The tier: C, B, A, S, S+
If anyone have ideas about put the Ring, Wand, Artifact,... please leave a reason
An ideas from me:
Ring of Haste - S+ Ring
-It help Huntress and Mage kite their enemy, without being attacked
-Increase some effect duration
-With Warrior and Rogue its not very strong, but you can lose enemy track any heal
#Any Ideas about Ring, Wand, Artifact,... Tier list?
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Ring of arcana - S+
- it just buffs enchants
Ring of might -S ring
- can help really good with duelist
- pair it with ring of force and you have massive damage
Unstable Spellbook B
-Take a lot to level up
-Random effect is annoying sometimes
Footwear of Nature C
-Take a lot to level up
-Only work for druid build
-Take a long time to charge
The footwear charges when you trample grass, making wand of regrowth pretty good
But I dont play with wand of regrowth often
Can i do with anything here
Rings List (In my opinion)
S+ Haste, Sharpshooting
Moving faster is broken, it works better on classes with range but is still utterly disgusting on other classes.
Sharpshooting gives an immense amount of offense for every class, at range which makes it even more broken.
A+ Furor, Arcana
Attacking faster isn't nearly as good as moving faster, but is still quite good in terms of increasing damage output.
Arcana is amazing on huntress, but still decent on everyone else. Interacts super well with polarized which is not too difficult to get from curse infusion which is why I'm ranking it this high.
A Energy, Might
It really depends on your current gear but a ring of energy is generally pretty good no matter what class you are running. Has guaranteed value on mage and rogue which is nice.
Ring of Might is less useful later in the run, but can be one of the strongest rings in the early game if you have the right equipment.
B+ Force, Wealth
Ring of force is a mediocre melee weapon if you have no other options, which can be really nice or useless depending on your build. Has the drawback of taking up both a ring slot and your melee weapon, but is still pretty good nevertheless.
Ring of Wealth is weird. You can base your entire run around it by fully dumping all your upgrades, but compared to all the other rings above, it's pretty inconsistent and mediocre.
B- Accuracy
I can't tell if I'm overrating this ring, but I'm always pretty happy when I find a ring of accuracy because even at +0, I feel like I have 100% hit rate against enemies.
C+ Elements
It can save you in some rare situations but it sucks overall.
C Evasion, Tenacity
Both of these give low stat buffs, and are generally, really bad.
War scythe B-
Works like Greatsword, becoming trash with another hero but duelist
Warhammer beyond C-
Just, go to hell blud
Flail A
Have a really bad accuracy, but goes insane with Assassin wearing RoA
Flail is one of the best weapons imo
Should be ranked higher
So?
Highest damage scaling, has an accuracy drawback but it's still a powerhouse in the later portions of the game even if it's only a 16 strength weapon
It's good enough but I personally would rank higher because there's not much that can compete with it
So A
RoM A+
Good for early game like Sewer-Cave, Can be transmutated later if you want to
WoM B
Good for early game still, Wandmaker sometimes give it a higher upgrade from any other wand
How long do you need to type one letter?
Talisman o foresight C
I sometimes forgot if i own this in my inventory, and ended up either being transmutated or 100 gold
Spellbook A+
Good one, i will be doomed if i got rage scroll
RoW A+
Plate armor +6
The heck are you writing
Some leaked documents?
Bro had enough and ended it all
footwear if nature is A- imho, charges by touching grass and can provide a variety of effects, very versatile
S- or S on warden obviously
Wands List (In my opinion)
S+ Corrosion, Fireblast
Corrosion has the ability to output stupid AOE damage for one charge cost, and also has decent utility. Has a drawback of being able to harm you for a lot, but skill issue tbh.
Fireblast can also output stupidly high AOE damage, with amazing utility because it applies fire, and can apply paralyze/cripple at higher levels. Has a few drawbacks being costing more charges and fire can be either helpful or harmful.
S Blast Wave
The best utility wand, applying pressure in 3x3, knocking both enemies yourself back, and very easy to use.
S- Regrowth
Another amazing utility wand, rooting enemies is great, creating grass is great, and outside of barren land is one of the most interesting wands to dump as you gain so many resources and further utility with the golden lotus.
A+ Disintegration, Lightning
Disintegration is good for damage, AOE is decent and ability to pierce walls has a lot of potential.
Lightning has the highest damage scaling, mediocre AOE, it's just solid overall but does have the drawback of being able to self-harm.
A Frost, Prismatic Light
Frost is pretty decent, the effect is really nice if you have a few levels on it, but it's lower on the damage end.
Prismatic Light has great damage against undead enemies, but low damage output against non-undead. However, blindness is one of the strongest debuffs against enemies, so this might even be ranked higher.
A- Transfusion
Strange utility wand, but being able to charm enemies and gain shielding is quite powerful, even if some enemies are immune to charm. Also has some interesting interactions as it can heal allies, though costing your own health.
B+ Warding, Living Earth
Warding has some interesting utility, but is not that powerful unless you are battlemage, in which case it can be one of the most fun wands to dump.
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Living Earth is similar, not being particularly insane unless you are battlemage, but can be really fun if you are battlemage.
B Corruption
Weak outside of mage imbue, though it can be incredibly fun under the right circumstances (e.g. necromancer build)
C Magic Missile
Low damage output, is not necessarily that strong because it takes two casts to gain any meaningful impact. However, it works amazingly well with most wands, has pretty much no issues in terms of charges, and the extra charge is decent for shield battery.
"C magic missile" the fuck is your username then?
Tbh I would rank it higher
Maybe around A-
tied scaling with glaive
i cannot tolerate this corruption slander
corruption is a runwinner
if ur warlock maybe
what's the point on every other class?
the debuffs give negligible advantage, against only 1 enemy too
Anything
alright but
corruption chance scales on health
simply corrupt a guy
let him beat up others
corrupt them more easily
rince and repeat
there
also it gives a 2x damage multplier on bosses lmao
Have fun
Just put everything except strange meat into F-tier and watch people killing each other
Lmao
WoC should be ranked higher
In my experience, if you don't know how to use it properly, then nmit stays in it's current place
Ok
why is mm amazing
and bw and fireblast are below it??
why is corrosion d tier? it's on par with fireblast for the powerful aoe (and requiring brain cells to use)
stone of blast is definitely not useless
it's instant bomb, how 3x3 AoE damage has no uses?
it can blow up barricades instead of using liquid flame
besides, ranking everything on one page is kinda stupid
more difficult to find individual things and apply context
normal bomb is what is ech
because you need to wait several turns for it to work
what's ech??

yeah, only useful as a material
it's like screeching
nah, I mostly use
as disapproval
Trashbox bobylev S
Funny
Evan S+
Funny
Watabou guy SSS
Very funni
YAPD A+
Remixed A
RKPD (1 & 2) A-
Darkest S
Lovecraft B
Summoning S-
RKA S+
Debug Ss
Moonshine A-
Arranged S+
Shattered SSS
Vanilla PD SS
Scorched A
Experienced A+
Rivals B+
Too cruel SSS
Sprouted A+
Special surprise C
Touhou S
Devoted A
Seems understandable, but move Remix down to a C or D+ tier and I'll bd fine
Touhou: Move to "Too fucking long"
I got the game like 5 months ago and I still haven't completed it
how many fucking regions are there?!
So I reduced it to 40 floors recently.
Still too long?
He said he hasn't complete it yet so he didn't know at all bruh
I haven't updated the game since
Current main version is 1.0.9
FYI btw, classic shiren games are 99F in total.
I have 1.0.3
You owned a rare version of it.
That's the oldest version!
Because 25F is short to showtime with highly upgraded weapon.
How many floors does this version of the game have?
Up to 1.0.7=50F
Otherwise=40F
Thank god
For those who think even 40f is too long... you may see this one btw
A normal 99F dungeon play video by me.(Not cleared, killed by last boss)
Cya Michael Jackson
Good night
shiren games are not coffeebreak roguelikes
this thread hurts my head
Wdym?
this physically hurt me
why is everything in the same list that makes no sense
Yeah no sense
Touhou pd was also very unbalanced one way or another, but it's the chaotic fun that isn't hard bc of the numbers but bc of interesting mechanics
One of my favorite pds for that reason
Ring of Haste and Evasion S tier, rly good on their own
Ring of furor and ss A tier, good with the right setups, but SS needs a melee workaround for anti-throwing weapon enemies
All other rings: B, very situational
Weapons:
3rd tier or lower: C, only if you're desperate
4+th tier weapons that dont affect combat against a single enemy: B, better than nothing
Hard-hitters but slow and with reach: same as above
Phoenix tail and chimatas cloak: B+, only good with ring of furor and haste at high upgrades, but potentially can win the game
Yuukas umbrella: A: you need the distance from enemies
Those that inflict [x] with chance: A, rng reliant
Ayas fantail: A: scales like a normal t5 weapon but maintains x2 attack speed (I think)
Junko's sword: A, basically armor and weapon with 1 slot
Cirnos ice wing: depends on upgrade scaling (dk wut it is yet, but it used to be busted)
How do you think IRL time-related gimmicks? (old THPD's playable char, renko's abilities)
Hmmm, it would make it feel a bit more like Pokémon go rather than a game you can drop and pick up whenever you want, but if the gimmick is interesting enough, it could make it rly interesting
Hourglass is def S tier. The only reason why its not S+ is that the charges run out in the worst situations possible
Yeah its extremely useful against DK especially in stage 3 and whenever a dwarf warlock (idk if i said the name right) spawns.
Yeah it's dwarf warlock
And the hourglass can work like the cloak
SHPD main theme SS
Epic adventure of a legendary hero, successfully conquered the dungeon and obtained the Amulet of Yendor by yourself.
PD main theme SSS
A Stressful adventure, "what im doing in a such dangerous place?". Every steps and decision is important for your adventure, fighting the Eldritch evil entity Yog dzewa all alone is not going to be easy, even the dwarves can't even defeat them for a decade.
PD main theme (3.57) SSS+
Ez win lol
SHPD surface theme B
Nothing special, just 2nd part of main theme song. So
Old SHPD main theme S+
Good, as always. Successfully conquered the dungeon by yourself, now what are you going to do next?
(Is also the part of PD ost)
Surface Theme PD A+
Badge unlocked: Happy end!
Ain't no way I'm trippin'
Tenacity is "amazing"
Lmao
And how is the throwing club even became game defining
Corruption should not go there. If its +2, then you can bring harder enemies on low and corrupt them. Like eye, succubus, warlock, Brute, 200, necromancer,
Tf, +6 wand and corpse dust
Has anyone tried this???
I think corruption wand required a certain level after a boss to corrupt wraith with the wand
Cause when I had corpse dust and corruption wand, i forgot to upgrade my corruption wand again after dm-300, and upgraded something else, so in the dwarves area there were to many wraith I couldn't corrupt
yep
to use it in yog for example you need +13
Yeahh
that applies to any wand
(even magic missile)
i never said corruption was bad btw
its fun but you trade most of your damage for utility
transfusion
regrowth
(regrowth is good as util i love it very much)
transfusion flail (or any melee but that ones the most obvious)
regrowth is so good
though is more suited for battlemage so i guess that works
Ah yes, corruption should be upgraded, it would be better with +3 tho
The problem with rankings is... you now want to win the game using the "bottom tier" stuff to prove that it's not the stuff but how u use the stuff.
That said, I prefer wand of regrowth to chalice xD
Also useful for blocking ranged enemy line of sight. Or rooting melees then sniping them.
I don't blame you for believing that, cause in Challenges like Barren, regrowth isn't the greatest, it would be used for Rooting enemies like prison guards or berserkers
I actually have to redo that Tier list
Yeah the challenges are what spice up the game, increasing replayability. #🏆too-cruel (plz come back juh!)
I almost never use rose artifact, but in one of the challenges in TCPD, it becomes almost essential
Probably a legit worst item could be Cape of thorns, for those mods that still have it