❓destiny-questions

[broken forge]

you can definitely text chat it, but just dont take too long to type

[stark bobcat]

i'll try that, i'll find someone who know the mission well

[cerulean sail]

i think you could do it in text if you have experience already

[waxen ibex]

Tbf the symbol parts also give you like literally 3 minutes to read the symbols too since you have to reveal them one at a time

The only part that would be tricky with text chat imo is the final room clocks

[broken forge]

oh, also theres timers in the mission but tbh theyre really generous once you get past the first area

[stark bobcat]

the thing is english isnt my main language , so i just need to look for someone speaking my language x)

[cerulean sail]

they cycle so you could probably call one out and wait for it to cycle back

[stark bobcat]

anyway vc may be easier

[broken forge]

vc will be easier, but text chat is also doable

[cerulean sail]

there is a french LFG server

[waxen ibex]

Yeah that's a common strat in general but I feel like it could be hard to convey exactly which one in the rotation you're doing first lol

[stark bobcat]

To unlock the mission I need to do the wave thing in every area right ?

Forgot the name

[cerulean sail]

one full overthrow in each area and after that kill the secret keepers that spawn during the grace period after an overthrow

[waxen ibex]

Why would language be an issue

[broken forge]

its a fairly lengthy process, i would recommend looking up a guide on how to unlock it

[waxen ibex]

This is the entirety of the vocabulary you would need to communicate

[broken forge]

id assume describing vow symbols would make it a challenge

[waxen ibex]

They all have official bungie provided names

I don't think that's a problem

[cerulean sail]

ok name the vow symbols in french

[hollow oak]

baguette

[broken forge]

that doesnt mean they would know how to pronounce them nor would they suddenly be familiar with english callouts 💔

[waxen ibex]

Yeah I'm saying that if they can handle asking questions in an English discord I think the language barrier needed for symbol callouts has long been surpassed a while ago

[cerulean sail]

text is far easier than speech

[stark bobcat]

I speak english but not a lot with other People in vc, so telleling a mate the symbols Name would be tedious

[jaunty whale]

This is 100% true lol

[waxen ibex]

Can just type the symbol name if you don't wanna say it

[cerulean sail]

yeah so then they're doing it over text and not vc

[waxen ibex]

It's easier to do that anyway since my chud teammate makes me repeat it 3 times while he's finding it

[cerulean sail]

[stark bobcat]

What are the chance of dropping this item beside the exotic quest ?

Just in case

[waxen ibex]

You cannot drop it without first doing the quest

[cerulean sail]

escalating chance from overthrow chests

[stark bobcat]

I sure can

[cerulean sail]

you can if you bought it from Eva

[stark bobcat]

I dropped one this morning

[waxen ibex]

Oh then yeah you can

[stark bobcat]

Just to know what are the chance

[waxen ibex]

It's still shit to farm the class items without since no attunement

[cerulean sail]

not doing dual destiny just locks you out of attunement yea

[waxen ibex]

Attunement takes getting desired roll from like 1/64 to a 1/16 I think

[stark bobcat]

I already got a pretty good roll for melee build

[waxen ibex]

We don't know but on avg you get one every 1-2 overthrows

[stark bobcat]

Not that bad then

[waxen ibex]

With current strange coin rates it may be better to farm strange coins from a really fast portal activity and buy class items if you're really fast

[manic fossil]

I havent played destiny in a few years, so im completely lost with everything that has came out since and all the changes...where is a good place to start relearning how to play again, or a good place to read up on everything, or maybe there's something thay could help me figure things out again?

[waxen ibex]

Since each portal activity can give like 6 coins

[stark bobcat]

Yeah there's xur today, I May buy some and hope to get lucky

[waxen ibex]

Start with just doing the campaigns you haven't done

[manic fossil]

I dont remember the last dlc I bought but im sure there has been 2 or 3 since I've last played

[stark bobcat]

Anyway thx for the tips everyone

[waxen ibex]

Legacy collection is on sale again and gives you everything but the 2 newest dlcs (which are half sized dlcs and both represent this year, also edge of fate sucks anyway for content) if you do plan to buy anything

I kinda just assumed you got that sorry, without dlcs for campaigns honestly the game has a really shitty onboarding experience rn

Idk what exactly would you need to relearn to play

Kinda need to be more specific than that since the game hasn't really changed a whole lot at its core

[manic fossil]

Uh I guess besides campaign stuff what should I do to get light level up or what should I be going after...im usually solo so raids and nightfalls are rare for me to actually get done

[high lily]

portal activities are how you increase power

[waxen ibex]

There's a boost to 300 power in the tower rn but you also really shouldn't care about power that much rn

[manic fossil]

I dont even know what portal activities are

[waxen ibex]

Raids don't contribute to power grind at all really rn and they're kind of sidelining power as a system rn

[high lily]

basically the home screen, any activity you find in the bottom left menus

[waxen ibex]

As of right now it basically exists to buff your rewards from the only content that raises it

[manic fossil]

Is there a way on my phone to see what dlcs i have bought or own?

[broken forge]

you might be able to check via the xbox store

[waxen ibex]

Did you overexaggerate how long you were gone

You've got some pretty recent items on you at least

Like lightfall and tfs era

[manic fossil]

When did those come out bc I feel like it's been at least 2 or 3 years

[waxen ibex]

Dude you have stuff from revenant

That was like last year

[manic fossil]

I didnt play last year unless my son got on

[waxen ibex]

Oh maybe that is what happened then

You have a bunch of season 25 iron banner shit

[manic fossil]

The last thing I can remember doing myself was some forsaken stuff I dont even remember what it was called

[cerulean sail]

last year was 7 years ago

👴

[manic fossil]

I'm trash at crucible so it had to my son getting that stuff

[river jewel]

[manic fossil]

I do feel pretty old

[waxen ibex]

Looks like you last actually played in witch queen?

So 2022

[manic fossil]

Possibly

[cerulean sail]

season of the witch pulse, season of the wish multimach

[waxen ibex]

Idk you didn't really miss all that much since then I feel like

2023 was year of reddit complaining until season of the deep made people happy halfway through

Plus they added a green subclass

2024 added the subclass that does everything

The biggest change since then is probably just the portal kinda making the game really confusing to engage with

[jaunty whale]

there is the revenant pulse tho

[waxen ibex]

I looked at his actual activity history and it seems like his son just logged in for like a couple days during revenant when iron banner was up

Otherwise last actually played the game in 2022

[jaunty whale]

ahh ok

[waxen ibex]

So I guess that explains it

[jaunty whale]

makes more sense

[river jewel]

Me too, osteoarthritis suckssss

[cerulean sail]

zamn

[harsh jackal]

how to i get a perfect recall? i never seem to get one when playing melas panoplia

[waxen ibex]

There's a specific timing you have to recall it after it hits an enemy

Roughly 2 seconds after I think

You'll see the hammer start glowing to prompt you

Also makes a noise

So don't just recall immediately

[harsh jackal]

OHHHH damn thank you

i never noticed that

[fossil orbit]

when do the powerlevel reset?

[high lily]

Probably the expansion after renegades, but we dont have any info on that

[fossil orbit]

oh oke, because i thought it will reset on the patch with renegades, thanks!

[pastel zealot]

they walked that back after all the portal backlash thankfully :)

[fossil orbit]

well i guess its deserved

[stoic barn]

When is the star wars expansion

[jaunty whale]

next tuesday

[lusty scroll]

after unlocking this in Final shape campaign, how to go about farming/crafting it for preferred perks?

[jaunty whale]

you need to get 5 of them with a red border and claim the deepsight patterns

only then can you go craft it at the enclave at mars

[lusty scroll]

and final shape stuff should randomly drop them?

[jaunty whale]

ye

do overthrows i guess

[pastel zealot]

can also focus em at ghost

[near salmon]

is mida mini tool usable for speedloader strand, i didnt play in solstice so i dont have yeartide

[pearl plinth]

it's pretty much the perfect substitute

[high lily]

Btw the main 2 perks you want on it are Physic and Attrition Orbs

[twin peak]

circle of life?

[jaunty whale]

attrition orbs much better utility, you don't really use support frames for killing more than red bars anyway

[weak cave]

what is this bs bug that keeps happening when u eager edge a witch and get laucnhed cross the map

[fringe cradle]

Whats the best way to grind seasonal xp for the pass? at 94 and i want to try to finish 110

[solemn zodiac]

seasonal challenges if you got any left

[fringe cradle]

I have those silly "go collect this collectible" challenges to do

and then the grandmaster feats or whatever theyre called, but im only 360 power

[safe iris]

i'd do these since you can get all of them before doing any actual encounter

[fringe cradle]

Do they have to be done in the portal?

[safe iris]

im pretty sure the activities are only in the portal

[fringe cradle]

Gotcha! ty

[fossil orbit]

is it worth to grind (GRIND) for tier 5 loot?

[pearl plinth]

depends what you're currently using but pretty much yes

tier 5 gear, and armour specifically, is just.. better than lower tiers

[fossil orbit]

do you think i need to rush it, for some content?

[pastel zealot]

i mean yeah thats the point innit

but theyre not So much better that you need to worry about it

you can do without an enhanced origin trait

[pastel zealot]

nah, youll get there when you get there .trust

grinding for the sake of grinding will just burn you out of the game

theres no content you Cant beat without tier 1 gear

(after the supply drop your drops should be around tier 3 anyway)

[waxen ibex]

Does not matter at all

[fossil orbit]

ye i mean im at gear 4 right now, but i have done it months ago, just being safe, if that doess make sens

[rancid fern]

Is the fireteam XP boost still a thing?

[pastel zealot]

yeah

[gusty parcel]

where can i find Tomb of Elders? its not in the Fireteam Ops section of my Portal

[pastel zealot]

pinnacle ops

[gusty parcel]

oh ok, did they just misword the seasonal challenge

[waxen ibex]

They moved it at some point a month or two ago

So that pinnacle tab would have a matchmade option

[gusty parcel]

oh lol mine has matchmaking off. thanks for the info though

[fossil orbit]

how do i get 1 point in "CALL TO ARMS" i cant find the tab where i can play this mode

[pearl plinth]

you're about 2 weeks late, the event has ended

[fossil orbit]

:D

how the hell do i get the crossbow then?

[pearl plinth]

it'll probably be around in the dawning

it's been an extra drop in the other seasonal events

the good news if it's not is that you're not missing out on much

[fossil orbit]

so there is a seasonal tab, in the portal, does it count aswell?

[pearl plinth]

no that's unrelated

by seasonal I mean like. Christmas and Halloween and whatnot

not ingame seasons

[agile sable]

Is the Neomuna triumph bugged? I've beaten the entire lightfall campaign on legendary, twice, but for some reason it hasn't marked Downfall, Breakneck, No Time Left or Desperate Measures as complete

[pastel zealot]

theres gonna be another call to arms event during renegades

probably then

[sudden egret]

Those are the weekly campaign missions

[agile sable]

Ohhh

[tame delta]

can u guys do me a favor plz and have xur sell a deepsight harmonizer today?

[little pewter]

Thats not something we can influence

[tame delta]

☹️

[sharp kraken]

does it matter which one of the 3 reclaims im choosing? (cabals watch / conductors keep / fallen bunker)

[sudden egret]

No

[sharp kraken]

is boomslang-4fr good for pve?

[sudden egret]

No, all lfr are not great right now

[sharp kraken]

did bungie mention anything about saint-14 as a vendor in renegades? is he gonna stay useless like in edge of fate?

[fossil orbit]

somebody told me that you get T4 loot at 350, but i aint getting it?

[jaunty whale]

kinda rare i think. i only started regularly getting t4 when i was 400+

[distant oxide]

Does igneous hammer still drop from trials?

or is it soft vaulted

[fierce spear]

No. Can only get from xur now

[rancid tundra]

There's a plugin you can use to go back through old season passes to claim things you didn't get during the season

Idk if it's something they've added to the base game alongside the old seasonal ornaments

[pastel zealot]

nope

[steel sundial]

you can’t get harmonizers through that i dont think

you can buy harmonizers from the kiosk although you are limited to 5 per season

[pastel zealot]

you can

[steel sundial]

oh

well nevermind

[distant oxide]

Does crouching impact recoil or anything else?

[steel sundial]

i think it increases stability and also increases accuracy on bows

[stark bobcat]

does the stag do something with phoenix dive ? i think not but better to ask

[drifting plinth]

it does not

[stark bobcat]

is star eater + stag spirit a trash roll on solipism or can i do something with it

[steel sundial]

yes

stag is an auto trash perk

[stark bobcat]

why 80% onf my rolls have stag then

[steel sundial]

do you have stag attuned for some odd reason

[stark bobcat]

can i list here all of my rolls ? or somewhere esle but can someone tell me which ones are great and which one are not

[stark bobcat]

i have not done dual destiny so nothing is attuned

[turbid talon]

Then you have been graced by the blessing of RNG

[steel sundial]

you can probably shard every single one that doesnt have inmost light

but you can drop them all in #💎shard-it-keep-it if you wish

[stark bobcat]

my game is in french, bette to share screenshopt in french or write down every roll ?

[steel sundial]

i speak french

i'll take a look at em

[drifting plinth]

i can also take a look

i also speak french

[stark bobcat]

i shared them already in #💎shard-it-keep-it

[drifting plinth]

also, a lot of the people appraising rolls in there can go off icons

[harsh jackal]

is there a one-two-punch kinetic which i can get right now

[covert herald]

Is there anything that gives a quick 10k XP?

[sudden egret]

wastelander from dares

[harsh jackal]

is it in rotation?

[steel sundial]

aureus neutralizer or wastelander

swordbreaker as well

[sudden egret]

it drops all dares weapons

no rotation

[harsh jackal]

okay thanks!

[turbid talon]

Dares has two loot pools. One is the end-of-activity rewards with old content gear, which has a rotation, and the other is the Dares exclusive gear, which does not have a rotation.
Wastelander is a craftable weapon from the exclusive gear, so it's always available. The chest next to Xûr can provide it. Make sure you've got crafting unlocked if you haven't already, you might get lucky with Pattern progress.

[harsh jackal]

ahhh so i pretty much should farm the keys?

from the horse

[turbid talon]

It's been a while since I've done Dares, but if I recall, the Paraversal Haul boxes can provide multiple keys, making them a more efficient method of getting keys on average.

Unless that's changed since I last did it haha

[tulip oar]

Weekly bounties (Variks, Eris, Petra)

[solid cedar]

Guys, How i get a prime engram?

[rancid tundra]

Are they still in the game?

[drifting plinth]

i dont think they exist as a thing that can go to rahool

[solid cedar]

🥹

[rancid tundra]

What's it for?

[drifting plinth]

oh

for that it does exist

[rancid tundra]

Surely thats doable then

[drifting plinth]

for that it's the new "prime engram"

[distant oxide]

Can you get edge transit anymore?

[drifting plinth]

it's a thing where something drops one above your current tier

[distant oxide]

Besides from xur randomly

[drifting plinth]

no

[rancid tundra]

Is onslaught still a thing or is it just gone?

[drifting plinth]

it's not gone

but it drops pinn ops stuff

[lethal nymph]

Is it still possible to one phase the witness with a fireteam of 6?

[drifting plinth]

yes

[lethal nymph]

Ahh ok. Is the meta still celestial night hawk with still hunt?

[opal lava]

I just hit light lvl 300 from the stuff from the tower at what light lvl do I start getting t5 gear?

[drifting plinth]

atm, you can probably do better

but on dec 2 celestial+nighthawk is getting turbo buffed

[drifting plinth]

450

[opal lava]

Will it take long to get to 450 from 300?

[drifting plinth]

not that long

[opal lava]

Okay, thank you

[summer sierra]

Where is the wondering bone collector on the moon?

[steel sundial]

spawns near the altar of sorrows

[summer sierra]

Kk

[summer sierra]

Do you have any tips to get him to spawn ext?

[steel sundial]

ah sorry hold on i got it confused with a different quest

he's at the anchor of light

i think they're always there

[summer sierra]

It’s for the death bringers quest?

[steel sundial]

yeah

i was confused with one of the festival of the lost quests

[summer sierra]

Thx

I’m guessing it’s pretty obvious

Found it

[shadow echo]

When requesting info from Bungie on your account info is it normal for them to tell you to verify your account by changing the about me section to a specific code they send you in your email?

[distant oxide]

Are weapon perks/mods active when they are stowed? Like if i have threat detector giving me +30 handling: is that only for that gun when drawn?

[glad crag]

It depends on the perk. Some will and some won’t

The new raid weapons specifically say “will work when stowed”

[distant oxide]

Binary orbit, and threat detector are the ones I’m curious about. You know anything about those?

[pastel zealot]

only for the weapon when drawn, yes

[brittle osprey]

is it possible to get the bonus rewards from the quickplay playlists or am I just trolling myself?

Doesnt seem to be an option to change the modifiers to get the score high enough

[pastel zealot]

nope, that playlist is only there for people 300 and under

[steel sundial]

(which is extremely dumb, by the way)

[shadow echo]

When requesting info from Bungie on your account info is it normal for them to tell you to verify your account by changing the about me section to a specific code they send you in your email? @rancid fern

[rancid fern]

No idea, I’ve never had to do it.

[shadow echo]

Okay thank you for the help thus far tho

[chilly spade]

what does xur sell rn

[steel sundial]

eager edge adept slammer

nothing else of note

[chilly spade]

i shall aquire for the memes

if i have strange coins for it lol

[steel sundial]

it's 41

[pulsar hemlock]

is this sword any good

other than eager edge

[glad crag]

It’s a decent roll but could be better

[pulsar hemlock]

will i gain any sort of benifit from the demolitionist perk

[cerulean sail]

a bit of grenade energy on kill

[pulsar hemlock]

wb the reloads the gun part?

[steel sundial]

well its a sword so

aint much to reload lol

[pulsar hemlock]

then why the hell would bungie make that a perk pool on a sword if you wont gain a benifit from it?

[steel sundial]

theres still the other half of it

lmao

[pulsar hemlock]

thats just stupid honestly

i think they decided to have that perk so that the players who grinded for it wont be upset

[steel sundial]

what

[pulsar hemlock]

they put that perk on todays xur pool so that the players who grinded for the same sword wont be angry that theyre selling an eager edge adept sword for ppl to buy

[steel sundial]

demo is one of the best perks to go with eager for that sword

you arent going to be killing things with it anyway but a substantial amount of grenade energy for when you do is definitely nice

[steel sundial]

this shows the roll most people have, not what's "the best"

[pulsar hemlock]

so its better than cold steel?

[steel sundial]

cold steel is also nice of course, but they are both good

[steel sundial]

not what i said

[pulsar hemlock]

honestly slowing down enemies would sound much better compared to a perk that half of it is useless on the sword

[steel sundial]

these stats would tell you that permeability and bait n switch are better than demolitionist

which they absolutely are not

[waxen ibex]

What are you yapping about

[steel sundial]

most people do it for the champion stun capability, which by the way only works on one champ that happens to be the easiest to stun

[waxen ibex]

If someone wants an eager edge vortex frame that perk is the literal only slot that matters

[pulsar hemlock]

about how they used a perk which i think is not so good on a sword

[waxen ibex]

1/1 god roll

[steel sundial]

any perk other than eager on an eager sword is already "half of it is useless" territory

my own slammer that I grinded for has demo lmao

[waxen ibex]

A sword with eager is not used with the intent to ever create a damage number

[pulsar hemlock]

its a 1/1 IF someone wants that specific perk only

but by basic rule its not a 1/1

[waxen ibex]

And if they do it's on a red bar

[waxen ibex]

Yes people want slammer for eager edge only

[steel sundial]

yes, and the point is that eager swords ONLY MATTER if they have eager

[waxen ibex]

The only reason to ever use a vortex frame is eager edge

[steel sundial]

anything else there is entirely preference

you can ask anybody with a cold steel slammer how many times they've actually used the cold steel part and i guarantee you most people will answer with "probably 3 or 4 times"

the two things that matter most on an eager edge sword are eager edge itself and the ammo count

[pulsar hemlock]

okay, i want a mint only for rewind rwind, if i got it its a 1/1 groll

[waxen ibex]

Kid named just oneshotting the unstoppable champion without bothering to stun it

[waxen ibex]

This is a false equivalency

[steel sundial]

you're missing the point

no perk besides eager edge has this trait

[waxen ibex]

What do you think eager edge does

[pulsar hemlock]

dude if the perk slot does not matter then why do people grind continusly for that perk and cold steel only

[waxen ibex]

Because it is not used because it lets you hit a thrall from farther away

[pulsar hemlock]

theres a reason why its 50% of peoples perk

[steel sundial]

eager edge is without a doubt one of the best perks in the entire game, to the point where a weapon with it makes the other perk completely irrelevant

[shadow echo]

Does skipping the new light give me the chance to still get the Void fragment Echo of reprisal from Ikora?

[waxen ibex]

Because you could target farm it from gms and it was the only thing to do for half of a season

[steel sundial]

because people grind for minor conveniences on every weapon

[steel sundial]

yes

by your own logic, people grinded continuously for bait n switch and permeability

which i guarantee you they did not

[waxen ibex]

I grinded continuously to get the blinding grenades y1 gl I pulled from collections 7 years later to blind enemies while doing crota cheese

[pulsar hemlock]

im trying to say that a perk that only half of it work on a weapon shouldnt be on that weapon

[waxen ibex]

Also multiple perk rolls per column ends up making the light.gg stats extremely skewed and just wrong too

[waxen ibex]

The entire point of eager edge on a vortex is that it will not be used to attack enemies

Thusly any damage perk does nothing for 99% of the swords lifetime

[cerulean sail]

the entire point of eager edge end of story ngl

[pulsar hemlock]

i still use the sword to deal damage sometimes

i have 1.8k kills

[steel sundial]

and i guarantee you cold steel wouldnt make a difference to you doing that

[waxen ibex]

Ok but none of the perks in that column actually do anything important and killing 5 red bars with cold steel is 0 value add

[steel sundial]

and in this scenario demo would provide you with vastly more value ^

[waxen ibex]

Did cold steel exist before they nerfed slow to not stun two champ types too

At least then it had utility because it was an eager edge riptide

And then they gutted that and now slow only works on overloads which are always the easiest to stun regardless

[steel sundial]

people farmed cold steel to be able to stun unstops

[cerulean sail]

yes

[steel sundial]

now they cant

so "half the perk is now useless"

lmao

[cerulean sail]

cold steel existed before they made verbs stun champs even

[pulsar hemlock]

perk: reloads gun from magazine, does a sword have magazine?

keep up

[cerulean sail]

the main attraction for demo is the grenade recharge unles you're doing demo rocket dps

[waxen ibex]

This sounds wrong

[high lily]

Ok but Flash Counter + Cold Steel? Now thats where its at

[waxen ibex]

I must google

[pulsar hemlock]

give me a gud reason as to why put a perk that can reload a gun when the gun cant RELOAD

[steel sundial]

perk when people farmed cold steel: stuns unstops and overloads
perk: doesnt stun unstops

keep up

[cerulean sail]

nobody cares about using demo to reload weapons, it's a nice bonus to getting grenade energy on weapon kill

[steel sundial]

^

most people don't use that part of demo on weapons other than rockets

[pulsar hemlock]

but i wouldnt want a benifit to be thrown away

[cerulean sail]

the ONE use case is demo rocket dps and that's not been the meta for 2 years

[waxen ibex]

Holy fuck cold steel was added in season 15 nevermind

[steel sundial]

the point of demo is that you get grenade energy when you kill things

[pulsar hemlock]

wht am i grinding for

its not that hard buddy

[waxen ibex]

I forgot Zephyr ever existed

[cerulean sail]

Zephyr jumpscare

[pulsar hemlock]

its a terrible idea to begin with

[waxen ibex]

They basically put that perk on no swords so I genuinely thought it was a tfs added perk

[cerulean sail]

there have only been like 2 stasis swords tbf

[steel sundial]

my brother

"eager edge = keep"

what is your point

[waxen ibex]

It was a Zephyr exclusive until defiance put it on goldtusk

[cerulean sail]

goldtusk is not stasis

[waxen ibex]

OK this is an api psyop

The api says it rolls on goldtusk

[cerulean sail]

slammer is the second stasis sword and it came out during wish

[waxen ibex]

That one is not my fault

[cerulean sail]

goldtusk is arc

[merry temple]

[pulsar hemlock]

i agree

[steel sundial]

yall forgetting the goat ill omen

[pulsar hemlock]

its a keep, im keeping that sword

[cerulean sail]

3rd stasis sword ever

[pulsar hemlock]

but im trying to prove a point that perk should not be on a sword

[steel sundial]

even though proximity power does nothing because you can't melee while you're holding a sword?

[cerulean sail]

yeah it should be

[pulsar hemlock]

ur really looking at a screen shot when i did not know muich about perks

[waxen ibex]

I was just mentioning how cold steel is a fake perk because I thought was a newer perk since it was on like one weapon before tfs

[pulsar hemlock]

u think i still have taht sword with the same perks?

[steel sundial]

if the perk did LITERALLY NOTHING then i'd agree

but it doesnt

[cerulean sail]

the perk's main effect remains

[pulsar hemlock]

perk: gives grenade energy + reloads gun, Sword: no magazine so no reload

half of it is gone

so half of it is useless

[waxen ibex]

I only have one grenade so half the demo perk does nothing after I throw a grenade

[pulsar hemlock]

not that hard to understand

[waxen ibex]

Half the perk is useless

[cerulean sail]

you're unserious

[steel sundial]

yes but the most important part of demo is still there and still works

[pulsar hemlock]

im not trying to joke

[waxen ibex]

By the way demo generates like double the grenade energy on swords precisely because the mag reload part doesn't do anything lol

[high lily]

Certain weapon types give more nade energy, like glaives fusions and swords

[cerulean sail]

say that the reload part is there to aid your weapon when you're killing and keeping your nades coming, where's the downtime on a sword? does a sword need to be helped to get back to killing?

i refuse to believe this is a serious conversation

[steel sundial]

(swords don't)

but yes

[waxen ibex]

Wow I thought demo was tuned to do more on heavy weapons but it doesn't

I'm senile

[steel sundial]

it does but not on swords for whatever reason

[waxen ibex]

Data compendium at least says it's the same on all weapon types but shotgun glaive fusion sniper

Which is kinda abnormal honestly

[steel sundial]

make sense

those weapons are awkward to get kills on

except fusions thats kind of weird

[radiant mesa]

so renegades is coming out when?

[steel sundial]

december 3rd

[radiant mesa]

ty

[cerulean sail]

erm december 2nd

[steel sundial]

downtime

[cerulean sail]

oh

[pulsar hemlock]

1 day of downtime?

[steel sundial]

12 hours

[pulsar hemlock]

damnm

good thing 9pm is the reset time

[waxen ibex]

They did this when the only demo fusion was wizened rebuke

It took them 5 years to make a demo reservoir burst fusion

[steel sundial]

get the preload if you can

[waxen ibex]

Masterminds of bungie

[steel sundial]

big brain

[pulsar hemlock]

im on pc

i can usually preload a pre order but not an update

[steel sundial]

i don't mind im just gonna leave it on while i go to class

[waxen ibex]

Yeah Playstation is the only platform where preloading a dlc is even a feature

On pc/Xbox they're just releasing the update when downtime starts

[pulsar hemlock]

@waxen ibex do you really invest in crypto?

[steel sundial]

i'm gonna be hopeful and say their bio is a joke

[high lily]

#🟩server-status🟩 says 1 hour?

[waxen ibex]

Faith in humanity restored

Critical thinking is real

[steel sundial]

who da hell told me it was 12

[blissful arch]

Does anyone know how to get all 12 loadout slots

Im rank 8 and still dont have

Which rank gives all 12?

[lusty scroll]

yall know how to get this weapon?

[shy gazelle]

From sundered doctrine

Final encounter

[opal lava]

Do I get all the prismatic shards if I skip the campaign?

[cerulean sail]

no

[lusty scroll]

do i need a dungeon key for that?

[shy gazelle]

If you don’t already own it yes

[cerulean sail]

yes, the "The Final Shape Dungeon Key"

[opal lava]

Damn, so the skip is useless?

[lusty scroll]

damn, so just confirming, there is absolutely no way to get that weapon without the dungeon key

[cerulean sail]

well it skips the campaign, not the post-campaign

[lusty scroll]

cause if not I'll look for another gun

[cerulean sail]

once renegades comes out most things will be playable for free for a week

idk if that includes dungeons from dungeon keys but maybe

[lusty scroll]

ok thx

well until then I'll chill

[rigid hedge]

is there a way to multi select perks on d2 foundry? im trying to figure otu what my ideal godroll is and being able to select mutliple would be convinient, ill just throw it in MS paint but figued id ask

[pastel zealot]

they Are included in the free access week yeah!

[glad current]

is ice breaker like farmable now since its an older dungeon and rotators arent really athing anymore

or do i need to wait for it to become available in the portal or something

[cerulean sail]

it is

[marsh pewter]

Can ergo sum's wolfpack rounds be arc?

[turbid sorrel]

would assume so

since it can be solar and void

[mental rune]

hey guys just wondering how i get relativism for my hunter im a bit lost on it all

[rigid hedge]

I wonder how the Praxic blade will be displayed in the character menu since its in the first slot, Wish we could just move our weapons around willy nilly at this point.

[hollow oak]

does reload speed effect iteration?

[marsh pewter]

is that the exotic class item?

[mental rune]

yes im just confused how to get it

[rigid hedge]

think so

[marsh pewter]

me too lol i ain't tried to get it yet

i know it's got some secret-ish way to get access to the mission then a two player exotic-mission esque mission

[mental rune]

idk how to get the mission tho

[glad current]

do you have to complete the full dungeons to get chances at their exotics or just the final boss?

[cerulean sail]

just final

[glad current]

sick thank you guys

[mental rune]

does anyone know how to get the exotic class item ?

on the pale heart idk how to get the exotic quest

[dark mango]

complete each overthrow once, then complete one of them again, and look for a secret taken boss spawn (i would watch a guide for this) repeat this for the 2 other locations

[marsh pewter]

Do you need to do each overthrow i've seen secret keeper text pop up before after just one?

[dark mango]

then 2 orbs will spawn and you’ll have to carry them to the deposit (will be marked on your hud)

[dark mango]

if you see secret keeper text you are good

just find it and kill

[mental rune]

so i can do any ? or do i need to do each before i see the text

[dark mango]

you need to do all of them once, then on rhe 2nd clear the secret keeper will spawn

[mental rune]

okey thank youu :)#

[hollow oak]

have we heard anything about barrow dyad

[high lily]

Derealize will be added to the portal in Renegades

[marsh pewter]

it's a duo mission wanna try it blind?

[mental rune]

yeah can do i wont be able to call but i can type

[restive jolt]

What's the best forsaken exotic?

[azure prism]

is the tennis finisher currently available?

[high lily]

probably Bad Juju for pve

izanagi is a close second

[restive jolt]

Alright thanks 👍

Also I just bought the destiny 2 legacy collection, what should my priority be?

[tame delta]

is demolitionist affected by the grenade stat? in terms of how much grenade energy is restoreed?

[oblique basalt]

Arc wolfpack ergo or void telesto ergo?

I figure element doesnt really matter relative to perk ey?

[river jewel]

That’s very circumstantial

Boss dps go for Wolfpack

[oblique basalt]

Fire

[high lily]

telesto one is terrible

[oblique basalt]

The wolfpack is caster is that the one I want or waveframe?

[dark mango]

it doesn’t matter

you swap to your heavy sword for dps

but wave is better iirc

[river jewel]

For the second encounter in salvations edge I would use a void ergo sum with Wolfpack rounds and swap between proccing Wolfpack and dps with a heavy sword

Vortex frame

Ez clear

[high lily]

or just use wolfsbane

*after the buff

[marsh whale]

what the best hunter build ?

[dark mango]

inmost + cyrt exotic class item

[marsh whale]

yeah but then what abilities and weapons do i use

[dark mango]

mint, your primary of choice/choir eager edge sword

[twin peak]

tether/goldie spike grapple ascension stylish

[dark mango]

grapple, threaded spike/combo blow

and ya stylish ascension

[twin peak]

purpose protection hope balance

[tulip tulip]

Can someone explain to me why I see rank 11 players, who are the worst players on this planet, is there a service that helps you or something like that?

[mental lake]

Haven’t been on d2 for a while. I’ve been on Battlefield 6. Before I got to play that game I had to change something in my bios. Now I’m back on Destiny 2 and I’ve been getting these battle eye time outs

[tame delta]

rank 11 doesnt make someone good at the game, what makes you think that?

[drifting plinth]

Gr11 is also kinda free

[sudden egret]

The only difficulty step of gr11 is the ult conquest and you can get carried on those

[tulip tulip]

More than anything else, I'm only missing the last achievement, but I'm trying to do it solo because everyone I find in LFG isn't very good.

[sudden egret]

Yeah, that’s a tough spot. Lfg is kinda dead at the end of the season.

[drifting plinth]

I'd be down to try

[sudden egret]

And solo ult conquest is really tough

[drifting plinth]

Sometime this weekend

I still need to do those

[tulip tulip]

i only need the last conquest because i managed to do the hypernet alone

[drifting plinth]

I'm 550 btw so I can do all of them

[tulip tulip]

but the avalon in solo is pure agony

[drifting plinth]

I'll run wormgods consecration

[tame delta]

if you really want to be picky, raid report/dungeon report the people joining your lobby and see how many dungeons they're solo flawlessed. that'll at least tell you something from the get-go

[rancid fern]

Is there something GR11 gives you thats actually worth the effort?

Or is it just bragging rights & the title?

[calm crane]

Now after they removed the solo dungeon master raid

[tame delta]

not much to brag about with this GR11, at least the previous one required you to solo the latest dungeon. thought theyd make em harder, not easier

[pulsar hemlock]

is it true that the renegades update will allow players to use any exotic ornamnets of other exotics

?

[calm crane]

Tho I’m a bit ashamed of saying this is my first season of GR11 i understand it doesn’t feel as special as previous seasons but it’s ok

[tulip tulip]

i just want to get it alteast one time

[tulip tulip]

same

[azure agate]

Are the armor sets this season going away next season? Like, will we be able to obtain Bushido armor next season or no

[sudden egret]

I just make myself glow every time I’m in the tower to make it feel worth it

[sudden egret]

They aren’t going away

[azure agate]

W

[empty birch]

I just bought a ton of subclass abilities for my hunter why cant i meditate?

[marsh whale]

how long does large ammo brick buff last ?

[sudden egret]

Fast travel to annex and try to meditate again

[teal adder]

will the exotic ornaments be ornaments only or base exotics as well

[pulsar hemlock]

@rancid fern can i use a synthosis ornament on a wormgod exotic piece?

[past dust]

Hi all I’ve recently come back to Destiny and a lot has changed last time I played was the final shape what’s the meta for the warlock class is it still a buddy class or sometime different how does armour work now ? Why can’t I seem to get over power cap gear

[sudden egret]

Buddy builds are still good. Grab the 300 gear from the chest next to Zavala.

And only portal activities drop gear that’s higher power.

[rancid fern]

All ornaments will work as long as it’s the same type of armor, ex: arms=arms.

[past dust]

Ok thank I’ve got the chest after grinding for one day without realising 🫠 and that makes sense about the portal stuff do I buy this years expansions are they worth it or wait till they are on sale ? Do warlocks still have a place in raids or not rly

[sudden egret]

I’d wait for a sale. Well is still king in raids for dps

[past dust]

Ok sorry about the questions I went into a raid with some randoms and this guy just one shot the boss on a hunter is that even possible or is the guy just Cheating

[sudden egret]

It’s possible on atheon

With grapple

[past dust]

Yeah he did it in garden of salvation 3inc

[sudden egret]

I know less about that boss on I’m not sure.

Maybe with the raid mods, will need a gos expert to say.

[past dust]

Ok well thank you for ur time what should I focus on right now I’ve got a decent buddy build not the meta one but it keeps the game fun rather than just spamming arc grenades

Sorry one last question is H.E.L.M still a location I can go to bc I can’t see it on my star map

[uncut mica]

when farming for finality in the sundered doctrine, does it matter if it's normal or master?

[sudden egret]

It’s gone

[sudden egret]

Does not matter

[marsh whale]

i have 185 weapons stat, i try to compare the damage between 185 and 138, almost 50 stat difference and yet my damage is the same, im using izanagi's burden with full stacks and yeti see no difference, does weapons stat over 200 actually do anything ? or do i need to pickup the large ammo brick it gives first before i can get the buff ?

[waxen ibex]

If it's in gos and you can't explain what happened they are in fact cheating

Gos has the most cheaters that play it for some reason lol

[marsh whale]

do things not work correectly in the shooting range ? like some aspects and also the weaopns stat ?

is that it ?

[past dust]

That’s a shame I’ve got his ign but there’s no point why cheat in pve

[trim jetty]

is power level gonna be reset in renegades

[silent hill]

Whats the best exotic engram farm ?

[silent hill]

No

[sudden egret]

Expert lost sectors on Europa or dreaming city

[silent hill]

You can still do those?

[sudden egret]

Yes, those are still the only farmable sources for exotic engrams

[silent hill]

Is it as hard as before or easier ?

[trim jetty]

also are they still giving out high level armor for returning players?

[sudden egret]

Easier if you run anything meta. They are the same but we’ve gotten stronger.

[silent hill]

Ok

[silent hill]

Not sure

[silent hill]

Do I still gotta kill all champs ?

[sudden egret]

Yes

They are still the same but one is active on each planet each day now

[silent hill]

Ah

[oblique basalt]

So what level of health should I be running to avoid getting wrecked by crimils dagger

[high lily]

#📕crucible-playbook might be a better place to ask

[oblique basalt]

Good idea

[sudden egret]

We all have the same total health now

[brave canyon]

It would be faster health regen but PvP you’re looking at 160+

I think

[sudden egret]

Health main effects recov over 100 now

[oblique basalt]

Thanks i'll have a long grind ahead of me looking for high health armor

[brave canyon]

Set that shit to bulwark and hope for the best

[oblique basalt]

🥲

[brave canyon]

I focused all my PvP exotics during Halloween event when you could focus the archetype

If only we knew the changes coming I’d have farm non stop Orpheus rig’s

[marsh whale]

does golden gun marksman only generate orbs of power for teammates ?

[brave canyon]

Yes your supers never drop orbs for you

That goes for all supers

[celest lark]

heliostat isnt going away is it

[copper carbon]

Renegades Expansion: The mission is part of the ongoing narrative and content leading into the Renegades expansion, which launched shortly after the mission's release.

[sudden egret]

it's staying

[marsh whale]

are hunters kinda weak ?, idk i have trouble surviving and the damage of their abilities dont seem as broken as titan or warlock builds

[visual wyvern]

They’re definitely on the bottom rn meta wise

Only thing they have rlly is grapple which is situational

But when renegades drops they will prob be on top

Rn it feels like warlock - titan - hunter

When renegades drops it’ll prob be hunter - warlock - titan

[sudden egret]

if you are running primsmatic, it's all about stacking DR to stay alive

[covert herald]

Is there anywhere to specifically view all the exotic armour ornaments you have or do you have to do that by manually looking at each and every exotic?

[covert herald]

Sadge

I wanted to theory-craft some fashion for the exotic ornament changes

What’s the highest base stat a post-EOF exotic can be?

[drifting plinth]

whatever tier 2 is

so i think 62?

[rancid fern]

Actually it only goes for supers that don’t have a melee attack. While the melee attack from the super won’t generate SUPER orbs for yourself, they still do for your teammates, but you get orbs the same size as a siphon orb. This requires 3x heavy handed mods to work.

[copper carbon]

Returning player, it's been years. Heard there might be some good returning loot once new dlc hits? If I came back now would that ruin it?

[covert herald]

Please don’t reply to me with AI slop 😭

Especially AI slop that’s wrong

[turbid talon]

This is objectively incorrect right off the bat.

[copper carbon]

I wouldn't know. Haven't touched the game in years. Trying to get some help myself so decided to maybe help some others here in while I wait.

[turbid talon]

I'm not really sure what you mean by "ruin".

[covert herald]

Yeah it just completely gets it wrong that the post-EOF exotics share the same stat cap as pre-EOF ones

[drifting plinth]

DO NOT USE AI FOR THIS GAME

EVER

[turbid talon]

Even disregarding the fact that AI is typically incorrect, AI has never been able to keep up with accurate Destiny information ever.

[drifting plinth]

IT IS ASS

^^^^^^

[covert herald]

One of mine has 63, I was just wondering if it can get higher or if that’s it

[high lily]

i use DIM for that

open vendors then open the Tess Everis section

[turbid talon]

What do you define as "ruin"? I can't imagine a way in which that could happen.

[covert herald]

Ohh that’s smart

Thanks

[copper carbon]

Would playing now make me ineligible for any returning player rewards releasing Dec 2?

[turbid talon]

No, that's never been a thing.

[high lily]

bungie stated in a recent twid that the returning player rewards will be available to anyone

[rancid fern]

Not from AI

[high lily]

new players get direct access while people whove been playing get the rewards when playing with returning people

[covert herald]

Ah cheers, so 63 is the max

[tame delta]

is the amount of grenade energy returned through demolitionist affected by the grenade stat?

[dry gorge]

How to stop getting xp but still play game?

[drifting plinth]

dont

[dry gorge]

Dont make me open warframe please

[drifting plinth]

i mean like just play the game normally

[copper carbon]

Nice. Thank you.

[dry gorge]

But the 6 month xp buff

Isnt that OP

[drifting plinth]

the returning player rewards are nothing special other than a decent emplem

[dry gorge]

emblems ugly i just care about the loot and xp

[drifting plinth]

nah, just lets you finish pass faster

that's it

[dry gorge]

hmmm

[still barn]

when did bungie remove shatter from the champ verbs?

[drifting plinth]

eof launch

also, shatter isnt removed

it just stuns overloads not unstops now

slow also stuns overloads

so yes, stasis got nerfed cause of 2 guns

[dry gorge]

💔

[still barn]

well there goes my ability to do champ stuff reliably >->

[dry gorge]

stasis only subclass to stun 1 champ

[drifting plinth]

mid

[dry gorge]

Yo am i gonna be able to buy ts when renegades launch

[drifting plinth]

honestly the bd is the only remotely significant thing

[dry gorge]

and engram

[drifting plinth]

true

[dry gorge]

but i got trash from my engrams during rotn so

[drifting plinth]

but other than that everything hella mid

[dry gorge]

wtever

Ya

tier 3 and tier 4 lmao

[drifting plinth]

^ye, hella mid

[waxen ibex]

How

[dry gorge]

I finally hit 450 i can get t5's now

[waxen ibex]

Prismatic is overpowered and trivializes champs

Getaway artist is the 2025 riptide

[still barn]

I am running stasis titan friend

[drifting plinth]

ice breaker exists'

[coral fox]

whats the best strange coin farm?

[still barn]

I haven't been able to get icebreaker yet

[dry gorge]

wait so since conquests dont have fireteam boosting if im at 455 power doing 500 pwr ultimate im just -50?

no wonder it was taking like 8 consecrations for one champ bruh

[drifting plinth]

gm conquests cap you to -40 btw

sooo

[dry gorge]

oh aight

so not that bad

consecration js sucks now ig

oh wait gm, what does ultimate cap you at?

wait nvm ultiamte is over gm

i hate the new name

[lusty scroll]

is there a perk or exotic weapon that interacts well will multiple debuffs (or just debuffs in general)?
Like if I have a build that jolts, scorches and slows. Would there be a weapon/perk that takes advantage of thisdebuff uptime?

[drifting plinth]

consecration is mid

[drifting plinth]

aggregate charge perk on legendaries(10%(11% if enhanced) dmg per debuff on target, up to 3 debuffs' worth of dmg)

exotic weapons, no

[lusty scroll]

thats perfect

thanks

[waxen ibex]

Dude stasis titan can just ignore champion stuns

[waxen ibex]

Stasis titan has so much burst damage that you can ignore champion stuns as a mechanic

Oh that first one I didn't send wtf

Oops

[still barn]

I haven't been able to simply ignore unstops yet

[waxen ibex]

Two howl casts just straight up kills unstops in ultimate for me

And is enough burst to kill barriers before they shield

[near salmon]

what other primary is good to pair with speedloader slam aside from smg

[coral cedar]

How exactly does skating work. (Not the inputs) i mean like game wise whats going on

[waxen ibex]

Eager edge gives a large burst of forward velocity for a short time as part of the melee lunge

[drifting plinth]

animation canceling somethign something

[waxen ibex]

You're abusing animation cancels to keep that speed

[coral cedar]

Yeh i know that much that ur animation transfers the eager edge momentum

I just mean whys it gotta be off an edge

[waxen ibex]

Touching the ground caps your speed instantly because you're not sliding on ice

The game wants to limit you to the max forward movement speed generally speaking

If you're on the floor

[near salmon]

not always on edge but a small bump you can still skate

[waxen ibex]

So it will rapidly decelerate you

[coral cedar]

Its gotta be downwards tho

[near salmon]

its ground skating

[coral cedar]

thats a little different

I just mean normal skating

[waxen ibex]

Ground skating is a completely different thing that works on flat ground

[coral cedar]

Yes

Yes because i can backwards skate but i am thinking, i an not off edge so how is this allowed

But i go off edge for like 1 second so then i guess it counts

[waxen ibex]

I don't know the specifics but basically you almost instantly lose the eager edge momentum when on a floor because of the game trying to clamp you to the max sprint speed

[coral cedar]

All good dallagen

[waxen ibex]

While doing it off a ledge keeps it long enough for the dive animation to cancel the sword attack

[coral cedar]

Yes

Most of this i know. I dont why i was just expecting someone to tell me the coding behind it or something

[waxen ibex]

I think the actual bug happening there is the dive animation canceling

[coral cedar]

Lol i am stupid

[waxen ibex]

Bungie knows how to fix it but they left it in

So we just have a reliable semi-instant animation cancel to do it with

[brittle osprey]

Was looking for an easy heavy add clear weapon like cynosure but haliaetus has cluster in the same column as auto-loading + not reconstruct, is there anything else new this season or should I just stick with the cynosure

[drifting plinth]

HEAVY ADDCLEAR CYNOSURE

[sudden egret]

Why are you using a rocket for ad clear?

[drifting plinth]

AHHH

OW

if you want to addclear with a heavy, please use an lmg

[marsh whale]

is that with over 100 melee though ?

[covert herald]

What’s the value for the two-piece set bonus for the Smoke Jumper set?

Is it any good?

[dark mango]

it starts at 45% dr and rapidly decays over 3s

arguably the best set bonus in the game rn

[cold dirge]

will not swap be on for contest mode?

[brave canyon]

We don’t know yet

[cold dirge]

is the likelihood high based on what they did for dp?

[neat lily]

Does spirit of necrotic work the same as necrotic grips in terms of the synergy with weapons of sorrow being able to spread poison too?

[brave canyon]

I’m not sure because it was rather controversial but I’m leaning towards expecting it to be back

[dark mango]

obviously we have no way of knowing but considering how they ignored complaints from rotn for dp and edp contest i imagine it will remain

[covert herald]

Oh cool. I should try get some good rolls of it perhaps. What specifically does it drop from?

Solo/fireteam ops?

[brave canyon]

Pretty much all portal activities

You’ll have no issues getting a bunch of them

[dark mango]

anything portal iirc, your best bet is to wait to farm until a piece shows up as a featured reward

since the pool is diluted with techsec

[covert herald]

I’ve gotten some pieces, they just all have bumps in the Health stat that seems not great lmao

Unless it’s good to have some Health?

[dark mango]

it does

[covert herald]

I don’t even know 😭

[dark mango]

you dont really need health in pve ever

[brave canyon]

Not for pve

[covert herald]

I was right then

[brave canyon]

This would be my notswap warlock support build and I would only have to drop down to 195 weapons since I’d have to switch to a minor mod and it’s all smoke jumper

I’d really like to farm a few aion pieces to have both of the set bonuses

[glad crag]

Im only gonna keep my techsec for my Saber builds. Glad the new set bonuses will be much broader

[brave canyon]

But I played probably a good ~50 hours of cabals watch since ash and iron and have good drops of smoke jumper for all 3 characters

[covert herald]

The base Aion set?

[brave canyon]

Adapter

That’s the ideal set bonus is 2 aion adapter 2 smoke jumper

[covert herald]

How do you get that again?

[drifting plinth]

mythic kepler something something

[brave canyon]

Kepler once you get T5 unlocked you can farm loot cave

[covert herald]

Ah right

I still haven’t done the mythic Kepler stuff rip

I tried one of the missions with some of the other mods here once and it was torture

[brave canyon]

And you can attune for that so if you have a few smoke jumper pieces first you can really maximize your time

I pretty much solo’d everything post buddy buff with getaway warlock

[marsh whale]

best exotic weapon to pair up with getaway artist ?

[brave canyon]

Nothing particularly synergizes with it specially

I’d just run the good old mint/yeartide/finality’s

[marsh whale]

what if i dont have yeartide

[brave canyon]

Mida mini

[near salmon]

does the class energy granted by speedloaders scale with dmg or just use gun with high rpm?

[jaunty whale]

There is one big difference though

necrotic grip damage over time scales higher the more time passes

the spirit version doesn't do this, it stays static

[dry gorge]

Nowadays with titan cuirass tcrash is it better to have higher weapons or super stat for raid dps

[marsh whale]

does last discipline not drop anymore ?

[rancid fern]

Wasn’t aware it had a source other than Zavala.

[marsh whale]

it only drops from zavala ?

[glad crag]

It does. I just got it from Clash

[steady skiff]

are there no craftable weapons anymore?

[cerulean sail]

No new ones aside from exotics

[marsh whale]

how do i do the heliostat elevator puzzle ?

[cerulean sail]

Something something catch up mechanic

[glad crag]

Bring the Psion to the right side. Look at the symbol on the back console and then interact with that same symbol on the left console

Getting it wrong will cause the radiation to trigger. Getting it right will lower the elevator

[simple silo]

im trying to get back in D2 and the latest expansion I own is light fall.. I plan to get renegades to get some recent content but do i need to get the final shape and edge of fate too>? what am I missing out other than the story?

[drifting plinth]

prismatic

[rancid fern]

Edge of fate you can skip, final shape is a must though.

[marsh whale]

where is the symbol ?

[glad crag]

the console on the other side of the elevator

its on the screen

[covert herald]

Did Bungie say there’s a way to increase tiers of things in Renegades?

[tulip oar]

No, they said it's coming w/ Shadow & Order

[covert herald]

Oh right. Was it just weapons or armour or?

[rancid fern]

Weapons

[waxen ibex]

Just weapons

[fading trench]

I heard destiny 2 about to be fire again. I quit once they released that 450 power grind thing

Should i come back or still the same

[jaunty whale]

the power grind is still there but it's much easier now

dlc is coming next tuesday, it's a heavily star wars inspired dlc

[fading trench]

And any new dlcs dropped or dropping soon?

[fading trench]

Oh nice. Iwill get back on destiny

[waxen ibex]

The dlc coming in like 4 days lol

[fading trench]

Power gonna reset or nah? Cause i don't wanna get on now and grind then my stuff reset in 4 days

[jaunty whale]

nope

they nixed that due to backlash

also there is a 300 power set just waiting for you at the tower

here's the trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqicEwg2qEc&pp=ygUbZGVzdGlueSAyIHJlbmVnYWRlcyB0cmFpbGVy

[fading trench]

Oh nice. Tysm for the info iwill download it again now

[waxen ibex]

Power reset gone and the power grind itself is basically dead

[jaunty whale]

it's still there, just much easier

[fading trench]

That's actually the best thing they might have done

[jaunty whale]

basically don't have to "grind" , can just casually play to get to max level

[waxen ibex]

They way buffed the power grind pretty quickly and the last 3 months has been people larping that the power grind is awful and slow ever since

Meanwhile it's maybe 15 hours to go 300-550 lol

[main flower]

So my titans in just the legendary stats are
health - 112
Strength - 200
Grenade - 76
Super - 57
Int - 17 or 27
Weapon - probably 37 or 67 or ??
And this is just all legendary armor I have. So any tips??

[jaunty whale]

what kind of build are you planning to make, stats alone don't tell the whole story

[main flower]

Just trying to make a build for renegades

Something that uses the brawler archetype

Oh and its on prismatic

So might use stoicism

[jaunty whale]

brawler is not good because health is a dump stat

go for paragon

[main flower]

Got it. Brawler dumb paragon good

So build for melee, super, and what ever the third option is?

[jaunty whale]

generally you want grenade

third option is randomly selected everytime you roll the armor

you're going to want to look for ones that give grenade

[waxen ibex]

So you want a prismatic melee build?

Or what

[forest furnace]

How did people even come up with these builds honestly

[waxen ibex]

Well anyway if you're wanting melee build on prismatic consecration is still very strong

[forest furnace]

All these different builds is getting me confused in general

[waxen ibex]

Exotic class item is probably not worth it on consecration anymore as well

Wormgod is too broken

[waxen ibex]

Like what

[forest furnace]

Everything

[waxen ibex]

Idk I think most build paths are somewhat obvious

[forest furnace]

Just started destiny 2 yesterday

[waxen ibex]

What part of the builds is confusing you

[forest furnace]

The ability set up atm

[jaunty whale]

you basically gradually pick up parts of the game mechanics as you play and slowly piece them together and test it out

you have to remember the people who put these builds have hundreds of hours in the game

[forest furnace]

So far im halfway through the final shape campaign

[covert herald]

Do Zavala’s weapon rolls stay the same all week?

[forest furnace]

Is there a certain stat i should focus on for the time being?

[waxen ibex]

Like on prismatic? Which class

[forest furnace]

Warlock

[jaunty whale]

it really depends on what build you're making, generally it's a safe bet to invest in grenade/melee/super

[forest furnace]

Don't know which one I should go for currently

Im using a random setup that I made ingame personally

[waxen ibex]

Prismatic warlock has the grenade focused option and the melee focused option right now for builds

[jaunty whale]

if you need one to get started i think go for getaway artist prismatic build

once you get that set up then you can explore other builds

[waxen ibex]

The grenade focused option wasn't good until a recent buff to a few different warlock turrets to scale from grenade stuff

Melee focused option is pretty obvious thanks to prismatic having lightning surge and the strand melee

[jaunty whale]

i recommend it because there's not much to the build, just eat grenade and do whatever

the other builds typically have gameplay loops

[waxen ibex]

And the exotic class items allow warlock to just have syntho which is historically the best general melee buffing exotic and was always titan exclusive before prismatic

Idk I think if you just look at all the options it usually is at least somewhat obvious what ones are good, hard part is just being familiar with a lot of stuff I guess

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/edit?usp=drivesdk

Data compendium helps

Since a lot of stuff is really vague about what it does

[jaunty whale]

yeah data compendium is a great resource but one thing at a time

for starters just focus on setting up the getaway build and use that as a springboard to explore game mechanics and options

[forest furnace]

Alright thanks

So in other terms I need to finish the final shape no matter what

[worn dew]

So I downloaded the game after a few months and I haven’t been caught up. Can someone tell me if my weapons are weaker now since my power level is 10 for some reason

[waxen ibex]

if you dont do a campaign fully the subclass tied to it will probably be ass

[marsh whale]

difference between A+ and just A ?

[waxen ibex]

tfs is unique in even giving you prismatic on the first mission

lightfall just switches you to strand temporarily in the missions and doesnt give you the subclass until the end

[waxen ibex]

power has never been tied to the strength of gear

[worn dew]

Well what’s different then

[waxen ibex]

they just did a number squish with this year

10 power now is the same as max power in tfs year

[marsh whale]

when i do A in portal it says 479, but when i go A+ it still says 479, so is there any reason to go A+ ?

[forest furnace]

I see. Ill finish it up today then

[waxen ibex]

numbers are smaller gamewide but numbers relative to eachother are the same as before

[forest furnace]

Just 17 more steps to go

[waxen ibex]

it's not even really a new thing

every expansion was basically a power reset already

[worn dew]

So everything is the same basically

[waxen ibex]

yea

if the content existed before this year power is just disabled in it

since the baseline now is basically higher than those content ever capped at anyway

and power scaling over an activity's power was nearly always disabled

[tawdry copper]

Is solo ops still fastest way to PL grind or is there a better way

I just have 142 more light levels to go but solo seems pretty meh now

[fluid surge]

Do I need to do encore on a certain level to get choir of one to drop

[sudden egret]

activities with bonus drops and/or reclaim

[sudden egret]

harder has a better chance

[fluid surge]

Ok I wasn’t sure if it was a chance drop or guaranteed

[sudden egret]

better grade also helps

[fluid surge]

Alr tyty

[tawdry copper]

I prob wont even make it to 550 before new expansion so I wonder what it will be like in a couple of days

[covert herald]

I only just got to 450 lmao

[bitter osprey]

im making a Helm of Saint 14 titan build should i run collective obligation or graviton lance

[sudden egret]

lance

but check back next week after co gets buffed

[tawdry copper]

higher than me brotha lol >_< I am only 410 now

[forest furnace]

I just got to 305 today

[rancid fern]

A+ was really only so you could get T5 as soon as 451.

[rancid fern]

Without the Techsec chest?

Because 300 is the new 10, so you only gained 5 power since EoF?

[turbid talon]

Part of it is definitely knowing the game and balance and meta, which simply comes with time and experience. But a good starting point to making your own build - disregarding how meta it may be - is to take a piece of Exotic armour - not weapon - and building around that piece of armour.

That way you've got a really good direction. Perhaps it's a grenade Exotic. Focus on grenade mods, grenade Fragments, grenade Aspects.

Exotic armour is the core to 95% of builds.

[tawdry copper]

except for the some of the really try hard streamers lol >_< who only use purple stuff. Esp with PvP

[tawdry copper]

But ideally this is the best advice I will admit. def something someone taught me once

[cerulean sail]

so the 5%

[tawdry copper]

Sure. I do not know the exact number but there is a lot of players (Esp on Youtube I have watched) That have builds with zero exotics. Maybe an exotic weapon

[cerulean sail]

throwing perchance

[tawdry copper]

I am not discrediting the advice Mae gave though. Esp sincce that was what was taught to me

I am still learning how to play my Warlock TBH and I am not even playing any new Meta Warlock build

[waxen ibex]

huh

this is only a thing in pvp as of very recently because of the stat system

[cerulean sail]

oh true

[waxen ibex]

exotics have shitty stat totals and hunter especially in pvp does not have many impactful exotics

[tawdry copper]

I actually have seen it for a while but again I am not saying it is what to do

[waxen ibex]

like historically hunter's most popular pvp exotic has always been stompies

bungie managed to make stompies irrelevant recently

and stompies only ever made you sprint faster and jump higher really

so now hunter with no exotic armor is fine and has better base cooldowns

[forest furnace]

EoF?

[cerulean sail]

can't have a neutral exotic that doesn't do much of anything be used anywhere

[waxen ibex]

its still big on console because of the jump height tbf

but the sprint part literally doesnt work anymore

[cerulean sail]

because of console turning speed

and true it is still the bad player jumping puzzle crutch

[waxen ibex]

they gave hunter that sprint speed buff and it doesnt stack with stompies and is exactly the same speed

which is the funniest fucking thing

[forest furnace]

That reminds me, is there a way to speed up console turn speed?

[cerulean sail]

surely you can change your sensitivity in settings

[forest furnace]

...

I didnt think of that...

[waxen ibex]

ngl though i dont think using no exotic on hunter is worth it

dragons shadow and rdm are both cracked still and worth more than 25 stat points

rdm especially is insane in this chud void hunter meta

gives you infinite dodge uptime and doesnt scale off class stat

[tawdry copper]

Edge of FAte

[waxen ibex]

so you can fully dump class and pump all your other cooldowns

[tawdry copper]

I am still trying to figure out what exotic good for PvP It seems like Void where it at for lock right now in PvP

[waxen ibex]

eh warlock is genuinely viable on all the subclasses in pvp

i dont think any one subclass is irrelevant in pvp for warlock

maybe arc

[broken forge]

turn off aim ramp up if its a setting

so instead of slowly speeding up your aim to the setting you have, its always at the setting

[jaunty whale]

is there a better way to get glimmer fast lol other than public events with the mod

[waxen ibex]

public events eclipse everything else

[jaunty whale]

noted

[dry gorge]

whats the power delta for grandmaster conquests

[jaunty whale]

it's -30 right