lots of out of combat options
#rw ttrpg thread
dark rain
regal mulch
but doing something like that does leave you with some very glaring weaknesses
dark rain
the party can fill those in
regal mulch
first off any karma based attacks you are never going to survive if we add creatures with those
dark rain
i might have -5 to taming but someone else will prob have a good amount
regal mulch
finesse means if you try to get explosives crafted youre dead
no allure means you have no social skills and scavengers will hate you more than the artificer
dark rain
i thought comprehension was for crafting
regal mulch
it is
but finesse is more for like
crafting things that will go terribly wrong if done incorrectly
like an explosive
regal mulch
should we change the stat system up at all though
dark rain
also hunter already had -4 to will and allure
so the extra -1 doesnt really matter
LOL
back it goes
regal mulch
ah fuck did i not fix hunters values like i did the rest
wait i only did monk and survivor
dark rain
you didnt change anything after monk
lol
atm if you want more than 2 good skills you have to go hard into disadvantages
which kinda sucks
regal mulch
should we change it so you have more skill increases at the start/through character creation
or buff the positives that species give
dark rain
i think you should give more points out thru leveling
regal mulch
+3 each level?
so you can get 3 max skills through leveling
rn you have uh
assuming you made everything 0 you would have 22 points left
i feel like you need more there
74 points and you can max everything out
hm
dark rain
if ur gonna do no minuses then you get this
regal mulch
9/10 points in character creation instead of 6?
dark rain
i dunno
regal mulch
how many points should you have though out of the 75
factoring in the -4 and +5 you have from character creation
dark rain
gave myself a flat 30 points and got this
regal mulch
let me try can you send the sheets
dark rain
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VH0NSxUPmlN3RxhtCQ2aqzA2MaCfBzU5_dMpbo-RuX0/edit?usp=sharing
regal mulch
gonna give myself 25 points then
so
15 from leveling 10 from character creation
also if youre using rites youd want a higher will
will is gonna increase damage for the damaging rites
with 25 points
how many points do you think you should get for free via character creation and how many should you get via leveling
i dont want players to be able to get everything high up without major reprocusions
dark rain
25
regal mulch
that seems decently balanced
i think im gonna go with 15 via leveling and 9 at the start
then you have 25/75 points
so you can max out 1/3 of the skills
dark rain
15+9 is 24
dark rain
o
regal mulch
yeah exactly 1/3 seems like the sweet spot to me
dark rain
you could give 10 at character creation as a treat owo
regal mulch
8 now just because you owo'd
dark rain
uwu
regal mulch
ok its 9 again
hushed bane
okay so maybe that was more than an hour
regal mulch
its fine
dark rain
regal mulch
right fizzy
me and emerald think you should get +3 at each stat improvement and 9 to spend at character creation
dark rain
i dont think you should get 9 i think you should get 10
regal mulch
and youll end up with exactly 1/3 of the points you would need to max everything out
9
you have a +1 gain from species already
regal mulch
no i just like exactly 1/3 more
regal mulch
rather than 26/75
hushed bane
you have a +1 gain from species already
im tempted to say 9 because of this but my brain says 10 is round and cozy
regal mulch
leftist infighting is going too far
dark rain
a little guy
hushed bane
i do like snacks
dark rain
YAAAy
regal mulch
emerald youre getting credited on the doc now if you dont mind
dark rain
woohoo
hushed bane
it's way overdue already
hushed bane
also i need to polish the plot for the campaignnnnnnnnnn
hushed bane
also i need to polish the plot for the campaignnnnnnnnnn
im not gonna give much away except for the fact that there may be an antagonist that's a scav who's just a huge asshole or something
idk writing characters is hard
scav that steals your lunch money is funny
ANYWAY GOURMAND TIME I NEED TO WORK ON GOURMAND
hushed bane
?
regal mulch
emerald explain why
dark rain
change them from what to what
regal mulch
didnt you want to change the way permanent injuries work
dark rain
regarding them being gm fiat yes
use a table
if you can use a table for something use it
itll make things easier for the GM
and also gm fiat in the consequence/reward structure is really fucky and not a good idea
hushed bane
yeah that is true
plus a table of injuries can just act as a way for DMs to pick and choose an injury anyway
regal mulch
how about just a table the dm can pick from depending on the death
dark rain
i prefer to roll randomly for them but a list also works
dark rain
you could have a random table and allow either
regal mulch
if you head gets bit off it dosent make sense for your leg to be broken
dark rain
thats why i roll first and then describe the attack that kills them
since i know it hit and i know theyre going down already because theyre screaming
or whimpering if theyre a bottom
hushed bane
you could have a random table and allow either
that's what i meant
dark rain
and/or i look at their character sheets to see if theyre gonna go down
ye
this is AMG's
you can base it off this if you want
regal mulch
2d10 roll table sounds better than a d20
as it means the best and worst results are rarer
dark rain
yea
regal mulch
so should we have the closer to the middle it is the less severe
and then the further out it gets the worse
hushed bane
hmmm
dark rain
and some non-permanent effects are close to the middle as well
dark rain
ya
hushed bane
ruptured bladder
your slugcat now has a UTI
dark rain
yaaaaaaay
hushed bane
W H A T
hOW AM I GONNA FILL ALL MY PISS PIPS BEFORE THE RAIN COMES AUTUMN
YOU THINK I CAN JUST DRINK THE RAIN OR SOMETHING
regal mulch
there is a non zero chance bathwater exists in rain world and is sold
hushed bane
that was the triple affirmative
sliver of straw simply sold all of her bathwater to her horde of slugcat viewers
hushed bane
we need scars
regal mulch
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11 - minor scars
12 - no injury
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
hushed bane
no 1
2d10 remember
or keep 1 and make the description "Your slugcat experiences a miracle and recieves no injuries, only 10 blessings"
hushed bane
thing is how would that affect things
hushed bane
yeahh since
dark rain
11 is the 2d10 average btw
hushed bane
nicer injuries are in the middle and worse ones are at the end
mhm
have minor scars be the average
no injury should be slightly rarer
regal mulch
maybe have like
both 3 and 19 be no injury
lets just go with 12
what should the chance be to not get an injury be
10%? 20%?
hushed bane
3 and 19 should be good
regal mulch
too low
then its only a 4% chance
i think 5 and 17 works better
10% chance for no injury
hushed bane
gotcha
hushed bane
mhm
okay i like temporary blindness, severed tendons, crippling pain
OH AND DAMAGED EYE
emerald really had to make this roll table so damn good huh
trying not to snag everything
regal mulch
damaged eye should be a perception decrease
regal mulch
on the character sheet should we include a like
hushed bane
mhm
dark rain
i stole a few of these from the Alien rpg
which has a really good injury table
and is really good in general
regal mulch
do you have any ideas for injuries besides ones from there
any rain world related ones in particular
hushed bane
yknow i always tell people body horror and gore is my favourite thing
but now i have to apply this knowledge my brain is drawing blanks
hushed bane
OH MY GOD THAT'S GENIUS
dark rain
yaaaaaay
regal mulch
and should we include something saying that like
hushed bane
get killed so hard you become an atheist
regal mulch
how the injury is healed is up to the player to figure out
dark rain
now u need therapy
hushed bane
you lose your faith in humanity
regal mulch
like maybe finding a karma flower for that
dark rain
i think the GM should have something in mind for all of these
dark rain
but allow creative solutions
regal mulch
slugciety
hushed bane
the joker slugcat
hushed bane
i think the GM should have something in mind for all of these
yeahh
like having iterators repair broken arms n stuff
regal mulch
you eat a thousand batflies, nobody bats an eye
but all of a sudden you eat one scavenger
and society
SOCIETY
goes wild
hushed bane
i read batflies as "batteries" and nodded solemnly in agreement after i remembered that one time i was really drunk and had to be restrained from eating batteries for 20 minutes
regal mulch
maybe you should eat the batteries
hushed bane
THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING
regal mulch
should we include an example healing method for each permanent injury
or a rite through an adaptation that allows healing them
hushed bane
should we include an example healing method for each permanent injury
possibly? in fact yeah
thatd encourage people to get creative
hushed bane
or a rite through an adaptation that allows healing them
possibly for the saint only maybe??
regal mulch
im thinking for any slugcat but make it expensives
6 blessings?
so half your total for 1 injury
but monk gets it for 4
actually maybe even more
7
you need to factor in the monk -2 reduction
i think 7 for any slugcat via an adaptation is a good idea
then monk can use it for 5 when picking the healer subclass
hushed bane
yeah that works
althoughhhhhh
idk it makes permanent injuries seem
trivial?
like if i'm running a campaign i want permanent injuries to last
i want them to be things you have to go on quests to heal
regal mulch
we do need rites that cost more than 6 blessings though
otherwise monks second adaptation is gonna just be get a healing spell
hushed bane
we do need rites that cost more than 6 blessings though
big attacks or stuff like karma forcefields
regal mulch
karma nuke for 20 blessings
regal mulch
let me hear it
hushed bane
karma spells that can induce small bits of weather??
dark rain
now you are the rain world
hushed bane
every rain has it's world
hushed bane
i do like a good bit of child abuse
regal mulch
a little bit as a treat
dark rain
💀
hushed bane
should gourmand have the wario shoulder bash as an adaptation
hushed bane
the Stomp
regal mulch
should we give this negative effects besides that
like say -5 perception -5 throwing
i feel like complete blindness isnt a great idea
@hushed bane
regal mulch
go with partial blindness in one eye
hushed bane
thing is though i feel like it should only be -2 or something
slugcats can smell and hear
hushed bane
go with partial blindness in one eye
i like the idea of being blind for one cycle though
regal mulch
idk i feel like that could end up being annoying
i think go with blindness in one eye, but have blindness in another eye somewhere else in the table
so you can get permanently blinded until healing until you heal both eyes
hushed bane
i feel like that should be separate
like you have full but temporary blindness and then permanent blindness in one eye
regal mulch
wait will injuries stack if you get that one again
maybe permanent injuries should get their own section
is that fine with you
hushed bane
wait will injuries stack if you get that one again
depends
if they do that'd be kinda unfair so maybe for losing an eye permanently you just reroll
hushed bane
maybe permanent injuries should get their own section
feels like too much tables
regal mulch
i think you cant get the same injury twice
and if you roll that one again you just dont get an injury
but if you remvoe it you can get it again
hushed bane
hmm
regal mulch
i do think we need to better explain permanent injuries
hushed bane
yeah maybe
regal mulch
should we give them their own section or move the table down and explain more there
hushed bane
idk what we need to explain
regal mulch
that you can heal them and how they work
hushed bane
that's already been explained?
maybe add a bit about healing but
oh and the bit about not rolling the same one again
although this doesn't really warrant its own section imo
regal mulch
im gonna move it down to the bottom of cycles then
so i can give it a paragraph and not interfere with the deaths part
done
regal mulch
@hushed bane are we still working on gourd rn
molten birch
how are things going yall? i read back a bit you upped the stats from +3 to +5?
molten birch
cool! anything else happen? thats as far back as i read lol
regal mulch
not much
@hushed bane ok im thikning for gourds adaptation you gain the ability to drop on a creature to deal damage to them
even though its a base ability in game i think its better to be seperated
Also remember the negative of gourm, increased fall damage.
is that in game?
hushed bane
even though its a base ability in game i think its better to be seperated
agreed
hushed bane
Also remember the negative of gourm, increased fall damage.
increased fall damage..?
regal mulch
Yup
hushed bane
i mean it works but it might be a little situational for a TTRPG
regal mulch
In game they take increased fall damage.
i dont think we should do that
maybe they drop items in their mouth upon falling
hushed bane
also i know im thinking way ahead but (shush i have many ideas for this campaign)
should i write out completely new pearl lore for when people find pearls in a campaign or just use old ones
regal mulch
i mean it works but it might be a little situational for a TTRPG
Compared to the other slugs in game it's actually quite a downside. A fall fron the top of the screen to the bottom knocks you out for a solid second.
hushed bane
yeah but in a TTRPG, that becomes very situational because then it's dependent on the DM describing the map and such
regal mulch
maybe they drop items in their mouth upon falling
That works since they get knocked out. Drop all items when you land from a fall.
regal mulch
also i know im thinking way ahead but (shush i have many ideas for this campaign...
up to DM and depending on the pearl type
hushed bane
i know it's up to me that's why im asking
hushed bane
i already have some pearls written down in secret but im unsure of whether i should make EVERYTHING new
but yeah it's a new setting
i'll get to that later then
OH ALSO PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO FIGURE THIS OUT BUT
when running a game do we use like
battlemaps or whatever?? because if so those are gonna be a bitch to make
or do i just describe the room
regal mulch
describe the room generally
battlemaps can be used if the dm wants but i dont think we need them
That was what I understood from how we planned it.
i think a better "map" the dm should use is something like
hushed bane
yeahh
regal mulch
yknow hollow knights map
hushed bane
i was thinking about learning the whole rain world map editor thing JUST to make custom rooms for this setting
but pretty early on i realised how painful that would be
so what i MIGHT do
regal mulch
but pretty early on i realised how painful that would be
It'd be fun tho.
fuck i cant find the like
alpha hollow knight map
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
then i describe funny plants and garbage and gorbo along the way
hushed bane
still the inner perfectionist goblin in me is like
regal mulch
encourage the players to make a map
regal mulch
like let me draw a 6 room region as an example
hushed bane
since the campaign's gonna have a 3 act structure
sorta
me watch movie screenwriting tips me make D&D with good writing
regal mulch
ok right i cant draw
basicallly just
use a loose map and have players draw their own map
also i mean
in game a slugcat could probably make a map somewhat
you could roleplay it as updating a pearl
fuck thats exactly what i should play
catrographer survivor with counterfeit archivist
anyways
gourmand adaptations and negative trait
what should they be
hushed bane
catrographer survivor with counterfeit archivist
that sounds rad and please do play that so i can have my scav antagonist steal the shit out of your pearls
regal mulch
unfortuantly for you i store all my pearls in a low light shelter
so not i even i know which is which
send help one time i had a normal pearl in a shelter with 10 colored pearls at LTTM
i had to sort through all of them it was painful
hushed bane
anyway cooler example of a room "skeleton"
has all the geometry of a room
but none of the actual details
pipes are red, water is blue, i think you can tell what the pipe gaps and poles are
;-; maybe i should just learn how to make rooms actually
gonna do that actually
i live for the immersion
even if it costs my sanity
hushed bane
gourmand adaptations and negative trait
stomp and more food pips from eating are adaptations?
regal mulch
i think stomp and something crafting instead
butl ike
what would the crafting related thing be
hushed bane
i mean gourmand already has advantage when crafting?
regal mulch
there could be something else
2d6 damage when falling on a creature?
or should it be higher since it needs more setup
hushed bane
maybe a lil higher
regal mulch
2d8 work?
hushed bane
that works!
also screw it im learning the rain world mod tool thingy
im gonna make actual rooms for the campaign
regal mulch
go for it
hushed bane
no idea what im doing but im gonna try my best
hushed bane
maybe gourmand's other adaptation is like
storage-based?
since it can keep stuff in its cheeks
hushed bane
also screw it im learning the rain world mod tool thingy
Okay this is way harder than i thought
regal mulch
hows it going fizzy
It is.
I learned how to make a single room, but I have no idea how to do stuff like connect rooms.
hushed bane
hows it going fizzy
t e r r i b l e
i dont know WHY or WHAT i did wrong because im following the tutorial but its so damn laggy
and some stuff just glitches out and doesn't look the same as the tutorial
regal mulch
hushed bane
making the poorly drawn bones idea from before seems more tempting but MAN i live for the aesthetic
regal mulch
idk the poorly drawn bones idea does have a more rain world vibe to it
a hand drawn map would work great
hushed bane
hand drawn would be cool yeah but id probably go even more insane trying to draw loads of environments and rooms
unless you mean just no detail
regal mulch
dont detail it too much
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
yknow what YEAH
regal mulch
and some important details
hushed bane
way easier
hushed bane
and some important details
ye ofc
hushed bane
oh god you're right
regal mulch
hushed bane
look look
maybe the rooms are just structured like the rooms ingame
and we just sort of
beat around the metaphorical third dimensional bush
regal mulch
actually do want further input on this
hushed bane
that question just caught me off guard & terrified me
i've planned out 2 regions already and i didn't realise ONCE that there's a 3rd dimension
hushed bane
look autumn
nobody has to know
we can sweep this extra dimension business under the rug
regal mulch
yeah exactly everyone knows the world is just 1d
anyways i think im gonna grind out some adaptations and slugcats rn
anyways gourmand
how should their crafting adaptation work
or should it be something else
hushed bane
back
me: ew this rain world level editor sucks
also me: now this looks like a job for Obscure Pixel Art Tileset Editor
regal mulch
me: ew this rain world level editor sucks
also me: now this looks like a job for...
send the link to it
hushed bane
hushed bane
Don't forget dens when they're appropriate
i plan to ye
this is just a test room after all
also rivulet may be useful in this campaign since 2/3 of the regions have water (i like water)
hushed bane
how should their crafting adaptation work
i think more storage?
like better cheek storage
regal mulch
Riv adapt to gib oxygen for pips.
nah i think that should be a default thing
they have better underwater breathing and are stupid fast
regal mulch
i think more storage?
i feel like it should also give an exclusive crafting recipe
hushed bane
OH YEAH
like maybe uhhh
best analogy for this is the cake from minecraft funnily enough
requires a bunch of different ingredients
creates a big meal that the party can share
regal mulch
they have better underwater breathing and are stupid fast
I mean to other slugs.
Be able to give others oxygen.
For pips
give gouramnd the ability to set themselves on fire and be a living campfire
oh maybe
hushed bane
we still need a weakness
regal mulch
i have no idea
also foxyperson do you want to be credited on the doc
If you want, sure.
cool as what
Hmmm
I haven't done much outside of giving ideas and opinions, so idk.
no i mean like
namewise
Ah,
youve still helped a lot
Just use my username.
balancing is the easy part compared to ideas
I thought you meant like as a title. Example: illustrator.
Which I would have no idea. Lol
anyways between the 3 of us we can come up with some negative trait for gourmand i bet
so in game
regal mulch
theyre slow and they take increased fall damage
hushed bane
hushed bane
theyre slow and they take increased fall damage
fall damage is kinda situational?
regal mulch
no i mean like
thats their weaknesses in game
what can we do with that
We briefly discussed dropping items on falling.
that would be more annoying than a downside tbh
A nuisance is a downside. Lol
i mean it is
But yeah, understandable.
but its not a great one if all it does is just
make you take longer
all the other ones affect your playstyle somewhat
except survivor but theyre the basic one so thats allowed
@hushed bane also just wondering we are allowing rites to be casted along with another action right
hushed bane
mhm
regal mulch
or are we gonna have them take a full action
regal mulch
oh shit that could work
I feel like you'd have to buff Gourm a lot somewhere else if you're going to completely take rites from them.
"gourmand is too fat to use karma magic while doing other stuff "looks like garfield lmao" -FP"
they dont lose rites
they just cant do them while doing another action
Ah, both, understandable.
Yeah, that's fair.
That works.
gourmands clumsiness makes it so they need to focus harder on using karmic abilities and they take a full action to do them
then again they arent really clumsy are they
so gourmands other adaptation
crafting based or more storage
maybe
more storage and a new recipe
or maybe they gain the ability to say combine a dead lizard with another thing and then eat it
nah
hushed bane
new recipe
regal mulch
new recipe
hushed bane
big feast meal for the whole family
hushed bane
maybe switch around the order of that
so, you can store food in your cheeks, which means you can store 2 extra items in them
also once we've done these rules
regal mulch
then gourds adaptation is a new recipe and my mouth storage
hushed bane
i think the best way to test them is do a one shot thing that combines everything we need to test
hushed bane
Arena mode
hushed bane
we can make a few lizard stat blocks
i plan to just power through every creature
i've done it before
hushed bane
when i attempted to make a rain world D&D
regal mulch
wait uh
should we do this with the beastiary and stuff and have a thing you can jump to for every single creature
or no
hushed bane
yeah
regal mulch
should we do this with the beastiary and stuff and have a thing you can jump to ...
I did not know this existed, that's awesome. Lol
hushed bane
when i attempted to make a rain world D&D
2017 me was on the weirdest shit imaginable
hushed bane
idk it's very unfinished and is just some shitty art and statblocks
regal mulch
ah ok
hushed bane
None of this is salvageable
regal mulch
It's something tho.
Lol
cant wait for downpour to have to do a shit ton of stuff and rebalance characters
spears and slugcats expanision when
hushed bane
i did make a ton of batflies though for no reason
regal mulch
cant wait for downpour to have to do a shit ton of stuff and rebalance character...
probably saint in particular
hushed bane
ayo WHAT is going on in this document
regal mulch
beacuse we have so little info about saint
hushed bane
rED FRUIT
regal mulch
they have a tounge
hushed bane
so reading it
regal mulch
I mean, they have tongue, vegan only, complete pacifist, and become god at max karma.
hushed bane
red fruit just gives you 2 food pips
and green gives you 3
what is this balancing
WAIT NO
BLUE GIVES 2
RED GIVES 3
GREEN GIVES 4
nostalgia for when i was awful at art and nabbed a bunch of plants from an old minecraft mod
regal mulch
I mean, they have tongue, vegan only, complete pacifist, and become god at max k...
It's about as much lore as we have for any other MSC slug.
we are gonna put homebrew plants in the homebrew section right
hushed bane
mhm
regal mulch
we are only gonna add custom recipes in the non homebrew section
hushed bane
mhm
hushed bane
gonna add the green fruit
hushed bane
anyways gourmands special crafting recipe
maybee
blue fruit, bubble fruit, batfly, popcorn plant kernel
regal mulch
i would go 8 pieces that give 1 each
and anyone can eat it?
as they could just eat the batfly section
hushed bane
OH MY GOD I FOUND THE MAP FOR THE OLD D&D
hushed bane
i would go 8 pieces that give 1 each
oh that makes sense
hushed bane
OH MY GOD I FOUND THE MAP FOR THE OLD D&D
everything looks normal so far
what the fuck
regal mulch
can i see the whole map
i am curious now
maybe you need to kill something larger and harvest a piece as well. So you have fruit, batfly, and large meat in the recipe.
1 plant, 1 small creature, 1 part of a large creature
8 food pips
Ye
and you can store it in your mouth
regal mulch
Maybe raise to 2 plants and 2 batflies. If those only give 1 pip normally, it's kind of op to raise the pips so much.
hushed bane
idk what the fuck the primal wilds is but it sounds dope
idk if swamplands is lifted from the actual mod or if it's something i just came up with by sheer coincidence because swamps are my favourite biome
hushed bane
The primal wilds dude
regal mulch
i wouldnt disconnect existing regions
hushed bane
where else do they go
regal mulch
ok bet
regal mulch
because hunter spawns there
hushed bane
hunter starts in farm arrays right??
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
GIGABRAIN
regal mulch
but NSH is far away
hushed bane
slightly less gigabrain
regal mulch
we know that as FP and moon being that close apart dosent normally happen
just take a train there
holy shit holy shit
working train regiob
please
hushed bane
working train regiob
i may have something planned
also oh boy a crafting recipe doc!!
we could actually use some of these
regal mulch
noted
hushed bane
there's one last doc which the thumbnail is really zoomed in and the name is just Untitled
investigation mode
holy fucking shit
WHY IS THIS IN RAIN WORLD THOUGH
regal mulch
Yeah, definitely your art.
rain world fans when they see the city of tear
I haven't seen that in HK's concept art.
i meant to say tears but singular tear is way funnier
hushed bane
it's like one building
there's a tiny rain cloud
ok this is more recent
silksong
regal mulch
i meant to say tears but singular tear is way funnier
I mean tear is a homonym, the City of Tear(tearing something) might be pretty cool. Lol
hushed bane
wow 2019 me didn't come up with crafting for rain world but did for hollow knight huh
hushed bane
OH MY GOD
regal mulch
That sounds good
hushed bane
can't overdo it though since we have recovery dice
regal mulch
Stick with what we had. 8 pieces, 1 each.
make delicious delicacies (batfly + blue fruit) grant +2 hp in addition to the 3 food pips
hushed bane
yee
regal mulch
That sounds good.
regal mulch
hmm
Is this his base ability, or adaption?
adaptation
Kk.
maybe 2 foods with this
+2 health food
hushed bane
i say one adaptation that just adds like
hushed bane
3 recipes
regal mulch
a food that gives a blessing back
regal mulch
how many blessings back
eah
that also brings in a lot of like
party synergy
holy shit hollow knight crafting recipes have solved this problem
ok im thinking food wise
Lol
+2 hp food
+2 blessings food
what else
one more
and ill add more slots to mouth to the fall damage adaptation so it dosent let you store 5 buff foods at once
I liked our original idea. A party meal.
maybe that can be the 3rd one
what should the recipes use
something general or specific?
regal mulch
+2 hp food
+2 blessings food
Instead of a set, 2 blue 1 batfly type thing for those, it depends on who is eating them. So for the +2 health it's like 2-3 fruit/batfly/meat.
make the hp food be meat based
the blessing fruit be plant based
and the other one used by both
actually nah i dont like that
Well I'm saying because lore wise Saint can't eat meat period. So he changed the recipe for it.
that could work
for 2-3 food items you can craft either of those
And for the blessings one, maybe something like a karma flower?
nah
then its too rare
Fair enough
hushed bane
hp one could use 'hardier' foods to convey strength and vitality
like unpopped bubble fruit
regal mulch
what would that be
besides that
what other foods are hardier
Maybe stronger lizard/vulture meat instead of any larger creature.
And we only really have batflies when it comes to small meat.
centipedes
small ones
Oh yeah
lantern mice squidcada
could also fit that
hushed bane
noodlefly egg?
regal mulch
Can you eat a squidcada?
hushed bane
hunter can
regal mulch
eggs could also work
Which is why I didn't include it. I figure small meat is something you don't have to stab first.
batflies and centipedes both work for that.
should we also say that uh
they cant be eaten by herbivores/carnivores unless theyre all meat/plant based
hushed bane
possibly
regal mulch
nah too complex
hushed bane
im gonna head to bed tho
regal mulch
then you need to keep track of what theyre made of
ah ok
ill finish up gourd
Alright, sleep well fizzy.
night
hushed bane
tomorrow morning i might work on host actually
regal mulch
I'll still be here for you to bounce ideas off of Autumn.
hushed bane
since thats my lil oc creature i can do whatever
regal mulch
yep
ill give some input on it still but go wild
as long as it isnt too strong or weak
and yknow
logical
hushed bane
OKAY
regal mulch
they cant be eaten by herbivores/carnivores unless theyre all meat/plant based
Just state that the recipe has to account the diet of the slugcat.
OH
Food to heal tames
hushed bane
JUST HOPPING BWCK ON BECAUSE I HAD AN AMAZING IDEA
regal mulch
Or food can heal tames
regal mulch
Recipe?
holy shit that works
some sort of water
and what else
Batfly grass.
Leafy
oh a leafy plant
so batfly grass or karma flowers work
and then something to hold it
a rock
Debris, ye.
yeah
It's called batnip. Had to check because I knew it wasn't batfly grass, but couldn't remember what exactly.
what should we call the adaptation
ancient recipes?
That sounds good
Gourmet Chef
Ancient Chef
what do we clal the uh
hp food
Hmm
Keep the requirement of water and debris and we could call it hearty stew.
gravel
let gourmand make gravel
Is gravel to be used as debris?
no im joking but ancinets ate gravel with their tea
Ah
Oh btw, for the hearty meat. Green lizards, large adult centipedes, and vultures.
Hearty Steak.
Since a fruit can technically be steak shaped, and you could definitely make a steak out of a centipede or large creature.
2 pieces of meat from two different large creatures and a uh
what else
For the other two? Uh
no i meant for the recipe here
1 more item
1 small piece of meat?
We're still talking about the hp food, correct?
yes
If you want 3, yeah, that works.
Then we need plant version for Monk and Saint at the very least.
Bubble fruit and popcorn.
i dont think it needs a plant version
its fine imo
Lore-wise it wouldn't make sense for saint to eat it, even if they're not the ones to kill it.
just say they cant eat it then
Mkay.
or just have gourmand gaslight them into thinking its made of plants
Lmao
Saint dies instantaneously upon eating it. XD
anyways how about the 3rd one
verbal grove
Gourmand does not cater to the weak vegans
regal mulch
We did talk about it using all 3 food types. So fruit, batfly, and meat.
regal mulch
ok actually yeah
the 3rd food should give more food pips
@regal mulch do you want to be able to edit the document
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
Idk
I probably won't touch it
Most I would probably do is fix any spelling/grammar mistakes.
thats still really helpful
or you can just like
use suggestions mode to check the grammer mistake
incase we get something confused via like
whats capitalized orn ot
if you want to give me access, sure.
Do you need the name of my email to give me access?
yes
also who are all the people looking at the doc rn
Atm it says 3 people including myself. Idk who tho.
well atleast we got a good amount of people interested
should we ask if we can get the ttrpg announced somehow somewhere
since we cant use #mod-releases because its not a mod
but im not sure it fits #rainworld-news or #server-announcements either
dark rain
@ everyone
regal mulch
@ everyone, rain world mandatory TTRPG session begins in 10 minutes
if you do not join you are banned
all 11k members have to play at once
a single dm
I think once we're close to finishing it we should see if we can get it announced. Until then I'm unsure if it's as pressing of a mater.
dark rain
i wouldnt join because im in 3 campaigns atm
regal mulch
permaban
vernal moat
can't ping everyone lol..
vernal moat
(scammers usually try to ping everyone so it is filtered)
and then they get DESTROYED
dark rain
@here
vernal moat
I forgot that's a thing
dark rain
whuh oh
regal mulch
hi tutel
regal mulch
should we ask if we can get the ttrpg announced somehow somewhere
would this be possible btw
since youre here might as well ask
verbal grove
any barbarian class cats rn?
verbal grove
I mean, I have an OC that is a barbarian tbh
regal mulch
you can homebrew them
pretty easy to homebrew species here
just need their stats (following the same formula), features, and 2 adaptations
And of course approval by dm.
heres how everything is sorted btw in the bestiary fauna items what not
for those 3 its alphabetical
but for homebrew stuff its by order of being added
and for species its order in game
Sounds good.
makes it easy to find.
Should lizards be in like a subcategory called lizards so you can find them quickly, then alphabetized there as well to help you find them inside the subcategory?
verbal grove
this is a joke, what if red lizards just have the stats of a Tarrasque
regal mulch
I mean, basically.
regal mulch
Should lizards be in like a subcategory called lizards so you can find them quic...
nah
molten birch
I think once we're close to finishing it we should see if we can get it announce...
i think we should do a short trial run after polishing things up to see how a regular game session would play out
regal mulch
just use crtl + f
regal mulch
i think we should do a short trial run after polishing things up to see how a re...
we are gonna
the plan is a lot of trial runs
and i want 10 people to make a character sheet for each slugcat and rank them and their adaptations
molten birch
good to hear 
im definitely down for one when the time actually comes lol
regal mulch
I can run as many trial runs as we need with fam. They love ttrpgs, so it'd be easy.
i really do appreciate everyones help here
molten birch
happy to help! even if i dont actually contribute anything more than like a second opinion lol
regal mulch
thats still a lot
Hey, I just want to see it completed so I can play it. Being able to help create it just makes it so much better. 
balancing stuff isnt very hard compared to coming up with ideas
imo
Yeah, that makes it perfect, cause I have no idea how to balance, but I'm creative, so ideas are easy.
yeah this group of 4-6 people is the perfect size to get ideas and opinions out there without too much noise
i do want to know
how would we do character sheets
ideally we would have a site that lets you update it but idk if we can do that with some of the stuff that needs to be displayed
like karma
Create a doc with places to insert information. People can download the doc, then there they go.
molten birch
yeah yeah
a doc would work, make a copy of the basic character sheet and you can edit it with your own character info
course we would need to make the basic character sheet first but! it would work!
regal mulch
that does work actually
the only thing we would need is a way to say
draw a karma symbol
and character picture
anyone have a site in particular we should use
can gourmand make a nuke
alpine kelp
gourmand could probably make an atom bomb
a nuke im less sure about, he'd need to find radioactive material
regal mulch
how
alpine kelp
idk
maybe the iterators have some
dark rain
gourmand creates the demon core
regal mulch
"five pebbles its fine i got this spear right here keeping it in place"
"gourmand there isnt a spear"
"oh"
dark rain
gourmand does hot girl shit
alpine kelp
gourmand demon core was found by NSH, which is why hunter has cancer
regal mulch
gourmand can use a bonus action to make a demon core
alpine kelp
gourmand definitely crafts the chaos emeralds
alpine kelp
gourmand definitely crafts the chaos emeralds
they are sent to the 1.01 MSC timeline where they are ground up and fed to saint
anything you want suggestions on
regal mulch
site for character sheets
molten birch
roll20 would work probably
alpine kelp
if you're talking about a physical character sheet template then i'd say just take notes from D&D/Fate/the jojo one you mentioned for ideas
regal mulch
ill try roll 20
also i would like your opinions on the slugcats
can you rank each we have so far on a scale of 1-10 strength wise
alpine kelp
ill try, although it'll be hard to REALLY get a good estimate regarding stats and stuff, and thus im not sure whether i can really scale-rank them
obviously riv, saint, and host will not be included in the ranking
my ranking will basically be feature- and adaptation-based
(will split into multiple posts, will cover the first three slugcats to begin with)
survivor:
- survival instincts: depends on how easily one can obtain food. if food is easy to come by then this ability actually becomes quite strong
- inhibited senses: again depends on food availability. if food is scarce then the absence of Survival Instincts is a big detriment - not sure exactly what number dice is being rolled so the 1 or 2 could be REALLY bad odds (for a d4 or d6) or near-negligible (for a d20)
- counterfeit archivist: not sure how important or commonly used pearls will be. without this info it is very difficult to tell whether this ability is a gimmick or if it provides good benefit
- pack bonding: very good ability - provides only benefits AND lets you boost your teammates
monk:
- karmic gift: on paper this is very good. the only thing is that we haven't really fleshed out rites yet and so depending on what is possible this could range from slightly underpowered to significantly powerful
- herbivorous lifestyle: negative impact depends on both food availability and how many rites can be used before running out in a cycle. idk what dice we use for attacking but if the dice is a low-sided one then the reduced damage could pose significant risks if rites run out quickly
- pilgrimage progression: VERY strong upgrade that essentially increases monk's utility by 20-42% and gives them an ability for free
- mender: imo underpowered compared to PP. the cost decrease and spell are good but they don't provide the same utility as PP does
alpine kelp
ill try, although it'll be hard to REALLY get a good estimate regarding stats an...
hunter:
- aggressive nature: pretty good ability (not 100% sure about the damage bc i don't know the damage dice) - the ability to consume large creatures is something i'm not sure about the utility of, as i don't know how common these "large creatures" might be
- karmic imbalance: depends on food availability and the power of rites. food might become an issue if multiple carnivorous slugcats are in the same party - not sure about having 0 blessings at level 1, seems a bit harsh
- adrenaline surge: not sure how much the damage increase for unarmed strikes helps because i don't know how much damage they deal in comparison to spears - the "last stand" thing seems pretty fair imo
- critical weaknesses: guessing this is a d20 so a 30% chance seems fair. again not sure what the range of possible attack damage is: if it's low, then a +2 to +5 is really good - if it's high, then that extra damage is still nice but not game-changing
will continue tomorrow (i mean when i wake up in the mid-morning today)
regal mulch
sorry didnt see ot
spear damage dice is 2d6
base unarmed is 1d4
and large creatures means stuff like lizards
alpine kelp
will update those three entries tomorrow morning
regal mulch
and the roll die is 2d8
also remember the max modifier is a +5
but yeah thank you for the feedback so far
luckily we dont need to publish a new book for every single minor balance change
alpine kelp
well what d&d does is they basically make revisions and consider anything that they changed to be "errata"
personally i think that has its ups and downs
a lot of players don't know the errata exist so they may be unaware of changes to books
which is especially important as errata have sometimes made SIGNIFICANT removals of information
anyway gn
also one last question: does the "rolling" in the Inhibited Senses description mean the "roll to succeed" (the 2d8) or the roll for damage output
or does starvation have its own separate dice you need to roll to see whether you receive negative effects
dark rain
btw
we should make character creation the first thing after the overview
since it gives you the best idea of how the game functions
as well as picking species first in char creation, then assigning points, then adaptations, rites, and lastly character progression
that narrows in weight and then introduces progression after the character is done
hushed bane
@ everyone, rain world mandatory TTRPG session begins in 10 minutes
OH GOD IM SO LATE
