#❓destiny-questions

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hollow oak
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its why I hate the pinnacle system. a misson thats like 5 times longer than a solo mission, for legit the same amount of loot

high lily
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solo ops only drop 1 piece of loot with a majority of pinnacle ops dropping 3

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only ones that drop less are Whisper, and the dungeon encounters

hollow oak
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you know that green icon on missions? that says "bonus loot"

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that should be the fuckin default

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for pinnacles

high lily
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be faster then

hollow oak
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mm yes. be faster than legit making 0 mistakes

high lily
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you can make mistakes and still get a decent time

hollow oak
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as if it would mean anything in there

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id have more luck on a damn reddit

fathom marten
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If you want to actually complain, make a forum post on bungie.net 🙂 If you have a question, you're welcome to ask it here

hollow oak
fathom marten
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Oh I am sure they do. Whether or not they decide to actually act on it is a separate thing

hollow oak
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idk. I have a suspicion they cant read

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at least the higher ups

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if devs got to I bet they would make the game amazing

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but whatever.

fathom marten
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Speaking of llamas, Jongo, what's the Refurbished roll again?

high lily
fathom marten
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🫡 aye aye, cap'n

craggy grail
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how to get plug one

tulip oar
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Farm the Nightfall and get lucky, have good luck with Xur's engram, or wait for Xur to sell one

craggy grail
tulip oar
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No, Nightfalls have a chance of giving all former NF weapons

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IIRC it's weighted to prioritize ones you haven't gotten before until you've completed the set, and then it's just pure RNG

honest charm
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whats the fastest regening super for void hunter?

brave canyon
copper apex
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What’s code centipede mean

solar jasperBOT
woven bay
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so it's been a hot minute since i've been playing often

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so like

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what do tier 5s actually do?

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just better perks and stats?

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also wtf is going on with the martlet? That pulse has been mulching me in crucible

torn flame
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How do you do a perfect recall with melas panoplia?

glad crag
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And look for a flash

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It’ll pop into the air

torn flame
green granite
tulip oar
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World tab

brave canyon
# woven bay what do tier 5s actually do?

I’m gonna elaborate more because I was in the middle of something when I sent the first message. All T5 armor will roll with a maximum stat roll of 75. 30 of which will be in the primary stat of the armor (Gunner=Weapons, Paragon=Super, etc.) the secondary stat of the armor will have 25 stat points (Gunner=Grenade, Paragon=Melee, etc.) then a tertiary stat at random with 20 stat points. On T5 armor only, there is an additional slot for a +5 stat bonus to a random stat that will subtract 5 from another stat. On top of that, a fully masterworked T5 armor piece will have 11 energy compared to exotics and previous legendary armor having only 10. For weapons, a T5 weapon will have 3 perks in their 3 & 4 columns, and everything included barrels, mags, orgin perks will be enhanced (provides additional benefits).

frozen siren
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Do Magnetic Grenades not count as "Attached Grenades" for the purpose of the attached grenade bounty?

frozen siren
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I see my mistake. I was using axion bolts lmao

rigid whale
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is graviton forfeit bugged in the edz vanguard alert ? it doesnt work sometimes

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or is it like ping issues ?

midnight hare
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I havnt played in like a year and a half ish, did they make stasis titan good yet in pve

turbid sorrel
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yea

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best its ever been probably

midnight hare
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Holy peak?? What exotics are good for it and please don't say that silly chest piece for the ice barricade

turbid sorrel
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nah synthoceps

midnight hare
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Aw man

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Like I figured but bummer

glad crag
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Severance Enclosure increases the explosions of Howl

pearl plinth
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icefall makes you functionally immortal

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not a good option for damage but it's niche

glad crag
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Was a lifesaver during Ultimatum Spire

storm parcel
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Does this mean I can wear cosmetics from another class?
Or am I missunderstanding what it means by Any Class

sudden egret
unreal drum
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What’s the best titan build for raid DPS, PKs?

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Obviously it’s boss dependent but

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As a general build

turbid sorrel
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can never go wrong with cuirass

brave canyon
craggy grail
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are radiant dance machines good with dmt

forest dagger
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Wha crucible weapons are the best I got a t5: marlet, riptide, astral horizon. I know rolls matter more too I’ll post the gun in #💎shard-it-keep-it if it’s good generally

oak silo
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What's the best way to farm the VS Gravitic arrest (fusion rifle from Vesper's Host) I do not have a full clear, dont have icebreaker, and havent gotten it before

sudden egret
sudden egret
sudden egret
forest dagger
sudden egret
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Heat weapons feel op in PvP

boreal patio
forest dagger
boreal patio
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ive dismantled all of mine

sudden egret
sudden egret
solar jasperBOT
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forest dagger
craggy sable
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what has a higher base damage on prismatic warlock without any buffs, nova bomb or needlestorm?

forest dagger
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Needlestorm I think

craggy sable
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ty bro ❤️

oak silo
torn flame
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Is there any way to get techsec still? Or literally any of the previous 3.0 armors?

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I have it but I want better rolls gng

pearl plinth
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Hawthorne

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is your only choice right now

torn flame
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Also what’s the point of sweet buisness’s explosive rounds gng

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besides a bit more dps

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like does it have any synergy or?

pearl plinth
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what's the point of sweet business in general

torn flame
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machine gun primary

torn flame
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I remember when they gave it the explosive rounds buff it felt so random?

pearl plinth
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not that I know of

torn flame
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alr so pointless

waxen ibex
torn flame
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so what if it shoots tiny explosions

waxen ibex
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it used to literally just be a gun with a big mag

torn flame
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they’re too small to do anything, can’t synergise with anything

waxen ibex
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did nothing else

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i dont get your complaint

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so what if cerberus+1 shoots 4 bullets at once

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the point of exotics is they have quirks

torn flame
# waxen ibex i dont get your complaint

cuz it seems like it’s just a small dmg buff, the explosions don’t actually add anything beneficial, they’re too small to do any area dmg rlly, and don’t synergise with anything

waxen ibex
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ok but

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why does that matter

torn flame
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that’s my point

waxen ibex
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the explosions are just a quirk of the gun

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why does an exotic have to synergize

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explosive payload isn't meant for aoe it's meant for ignoring damage falloff and shifting damage towards bodyshots

torn flame
waxen ibex
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ok but like

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do you have any joy in your life

torn flame
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ye but it’s dumb to add that

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gng bungies brain cells are focused on disguised damage buffs

waxen ibex
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yeah they should have just made cerberus +1 an auto rifle that does a bit more damage per shot they went out of their way to add extra barrels :(

waxen ibex
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no

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it's literally not

torn flame
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it is

waxen ibex
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why am i arguing with you on this i really dont care

torn flame
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idk

waxen ibex
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just dont use the gun

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i dont care man

torn flame
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no

waxen ibex
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you're asking a question that needs no answer

torn flame
torn flame
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now it’s stupid ferropotent

pearl plinth
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oh well

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wait until they implement a way to get it I guess

torn flame
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ye

turbid sorrel
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no

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its iron sight is bit weird

split aspen
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what class is kinda jack of all trades. Can deal with big groups of ads, deal good boss damage and has pretty good uptime to not just be left behind and fall off. Thinking of carrying GM content or 5 feat raids

junior frost
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Could I get away with praxic blade + song of flame on dregen sere while solo or should I just use range?

daring coral
daring coral
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I CANT BREAK HIS IMMUNITY

dusky leaf
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Do I just grind fire and ice mission for uncivil discourse?

daring coral
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damn bungie, lost the flawless

loud lotus
turbid sorrel
dusky leaf
violet prairie
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Is 8ft away from a 55in too far?

little pewter
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I don't think imperial measurements are used in destiny

loud lotus
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Is felwinter's helm not working with grapple melee a bug or is bungie nerfing warlocks for no reason?

daring coral
twin peak
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maybe their distance from a tv?

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depends on eyesight and position

forest parrot
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Hi need a new clan the last one kicked me 😩

little pewter
daring coral
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reconnecting count as rejoining?

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Im running for solo triumph

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WOW SO THANKFUL GOT WEASELED

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I aint rerun ts again

little pewter
chilly spade
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which is better for barrow, resoultion or ambition

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or is it mainly choose ad clear or dps

tidal merlin
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Fastest way to get prospector catalyst? Nightfall is getting old.
Thinking of master sectors.

storm parcel
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Whats the difference between the red and blue engrams?

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They just say Fireteam Op's gear

little pewter
storm parcel
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Typo

little pewter
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ah

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tiers

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blue is tier 4 gear

jaunty kernel
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whats best way to level up season except weekly objectives?

storm parcel
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I haven't played in 5 years so how to tiers work? I know that the weapons drop with little stars but I don't really know what they do

pearl plinth
little pewter
pearl plinth
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at tier 5, armour has 11 energy, 75 total stats and a tuning slot

storm parcel
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So what I'm hearing is your really just wanting teir 5

pearl plinth
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yeah

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it's a natural progression

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the conquests just give fixed tiers but you'll be getting tier 5 gear from literally anything else by ~470 power

storm parcel
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Ah, fair. I'm still trying to work my way back up. It's a bit of a learning curve since back when I played the activity just said "Pinicale reward avaible" to denote it would upgrade you

little pewter
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especially if its been 5 years

pearl plinth
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the game is pretty much entirely different from 5 years ago

storm parcel
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Yeah, last I played was season of arrivals lol

little pewter
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armor perks have changed, tiers are new, origin traits are new, theres crafting for some guns, theres 3 new subclasses, every single subclass youve known has had a massive overhaul, not to mention the truckload more content (and some removed)

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and the lore, as expected, has been very good

storm parcel
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I've kept up with the lore at lest

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Byf's channel is great for that

jaunty kernel
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does melee stat affect hunter's navigator build with synthos and immost?

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if yes, is it good difference?

last blaze
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Guys when I use a combat flair does it like go away so I can’t use it again?

brave canyon
pastel zealot
jaunty kernel
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is ikelos sg 1.0.3 still obtainable, if so. how?

pastel zealot
jaunty kernel
brave canyon
jaunty kernel
brave canyon
jaunty kernel
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i just need a shotgun that pairs well for graple melee

brave canyon
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I’d have to imagine we’ll be getting a decent 1-2p shotgun with T5 system soon

pastel zealot
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the one from kepler rolls 12 punch!

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once they add a way to get weapons from eof portal, you can also get the mida macro tool

brave canyon
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I said decent CATGRIN

stone dome
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what is the fastest way to complete xurs xenology quest?

bleak shard
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Do you need to do a fresh run of epic dp for the quest to spawn all the puzzles and stuff?

sudden egret
sudden egret
tulip oar
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@coral bramble Run, don't walk, to your nearest nightfall.

coral bramble
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i forgot to visit ONE TIME

tulip oar
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It's the new one

coral bramble
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oh

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my

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GOD

tulip oar
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Reset was 4 minutes ago. 🙂

coral bramble
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you’re an absolute legend, thank you for showing me🙂‍↕️🙂‍↔️🥹🫂

oak silo
sudden egret
# oak silo could you help me figure out how? if there is a video or smth

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▶ Play video
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then dunk 3 balls in the maze and backtrack to first encounter and there should be loot

oak silo
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thank you

coral bramble
tulip oar
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Isn't it matchmade?

coral bramble
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but i’ll try in 20 min

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SUPER HYPED

sterile totem
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is it an ongoing bug or i dk for the birthplace of the vile, my fps drops like crazy for some reason ?

coral bramble
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yeah nobody there ):

honest charm
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how to farm precipal?

tulip oar
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Attune at Altar of Relativity, then farm the Kepler loot cave

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Ideally on Mythic, especially if you've gotten all the tier upgrades already

lethal canopy
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what weapon are worth crafting from salvation's edge?

glad crag
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But be aware that the upcoming Arms Week will negate the bow, since it will include the same god roll

honest charm
tulip oar
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IIRC it's from doing Fabled and then Mythic. The Upgrades & Exchange section of the Altar will tell you what it needs

drifting plinth
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350 for t4 from mythic

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450 for t5

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mythic kepler is the armor set(pain in the ass to do but worth it)

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fabled is grav spike catty stuff

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iirc

high lily
drifting plinth
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cause i genuinely do not care for the gun

high lily
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same, ive yet to get the rest of the catalyst pieces

drifting plinth
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i have like maybe 1 catalyst

high lily
# unreal drum Armor set?

armor sets have set bonuses now and the set from mythic kepler, (Aion Adapter) has one of the best set bonuses in the game

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specifically the 2 piece set bonus

fathom marten
unreal drum
high lily
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yes, rocket frame are some of the best weapons in the game currently

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and smoke jumper is unobtainable rn

unreal drum
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It’s still technically obtainable, and bungie has said they are bringing a way to obtain it easier

high lily
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its obtainable through Hawthorne i know, but that also includes almost every weapon from Reclamation, so you have almost no chance of getting it, let alone a good roll

dark mango
brave canyon
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Is accelerated assault on rocket pulse still bugged ?

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Like it takes your ammo or whatever it did

drifting plinth
brave canyon
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Rats I just got my god roll

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Vanguard determination for now ?

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I’m assuming

dark mango
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only lost 1 ammo

high lily
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you lose half a burst yea

boreal hill
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is there any way to get mint retrograde rn? i know its in the meta and i really want to get it but it hasn’t dropped for me yet T_T

tulip oar
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They'll be adding some way to get previous portal gear besides that in a future update.

boreal hill
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thanks for the help!!!!!!!

shadow echo
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Where can I find a support frame auto Rifle or support frame in general? (I'm Unsure what support frame is)

twin peak
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adamantite is up to xur and maybe banshee iirc

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cusp is from desert perpetual

shadow echo
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Thank you

drifting plinth
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oh, wait, also derealise in legends tab

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cause that drops heresy weps now

midnight hare
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Is the unbreakable aspect for void titan good?

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Or even prismatic?

brave canyon
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It’s not that good on either

glad crag
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It’s also too touchy. I could lightly touch my grenade button and it’ll start holding out the shield

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The blast is too weak too

midnight hare
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Damn that kinda sucks to hear but what would even buff the dmg? I been trying ursa and armamentarium but is there any like actual way to buff the dmg? Does it scale indefinitely with dmg it absorbs?

vocal thunder
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can you still get returned memory?

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THIS GAME SUCKS

midnight hare
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How would hoil interact with unbreakable

vocal thunder
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we’re gonna release all the best guns except they’re all gonna be in edge of fate the worst expansion in d2 history and you’re never getting them again

glad crag
midnight hare
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What's this one I'm missing?

visual wyvern
midnight hare
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Oh, do I need the new dlc for it or what? I have up to TFS I think

tulip oar
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You need TFS

visual wyvern
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You need tfs

midnight hare
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Then how does one get it? Is it even worth grabbing?

visual wyvern
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Read what fish is about to say or you can yt it if ur still confused

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Yes it’s worth it btw

tulip oar
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You need to do the Dual Destiny mission which involves doing a full clear of all 3 overthrows (if you haven't already), then another clear in each of them to kill the hidden Secret Keeper boss that spawns after a full overthrow is cleared. Dual Destiny requires 2 players, so you'll need to LFG if you don't already have someone you can grab to go in with you.

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The exotic class item pairs two weakened versions of pre-TFS exotic perks allowing for combinations like Heart of Inmost Light and Star-Eater Scales (yes some perks are cross-class), Khepri's Horn + Hoarfrost-Z, etc.

sterile totem
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i am gonna ask a stupid question is there a way to farm thunderlord catalyst

midnight hare
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Does this unlock after the campaign?

tulip oar
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You just need the initial missions done.

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You don't need the full quest completed

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Also, the class item only works with Prismatic

visual wyvern
midnight hare
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You happen to know when? I'm on step 16 "the message part 1"

sterile totem
tulip oar
tulip oar
cerulean sail
tulip oar
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Just gotta do the work

visual wyvern
midnight hare
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And where is it then to start up?

tulip oar
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Read my earlier message

sterile totem
solar jasperBOT
visual wyvern
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I think the private match farm still works

true yarrow
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how much hp realistically is needed for pvp?

visual wyvern
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Unless it doesn’t

visual wyvern
true yarrow
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stat wise

visual wyvern
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Just not over 200

true yarrow
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yeah, but as far i can see, its just flinch resis?

visual wyvern
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No

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It’s shield hp and regen

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Shield doesn’t matter as much but regen is important

drifting plinth
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sooo

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like

sterile totem
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damn so thunderlord catalyst did appear in xur before ?

visual wyvern
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Yeah but pretty much every world catalyst does

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You’re better off doing the activities for it

sterile totem
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low level solo ops would work right ?

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since the spreadsheet says any ops

visual wyvern
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As far as I’m aware you can load into a private crucible match that finishes in like 15 seconds and farm that way too

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Though it’ll be rng which catalysts you get

sterile totem
visual wyvern
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No

sterile totem
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damn ok

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ill try then tmr lul

unreal drum
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If I’ve done the renegades campaign on my hunter and bought the +1 tier upgrade would that apply to my titan while playing through the campaign

azure prism
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What's epic koregos challenge? I can't find it anywhere

sudden egret
azure prism
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ah ok

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easy

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ty

wraith pumice
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I'm new on Hunter, does Ascension proc Dynamo and Powerful Attraction? I found conflicting info online

thorny bronze
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am I just softlocked atp?

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equipment locked so I cant switch to a GL for jumps

tulip oar
thorny bronze
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tried

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not doable

tulip oar
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It absolutely is

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I've never used a GL to make that jump before

thorny bronze
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there was js no way to get there??

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I fell down on one of the dead looking trees, right by the deathbox

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couldnt get back up

tulip oar
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Ah, that explains the weird angle. If you can try getting up to here, maybe?

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Otherwise yeah, don't land in weird spots next time

thorny bronze
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yeah I js thought "hey I'll fal on this thing and try to get back up"

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most unfortunate

thorny bronze
coral bramble
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its done people, destiny 2 at 100%. what a ride. it would be too many to faithfully remember and write down each name, but i want to thank everybody who helped me on this journey, through my countless questions in this channel. what a lovely and helpful community! special thanks to @tulip oar for reminding me of that nightfall today, and for all the help throughout. now it is time for me to move on. i wish you people all the best, and so much fun with this game. destiny was amongst my first 4 games that i bought simultaneously back in 2015 when i got my ps4, and it was one big, beautiful journey. destiny 1 will forever be peak, but throughout the time, especially now, i truly got to appreciate destiny 2 as well. who knows, maybe i'll be back for destiny 3 or another trophy dlc ;- )

drifting plinth
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if you want true 100%

glad crag
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Dude really treated Destiny 2 like a Lego game. Getting 100% and then quitting

drifting plinth
cerulean sail
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just achievements

high lily
coral bramble
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they do

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complete last wish

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ive played way past just the trophies, but its time to move on now to other games

glad crag
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You’ll be back

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Time will tell

copper apex
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Would chromatic fire work with praxis blade

sudden egret
tidal merlin
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Renegades question.
What do you get for bribing the info broker in the cantina?
I got a location but not sure what to look for or what I'll get extra for going there.

steel cliff
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ive completed the final shape campaign, but i didnt get the quests to unlock the rest of the abilitys, does anyone know how to fix it ?

cerulean sail
copper apex
sudden egret
copper apex
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I’m confused in it why use chromatic when you us praxis cords

cerulean sail
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why use chromatic at all is the better question

steel cliff
cerulean sail
broken forge
midnight hare
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What does the darci catalyst do?

fathom marten
sacred stone
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Do warlock buddies count as grenades? like hellion, void buddy, arc soul? like would the armor perk bolstering detonation proc if the buddy did damage? and do the buddies scale up in any sort of way if we build more into grenade stat?

fathom marten
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They do [count as grenades]

sacred stone
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thank you

craggy grail
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do all tier 5 armors have 75 stat points

cerulean sail
woven bay
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is it just me or is the jump from gold 3 to 2 like, ridiculous?

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im havin a rough ass time over here

tidal merlin
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What are the ways to lose a vault card in renegades?
I acquired adamant but when I checked my wallet its missing.
The exfil was a success and I didnt use the card yet.

hybrid yacht
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Can I still get edge of fate trials weapons?

loud lotus
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is there a way to avoid rift cancelling when swapping in dps? Even if I'm careful to wait for the rift animation to end so I can swap, it sstill expends all rift energy and doesn't give me a rift.

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although it's frequency is inconsistent

copper apex
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whats the dr from smoke jumper

forest dagger
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So what do you get for completing the trials of Osiris pass

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The 7 wins one. I didn’t do the lighthouse one because you have to go 5 for 5 right?

woven tree
fathom marten
forest dagger
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Oh okay

forest dagger
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Where do you open trials of Osiris engrams

high lily
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Saint-14 in the tower

forest dagger
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Ah I’m dumb I thought horns was the crucible guy

sudden egret
forest dagger
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I don’t see my engrams anywhere

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I have at least 4

bitter osprey
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do the crystals spawned from a howl of the storm melee count as a melee or are they just regular crystals

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if that makes sense

high lily
sudden egret
forest dagger
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Ok final verdict, the marlet is better than all or nothing in PvP

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And I’m gonna lock that in as my final answer

forest dagger
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Is headseeker or firefly better for og

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Pvp*

sudden egret
sudden egret
drowsy oyster
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If someone quits a double cross, how come I don’t get credit for a successful invasion? That seems wrong.

high lily
sudden egret
hexed nexus
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are expert lost sectors the best way to obtain new exotic armor? some of the ones i want say “must be unlocked in collections in order to purchase” at rahool

fathom marten
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Lost Sectors no longer directly give armor pieces but they are still the best way to farm exotic engrams to use to purchase armor at Rahool

hexed nexus
high lily
fathom marten
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Rahool has multiple pages. Check his second one. He will sell it to you directly so long as you have an Exotic Engram and Exotic Cipher.

hexed nexus
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on the second page they say must unlock in collections first

sudden egret
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To the right

fickle saddle
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Is it possible to complete the transversal part of kings fall with only 3 people

sudden egret
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to get past the barrier

fickle saddle
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But the big wall on the barrier appears the moment you step off the plate

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do you like have to get there super early or something

sudden egret
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look for a trio guide on how to get past it

fickle saddle
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Alright will do

hexed nexus
cerulean sail
swift atlas
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What's the best way to farm ascendant shards?

sudden egret
willow hearth
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have bungie mentioned fixing contraverses yet?

chilly spade
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do i need to do all feats in equilibrium to get the never de-feated triumph

sudden egret
chilly spade
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man i dont wanna do cut throat trollge

sudden egret
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Challenges counts as 2

chilly spade
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i did a run with everything but cut throat

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didnt get the triumph

sudden egret
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Rip

brave canyon
#

You can do Harrow with Boots well and 2 pris locks but for Sere you need 2 people chunking and a song of flame

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Well it’s not an absolute necessity but it’s probably your best bet I think some people cleared with a lucky pants hunter but

cerulean tiger
#

Is the rite of the nine loot in the dares of eternity loot pool?

waxen ibex
#

dont even need the lp hunters, bonk hammer/heavy snipe do it too

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chunking just lets you one phase

cerulean tiger
fathom marten
#

Thanks Jongo

high lily
cerulean tiger
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Alright thanks

high lily
fathom marten
# cerulean tiger Alright thanks

The shiny versions are impossible. A worse quality of each weapon should still be obtainable from the three respective dungeons that were a part of Rite of the Nine. I do not know if the updated versions were added or not but it is not likely.

high lily
#

all versions of the Rite weapons are unobtainable

fathom marten
high lily
#

yea because those are the original dungeon weapons

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the rite ones specifically (which have different perk pools) dont drop anymore

lethal canopy
#

What can a well warlock use for witness dps?

sudden egret
lethal canopy
#

How about sleeper simulant?

waxen ibex
#

if your team is using it and you dont have renegades be the darci user

waxen ibex
true yarrow
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what light level is needed for the mobs in renegades sabotages etc to not show up as skulls?

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and how do i reset a priority contract to change to a different faction once i’ve completed it?

sterile totem
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Working in Edge of Fate. My old video got a lot of questions as to whether it still worked, so I thought i'd go try it myself, and see what was causing all the confusion. PvP catalysts are farmed from Private matches now, whilst the rest have been moved to strictly solo ops and fireteam ops, causing some people to still get catalysts from privat...

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waxen ibex
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Lawless frontier basically just doesn't consider power

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You're capped at 400 power or whatever in gm

true yarrow
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skill issue for me then i guess, my builds kinda suck

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using assassins cowl hunter and it takes like 3 melees to kill a red bar without combi blow

waxen ibex
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If you can't kill stuff with combination blow tempest strike stuff is really wrong

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Also late in run you should be spamming renegade abilities

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The healing station one just instantly gives you super and behemoth/the pike oneshot bosses

true yarrow
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does tempest stack combi blow?

brittle wing
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it does now i think yeah

true yarrow
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ill try it out

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thats fair i've just not been using renegade abilities and rawdogging them

turbid sorrel
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it does

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makes it exceptionally better

jaunty kernel
chilly spade
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its the hans solo handcannon from renagade

jaunty kernel
marsh whale
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how to get t5 lawless frontier drops ?

tidal merlin
harsh jackal
marsh whale
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how do people get the second origin trait for m17 fast talker ? i keep just getting the air cooled one

bitter hull
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Something like 5% afaik?

marsh whale
#

dayum

bitter hull
# marsh whale dayum

That being said, for the renegades weapons, iirc there's a weekly quest that you can do on a character for 3 shiny weapons (weapons that'll have the accelerated assault trait)

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And then for non-renegade weapons (the portal weapons), vanguard alerts have a guaranteed drop per week

river bolt
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Which pinnacle ops is able to be done solo without much pain? I am trying to reach the elite rank rn

violet prairie
little pewter
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i uh

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well i guess its fine, not really something we'd know.

drowsy oyster
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Trying to finish Necro catalyst. Is the essence drop RNG? Or do you get a bigger haul for your first run each week? Is it completely random? I’ve also seen some people say they can get 10 to drop in one run of the boss, is that also just RNG?

spare tusk
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If I remember right then the first run of the week you get an essence for sure and besides that its rng

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Dont quote me on that tho

waxen ibex
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Idk what you think a pinnacle op is supposed to be lol

waxen ibex
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You get one a week for your first crota kill guaranteed and one for a full clear of the raid, otherwise it's a chance on clearing encounters to get essence

tulip oar
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The full-clear ones are farmable, but it's debatable whether it's better to just farm a single encounter and hope for RNG or to do repeated full clears

true yarrow
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will i get flawless if i lose 2 games, dont reset passage, then win the next 7?

glad crag
#

No

true yarrow
#

that is big mf stinky

crisp elbow
#

is it possible to do solo equlibrium with all feats?

restive jungle
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How can I make make my crossbow stun unstops

drowsy oyster
#

To do the keycards, do I need to wait until the area in question is a Contested Territory?

restive mantle
#

I've completed the missions several times and it doesn't seem to count, why is that?

jolly quiver
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Is there a point to buying the Lightfall dungeon key? Is the loot current? Its the only dungeon I dont have, I guess.

glad crag
glad crag
glad crag
jolly quiver
steel sundial
fierce spear
fathom marten
drowsy oyster
#

Which of these is quicker to do? The tapes or the ghosts?

shadow venture
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probably the ghosts?

fathom marten
tropic rover
#

;stats

solar jasperBOT
#

Stats
Shown on the character screen, stats affect the following:
Weapons - 0-100: improved weapon handling/reload speed and damage against Minor and Elite combatants. 101-200: increases chance for ammo bricks to contain more ammo and increases damage against Minibosses and Bosses.
Health - 0-100: grants health on orb pickup and improves flinch resist. 101-200: shield regen starts faster and takes less time to recharge and inceases shield HP for PVE.
Class - 0-100: improved class ability regeneration speed and increased gains from external or scalar sources. 101-200: grants an overshield on class ability cast.
Grenade - 0-100: improved grenade regeneration speed and increased gains from external or scalar sources. 101-200: increases grenade damage.
Super - 0-100: improved super gains for damaging targets and increased gains from external or scalar sources. 101-200: increases super damage (well of radiance and ward of dawn have increased duration instead)
Melee - 0-100: improved melee regeneration speed and increased gains from external or scalar sources. 101-200: increases powered/unpowered/glaive melee damage.

tropic rover
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This is up to date now

candid remnant
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I wish to see how to get catalysts

solar jasperBOT
brave canyon
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You need to chunk tho so once that’s nerfed it’ll probably be impossible

drifting plinth
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so like

tight widget
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is there a purpose/reason to rank up any Tharsis syndicate beyond rank 5 on each?
Im 550 w/ +1, and to the best of my knowledge, Ive never received a T5 from redeeming Dark Matter Ingots.

drifting plinth
#

probably not possible to fix

crisp elbow
drifting plinth
brave canyon
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Once you get all the lightsaber crystals there’s not really a reason to play Lawless unless you’re chasing god rolls

crisp elbow
tulip oar
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I mean, they can at least fix the framerate component

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They've already solved that for incoming damage with the Scorn Raider shots

tight widget
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I just had realized, today isnt weekly reset 🙂

brave canyon
#

Nope it’s Monday

crisp elbow
# drifting plinth yes

i was trying to do the grenade thingie on all feats run but im not doing fuckall for damage

crisp elbow
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in a normal run his health is gone instantly

crisp elbow
drifting plinth
crisp elbow
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havent checked recently

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aight

drifting plinth
#

it works if you have specifically 50 or more

true yarrow
#

does uncivil discourse also 3 tap with 180 weapon stat in pvp?

drifting plinth
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it's a special

true yarrow
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oh shi i didnt see spec

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ty

crisp elbow
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thats in space doe

tulip oar
#

Yeah, that doesn't count

drifting plinth
crisp elbow
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where should i go to test

tulip oar
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Anything with actual gameplay

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The more enemies/effects the better

crisp elbow
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aight ima just go to blind well

drifting plinth
tulip oar
#

Hell, just turn on the FPS counter in-game and try Sere

drifting plinth
#

that's a good idea

tulip oar
#

EQ's final boss

crisp elbow
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aight

bitter hull
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For consistency

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Also worth taking into consideration that cutthroats power delta is higher than most pieces of content ingame

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Check your 'chunks' against videos of people doing chunks on cutthroat or contest

crisp elbow
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am i just not doing the chunking right

bitter hull
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Do you have a clip?

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It's always easier to see what you're missing/what's going wrong because as a friend put it

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'Every Contraverse Hold is personalised'

crisp elbow
lament summit
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at what point in lightfall can you reacquire the strand subclass on a character after deleting and then making a character

lament summit
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damn

bitter hull
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The general idea is that you want to get within hugging range of the boss and throw the made right down at the enemies feet

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Some people find jumping and throwing the HHSN as you're falling to make it more consistent

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Like you're trying to crit in Minecraft

gray crown
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can i still get festival fligh?

bitter hull
gray crown
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thank you tho

crisp elbow
gray crown
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how do i get 190 grenade and 100 super 😭

bitter hull
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I don't think these are chunks/full chunks

crisp elbow
bitter hull
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That aside, that looks normal then?

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Not large chunks but those are definitely chunks

crisp elbow
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i mean i got 179 in stats so when i get 200 i doubt the chunk would be any better just cuz of stats so im assuming its my technique

crisp elbow
bitter hull
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'every chunk is personalised' as much as it sounds like a joke is not a joke

tulip oar
gray crown
tulip oar
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Only the exotic class items have predefined archetypes

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You can get a Grenadier roll of Getaway Artist

gray crown
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maybe cuz i got it before eof

tulip oar
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Yes

crisp elbow
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also whats the fastest way to grind 5 star and pinnacle gear

gray crown
#
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im nowhere near the requirements

tulip oar
gray crown
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i just need 4 tier 5s and a grenadier g artist and im good

gray crown
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first i need to go to ikora for ironic sentry

tulip oar
gray crown
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and what activities do i do to get such armour

tulip oar
# crisp elbow high power

So then your two goals do not directly coexist. You need high power in order to get T5 gear. The way to gain power does not change in activity over the course of the grind in the post-EoF world. It just slows down. Choose portal activities with bonus rewards and ideally ones that also have a focus reward in your lowest highest-equippable slot. Get the highest grade possible. Rinse and repeat.

tulip oar
crisp elbow
tulip oar
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Then don't worry about hitting hte exact stats from the build. Make do with what you can

crisp elbow
gray crown
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what do i do as of now to level up, im currently doing the portal activities

tulip oar
gray crown
tulip oar
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If you have Renegades, you can also do Lawless Frontier in addition to the Portal

gray crown
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im guessing the lawless frontier abilites dont carry over from class to class?

tulip oar
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They do. They're just only usable inside of LF

gray crown
lean cobalt
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Hello everyone.
Does anyone know the date of the next arms week event?

gray crown
gray crown
tulip oar
gray crown
lean cobalt
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that is the AI answer which is incorrect

gray crown
lean cobalt
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im on the game right now but I dont see any arms week NPC or activities

tulip oar
gray crown
tulip oar
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...the three factions for Lawless Frontiers

gray crown
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is that a syndicate

glad crag
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3 syndicates

tulip oar
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So did you just close your eyes and ears when talking to the vendors in the side rooms during the campaign? I don't understand how you can have a campaign clear and have zero idea what I'm talking about.

glad crag
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Think gangs

fathom marten
glad crag
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A syndicate is an underworld term that basically means "gang" but it fits more for a Star Wars inspired narrative

tulip oar
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Bungie never gave a date/time for the next Arms Week

crisp elbow
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when a boss is weakened by void do they even take that much more damage? like is it significant

tulip oar
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The debuff is not different for enemy type

drifting plinth
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15% for most sources

crisp elbow
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just wanted to peep if i should get echo of undermining for this chunk build

drifting plinth
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30% for tractor cannon and maybe like 1 other thing and 35% for deadfall tether

drifting plinth
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without it chunking does not work

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like at all

crisp elbow
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wild

drifting plinth
#

i feel so fucking stupid for not asking if you're using undermining earlier

lean cobalt
fathom marten
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I don't know. I've not been a part of any Arms Week yet

stuck jacinth
#

Is the "Winged Victory" Holochip still obtainable?

drifting plinth
fathom marten
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Do you mean the ship?

sick spoke
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How do I unlock the hellion aspect?

pastel zealot
drifting plinth
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dont quite remember which one

sick spoke
#

I have to pay for the final shape right?

pastel zealot
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yeah

sick spoke
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Cheers thank you

fathom marten
# stuck jacinth Is the "Winged Victory" Holochip still obtainable?

If you mean the ship named "Winged Victory", it should be back during the next Guardian Games. If you are talking about an actual Holochip, nominally the only ones that will likely return are Aurora, Flutter By, Phosphor Ascent, and Terrordactyl as they are the ones linked to reoccuring events.

prisma fractal
#

Has the destiny 2 platinum trophy been fixed yet, visa-vis the challenges and nightfall trophies

gray crown
#

how do i get ascendant shards quick

fathom marten
gray crown
fathom marten
stuck jacinth
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What are the other 2 Grandmasters for the Conqueror's this season? Or do I just do any Grandmaster Conquest 4 times?

lethal canopy
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Suppose I have the armor set from salvation's edge and the only piece missing is the boots which drops from verity and the final boss and I haven't done verity can I still hey it by grinding the boss?

high lily
wintry bridge
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can anyone help me with the mission zero hour please as cant do it by myself and dont know where to go

fathom marten
wintry bridge
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amazing thank you

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private dm me

solar jasperBOT
glad viper
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What’s the fastest way to rank up syndicate vendors?

shadow venture
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do the priority contract every day and then while doing Lawless, try doing some of the regular contracts on the Grandmaster since it'll only take 1 to complete most of them

pastel zealot
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do your daily priority contracts and donate your dark matter ingots, the only other thing you can do to minmax xp gain is make sure youre switching syndicates daily as that gives you a bonus

wintry bridge
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could someone help me do the mission zero hour on hard difficulty as i need to turn on the first switches as one of my missions for my weapon?

solar jasperBOT
wintry bridge
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i dont have permissions for that chat

visual wyvern
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There's like 5 things there

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Ignore the renegade one if you dont have it and ignore the d2checkpoint cuz that's irrelevant to what you need

wintry bridge
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okay thank you

tight trellis
#

Guys in your opinion what’s the best arc secondary shoot to loot weapon?

visual wyvern
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By secondary you mean energy?

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The trace rifle i guess

waxen ibex
midnight hare
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Does a artifact work for champs work with other champ intrinsics to make it work for 2/3 champion types or does it just override it?

Darci In particular is good against overloads intrinsically and jolts, how would it work with anti barrier sniper artifact perk

split aspen
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is there a way to see T5 bonuses in d2 armor picker so I can pick 200 stat rolls?

turbid sorrel
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Yes

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Down the bottom where u can select piece focuses

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Hover n it’ll tell u pre dure

drifting plinth
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the only kind of intrinsic champ stun that works with artifact champ stuns is chill clip

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the intrinsic takes priority for exotics and stuff

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for legendaries, artifact takes priority over barrier stun from buffs

jolly quiver
#

The timer for Derealize is still bonkers?

waxen ibex
#

The difficulty you need to run it on to get the exotic and the catalysts has the timer doing literally nothing

jolly quiver
#

So I looked it up and saw it was bugged or something? Just trying to confirm its status

shadow echo
#

What item is need to unlock attunement for the Sage robes?

dark mango
waxen ibex
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Also keep in mind they don't expect you to solo every conquest

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The derealize timer shouldn't be that bad for the conquest

jolly quiver
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Gotcha. Okay. Thank you!

shadow echo
waxen ibex
shadow echo
waxen ibex
#

So you beat the shadow cere boss at the end of the quest?

shadow echo
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Yes

waxen ibex
#

Go back to the temple and you focus gear there

shadow echo
dark mango
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you need to have the robes drop from an encounter before attuning to it

shadow echo
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Okay thank you

waxen ibex
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I like how the error message says exactly what the issue is

visual wyvern
#

We gotta keep the economy up somehow

rustic dome
#

If I’m trying to get stats to drop higher in melee & weapon which ghost mod should I try to use ? Or is it just luck between gunner & brawler

tulip oar
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Go with Gunner since Health is doodoo in PVE

drifting plinth
#

^

rustic dome
#

Wasn’t sure if got Lucky with the T5 extra slot to minus health and add more to the other

hushed grove
#

will i probably regret buying these

echo marsh
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Buy them.

brave canyon
rustic dome
brave canyon
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I’d just go heavy into paragon

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Make sure you get a decent nade stat of like 70 or so

hard patio
#

For anyone here who has the emote, Im thinking of buying the reclamation season and was curious if the "zero-g gambol" emote actually looks cool in-game as it's the only item I'm buying it for lol.

rustic dome
hushed grove
brave canyon
#

You are gonna want to get your melee as close as you can or at 200 and you’re not gonna be able to get 200 melee and spec into high weapons

high lily
hushed grove
#

at least the runes match the chest

trail pendant
#

Does contraverse double weaken work on all grenades?

silent hill
#

Was there an arms week event this week?

tulip oar
#

No

south hinge
south hinge
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im not sure what benifit that would provide

to my understanding, the reason its used for contraverse chunking is because it makes the game do more calculations, resulting in more chunk damage

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it doesnt provide a stronger weaken or something like that

drifting plinth
#

it works on scatters and mag nades

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at least mainly those two

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mag nades best

trail pendant
trail pendant
south hinge
#

thats not something im familiar with, ill have to look into it

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the Data Compendium doesnt list a special interaction between contraverse and echo of undermining, but ill do some testing myself

drowsy oyster
#

Is there a timeline for what’s happening in D2 over the next few weeks/months somewhere? Seasonal events, IB, Call to Arms, release of remaining GMs so we aren’t limited to GR9, things like that?

tulip oar
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Nothing besides Shadow & Order's release (which should be when the remaining GMs show up)

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There'll be guardian games somewhere in the march-may window

drowsy oyster
#

And that’s sometime in March?

tulip oar
#

March 3rd

brave canyon
#

So for future reference I would expect to not be able to obtain the guardian rank objectives until the major update.

shut matrix
#

is FTF for equlibrium bugged? everyones only showing 3 feats, r they running 4 and the ftf just not showing it?

dark mango
shut matrix
dark mango
#

if they have challenges on its probably a 4 feat

shut matrix
#

ty

true yarrow
#

do you get a mercy on the flawless passage for trials?

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i lost a game on my 6th and got flawless still

tulip oar
#

No, but there's loss protection if you're facing a stack and aren't in one

true yarrow
#

does that include duo/trio?

tulip oar
#

I think as long as you're solo-queued and the other team isn't a trio of solos, you get loss protection

true yarrow
#

oh nice

south hinge
#

i iddnt test magnet grenade

south hinge
cloud topaz
#

does the mission welcome to the frontier crashes ur game ? because i tried to do it like 5 times and the game always crashes

fickle saddle
#

Do raid bosses have less health the less people are doing the raid?\

midnight hare
#

So is Darci ok at least? Like idk if there's any sniper DPS phases or if snipers are in rn

fathom marten
cloud topaz
#

but most likely is broccoli this happend back in edge of fate too

ornate halo
#

snipers in general are bad as always, only exception is the heavy one

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but even that is kinda gimmick i think

copper apex
#

How many days has the bp got

tulip oar
young lintel
#

trying to solo vespers host, what weapons do you all recommend for final boss?

timber frost
#

Will more of the Mass Effect armor be in the Bright Dust section tomorrow?

young lintel
dark mango
fathom marten
idle eagle
#

whats the best way to get ascendant shards

fathom marten
#

You can buy some from Rahool

twin cave
#

what mag would yall want on rocket pulse with trickle charge and acc assault?

twin cave
brave canyon
true yarrow
#

is the trials shader still bugged?

brave canyon
#

If I were you I would run blast dist over trickle charge tho

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If you have it

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Much better choice

high lily
deep fiber
fathom marten
#

Which shader is this?

twin cave
brave canyon
#

You don’t need trickle charge because of your acc assault and blast distributor legit gives your free +65 grenade stat which just makes arc soul/helion hit harder

twin cave
loud lotus
#

How many times do I need to complete master vox obscura to get all intrinsics?

brave canyon
twin cave
#

gotchya thnx

storm parcel
#

How do you set it to legendary mode? I'm trying to do this on the legendary mode with my brother

fathom marten
storm parcel
#

Which ones do?

fathom marten
#

Only The Witch Queen and all expansions released after it have Legendary difficulties

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Shadowkeep and Beyond Light do not

storm parcel
#

It won't let me change that either

fathom marten
#

It will when you launch it. Should take you to a giant red/blue split screen thing

storm parcel
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Ooh, okay. I thought I had to select it from here

fathom marten
#

Not for the first one

storm parcel
#

Interesting. Alright

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I've been holding off on doing them since I thought it would be fun to do it first time on legend with my brother

woven tree
#

its one of the top campaigns

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imo

craggy grail
#

which hand cannon perks are best for airborn effectiveness

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other than lone wolf

visual wyvern
#

Lone wolf just so happens to be a nice perk without it

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And I’d use heat rises for warlock (gives ae)

tidal merlin
#

Why do I keep seeing people try to sword skate with a lightsaber?
They're not getting any major distance either. They fail. Repeatedly.

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If you're gonna skate use an actual eager sword

fathom marten
#

You can skate with the Praxic Blade, it's just a different set of circumstances

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It is much tougher to do but still possible

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But if you can get it, you can essentially infinitely chain skates

visual wyvern
#

Ans the fact that you can proc it off of collision damage is game changing

high lily
visual wyvern
#

The fact you can use it with an eager edge is amazing

#

Hyperblade into a well/ground skate

fathom marten
#

Eager Edge just turns into a way to save yourself from skating too fast with Hyperblade

visual wyvern
#

Bungie prob gonna nuke it tho

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Take away the proc on environment damage

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I don’t think they released a new sword you can skate with since the eof update so they’re tryna make it obsolete obviously

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And this just destroys what they were trying to do

visual wyvern
#

I think vortex is still faster tho

fathom marten
#

Correct but it is a new sword

visual wyvern
#

That’s true

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But no one will use it over a vortex

near gulch
#

so just finishing legendary renegades campaign but theres sooo many weapons i want to collect but dont know where to begin! im playing my Warlock but usually play hunter (i know that doesnt mean much haha) but looking to see if theres like a general direction to start

fathom marten
near gulch
fathom marten
near gulch
#

ahh thats totally fair

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some that i want (age-old bond) are raid locked but id gety them eventually

tidal merlin
#

Oh it IS shatter

fathom marten
#

Yes because you still need shatterdive to skate at all

#

The only difference is the sword used

fathom marten
tidal merlin
#

I was thinking of psi aeterna

fathom marten
#

It'd have to be a delayed thing because you couldn't have the sword out at the same time or in time

#

A grenade would work better

tidal merlin
#

Ill be honest sword skate is the only skate I know right now

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Id hate to switch to a stasis hunter, I treasure my heal rift

fathom marten
#

Shatterskating is the only thing I macro because I don't have the physical capability to do it otherwise. I also don't skate much unless it's to confuse new lights near Shaw Han

fathom marten
tidal merlin
#

There is no skate beyond eager edge for stormcallers, is there?

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T-T

fathom marten
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If there is it's worse than well or shatterskate

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I just have one loadout slot reserved for a shatterskate loadout and I just swap to that but that's not really feasible on warlock since you need the entire super

tidal merlin
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My one priority is surviving the shitton of damage I take in.
If I can stack up a overdose of frost armor with a stasis hunter and still have weapons > 150 Ill make a new character

fathom marten
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Hyperblade skating will probably be even more rarely used than shatter or well skating. Most people just use a normal Eager Edge sword and are fine with it

tidal merlin
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But it looks so badass. Maybe I can do an actual combat build that includes shatterskate but that could take a good while if its even possible.

fathom marten
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It is possible but I don't even bother really with it. In the rare instance that I want to skate in a level, I just swap to the loadout whose sole purpose is "go fast" with an Eager Edge sword and St0mp-EE5 and then simply swap back once I've reached the destination

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The typical issue with normal Eager Edge is that you're basically sacrificing your heavy ammo slot for it. With Hyperblade you don't have that issue and Praxic Blade is still currently one of the best weapons in the game.

tidal merlin
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Is it gonna be one of the best in the game or for the season though?
Tbh hearing that is a bit shocking. I know it can reflect and has borderline infinite ammo but youre still bringing a knife to a gunfight

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Even if you can throw said knife like a boomerang

fathom marten
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Aegis lists it as like 11th or so best damage method.

waxen ibex
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this only works if the enemy is against a wall and is really really niche

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for normal usecases though it does the dps of an exotic heavy with like

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infinite ammo and it's a special weapon

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assuming solar super for impact core

fathom marten
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What spreadsheet is that from?

waxen ibex
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Aegis'...

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You literally screenshotted from it

fathom marten
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Oh

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I normally only look at the top of that sheet and not much further down

languid moss
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How does one unlock more prism abilities?
I just unlocked prism Titan. :3

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Simply play the story orrrrr?

fathom marten
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Campaign and post-campaign quests if first time or adventures if second time

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Fragments are hidden in chests but only need to be acquired once total

languid moss
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Ahh, ok.
Thanks!

tidal merlin
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Where can I get a fast talker with accel assault?

uncut mica
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Im trying to check my latency in pvp for destiny. I check my tcp connection and I see two desinty 2 exe and one shows 129 and the one on top is 248. which is the one i should focus?

high lily
round stirrup
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Any of events happening at reset?

forest dagger
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How long does it take for more public events to start in Europa

fathom marten
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The only reasonable one is Arms Week but they’ve given no timetable for anything between now and March 3rd

forest dagger
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Is chaperone special ammo?

round stirrup
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Wow seriously?? That’s crazy

sharp flicker
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why would a new one startnow

round stirrup
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What was last week

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Dawning?

sharp flicker
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yes

round stirrup
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Makin cookies for some mid ass guns less goooo

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Fuck ass event

sharp flicker
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was the best farm for 2 of the best sets in the game

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fero and swordmaster

turbid sorrel
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trust

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one day itll come

fathom marten
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For a second I thought you sent an image of the roadmap with that notification and I was going to blow you up with my mind powers

tame hornet
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is blueberries.gg a trustworthy source for god rolls and other information

turbid talon
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Not really on either front, I'm afraid. blueberries.gg has had outdated information a number of times I've checked it.

high lily
forest dagger
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Where do you get the plug one

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Can kill in PvP in one shot at full hp

tame hornet
turbid talon
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Literally all of them.