

[clever pine]

no i am

felt like it

[viral saddle]

Haunted was decent enough, better than Risen and Plunder at the very least

Holy fuck I hated Plunder

[clever pine]

ketchcrash cleared the derelict leviathan public event

[zinc pewter]

plunder story was very clearly meant as a "go be funny pirates"

[clever pine]

and also haunted's insanely predictable "uh-oh it didn't work right away, come back in a week" even though it made sense for the story

[viral saddle]

I didn't like Ketchcrash but having the Leviathan back as a semi patrol space was fun

[dapper finch]

If we're talking just the expansion, its a 7.5/10 losing points for having a garbage "Blind Well" style activity, having an extremely convoluted crafting system that had to be dumbed down twice, and the annoying lack of Lucent Hive outside of the campaign (and Risen)

[viral saddle]

Would've worked perfectly in the current structure

[clever pine]

oh for sure

[viral saddle]

1 act per character

[viral saddle]

Wellspring was fun enough, especially seeing most didn't need nor want to overplay it.
Crafting system had its issues but much rather have them make changes than not having made it at all or scrap it after 1 season
And come on, you know damn well why the Lucent Hive weren't everywhere, because the game simply doesn't work that way

[clever pine]

there's still red legion everywhere 😔

[viral saddle]

If we were to get a D3 (super unlikely) then I'd love for them to explore changing the areas we already have for the current events rather than only just adding the new destinations and leaving them in the dust after that cough Neomuna cough

[dapper finch]

Yeah but with how much they hyped up the BL engine changes, I'd expect them to do something with it like the weather and changing enemies in an area after story beats

[clever pine]

what if they didn't try to make patrol enemies weirdly tanky for no reason

[viral saddle]

Was only Neomuna tbh

Pale Heart didn't have any issues like that

[clever pine]

yeah maybe the new (at the time) destination sucking to be in would make people not like it

i choose to blame it all on Datto

[viral saddle]

I am however so excited for the new destination

Roguelike/Metroidvania iirc they said they were aiming for

[dapper finch]

They said the same buzzwords for Kell's Fall and its still linear as hell

[clever pine]

however this means the story can't have anything interesting happen in those parts since that's the classic fate of that "do whatever whenever" system

[viral saddle]

Nah I absolutely disagree with that

[clever pine]

if anything happens in one "quest", it'll be forgotten about in the other "quests" because what if you do them in another order

unless there's a larger uniting quest after those that requires them done

[viral saddle]

There can still be missions that need doing but don't need to be in the same order

There's so many games that make this concept work

And when it does, it makes for a phenomenal game

[clever pine]

we'll see ✋ 🤚

hopefully they pull it off

[dusk crater]

Despite everything wrong with plunder, ketchcrash was so fucking good

[clever pine]

i don't hold it to such high regards but it was nice after haunted's public event outstayed its welcome

[zinc pewter]

yea haunted was slop

idk how people think its better than Plunder

[dusk crater]

I remember there was a guy in here that thought haunted was one of the best seasons ever

[half bear]

my haunted farm consisted of reloading the area till i found people at boss or just before

[dusk crater]

Those dumbass secret events for the title were such a slog

[half bear]

i just got those done overtime during the opulent key farm

chest farming ❤️

[zinc pewter]

same 😭

nearing the end of the season i just did that

i wonder if i still have my stats from Haunted

[viral saddle]

Can we agree tho that Deep was the worst season out of the last 2 years of seasons?

[half bear]

is that the fishing season

[clever pine]

defiance

[viral saddle]

Yes

[half bear]

then youre wrong

[clever pine]

fishing >>>>>>

[viral saddle]

Fishing was the only positive

[half bear]

all it needed

[clever pine]

i think Deep was the last time i truly enjoyed the game

might be biased

[viral saddle]

Not even TFS? Be so fr

[clever pine]

TFS kinda snooze but the end was nice

"urgh guardian look for your fireteam for 6 missions"

[dusk crater]

Real

I really enjoyed tfs but most of that campaign felt like the intro

It shined best in its post game content, since thats where all the actual tfs story was

[clever pine]

https://tenor.com/view/slenderman-glitch-horror-gif-16936169

"find my 6 ghosts"

[alpine bronze]

White
Bald
Really tall
Messed up point of view

That settles it
The witness is slenderman

[clever pine]

find my shape

[alpine bronze]

Almost finalized

[clever pine]

i'm missing my 8 pages to finalize the shape bro, find my pages

[alpine bronze]

Naur

[zinc pewter]

find my shapes

WAIT

THATS WHAT VERITY IS

[clever pine]

whoa

[zinc pewter]

:ihitchamp:

[clever pine]

big if true

[zinc pewter]

😔

[gentle sable]

the witness might be slenderman

[agile ravine]

Walter White

[alpine bronze]

He’s short

[dapper finch]

Waltuh, hit the gym to get taller, Waltuh

[clever pine]

...it goes in the square hole

[sharp sand]

It does

Why square is the final shape

[alpine bronze]

Vex

[sharp sand]

https://tenor.com/view/saint-xiv-punch-vex-season-of-the-dawn-destiny2-gif-15723442

[alpine bronze]

The final (first) punch

[sharp sand]

The true path

If you didn't punch, you are doing it wrong

[mystic saddle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/691657211285471255/994754537179066488/togif.gif

[main dirge]

Glaiving rn

[soft shore]

Honestly tho I had a lot of fun esp because I was sick and injured so all I did was play deep dives the entire day

[fluid hull]

Deep was alright

[fluid hull]

https://tenor.com/view/glaive-creature-gif-6256540799179468664

[rotund python]

revenant

[limpid hearth]

whats with this season of the deep hate, man

[rotund python]

those stats are beautiful

[drifting plaza]

I liked deep dive tho

Sloane is coming back in heresy anyway

[limpid hearth]

my only complaint about season of the deep was salvage and it's add density

it was like a handful of hive every few minutes

[drifting plaza]

Oh yeah salvage was major snooze

[limpid hearth]

deep dive was pretty fun

as bad as the weapon itself was, wicked's mission was fun

[gentle sable]

that's shrimply not true

it had fishing

and Ahsa

long girl in the soup

[mystic saddle]

theres actually deep enjoyers?

sus

[clever pine]

watch out guardian xivu is really strong and her wrathborn guardian watch out

[rotund python]

i dont see many revenant enjoyers

[clever pine]

where are the Risen enjoyers

[gentle sable]

risen was

alright

i guess

[rotund python]

splicer

peak

[soft shore]

yes sir

My fav season ever was haunted

[clever pine]

i wasn't even there for splicer new light

[soft shore]

real ong same

[rotund python]

[clever pine]

so real

[rotund python]

splicer was peak

and lost

[clever pine]

i was there for the end of lost, just long enough to not know anything about seasons and miss out on its title

[soft shore]

I joined in lost

yo same