#☀️off-topic-discussion
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Baruuk
new incarnons?
Who's the dude on the left?
oh god
dante deluxe
dante
TIGRIS
tigris
INCARNON
What the fuck, Dante looks.mad
TIGRIS INCARNON?
should I cop a tigris prime tomorrow?
i like the dante skin but i also like tigris incarnon
Not sold on the baruuk skin tho
it does absolutely nothing lmao, it force procs magnetic
and even when it doesnt it still applies the debuff
yea but u gonna remember that we are fighting on what gets added
they can do that?
I did guilty once and I was like no thanks
damn
we have
dante and vectis
and
baruuk and tigris
rn
Skill issue or something
Even if you have arcane nullify it still does have a force ability negation
so you can get hit by an attack, not get a magnetic proc it still locks abilities
yes
the wave attack anyways
Ill probably try the guilty later, those fights always play the same so im in no rush
why are they talking about how mother runs a fast food restaurant
all that for like 10 of the material and an arcane is wild work
Wow
eh it's a hard mode boss
10 of the material?
It should be giving a whole artifact ngl
glyph flex for all 7 people that care
I personally don't like the "secret" bosses, I did vor and that's the easiest one apparently
It feels fucking awful to do
When the endgame flex is an endgame flex 
yeah this mode is just kinda shit
do it once for the funnies and never touch it again
Are you sure you actually like warframe
Everytime I see you discussing it you sound miserable
its like
all 3 perita rebellion bosses with a respective "buff" to them
its enjoyable when it doesnt suck
I mean the endgame fights in my opinion are pretty rubbish
So that's a no
That is how warframe presents itself
You aren't ever happy either
im very happy actually, i can just voice my opinions on shit i dont like in a game i do like
People just dont play good games so I dont get to be positive
Like forced ability negation is cooked and having to do a copy paste shield gating build is not fun
how did that guy just guess what the grineer are
like the dreadful design choices de has been making
I can talk about morrowind for 3 hours but nobody will enjoy that 
Where my abiotic factor players at fr
OH MY GOD I HAVE SHOPPING IN 40 MINUTES. THIS DOG NEEDS TO GET OFF THE FUCKING ROOF
Spirtually aellan takes in this chat
yea
constant nullifiers is just hell
but then if there isnt one
one can just bring revenant and bam
all trivial
they make like 2 bad missions and everyone forgets the whole ass rest of the game they made
I am actually going to eat and skin this man
incarnon obex
ok
Didn't they fix them a day later
i am aware that its just a silly little haha mode
with no real rewards tied to it
What's the best tigris btw?
No hate is more forced than warfrane hate
If tigris incarnon is coming I should cop one
If we're getting an incarnon the difference is marginal
I hate on warframe because they keep putting damage attenuation on things
Not anymore thankfully
Who is the host? He looks familiar
any other shotgun
Games still mid
completely separate but what would you consider a good game
Highguard
💀
Duh tigris rn is mid but I hope the incarnon makes it cracked
Nice 
Gimme
truth nuke
or like did they reveal the new incarnons, im not tapped into the stream
We just know it's coming
Local man discovers purpose of incarnons
a world premiere
stug incarnon
I mean it kinda depends on the genre. Ive got a lot of stuff I loved. I played a shitload of civ V, of darksiders, of payday 2, of borderlands, of NMS.
Realistically Ive played a lot of warframe as well, I just dont really enjoy the more modern era of it as much
5 incarnons
4 confirmed ones
while 2 teams are fighting between vectis and tigris
If you want a really general answer, I can describe it as soul, but it's kinda meaningless
1 confirmed is the obex
liking old warframe and not new warframe is kind of insane
The good ol days of launch railjack and getting mad that players are using subsumed roar
interesting
It's more of me being an old ass and not really enjoying the more complicated building involved. I dont think it's bad, I just don enjoy it that much
the only time i think soul is removed in a game is when its put through a remake tbh
take me back to the wukong bramma afk meta
Buildcrafting hasnt really changed much in recent years
Its just new variants of old mods
Like bluepoint demon souls
I do have a capacity to think a game is good even if I dont enjoy it. Rdr2 comes to mind
or re3/re2 remake
you didnt like rdr2?
was it the level design
i almost said "archon shards" and then i realized the frame that came out with them is the next without a prime
Less about soul being removed and just nevr being added in the first place
the original games had soul, the remakes rip them away
is that a pirate ship in soulframe
And even then those arent anywhere near being central to a build, they just elevate whats already there
what is going on over there
there are some exceptions, ff7 "remake" is basically a new game
The super slow pace was an issue. I dont enjoy sitting in a glorified cinematic because we have to travel 10 minutes for a mission. The terrible horse controls and pretty bad shooting feels werent great. The story and general gameplay didnt really pull me in much
rdr2 felt more like an interactive movie at times
I liked the world and how it worked, and it was fun kinda just running around, but i didnt really enjoy interacting with it
another incarnon
id give a lot of money to be able to experience it for the first time again tho, pure kino
destreza
Destreza incarnon is huge
you know what game should be experienced for the first time blindly
outer wilds @sleek kraken
I like games requiring me to do 3 hour sessions, but rdr2 was too much empty for not enough stuff going on into those sessions
What incarnons are confirmed?
Peak mention?
incarnon 2
destrezza
Oh outer wilds was an absolute banger, i have a taroo of the eye of the universe
Taroo
obex and destrezza rn
Mid weapon type and cringe weapon
ngl stream is like
I think rapiers are lame
really? i always found stuff to do in my sessions via the world itself and all the side content
pretty boring
Nightmare pizza
the bit of them being clueless got old 15 minutes ago
nevertheless
am gonna whatch anyways cuz no one else in the server i am in is going to so am gonna be the news guy💀
posting here too is just an extra
Rest in peace quiznos
Ballistica incarnon
Not my favorite weapon but id love for that to change
one more game and it's halfway through the stream
Oooooh
STUG
STUG INCARNON
STUG INCARNON
STUG INCARNON
ITS REAL
called it
I sold mine long ago 
they better make it busted
oh boi i gonna build one now
yaay
incarnon mode stug fires thermonuclear warheads
He's just fallen off the roof the moron
"he has a rhino horn" megan that's excal not rhino
Idk i just felt like there was some sort of sticking to a realism that really got in the way of actual gameplay. Theres so many dead moments in between enjoyment that it just didnt feel great.
I dont mind games that require me to put 3 hours minimum per session, but you should make sure something is going on, not just 40-50% dead air
Deadass?
deadass
Oh shi
stug incarnon
I guess the bigger thing I dont get with rdr2 is how it got such wide acclaim when the design is, to me, so against the player in so many situations
has been confirmed
I knew I was correct to keep my stug
Finally
It can be the best weapon in the game
i have the image but cant post images
you do you
Are you serious
Like honestly yeah, maybe my horse turning like a racecar wouldnt have been realistic, but at some point in game design you give up some realism to make way for gameplay enjoyment
stug incarnon mode is that it just turns into the torid
yes
Honestly it would be peak
i can dm
modern gamedesign is all about realism, cant have convenient designs
i dont think its against the player at all, vast open world with lots of variety and stuff to do across the map, the only criticism i have with the game is that the actual story levels all have essentially the same formula
There are like 15 cops outside and now ambulance as this dog fell off the roof
I've been up since fucking 4 in the morning
I fully agree with you on the variety and activities, it's not where my issues lie
I fucking hate schitzs dogs
so rn we have
obex
destreza
ballistica
and stug
how nice
What im saying isnt that the activities arent fun, it's that the parts around it arent
Tigris as well
It's too much time spent in auto run on a horse, too much time traveling to X and Y and then back to X
Game is almost 10 years old btw
It's too much that feels like filler in a game filled with life
i was talking about rdr2 my boy
Game is almost 10 years old btw
not yet
its still between vectis and that
shut up
warframe is actually over 10 years old
they literally are on their 13th annyversary
Warframe is technically like 20 years old if we're counting all the shit its gone through as dark sector and all that
Yeah
But warframe as we know it is 13
we are in the 13 anniversary celebration rn
Yeah the release date must be round that
This is a big gripe btw. If you make me go to a place, to then auto travel 10 minutes, and still have the gall to make me endure the whole travel back afterwards with no content, that just sucks
Im not tiktok brained or w/e, but dog just make a 2m cinematic and let's get to doing shit
Rdr2 needs 5000 ubisoft collectibles
Collect the 250 rare herbs across the map to cure uncles lumbago and get a cool hat
Dont strawman the argument
rdr2 needs a dynamic disease system to really nail the western setting
i feel like the problem here is perspective
i feel like the point is that youre not meant to go immediately back to X in this scenario, they space the content out on the map to the point where theres p much always something that can catch your eye, kinda like “oh i just finished A and have to go back to B, but i could definitely do C along the way and maybe even D”
why is there a bonus round
more wasted time
its like breath of the wild or cyberpunk in that regard, just A to B back to A is gonna make you feel less enjoyment as youre not doing other things in the downtime between B and A
youre not metaphorically stopping to smell the roses
now that i think about it
with these new incarnons
i guess its time to go to the hell that is the circuit again
yeeeee
also its a sandbox game, if you start getting bored just go and shoot someone
i thought the music was for narmer for a moment
But Sean my honor!
Mount!
go fish
I could actually
bam
When are you starting ff15
i have 4 more endings in nier dawg
HEIRLOOM
Man
MESA
https://fxtwitter.com/_preser/status/2037758351749111835 @empty estuary

What
oh my god
every skin he makes liger pushes the limits of how much we can discuss warframe in here
mesa heirloom
mesa heirloom
Oh
made by liger
Yeah lol
yay dante won
who won
What the hellraiser
Wait
sadly no tigris
team dante won
dante deluxe and vectis incarnon confirmed
Im not watching thr stream
rip tigris incarnon
FUCK
lmao
Are we getting Mesa heirloom next? Or is it just concept possible art
more news on tennocon
its coming
prime time
PRIME
its made by liger, and hes a de employee
Uh oh
stynax
Voruna Prime
Please voruna, I actually play her
VORUNA
ima go back to sleep wake me up when its hype
voruna?
if you know what he did before being at de it uhhh explains a lot
voruna
Woah voruna in 1999
Fuck yes
Thats a lore implication and a half
?
well wasn't voruna involved in some void stuff on the moon
YOOOO
YOOO
damn
Crawling voruna fucking finally dude
WHAAAA
ayo
DOOM ETERNAL
i assume voruna rework is coming with this
what
WHA
WHAT
Damn slimed out
SO VICTOR IS DEAD?
Predator style
OFF SCREEN DEATH
HOLY SHIT
Dude voruna prime looks fucking awsome
prime access has a sumdali of all things
Fitting
ok
voruna prime on the 8th
Dude is so annoying
Yeah that was a nothingburger stream
we know there's an april stream too
But holy fuck that trailer
i think they just wanted to do one in pax
Steve wasn't kidding
Voruna 4th is finally her on all fours like an actual dog
so recap
incarnons
obex
destreza
ballistica
stug
and vectis
deluxe
just dante
heirloom
mesa
and prime
voruna
no we're getting baruuk deluxe too
in the next update
later but yea
and tigris incarnon in the future
no in this one
i wouldnt mind circuit if they diversified it more
i like the bit sized mission rush kinda deal
its just too little in the pool
man i cant wait for mesa heirloom, i love the demon cowboy theme
true
right
1999 and all
goo gun in warframe finally gets better?
mayhaps
It's uh
I'll buy it that's for sure

I do hope they go the vauban route and give her a jacket toggle but i love the vibes
Welp I guess I gotta build a new Stug
ah right
with voruna prime theres also perigale and sarofang prime
eh
i guess they exist
more mr fodder
Almost SHD 200
I wanna do the incursion but idk if im in the mood to mess with lfgs today
Also lfg for incursions is pretty much dead
@cold musk the amount of random shit on screen when i use this thing is wild
Possible but not happening for me
You on PC?
Yup
Wouldn't mind running it with you sometime if you want
Aight

paradise lost?
yup

good luck
the opening is a pain in the ahh
i'll be counting opening as encounter 1
encounter 1 is a pain
encounter 2 is fairly easy
encounter 3 is easyish but needs good coordination
encounter 4 is harder than 3 and still needs good coordination
all being said it is/was possible to cheese the opening with a skill build centered around oxi chem but i never managed to figure out the lineup 
which one of these best to subsume?
rhino then protea
(fyi you cant subsume primes)
that aswell
i know
hildryn 3rd probably

zephyr's pretty alright
not sure i want 30% dmg boost that much for now
idk what u would use volts for
ill subsume grendel when i get it
hildryn, rhino or protea 
im thinking ill actually get protea first
explain pls
do u know what a specter is
not really
spawnable allies
specters are ai versions of frames that fight for you
and how do i make those?
so u can have a protea just casting dispensary around u
if ur a new player probably not something ur honestly gonna have alot of
theyre annoying to farm from what i remember
i think theyre spy or rescue mission rewards?
ah, both mission types i hate
i was running dispensary on alot of my frames before i discovered that
volts subsume with the augment is great for forcing elec damage, which can be massively useful for more diverse melee influence builds
rn my specter is nokko for extra strength and funny mushrooms
also good for other certain electricity based synergies
the augment has some uses
if you need elec for some reason
idk how up to date it is 
its better than the corrupted bombard
how do i subsume protea?
i am in room
actually
looking for button
toss them in the chair
send a screen shot
🤔
did u buy the item u have to craft and slot
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2989166470
i think this it up to date
from deimos
ip grabber

yes i did
i try to keep my flowers the default colors so i can remember them
i think you need to level it up before you can actually subsume frames
you gotta feed him a bunch

ptsd from that
yeah you need rank 1
basically just put on the cheapest ability and take it off and feed, repeat
expedite suffering lavos 
people here have played stardew right
any advice for a totally fresh install who definitely didn't try it years ago and then forgot it was in my library
marry shane
honestly idk anything about the game
my aunt apparently has like 8k hours in the game
wow that's a lot
yeah but if you marry him, you can get blue chickens
the most my aunt has ever played a game is tetris on the wii
what does that provide me
a really cool looking chicken
i'm like literally day 5 right now man idk what's going on
i dont even have normal chickens
by the time you marry someone you will defintely be able to have chickens
the biggest tip of all in stardew is just take your time and have fun
you dont have to rush anything, optimize or any of that
literally just turn brain off and play the game
oough i hate having to provide for myself
i need instructions fed to me through a hampster water bottle
youll be ok
hamster

hamer
her

NO, that's not a filter! ☁️🔴 The sky turned an eerie shade of red in Western Australia as dust filled the air ahead of Tropical Cyclone Narelle.
Arachne weather
The purge fr
i am now in possesion of a gold misriah

Torn on if i should div 2 some more or maybe do some WoW stuff
Brother I read this completely out of context and was quite confused
division 2 is deffo a game you shouldnt play 24/7. play in short bursts
60hrs and im shd watch 8

so basically youre like 10% done
i did try wony on realism for a smidge
shd effectively caps at 2k
and then you got your builds, recalibration, optimization, prototype gear

have fun
more buildcrafting?

this is what i left d2 for

says ursa, as they play warframe
unless its significantly changed last i remember strikers with st elmos was still real competitive
coyotes mask, 4 pc strikers (with backpack), 1 pc ceska with obliterate and saint elmos
someday i’ll get with the terminology as i have with destiny
however black tusk has just undone all my work
coyotes mask is an exotic mask
strikers is a gearset that gives more damage on hits
ceska is a brandset (brandsets give bonuses for 1, 2 and 3 pieces. gearsets go up to 4 pieces with the 4th unlocking the main draw for them)
It effectively caps at 1k

2k is just health which genuinely means nothing
Because enemy damage scales so exponentially that you die instantly anyway
You either take zero damage or instantly get vaporized
That health will never make a difference

1k for stat allocations
2k for health
inf for scav points
while health isnt the most important its still an an effective reward
i remember back in ye ole when scav points were per char rather than account wide

That health still just doesn't do anything though I'm not wrong about that
your missions will get invaded on a weekly basis. dont worry too much
and this is good for general info and builds
welp my info on the build was out of date

a little*
4 pc strikers with backpack
overdogs exotic gloves
equalizer named chest
Farm your gear through retaliations instead of countdown if possible so you can work on the blueprints too
if u can decipher anything out this rainbolt style
along with more weapons to feed to the tinkering station
PRAISE STUG
What are you asking?
build decent for now?
the way i look at it
it’s just a mish mosh of equal amounts of weapons armor and skill
i’ll sink some time in finding something actually somewhat cohesive in the near future
thinking of trying heartbreaker when rng is kind to me for a 4th piece
I mean rn youre very much a mixup of sets and not what id call a coherent hybrid build
Imo pick a direction to go.
Generally people go full red core with critical hit chance/critical hit damage
Alternatively you could go with a full red headshot damage build but thats more niche and not always effective
the last milestone build did suffice for a while
also
is there anything similar to destiny’s infusion concerning gear?
No
aw
Once you break into shd levels all gear is pretty much the same
I mean... Yes? Once you're max level there's nothing like gear score
Youll start getting mostly high end, gearset and sometimes exotics
And recalibration/optimization technically lets you upgrade anything to max stat rolls
Thats not really like infusion tho
Infusion is level. Recal/opti is stats and talents
Recalibration is kind of the same concept although it has the stat library now as an intermediate
In y1 of div2 there was no library so you were directly deleting one gear piece to upgrade another
Imo theyre very muxh different but to each their own
I think you're arguing semantics and have no whimsy but what do I know
All aside yeet stuff you dont need into recal library
There is a sub 40 library but youre not sub 40 so dw
Theres also expertise which is nice to get a headstart on but dont go insane over it
Imo the course for gear you dont need should be
Recal library -> expertise (unless you direly need materials) -> scrapping -> selling
Basically yeah
@vale pendant also take a gander at the builds section of the spreadsheet i sent.
some notable builds are:
sniper setups (kinda niche but very good)
strikers build
negotiators dilemma-general use
tipping scales
ongoing directive
i like tiping scales, strikers, snipers and ongoing.
ongoing is especially nice in teamplay since the gearset gives everyone hollowpoint ammo (bleed ammo) on death of a marked enemy
tipping scales looks to be plan no.2
playing with others isn’t in said plan
game pass required sadly
Sometimes I do things and I wonder what the fuck was I thinking when I get the consequences of my actions 😭
Humans should've evolved with the ability to see the future at least a day or two ahead in terms of potential outcomes of actions
And not "oh this might happen", I mean you see EXACTLY what will happen

have you not seen the rick and morty episode with the death stone of whatever its called
oh just in general
Wait is that the episode where Morty had that rock in his head?
ah. basically ||rick and morty go farming for stones, morty keeps one and crashes the ship killing rick, he wants to die in his ideal way (with jessica (his crush)) so he just does questionable actions but eventually his bubble is burst when he overhears jessica saying about the situation he forsees but its not in the context he thought||

Ohh
imo tho go for tipping since its still lmg and afaik give better damage
Man, I really did binge that entire show
Having no responsibilities during the summer as a high schooler was awesome
also no matter what you do, DO NOT use ninja bike backpack. its pretty much just a trap for noobs. yes the talent sounds good but you lose out more than you gain
Now I'm adult and have to work as a legal slave for a corporation until I die because a bunch of old people decided I don't get to retire
we also got a new invincible season 
I'm not gonna watch it until all the episodes are out
oh nvm i misread your message 
Same with SBR, I won't let myself get rage baited again
whars sbr?
Steel ball run
I've been avoiding all news about it
Part 7 of jojos bizarre adventure
ah
Some of the coolest stands come from part 7, cough cough... D4C
i havent watched a single full ep of jojos. only seen clips every now and again
If you don't care for the story, at least check out the stand abilities
Some of them are pretty awesome
There's one that makes people rapidly age based on how warm they are
And another that basically gives you a super plague if the user is on higher elevation than you
me on everest 
I think there's a radius limit
"curse of ra be upon ye"
I haven't gone super in depth into the stands despite being a huge fan of the series
So I don't remember every "niche" ability, but the ones I do remember are pretty nutty
There's one that kills you if someone looks at your back. I think the stand killed its own user too.
ye ive seen a clip abt that one
The stands of main villains are always straight bs though. Imagine fighting some priest that goes from being able to steal your stand and memories, to being able to invert gravity, then finally having the ability to accelerate time to the point the universe goes "fuck it, I quit" and resets.

i see no links between the abilities. if there were you could argue "stand evolution" but nah
The link is there if you watch the show
Pucci's stand evolutions were entirely bullshit. Especially made in heaven. How the fuck does your stand go from "teehee up is sideways now" to "oh wow, I'm in very specific coordinates right now! Let me turn into a centaur and pull a flashpoint paradox!"
I read stone ocean and watched the anime adaptation, but to this day I think that was a card pulled straight out of digimon in terms of ability changes.
Well if you read dios diary
Ascending to heaven for a stand is one mf of an achievement
I don't read peoples diary, that's invasion of one's privacy 
made in heaven uses c-moons concept of gravity but on a much grander scale
gravity tying in to acceleration and making things faster
Yeah but it went from a green thing to a god damn horse man
That makes no sense at all
That's like my toaster evolving into prime John Cena
Echoes went from a lizard thing to a dude
That makes sense because we have the ninja turtles
They went from regular turtles to a group of dudes
As Crimson Desert players make their way further into the game, they’re coming to understand some of its more puzzling design choices. Chief among them is that creature mounts other than your horse are not permanent. And while the coveted endgame dragon is a permanent addition, its use has a 15 minute real-time time limit, and then a 50 minute...
Videogames using SBMM are stressful and discourage play
I don't think D2 uses this
but many other games the track stats from accuracy, W/L, and K/D I will not trust anymore
em, this channel is for non-destiny topics
They push you to your limit only to make things boring when you have to keep using a meta and winning the same garbage over and over
How does skill based discourage play
and ontop of this they pair you into games where ping is atrocious where sometimes you get opponents with 150-200ms ping
also you should ask the average/below average players
if they like being stomped every game
because you get stuck 50% in a deadzone where you cannot win anything bigger that requires more effort when you are already at your limit
then it becomes sheer luck
a coin toss
Don't suck lol
which is gambling, not skill
Ez win
what is wrong with just losing if you don't want to sweat that much?
i never have an issue with sbmm because there is no one better than me
i havent played marathon since like the day b4 cryo opened
My rook will be armed and dangerous
That is not how that works, you are already at your limit of capability but then circumstance comes into play, it's above this where even ping effects your play because you are already at your limit of capable skill and play where every match starts to feel sweaty and not relaxing
You say this like games dont consider connection at all
You cannot experiment with loadouts and if you want to be the best you are required to use the same meta as others that is OP and needs to be nerfed to balance other guns to get fresh mixes of experimentation
cryo rook sponsor kit when
Well thats not true
You also have to deal with the game fighting against you to keep you at 50%
crimson desert has honestly got me hooked atleast till i explore every region and kill most of the bosses
higher than 50%, 52% you lose streak, 48% you win streak and stomp
What game
It discourages play as a main account, encourages smurfing and cheating to beat against odds mechanisms that are designed to keep you stationary instead of climbing a ladder
The game with sbmm
chess?
you can experiment with loadouts. you just have to be okay with losing while you gain mastery over the new loadout
That one specific sbmm that all the games use, THE sbmm
the problem is people expect to win while experimenting with new stuff at the same skill level
which is unrealistic lol
An MX5 SMG over top of a AK5
Wdym im not gonna roll people the same playing something new
Real battle irl is not balanced skill
Thats just ridiculous
No shit it's drone Warfare
How is real battle not being balanced skill ridiculous?
wtf
Go fight a toddler irl or something if you want unbalanced fights then
Wait real battle like irl or is that a game
Why are we comparing irl to pixels
WHY ARE YOU COMPARING REAL LIFE to a game that's supposed to be not serious
Because SBMM should not exist
It should but okay
Especially in casual gamemodes
if sbmm doesn't exist are you going to personally train new players?
Stops shit players from being dogged on and good players from getting into rubbish lobbies
or you watch your game die to people trying and getting stomped, then quitting?
Ill get good or quit trying
If your discouraged from playing against people from your skill level I think you suck at games icl
Clearly you do :)
Sounds like you do
maybe you don't but your attitude certainly isn't the one of a learner
Nobody good at games complains about playing against people of their skill
You are jumping to assumptions now because you do not know me or how I play
the one legitimate complaint is the connection one but that typically doesn't happen unless player pools are very small
You are sat in a destiny discord complaining about sbmm
I will continue to push my debate and perspective that SBMM is a bad idea
usually the problem with sbmm systems is the parameters used for calculating skill, not the idea itself
Cryo why are you Humphry now
Actually destiny has been pretty ok, if it is SBMM it's loose enough to allow some winnage
Youd be more upset playing against people better then you all the time
skill issue
done and dusted
Not quite, I do not tolerate games fucking with my gameplay by matching me with people that are 200ms ping
this is not fundamentally an sbmm problem
What game are you playing where this is happening
Halo infinite, 8 ball pool
that is a parameter problem
Pay 2 win shit
Halo infinite too
Are you serious?
8 ball bro are you fucking serious
LMAO
Fucking 8 ball?
Also isn't halo infinite like kinda dead?
bro just go play 8 ball at your local rec center
Halo infinite is pretty good
Nope, it's still going, people are playing multiplayer in halo infinite
I didn't like It
Just took too long to get there
The open world just wasn't it for me and no co op on launch dug the grave deeper
But it has a small playerbase so its no wonder connection issues are a complaint
no guys halo studios has to put all their time in the AMAZING halo CE remake!!!
but you are stuck with the same tight SBMM that makes you get incredible losing streaks
and bad ping
Well
Stop playing small games
If youre playing games like halo its no wonder
Thats not an sbmm problem
this isnt a fault of sbmm inherently, games like ow2 and its ranked employ sbmm based matchmaking and i consistently only get 20-30 ping
Its a playerbase problem
Voruna prime in twoish weeks
less of a pool to choose from --> picks people from further away --> ping issues
SBMM still tries to retain 50% and will manipulate against you to keep it at 50% which is not true to your real gameplay
That also isn't true
What the fuck
you get pushed into heavy sweat lobbies that are adderall spiked
??? things just tend towards the normal naturally
You dont know this
Idk why he referred to me as that
Oh but I do
But I'm the oh wise cryo kitty now
You make it or something?
I have 50% and pay attention to this
No, because different games use different parameters
Youre just making shit up
humans are notoriously bad at analyzing random chance and are wired to see patterns everywhere
Why do you think Halo WAypoint has a predicted death and kill ratio?
Predicted
and keeps you at 50% regardless
A 50% wr means you just aren't improving
you can take adderall and still retain 50%
no this guy won our gunfight so he must be cheating 
oh so thats why i won 7 out of my 10 placements
If youre spending mad money on peripherals and still losing you deserve it
Out of how many games lifetime?
Cause peripherals barely matter
if anything you are being egotistical in assuming you must be good enough to just keep high win ratios and assuming everybody else must play worse than you
^
^
If you only have a 50% winrate it means your gameplay hasn't improved and you are playing where you should be
im still laughing that this is over some damn 8 ball
Not quite, that too is an assumption
ya'll really like those
I am consistently sat at 50% regardless what I do
Some games do try to keep you in a certain win ratio but pretending this is some universal rule is weird
50% winrate is used over large scale player populaces to measure whether or not a character is balanced, not every single player has a 50% winrate balanced out
I could play for a month without working a job
it sounds like youre just not improving man
This is how sbmm works
you cannot improve when the game is rigged tight enough to keep you at 50%
And usually skilled players can break out of a games parameters if they are actually skilled enough
I have repeated this over and over
If you don't improve you aren't gonna have a more then 50% wr
this seems like crazy denial
if you get 58% you will lose streak
The mental gymnastics is crazy for a simple admission that you just suck
Nah if youre hardstuck at 50 youre just not improving
if you get 44% you will win streak
Full send
People be saying ANYTHING but "I need to improve"
come back with actual numbers on this and then some people might take you seriously
Fine then I suck at videogames, but videogames also suck with SBMM
Idrgaf about being the best player, I am sick of the coin toss mechancis
until then just cope and seethe that youre average at the game you hate sbmm in and youre whining and thrashing around instead of just accepting you need to get better
Then improve
trying to retain me at 50%
There is no coin toss mechanic
sbmm is kinda important to the longterm health of an multiplayer game
You are making this up to cope
"idgaf about being the best player" then why the fuck are you caring about winning games?
just play and goof around

None of you are listening
you arent listening to anyone but yourself
Youre the one contradicting yourself
This arguement is useless
The game isn't rigged, you aren't improving, you are coping and blaming it on some imaginary system so you can continue sucking at said game and bitching about it online
youre just thrashing around because you continue to blame the system for a made up winrate value that you insist is real
it's useless because you don't want to let go of your ego
you can think what you want but I'm not delusional and have played a months end paying attention to statistics
Show us
This is like fucking up your driving test 100 times because your doing the same stuff every time
I know what I'm noticing
Show me the statistics
Oh
If you understood the simple concept of what "skill based" was you'd know it's nobody but YOUR issue
im an above average player fry
No need to be rude
im not insecure about my winrates
but destiny 2 uses loose sbmm in qp and hard sbmm in comp
but do you know what you DON'T notice?
i'm always amazed by people who think only their perception matters
Nah i just thought you pulled out bros report and thought it was funny
so by this guy's logic, all 3 of my characters should have a lifetime 50% winrate
Shit players go against trial sweats all the time so the sbmm is pretty loose no?
lets tone it down a bit
an issue of player population more than anything else
i see were getting heated
But yeah, sbmm literally cant keep you hard stuck at 50, if you are thats just on you
Not even
IN EVERY SEASOJ
my bad lol
im just making sure you guys behave
Bottom 500
I wear that title with pride
yeah he got that title because hes plastic 5
Took me 99 games of the April fools mode for it
i still cant believe you actually did it
This new level cap on WoW feels so slow
EVERY. SINGLE. SEASON.
There is simply no excuse to blame sbmm
Yes I am just this good at ramattra btw
@vale pendantone thing i forgor to mention is div 2 is getting crossplay so if you ever get ps+ or xbox live (scams) you can play with us 
coming in like april
emphasis on if

i am very much a hater on the pay to play for online services in consoles
like you already pay for the internet

PS+ is like 20 bucks here
Thank fuck for pc
No longer a slave to monthly subscriptions to play the games I BOUGHT

At least only sony will have a paid service from now on
And nintendo but nintendos sub isnt too bad tbh
if they made it optional with the main benefit being the free game i'd be more happy with it
Nintendo at least doesnt try to price people out of their sub
but locking people out of multiplayer is ahhhhh

Voruna prime 
Ik where $80 is about to go
And the mesa heirloom
I'm about to be feasting
Wait mesa heirloom? Oh sht
Wait they remembered Dante is a frame n giving him a skin finally
lizard
@loud compass where tf is the sword
these S ranks in crossworlds are rough
im done with the Coral Cup now though
holy shit i locked in 2nd lap
whoever gifted me those protea mods this week, ty
sorry i dont remember your name but those mods are letting me do really well in lvl 100+
@blissful pagoda @weary silo either of you need a Bighorn? i have one that i can give away for the next 49 minutes
i just got two back to back from farming Summit room 10
rolls 1&2

i cant log in
IM SO GOATED
But i should farm bighorn
I never actually tried to farm for it
AH shit
I didnt finish farming the anniversary stuff
WHAT DO YOU MEAN 4 SECONDS AWAY 😭

Washed
Wait until next season for the black tusk retaliation
Isnt best farm floor 10 Dummit anyways
Not when black tusk retaliation just gives you the blueprint to craft it 
Although it's probably better to farm the ten floors
Would you like to farm it now so I have an excuse to get up and charge my phone

i cannot get the overdogs to drop
Can't remember if they added them to retaliation drop
they did
I am overseas
And wont be back until anniv event ends
Which i am realising
Its GG for me
Well hurry up
Because i didnt get to finish farming the free track
and i wanted the Kestrel armour set lmao
They'll bring it back for premium credits eventually 
Yeah I’m not buying that shit
Just a waiting game unfortunately
Think of it this way the more blueprints you get the more options you have for later builds
Reverse gaslight the game
Well after anniv event ends
Big Ale joins the general lootpool right? And the other named items?
Probably
Don't remember seeing what they were doing with them
Big ale is definitely the most sexiest gun I've used though
Honestly kinda upset it's so good because I loved my strega
It’s strong
But I’m upset that because Tipping Scales scales (hah) its damage by time spent firing instead of literally any other way, Big Ale isnt good on it otherwise you’ll run out of ammo just to maintain stacks
So it really is just strikerslop
You can keep your stacks from degrading if you suppress someone
Not too bad to upkeep
Suppressing is unfortunately finnicky
Seems fine to me
But I've been dealing with it for years, so iam probably use to it's jank
I am not
😭
But regardless, it should have more avenues of stacking
Like why does suppressing an enemy not just give a bump in the CHD and damage to begin with
Why is it only ‘stops decay’

As opposed to strikers "use the aa12"
Striker is way too good
It doesnt even decay that fast
its only fast when youre using chestpiece and the decay is from 200 to 100
It decays fast if you don't have a gun with a fast fire rate to help offset it when you aren't building stacks with the aa12
But holy shit tipping scales loses everything in like 3-4 seconds
oh would you look at that
Striker’s set bonus gives a 5% increase in rof

Which never really helped when using my strega
I mean it is a Rifle
I used dark winter prior to strega and pretty much anything with a fast fire rate already like dark winter or big ale will help with stacks
Im surprised i didnt try to farm and use it
dark winter my beloved

