Self VS Public Roll Macro | MapTool | Page 1

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 3:57 PM

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Currently in process of setting something up to either post to chat privately for the person doing the macro or publicly for group to see.
Friend helped me finally get it in a mostly functional spot with one issue of formatting;

[h: abort(input(
    "DestroyCheck|0|Do you want others to see this chart?|CHECK"))]
    
[h: DestroyTable = 
"<tr>
    <td style = 'text-align:center'>
        5th Level
    </td>

    <td>
        Destroys Undead of CR 1/2 or lower
    </td>
</tr>

<tr>
    <td style = 'text-align:center'>
        8th Level
    </td>

    <td>
        Destroys Undead of CR 1 or lower
    </td>
</tr>

<tr>
    <td style = 'text-align:center'>
        11th Level
    </td>

    <td>
        Destroys Undead of CR 2 or lower
    </td>
</tr>

<tr>
    <td style = 'text-align:center'>
        14th Level
    </td>

    <td>
        Destroys Undead of CR 3 or lower
    </td>
</tr>

<tr>
    <td style = 'text-align:center'>
        17th Level
    </td>

    <td>
        Destroys Undead of CR 4 or lower
    </td>
</tr>"
]

    [h: thetable = '<div style="background-color: #b5b5b5; color: black; padding-top:2px; padding-bottom:5px; padding-left:8px; padding-right:8px;">
    <b>'+Name+'</b>
    <table border="1" cellspacing = "0" cellpadding = "3" style = "background-color: white; color: black;">
        <tr><td style = "width:60px; text-align:center; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;">Cleric Level</td><td style = "text-align:center">Undead CR</td></tr>'
        +DestroyTable+
    '</table>
</div>']


[IF(!DestroyCheck), CODE:{
    [s: thetable]
};{
    [r: thetable]

}]``` this is the code and the image is the 2 results....is there a way to have "thetable =" NOT show up for the 'self post'? Have it be hidden or not showing or something?

I presume the << >> above/below the post is also unavoidable or....?

mortal spear Sep 21, 2023, 4:27 PM

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Personally, I'd just do this [h: broadcast(thetable, "self")]

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 4:29 PM

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i'll give that a go

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ah wait broadcast requires the lock deal doesnt it, forgot that

mortal spear Sep 21, 2023, 4:29 PM

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lock?

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 4:30 PM

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disallow player editing of macros

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"dont have permission to call the broadcast function"

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not a big deal

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It works, looks similar to /self for a macro i did in the past

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(i presume theres no way to stop it stretching all the way across chat like that?)

mortal spear Sep 21, 2023, 4:31 PM

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Set the size of the table in html.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 4:32 PM

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thought i already did that?

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whats it missing in the HTML for size?

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 4:35 PM

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mortal spear Personally, I'd just do this ``` [h: broadcast(thetable, "self")]```

just as an aside, I assume the << thetable= >> from my earlier image is an unavoidable side effect of doing [s:]?

mortal spear Sep 21, 2023, 4:35 PM

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Something like <table width = "300px" border="1" cellspacing = "0" cellpadding = "3" style = "background-color: white; color: black;">

mortal spear Sep 21, 2023, 4:36 PM

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storm musk just as an aside, I assume the << thetable= >> from my earlier image is an unavo...

Not sure about that... I never use roll option output in chat. I use broadcast for everything.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 4:36 PM

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Really?

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Doesnt it get irksome at times tho with everything having to use a trusted function?

mortal spear Sep 21, 2023, 4:37 PM

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Everything my players call comes through their character sheet (just a slew of macrolink images and text)... and everything called from the character sheet comes through a lib token, so it's always trusted.

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My players have one macro on their tokens: "Character Sheet" 😉

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 4:39 PM

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Ah. Yeah we dont do that as much. We minimize full automation in case of breakage or other stuff. But fair enough (not to say we dont have a FEW trusted things but we try to avoid it)

mortal spear Sep 21, 2023, 4:40 PM

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If you have code on tokens, then anytime one thing changes you have to propagate changes to every token. That's a huge problem. Better to have a single macro that they all call.

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Plus, you're hamstringing yourself not having access to trusted functions.

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Btw, if you're outputting things like charts, you might not want to send them to chat. You could output them to frame5() and then you can use html 5... which is a lot better that the html3.2 you're stuck with in the chat window. And then players can also snap tables they use a lot to tabs, or to the side of their screen, etc.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 4:49 PM

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mortal spear Btw, if you're outputting things like charts, you might not want to send them to...

well aware. The only reason im doing it for this chart is because its small enough to not warrant a window pop up IMO.

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That said, if my player wants it as a window, i can easily adjust it for that.

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I have a giant list of cheat sheets i made with frame5's for the SWRPG framework im developing. I only did chat output for this one because its such a small amount of info and easily postable to chat

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:18 PM

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@storm musk

is there a way to have "thetable =" NOT show up for the 'self post'? Have it be hidden or not showing or something?

    [s: thetable]
};{
    [r: thetable]
}]```
use `[r, s: thetable]` for the self-part. The `s` is just for filtering people (like `gm` is). The visual formatting is not changed though, which means you essentially post `[thetable]` to self which includes the whole variable display stuff.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:18 PM

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distant zodiac <@142877245319413760> > is there a way to have "thetable =" NOT show up for the...

i swear we tried that to no avail but ill check again

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:19 PM

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if that is not enough try also using [r, if(... but I think the [r, s: should work

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:19 PM

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distant zodiac if that is not enough try also using `[r, if(...` but I think the `[r, s:` shoul...

is there a way to check/know without someone in the chat to see? because they look the same to me.

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At least with broadcast self it doesnt show the picture, and /self usually italicizes everything postd after it

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:22 PM

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do you want an identifier just for testing now or in general for later?

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maybe something like

    [r, s: "Hidden<br>"]
    [r, s: thetable]

in your code block?

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Not sure? End of the day, i just like visual feedback, so a way to actually indicate its working properl may be best.

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I suppose I could <i></i> the entire table....

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:25 PM

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For checking visibility you can run maptool twice. One instance opens a server, the other one connects to it. Then you can simulate GM/player situations.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Thats true

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:26 PM

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If you want confirmation for later, I'd put some text above the table

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:28 PM

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okay so r, s does work. thanks for that multi client tricvk didnt even think on it.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:28 PM

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distant zodiac If you want confirmation for later, I'd put some text above the table

dont suppose theres a way to put intalics on a variable call?

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cause apparently [r, s: <i> thetable</i>] doesnt work lol

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I don't think you can easily modify the table afterwards. But you know the choice for DestroyCheck before you create the table, so you could include conditional formatting in the <table ... part.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:35 PM

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distant zodiac I don't think you can easily modify the table afterwards. But you know the choic...

what ya mean? like make a sort of....

thetable = ' '```type deal or something? or am i misunderstanding?

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:41 PM

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I think in this part you can include an if() with a font-style: italic;

[h: thetable = '<div style="background-color: #b5b5b5; color: black; padding-top:2px; padding-bottom:5px; padding-left:8px; padding-right:8px;">
    <b>'+Name+'</b>
    <table border="1" cellspacing = "0" cellpadding = "3" style = "background-color: white; color: black;">
        <tr><td style = "width:60px; text-align:center; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;">Cleric Level</td><td style = "text-align:center">Undead CR</td></tr>'
        +DestroyTable+
    '</table>
</div>']

in this line:

<table border="1" cellspacing = "0" cellpadding = "3" style = "background-color: white; color: black;'+if(!DestroyCheck, 'font-style: italic;', '')+'">

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By the way puzzling in the variables with 'text'+...+'text' becomes fairly hard to read if you need multiple insertions.
You can use strformat() for it.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:44 PM

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distant zodiac By the way puzzling in the variables with `'text'+...+'text'` becomes fairly har...

wouldnt even begin to know how to do strformat

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:45 PM

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distant zodiac I think in this part you can include an if() with a `font-style: italic;` ``` [h...

so unless im misunderstanding, basically have an if at the start for if(destroycheck) then code font-style: italic; and just stick it in the middle of the table code?

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:47 PM

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This function
if(!DestroyCheck, 'font-style: italic;', '')
checks for !DestroyCheck and either returns 'font-style: italic;' (a string) or '' (empty string). The string is inserted in the rest of the table definition.

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This is with strformat

[h: thetable = strformat('<div style="background-color: #b5b5b5; color: black; padding-top:2px; padding-bottom:5px; padding-left:8px; padding-right:8px;">
    <b>%{Name}</b>
    <table border="1" cellspacing = "0" cellpadding = "3" style = "background-color: white; color: black; %s">
        <tr><td style = "width:60px; text-align:center; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;">Cleric Level</td><td style = "text-align:center">Undead CR</td></tr>
        %s
    </table>
</div>',
if(!DestroyCheck, 'font-style: italic;', ''),
DestroyTable)]

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:57 PM

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distant zodiac This is with strformat ``` [h: thetable = strformat('<div style="background-colo...

Ah. Wait isnt that gonna break? u just have %s there and destroytable is after it.

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 7:58 PM

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The basic idea is this:

[h: variable = "YAY!"]
[h: formatted_string = strformat("Some text string in quotes where you can put in a %{variable} or put in a placeholder %s which is referenced at the end", 1d20+5)]

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You get a text like
Some text string in quotes where you can put in a YAY! or put in a placeholder 19 which is referenced at the end

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 7:59 PM

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how does it know to put the 'destroytable' in at the %s tho?

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 8:00 PM

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in order

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There are two %s in the code and two things given to strformat to put in.

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strformat("Some %s text %s with %s placeholders", 1, 2, 3)
makes
Some 1 text 2 with 3 placeholders

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The %s is a format option and tells it to format it as a string. You can also do specific number formatting or padding etc.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 8:02 PM

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aaaah okay

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yeah i didnt notice that first %s in the table string

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just saw the one where destroy table was

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so if im reading this right

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IF destroycheck, then insert font style italic

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OTHERWISE empty

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then insert destroytable at second %s

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is basically gist of it?

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 8:04 PM

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yes

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 8:04 PM

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gotcha.

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so if i understand this right, this will italicize everything BUT the name output in the division?

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or will it italicize the name as well?

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Oh, yeah. Only the table content.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Just checking.

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i'll see how it looks in a sec

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not the worst

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 8:11 PM

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In the table code I posted you could also do the %{Name} insert with %s and move the , Name to the end. For variables that are ready you have multiple options and I like to place them into the string so you don't have to look for %s and match them with the appended inserts.

I didn't do it for the italics because that's a function. You can't do %{if(!DestroyCheck, 'font-style: italic;', '')}. You could however prepare the result beforehand like [h: self_italic = if(!DestroyCheck, 'font-style: italic;', '')] and then do %{self_italic} in the table code.

I didn't do it for the long DestroyTable insert. Most likely %{DestroyTable} will also work, but I had issues with long strings at some point, and the %s version was more reliable then.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 8:12 PM

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distant zodiac In the table code I posted you could also do the `%{Name}` insert with `%s` and ...

nah i appreciate the %{name}. i much prefer to keep stuff where it 'should be' when possible

distant zodiac Sep 21, 2023, 8:13 PM

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yeah that's my point exactly. I just wanted to explain why I used different methods and what there is to consider.

storm musk Sep 21, 2023, 8:13 PM

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Fair,.

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