#☀️off-topic-discussion

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round fable
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gotta get back on dante i guess

balmy mason
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Baruuk

round fable
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new incarnons?

wanton wasp
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Who's the dude on the left?

round fable
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oh god

round fable
empty estuary
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dante

balmy mason
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TIGRIS

round fable
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tigris

balmy mason
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INCARNON

wanton wasp
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What the fuck, Dante looks.mad

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TIGRIS INCARNON?

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should I cop a tigris prime tomorrow?

round fable
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i like the dante skin but i also like tigris incarnon

wanton wasp
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Not sold on the baruuk skin tho

olive steeple
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it does absolutely nothing lmao, it force procs magnetic

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and even when it doesnt it still applies the debuff

cedar lark
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yea but u gonna remember that we are fighting on what gets added

round fable
wanton wasp
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I did guilty once and I was like no thanks

round fable
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damn

cedar lark
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we have
dante and vectis
and
baruuk and tigris
rn

wanton wasp
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Skill issue or something

olive steeple
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i mean its whats happening

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the dactolysts just force it

wanton wasp
olive steeple
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so you can get hit by an attack, not get a magnetic proc it still locks abilities

olive steeple
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the wave attack anyways

empty estuary
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Ill probably try the guilty later, those fights always play the same so im in no rush

round fable
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why are they talking about how mother runs a fast food restaurant

olive steeple
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all that for like 10 of the material and an arcane is wild work

wanton wasp
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Wow

round fable
wanton wasp
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10 of the material?

round fable
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like the tank and the fragmented one

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not a farming thing

wanton wasp
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It should be giving a whole artifact ngl

olive steeple
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glyph flex for all 7 people that care

wanton wasp
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I personally don't like the "secret" bosses, I did vor and that's the easiest one apparently

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It feels fucking awful to do

empty estuary
olive steeple
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yeah this mode is just kinda shit

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do it once for the funnies and never touch it again

sleek kraken
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Everytime I see you discussing it you sound miserable

cedar lark
olive steeple
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its enjoyable when it doesnt suck

wanton wasp
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I mean the endgame fights in my opinion are pretty rubbish

sleek kraken
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So that's a no

vagrant summit
sleek kraken
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You aren't ever happy either

olive steeple
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im very happy actually, i can just voice my opinions on shit i dont like in a game i do like

vagrant summit
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People just dont play good games so I dont get to be positive

wanton wasp
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Like forced ability negation is cooked and having to do a copy paste shield gating build is not fun

round fable
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how did that guy just guess what the grineer are

olive steeple
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like the dreadful design choices de has been making

vagrant summit
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I can talk about morrowind for 3 hours but nobody will enjoy that CATGRIN

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Where my abiotic factor players at fr

wanton wasp
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OH MY GOD I HAVE SHOPPING IN 40 MINUTES. THIS DOG NEEDS TO GET OFF THE FUCKING ROOF

empty estuary
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Spirtually aellan takes in this chat

cedar lark
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yea
constant nullifiers is just hell
but then if there isnt one
one can just bring revenant and bam
all trivial

round fable
wanton wasp
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I am actually going to eat and skin this man

cedar lark
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incarnon obex
ok

sleek kraken
olive steeple
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with no real rewards tied to it

wanton wasp
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What's the best tigris btw?

empty estuary
wanton wasp
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If tigris incarnon is coming I should cop one

empty estuary
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If we're getting an incarnon the difference is marginal

sleek kraken
empty estuary
balmy mason
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Who is the host? He looks familiar

olive steeple
sleek kraken
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Games still mid

zinc coyote
zinc coyote
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💀

wanton wasp
balmy mason
wanton wasp
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Gimme

olive steeple
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or like did they reveal the new incarnons, im not tapped into the stream

balmy mason
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We just know it's coming

empty estuary
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Local man discovers purpose of incarnons

round fable
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a world premiere

olive steeple
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stug incarnon

vagrant summit
cedar lark
vagrant summit
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If you want a really general answer, I can describe it as soul, but it's kinda meaningless

cedar lark
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1 confirmed is the obex

round fable
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liking old warframe and not new warframe is kind of insane

empty estuary
vagrant summit
zinc coyote
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the only time i think soul is removed in a game is when its put through a remake tbh

round fable
empty estuary
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Buildcrafting hasnt really changed much in recent years

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Its just new variants of old mods

vagrant summit
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I do have a capacity to think a game is good even if I dont enjoy it. Rdr2 comes to mind

zinc coyote
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you didnt like rdr2?

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was it the level design

round fable
vagrant summit
zinc coyote
round fable
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is that a pirate ship in soulframe

empty estuary
round fable
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what is going on over there

zinc coyote
vagrant summit
# zinc coyote you didnt like rdr2?

The super slow pace was an issue. I dont enjoy sitting in a glorified cinematic because we have to travel 10 minutes for a mission. The terrible horse controls and pretty bad shooting feels werent great. The story and general gameplay didnt really pull me in much

olive steeple
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rdr2 felt more like an interactive movie at times

vagrant summit
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I liked the world and how it worked, and it was fun kinda just running around, but i didnt really enjoy interacting with it

round fable
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another incarnon

olive steeple
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id give a lot of money to be able to experience it for the first time again tho, pure kino

round fable
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destreza

empty estuary
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Destreza incarnon is huge

zinc coyote
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you know what game should be experienced for the first time blindly

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outer wilds @sleek kraken

vagrant summit
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I like games requiring me to do 3 hour sessions, but rdr2 was too much empty for not enough stuff going on into those sessions

wanton wasp
sleek kraken
cedar lark
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incarnon 2
destrezza

vagrant summit
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Oh outer wilds was an absolute banger, i have a taroo of the eye of the universe

wanton wasp
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Taroo

cedar lark
wanton wasp
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Mid weapon type and cringe weapon

round fable
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ngl stream is like

wanton wasp
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I think rapiers are lame

zinc coyote
round fable
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pretty boring

empty estuary
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Nightmare pizza

round fable
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the bit of them being clueless got old 15 minutes ago

cedar lark
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nevertheless
am gonna whatch anyways cuz no one else in the server i am in is going to so am gonna be the news guy💀

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posting here too is just an extra

empty estuary
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Rest in peace quiznos

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Ballistica incarnon

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Not my favorite weapon but id love for that to change

round fable
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one more game and it's halfway through the stream

balmy mason
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Oooooh

round fable
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STUG???

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PLEASE

balmy mason
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STUG

round fable
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STUG INCARNON

empty estuary
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STUG INCARNON

round fable
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STUG INCARNON

empty estuary
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ITS REAL

olive steeple
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called it

round fable
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THIS IS THE GREATEST DEVSTREAM EVER

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IM SORRY DE

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do i even have a built stug

balmy mason
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I sold mine long ago CATGRIN

round fable
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they better make it busted

cedar lark
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oh boi i gonna build one now
yaay

round fable
wanton wasp
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He's just fallen off the roof the moron

round fable
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"he has a rhino horn" megan that's excal not rhino

vagrant summit
rancid karma
round fable
rancid karma
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Oh shi

round fable
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stug incarnon

vagrant summit
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I guess the bigger thing I dont get with rdr2 is how it got such wide acclaim when the design is, to me, so against the player in so many situations

round fable
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has been confirmed

rancid karma
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I knew I was correct to keep my stug

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Finally

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It can be the best weapon in the game

cedar lark
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i have the image but cant post images
you do you

wanton wasp
vagrant summit
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Like honestly yeah, maybe my horse turning like a racecar wouldnt have been realistic, but at some point in game design you give up some realism to make way for gameplay enjoyment

round fable
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stug incarnon mode is that it just turns into the torid

round fable
rancid karma
cedar lark
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i can dm

olive steeple
zinc coyote
wanton wasp
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There are like 15 cops outside and now ambulance as this dog fell off the roof

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I've been up since fucking 4 in the morning

vagrant summit
wanton wasp
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I fucking hate schitzs dogs

cedar lark
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so rn we have
obex
destreza
ballistica
and stug
how nice

vagrant summit
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What im saying isnt that the activities arent fun, it's that the parts around it arent

balmy mason
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Tigris as well

vagrant summit
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It's too much time spent in auto run on a horse, too much time traveling to X and Y and then back to X

empty estuary
vagrant summit
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It's too much that feels like filler in a game filled with life

olive steeple
zinc coyote
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yeah

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rdr2 is almost 10 yearsold

empty estuary
cedar lark
olive steeple
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shut up

round fable
cedar lark
vagrant summit
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Wf is closer to 15 atp isnt it ?

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Or maybe 12 for the open beta

empty estuary
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Warframe is technically like 20 years old if we're counting all the shit its gone through as dark sector and all that

vagrant summit
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Yeah

empty estuary
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But warframe as we know it is 13

round fable
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we are in the 13 anniversary celebration rn

vagrant summit
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Yeah the release date must be round that

vagrant summit
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Im not tiktok brained or w/e, but dog just make a 2m cinematic and let's get to doing shit

empty estuary
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Rdr2 needs 5000 ubisoft collectibles

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Collect the 250 rare herbs across the map to cure uncles lumbago and get a cool hat

vagrant summit
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Dont strawman the argument

olive steeple
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rdr2 needs a dynamic disease system to really nail the western setting

zinc coyote
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i feel like the problem here is perspective

zinc coyote
round fable
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why is there a bonus round

cedar lark
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more wasted time

zinc coyote
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youre not metaphorically stopping to smell the roses

cedar lark
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now that i think about it
with these new incarnons
i guess its time to go to the hell that is the circuit again
yeeeee

zinc coyote
round fable
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i thought the music was for narmer for a moment

balmy mason
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Mount!

zinc coyote
sleek kraken
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I could actually

zinc coyote
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bam

sleek kraken
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When are you starting ff15

zinc coyote
balmy mason
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HEIRLOOM

sleek kraken
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Man

balmy mason
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MESA

round fable
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heirloom

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DAMN

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of course that's liger

balmy mason
bright crown
frosty yew
olive steeple
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yeah thats uhhhh

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very borderline

bright crown
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What

round fable
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every skin he makes liger pushes the limits of how much we can discuss warframe in here

empty estuary
olive steeple
bright crown
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Oh

empty estuary
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made by liger

bright crown
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Yeah lol

round fable
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yay dante won

hollow mica
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who won

wanton wasp
bright crown
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Wait

round fable
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sadly no tigris

bright crown
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So no Mesa heirloom?

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Im confused

cedar lark
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team dante won
dante deluxe and vectis incarnon confirmed

bright crown
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Im not watching thr stream

cedar lark
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rip tigris incarnon

wanton wasp
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FUCK

olive steeple
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lmao

bright crown
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Are we getting Mesa heirloom next? Or is it just concept possible art

cedar lark
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prime time

balmy mason
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PRIME

round fable
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big reveal

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PRIME

empty estuary
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its made by liger, and hes a de employee

balmy mason
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Uh oh

olive steeple
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stynax

balmy mason
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Voruna Prime

round fable
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sty or voruna

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hope its styanax

wanton wasp
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Please voruna, I actually play her

olive steeple
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oh right

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i forgot she existed

empty estuary
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VORUNA

hollow mica
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ima go back to sleep wake me up when its hype

cedar lark
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voruna?

round fable
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voruna

empty estuary
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Woah voruna in 1999

wanton wasp
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Fuck yes

bright crown
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What

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VORUNA 1999

empty estuary
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Thats a lore implication and a half

bright crown
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?

round fable
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well wasn't voruna involved in some void stuff on the moon

empty estuary
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YOOOO

bright crown
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YOOO

round fable
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damn

wanton wasp
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Crawling voruna fucking finally dude

bright crown
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WHAAAA

olive steeple
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ayo

bright crown
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DOOM ETERNAL

round fable
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i assume voruna rework is coming with this

empty estuary
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OH SHIT

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THEY KILLED HIM

round fable
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what

bright crown
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WHA

round fable
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WHAT

wanton wasp
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Damn slimed out

bright crown
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SO VICTOR IS DEAD?

wanton wasp
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Predator style

empty estuary
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OFF SCREEN DEATH

bright crown
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HOLY SHIT

round fable
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bro why does the voruna trailer have so much lore

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APRIL 8

wanton wasp
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Dude voruna prime looks fucking awsome

round fable
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prime access has a sumdali of all things

wanton wasp
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:(

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Ew

round fable
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ok that was a lame stream

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but voruna looks really cool

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and stug

balmy mason
cedar lark
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ok
voruna prime on the 8th

balmy mason
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Dude is so annoying

empty estuary
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Yeah that was a nothingburger stream

round fable
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we know there's an april stream too

empty estuary
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But holy fuck that trailer

round fable
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i think they just wanted to do one in pax

balmy mason
wanton wasp
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Voruna 4th is finally her on all fours like an actual dog

round fable
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but stug incarnon

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also they didn't announce the next stream

cedar lark
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so recap

incarnons
obex
destreza
ballistica
stug
and vectis

deluxe
just dante

heirloom
mesa

and prime
voruna

round fable
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in the next update

cedar lark
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later but yea

round fable
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and tigris incarnon in the future

round fable
balmy mason
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I hope they add new sources for these Incarnon

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I'm very tired of grinding Circuit

round fable
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well

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back to marathon

empty estuary
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i wouldnt mind circuit if they diversified it more

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i like the bit sized mission rush kinda deal

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its just too little in the pool

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man i cant wait for mesa heirloom, i love the demon cowboy theme

balmy mason
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As for the lore implication with Victor, dude is fine

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He is part of the loop

round fable
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true

cedar lark
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right
1999 and all

balmy mason
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But damn, Drifter has no chill in that particular loop

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Must be a bad day

vale pendant
cedar lark
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mayhaps

bright crown
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Gotta say i love that Mesa heirloom

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Alot

sleek kraken
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I'll buy it that's for sure

bright crown
balmy mason
bright crown
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I also REALLY like that helmet

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Reminds a ton of Lilith from diablo

empty estuary
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I do hope they go the vauban route and give her a jacket toggle but i love the vibes

balmy mason
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Welp I guess I gotta build a new Stug

cedar lark
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ah right
with voruna prime theres also perigale and sarofang prime
eh
i guess they exist

olive steeple
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more mr fodder

empty estuary
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Almost SHD 200

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I wanna do the incursion but idk if im in the mood to mess with lfgs today

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Also lfg for incursions is pretty much dead

buoyant moon
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I've only done it once

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It's definitely difficult, no idea how possible it is solo

loud compass
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@cold musk the amount of random shit on screen when i use this thing is wild

empty estuary
buoyant moon
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You on PC?

empty estuary
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Yup

buoyant moon
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Wouldn't mind running it with you sometime if you want

empty estuary
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Aight

buoyant moon
empty estuary
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yup

frosty yew
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good luck

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the opening is a pain in the ahh

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i'll be counting opening as encounter 1

encounter 1 is a pain
encounter 2 is fairly easy
encounter 3 is easyish but needs good coordination
encounter 4 is harder than 3 and still needs good coordination

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all being said it is/was possible to cheese the opening with a skill build centered around oxi chem but i never managed to figure out the lineup shrug

subtle elk
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which one of these best to subsume?

loud compass
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rhino then protea

frosty yew
loud compass
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that aswell

subtle elk
loud compass
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hildryn 3rd probably

frosty yew
loud compass
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zephyr's pretty alright

subtle elk
loud compass
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idk what u would use volts for

subtle elk
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ill subsume grendel when i get it

frosty yew
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hildryn, rhino or protea shrug

subtle elk
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im thinking ill actually get protea first

loud compass
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that works

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pro gamer tip, bring a protea specter

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free energizer procs

subtle elk
loud compass
subtle elk
loud compass
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spawnable allies

frosty yew
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specters are ai versions of frames that fight for you

subtle elk
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and how do i make those?

loud compass
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so u can have a protea just casting dispensary around u

loud compass
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theyre annoying to farm from what i remember

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i think theyre spy or rescue mission rewards?

subtle elk
loud compass
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i was running dispensary on alot of my frames before i discovered that

empty estuary
loud compass
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rn my specter is nokko for extra strength and funny mushrooms

empty estuary
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also good for other certain electricity based synergies

round fable
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if you need elec for some reason

frosty yew
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idk how up to date it is munch

loud compass
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its better than the corrupted bombard

subtle elk
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how do i subsume protea?

loud compass
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goto the back left room in ur orbiter

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with the infested stuff

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uh

subtle elk
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i am in room

loud compass
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actually

subtle elk
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looking for button

frosty yew
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toss them in the chair

subtle elk
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i have it unlocked

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looking for subsume button

loud compass
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send a screen shot

subtle elk
frosty yew
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before you yeet them

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you can choose the flower color Clueless

loud compass
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🤔

loud compass
frosty yew
loud compass
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from deimos

frosty yew
subtle elk
loud compass
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i try to keep my flowers the default colors so i can remember them

round fable
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i think you need to level it up before you can actually subsume frames

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you gotta feed him a bunch

frosty yew
loud compass
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ptsd from that

round fable
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yeah you need rank 1

loud compass
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all my resources were gone

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and i still couldnt reach golden instinct

frosty yew
loud compass
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basically just put on the cheapest ability and take it off and feed, repeat

frosty yew
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expedite suffering lavos munch

loud compass
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until u rank up

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i miss og marked for death

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its so mid now

dusky needle
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people here have played stardew right

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any advice for a totally fresh install who definitely didn't try it years ago and then forgot it was in my library

dusky needle
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he's mean to me

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i don like him

loud compass
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honestly idk anything about the game

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my aunt apparently has like 8k hours in the game

dusky needle
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wow that's a lot

steep frost
dusky needle
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the most my aunt has ever played a game is tetris on the wii

dusky needle
steep frost
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a really cool looking chicken

dusky needle
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i'm like literally day 5 right now man idk what's going on

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i dont even have normal chickens

steep frost
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by the time you marry someone you will defintely be able to have chickens

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the biggest tip of all in stardew is just take your time and have fun

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you dont have to rush anything, optimize or any of that

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literally just turn brain off and play the game

dusky needle
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oough i hate having to provide for myself

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i need instructions fed to me through a hampster water bottle

steep frost
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youll be ok

dusky needle
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wait is it hamster or hampster

steep frost
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hamster

dusky needle
cedar pumice
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hamer

dusky needle
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her

cedar pumice
dusky needle
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im gona eat dinner

hollow comet
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Arachne weather

vagrant summit
wanton wasp
hollow comet
empty estuary
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Torn on if i should div 2 some more or maybe do some WoW stuff

ashen shore
frosty yew
vale pendant
frosty yew
vale pendant
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now i feel a smidge bored

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or that’s just the attention span talking

frosty yew
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so basically youre like 10% done

vale pendant
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i did try wony on realism for a smidge

frosty yew
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shd effectively caps at 2k

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and then you got your builds, recalibration, optimization, prototype gear

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have fun

vale pendant
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more buildcrafting?

frosty yew
vale pendant
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this is what i left d2 for

frosty yew
vale pendant
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says ursa, as they play warframe

frosty yew
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unless its significantly changed last i remember strikers with st elmos was still real competitive

frosty yew
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coyotes mask, 4 pc strikers (with backpack), 1 pc ceska with obliterate and saint elmos

vale pendant
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someday i’ll get with the terminology as i have with destiny

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however black tusk has just undone all my work

frosty yew
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coyotes mask is an exotic mask
strikers is a gearset that gives more damage on hits
ceska is a brandset (brandsets give bonuses for 1, 2 and 3 pieces. gearsets go up to 4 pieces with the 4th unlocking the main draw for them)

wispy tundra
frosty yew
wispy tundra
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2k is just health which genuinely means nothing

frosty yew
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still something

wispy tundra
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Because enemy damage scales so exponentially that you die instantly anyway

frosty yew
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sounds like a skill issue

wispy tundra
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You either take zero damage or instantly get vaporized

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That health will never make a difference

wispy tundra
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That's just how the game works

frosty yew
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1k for stat allocations
2k for health
inf for scav points

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while health isnt the most important its still an an effective reward

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i remember back in ye ole when scav points were per char rather than account wide

wispy tundra
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That health still just doesn't do anything though I'm not wrong about that

frosty yew
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and this is good for general info and builds

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welp my info on the build was out of date

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a little*

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4 pc strikers with backpack
overdogs exotic gloves
equalizer named chest

wispy tundra
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Farm your gear through retaliations instead of countdown if possible so you can work on the blueprints too

vale pendant
hoary star
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PRAISE STUG

vale pendant
vale pendant
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the way i look at it

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it’s just a mish mosh of equal amounts of weapons armor and skill

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i’ll sink some time in finding something actually somewhat cohesive in the near future

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thinking of trying heartbreaker when rng is kind to me for a 4th piece

frosty yew
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I mean rn youre very much a mixup of sets and not what id call a coherent hybrid build

Imo pick a direction to go.
Generally people go full red core with critical hit chance/critical hit damage

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Alternatively you could go with a full red headshot damage build but thats more niche and not always effective

vale pendant
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the last milestone build did suffice for a while

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also

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is there anything similar to destiny’s infusion concerning gear?

frosty yew
#

No

vale pendant
#

aw

frosty yew
#

Once you break into shd levels all gear is pretty much the same

wispy tundra
frosty yew
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Youll start getting mostly high end, gearset and sometimes exotics

wispy tundra
#

And recalibration/optimization technically lets you upgrade anything to max stat rolls

frosty yew
#

Thats not really like infusion tho

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Infusion is level. Recal/opti is stats and talents

wispy tundra
#

Recalibration is kind of the same concept although it has the stat library now as an intermediate

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In y1 of div2 there was no library so you were directly deleting one gear piece to upgrade another

frosty yew
#

Imo theyre very muxh different but to each their own

wispy tundra
#

I think you're arguing semantics and have no whimsy but what do I know

frosty yew
#

There is a sub 40 library but youre not sub 40 so dw

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Theres also expertise which is nice to get a headstart on but dont go insane over it

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Imo the course for gear you dont need should be
Recal library -> expertise (unless you direly need materials) -> scrapping -> selling

wispy tundra
#

Basically yeah

frosty yew
#

@vale pendant also take a gander at the builds section of the spreadsheet i sent.

some notable builds are:

sniper setups (kinda niche but very good)
strikers build
negotiators dilemma-general use
tipping scales
ongoing directive

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i like tiping scales, strikers, snipers and ongoing.

ongoing is especially nice in teamplay since the gearset gives everyone hollowpoint ammo (bleed ammo) on death of a marked enemy

vale pendant
#

tipping scales looks to be plan no.2

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playing with others isn’t in said plan

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game pass required sadly

frosty yew
#

ongoing isnt exclusively good in teamplay

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it just works well in them situations

summer barn
#

Sometimes I do things and I wonder what the fuck was I thinking when I get the consequences of my actions 😭

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Humans should've evolved with the ability to see the future at least a day or two ahead in terms of potential outcomes of actions

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And not "oh this might happen", I mean you see EXACTLY what will happen

frosty yew
frosty yew
#

have you not seen the rick and morty episode with the death stone of whatever its called

summer barn
#

Don't think so

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Haven't watched that show in forever

vale pendant
summer barn
#

Wait is that the episode where Morty had that rock in his head?

frosty yew
#

ah. basically ||rick and morty go farming for stones, morty keeps one and crashes the ship killing rick, he wants to die in his ideal way (with jessica (his crush)) so he just does questionable actions but eventually his bubble is burst when he overhears jessica saying about the situation he forsees but its not in the context he thought||

frosty yew
summer barn
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Ohh

frosty yew
#

imo tho go for tipping since its still lmg and afaik give better damage

summer barn
#

Man, I really did binge that entire show

#

Having no responsibilities during the summer as a high schooler was awesome

frosty yew
#

also no matter what you do, DO NOT use ninja bike backpack. its pretty much just a trap for noobs. yes the talent sounds good but you lose out more than you gain

summer barn
#

Now I'm adult and have to work as a legal slave for a corporation until I die because a bunch of old people decided I don't get to retire

frosty yew
summer barn
#

I'm not gonna watch it until all the episodes are out

frosty yew
#

oh nvm i misread your message CATGRIN

summer barn
#

Same with SBR, I won't let myself get rage baited again

frosty yew
#

whars sbr?

summer barn
#

Steel ball run

frosty yew
#

never heard of it

summer barn
#

I've been avoiding all news about it

summer barn
frosty yew
#

ah

summer barn
#

Some of the coolest stands come from part 7, cough cough... D4C

frosty yew
#

i havent watched a single full ep of jojos. only seen clips every now and again

summer barn
#

If you don't care for the story, at least check out the stand abilities

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Some of them are pretty awesome

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There's one that makes people rapidly age based on how warm they are

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And another that basically gives you a super plague if the user is on higher elevation than you

frosty yew
#

me on everest CATGRIN

summer barn
#

I think there's a radius limit

frosty yew
#

"curse of ra be upon ye"

summer barn
#

I haven't gone super in depth into the stands despite being a huge fan of the series

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So I don't remember every "niche" ability, but the ones I do remember are pretty nutty

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There's one that kills you if someone looks at your back. I think the stand killed its own user too.

frosty yew
#

ye ive seen a clip abt that one

summer barn
#

The stands of main villains are always straight bs though. Imagine fighting some priest that goes from being able to steal your stand and memories, to being able to invert gravity, then finally having the ability to accelerate time to the point the universe goes "fuck it, I quit" and resets.

frosty yew
#

i see no links between the abilities. if there were you could argue "stand evolution" but nah

sleek kraken
summer barn
#

Pucci's stand evolutions were entirely bullshit. Especially made in heaven. How the fuck does your stand go from "teehee up is sideways now" to "oh wow, I'm in very specific coordinates right now! Let me turn into a centaur and pull a flashpoint paradox!"

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I read stone ocean and watched the anime adaptation, but to this day I think that was a card pulled straight out of digimon in terms of ability changes.

sleek kraken
#

Well if you read dios diary

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Ascending to heaven for a stand is one mf of an achievement

summer barn
#

I don't read peoples diary, that's invasion of one's privacy CATGRIN

zinc coyote
#

gravity tying in to acceleration and making things faster

summer barn
#

Yeah but it went from a green thing to a god damn horse man

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That makes no sense at all

#

That's like my toaster evolving into prime John Cena

sleek kraken
summer barn
#

That makes sense because we have the ninja turtles

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They went from regular turtles to a group of dudes

loud compass
#
IGN

As Crimson Desert players make their way further into the game, they’re coming to understand some of its more puzzling design choices. Chief among them is that creature mounts other than your horse are not permanent. And while the coveted endgame dragon is a permanent addition, its use has a 15 minute real-time time limit, and then a 50 minute...

regal yarrow
#

Videogames using SBMM are stressful and discourage play

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I don't think D2 uses this

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but many other games the track stats from accuracy, W/L, and K/D I will not trust anymore

weary silo
#

em, this channel is for non-destiny topics

regal yarrow
#

They push you to your limit only to make things boring when you have to keep using a meta and winning the same garbage over and over

sleek kraken
regal yarrow
#

and ontop of this they pair you into games where ping is atrocious where sometimes you get opponents with 150-200ms ping

weary silo
#

also you should ask the average/below average players

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if they like being stomped every game

regal yarrow
#

then it becomes sheer luck

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a coin toss

wanton wasp
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Don't suck lol

regal yarrow
#

which is gambling, not skill

wanton wasp
#

Ez win

weary silo
#

what is wrong with just losing if you don't want to sweat that much?

loud compass
#

i never have an issue with sbmm because there is no one better than me

wanton wasp
#

Bipu I didn't vault 1

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And now I'm on a hunt for biomata resin

loud compass
wanton wasp
#

My rook will be armed and dangerous

regal yarrow
#

That is not how that works, you are already at your limit of capability but then circumstance comes into play, it's above this where even ping effects your play because you are already at your limit of capable skill and play where every match starts to feel sweaty and not relaxing

empty estuary
regal yarrow
#

You cannot experiment with loadouts and if you want to be the best you are required to use the same meta as others that is OP and needs to be nerfed to balance other guns to get fresh mixes of experimentation

loud compass
regal yarrow
#

You also have to deal with the game fighting against you to keep you at 50%

loud compass
regal yarrow
#

higher than 50%, 52% you lose streak, 48% you win streak and stomp

wanton wasp
#

What game

empty estuary
#

The sbmm game

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Yknow

regal yarrow
#

It discourages play as a main account, encourages smurfing and cheating to beat against odds mechanisms that are designed to keep you stationary instead of climbing a ladder

empty estuary
#

The game with sbmm

loud compass
weary silo
empty estuary
#

That one specific sbmm that all the games use, THE sbmm

weary silo
#

the problem is people expect to win while experimenting with new stuff at the same skill level

#

which is unrealistic lol

regal yarrow
#

An MX5 SMG over top of a AK5

empty estuary
regal yarrow
#

Real battle irl is not balanced skill

empty estuary
#

Thats just ridiculous

wanton wasp
#

No shit it's drone Warfare

regal yarrow
#

How is real battle not being balanced skill ridiculous?

weary silo
#

wtf

empty estuary
wanton wasp
#

Wait real battle like irl or is that a game

empty estuary
#

Why are we comparing irl to pixels

weary silo
#

WHY ARE YOU COMPARING REAL LIFE to a game that's supposed to be not serious

regal yarrow
#

Because SBMM should not exist

wanton wasp
#

It should but okay

regal yarrow
#

Especially in casual gamemodes

weary silo
#

if sbmm doesn't exist are you going to personally train new players?

wanton wasp
#

Stops shit players from being dogged on and good players from getting into rubbish lobbies

weary silo
#

or you watch your game die to people trying and getting stomped, then quitting?

empty estuary
#

Fortnite would be unplayable without sbmm lmao

#

Builds would anyways

regal yarrow
#

so keeping someone 50% regardless is considered a good game?

#

It's stressful to me

empty estuary
#

Its a videogame man

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I dont care

regal yarrow
#

Imo it discourages me from playing

#

Then why you here arguing with me over it xD

empty estuary
#

Ill get good or quit trying

sleek kraken
#

If your discouraged from playing against people from your skill level I think you suck at games icl

regal yarrow
#

I do not suck at games

#

I am tired of coin toss gambling

wanton wasp
#

Clearly you do :)

sleek kraken
#

Sounds like you do

weary silo
#

maybe you don't but your attitude certainly isn't the one of a learner

sleek kraken
#

Nobody good at games complains about playing against people of their skill

regal yarrow
#

You are jumping to assumptions now because you do not know me or how I play

weary silo
#

the one legitimate complaint is the connection one but that typically doesn't happen unless player pools are very small

sleek kraken
#

You are sat in a destiny discord complaining about sbmm

regal yarrow
#

I will continue to push my debate and perspective that SBMM is a bad idea

sleek kraken
#

skill based

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it's based on skill

weary silo
#

usually the problem with sbmm systems is the parameters used for calculating skill, not the idea itself

wanton wasp
#

Cryo why are you Humphry now

regal yarrow
#

Actually destiny has been pretty ok, if it is SBMM it's loose enough to allow some winnage

sleek kraken
#

Youd be more upset playing against people better then you all the time

zinc coyote
#

done and dusted

regal yarrow
#

Not quite, I do not tolerate games fucking with my gameplay by matching me with people that are 200ms ping

empty estuary
#

Are you playing like

#

Halo infinite or something

weary silo
sleek kraken
#

What game are you playing where this is happening

regal yarrow
#

Halo infinite, 8 ball pool

weary silo
#

that is a parameter problem

zinc coyote
#

8 ball pool

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youre talking about sbmm

#

for 8 ball pool

regal yarrow
#

Pay 2 win shit

sleek kraken
#

You are complaining

#

About

#

8 ball pool

regal yarrow
#

Halo infinite too

sleek kraken
#

Are you serious?

wanton wasp
#

8 ball bro are you fucking serious

regal yarrow
#

LMAO

sleek kraken
#

Fucking 8 ball?

wanton wasp
#

Also isn't halo infinite like kinda dead?

zinc coyote
#

bro just go play 8 ball at your local rec center

wanton wasp
#

Fell off and didn't have coop campaign on launch

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Mid game

empty estuary
#

Halo infinite is pretty good

regal yarrow
#

Nope, it's still going, people are playing multiplayer in halo infinite

wanton wasp
#

I didn't like It

empty estuary
#

Just took too long to get there

wanton wasp
#

The open world just wasn't it for me and no co op on launch dug the grave deeper

empty estuary
#

But it has a small playerbase so its no wonder connection issues are a complaint

zinc coyote
#

no guys halo studios has to put all their time in the AMAZING halo CE remake!!!

regal yarrow
#

but you are stuck with the same tight SBMM that makes you get incredible losing streaks

#

and bad ping

empty estuary
#

Well

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Stop playing small games

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If youre playing games like halo its no wonder

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Thats not an sbmm problem

zinc coyote
empty estuary
#

Its a playerbase problem

wanton wasp
#

Voruna prime in twoish weeks

zinc coyote
#

less of a pool to choose from --> picks people from further away --> ping issues

sleek kraken
#

The helldivers know me

regal yarrow
#

SBMM still tries to retain 50% and will manipulate against you to keep it at 50% which is not true to your real gameplay

sleek kraken
#

That also isn't true

empty estuary
regal yarrow
#

you get pushed into heavy sweat lobbies that are adderall spiked

weary silo
#

??? things just tend towards the normal naturally

sleek kraken
#

Idk why he referred to me as that

regal yarrow
#

Oh but I do

sleek kraken
#

But I'm the oh wise cryo kitty now

sleek kraken
regal yarrow
#

I have 50% and pay attention to this

empty estuary
#

Youre just making shit up

weary silo
#

humans are notoriously bad at analyzing random chance and are wired to see patterns everywhere

regal yarrow
#

Why do you think Halo WAypoint has a predicted death and kill ratio?

#

Predicted

#

and keeps you at 50% regardless

sleek kraken
#

A 50% wr means you just aren't improving

regal yarrow
#

you can take adderall and still retain 50%

hollow comet
regal yarrow
#

you can spend $500 on new gear, still 50%

#

you can run 4K still 50%

zinc coyote
empty estuary
#

If youre spending mad money on peripherals and still losing you deserve it

regal yarrow
#

Out of how many games lifetime?

empty estuary
#

Cause peripherals barely matter

weary silo
#

if anything you are being egotistical in assuming you must be good enough to just keep high win ratios and assuming everybody else must play worse than you

zinc coyote
#

^

empty estuary
#

^

sleek kraken
#

If you only have a 50% winrate it means your gameplay hasn't improved and you are playing where you should be

zinc coyote
#

im still laughing that this is over some damn 8 ball

sleek kraken
#

Going back to it

#

It just sounds like your ass at games

regal yarrow
#

Not quite, that too is an assumption

#

ya'll really like those

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I am consistently sat at 50% regardless what I do

empty estuary
#

Some games do try to keep you in a certain win ratio but pretending this is some universal rule is weird

zinc coyote
#

50% winrate is used over large scale player populaces to measure whether or not a character is balanced, not every single player has a 50% winrate balanced out

regal yarrow
#

I could play for a month without working a job

zinc coyote
sleek kraken
#

This is how sbmm works

regal yarrow
#

you cannot improve when the game is rigged tight enough to keep you at 50%

empty estuary
#

And usually skilled players can break out of a games parameters if they are actually skilled enough

regal yarrow
#

I have repeated this over and over

sleek kraken
#

If you don't improve you aren't gonna have a more then 50% wr

zinc coyote
regal yarrow
#

if you get 58% you will lose streak

wanton wasp
#

The mental gymnastics is crazy for a simple admission that you just suck

empty estuary
regal yarrow
#

if you get 44% you will win streak

empty estuary
#

Full send

sleek kraken
#

People be saying ANYTHING but "I need to improve"

zinc coyote
#

come back with actual numbers on this and then some people might take you seriously

regal yarrow
#

Idrgaf about being the best player, I am sick of the coin toss mechancis

zinc coyote
empty estuary
#

Then improve

regal yarrow
#

trying to retain me at 50%

sleek kraken
#

There is no coin toss mechanic

olive steeple
#

sbmm is kinda important to the longterm health of an multiplayer game

sleek kraken
#

You are making this up to cope

weary silo
#

"idgaf about being the best player" then why the fuck are you caring about winning games?

#

just play and goof around

empty estuary
regal yarrow
#

None of you are listening

zinc coyote
#

you arent listening to anyone but yourself

empty estuary
#

Youre the one contradicting yourself

regal yarrow
#

This arguement is useless

sleek kraken
#

The game isn't rigged, you aren't improving, you are coping and blaming it on some imaginary system so you can continue sucking at said game and bitching about it online

zinc coyote
#

youre just thrashing around because you continue to blame the system for a made up winrate value that you insist is real

weary silo
#

it's useless because you don't want to let go of your ego

empty estuary
#

And citing yourself as a source for how a game uses sbmm

#

Like cmon man

regal yarrow
empty estuary
#

Show us

sleek kraken
#

This is like fucking up your driving test 100 times because your doing the same stuff every time

regal yarrow
#

I know what I'm noticing

zinc coyote
#

yeah guys 50% winrate

#

this is my own crucible report

empty estuary
#

Oh

sleek kraken
#

If you understood the simple concept of what "skill based" was you'd know it's nobody but YOUR issue

zinc coyote
#

im an above average player fry

wanton wasp
#

No need to be rude

empty estuary
#

Screw you it you still get the skull

#

Rekt

zinc coyote
#

im not insecure about my winrates

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but destiny 2 uses loose sbmm in qp and hard sbmm in comp

weary silo
#

i'm always amazed by people who think only their perception matters

empty estuary
#

Nah i just thought you pulled out bros report and thought it was funny

zinc coyote
wanton wasp
olive steeple
#

lets tone it down a bit

zinc coyote
olive steeple
#

i see were getting heated

empty estuary
#

But yeah, sbmm literally cant keep you hard stuck at 50, if you are thats just on you

sleek kraken
#

Read the numbers

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Sbmm

#

I have an above 50% win rate

empty estuary
sleek kraken
#

IN EVERY SEASOJ

weary silo
olive steeple
#

im just making sure you guys behave

empty estuary
sleek kraken
#

I wear that title with pride

zinc coyote
#

yeah he got that title because hes plastic 5

sleek kraken
#

Took me 99 games of the April fools mode for it

zinc coyote
#

i still cant believe you actually did it

empty estuary
empty estuary
#

This new level cap on WoW feels so slow

hollow comet
sleek kraken
#

There is simply no excuse to blame sbmm

#

Yes I am just this good at ramattra btw

frosty yew
#

@vale pendantone thing i forgor to mention is div 2 is getting crossplay so if you ever get ps+ or xbox live (scams) you can play with us CATGRIN

#

coming in like april

vale pendant
#

emphasis on if

frosty yew
#

i am very much a hater on the pay to play for online services in consoles

#

like you already pay for the internet

wanton wasp
#

PS+ is like 20 bucks here

#

Thank fuck for pc

#

No longer a slave to monthly subscriptions to play the games I BOUGHT

frosty yew
empty estuary
#

At least only sony will have a paid service from now on

#

And nintendo but nintendos sub isnt too bad tbh

frosty yew
#

if they made it optional with the main benefit being the free game i'd be more happy with it

empty estuary
#

Nintendo at least doesnt try to price people out of their sub

frosty yew
#

but locking people out of multiplayer is ahhhhh

empty estuary
cold musk
#

Holy shit we getting voruna prime

#

For sure thought we were getting styanax

summer barn
#

Voruna prime Zav

#

Ik where $80 is about to go

#

And the mesa heirloom

#

I'm about to be feasting

cold musk
#

Wait mesa heirloom? Oh sht

eternal holly
#

i have been disappointed

empty estuary
#

23 to go

#

yay

cold musk
#

Wait they remembered Dante is a frame n giving him a skin finally

steep frost
bright crown
#

lizard

cold musk
#

@loud compass where tf is the sword

full saddle
#

these S ranks in crossworlds are rough

#

im done with the Coral Cup now though

#

holy shit i locked in 2nd lap

subtle elk
#

whoever gifted me those protea mods this week, ty

#

sorry i dont remember your name but those mods are letting me do really well in lvl 100+

hallow hawk
#

@blissful pagoda @weary silo either of you need a Bighorn? i have one that i can give away for the next 49 minutes

#

i just got two back to back from farming Summit room 10

full saddle
#

IM SO GOATED

blissful pagoda
#

I never actually tried to farm for it

#

AH shit

#

I didnt finish farming the anniversary stuff

full saddle
#

WHAT DO YOU MEAN 4 SECONDS AWAY 😭

blissful pagoda
buoyant moon
#

Washed

buoyant moon
blissful pagoda
buoyant moon
#

Not when black tusk retaliation just gives you the blueprint to craft it DogKek

#

Although it's probably better to farm the ten floors

#

Would you like to farm it now so I have an excuse to get up and charge my phone

empty estuary
#

i cannot get the overdogs to drop

buoyant moon
#

Can't remember if they added them to retaliation drop

empty estuary
#

they did

blissful pagoda
#

And wont be back until anniv event ends

#

Which i am realising

#

Its GG for me

buoyant moon
#

Well hurry up

blissful pagoda
#

Because i didnt get to finish farming the free track

#

and i wanted the Kestrel armour set lmao

buoyant moon
#

They'll bring it back for premium credits eventually CATGRIN

blissful pagoda
#

Yeah I’m not buying that shit

buoyant moon
#

Think of it this way the more blueprints you get the more options you have for later builds

#

Reverse gaslight the game

blissful pagoda
#

Well after anniv event ends

#

Big Ale joins the general lootpool right? And the other named items?

buoyant moon
#

Probably

#

Don't remember seeing what they were doing with them

#

Big ale is definitely the most sexiest gun I've used though

#

Honestly kinda upset it's so good because I loved my strega

blissful pagoda
#

It’s strong

#

But I’m upset that because Tipping Scales scales (hah) its damage by time spent firing instead of literally any other way, Big Ale isnt good on it otherwise you’ll run out of ammo just to maintain stacks

#

So it really is just strikerslop

buoyant moon
#

You can keep your stacks from degrading if you suppress someone

#

Not too bad to upkeep

blissful pagoda
buoyant moon
#

Seems fine to me

#

But I've been dealing with it for years, so iam probably use to it's jank

blissful pagoda
#

I am not

#

😭

#

But regardless, it should have more avenues of stacking

#

Like why does suppressing an enemy not just give a bump in the CHD and damage to begin with

#

Why is it only ‘stops decay’

buoyant moon
#

As opposed to strikers "use the aa12"

blissful pagoda
#

Striker is way too good

#

It doesnt even decay that fast

#

its only fast when youre using chestpiece and the decay is from 200 to 100

buoyant moon
#

It decays fast if you don't have a gun with a fast fire rate to help offset it when you aren't building stacks with the aa12

blissful pagoda
#

But holy shit tipping scales loses everything in like 3-4 seconds

blissful pagoda
buoyant moon
#

Which never really helped when using my strega

blissful pagoda
#

I mean it is a Rifle

buoyant moon
#

It's an assault rifle

blissful pagoda
#

whoops

#

Oh it looks decent

buoyant moon
#

I used dark winter prior to strega and pretty much anything with a fast fire rate already like dark winter or big ale will help with stacks

blissful pagoda
#

Im surprised i didnt try to farm and use it