✨destiny-discussion

[dawn meadow]

Dms or #☀️off-topic-discussion

[cobalt bear]

part of me wants to play destiny but idk if its worth it just yet

[dawn meadow]

dO IT

Do it

[formal kite]

We are so far beyond Resonance that it's completely obsolete to us.

[dawn meadow]

Just have fun

[sour prawn]

also is there a site to see all loot tables or something, idk how many diff things there are to currently get in like solo portal missions etc

[warm glade]

It will be worth it after the update

[cobalt bear]

DONT SHOUT AT ME!

[cerulean imp]

Oh lol

[warm glade]

Also it's the final update you might as well play

[dawn meadow]

I don't think so rn

[dawn meadow]

I just did

[ripe sparrow]

Only noobs use resonance

[cerulean imp]

Is there anything else that could be a darkness subclass then? I thought I remember seeing some thing that showed there was a third one

[cobalt bear]

rood

[dry yacht]

yeah ik but new to that activity. raid and dungeons are bungies best activities. u should lfg sometime!

[maiden meadow]

Dungeon and raid ones are pinned in #📘pve-playbook. Otherwise, I don't think so.

[ripe sparrow]

No

it was never in plan

[latent valve]

I got my praxic title ages ago but forgot to try to farm for the actual exotic weapon of the dungeon

[formal kite]

Not really.

[maiden meadow]

Shattered Vault (.com) has portal loot, I think

[formal kite]

And if you saw a "third darkness subclass" it was fake.

[analog gulch]

Let me have nightmare subclass and my power will be summoning moon ghosts that foxy jumpscare enemies

[cobalt bear]

[formal kite]

Bungie confirmed the red subclass was never real.

[balmy field]

can i post a petition link?

[cobalt bear]

bonk the mod

[ripe sparrow]

Aztecross clip farming videos:

[broken widget]

Light.gg use to have it idk anymore

[maiden meadow]

For what?

[analog gulch]

[maiden meadow]

The anti-petition I started?

[cobalt bear]

chat bonk veno they need it

[latent valve]

the reaction video to the reaction of a reaction video reacting, stuff is nonsense

[ripe sparrow]

The Witness being The Winnower is already a lost media

[dawn meadow]

Fuck I do

[cerulean imp]

I thought I remember seeing a mural that looked like it was in game showing there was a third color on the side of darkness and prismatic in the middle. Could easily be fake tho

[maiden meadow]

That is real

[cobalt bear]

the witness isnt the winnower tho?

[ripe sparrow]

Oh that was Rhulk making fun of us

[ripe sparrow]

OK IT REALLY IS LOST MEDIA

No The Witness IS NOT The Winnower

.

[formal kite]

We were most likely never going to see the Winnower anyway.

[cerulean imp]

Oh

What a asshole

[cobalt bear]

chat hunter warlock or titan what one do i log in to?

[ripe sparrow]

Cause he is literally shapeless in our own universe also an ideology and a rule

[cerulean imp]

That’s why he’s a pack 😂

[ripe sparrow]

[analog gulch]

The winnower is like a primordial concept

[analog gulch]

Did he ever give the vibe he was not an asshole

[formal kite]

The best class. You should already know the answer.

[ripe sparrow]

He is the sword logic

basically

[cobalt bear]

am i right in thinking the winnower is basically the embodiment of darkness?

[balmy field]

close d2

[marble raptor]

titan

[cerulean imp]

No but don’t get my hopes up for more stuff..

[ripe sparrow]

Yes

[formal kite]

No, the Winnower isn't the darkness.

[cerulean imp]

Yeah it was like orange/reddish

[cobalt bear]

then where did the darkness come from cause the light comes from the traveller

[ripe sparrow]

Not the darkness but darkness

[cerulean imp]

No

[formal kite]

Darkness and Light are just natural forces of the universe.

[maiden meadow]

Nah, that stands even less of a chance than the start D3 one

[cobalt bear]

ok explain it to me then

[cerulean imp]

Are the guardians the light equivalent of the witness ?

[cobalt bear]

wait i swear ive asked this before

[ripe sparrow]

The rule that The Gardener purposed for the creation

btw

paracausality

[maiden meadow]

...no

[cerulean imp]

As in, how there’s the darkness and light, the traveler and veil.. I don’t get it💀

[marble raptor]

more like the opposite. using light and darkness to keep the universe in motion

[ripe sparrow]

Basically The WInnower always chose the meta
and always won

so The Gardener was like

Man fuck this guy

lemme do something else

[marble raptor]

nah Imma do my own thing. gif

[formal kite]

Yesn't

[dry yacht]

this is strangely so accuarte

[cobalt bear]

so what darkness and light are just natural forces?

[ripe sparrow]

cause it is lol

[formal kite]

The Witness, like us, is just another piece in the game.

[marble raptor]

he's just like endgame d2 players

[ripe sparrow]

it literally happens to us with Bungie team whenever we find a broken meta

[formal kite]

The difference is the Witness was the first.

It was the first piece.

[cobalt bear]

that the winnower and the traveller can wield and imbue their followers with it?

[formal kite]

The First Knife.

[ripe sparrow]

The Biggest Fraud.

[marble raptor]

yes. neither are good or bad

[formal kite]

I don't think I'd call the Witness a fraud in the slightest.

[cerulean imp]

He’s a bum, not a fraud

[dry yacht]

btw guys the final shape winnower gardener stuff game of life thing is actually super fascinating in relation to what inspired it: Conways game fo life

[cerulean imp]

Big difference

[formal kite]

Wouldn't call it a bum either.

[ripe sparrow]

How can you be the strongest being in the universe and still lose

😭

[dry yacht]

Conways game of life provides heavy evidence that emergence is an intrinsic property of mathematics and therefore the universe

[marble raptor]

we're stronger

[ripe sparrow]

I would literally kill myself cause of that

[ripe sparrow]

No.

[dry yacht]

emergence is seriously one of the most fascinating things in all of science

complexity arissing from simplicity in essence

[marble raptor]

not the guardian, I mean we: those fighting for good

[cobalt bear]

so i guess then worshippers being worshippers they think the oppisite force bad

[cerulean imp]

I call it a bum cause it’s a massive hypocrite

[dry yacht]

its a philsophical proof for abiogensis in evolution and many other things

[formal kite]

An entire army of multiple peoples were against it, we used the power of darkness (memory) to rip it apart piece by piece, then used the Light to strike the final blow.

[analog gulch]

Also the internal conflict of the witness, it was not United

[marble raptor]

yes, just like real life

[ripe sparrow]

So he was ignorant too

wow

[analog gulch]

Imagine part of your mind started biting you and pulling you right when you want to turn left

[ripe sparrow]

Imagine having an army of people that were against you for billions of years and still not be able to assimilate them

[formal kite]

Would like to state, if everyone in the universe was present in the Pale Heart, they'd all be against the Witness in that final battle.

[maiden meadow]

meow

[formal kite]

Well...that's not completely true.

I suppose the Sol Divisive actually supported the Witness.

[cobalt bear]

also anyone notice how the veil and the traveller look as if they go together?

[analog gulch]

The scorn and taken too

[ripe sparrow]

The Witness was ignorant, arogant, liar, bum

[formal kite]

Do I have the cutscene for you.

[ripe sparrow]

anything else

[analog gulch]

It might seem crazy what I’m about to say

[marble raptor]

yes... that's how the witness got into the traveller.....

[cerulean imp]

Ugly

[ripe sparrow]

Mogs most villains imo

Rhulk is canonically the best looking

personally

[marble raptor]

destiny 2 players when lore happens: Stevie Wonder

[analog gulch]

Arrogance won us at least 2 major battles in the endgame

[cobalt bear]

no i mean the end of the veil looks like it could fit the traveller in it

[analog gulch]

Rhulk for example should not have lost

[cerulean imp]

Idk what hate I’ll get but I personally love how Maya looks

[ripe sparrow]

Cause they were once together

thats why

[marble raptor]

if I say that crota is on my hear me out cake-

[ripe sparrow]

you found ur asnwer

[formal kite]

We do not know that.

[lofty minnow]

He's Aussie haha

[formal kite]

Also, it's not that big.

[cerulean imp]

She looked so good in the cinematics

[ripe sparrow]

I mean cmon

[lofty minnow]

[cobalt bear]

so what seperated them?

[ripe sparrow]

its just idk

[formal kite]

The Veil is a lot smaller than the Traveler.

[grave quest]

the actress's voice also feels like a good fit for her

[ripe sparrow]

They are paracausal objects they can change size I think

[formal kite]

Like...a LOT smaller.

[ripe sparrow]

also the Veil roots extend

[cerulean imp]

Can the veil make ghost like the traveler

[formal kite]

No.

[ripe sparrow]

No.

[cobalt bear]

just thought id let just you know that im playing titan

[grave quest]

if you dont do the stupid titan melee bullshittery in pvp, you're fine

[formal kite]

The Veil is just a...paracausal plant that showed inhabitants of the universe the darkness and the chaotic nature of the light. A piece in the game.

[cobalt bear]

no of course i dont thats stupid

[ripe sparrow]

How tf did they discovered it

they just went across systems and just found it

thats like finding a nail in sand

😭

[formal kite]

The Precursors were probably just fucking around in space and found it.

[ripe sparrow]

How lucky can you be bro

AND ALSO

[formal kite]

They were already searching for a meaning to life while the Traveler didn't give them one.

[ripe sparrow]

Oh so they were like

[formal kite]

Then the Winnower took it's turn in the game.

[ripe sparrow]

The Winnower didnt do anything actually

it happend cause it had to happend

[cobalt bear]

does the triple slide hammer build count?

[grave quest]

yes

[ripe sparrow]

The Winnower simply had the luck to find its First Knife that he hated all along

The Winnower seemed to have more confidence in Oryx than The Witness

[cobalt bear]

oh so oryx is the first knife?

[formal kite]

Yes, it took it's turn. It's pieces were moved into place. The Gardener changed its rules and like the Winnower foretold, the pieces would fall into the same place.

[formal kite]

No.

The Witness is the First Knife.

[ripe sparrow]

But it wouldnt make sense for that to happend

[errant forge]

The winnower seems to have more confidence in us than the witness lol

[ripe sparrow]

Cause think about it

[formal kite]

Well, yeah, in an unexpected move, we outplayed it.

The game ended with the Final Shape.

[ripe sparrow]

The Winnower simply had the luck to find that The Witness species were delusional

[formal kite]

We prevented the game from ending.

[ripe sparrow]

Precursors were just delusional

[formal kite]

I wouldn't call them delusional.

[cobalt bear]

oh

[quasi nebula]

precursors were the fellas that were playing the "very shitty checkers" game that spawned the Vex, right?

[ripe sparrow]

Having a desire to end the universe cause you find no purpose in it

thats delusion

[cobalt bear]

oh yeah did we ever learn exactly what species the witness was?

[formal kite]

To be plain, the end of the universe was not the goal the Witness had in mind.

[ripe sparrow]

Stagnation

[formal kite]

In collectors edition lorebooks.

[cobalt bear]

i dont have those

[ripe sparrow]

which is eventually the end of the universe

[quasi nebula]

it was more of a side effect, the goal was to "turn off the game" between gardener and whoever, right?

[ripe sparrow]

cause nothing happens and it wont happend forever

[formal kite]

The Precursors were also split up into multiple...factions I suppose.

[ripe sparrow]

They still eliminated all the ones who opposed the idea and they eventually united into one

[quasi nebula]

oh yeah, kinda upset that Spare Rations is turning into Stasis from todays TWAB

[formal kite]

While everyone agreed that the Traveler, or as they called it, the Gardener, offered no meaning to a meaningless life, there were many who never saw it as a problem to begin with.

[ripe sparrow]

I remember a precursor escaped from the unification

[clear mist]

Brooo how can I get renegades for cheap

[quasi nebula]

wait for June 9th

[clear mist]

On ps

[clear mist]

I can’t brooo

[quasi nebula]

money tight, or what?

[formal kite]

It should be known that not all of the Precursors consented to the merging.

[ripe sparrow]

Exactly

[formal kite]

Let alone the Final Shape.

[ripe sparrow]

they were forced

[quasi nebula]

explain life situation, on why you can't wait

[clear mist]

Bc I’m dying in 5 seconds

[quasi nebula]

:/

[clear mist]

If I don’t get renegades

[formal kite]

It's been real, Zeus.

[fresh scroll]

Guardian down!

[quasi nebula]

Today, we celebrate Zeus's funeral

5 seconds have passed

[ripe sparrow]

But still I never understand why The Gardener chose the precursors afterall

were they the first ever species in the universe maybe

[quasi nebula]

In memory of Zeus, we will raid is vault

[formal kite]

Well, that's a story for another time.

[quasi nebula]

and sell off his gear

[formal kite]

Oh wait...

[ripe sparrow]

I suppose they were the first ever in the universe thats why

it planted the seed there

[quasi nebula]

where legendary shards will be given to the smallen

[ripe sparrow]

and with it the game started

[formal kite]

Could've been.

The Precursors are super ancient even compared to the Hive.

[quasi nebula]

Precursors just found the Traveler didn't they?

[ripe sparrow]

In a lore book it is stated that the hive were in the primordial ooze

[formal kite]

Yeah.

[sinful terrace]

Do yall think we will have our old legendary shards back when the update comes out

[ripe sparrow]

when The Witness was around

[sinful terrace]

I had like 7k when they were removed

[ripe sparrow]

thats how old it is

[quasi nebula]

nah, it's just better off being gone

as an internal number

[ripe sparrow]

They just came across it on their system

[formal kite]

You might be thinking of the Worm Gods/Leviathans.

[quasi nebula]

yeah, I recall it was just a random dig they found as they were just minding their own shit

[ripe sparrow]

Wait

Yeah I forgot

[formal kite]

The Hive used to be Krill, which lived up to 10 years at a time.

[quasi nebula]

sorta like just finding the temples in south murica

[formal kite]

Then Taox was like "what if I was a hater just for the love of the game?"

[quasi nebula]

anyway.... I'm more interested in EV focusing

since final update is coming, it should suggest that MOST armor sets are going to return to archive

[formal kite]

Meanwhile, long before that, Rhulk mogged the Leviathans.

[ripe sparrow]

Also the oldest lore book in the game is the one where you have the dialogue between the 2 precursors

[quasi nebula]

only silver I'm probably going to spend on, is the colab sets such as witcher stuff

cuz I know

[formal kite]

Rhulk mewed at them and they said "damn he's got a point."

[quasi nebula]

once licensing expires

that shit isn't returning

and Witcher stuff is just too cool to pass

[ripe sparrow]

Rhulk was the ultimate mogger in Destiny

[formal kite]

Bro was aura farming long before humans existed.

[civic siren]

Seems like we are getting new perks possibly

[quasi nebula]

Rhulk theoretically could had just mogged and finished the job anytime

but he was like "this is boring"

what a long life does to a MF

[sinful terrace]

Instead he got bitched out cause he was too prideful

[ripe sparrow]

The moment you saw Rhulk you know you were fucked

[quasi nebula]

actually wait

[ripe sparrow]

Damn bro

[quasi nebula]

did Rhulk have standards

on just fucking around

[ripe sparrow]

Rhulk could pull any girl he wanted bro

[formal kite]

Probably batshit insane standards.

[ripe sparrow]

that mf was just too good them

[quasi nebula]

because I recall one of the lorebooks stated that he fucked around with one of the races that Witness needed

for centuries

that said race went insane and ended themselves

[ripe sparrow]

He basically had them for training

[formal kite]

Rhulk was never right in the head, but being betrayed by his family multiple times sent him over the edge.

[ripe sparrow]

then he ended them cause they were useless

[formal kite]

The Witness just gave him the power to release all his anger.

[ripe sparrow]

Deep down inside him lies regret

[cobalt bear]

i kinda wanna go back to my liars caliban build is it still good?

[ripe sparrow]

you can literally hear the regret in the last dialogue after you kill him

[formal kite]

I would love to see a pre-rendered cutscene of the Witness meeting Rhulk.

[ripe sparrow]

the one where he explains to you about Lubrae

[quasi nebula]

Rhulk had imposter syndrome

never felt like he was "good enough"

[spare lance]

Yo...10 years ago today we lost harambe...and we lost destiny 10 years after harambe died....coincidence?

[quasi nebula]

even though he was already

[ripe sparrow]

If The Collapse happend with Rhulk leading, the universe wouldve been amber rn

im not trolling

[maiden meadow]

Yes

[quasi nebula]

when the Isekai nation attacked manga and anime into Slopfest we have now

literally, somewhere around 2014-2016

[cobalt bear]

guys is liars caliban still good?

[quasi nebula]

can't comment on caliban

never used it

I'm more of a Gemini jester harasser

I still love my Ticuu

[spare lance]

also, just got my khostov legendary....this thing slaps

[formal kite]

The thing is, Rhulk still wasn't right in the head, which is why he was delegated to babysitting.

[pulsar roost]

A Jester enjoyer... Nice

[formal kite]

But oopsies, he's bad at his job.

[ripe sparrow]

Even The Witness knew it is too much

[quasi nebula]

You don't get radar, THEY don't get radar.

NOBODY GETS RADAR

[ripe sparrow]

Babysitting Savathun

[quasi nebula]

FEAR THE SACRED FLAME DEBUFF

[ripe sparrow]

Is just

[formal kite]

Bro had one job and ended up getting trapped in his pyramid.

[pulsar roost]

Gemini is genuinely free kills on Trials with the right map

[ripe sparrow]

Not his fault

[stoic shadow]

Liars doesn't work on grapple melee anymore and caliban imo is just kinda mid but it's a usable class item if you want to melee spam

[quasi nebula]

he didn't expect any ghost to just go revive her tbh

[ripe sparrow]

All he had to do is empower that Upended

THE UPENDED

[quasi nebula]

like literally

[ripe sparrow]

YES BRO

THE UPENDED

Why cant we just steal it and use it for ourselves

[vivid swan]

I think it ran out of battery

[spare lance]

also, economy being a big reason for destiny being in its current state.....idk what to say

[quasi nebula]

Upended is the weird sky lantern looking thing above the worm, right?

[vivid swan]

And there's no adapter :(

[vivid swan]

Yes

[ripe sparrow]

Rhulk is the only character in Destiny who kidnapped the worm mother and made her A LITERALY GENERATOR.....

[vivid swan]

Rhulk used it to blow up his sun

[ripe sparrow]

A FUCKING GENERATOR

[vivid swan]

Based

[formal kite]

On top of the Upended requiring an unfathomable amount of power...it's an inhumane weapon of mass destruction.

[vivid swan]

Rick mentality

[quasi nebula]

tbh... Upended probably used a different darkness wattage standard

[formal kite]

Of course we're not going to use it.

[quasi nebula]

than what Sol could provide

sorta like how you can't just plug in an EU socket into a US/Canada plug

and..... it's big

[ripe sparrow]

Was it true that if The Dreadnaught exploded it wouldve wiped the whole Sol?

[quasi nebula]

did you not see what it already did in the Ring of Saturn?

that was controlled

[formal kite]

Idk, it's a Throne World.

What happens if you destroy a Throne World?

[quasi nebula]

and yeah, as Red said.

It's a physical Throne world

[ripe sparrow]

Idk ask Rhulk

he wanted to do that

but we stopped him

oh wait

hes dead

[cobalt bear]

must admit one of my favourite memories of destiny was the weekend that the craftening happened that shit was so fun cause of all the crazy combo's people was running around with

[quasi nebula]

I think two options happens

1. it colapses (Mindbender)

2. It becomes "free real-estate"

[formal kite]

Friendly reminder that Rhulk almost came back and had to be nuked.

[ripe sparrow]

My sparrow never does that

idk how that guy managed to perform such feat

[errant forge]

Bro never got the raid sparrows in d1

[quasi nebula]

you know who got done dirty?

Caretaker

intern literally got mogged

[formal kite]

Bro was just vibin.

[quasi nebula]

yep, we could had just left Bro alone

bro didn't even want to be there

[vivid swan]

What happens when yo mama farts

[ripe sparrow]

Rhulk wanted us to kill him...

[formal kite]

Caretaker is the one Scorn I don't hate because bro was just a butler.

[warm glade]

Xenophage catalyst just confirmed

[vivid swan]

WHERE

GIMME

[quasi nebula]

Caretaker was literally "the bookkeeper"

[ripe sparrow]

Rhulk the Goat

[errant forge]

No he didn’t plan for that he just wasn’t taking us seriously till it was too late lol

[vivid swan]

they also just confirmed the return of Trophy Hunter and Steelfeather repeater

[ripe sparrow]

The Witness the Bum

[quasi nebula]

Wait. WAIT WAIT

WHAT?!@!#*(

THAT BEAUTIFUL GUN

[vague compass]

It was more like imagine a group of ants attacking you, you joke about with it, then suddenly you're about to die and there's not much you can do about it

[quasi nebula]

THAT I NEVER SAW

[formal kite]

My first thought as a response to this was Oryx charging up the Dreadnaught attack and it releasing the reverb fart sound effect.

[quasi nebula]

because I joined 1 season too late

[ripe sparrow]

I meant the caretaker not Rhulk

[quasi nebula]

Steelfeather is my DREAM auto

[dawn meadow]

Chatters!

[vivid swan]

I'll post it in pets cuz idk where else allows pictures

[quasi nebula]

questions and media?

[errant forge]

Ant pulls out a ak and shoots you 47 times

[warm glade]

Destiny 2 team twitter

[quasi nebula]

#❓destiny-questions #🏆destiny-media ?

[ripe sparrow]

I woulnt be surprised if they are confirming another update bringing back the old raids

imagine

just imagine

absolute

[errant forge]

Calm down son

[ripe sparrow]

PERFECTION

[vivid swan]

https://x.com/i/status/2060040385188045258

Red subclass?????!!??

[ripe sparrow]

They having been taking big Ws so far

I wouldnt be surprised they are doing it just for us

for a one last time

[warm glade]

We have pantheon bringing back old raid encounters but I doubt they have the recourses or time to bring full raids back rn

[ripe sparrow]

They quite literally have everything related to the game done so they have free time rn

[errant forge]

you gotta remember this is the last update and they probably gonna get laid off after this bro

[quasi nebula]

where's steelfeather...

[ripe sparrow]

Fcuk those layoffs

[quasi nebula]

Oh yeah, final update = all creatives are gone

[vivid swan]

https://x.com/i/status/2060063938394362271

Here

Watch the replies of the Destiny 2 Team account

[quasi nebula]

don't have X

[warm glade]

Well it's confirmed

[quasi nebula]

so I'm going to trust you on that

[vivid swan]

The layoffs are confirmed to be significant but not imminent

[quasi nebula]

layoffs are going to be any "creative designers" I'm guessing

basically if not related to maintenance

then spoof

because those are the easiest to "let go"

[buoyant furnace]

debra wilson's triple-eyed glasses in her farewell message holy w

[errant forge]

Still it’d be pretty hard to work on something knowing you’ll lose your job no matter what

[quasi nebula]

I'm still waiting for BA weapon returns

even the "refurbs"

[tepid oyster]

Which is why it’s awesome Bungie did this for Everyone one last time

In a relatively short amount of time since most of the team found out when we did

[quasi nebula]

what's literally strange is how they keep on doing the "3 steps backwards" mandated by middle management

[thorn hedge]

The last update is looking good! at the very least! i wonder how much the entire game DLC bundle is going to cost after June 9th

[quasi nebula]

to pad whoever's middlemanagement "portfolio of improvements"

[peak cargo]

I hope 11 days is enough to finish my season pass

I am on like level 68

[quasi nebula]

I'm betting the bundle is going to be something around the lines of $100-130 USD

[vivid swan]

I imagine so. Especially for those who didn't know. But it seems the dev have been let loose with this update and are finally able to add what they want. Which limited in scope as it may be, it is significant

[peak cargo]

This is is the last one we get too..

[quasi nebula]

SRL returning at the cost of "end-game"

oops

"End-the-game"

wait... now that I think about it

it's been 7 years since I joined D2

[errant forge]

we beat the winnower in a sparrow race and save the universe

[quasi nebula]

2019 Shadowkeep was my year

[formal kite]

Who made a wish near an Ahamkara skull?

[quasi nebula]

Han Shaw

who did not get a Shank

for his redemption

Andy was disappointed

[formal kite]

"Man, I wish bungie would add all these changes to the game."

The devious Ahamkara skull buried ten feet underground:

[errant forge]

SHAW HAN KILLED DESTINY LIKE HE KILLED HIS FIRETEAM

[quasi nebula]

nah

it was Amanda

when Amanda was killed onscreen

that's when the signs were revealed

[alpine crest]

For me it was Riven’s death

[errant forge]

now offscreen

[alpine crest]

My love is now gone

[quasi nebula]

Amanda simps were probably the numbers that kept sales high /s

[thorn hedge]

How did they leave D1? balance wise, to this day is there some crazy broken stuff that was never addressed and just left like that forever? just to have an idea of what to expect

[alpine crest]

A lot of mechanics are missing

Like class abilities

[quasi nebula]

pretty sure very playable, with maybe the exception of that random primary sniper

[alpine crest]

Oui

[quasi nebula]

but yeah, never played D1 myself but someone I know had it on their console

[errant forge]

Funny taunt glitch

[alpine crest]

I used to play religiously

[quasi nebula]

I gave it a wiz and, just imagine D2, without a few QoL stuff

I think mantling was one?

[formal kite]

Oh man, imagine distorted Altars of Sorrow.

[quasi nebula]

and no class abilities (dodge, rift, etc)

[alpine crest]

The only reason I’m back now is cause we happen to have a PS4 here and so I bought rise of iron

[alpine crest]

Yerp

[quasi nebula]

Phalanxed was a higher meanace I imagine

[mental wyvern]

https://x.com/VargrOfRagnarok/status/2059813471617695906 ooof xD

[alpine crest]

Engrams go into the slot for it, so it will fill armor slots or weapon slots

[alpine crest]

Phalanxes are an absolute nightmare in D1

[quasi nebula]

and something about like VERY high vault maintenance

because you had low slot numbers

so each Exotic TRUELY meant something

and I've heard something about Imago and loops

not sure what that was about

[alpine crest]

Never before have I so quickly been introduced to the wall I saw standing in the corner across the map than rocking up on a phalanx expecting things to go well

[errant forge]

me getting flung at near light speed towards an imminent demise for daring to step within 5 steps of the phalanx

[idle yoke]

Yer no mantling. The worst part of d1, especially for warlocks imo

[alpine crest]

When you think about it, phalanxes are expert match makers

[quasi nebula]

oh yeah, because D1 was console exclusive.

SLOW turning to look around, right?

[alpine crest]

Nah you can change sensitivity

[errant forge]

Turn sensitivity up

[quasi nebula]

why I will hate Warlocks no matter how much "best jump propaganda" they keep on trying

I can NOT recover from slipping at the edge

[alpine crest]

I like the speed

[quasi nebula]

speed means nothing, if you can't recover

why I chose Titan for solo Prophecy

[alpine crest]

Honestly now that I’ve made that joke I can now only view phalanxes as unintentional matchmakers

[idle yoke]

Hunter and titan def have the better jump and i main warlock.

[thorn hedge]

I played D1 but near the end of life so i remember very few things, pretty sure never got to endgame at all, however the one thing that does stick with me from D1 was the Quest to Unlock Sunbreaker, was nice

[quasi nebula]

Hunter is the "expected jump" that everyone sees from all FPS

[torn glen]

Hey everyone I’m looking for 2 Guardians to help me finish the Middle Path quest in Destiny 2. I need to recover some artifacts, but I have no idea where they are open. My DMs are open if anyone wants to help!

[alpine crest]

Oh you’re nervous to go talk to that vex Minotaur that’s been shyly eyeing you from across the map and blushing? Well BAM go introduce yourself

[quasi nebula]

Titan is more of a jump that should be treated like "aquatic gameplay?"

[alpine crest]

;lfg

[primal mango]

Looking for more players?
Check out #looking-for-group for links to our LFG channels, and further resources including:

• Fireteam Finder (in-game LFG, available in the Roster tab or when launching an activity)
• Destiny 2 LFG Discord
• Renegades LFG Discord (Requires Renegades DLC)
• D2Checkpoint
• Reddit's r/Fireteam
• Reddit's r/DestinySherpa

[quasi nebula]

where you can boost around

but Warlock jump?

stub your toe?

good bye flawless

[torn glen]

My bad

[alpine crest]

All g

[quasi nebula]

Warlocks have glass ankles

and I started AS a warlock

then to Hunter

and I left EoF on Titan

[alpine crest]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[idle yoke]

Titan and hunter jump is simply more forgiving at heights, at great distances, which is rare, warlock is fine.

[quasi nebula]

Trying to get to that hive ogre in Grasp

when you plant the flag

[alpine crest]

Ez pz just jump

[quasi nebula]

and the geometry decides to impose a "microjump"

[idle yoke]

Yup microjumps. Lol

[quasi nebula]

warlocks just SUFFER the most from random microjumps

[alpine crest]

See but you’re missing the tech

[quasi nebula]

that just EAT the momemtnum

no, I understand the tech

it's just that the % of failure is just stupid

[alpine crest]

Bend your legs at the knees, crouch down, keeping your torso straight up

[quasi nebula]

...

[formal kite]

I genuinely hope distortions make enemies really strong so veteran players have a real reason to go to the Cosmodrome.

[alpine crest]

Then rapidly extend your legs to give yourself momentum while moving forward

[quasi nebula]

oompfie, I hope your pillow will be moist and warm tonight

[formal kite]

To help new players out in the face of danger.

[quasi nebula]

and that you will step on legoes for the rest of the evening

and that you'll find your salt in your shakers as chunks

[alpine crest]

Jokes on you it probably will be already
(It’s really really hot here recently

[alpine crest]

Jokes on you I don’t use salt shakers. I put a salt rock lamp in my soup and that works

[quasi nebula]

and I hope your humidity will be at 45% wet bulb dew point

[alpine crest]

YOU MONSTER

[quasi nebula]

so that your floor SWEATS

[alpine crest]

I hope you get locked into doing all your temperature estimations through psychrometry

[idle yoke]

Every zone needs at least 1-2 super strong events to attract players of all strengths and weaknesses. Akin to the knights in the basement day 1 d1

[quasi nebula]

jokes on that

I normally have to do that anyway (Food sci)

[fresh scroll]

Xenophage catalyst 👀

[cinder crescent]

First time trying to solo prophecy in months got thrown off by the phalanx multiple times so thats fun

[viral swift]

Guys guys guys guys guys. We have to crash the servers in two weeks

[alpine crest]

Lol nerd
(I had to for applied fluids)

[cinder crescent]

Spaghetti code is gonna prob gonna crash the moment it hits 150K

[alpine crest]

STEM for the win

[viral swift]

And one moment please screen

[alpine crest]

I hope your shoes are on opposite sides in the morning when you’re getting ready to go to work

[quasi nebula]

yeah, Food Sci is kinda a weird one where....

All other 3 sciences (Chem, Bio, Phy) all just.... dump their "research junk" onto us

and say "make something useful"

[alpine crest]

Lol sucker

I’m just a mechanical engineer masquerading as a chemical engineer

[quasi nebula]

but you still need the chem stuff anyway because of stuff like emulsions, right?

[alpine crest]

So I’m getting problems I have straight up zero experience or intuition in and somehow finding new behavior

[quasi nebula]

no 1 thing I hate is equipment specifications

[alpine crest]

Well sure. That’s why I’m ME. I can do all the engineering disciplines

(I’m not an expert, but I know enough in each to be dangerous

[alpine crest]

Tell me about it

[quasi nebula]

my most loved hated thing: Viscosity

[alpine crest]

I’m having a hard time finding equipment rated for the environments I need

[quasi nebula]

it's pratically "unitless"

[alpine crest]

[quasi nebula]

because we humans can't decide how to define viscosity properly

[stoic shadow]

I'm the type of person to say engineering is my passion and then design a building that leans 5 degrees 6 months after it's built

[quasi nebula]

like is it how flowy it is?

[alpine crest]

I just love units in general. They’re literally just the base units of a calculation mashed together and called something

Pretty sure it’s just a fluids resistance to shear

[quasi nebula]

yep

but the problem is that what the shear is being compared to

[alpine crest]

I dunno. I let the food science people figure that out /j

[quasi nebula]

hated every moment, but I do recall it alwasy had time

[alpine crest]

Straight up me. My philosophy is “I wonder what happens when I ______”

[stoic shadow]

Are you referring to specifically kinematic viscosity because yeah that's a relative unit

[quasi nebula]

viscosity for food basically takes them all

[stoic shadow]

Dynamic viscosity is an actual like absolute force measurement

[quasi nebula]

I blame starch

starch ruins everything with pressure

[alpine crest]

What you don’t like non-Newtonian fluids? Shameth on thee

[quasi nebula]

no, because I need to then invite thermals

[alpine crest]

L

[quasi nebula]

and then I also have to remember the type of starch

and where said starch is sourced from

like I could have two identical starches

One from potatoes, other from say.... corn

[alpine crest]

I just need to be silly and play with chemicals

[quasi nebula]

chemically mostly the "same"

and yet they'll just go like "nu-uh"

[alpine crest]

Tony Starch, the Iron Spud

I’m so sorry

[spare lance]

Khostov exotic worth it or am i better off using the legendary with a special exotic?

[quasi nebula]

and the end food product would be so different

[alpine crest]

Worth it for what activity?

[quasi nebula]

probably the origin perk

[spare lance]

General PVE, raids, etc.

[alpine crest]

Then yes I would say it’s a solid choice

[stoic shadow]

It's a very 8/10 primary that is only worth using when you don't care about using an exotic weapon that actually does something

[spare lance]

alright, guess ill begin the exotic portion tonight to get it

[stoic shadow]

Exotic primaries in general are basically the lowest priority picks because most don't really do anything

To the point that many exotic primaries are objectively just worse than normal primaries in the same slot

[uncut spindle]

Wishender they are starting to forget you. . .

[spare lance]

i mean if i rolling with my special pulse rifle with missles i guess i cant go wrong

got the mint retrograde so i guess that works

[stoic shadow]

That's the khvostov slot

Lol

[spare lance]

crap..nvm, gonna use unfall instead

[stoic shadow]

But yeah idk I like khvostov but it's an awkward gun

[uncut spindle]

U could run psi aeterna

[stoic shadow]

Psi aeterna is the rocket pulse in the other slot

If khvostov had attrition orbs it'd be peak

[spare lance]

ill load that bad boy up

[stoic shadow]

But as-is it needs an outside orb gen enabler to even work

[alpine crest]

As far as guns with precursors go, nothing will stop me from running husk of the pit

[stoic shadow]

And it's debatably just worse than multimach

[uncut spindle]

I've been running fatebringer since I got it tbh

[alpine crest]

It’s solid

[stoic shadow]

I also just think necrochasm is genuinely really good after the catalyst

[alpine crest]

No no, not nechrochasm

I run husk of the pit

In PvP

[ashen verge]

Necrochasm is so underrated as a weapon

[alpine crest]

And it claps

[stoic shadow]

Outside of the headshot requirement making it a little awkward to use it's imo graviton lance tier

[fresh scroll]

I enjoyed running it in Crucible a little bit as well

[onyx sinew]

you can surge match it with Psi Aeterna or other arc weapons too

[alpine crest]

[onyx sinew]

since the cursed thrall explosion is arc damage

[alpine crest]

But what about my white rarity husk of the pit?

[ashen verge]

Simply hit heads and it’s not a problem

[onyx sinew]

[uncut spindle]

I've been running traveler's chosen in pvp and it slaps too

[alpine crest]

Ooooooo I also love rocking Traveler’s Chose (Broken)

[ashen verge]

It has a fuck ton of aim assist/bullet magnetism as well

[alpine crest]

Basically I love using the on paper terrible precursor guns

[stoic shadow]

Necrochasm with one for thrall and desperado up is crazy good especially

[alpine crest]

But HotP has very little recoil and a LOT of ammo

[uncut spindle]

It pisses me off that red death looks like an auto but it shoots like a pulse

[stoic shadow]

I use necrotic class item on warlock a lot just for necrochasm

[onyx sinew]

i have noticed though, that it doesnt work sometimes

[alpine crest]

Ripperoni

[onyx sinew]

like you clearly very obviously get a precision kill and it doesnt do the explosion

[pearl mural]

desperadoo…

[cerulean imp]

Doesn’t the class item version suck?

[ashen verge]

I think that’s a network issue tbf. The same kind as when you get white numbers but get a firefly proc, or vice versa

[stoic shadow]

It's fine and all that really matters is that killing any enemy with poison on them even without precision damage causes the explosion

[pearl mural]

who up necroing they chasm

[stoic shadow]

Makes starting the kill chain much less annoying

There's not many perks contending for the first perk slot on warlock class item anyway

Warlock really doesn't need hoil and every other perk in that slot is kind of mid like osiomancy or apotheosis

[mystic monolith]

do weapons of sorrow work with class item?

[stoic shadow]

Yes

[cerulean imp]

What bottom perk do you use?

[stoic shadow]

They only care about if there is any poison effect at all

[onyx sinew]

yes

the class item downside is no ramping damage to the poison ticks

[stoic shadow]

Depends, I have a necrotic + claw one for song of flame damage and sometimes I use verity or starfire

Syntho for slide melee always works fine too

The second perk on warlock class items at least has way better options

[cerulean imp]

Does the poison work with the slide ?

[onyx sinew]

lightning surge? yea but it sucks

[cerulean imp]

Damn

Lmao

I wish melee ignition scaling still existed cause I’d love to use a snap build on pris

[formal kite]

The main problem with Necrotic's poison is it does not proc Devour.

And you kinda need Devour if you want to slide into a bunch of enemies.

[cerulean imp]

Seems like we’re staying at this light level

My tiny pea brain gets excited at more damage numbers… rip

[vivid swan]

I lied

[frozen karma]

These mind cells are waring

[stoic shadow]

Destiny community having a mental breakdown about the game dying while bungie releases the first good update in 5 years

[vivid swan]

But Bungie said maybe so 🤷‍♂️

[frozen karma]

Not 5 years more like a year

[stoic shadow]

A year ago was heresy

So you're lying

It is funny how many people I've seen say they don't care about this update because no more content updates like this update doesn't have more content than the entire year of shadowkeep

[errant forge]

Chat was heresy really bad apparently

[storm bane]

Heresy was good what are they on???

[mighty fog]

I liked heresy

[frozen karma]

Heresy saved my pet dog

[mighty fog]

It got me using arc more often

[stoic shadow]

heresy had an LFR meta which makes it bad

[errant forge]

yeah heresy was the best man at my wedding

[formal kite]

The first good update in five years
Ignoring Witch Queen, Haunted, and Plunder introducing 3.0 subclasses.
Ignoring Lightfall changing the landscape of the sandbox as armor, weapons, and artifacts get hit with overhauls, as well as the introduction of Strand.
Ignoring The Final Shape. I don't need to go into detail about this.
Ignoring Edge of Fate and Renegades expanding buildcrafting to a whole new level.

[storm bane]

Well it was a great meta so I’m not complaining

[stoic shadow]

i like your ragebait funny man

[formal kite]

If you ignore all those, yeah, bungie hasn't put out a good update in years.

So I guess you're right.

[frozen karma]

I wouldnt call eof good content wise

But yeah

[errant forge]

Let’s not act like edge of fate didn’t have a lot of shit(portal) attached to it

[stoic shadow]

i dont think a sane person would say EoF expanded buildcrafting even lol

[formal kite]

Did I say the portal was good?

[stoic shadow]

the first wave of armor set bonuses all did nothing

[errant forge]

ok but as a whole are we saying edge of fate was a good update

[mighty fog]

Techsec and twofold was good

[formal kite]

Did I say Edge of Fate as a whole?

[mighty fog]

Getting healed on picking ammo is nice

[errant forge]

My fault then I assume we were speaking as a whole since heresy came up

[fleet sparrow]

Wonder if bungie is gonna redo the artifact for monument of light or if its gonna be stuck as the renegades artifact

[formal kite]

I said Edge of Fate and Renegades brought us a big slew of build crafting that we were not capable of before.

That is in itself a good update.

[fleet sparrow]

Part of me is hoping that the next artifact brings back some old artifact mods

[formal kite]

I wouldn't of brought up Plunder if it didn't drop a 3.0 subclass.

[errant forge]

Fair.

[dawn meadow]

Mahn Im bored

[maiden meadow]

Hi bored, I'm Squid

[fleet sparrow]

Who's Mahn?

[formal kite]

Catch up on WW before the big release.

[fleet sparrow]

We are ALL hopping on encore when the Final Update drops

[errant forge]

I saw that

[fleet sparrow]

Saw what

[formal kite]

I'm going straight to the tower when the update drops.

[dawn meadow]

WW?

[formal kite]

Wild World.

[fleet sparrow]

Wegde of Wfate?

[errant forge]

Wonder Woman

[maiden meadow]

Nah twin, WE are hopping on Fishing with its glorious return

[jolly loom]

Wait we’re getting news more tomorrow too?

[maiden meadow]

Yes

[jolly loom]

Eating good

The SRL gear looks fucking clean

[fleet sparrow]

Brochaco, we, yes WE are ALL hopping on that nessus public event when it drops

SRL tex mechanica fusion/auto(?) looks weird

[formal kite]

Weapon news.

[alpine crest]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-sassy-gay-choreography-lgbt-gif-22409823

Literally me fishing

[jolly loom]

The omolon whatever the fuck looks so cool

[fleet sparrow]

I completely missed the omolon one lmao

[jolly loom]

Shit like a legendary riskrunner

[fleet sparrow]

Daito sword looks sick, cant believe bungie remembered them after prophecy

[cinder crescent]

Just realised is Nessus really the only planet without an Endgame activity and somehow survived being sunset

[fleet sparrow]

It had leviathan

[cinder crescent]

Forgot it was on Nessus i thought it had his own Director spot

[jolly loom]

It’s crazy to me we’re getting pantheon on the same day as launch

[fleet sparrow]

Nah before haunted leviathan and all of its 70 activities was a nessus thing

Eater of Worlds full reprise as a dungeon god willing 🥶 🥶 🥶

[jolly loom]

Now that’s the kind of pipe dream I like to see

[errant forge]

Wrath is coming back for sure guys

[fleet sparrow]

Weird way to spell scourge of the past

[clear mist]

Holy shit

R u a badge hunter

[errant forge]

I never played scourge

[alpine crest]

…what

[clear mist]

Badges in ur discord profile

[alpine crest]

Yeah I earned em lol

[jolly loom]

I hope insurrection prime comes back

[clear mist]

Is the bot creator badge thing the only one u don’t have

Is there someone out there with them all

[alpine crest]

Unlike them, I actually put in the years of hard work and dedication to earn them

[clear mist]

Ahhh

[alpine crest]

Of course

[deep maple]

does this mean fishing is coming back?

[alpine crest]

I wish

[maiden meadow]

Only game mode I care about atp

[jolly loom]

Is it not?

[fleet sparrow]

insurrection is coming back as the EDZ patrol distortion roaming boss, pete parson's psychic avatar told me

[alpine crest]

No I will not tell you who it is

[midnight tangle]

Hello guys, should i buy year of prophecy for 21 bucks or just go ahead and get the ultimate edition for 8 bucks more?

I have all old dlc

[alpine crest]

Tbh I have no idea if fishing is returning

[jolly loom]

I think the choice is obvious

[fleet sparrow]

Wait for prices to drop

[midnight tangle]

Me too i just want to make sure

[prime mica]

ultimate will give you starwars skins

[maiden meadow]

Main difference is some cosmetics and New Land Beyond. Also everything is on sale permanently after June 9

[deep maple]

do i buy the edge of fate deluxe edition

[midnight tangle]

You really think prices will drop further than that? Its the last dlc ever

[jolly loom]

An extra 8 bucks if it isn’t much for you is worth it

[prime mica]

is ultimate and the upgrade even going to the available

dont the extra versions get removed after a year

so missing out on 3 transmog skins

[jolly loom]

They should add NLB though when the hell are they going to do that

[prime mica]

which is like 6k silver it self

[maiden meadow]

It sounded like yes

It was in last weeks TWID

[alpine crest]

No land beyond? They already did

[jolly loom]

When

[maiden meadow]

Last year

[midnight tangle]

Do you guys really think year of prophecy will dip under 20?

[jolly loom]

Normal gameplay I mean

[midnight tangle]

i cant see it happening

[alpine crest]

It was the exotic you got if you preordered edge of fate iirc

[jolly loom]

No deluxe edition required or whatever

[midnight tangle]

im thinking they just bundle everything in a 40-50 dollar package

[alpine crest]

Oh

[maiden meadow]

Haven't

[alpine crest]

Tbh you’re not missing a ton. It sounds good on paper, but like there are better exotics for dps :P

[maiden meadow]

They were supposed to with the launch of Shattered Cycle but they'll probably do that now

[jolly loom]

Ik I just like collecting and it bothers me

[alpine crest]

It’s strong sure, but still

[primal frigate]

i liked witch queen 🙂

[alpine crest]

Nah that’s valid

Collecting things is fun

[jolly loom]

Yea

The new distortion stuff makes me so curious what they were cooking for the story

It’s so red eclipse themed

[midnight tangle]

Last question, does year of prophecy include all season passes, or only ultimate does

[jolly loom]

Ultimate includes all

[scarlet fiber]

Did they say anything about bundle re pricing?

[errant forge]

R-red subclass…

[stoic stag]

They said they're gonna be cheaper

But they didn't say how much cheaper

[midnight tangle]

so yolo into ultimate for 30 bucks?

[stoic stag]

I don't know

[midnight tangle]

I just need a yes or no,,,, finger is on the trigger

[buoyant furnace]

we know it'll at least be within the cosmodrome, moon, and nessus, so it's not directly related to III's death

[stoic stag]

I can't give one.

Because I do not know

[jolly loom]

I can imagine maybe they make an ultimate edition with everything in the game for $40-$50

[vivid swan]

This is all they've said

Destiny 2: The Collection

We are bundling all Destiny 2 content packs into a singular purchase, available on June 9.
This includes campaigns, Dungeon Keys, the 30th Anniversary Pack, and more.
Individual content packs and expansions will also receive permanent markdowns in June.

I image at highest around 70

[scarlet fiber]

Thats good to hear, I want to buy them but not for $100, also is edge of fate puzzles really that bad?

[stoic stag]

They're extremely easy, just repetitive

[grave quest]

not hard, just really fucking annoying for that reason^

and there's like fucking 10 per mission

[scarlet fiber]

Oh wow

[stoic stag]

It kinda presumes you're like

[scarlet fiber]

Thats alot of being a ball

[stoic stag]

Really bad at puzzles

[grave quest]

yeah

[scarlet fiber]

Yeah im a smooth brain, I just go forward

[stoic stag]

Raid is amazing tho

[jolly loom]

Worst campaign in the game imo

[stoic stag]

I'd go so far as to say it's maybe the best one?

Easy top 3 for many

[fresh scroll]

Mfw Shadowkeep

[jolly loom]

At least you can beat shadowkeep in a couple hours

TEoF makes me want to die immediately

[fresh scroll]

I don’t think that makes a campaign better

[stoic stag]

The quality of a campaign should be measured by the campaign

[jolly loom]

I’d rather something be short and unmemorable than long and tedious and boring

[buoyant furnace]

renegades was deadass worse than eof's campaign

[jolly loom]

No way bro

[buoyant furnace]

name 1 good fight from renegades

[stoic stag]

I found it more enjoyable overall

But I can understand disagreement

[grave quest]

i found renegades more enjoyable

cause was much less repetitive

[jolly loom]

Renegades was so much more enjoyable than edge of shit

Far less repetitive

[buoyant furnace]

notice how when asked about a good fight none can be provided

[formal kite]

Sweatcicle is doing Vesper's, wrote down 5 and 3 for Raneiks and someone in his chat said "that's your irl height." 😭

[errant ermine]

Lmao

[uncut spindle]

We are never topping witch queen huh

[modern dagger]

Is it worthy? I’m total missed 2 dlcs even there be last updates xD

[buoyant furnace]

🥹 holy peak

[uncut spindle]

JAJAJAJAJAJAJA

[uncut spindle]

No campaign with eris can be bad 🗣️🗣️

[errant forge]

The dark below

[jolly loom]

Fuck Geoff keighley

[buoyant furnace]

but yeah renegades' boss fights are genuinely pretty bad both in part due to lacking interest within the fights themselves and the general ease of the whole campaign

[formal kite]

What he do?

[jolly loom]

But the edge of fate has better fights with ballmode?

[buoyant furnace]

unironically yes

[errant forge]

The problem with renegades campaign is that we had to do so many of the lawless frontier activities

[uncut spindle]

It's been a hot minute since i've played d1

[formal kite]

I thought the Pike/Walker boss fight was pretty fun.

At least solo it was.

[jolly loom]

I wholeheartedly disagree

[stoic stag]

Eris does genuinely make the campaign bearable. Her dialogue is written so well and the VA kills it

[formal kite]

Destiny in general had bad dialogue until Shadowkeep with a few exceptions.

Emphasis on a few.

[jolly loom]

Don’t believe his lies. The half life 3 man

[buoyant furnace]

deadass I do not remember this

[stoic stag]

I'd say Eris' is fine

Her delivery is at least great.

[uncut spindle]

You are all insufferable 🗣️🗣️

[fresh scroll]

Don’t get me wrong, I like the story itself of Shadowkeep. Eris is always a delight. But as a campaign from a gameplay standpoint, Shadowkeep has three actual missions and then just kinda random chores basically

It’s very lacking, especially when you compare it to the campaign structures that come after it

[formal kite]

Europa, where you had to fight the onslaught of behemoth walkers on the strand pike.

[buoyant furnace]

unless you mean the behemoths and not the actual pikers with a spider tank

okay I figured as much after thinking about it

idk it's just so fucking boring

it's the same enemy ad nauseum with the same gimmick you use to defeat it

[jolly loom]

The edge of fate has to be one of the most miserable things to replay though

First playthrough whatever

Replaying that for the title made me sick

[buoyant furnace]

it's genuinely so easy for the higher difficulties since it's only the 5 missions

plus with ball-anywhere it's a cakewalk

[errant forge]

I’m gonna say the edge of fate campaign has just really boring levels and no clever uses of its puzzles till the last mission. Kepler as a destination is sauceless and narrative carried hard.

Renegades I don’t like for many conceptual reasons and its story is seprated by too many lawless frontier missions but I wasn’t slogging through it like eof

[jolly loom]

it’s still incredibly boring

[buoyant furnace]

renegades has 6 missions and 1/3rd of them are just frontier runthroughs

and also fire and ice which LOL release harrow

[jolly loom]

Kepler is an ugly ass destination that hurts my eyes

[errant forge]

eof having more mission doesn’t make them good missions

[buoyant furnace]

it doens't even have more misions lol

[errant forge]

And renegades doesn’t even have that good missions

[stoic stag]

yeah literally everything else was... unsatisfactory

[buoyant furnace]

it has 5 primary missions and a couple smaller missions that are super quick

[formal kite]

I like the EoF campaign but even I'll admit somewhere around the middle it does drag a bit.

[buoyant furnace]

renegades has 6 primary missions adn teh lawless frontiers in between

genuinely curse of osiris design

[analog gulch]

renegades has vex that play blackjack

[maiden meadow]

Edge of Fate has 14 missions compared to Renegades' 6. They're still not great ones anyway.

[formal kite]

They should've given us a Mythic Renegades campaign.

[maiden meadow]

I don't think they could have

[errant forge]

I didn’t like the mythic missions

[buoyant furnace]

it's only 5 major missions with the other 9 being used for literal time trial missions due to how short they are

[formal kite]

Call it Praxic difficulty instead of Mythic.

[buoyant furnace]

it's why there's only 5 missions you do for the mythic replay

hell the fucking

[maiden meadow]

And yet all 14 are needed for Legendary triumph

[buoyant furnace]

world bosses you do for it are more interesting than any of renegades' fight

[jolly loom]

This

[strange bramble]

Xenophage getting a catalyst makes me happy lol

[jolly loom]

It is?

[strange bramble]

Yes confirmed on twitter

[jolly loom]

Anything else?

[formal kite]

Not as of yet.

We'll probably find out tomorrow.

[strange bramble]

Titans getting thrusters like the chest piece from D1 again

[jolly loom]

Yipee

Garrison????

[strange bramble]

Twilight Garrison yes

[jolly loom]

They broke the emergency glass

[proud charm]

Guys look at my banner

[strange bramble]

They are spoiling everything on Twitter

It’s legit masterclass

Garrison movement will be talked about in next dev post

[buoyant furnace]

also renegades has less lodi than eof

[formal kite]

They're probably just going to allow Thruster to activate midair.

[strange bramble]

Oh I can’t post the image from Twitter

Whack

[errant forge]

Do we hate lodi now

[buoyant furnace]

the opposite

renegades has less lodi

ergo it's stinky

[errant forge]

Oh my fault I’m stupid

[formal kite]

Ergo? 🤨

[jolly loom]

Oh they’re reworking titan thrusters ability

[sinful terrace]

Sum of it

[onyx sinew]

say that again

[jolly loom]

Prob do that shit midair now

[strange bramble]

Going full twilight garrison with it

[rocky comet]

i think therefore i am

[jolly loom]

Wait are fucking warmind cells returning?

[strange bramble]

Btw D2 Team also said, you haven’t even seen the whole meal they have in store for us

Warming cells are back

Warmind

[buoyant furnace]

maybe

[sinful terrace]

Hopefully

[formal kite]

Warmind Cells will probably be tied to Spire armor set bonuses.

[rocky comet]

warmind subclass when

[jolly loom]

Oh this would be peak

[errant forge]

Wouldn’t it be a Tex mechanica bonus

[jolly loom]

Newer destiny players have no idea how destructive warmind cells were

[buoyant furnace]

idk why bitches be saying spire when cosmodrome is getting the rasputin weapon suite

spire is so obviously gonna go for the cowboy guns

[formal kite]

They didn't say armor was going to be a world drop.

They could do that, though.

[strange bramble]

The Season when we got Saint 14 back, all the weapons are back.

[formal kite]

Make it available only during Distortions.

[strange bramble]

Steel feather Repeater ETC

[errant forge]

didn’t they refresh destination armors too

[steady ledge]

the cosmodrome is getting its own set, like every destination

[formal kite]

I feel like tying it behind a dungeon would just be a smarter move is all.

Make a strong set bonus, put it behind harder content.

[strange bramble]

24 exotic weapons getting catalysts

Get grinding kids

[errant forge]

Well warmind cells may not be a as strong or frequent as it used to be

[strange bramble]

The Last Word gonna slap

[dry yacht]

they decided to wake up and fix everything and do evrything we wanted after refusing for years

[errant forge]

Possibly why they said maybe

[analog gulch]

I mean, the game is over, there’s no real end goal of the chase anymore to really put that much care into harder content locking good loot

[jolly loom]

No point returning cells if they’re gonna be shit. And the game is going into MM, I say who cares about balance

[analog gulch]

They just want to make cool things now for the end

[strange bramble]

Tarrabah catalyst yum

[formal kite]

It's about the principle.

[dry yacht]

in destiny 1 its just fun to play, pretty bad if d2 isnt fun intrinsically

[surreal narwhal]

where go figure reprise :(((((

[balmy field]

lots of eververse armor being reused for this i'd guess

[onyx sinew]

ask them for it

[formal kite]

Go figure, they didn't do it.

[jolly loom]

Go figure

[balmy field]

Remember when they said they'd never do that

[analog gulch]

Yeah but like the whole update is gated towards turning old things fresh and fun and cool, why ingrain the loot chase into your farewell update

[formal kite]

Being reused for what?

[jolly loom]

Cause the fun part of d2 was chasing loot ig

[surreal narwhal]

will report back my findings

[strange bramble]

Unpatching telesto

I’ll scream lmao

[rustic plaza]

@wraith ginkgo I’m here

[onyx sinew]

because loot just being given to you with no effort is lame

[formal kite]

Unpatching Telesto would just mean Telesto would never be used again.

[jolly loom]

I would use it to crash my opponents in crucible

[balmy field]

For the new armor

[formal kite]

Mfw I get the best armor in the game because I killed a HVT Captain in the Cosmodrome.

[strange bramble]

This is like getting a 3-star Michelin 9 course meal but it’s your last meal

[balmy field]

this mindset killed the game btw

[jolly loom]

IMO chasing loot was always the best part of this game

[subtle rune]

I support loot chase and gatekeeping

[balmy field]

its more like the restaurant is closing down but they send you home with all the food they could prepare with the ingredients in the kitchen

[strange bramble]

Legit. Bungie. You cooked sooooo hard with this update. Where was this “we were listening the whole time” when we actually needed it.

[analog gulch]

Deadass my response to this take would get me muted here I’m ngl this is one of your worst

[jolly loom]

You have to say it now

[strange bramble]

Most of this is what we have asked for over and over and got ignored. Now they release it.

[balmy field]

resorting to not even insults but just the vague concept of having a negative opinion of me is a rather far cry from having a real argument