I suggest expert badges for really skilled players

[pliant thunder]

7 and 8 is a common thing

I dont use exotics that much, like one or two and that too sometimes. 8 is normal. The blacksmith isnt that good if you dont have two of the same type, wandmaker's rotberry quest is just unstable. THe imp only sometimes gives something good. The only one mostly done is ghost and that could also be avoided

[paper wigeon]

the imp gives a shop

thas the fun thing he does

he also sells torches

tbf these expert badges sound

actually kinda fun

(thank god there's no No Wand badge)

7 is a bit easy tbf

maybe no alchemy at all instead

[lofty canopy]

3 seems like the only difficult one. Not having subclasses and armor abilities is a nice challenge.
5 is basically barren land with dew.
There are lots of workarounds to 6. Mage staff, freerunner, monk, etc.
7 is basically how everyone used to play before the alchemy update. It was really bad in vanilla because all you could do is toss 3 seeds in exchange for a potion.
Others are easily done. 1 and 2 just seems like an unlucky game that happens from time to time. 4 just needs to be played carefully. 8 is more or less how speedrunners play the game.

[pliant thunder]

1: This could be done easily.
2. Again, could be done easily.
3. Might be difficult. But I feel it would be only a little challenging for pacifists.
4. A very lucky run
5. Depends on your definition of using seed. If planting it then very easy. If used in alchemy, that makes it 10% more difficult.
6. Any good subclass could work. Or a well-upgraded tier 3.
7. Easy.
8. Normal

So my thoughts: The idea is good, Only the things you wrote are not challenging. At all.

Especially for a good player

[vivid heart]

A challenging run doesn't equate to a bad run. I guess one's perspective is what determines it.

[pliant thunder]

Nah, I meant it as, Its same as a bad or an unlucky run

So my point still stands

[night light]

u dont have to find a good artifact or ring (or even ANY artifacts or rings) to have a lucky or 'good' run

[paper wigeon]

^

my 6chal rogue standing on f17 with no rings

[autumn spruce]

6: a Flail run

[paper wigeon]

6: wand

[pliant thunder]

But I mean it as a bad run, what your saying is for a lucky run.

I never said all runs without artifacts or rings are bad

[pliant thunder]

even I got alot of those runs

[night light]

u said that not equipping/getting a ring or artifact is "just a very, very, bad run".
i said that just because u dont find an artifact or ring doesnt make a run bad

[pliant thunder]

Huh, I guess I worded it wrong then. But do you get what I mean now?

[night light]

not rly

[pliant thunder]

oof What I mean to convey is that it isnt really challenging

[night light]

ah

[pliant thunder]

That was literally my point

so it still stands

Wait. Completing game as in bringing the amulet to surface?

[night light]

yh, 1 and 2 can be done rather easily
3 is just purist
4 can also be done rather easily
same with 5, 6, 7 and 8

[pliant thunder]

yup

I believe the guy should make harder challenges. The idea isn't bad, but the examples are

What about only able to kill enemies meelee?

[night light]

that throws the entire idea of the wandmaker out

lot of other things to factor, but thats just one off my head

[pliant thunder]

Well, poor mage Ig

Ig you could get a special badge for. Completing that challenge with mage

I mean, Its not that difficult

You would just require alot of scroll of metamorphisis

[night light]

mage isnt the only class that would use wands, hell battlemage could be played rather melee with shield battery

[pliant thunder]

Huh, really

[umbral fjord]

Ima rating em all

1, ez
2, ez
3, moderate
4, ez
5, beyond ez
6, ehh, wand
7, i forgor alchemy
8, moderate

Without any chall this badge is pretty easy

I'll suggest random badge

[frank loom]

ok

[umbral fjord]

Pacifist: End a run without directly hurt an enemy

[pliant thunder]

thats a floor, not a run

[pliant thunder]

also, nope I got a whole conversation to counter it

[umbral fjord]

U

[pliant thunder]

yes me, your death. What else?

[umbral fjord]

What it already exist? Didn't knew that lmao

[pliant thunder]

Uhh, you do? didnt you see my "Very Hard Achievemt" thread?

[umbral fjord]

True pacifist: take the amulet without directly kill an enemy

[umbral fjord]

Nuh uh tengu blinds me

[pliant thunder]

ONE SEC

[umbral fjord]

Ok ok

I mayb should degrade the difficulty

Cuz it was "expert" not "grandmaster" badge..

1. Reach 21 point base of strength (Ring of might are excluded)

Yes, because some of the player doesn't know that rotfruit exist

[pliant thunder]

I didnt. Lol

[umbral fjord]

2. Obtain the Rat king armor ability

Yes, some player didn't know bout this

[umbral fjord]

How

3. You kill every enemy on a floor with a single attack

(Psionic blast)

[pliant thunder]

dunno

[umbral fjord]

Ah damn whatever, I'm making a new thread i guess

[pliant thunder]

lol.
4] Corrupting every enemy you find as soon as you pick up a wand of Corruption

[serene torrent]

Introvert: Do not talk to any NPC or make any allies

or enter shops

[pliant thunder]

5. Premium. Bye every Item in the shops.

6. Miser. Don't spend a single gold

7. The real Theif: Steal every item in the shops

[tulip prism]

1 sniper
2sniper
3sniper
4 sniper
5 sniper
6 sniper
7 sniper
8 sniper

[paper wigeon]

same goes for like

every class except rogue

[tulip prism]

I like sniper

Can you tell

[paper wigeon]

no

do you like sniper by any chance

[tulip prism]

[umbral fjord]

Simp

[tulip prism]

I’m just a worse version of aimfire

[umbral fjord]

YOU PUT GASOLINE IN AN AIRFRYER?

[tulip prism]

Almost

Then I realized that it would be better in the toaster

[umbral fjord]

Your house sounds better

[flint blade]

Isn't number 4 just... Beating the game without ankh? Like dude ive done some runs like that

[tulip prism]

Beat the game without sniper

[safe rampart]

expertest badge: beat the game without beating the game