devoted Pd ideas thread

[safe phoenix]

hi im ara and this is awesome and cool and im making an expansion for shattered where theres a new class called zealot and images attached please give me ideas for talents and stuff

[mint nebula]

hi there

[safe phoenix]

see i did the thread thing

ive never used this featuer before lmao

anyways heres the attached images

[mint nebula]

its smth new

[turbid tundra]

Tier 3 shared talents

Corpse Eater
+1/+2/+3 - Heal 2/4/6 health upon killing an enemy.

Wrath of the Zealot
+1/+2/+3 - Attacking while invulnerable has a 33%/67%/100% chance to apply bleeding for (level/2) turns.

[glad pulsar]

e i hath arrived

anyways i see devotee has no talents yet

heres some ideas
Crown of Thorns
Upon stabbing yourself, any enemy that deals physical damage to you in the next 1/2/3 turns is applied Bleeding for 5/7/10 turns
Bleeding level scales with current level

[safe phoenix]

I really like both of those ideas!

[safe phoenix]

This one's cool as well

[glad pulsar]

Face of Death
Upon stabbing yourself, all enemies that are under 70/80/90% of their max HP will be Feared for 2/3/4 turns
Enemies under 20% max HP will be Dreaded instead

Nihilism
Stabbing yourself has a 20/25/33% chance of dealing reduced damage.
hidden perk, trying to fall into a chasm has a very small chance to turn both confirmation buttons into "Yes"

[safe phoenix]

Lmao that's very funny

[glad pulsar]

just realized every single one of my ideas involves stabbing yourself

Faith is my Armor
Wrath directly correlates into damage reduction

[unkempt linden]

I'm not keen on Devotee needing to take damage from enemies to do anything, because that involves taking damage from enemies which is something I try to avoid

[safe phoenix]

risk and reward!!!

awesome guitar solo

[unkempt linden]

Ah, it's for Berserker fans. Fair enough :p

[safe phoenix]

yo yo anyone here have more talent ideas

this is the only ideas ive been able to come up with for t2

[glad pulsar]

drinking from vial has a 67/100% chance to take 0 turns

[safe phoenix]

thats a good enough idea

[glad pulsar]

its a pretty bad idea

[safe phoenix]

kind of difficult to come up with the final few, ill probably add one that powers up your artifacts when you read a scroll or something

[safe phoenix]

yeah but im kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel with the t2 talents lmao

theres only so many mechanics different to the other cahracters that fit the playstyle

[glad pulsar]

Entropy
Upon exiting invincibility, deal damage yo every enemy around you based on the amount of turns spent/actions taken while invincible

[safe phoenix]

i dont really wanna have area damage for a t2 talent since devotee is based around that

maybe gain an amount of time bubble depending on how many actions you took while blessed

[glad pulsar]

true

but other classes have t2 talents that are loosely based around their subs

[safe phoenix]

true, maybe it can give you the effect based on the amount of enemies around you

[safe phoenix]

had some fun with these talents

[thick mango]

When he dies, he made effects of dark partials like curse or something like that

[mint nebula]

like succubi

[thick mango]

I'm using the fkn most powerful and greatest scroll of removing curse ewer 100000000 alpha omega gamma 38528383583586

The world is devoid of horny

[mint nebula]

what

are you ok

you seem to be funny

[glad pulsar]

please try harder

[safe phoenix]

@mint nebula @unkempt linden @glad pulsar @turbid tundra @thick mango https://github.com/Arackulele/devoted-pixel-dungeon/releases/tag/V.0.1.1
heres the first beta (( having some troubles with the apk ill release it either in the next hour or so or tomorrow)

[mint nebula]

OMG POG

😄

🎉

[safe phoenix]

for android users im building that right now but itll take a bit longer

[thick mango]

Not today

My brain almost melt .

[mint nebula]

:C

[thick mango]

But

I find something

Something interesting

Game from play market

Grayland

Wery interesting

[mint nebula]

its very, not wery

[thick mango]

I said

My brain is melted

Day was hard

I tired

I think I should go to sleep

¡Adios!

[glad pulsar]

pogging so hard rn

mystery meat resprite i see

[thick mango]

what

[glad pulsar]

for the mood

mod*

[thick mango]

how?

I understand that you said about mod

But how?

[glad pulsar]

wdym how

take the spritesheet for items

[thick mango]

idfu u

[glad pulsar]

edit it

repackage everything into a .jar file

tadaa you have resprited shattered

[thick mango]

I got an idea

Mercury recipe.

So that the throwing was not limited in use.

[glad pulsar]

liquid metal?

[thick mango]

Yes

[glad pulsar]

theres the telekinetic grab spell

[thick mango]

So what?

[glad pulsar]

so more?

[thick mango]

Does it make liquid metal?

It seems to be no

[glad pulsar]

make?

[thick mango]

And I propose just the same synthesis thereof.

[glad pulsar]

i think theres plenty of liquid metal already

and we cant energize it sadly

[thick mango]

Perhaps rings can be split on it.

Or

Gold can be equipped by more electrons, protons, and some neutrons.

We get mercury

Liquid metal

The main thing is to maintain the tightness of the storage container.

[glad pulsar]

i

really dont know how to feel about the mod's sprites

the weapons look p cool

but the wands and rings

[glad pulsar]

goddamit you cant prick chalice when invincible

h

ok so game crashes when i pick archangel

and try to exit the game/the depth

nvm fixed

also theres no lore documents

not in sewers/prison atleast

scorpios throw darts

but not like

in the good way

archangel is pretty fun

[glad pulsar]

imp is very broken

the sprite i mean

arch's scorpios have the shittiest accuracy i have ever seen

its clearly not

or is it

[spring patrol]

@safe phoenix is your mod going to be in #version-roles ??

[glad pulsar]

one day

also uh

hell eyes cant die

oops it crashed

[spring patrol]

What's the potion that has 0/2?

[glad pulsar]

blood vial

zealots class item

gain a charge when youstab yourself with it

use a charge to become invincible for some time

[spring patrol]

Like chalice?

[glad pulsar]

yea but less deadly

it keeps crashing

ok ara Hell's Eye needs a lot of polishing

my game froze

https://tenor.com/view/double-king-gif-8551443

fucking Hell's Eyes wiggling around the place and being immortal for some reason

nvm its back

it froze again

anyways with my Archangel in Limbo 4eva im gonna say that
it needs more polish
scorpios need better accuracy
some sprites are wonky
hells eye is freeze central
chalice is far too op with it
blood vial levels up extremely slowly, i got it to lv5 in halls
wand sprites are difficult to differentiate one another from
theres minor text error here and there
!!!NO TEXT FOUND!!! is a pretty cool looking class armor
for some odd reason theres no lore pages in sewers/prison
the game likes to crash on you sometimes

anyways heres a good seed for Zealot, theres a chalice, a +3whip from a sac altar in prisons, +2 plate and +2 furor somewhere in metro
SoU is the cloak looking rune and healing is the blue pot

wait i forgor to give the seed

FSP-TNM-SVN

[mint nebula]

i watched that animation when i was 10 years old

[glad pulsar]

double king is a good vid

[mint nebula]

d-d-d-dwRArf king!!1!1!

[mint nebula]

fiend be like

[glad pulsar]

UPDATE

i maneged to descend a floor

and it no longer freezes

if you see this dont summon hell eyes

also wtf my vial only has 1 charge now

[safe phoenix]

probably not

not enough demand

at least for now

[safe phoenix]

if you can explain what exactly happens ill ahve it fixed in the next hour

[glad pulsar]

i dont exactly know

but one very apparent thing is that

they dont die

they just stay at 1 hp

i think thats one of the reasons

if ever a mob strikes them maybe it crashes?

[safe phoenix]

i think its probably because of the chaos within talent

oh i see why

give me a second to fix that

[glad pulsar]

anyways i finished a run with archangel

its very fun

the vial charges are really weird

like +9 has 1 max charge and +10 has 4

[safe phoenix]

theres a chance some talent code messed the charges up

[safe phoenix]

oh the error with that is it only updates charges when it upgrades

ill fix that as well

[glad pulsar]

other thing i founf out

[safe phoenix]

ok i just forgot to actually maek hell eye die lmao

[glad pulsar]

bruh

immortal eye

also is hell eye immovable?

[safe phoenix]

no

[glad pulsar]

ah

[safe phoenix]

but thats on purpose

idk i thought it was cool to be able to push it around

[glad pulsar]

when you swap places with them they start to wiggle

[safe phoenix]

yeah cause thats their walking animation

[glad pulsar]

aww

why do i find that cute

anyways otha thing

[safe phoenix]

i thought it was funny to maek their walk just disintegrating into chaos

[glad pulsar]

archangel crashes when you try to summon something if every spot around you is occupied

[safe phoenix]

ok i think ive fixed the vial charges and hell eye now

[safe phoenix]

ok ill have to write in an exception for that rq

fixing so many bugs at once lmao

[glad pulsar]

also the cooldown message for vial doesnt happen

[safe phoenix]

yeah i already fixed taht yesterday

just didnt release it yet

[glad pulsar]

every mod has that stage at the beginning

[safe phoenix]

btw ill probably rework the devotee subclass

to work a bit like gladiator, where you can select different effects of what your wrath does

instead of it just damaging everything around you and healing

[glad pulsar]

ooh

aight its time for the current .jar to be scrunged and to wait for the latest ver to be released

[safe phoenix]

that or ill make devotee interact with item curses that was my other idea

[glad pulsar]

also killing yourself via blood vial doesnt count for the friendly fire badge

[safe phoenix]

weird, it should

ill see about that one

also il implement a warning for if you kill yourself with blood vial

like how the chalice works

[glad pulsar]

the vial formula is lv+2 no

for damage taken

[safe phoenix]

yes

and if nihilism procs the damage is halved

[glad pulsar]

ah ok

very simple to understand

[safe phoenix]

ill also add a full changelog in a bit

uploading

https://github.com/Arackulele/devoted-pixel-dungeon/releases/tag/V.0.1.2

@glad pulsar there ya go

[glad pulsar]

thanks 👍

[safe phoenix]

not entirely sure what to add next

probably something alchemy related

also right i still have to fix visible power triggering from self damage lmao

[jade eagle]

Hey, @safe phoenix ? How do I turn a .jar file to an .apk file?

[glad pulsar]

you cant

[safe phoenix]

you cant

[glad pulsar]

ara is making the apk file rn

[safe phoenix]

i still ahve to sign the apk and stuff

otherwise it wont be usable on android

im just reading up on some stuff to get the apk to work

its a bit finniky

[jade eagle]

So i need to wait.

[safe phoenix]

yeah

anyways if anyone has any cool content suggestions ro changes i should make

feel free to tell me

[glad pulsar]

does the hells eye explosion talent destroy items

[safe phoenix]

it works the same as the skeleton explosion

btw do you think the texture changes are good?

[glad pulsar]

hmm

for the melee weapons

yes*

exception being assassin blade

hold on lemme get the all sprites

[safe phoenix]

im not quite sure about some of the wand designs

nothing that cant be changed tho

[glad pulsar]

my problem with the wands is

they look far too similar

[safe phoenix]

well the point was to make them look a bit less ugly but some definetly lost a bit of uniqueness

[glad pulsar]

also regrowth looks way to "caustic"

[safe phoenix]

disintegration, living earth and regrowth dont feel right

[glad pulsar]

maybe make the green abit darker

[mint nebula]

looks like the wand of acid spray

kinda

[glad pulsar]

yeah disint and LE look kinda meh tbh

the brew resprites are good

except for infernal brew

the contrast is a bit too high

[safe phoenix]

il turn that down

[glad pulsar]

Zealot's !!!NO TEXT FOUND!!! looks amazing

that robe is a 10/10

[safe phoenix]

wait i forgot to actually name that thing lmao

[glad pulsar]

arcane armor pot is really good too

[glad pulsar]

[safe phoenix]

i was gonna name it like zealots veil

[glad pulsar]

sounds p good

[safe phoenix]

do these look better?

[glad pulsar]

LE and disint definitely

[mint nebula]

shouldnt it be hero's veil

[mint nebula]

yes

[glad pulsar]

its Mage's Robe no

[mint nebula]

Hero's robe
Hero's armor
Hero's cloak
and hero's uhhhh

what was the name of the rogue's armor

[glad pulsar]

garb

[mint nebula]

yes

their name now starts with hero's

[safe phoenix]

less contrast on the infernal brew

[mint nebula]

it looks infernal

[safe phoenix]

much less vibrant assasins blade

[glad pulsar]

its not the vibrant that bothers me

its the handle

inferno brew is fantastic btw

[safe phoenix]

the wood?

or to you mean the hilt

[glad pulsar]

the hilt mb

[safe phoenix]

yeah i reversed the colors on that one

i suppose i can revert that

ok that should be all the texture changes

[mint nebula]

@dusky zealot thread

[dusky zealot]

Thanks

Is there an apk?

[safe phoenix]

not yet no

but im working on that one

[dusky zealot]

[safe phoenix]

ok it is now named lmao

[mint nebula]

nice

[safe phoenix]

OK working on the apk

Almost done

[mint nebula]

CEHC

[jade eagle]

Ping me when its finished pls

[glad pulsar]

ara do you have an icon for DevPD

[jade eagle]

Yeah I think any made one

[safe phoenix]

not yet no

[jade eagle]

Hey @safe phoenix, can you make it possible so that you can imbue Mage's special wand with seeds, so that it gains their power?

[safe phoenix]

that doesnt seem like something the mage should be able to do

[mint nebula]

will you make one

[glad pulsar]

otha thing

[mint nebula]

[glad pulsar]

make the pillars for the title screen different

the bg pillars

[safe phoenix]

probably

[jade eagle]

I figured wand of magic missile had no special abilities

[safe phoenix]

i was gonna make them stained glass panes

[glad pulsar]

cathedral style?

[mint nebula]

i was asking that to Tarz

but good to know!

[jade eagle]

Also, why the hell do we need logic in a game?

[mint nebula]

what is cathedral

[glad pulsar]

uhh

[jade eagle]

You wot m8?

[glad pulsar]

church but bigger

[safe phoenix]

balance wise

also theming

ok ive made it so devoted no longer shares its save path with shattered

[safe phoenix]

you can now have both independently of each other lol

[jade eagle]

Just do it, i'm sure it won't change much things in the game, just makes Mage's staff more useful

[glad pulsar]

what

wdym more useful

is it not useful enough already

[safe phoenix]

its already useful enough

yeah lmao

[jade eagle]

How?

I just thought of adding something new to mage class

[safe phoenix]

early game its a great sou sink since its aweapon youll use throughout the entire game

and lategame its encessary for subclasses

[jade eagle]

It's useful only with other wands

[glad pulsar]

its the point

its a staff

its not an ultimate object

its made for magic

maybe with regrowth

[jade eagle]

I thought the staff could give a portion of its power to other wands you have?

[glad pulsar]

with magic missile

and thats the effect of regular mm

[mint nebula]

ok

[jade eagle]

Also how do you make the textfont italic?

[glad pulsar]

use *

at the beginning and end of a word

like this

wait hold on

[jade eagle]

ok thanks

[glad pulsar]

*like this*

[mint nebula]

thats not unique from the staff, thats what the magic missile wand and imbue do

[safe phoenix]

yeah

[jade eagle]

I thought the point was to give ideas for the game, why are you guys opposing?

Yeah, that's what i thought

[safe phoenix]

cause we think its a bad idea lol

for real this time

[glad pulsar]

does it fit in the lore

no

[mint nebula]

what if you suggest it in #1017621268448673824😃

[glad pulsar]

why would a staff be powered by seeds

[mint nebula]

you can do that in darkest PD

[glad pulsar]

with wands?

[jade eagle]

Wait really?

[mint nebula]

weapons

[jade eagle]

Why does it have to fit in the lore?

[mint nebula]

yes

[safe phoenix]

consistent in game logic

[glad pulsar]

why should it not

[jade eagle]

Ohh thats better

[safe phoenix]

the mage specializes in magic

not nature

thats the huntresses thing

[glad pulsar]

thats wardens role

if warden can tip her weapons

then yes

[safe phoenix]

itd just be taking away another classes unique functionality

[glad pulsar]

thats a good idea

[safe phoenix]

yeah

[jade eagle]

Well what if he made the staff so it can absorb the seeds' nutrients

[safe phoenix]

https://github.com/Arackulele/devoted-pixel-dungeon/releases/tag/V.0.1.3

hello android users

[glad pulsar]

ara if DevPD could be summarized in 2 colors what would they be

[safe phoenix]

red and ourple

[glad pulsar]

okie

[jade eagle]

And black

[safe phoenix]

Running on my tablet

[glad pulsar]

noice

[safe phoenix]

tested it on my phone as well

seems to work fine

[jade eagle]

Yeah

I see you made the stones and scrolls look different

[thick mango]

They didn't cut them out!

[glad pulsar]

cut waht

also funny thing

theres a weird spear sprite on the item spritesheet

[safe phoenix]

its an unfinished weapon i made

[glad pulsar]

ah ok

thats why its slightly offset

[jade eagle]

Level 2 and i already found a plate armor

[glad pulsar]

oh yeah warrior's class armor looks

substancially different than shattered

[mint nebula]

why do you have the Zealot's throwables as warrior

[safe phoenix]

I made it slightly broader lmao

To distinguish it from plate armor

Idk if that's a good or bad change

[glad pulsar]

if the zealot was a dungeon region what would he be

[safe phoenix]

Demon halls

[glad pulsar]

oki

[still tundra]

gotta try it rn

and also give you a star on github

thisthing is op early in the game

[still tundra]

nooooooo my beloved assassin blade

[glad pulsar]

proposed icon

literally a recolor but eh

me was bored

anyways will come back in like 30 minutes, will go buy some groceries

[safe phoenix]

Its like even with all the other shielding talents

[still tundra]

no

you prick and lose 4-6 hp

and you regen 4 with the shielding

[safe phoenix]

nice

[safe phoenix]

you loose 2 + your level

[still tundra]

Exactly

Btw super cool mod

[safe phoenix]

thanks

[safe phoenix]

nice, ill use this for now i might make a different one later

[safe phoenix]

i can nerf it

[jade eagle]

I found them on hero remains cuz i played last game as zealot

[mint nebula]

oh makes sense

[jade eagle]

Yeah

[mint nebula]

oh its also possible because you can just transmute the rocks to get ther thrown weapon

[jade eagle]

Yes thats true

[glad pulsar]

i heard from #pd-general theres gonna be a deity system maybe

[safe phoenix]

yeah

im adding that and itll replace the sacrifice altars most probably

btw new title screen

[mint nebula]

beautiful

[glad pulsar]

pretty cool

[spring patrol]

I have an idea: do something to make the hero unlock zealot

[mint nebula]

😐

[spring patrol]

I can't find da ghost

Its in depth 3

[spring patrol]

My game crashed when I pick up the mask and go to the next depth

[glad pulsar]

yea thats normal

reload the game 2 times and ye hould be fine

[spring patrol]

Doesn't work

[still tundra]

Die at a sacrificial altar

[safe phoenix]

Not entirely sure why that happens, ill try fixing it

[glad pulsar]

yeah happened for me too in 0.1.1

[safe phoenix]

So it crashes after you choose a subclass and go to the next floor?

[glad pulsar]

crashed 2 times

once when i exited the selection menu

didnt save my data

then i redid the teng fight, picked a sub and tried to go down

crashed agai but it saved my data after teng

[safe phoenix]

Ill definetly look into it today when i have time

[spring patrol]

It seems to crash when you bring the mask to the next floor

[safe phoenix]

debug moment

[safe phoenix]

ok i believe ive found the glitch thats causing the game to crash

its something to do with the badges

ill release a fixed version in a bit

iev added the zealot to all the all classes/subclasses badges

[safe phoenix]

@spring patrol @glad pulsar fixed thisbug, ill release the update in a bit

[glad pulsar]

nice

[safe phoenix]

also i have to nerf visible power lmao

ill only make it activate if you take 1 or 2 damage instead of it being percentage based probably

[spring patrol]

Its too op

[glad pulsar]

whats that again

fear enemies when blocking damage?

that could synergize with a whip and plate armor

[spring patrol]

Finally

[safe phoenix]

Gain artifact recharge when taking damage thats less than 7 percentof your max hp excluding self damage

[glad pulsar]

chalice moment

ok but srlsy chalice is absurdly broken with zealot

[safe phoenix]

True lmao

[glad pulsar]

it would be a good idea to nerf it

because like

[spring patrol]

Pricking when invulnerable

[glad pulsar]

cant

hardcoded

[safe phoenix]

Btw therell be staling on the vial cooldow s you cant spam it as much and so youcwnt abuse it with archangel

[glad pulsar]

the prick option dissapears when invincible

[glad pulsar]

you still can on boss floors

[safe phoenix]

There wll be, i havent addedit yet

[glad pulsar]

also will you buff summon accuracy

[safe phoenix]

So if theres no enemies left on a floor, the cooldwn will be incredbly long , and itll be longer the less mobs youre killing

[glad pulsar]

i slept for like 40 actions and a fully powered scorpio hit a piranha once

once

[safe phoenix]

It just has base accurcy lol, ill buff it

[glad pulsar]

i rolled pretty bad odds then

also since this thread isnt about class ideas anymore will you rename it or keep ti that way

[safe phoenix]

Decpted Pd ideas thread

[spring patrol]

Nice

[safe phoenix]

Btw ive decided the next class im adding will be focused on spells

Since those are very underexplored in shattered

[spring patrol]

What's the name

[safe phoenix]

Not sure yst

Heretic?

[fierce ingot]

Ara Ara 👀

[spring patrol]

The name of the thread is misspelled

[safe phoenix]

Youre the 600th person to make that joke im sendng you a pipe bomb

devoted Pd ideas thread

[fierce ingot]

I can send something else your way if you'll do it lol.

[safe phoenix]

Dk how i managed to do that lmao

anyways , some sprites for special items youll be able to get via a quest

[fierce ingot]

Dat ring tho.

[glad pulsar]

that blade looks gnarly

the ring is not very ShPD style

but it does look p cool

[safe phoenix]

iits not a normal ring

its supposed to look much more powerful

[spring patrol]

I love the wand

[glad pulsar]

scorched

[fierce ingot]

Gives sorta LoL vibes ngl.

[safe phoenix]

still havent played scorched lmao

[glad pulsar]

it got abbandonned iirc

[safe phoenix]

if that mod also has a heretic class ill have to get a different name lmao

[glad pulsar]

defiler

[fierce ingot]

Heret1c

There you go.

[safe phoenix]

tll be an optional quest you can do based on your class thatll give you a very powerful item

the warrior gets a special sword, mage a special wand, rogue a special ring, huntress a special thrown weapon, not sure what to give zealot

[glad pulsar]

have you considered adding more enemies to the roster

it could be nice

[safe phoenix]

yeah and ill probably do that at some point

more variety

[spring patrol]

Zealot gets an artifact

[glad pulsar]

cosmic monolith

[safe phoenix]

i dont want it to be an artifact cause thats lame lol

zealot already starts with one

[glad pulsar]

zeal already has an artif

waste of 2 slots

[safe phoenix]

yeah

[glad pulsar]

wellnot waste

[safe phoenix]

yeah so not sure what to give zealot

[glad pulsar]

a bow-type item

[safe phoenix]

maybe it doesnt do damage but is instead used to debuff enemies

[spring patrol]

Zealot gets a special armor

[safe phoenix]

What would it do tho

[spring patrol]

Idk

[glad pulsar]

ara have you played the binding of isaac

if yes theres a bunch of ideas you can borrow from taht game

[safe phoenix]

no but ive heard a good bit about it

[safe phoenix]

who should the guy be giving you the quest

not entirely sure what species i want to make him

[glad pulsar]

maybe depending on class

[jade eagle]

Its ability should be called "Blood Moon" or something like that, it should work like the scroll of retribution or psionic blast but instead of giving blindness and weakness it should give haste

[safe phoenix]

well theres already armor abilties

for zealot

[jade eagle]

Oh okay

[safe phoenix]

i feel like adddign asecondary one is weird

[glad pulsar]

dark arts from isaac

timefreeze for 5 turns, immateriality, every enemy you pass thru takes damage

[jade eagle]

I thought you didn't add one to it since you asked that question

[safe phoenix]

no im talking about a special quest im adding

[jade eagle]

Ohh ok

[glad pulsar]

will warrior's sword be Excalibur

[jade eagle]

Yes please

[glad pulsar]

should the quest have subclasses in minds

assassin gets the Muramasa/Masamune

[jade eagle]

Okay but who will give the quests

[glad pulsar]

an npc

i see ara has been looking at the necromancer sprites

[safe phoenix]

yes lol

[jade eagle]

What will the npc look like

[glad pulsar]

so maybe a ghost?

[safe phoenix]

probably not for now, but at some point maybe

[glad pulsar]

ooh cool

[safe phoenix]

the npc will be able to appear anywhere in the prisons up until the end of dwarven halls

[jade eagle]

Yes thats acceptable

[safe phoenix]

i wonder why the blacksmith is the only troll in the game

[glad pulsar]

floor 6-19?

[safe phoenix]

yeah'

[glad pulsar]

trolls are solitary

[jade eagle]

Trolls are endangered

[glad pulsar]

this guy lives in a veryy abandonned place

[safe phoenix]

his design looks like very cool i wish they did more with that

[glad pulsar]

if e ignore the furries

[safe phoenix]

gnolls are the most hilarious enemy concept

[jade eagle]

About the special weapon for Zealot

[glad pulsar]

wait the troll's anvil lights up when struck in the animation

[jade eagle]

I don't think it should be a weapon but a support artifact instead

[safe phoenix]

only the warrior gets a weapon

[safe phoenix]

not an artifact

[jade eagle]

Ohh ok

[safe phoenix]

thats just clogging up both artifact slots

[jade eagle]

Oh

[safe phoenix]

itll probably be a special ranged item like the huntresses bow

[glad pulsar]

wait what does huntress get

[safe phoenix]

that natures javelin thing

its a ranged weapon

with infinite durability

[jade eagle]

A gun

[safe phoenix]

thatll have some interaction with plants and seeds

[glad pulsar]

ah

decent

[jade eagle]

Hmmm

[glad pulsar]

hmm what other funny things should be added to DevPD

oh i know

the forsaken chocolate bar from a certain game i play

[jade eagle]

A jester in the prison, since the Dwarf king decided he wasn't funny so he put him to prison

[glad pulsar]

wh

why would DK send a dwarf upstairs

theres plenty of space there

a human jester would eb cool tho

[jade eagle]

Oh yeah ur right

[glad pulsar]

or gnoll

[jade eagle]

Maybe in a cage in the dwarven halls

Dwarven jester would make more sense though

[glad pulsar]

whats the imp dialogue again at the end

some kind of paladin

[jade eagle]

Can't recall

[glad pulsar]

maybe we can fight a paladin for the quest instead

[safe phoenix]

well the quest will probably involve minibosses

like how the lost ghost quest works

just more interesting ones

[jade eagle]

No don't do thta

It will be harder

[safe phoenix]

oh btw itll also be relentlessly difficult

so not something you can do every run

[jade eagle]

Ok hen

[safe phoenix]

but the reward will be worth it

[jade eagle]

Then*

I haven't seen quest givers in the demon corridors

Whatever the region is called

[safe phoenix]

cause theres no quest in demon halls

[jade eagle]

There should b

[safe phoenix]

but i think its fine the way it is, demon halls are too hostile for you to go out of your way to do questing

[jade eagle]

Like you meeting the ambitious imp from before

[safe phoenix]

well you already meet him twice

[jade eagle]

That would make sense

So what?

[safe phoenix]

in dwarven halls and at his shop after the dwarf king

[jade eagle]

Shop?

[glad pulsar]

his shop yes

[jade eagle]

I can't recall finding a shop after killing the dwarf king

[safe phoenix]

troll child

[jade eagle]

I must've played an old version

[glad pulsar]

do the imp quest lol

[safe phoenix]

if i do make the questgiver unique for each class thisll be the one for the warrior

[glad pulsar]

since warrior special is Excalibur should you fight another King

[safe phoenix]

oh also each class will fight a unique boss if that wasnt obvious

[glad pulsar]

nice

wait

how will the room generate

[safe phoenix]

not sure if i want to give the minibosses a unique room

probably tho

ill just make a boss room generate on the floor you find the npc on

like how the wandmaker quest works

[glad pulsar]

if the npc can generate from 6-19

[jade eagle]

What are we even talking about niw

Now

[glad pulsar]

its either scaling level or heavy backtracking

[safe phoenix]

the boss will definetly scale with your level

otherwise itd jsut end up in you coming back later when youre overleveled for it

[jade eagle]

Can you add an outside world

[safe phoenix]

theres another mod that does that

[jade eagle]

I know

[safe phoenix]

devoted is supposed to be like an expansion of shatterds design

[jade eagle]

Oh right.

[safe phoenix]

so probably not

[jade eagle]

I kinda thought of adding a storyline to the game, like the protagonist waking up in the middle of nowhere, in a forest

Nowhere to go since a forcefield is blocking them, except the stairs that lead to the dungeon

[safe phoenix]

well the storylines pretty clear

[glad pulsar]

boby said that the game hates more than 26 floors

having more than*

[safe phoenix]

its possible to change it with changing a ton of other classes

but its definetly take like, a lot of time

[jade eagle]

Add some monologue too

Let's pretend you're exiled from a town, with nothing to eat

Winter is coming and you need shelter

So you go down to find warmth

Let's exclude the forcefield thing

[safe phoenix]

pixel dungeons not a survival horror game lmao

[jade eagle]

Make it one

It will be more challenging that way

Immersive storyline also sounds neat

[safe phoenix]

devoted isnt there to do that

its a cool idea, but not what im trying to do

[jade eagle]

Okay

[safe phoenix]

you can always make your own mod with that idea if you want to

[jade eagle]

What is your goal?

Yeah you're right

[safe phoenix]

to expand upon shattereds content

[jade eagle]

Why am I even asking

[safe phoenix]

and to add more variation to the game

[jade eagle]

Yes true

[safe phoenix]

just make runs feel more unique and interesting\

[jade eagle]

So you are going to add quests based on what class you are using

[glad pulsar]

yep

[jade eagle]

Moreover, special bosses

And miscellaneous changes

[safe phoenix]

which are part of that quest

[jade eagle]

Yes

[glad pulsar]

the candles and ritual circles are a pretty cool concept

[safe phoenix]

the next thing after the quest will probably? be working on region variations, tho that will take some time

[glad pulsar]

it would be nice to use them for deities

[safe phoenix]

deities will probably be added at some point too

whenver i figure out how to make that concept feel engaging

[jade eagle]

"what the fuck is this, 4 meter tall gargoyle chasing me down the hallway"

You know cult of the lamb?

[glad pulsar]

yes

[jade eagle]

Maybe Ara should get an idea from that game about deities

Or BOI

Binding of isaac*

[glad pulsar]

TBOI is such a good game

its

kinda gross sometimes

im looking at you corpse

[jade eagle]

Lol

[safe phoenix]

i think thats the appeal lmao

[glad pulsar]

a better example would be tainted blue baby

because

like

[jade eagle]

Ok bye guys gonna go play DevPD with my battle axe and plate armor I found in Sewers 3

[safe phoenix]

lol

oh btw idk if anyone ever encountered it but i fixed the bug that made imp look fucked up

[glad pulsar]

i did

[jade eagle]

Lol i liked that one

[glad pulsar]

did you replace the demon.png file with the archangel summons

[safe phoenix]

yes lmao

now i just renamed the imp image to imp.png

idk why it was named demon in the first place

[glad pulsar]

what a dubious little creature

it is demonic in nature

[safe phoenix]

the imp is just a little guy i think

[glad pulsar]

i wana hug the imp

[jade eagle]

Take some ideas from Skillful

Like putting a merchant on the first floor, before and after the boss floors

[safe phoenix]

im not gonna just steal ideas lmao

[jade eagle]

At least do this

[safe phoenix]

why

the game really doesnt need more shopkeepers does it

[jade eagle]

What fucking ideas am I supposed to give

I am running out of them

[safe phoenix]

? any idea you want to give

doesnt mean im gonna add them

your ideas arent wrong ideas they just arent ones i think would fit

[jade eagle]

Okay then

DevPD ideas that actually make sense and are acceptable...

[glad pulsar]

cosmic monolith

talent crystals

Muramasa/Masamune for Rogue

[mint nebula]

omg terraria

[safe phoenix]

what does any of taht mean lol

[mint nebula]

omg terraria

[safe phoenix]

gameplay wise

[glad pulsar]

cosmic monolith is an enemy

very original not stolen

talent crystals are consumables that give you an extra talent

for any class

Muramasa/Masamune is the special class item for Rogue

from quest

[glad pulsar]

no

[glad pulsar]

not intended but yes

[safe phoenix]

the special rogue item is the ring

[glad pulsar]

yea ik

it would have been if the reward was subclass based

[safe phoenix]

for now just sticking to classes for time reasons

maybe after that il ladd subclass items

[jade eagle]

Storyline?

[glad pulsar]

theres more

[jade eagle]

Im dissapointed that Ara doesn't have the developer role, there should be a Devoted channel

[safe phoenix]

so what should be special about excalibur

obviously itll deal a lot of damage for a relatively low strength rewquirement

but i feel like it should have some special quirk

[glad pulsar]

special attacks?
multi-attack?
aoe/pierce effect
enhanced enchants
innate enchants
non-lowerable str requirement

[jade eagle]

Yeah it should

Yeah what soiled said

[glad pulsar]

its a lot of effects but only some should be taken

[safe phoenix]

i was thinking a passive effect, like it doing more damage the less your hp is

[jade eagle]

I'd prefer ground pound which causes a shockwave to stun enemies on an 16x16 tile

[safe phoenix]

thats already an armor ability

[jade eagle]

Oh

[glad pulsar]

for warrior

[jade eagle]

Maybe threatening? Making enemies feared and weakened?

Since its excalibur?

[glad pulsar]

weakened is decent

but fear is counter intuitive

[jade eagle]

Yeah maybe not feared

[glad pulsar]

it will just reduce damage with it

unless haste

[safe phoenix]

i feel like it could inflict weakened as a status

or crippled

[jade eagle]

Yeah

[glad pulsar]

also

if the boss scales with level

so should the reward no

[jade eagle]

True

It wouldn't be worth it if it wasn't that way

[safe phoenix]

i guess so

just gotta worry about balance later lol

[jade eagle]

Lol

Take your time

[safe phoenix]

my arm still hurts from going to the gym today lmao

so my coding is a little impaired

[jade eagle]

As I said

Take your time

[maiden sequoia]

@safe phoenix add wands. ☕

You can go to the wands thread in discord ☕

[glad pulsar]

yeah you can borrow some ideas from here

[jade eagle]

borrow

[jade eagle]

@safe phoenix there is a problem, the game is telling me to update it but it brings me to shattered 1.4.2 page and not yours

It brings me here

Can you apply the update to your game?

[safe phoenix]

oh i already disabled the update thing

just havent released it yet

itll be fixed next version

[jade eagle]

Okay

[glad pulsar]

some ideas for zealot special item

in order

[safe phoenix]

those all look fucking awesome

the sprites

[glad pulsar]

the Necronomicon, Sharanga and the Sacrificial Dagger

not my best spritesbut theire just concepts

[safe phoenix]

i feel like all of these could be used when i implement the subclass differences

zealot gets the sharanga, devotee the dagger and archangel the necronomicon

[glad pulsar]

yeah thats what i was thinking

necronomicon could summon the Archangel's god as an avatar

for a huge cost of blood and also maybe some items

[jade eagle]

You actually got my sacrificial dagger idea, looks too complex for a sacrificial dagger tho

[glad pulsar]

its not that complex i think

the hilt kinda

also yea sac daggers are awesome every game should have one

[jade eagle]

I was thinking of it looking like this

But yours doesnt look bad either

[jade eagle]

jojo stand moment

[glad pulsar]

Archangel when Archdevil comes in

[safe phoenix]

anyways im working on the mythical item quest now

[jade eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-gif-23324392

Archangel when pseudodevil comes in

[safe phoenix]

so the boss themings gonna be
A Paladin for warrior ( whose attacks do magic damage)
An evil wizard for mage (who is highly resistant to magic and debuffs)
Idk what kind of creature i want to do for rogue ( but theyll have mind vision and cripple the rogue)
And an amalgam like creature for huntress (thatll be able to pull her in with a chain)

[jade eagle]

For rogue, do a samurai

[safe phoenix]

yeah thatd work well

[jade eagle]

Alright good luck

By the way

Where is the mythical item quest going to appear?

[safe phoenix]

anywhere from floor 6 to floor 20

[jade eagle]

Okay

[glad pulsar]

for zealot

[safe phoenix]

i think itd be fun if they have to fight their god

as a test of skill

[jade eagle]

Who tf is gonna be the god of rogue

[safe phoenix]

im talking about zealot

[jade eagle]

Oh yes

What about the other classes

[jade eagle]

The amalgam should be something like a lizardman with a halberd

HEY YOU GOT MODERATOR ROLE!

[glad pulsar]

no

mod developer

with that comes a version channel

so this thread is a relic

[jade eagle]

Yeah i made a mistake

[mint nebula]

developers cant moderate their version channel

can**

[safe phoenix]

still have to wait for that

idk who to ask tbh lmao

[glad pulsar]

any senior mod

[jade eagle]

Ask a moderator

🤌🤌🤌

[safe phoenix]

do i just ping them or dm them

[glad pulsar]

dm is better

[jade eagle]

Yes

[safe phoenix]

ok just gotta wait now lol

[safe phoenix]

yknow ive been trying to to maek the sprite for the paladin

not entirely sure what he should look like tho

anyone have any idea

s

[glad pulsar]

bald

mohawk

mullet

probably white/blonde hair

[safe phoenix]

mans just gonna be an 80s pop star

[still tundra]

~~wow with so many ideas you should add him in the credits ~~

[safe phoenix]

if i use any of their art i will

though ill probably add an ideas section tot he end of my credits

[still tundra]

the tome looks awesome

[mint nebula]

i love em all

[still tundra]

they should be immune to invisibility

and can blink, stealing the rogue's invisibility

for example

you use cloak

you use it for 3 turns

[safe phoenix]

mind vision as in they can always see the rogue

[still tundra]

the boss blinks

[safe phoenix]

even when hes invisible

[still tundra]

it doesnt work for enemies

[safe phoenix]

well ill make it work

[still tundra]

and he becomes invisible for 3 turns

btw

how much time have you spent on the mod

[safe phoenix]

i started working on it a few weeks ago

only did a few things for fun and then decided to bring it here

[glad pulsar]

isnt there like a tag that ignores invis

used for Yog

[safe phoenix]

true

there is

[still tundra]

i tried making one without any coding experience and spent like 30 hours, i actually found out how to make my own boss

i completely removed goo and added the snake king

infinite evasion

can charge focus

[safe phoenix]

i mean adjusting and replacing already existing things is usually easier than adding entirely new things, but thats still impressive

[still tundra]

it makes him dodge surprise attacks

aaaand then accidentally deleted it 3 days ago

while updating android studio

[safe phoenix]

android studio user spotted

i only use it to pack my apks

[still tundra]

the ppl here told me to

[safe phoenix]

i just use intellij idea

its just the usual ide i use for java

[still tundra]

huhhhh

will it run on the desktop version?

[safe phoenix]

?

wdym

[still tundra]

cuz i got some problems with android studio

[safe phoenix]

you can use intellij to compile java apps yes

[still tundra]

also

[safe phoenix]

you just use these run configs

[still tundra]

i cannot understand how to compile to github

[safe phoenix]

you cant compile to github

you can push and pull to github

with git

[still tundra]

i have git

but for some reason

[safe phoenix]

i suggest reading up on it if you want good version control m tho its really not neccesary

git can be a bit finnicky sometimes

[still tundra]

i alr spent this whole weekend tryna do this

[safe phoenix]

https://product.hubspot.com/blog/git-and-github-tutorial-for-beginners

heres an article

[still tundra]

ok nice

thanks

intelij now

what does that mean

[safe phoenix]

theres a few different problems that cause this

[still tundra]

i did the same thing as you

[safe phoenix]

did you open your project correctly?

[still tundra]

i used github desktop

on github there was the thing "code"

and open in github desktop

[safe phoenix]

so you opened the project folder

in intellij

[still tundra]

ummm

i just touched dis

[safe phoenix]

oh idk i dont use github desktop

that probably works

[still tundra]

huh

so i guess i gotta open it normally

[turbid tundra]

for rogue, maybe something similar to tengu (traps, uses ranged attacks and generally tries to run away) would be fitting

[safe phoenix]

well the point is that they counter the classes mechanics

[turbid tundra]

I see

[safe phoenix]

and i feel like using traps and ranged attacks plays into the rogues gimmick ( going invisible makes the rogue undetectable for ranged attacks, pklus the rogue has bigger trap detection radius)

[turbid tundra]

hmmm

you mentioned mind vision and cripple

makes me think of like a giant spider king for some reason lol

[safe phoenix]

well it was gonna be a samurai

but a spider would also be cool

like a spinner queen

[turbid tundra]

mmm

[safe phoenix]

ill go ahead and close this thread since #🩸devoted exists now

[mint nebula]

ok

[glad pulsar]

goodbye

[still tundra]

Amogus