#☀️off-topic-discussion

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empty estuary
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Yup

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It also locks talents, so youll need multiple copies of gear if you every want to change up your build, so theres gonna be a huge stash problem

weary silo
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so, back to the OLD div2 era

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dunno why they think that's a good idea lmao

empty estuary
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Also a god roll piece of proto gear is twice as potent as non proto

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So the endgame sweat to new player stat gap is getting MASSIVE

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Like, im not opposed to endgame investment, but theres already so many menial and grindy systems for stat buffs that give endgame players an easy excuse to discriminate against a new character vs old character regardless of experience

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The scope of the content we grind is about shrink drastically too, the game was already a countdown simulator, but at least there were other means, now its all escalation

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I think itll take a while before we see that gap open, given its more rng focused, so old builds will probably outperform proto builds until then, but the second you get a single piece of well rolled proto gear, youre getting a huge bump

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It almost reminds me of the chase for uniques during the launch era of Diablo 4

zenith blaze
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LEAVE HER ALONEE

empty estuary
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Oh god the proto gear is going to make dark zone a NIGHTMARE for new players to enter

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I wonder what a fully grolled proto pvp build will look like ttk wise, because DZ could become a stat slop fest

full saddle
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ayo the source code?

empty estuary
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That message was meant to stir the pot and deflect blame to the OpenWF devs, and there has been no proof of the smaller offenses mentioned like cheated gear, so if they didnt do that, i doubt they got source code

weary silo
# empty estuary Also a god roll piece of proto gear is twice as potent as non proto

    Upgrading does not require any resources, but it changes how the item’s attributes are generated.

    One attribute is guaranteed to be maxed at the new Prototype maximum value

    The other attributes remain at their previous maximum values

    There is a chance for additional attributes to also roll at the new Prototype maximum

so i have to get multiple of same gear and rng upgrade to prototype huh

empty estuary
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Grindy rng hell

weary silo
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for example prototype gear weapon damage stat is maxed at 22.5% compared to normal gear's 15%

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that's like 50% more isn't it? damn

empty estuary
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I get endgame players are starving for more meaningful content, but i hate divs insistance on just making endgame a stat game

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Its such an exhausting journey to just get to the endgame baseline before you even consider your actual build

weary silo
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wtf. you need max expertise to even convert your old gear to prototype

empty estuary
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Yup

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And THAT is a grindy hell on its own

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Thats like hundreds of hours of resource/countdown farming

weary silo
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yeah... first you need to get your expertise cap to 30.. then you need to actually upgrade expertise for the gear to 30

ashen shore
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What I'm hearing is that I will continue to not play Div2

empty estuary
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I love division at its core but holy fuck the grindiness in div 2 could make an eastern mmo blush

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Its almost a blessing the game barely gets content, even the unemployed would struggle to keep up

weary silo
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and then the new augments thing

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i guess you can reroll it but needs another exclusive currency...

empty estuary
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Proto gear shouldve just been the augments

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I really wanna get back into running the Dark Zone but that barrier to entry is just too much

ashen shore
slow galleon
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Fat

ashen shore
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Or do he roll

weary silo
ashen shore
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Lol ubisoft needs to die faster

zenith blaze
ashen shore
empty estuary
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I wouldnt be surprised if ubisoft really is just having to close shit down to stay afloat right now

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It took star wars outlaws fumbling for them to wake up

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And now theyre finally remembering Div exists

ashen shore
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Not for long apparently

empty estuary
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Idk what that means

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Div 2 has an actual content timeline going for like the first time in its life

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Like actual content and not years of seasons and maybe a dlc

weary silo
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@empty estuary it begins

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man 0.3% to get godrolls (i assume that means all attributes get the maxed out value instead of previous values)

this is going to be a LONG hamster wheel grind..

empty estuary
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Yup

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And those that go through it are gonna hit HARD

weary silo
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ah well. i guess i'll just stick to whatever, doing escalations probably not gonna be viable for me anyway. i can barely do legendaries

empty estuary
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I just wanna dz without having to worry about the most unemployed humunculus ever killing me with a sneeze

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I really wish we could see a fully optimized proto build in pvp

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I wanna see the ttk comparison so bad

blissful pagoda
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Uh oh

weary silo
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but yeah. i guess whoever gets the prototype lexington with maxed all attributes should play the lottery lol

weary silo
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well i guess converting your current gear to prototype will be an upgrade

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just that afterwards will be a lot harder to gain an upgrade

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it's gonna be harder for people to figure out min/maxed potential as well since it's a huge time sink

ashen shore
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@bright crown 1 squee 4 u

empty estuary
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Im glad that longtime players have the long term grind they want, but prototype gear as it is on TOP of expertise levels and SHD levels is simply asking too much of a new player

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On its own i think its a fine system, but stacked with an already monumental grind its bad

weary silo
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i'm just afraid that in the future there will be activities that will require minmaxed prototype gear to even stand a chance

empty estuary
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Also the discrimination purely based on stats

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People kick based on SHD level in COUNTDOWN of all things

weary silo
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weird. i've only been kicked in countdown if i'm using a weird ass build

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was a high end all red gearset with palisade backpack lmao

empty estuary
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I have a standard striker st elmo build and i get kicked constantly

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I can very easily hold my own in countdown but people dont care

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All my stats are right too (though not fully optimized)

weary silo
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i usually do ongoing directive in countdown

empty estuary
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I really hate the idea of a player being instantly recognized as better or worse because they ran countdown 1000 times before a new player had a chance to

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The power from shd levels is just not earned at all

weary silo
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do people not do challenging countdown these days?

empty estuary
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Apparently the second hardest difficulty is the meta one but i always run challenging cause i get better mm times

weary silo
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the advice i've seen is that you run countdown on challenging because the loot is not that much different from heroic

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so when i was low shd i exclusively run countdown on challenging

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generally i run OD because i can do okay dps and at the same time increase other members dps

runic yarrow
weary silo
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well ig yeah, i do retaliation mostly nowadays, but new players it's still an okay source of heroic tier gear

runic yarrow
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I forget when the update drops but they're adding new end game gear

cold musk
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how tf is mr5 in sp

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what in the taxi is that

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they hv 70 hrs in hte game

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wtf

weary silo
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realistically it's only for people who regularly do legendaries, have 30 expertise on the stuff they regularly use, that sort of thing

balmy mason
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They found the Compiler yet?

weary silo
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as discussed before, prototype rarity gear can't be tinkered with or optimized, and if you upgrade your gear to prototype, you're only guaranteed 1 stat to increase to the new maximum. the other stats stay at previous tier maximum.

so realistically you have to

a) get normal drops of the gear you want
b) FULLY optimize and expertise said gear
c) upgrade that gear to prototype and pray RNG is kind enough to give you multiple attributes stats to prototype tier maximum

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if at c) you only get 1 or 2 stats to increase, back to square one you go

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well there's another option and that is farming random drops in escalation, but that will be random stats ranging from high end maximum to prototype maximum values

balmy mason
weary silo
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nah. a lot of people are defending it from what i see. they are saying it makes loot exciting again

which is a VERY familiar argument

empty estuary
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Steel path just doesnt take long to get anymore

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You dont need every node in the game anymore, just up to new war

balmy mason
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SP used to be scary

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Holy crap new TADC episode dropped

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Gonna be a traumatizing episode

blissful pagoda
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dahel do you want, rice?

empty estuary
blissful pagoda
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I can already tell I’m going to half ass it and just be like ‘oh it has the minitalent i want. Im done :-)’

empty estuary
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A groll proto gear is like 50% stronger than a groll non-proto variant

blissful pagoda
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Higher stats as in the %?

empty estuary
empty estuary
weary silo
empty estuary
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Oh i misread

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Yeah that ^

blissful pagoda
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Well

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ok so

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Optimising before upgrading to prototype doesnt matter?

empty estuary
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Its straight up just widening the stat gap between new and old players for no reason

balmy mason
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Guess no one gonna step foot in DZ anymore with those around

weary silo
empty estuary
weary silo
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i guess you can try your luck and farm random drops in escalation

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except... you can't choose targeted loot in escalation as well. it's on a weekly rotation

blissful pagoda
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im only at expertise 12 and i feel kinda sick of grinding for it

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and ive already taken a several month’s break

empty estuary
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Yeah its meant to be THE big grind for people whove been playing for years

weary silo
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yeah i'm at 15. lol it forces you to use gear you don't want to use

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or i guess pay materials

empty estuary
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Except massive neglected to consider those that havent

blissful pagoda
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or those that have played a ton

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But didnt actually care to donate everything to expertise

weary silo
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i guess with the new stat increases people won't need ceska pieces anymore

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9% crit chance per gear

blissful pagoda
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Floppo grouper stocks increasing yet again

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I don’t even remember the original brand name

weary silo
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grupo?

blissful pagoda
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Yeah

weary silo
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i guess depends on build

blissful pagoda
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Something grupo

weary silo
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something like tipping scales won't want grupo ig

blissful pagoda
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Oh wait its grupo sombra right

weary silo
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ye

blissful pagoda
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grouper slumber

weary silo
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in other news i just got overdogs gloves and can see why people are raving about it

empty estuary
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Also the new exotic revolver is funny

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The "dont use me" gun

weary silo
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it reloads your other weapons when you swap to it right

blissful pagoda
empty estuary
weary silo
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it's free 30% damage amp by just playing normally lol

blissful pagoda
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wtf

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i wonder how it works with the funny kneecaps

weary silo
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turmoil?

blissful pagoda
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Yeah

blissful pagoda
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Oh

weary silo
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that's not in the game yet

blissful pagoda
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Its the cod quote

blissful pagoda
weary silo
empty estuary
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Its the pts

blissful pagoda
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back half of that sentence is the talent name

weary silo
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i thought there's already a pistol perk that kinda embodies that haha

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also i haven't made a build with this yet

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should update my headhunter build

weary silo
empty estuary
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Nah

blissful pagoda
weary silo
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something about holstering it for 10s increases its damage for 20s

blissful pagoda
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So this plus overdawgs

rain tundra
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Deaftones

red slate
old furnace
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Chat we got accepted into college 🥳🥳🎉🎉👏

balmy mason
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Grat

old furnace
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Gonna be employed 🥀

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Maybe by the time I graduate we’ll have destiny 3!!!

weary silo
empty estuary
weary silo
wanton wasp
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Cryo archive is so rough

runic yarrow
blissful pagoda
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Are there already accusations of ai art?

empty estuary
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Not accusations

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Its insanely blatant

blissful pagoda
empty estuary
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Crimson Slop

blissful pagoda
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Oh jesus

empty estuary
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Undisclosed ai art too

wanton wasp
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Btw this is weird right

So I was in a very small discord server for marathon, and today I look over at my monitor and see that I'm no longer in the server right. I join one in game and say what's going on, says nothing leaves the lobby and unfriends me.

That's weird right

empty estuary
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They also didnt disclose a lack of support for intel gpus

blissful pagoda
wanton wasp
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Understandable if I was some evil dog but I didn't even do anything

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:( I'm back to having to squad fill

blissful pagoda
wanton wasp
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I genuinely don't know what I even did though, like I haven't gone off at anyone or have been rude I just play the game

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If I had to guess they all decided I wasn't good enough

gloomy lagoon
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yeah.... it sometimes does be like that where a discord for a comp game just decides you aren't worth it

wanton wasp
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It would have been nice to just tell me upfront instead of being cowards

gloomy lagoon
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I mean, I'm still in my D2 clan as they're "real" people who hold weekly Netflix streams despite the fact that I don't really interact with them much

wanton wasp
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I get marathon is a hard game but like bruh

gloomy lagoon
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and I'm talking about the fact that they "interviewed" me before allowing me to join the clan full-time

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during COVID

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said "interview" was about "you an evil dog/what is your playtime frequency going to look like?"

wanton wasp
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I'm just waiting for yg and what not to get the marathon brain worm and catch up to me

gloomy lagoon
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and also where I was "currently" at in life. Like "what age bracket are you?"

wanton wasp
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That's way too much to be asking for a d2 clan ngl

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Are they world first racers?

gloomy lagoon
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participators. And I think they only went as far as "we attempt Day 1"

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more of it was a "toxic childish filter"

balmy mason
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World first Cryo race is still going

gloomy lagoon
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wait.... I'm out of the loop

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what's Cryo?

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marathon event?

wanton wasp
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Cryo archive is the new map

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It's on a weekend rotation

gloomy lagoon
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ok.... so I'm guessing it's like ARG map edition with loot?

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hence the "Cryo race"?

wanton wasp
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Nah the Arg is finished

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But the race is for the compiler????

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Which is an alien

balmy mason
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Yeah

gloomy lagoon
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yeah, I don't think my soul would survive that type of competitive shit

wanton wasp
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I just need to get better ngl, I'm having my arse handed to me by purple kitted teams

balmy mason
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People figured out the mechanic too I think

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Just down to execution now

wanton wasp
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It just sucks that I really don't have a consistent team to play with

gloomy lagoon
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better option: Quit comp multiplayer games.

It's too emotionally painful CATGRIN

wanton wasp
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Also I'll see clips of American players and the purple kitted teams they play against are terrible. In oce it's John wick and a full factory of grenades

gloomy lagoon
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I don't think I'm built for extraction shooters 😂

Since I know I don't wanna waste time

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Huh.....

weary silo
steep frost
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top comment is right theres kind of a weird spot in looter shooters

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with d2 being so dead there became an influx of people needing shit to play and putting your game on a $3 sale really helps

gloomy lagoon
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it's still on sale for $3????

balmy mason
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Cryo world first race is insane

weary silo
gloomy lagoon
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hmmm suuuper tempting

weary silo
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if you like looter shooters div2 is excellent

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just that it's 3rd person for me is a bit of a minus

gloomy lagoon
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is it as painful as D2?

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or less

weary silo
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actually no.

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loot grind is a lot better

gloomy lagoon
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like how many "hoops" do I need to jump in order to get something "functional"

weary silo
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let's see

gloomy lagoon
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that's why I've pretty much cold-turkey D2

weary silo
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you do the campaign, picking up whatever you can find is enough

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after the campaign when you get your watch, you can either take the slow way up by doing open world stuff gradually by difficulty level, or do the loot pinata activities for endgame loot immediately

gloomy lagoon
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✨that's great ✨

blissful pagoda
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i have substantially less hours in div2

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i already have a few rudimentary builds

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and one semi complex build that i copied CATGRIN

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cuz its really just

weary silo
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most meta builds are easy to farm

gloomy lagoon
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it's more "kit loadout" builds rather than chasing mods to make kits usable right?

blissful pagoda
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what armour, what exotic, what weapons

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“Oh you’re running a gun build? Go crit CATGRIN

weary silo
blissful pagoda
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^ exactly that

gloomy lagoon
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So EVERYTHING is usable???!! 😮

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and no "RNG weapon" nonsense of D2???

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aka "must have specific barrel" shit

weary silo
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basically any weapon you don't use, you can save the stats that you might want to put on another weapon

gloomy lagoon
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like you can do a knockout list for perks

weary silo
gloomy lagoon
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✨Sold✨

blissful pagoda
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sold, for $3!

weary silo
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you still need to get a bit lucky but at least for meta builds it's very forgiving

blissful pagoda
blissful pagoda
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‘Just run striker with 60% cc’

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and dont get hit

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i still dont understand how sometimes

gloomy lagoon
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if it means I can "guarente" to see a functional build in a year. I'll bite

weary silo
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i mean you can not run striker, maybe go heartbreaker or something for first build lol

blissful pagoda
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I see people running ALL REDS

weary silo
blissful pagoda
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And they can facetank with their shield

weary silo
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or less

blissful pagoda
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Like theyre running all blue

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I do not get it

gloomy lagoon
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like that's my biggest hate for D2. I'm still having PTSD of farming for.... Hold on....

weary silo
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also, loot is tradable between members of the same party

gloomy lagoon
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Dis shit

weary silo
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it's kinda like WoW's system

blissful pagoda
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and it was meta for like what

gloomy lagoon
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took like +2Y

blissful pagoda
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3 months?

weary silo
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where you can trade loot for a limited time between your party members

gloomy lagoon
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and that was me playing every day and farming at least 2h per day

weary silo
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the journey to endgame is quite relaxing in this game

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you don't have to run one specific activity for usable loot

gloomy lagoon
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anyway.... I'm kinda midly upset that I spent so much on D2

weary silo
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you can farm open world. you can do summit. you can do countdown. you can do retaliations.

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about the only gripe i have with this game is that it's 3rd person lol

gloomy lagoon
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tbh, 3rd person isn't exactly too dealbreaking

gloomy lagoon
weary silo
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ymmv about the general setting of the game tho

gloomy lagoon
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Div 2 has an ok drip system as well right? Fashion is real endgame CATGRIN

empty estuary
weary silo
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i'm not too sure about drip lol. didn't pay too much attention to it

this is the apparel system ig

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nevermind my raincoat

empty estuary
gloomy lagoon
blissful pagoda
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I’m still using regular equipment and free apparels

weary silo
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btw i didn't spend a single cent for all the apparel

gloomy lagoon
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easy enough to get to "workable stats"

empty estuary
weary silo
# gloomy lagoon easy enough to get to "workable stats"

yeah it's easy to get workable stats. most farming routes will get you around 60-80% of the way there to max stats. once in a blue moon you find some that are almost max stats. there is a system that uses expensive material to max out stats on the equipment of your choice

empty estuary
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Its a good game, but it makes you griiiiind

hollow comet
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one gorjillion billion years to stack all into red and crit

weary silo
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like i said, the meta builds are actually very easy to assemble and even minmax

gloomy lagoon
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and I'm talking about D2 "Icarus grip" nonsense shit

weary silo
empty estuary
weary silo
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ah great

gloomy lagoon
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problem for future me

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which is present me at the same time

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why I'm going to mog past me

hollow comet
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presentism smh

empty estuary
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For the $3 that div 2 is going for, youll get your moneys worth

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Its a good game

weary silo
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also, you can save ingame loadouts. and div2 had that feature before forbidden game did

empty estuary
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Its just got quirks cause i dont think anyone intended for it to go on this long

gloomy lagoon
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wait... is Div 2 as old as WF? Or with a similar lifespan?

hollow comet
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no

empty estuary
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No its much younger

empty estuary
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2019 for div 2

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2016 for div 1

gloomy lagoon
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ah, but basically the IP and core concept has been around for a while

empty estuary
gloomy lagoon
weary silo
gloomy lagoon
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I thought Div 2 was around the same age as Fortnite

weary silo
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but way more... liberties i guess

empty estuary
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I think div 2 is part of the whole ubisoft universe now

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Theyre all loosely intertwined now i think

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I know far cry is at least

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I need to double check on AC tho

weary silo
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i see STALKER 2 drip in the shop and drool

balmy mason
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AC and Watch Dogs is in the same universe

empty estuary
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Thats it

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Ac + WD
FC + Div (and probably the other clancy games)

balmy mason
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What ties Div and FC

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I never played any FC game

weary silo
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i don't think farcry has any ties to clancyverse o_O

empty estuary
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That gas shit thats in far cry 5 is used by one of the factions in Div 2 iirc

weary silo
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huh? bliss?

empty estuary
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Yeah

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Maybe im misremembering

hollow comet
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the hyenas?

empty estuary
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But i couldve sworn that was mentioned

hollow comet
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they do huff the fart gas

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idk if it's the same thing though

weary silo
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i don't think it's bliss, it seems to be a stimulant of some sort, bliss is like a brainwashing gas

empty estuary
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Maybe its just the different Clancy games then

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Cause that is definitely all connected cause sam fisher is in Ghost Recon and R6

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And div is just there

weary silo
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oh the gas is called Spice in div

hollow comet
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caveira was also in a ghost recon game

empty estuary
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Im sure ubi is locked and loaded to toss aaron keener into r6 the next time the player count gets dire

hollow comet
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hatsune miku joins team Rainbow

gloomy lagoon
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Miku joins R6 after Fortnite.... what a time

empty estuary
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I remember one time i said i lost interest in r6 cause they ditched the realism, someone told me it was still there, so i reinstalled and was greeted by rick and morty skins

hollow comet
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the skins are so absurd

gloomy lagoon
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I played exactly one match of R6 and I still stand by my principle

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it is not a game you want to play

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it is a game you get invited after playing with a comp clan

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since chat was like LoL

weary silo
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well with red storm entertainment not making games anymore i doubt it will happen

wanton wasp
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came in with a green kiy

balmy mason
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How do you exfil

wanton wasp
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get to level 3 and then find a scanner terminal

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itl shhow an exfil terminal then you gotta book it to the exfil that it reveals

empty estuary
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Oh the reward for killing the compiler is kinda cool

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Underwhelming, but cool

wanton wasp
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what is it?

empty estuary
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||you get the compiler's core, as well as its laser as a weapon, its basically a d2 trace rifle||

loud compass
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Let me rook into marathon bungie, itll be funny

empty estuary
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Oh also theres an exclusive runner skin for killing the compiler and exfiling

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Its not a drop from the boss itself but its a codex reward

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I wonder if the ||compiler laser will be good for killing the compiler again and again, kinda like touch of malice in d1 for kings fall||

blissful pagoda
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Its rick and morty costumes

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as a skin

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so you get oh jeez! soyfacing while the guy tbags your dead body

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I dont get it

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Other IPs the whole deal was the operator was basically dressed up as the character

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but for rick and morty they stick a fucking rick or morty head on the operator

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halloween ass costume

runic yarrow
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They turned me into a pickle

empty estuary
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Man i suck at outpost

finite jetty
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Also hows Crimson Desert

runic yarrow
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Still looking at reviews and the devs still patching a bunch of stuff so the wait ain't too bad

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HOWEVER I am upset they made the tutorial puzzle easier cuz ppl kept crying it was too hard

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The yellow paint gamers strike again

empty estuary
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Dilbert

round fable
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it took 10 hours for people to get to the compiler and 4 hours later i think it's still not defeated?

round fable
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ok so it seems you need to open all the vaults to get all the subroutines to even fight the compiler

blissful pagoda
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Why cant anybody even kill compiler yet

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is this some fuckass [redacted] like from the hitgame [redacted] 2

round fable
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it's not mechanics i think

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the mechanics seem pretty easy

blissful pagoda
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mechanics

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alright

round fable
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it's just a lot of health and he deals a lot of damage

blissful pagoda
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I heard enough

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nerf Shiv

round fable
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they're like

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put a battery in a terminal i think

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but also you need to get the battery from outside the fight

#

tbh i hope bungie doesn't nerf him

#

it's cool to have a crazy endgame goal to look forward to in a 3 month long season

#

oh the official bungie stream with milo casting is ending

#

that's sad

round fable
#

ok so to my understanding:
opening vaults 1-6 (requires the keys from the other maps) and solving their puzzles gives you an ai subroutine, once you get each of them you unlock a codex entry and once you get all of them you can fight the compiler

round fable
wanton wasp
#

Yeah

round fable
#

i haven't seen a video of the clear

wanton wasp
#

Drops some.neat stuff

round fable
#

and milo was talking about it like it's still a race

round fable
round fable
#

i have one key (idr which) but i am also completely broke for dying twice in there yesterday so i gotta rebuild before i go back in

#

the map is amazing tho

wanton wasp
#

If you scroll up that was a green kit run

#

Lost the bully and the misraih eventually but Im up massively

round fable
#

how did you even get to 5k with greens

wanton wasp
#

The two randoms I found were fucking cracked

round fable
wanton wasp
#

Yesh

round fable
#

btw do we know what the lab with the lockdown field has

#

we ran into it yesterday but didn't go in

wanton wasp
#

Dire marsh lockdowns?

#

You gotta do them three times, the loot gets better each time eventually giving you a purple salvage I think

weary silo
#

@blissful pagoda here's what a prototype lex with all upgraded stats looks like

round fable
wanton wasp
#

Oh that's what you mean

#

Not sure

#

Lab 6-7 are there

#

Sorry vault

round fable
#

i just watched snazzy go in

#

why is there parkour

rain tundra
#

Marathon

#

@empty estuary did you escape cryo successfully

#

Or even try your luck on that murder fest

#

No one makes it out alive

wanton wasp
#

You just gotta kill the other teams

rain tundra
#

That’s not even the problem 😭😭

#

Have you played the map or just chatting

wanton wasp
#

Played and exfilled multiple times

#

Kill the other teams so you can loot in peace and not worry about getting shot in the back when scrambling for exfil

rain tundra
#

For a third party

wanton wasp
#

Yeah that's how I played last

rain tundra
#

Or do u need 2 as well first

#

I see

wanton wasp
#

We get to 1-2 depending on where you spawn

#

Sneak the dogs and profit

#

You want 3+ for exfil

#

It's a really big map though

rain tundra
#

On god and the map is weird as shit

#

😭

round fable
#

i am so scared for season 2

rain tundra
#

Holy hell

#

That picture of the whole marathon ship and the yellow blob where we are is scary af😭

round fable
#

remember this ship is built inside the moon deimos

rain tundra
#

I don’t even understand that shit I need to tap into the lore cause that sounds so cool

round fable
#

marathon 2 (releasing 2050) will feature an open world uesc marathon map

round fable
#

they just used it to build a ship in

rain tundra
#

How do you build a ship INSIDE a moon

#

I get it if it’s on the moon

round fable
#

uhh you drill a big hole in it?

#

deimos is the big rock around the marathon

rain tundra
#

It’s making sense now

#

After looking at the picture

#

😂

#

Cool stuff

round fable
#

tbh i think it made more sense in the orignal trilogy

#

i haven't played those but i think there deimos was the whole frame of the ship

#

in the new one it's just kinda there for aura purposes i guess?

wanton wasp
#

I hope we get more pfhor

round fable
#

i hope this game lives to the point where we look back at the compiler and say "yeah this is like really easy now actually"

round fable
#

ngl i probably won't play ranked this weekend

#

i'll be too busy with cryo

wanton wasp
#

Same

mental brook
#

I also am too busy with cryo

wanton wasp
#

I'll probably wait until next week for the vaults

#

I'll try and get all 6 keys

#

Not sure if 7 exists

round fable
#

i think you get the key for 7 from a codex entry after you get all 6 subroutines

#

7 is just the boss arena

wanton wasp
#

True

#

Btw codex stuff doesn't wipe I believe

#

Unless they specifically wipe the ai subroutines

round fable
#

i mean

#

would you even want to fight the compiler immediately after the wipe

#

i guess you won't need to get all the vault keys again in the new season

cold musk
#

I love red

mental brook
cold musk
#

Yeee blue is pretty

mental brook
#

Gotta represent the Ruthards and Rosa

#

Top 3 of the houses in the game easily

loud compass
#

crimson desert is pretty good

jagged pulsar
#

Are the destiny servers up and do you need Xbox gold to play?

loud compass
jagged pulsar
loud compass
#

ur asking the one channel with probably the least amount of active destiny players

round fable
hidden pulsar
#

Real

cold musk
mental brook
#

You're just red

cold musk
#

ah i do like leipas colours

#

black n yellow

mental brook
#

Like the overcoat and horse cover

cold musk
#

oh fr? seen a vid of it thoght it was mod

mental brook
#

Nah its legit

#

Love the Leipa colours

cold musk
#

This is one of my favourite styles

#

Or I do love jezakes outfit too

mental brook
cold musk
#

i mean im only borrowing it :3

#

i only stole his armour AND horse

mental brook
#

Tbf that horse is easily top 5 best horses

cold musk
#

Iirc it’s the fastest horse too

#

And phantom horse has highest carrying capacity

mental brook
#

There's a couple faster

#

But have like no carry weight

cold musk
mental brook
cold musk
#

Yee I just love the yelllow one I’ll try to find a full red cover one

balmy mason
#

This is better than watching sport 🤣

round fable
balmy mason
#

If dude ever gets tired of puzzles he has a glowing career opportunity in that 🤣

#

The mechanic of the fight seems very simple?

#

Interact with 3 terminals, standing in a bubble to pop boss' shield then DPS

finite jetty
#

Off topicers

weary silo
#

ok funny af thumbnail

balmy mason
#

Oh wow, is that Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history?

formal gull
weary silo
#

hahaha

#

he has a history of being baffled at bungie weapon designs

mental brook
#

One of these days he'll realise it's not real

weary silo
#

it's just the curse of people working in technical jobs i guess, if you know the stuff you kinda notice stuff is off

steep frost
#

He pointed out something was wrong in the hunt showdown and the devs went in and fixed it

weary silo
#

oh yea the sharps carbine thing

balmy mason
#

I'm never hitting gold in Cryo 🤣

bright crown
#

OH MY GOD @empty estuary @zenith blaze @blissful pagoda

blissful pagoda
#

nice

ebon dew
#

Lamp!!!

graceful quartz
#

I want the durr burger mug

blissful pagoda
#

holymoly

balmy mason
#

Corpocult, that's a cool word

blissful pagoda
#

@sleek kraken

#

i did it.

sleek kraken
#

Peak

blissful pagoda
#

the great war bond is mine

sleek kraken
#

The new smg is fucking heat

balmy mason
#

Can you actually dig trenches? CATGRIN

mental brook
#

They should've added an eagle that does that

#

Or like a long mine strip

balmy mason
#

I know there's the shovel, was wondering if the trench warbond has something that's more efficient CATGRIN

mental brook
#

Sadly no

runic yarrow
#

@buoyant moon HYPERS

#

The leaks were real

balmy mason
#

Was the first one any good

runic yarrow
#

It was very good

#

Best Minecraft spin off game

#

It's basically a rpg with rougelite elements

buoyant moon
#

this actually makes me happy

#

thank you

runic yarrow
#

np gng , have a nuka cola

buoyant moon
runic yarrow
#

In fall is crazy tho , I want it now lol

celest finch
#

@lavish forge like heygrape

lavish forge
#

Hi

runic yarrow
#

Hi 👋🏽

celest finch
# lavish forge Hi

Just saying… if you’ve been regular for like a phat minute you should get like a little plus sign or something! It’d be really cute! Regular+Smug

lavish forge
#

That would take quite a bit of work to automate it

celest finch
#

Sadness and despair

vagrant summit
#

bit of work for fairly little gained, that's not high on the priority list

runic yarrow
#

I've been around for a minute , it doesn't seem worth it

fossil patrol
#

I suppose paragon in itself is similar to a "regular+"

runic yarrow
#

How does one get paragon again ?

weary silo
#

wtf i didn't expect to clear heroic retaliation with this build

celest finch
weary silo
#

just made this really wacky build lmao

runic yarrow
#

Become an admin so you can campaign for it

celest finch
#

Venetia would quake

runic yarrow
celest finch
#

@lavish forge Smug

vagrant summit
fossil patrol
runic yarrow
#

Is the leaderboard rank determined by engagement in the server or how long you've been in it ?

sleek kraken
#

How many messages youve sent

runic yarrow
#

Damn

#

Then I'm low on the rankings

balmy mason
runic yarrow
#

That too

#

It has a handful of different genre elements

empty estuary
#

if you want a casual ARPG experience id recommend just playing diablo 4 instead

fossil patrol
balmy mason
#

How tf can someone get up to lvl 33 and so damn clueless

#

Even ignored final exfil

runic yarrow
balmy mason
#

At the end me and the Destroyer just sprinted to final exfil, leaving them behind

runic yarrow
#

That's tuff

round fable
balmy mason
#

Not even Cryo

#

I was doing contract in Perimeter

round fable
#

did they also have a perimeter contract

#

because other than that there's like no reason to play perimeter after a certain point

balmy mason
#

Yes

#

We were spamming ping at their contract objective

#

But they were absolutely clueless

#

At the end we just gave up and sprinted for final exfil

#

Which they also missed

round fable
#

im trying to get to my objective and the randoms are hell bent on going to the other side of the map for no reason

balmy mason
#

We were done with my contract early

#

So I was trying to help them with theirs

#

Terminal in North and South relay, then second floor Hauler

#

But for some reason their braincells went on strike by Hauler

wanton wasp
#

My cyac and Arachne are almost level 30 :)

round fable
balmy mason
#

No idea

round fable
#

it's pretty early

#

and nucal contracts straight up give you purple shields so bro is genuinely clueless for not doing them until 33

balmy mason
#

No it's Traxus

wanton wasp
balmy mason
#

Oh wait

#

Yeah it's NuCal

#

Feel kinda bad to leave this crew I'm running with to duo in a trio lobby

round fable
#

speaking of duos i wonder how the duo queue is doing numbers wise

balmy mason
#

But my contract requires me to exfil and there's a sniper camping at my exfil, so I took my chance and bailed

round fable
#

i haven't touched it at all

balmy mason
#

Also, apparently body bag can also trigger exfil count down

round fable
#

oh

#

ive definitely seen that

balmy mason
#

One of my team was shot down within the circle and it still continues counting

round fable
#

got killed once right before it started

balmy mason
#

So I grappled into it at the last second

round fable
#

but i assumed that was a visual thing

balmy mason
#

Nope, it's legit

round fable
balmy mason
#

Well at least this one isn't single run

#

I can just bring my own in

empty estuary
#

Div 2 wont stop dropping me stregas

#

I just want my dtoc st elmos

wanton wasp
#

Btw the ai subroutines aren't guaranteed

#

For the vaults

round fable
weary silo
wanton wasp
#

Makes sense

round fable
#

but also bungie hasn't spoken about it yet so might be intended?

#

they're probably going to change it either way

weary silo
#

strega isn't too bad of an exotic rifle though

empty estuary
round fable
#

near mr krabs moment

balmy mason
#

They really want the sweatiest of sweats

round fable
#

apparently it is intended and they are looking at it

round fable
balmy mason
#

But still, don't you need the gold keys in other maps?

round fable
#

it's meant to be a goal for the whole season

balmy mason
#

Well, I've come to term with the fact that I'll probably never get to touch that content

round fable
#

how i see it you'll spend your weekends using the loot and keys you built up over the week to attempt vaults

balmy mason
#

Same with the raids in [redacted]

round fable
#

and ultimately you fight the compiler probably once

wanton wasp
round fable
#

you have to go to the codex to even unlock vault 7

wanton wasp
#

Yeah no true, you don't have enough batteries/cells/timen

round fable
#

like if you did all 6 for the first time in the same run you'd still have to exfil

#

but yeah that's not even possible most likely

wanton wasp
#

The compiler has an exfil

round fable
#

i mean exfil to claim the codex entry

wanton wasp
#

You also gotta get to level 5 as there is a second?? Loot room I think

round fable
weary silo
round fable
balmy mason
#

The world first team did come back and open that last room after the Compiler

balmy mason
round fable
#

btw all the batteries and key items are very cod zombies like

wanton wasp
round fable
#

also on the whole thing of the compiler being an unattainable goal

#

cryo in general has a lot of good stuff even outside the vaults

#

just getting to level 4 gets you 40k credits for the whole team if you go to the bottom of the big hole

wanton wasp
#

Oh really???

#

Of that's right the compiler trace

round fable
#

yeah there's a contraband valuable that gives 40k to everyone on exfil

wanton wasp
#

Also where's the armoury?

#

I need to start doing that, I'm kinda broke rn with 60k

balmy mason
#

You 2 gotta carry me through a Cryo run sometime CATGRIN

round fable
balmy mason
#

I only care for the valuable that give lore entries tbh

round fable
#

idk i haven't been there

wanton wasp
#

I care about killing people and looting

#

Also misraih is your friend

#

It's fucking amazing

balmy mason
#

Is it the other shotgun

#

Only got it once during the slam, which I swiftly lost the run afterward

round fable
#

yeah

wanton wasp
#

It's the pump

#

It's way better since the wstr nerf

round fable
wanton wasp
#

Mine has 14 metres

#

Two taps purple shields

round fable
#

but yeah even on your weekly free kit you can get a lot of good stuff on this map

wanton wasp
#

The blue kit?

round fable
#

yeah

wanton wasp
#

Also I lost a purple bully with thermal last evening :(

#

Still up huge tho

round fable
#

i didn't exfil on my run with it but we all had it and we got pretty far

wanton wasp
#

5 purple shields in my inven and like 8 purple packs

loud compass
#

amogus

balmy mason
#

My last venture there didn't end well

#

Got 3rd partied

weary silo
#

@empty estuary @blissful pagoda @balmy mason bruh this optimization surge event even applies to crafting optimization materials. you get double of whatever you would get before

balmy mason
#

Woah that's crazy. Would be huge if I was still playing DogKek

wanton wasp
#

3-10k gear ante for ranked

#

Bottom 3 ranks is 3k and top 3 ranks is 10k

weary silo
#

guess this AK is a breath of fresh air

empty estuary
hallow hawk
#

bought it to play with a friend like

#

2 weeks ago

empty estuary
#

Not like im ever gonna see 30 expertise for proto gear anyways though CATGRIN

hallow hawk
#

from what i saw the prototype gear is heavily RNG-dependant

empty estuary
#

And quite a bit stronger

ebon dew
#

I like cereal

weary silo
#

yeah it is stronger, 50% more stats isn't something to sneeze at. but given the grind requirements, maybe people will be reasonable and don't gatekeep lol

zenith blaze
full saddle
round fable
#

no way psn is down

#

i hate sony so much

#

hey i got in

vale pendant
full saddle
#

peak is on sale

pine swan
#

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~˚✧。mindset: I respect people who improve themselves or their work quietly, letting results speak

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~˚✧。little challenge: if you’re a silent builder, drop a hint 👀

~˚✧。vibe: calm reflection, deep conversations, subtle inspiration

cedar pumice
#

What in the

jade sundial
wanton wasp
#

Bruh

slow galleon
frosty yew
wanton wasp
cedar pumice
#

🫡

ashen shore
zenith blaze
#

glue make no noise, hammer make many noise

olive steeple
#

glue works if you make stuff thats doesnt have to support anything

ashen shore
weary silo
vale pendant
#

i’ve only sunk 30 hrs in

full saddle
#

@bright crown CAT

#

CAT LOOK

#

300 FUCKIN VBUCKS

bright crown
weary silo
frosty yew
weary silo
#

Yeah thats the thing. They want it back to that dark era for some reason

frosty yew
#

i mean... rng and grinding in a game based around rng and grinding... who would've thunk it

weary silo
#

Ngl i want to be wrong but it seems like ubisoft might pivot to p2w, maybe they will sell recalibration methods for prototypes that are real cash only or something

frosty yew
#

i get that people have gotten used to/comfortable with recalibration, optimization, targeted loot etc etc but prototype gear seems like it'll only have relevance for the highest level of the game

weary silo
frosty yew
#

all being said i got bored of the repetitiveness of div 2

#

especially with the seasonal model

weary silo
#

Thats fair

#

I really like retaliation though

frosty yew
#

like unless its changed imma guess the current season is

do 4 objectives per week
weeks 3, 6 and 9 are targets with 9 being the big bad

weary silo
#

This season is anniversary events only iirc

#

No story, just constant bonus events and exp

#

At least from what i saw

summer barn
#

New hulk juggle tech mastered

#

Time to never use it in a game because hulk is still ass

#

Also figured out the spider man pull technique

weary silo
# frosty yew like unless its changed imma guess the current season is do 4 objectives per we...

This part is the relevant offending part


One attribute is guaranteed to be maxed at the new Prototype maximum value

The other attributes remain at their previous maximum values

There is a chance for additional attributes to also roll at the new Prototype maximum

Because of this, you may need to upgrade multiple versions of the same item to obtain the combination of attributes you want.```
summer barn
#

Never gonna use that either because I suck with spider man

mild anchor
summer barn
#

Just give us lore accurate hulk

#

He'll fit right in

wanton wasp
#

HOLY FUCK WHAT A CLUTCH BRO, went in with such a cheap green kit

#

got out last minute

summer barn
#

Or give us Kluh

mild anchor
#

Unironically just make him cc immune in his ult.

summer barn
#

I'd rather take Kluh

summer barn
frosty yew
mild anchor
#

Hit ult legit just turns him into a fat target.

summer barn
#

He has the most fun ult in the game, that's probably why the dev team hates it so much

#

There's no dopamine rush like juggling the enemy tank off the map

weary silo
# frosty yew that just sounds like them complaining about grinding in a grinding game <:shrug...

Eh i dunno. Just because the main gameplay loop is grinding doesnt mean that there cant be too much grinding.

You gotta farm the item with the correct stats minus one, then fully optimize it, then fully expertise it (94 exotic components btw)

THEN you get a chance to see whether that was worth it by converting to prototype. Guaranteed 1 stat to new maximum, 3% chance for 2 stats to new maximum, 0.3% chancd for 3 stats to new maximum.

buoyant moon
#

You have the farm the same weapon over and over again to get the .1 upgrade

weary silo
#

And thats only for one build lol.

#

Got the perfect prototype weapon for your strikers? Now do it again for your heartbreakers build since you need one with flatline

buoyant moon
#

It's like of you wanted to farm a specific masterwork on a weapon, but also needed the right perk rolls

hollow comet
buoyant moon
#

The only complaint is not being able to recalibrate or optimize

#

Otherwise prototypes are fine

weary silo
#

Its not like prototype drops which get random stat ranges from high end max to prototype max

#

Can't optimize as well..

empty estuary
#

When it takes waaaaay more time to get to SHD 1000 and Expertise 30 than it does to formulate a build where your knowledge of the game and mastery matters, it feels like a timewaster

#

Id rather grind more for the loot itself than the stat bumps

empty estuary
#

this tavern is so cool

buoyant moon
#

Me trying to figure out what game this is

cedar pumice
#

Clearly Solitaire

blissful pagoda
#

no it's definitely balatro

wanton wasp
#

30k vault value down the Cryo grinder

#

:(

steep frost
#

It’s just money

#

You can get it back

loud compass
buoyant moon
#

"man"

wanton wasp
# steep frost It’s just money

Yeah we just kept getting unlucky, either getting third partied right after we thrashed a team or they just spam nades from the heavens

#

It's not like I lost anything actually valuable, it's just that if I got out my vault would of had like 10 purple shields

slow galleon
full saddle
#

@bright crown finally locked in and did some of my story 😭

#

wow, thanks 😭

wanton wasp
#

Mind you the actual good stuff like my purple shotties and such are all safe and cosy in my vault

bright crown
#

now you just gotta get to PL124 to fight the mythic storm king

#

and get the storm king weps

full saddle
#

the rewards from this are so bad 😭

#

Anthony isnt even a good hero

slow galleon
full saddle
bright crown
#

stand fight lobby music

#

you have it now

#

its so peak

full saddle
#

off to twine i go

ebon dew
#

Egg

#

I mean, lamp

fierce nymph
rain tundra
#

Shed your skiiiiiinnn

fierce nymph
#

HuH?

loud compass
#

once i get the dragon photo mode is going to be insane

cold musk
loud compass
cold musk
#

ahh that looks intersting

lavish forge
#

What’s up with crimson desert constantly resetting all of my settings

cold musk
#

what type of game is it?

loud compass
#

idek how to describe it

lavish forge
loud compass
#

like a medieval fantasy rdr2 on steroids minus the good writing

cold musk
#

ngl idek if i hv played black desert

lavish forge
#

BD is an mmo

#

This pretty much plays like an MMO, but singleplayer

cold musk
#

is it a open world or lineaer?

loud compass
#

open world

cold musk
#

ahh i like that word

#

i might get it

rain tundra
#

Gang

bright crown
#

@zenith blaze @empty estuary @full saddle

#

THERE IT BE

#

FULLY CUSTOMIZABLE

full saddle
#

doesnt have the stuff i want unfortunately

#

cant make the man face with it

bright crown
#

STILL SO CUTE

gloomy lagoon
#

OFC

#

that's what you choose to do with the Peak skin

bright crown
#

WHAT THE FUCK @full saddle

#

THE HELL AM I LOOKING AT

gloomy lagoon
#

they only aim farther and higher

#

even if the objective is like 1 tile in front of them

bright crown
#

see this would make sense in like FROSTNITE

#

but its a random vbuck mission lmao

gloomy lagoon
#

two things come to mind

#

the builder banner icon

#

or just trying to get high builder score for research

bright crown
#

thats true

#

probably reseaarch

#

cause for things people dont have

#

that research thing is gonna be a MAJOR help for new players come the free to play launch

full saddle
#

holy waste of mats

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nothing attacks those atlas

gloomy lagoon
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IIRC... aren't the love lobbers already gone?

full saddle
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yea

gloomy lagoon
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yep, super absurd then for why they'll build such a large lobber shield

full saddle
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its a floating atlas

bright crown
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a lobber shield that big makes sense for frostnite cause of how long you'd be running

full saddle
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stuff doesnt attack that

bright crown
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but for regular missions thats like the biggest waste of mats

red slate
balmy mason
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This is why people are hesitant about extraction shooter 😭

red slate
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@bright crown are you not supposed to be able to see the mission badge progress now

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hud looks better than when I last played but shows less shit than I remember

rain tundra
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Old heads are never trusting a single soul again

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😭😭

red slate
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so you would know how much you still had to do for platinum

bright crown
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Ah yeah I actually dont know i didnt hear anything about them getting removed

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Might be a bug

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Cause they are 100% still there

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Might be bugged visually